Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Archive 45

→ Programming must be the process of putting [bugs] in.
Edsger Dijkstra (1930-2002). benzband ( talk ) 14:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 *  Support  –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - It's not bad, but it would be better if we included the first part of the quote. It doesn't necessarily even need a link...  Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:33, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ If debugging is the process of removing bugs, then programming must be the process of putting [bugs] in.
Edit 1, per Nutiketaiel. benzband ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (it is not necessary to link the first part, but just in case we need one, then WP:BUGS, WP:TECHPUMP, or enter_bug.cgi should be good links.) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * thanks! i've updated it directly with WP:BUGS. benzband  ( talk ) 09:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:13, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong support edit 1 - It makes more sense with the first part, and it's a witty motto :) Smaug123 (talk) 09:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ Edit 1 for Motto of the day/November 3, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.
Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790). benzband ( talk ) 09:51, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   17:41, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:20, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/January 17, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 11:00, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Marconi is a good fellow. Let him continue. He is using seventeen of my patents.
Nikola Tesla (1856-1943). benzband ( talk ) 09:58, 12 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong support - Hey, someone read my link :) go Tesla! Smaug123 (talk) 13:15, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * ;-) benzband  ( talk ) 14:24, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:34, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/January 7, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:53, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Boys throw stones at frogs for fun, but the the frogs don't die for 'fun', but in sober earnest.
Bion (c.325 — c.255 BC). benzband ( talk ) 15:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   17:43, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:43, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 2, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:49, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ In the twinkling of an eye, we shall be changed.
Bible: I Corinthians, Ch. 15, V. 51. benzband ( talk ) 15:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   17:42, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 1, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:47, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ To jaw-jaw is always better than to war-war.
Winston Churchill at the White House (1954). benzband ( talk ) 15:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - Great quote :) Smaug123 (talk) 19:29, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:43, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 30, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:46, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ The more, the merrier!
As the saying goes. benzband ( talk ) 20:40, 8 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support I'm actually surprised this one has not been used before. --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   03:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:45, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 29, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:42, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ In America, you can always find Wikipedia. In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia always find you!=== Brain[storm]ing here… pick tha best?? benzband ( talk ) 15:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

====→ In America, you own Wikipedia. In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia own you!==== Edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 15:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

→ In Soviet Russia, Wikipedia edit you!
Edit 2. (mainspace link) benzband  ( talk ) 15:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

→ In Soviet Wikipedia, regulars template you!
Edit 3. (WP:TEMPLAR) benzband  ( talk ) 15:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

→ In Soviet Wikipedia, vandals revert you!
Edit 4A. (WP:ROWN) benzband  ( talk ) 15:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

→ In Soviet Wikipedia, vandals revert you!
Edit 4B. (WP:EDITWAR) benzband  ( talk ) 15:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

(all; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support for edit 1. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - The "Soviet Russia" thing was done on the 7th of August Smaug123 (talk) 10:03, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

(all versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:38, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ LI transmitters to fall, all receivers to thirst!
Joe Strummer and the Mescaleros : Streetcore : "Midnight Jam". benzband ( talk ) 17:13, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:48, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:37, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ You're either with us, or against us.
Which are YOU? benzband ( talk ) 14:53, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:51, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:03, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:35, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ You stand there beating on your little war drum.
UK Subs : "Warhead". benzband ( talk ) 14:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:52, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:03, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   19:22, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 19, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:29, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ Inner city life is getting me down, Police and gang wars all over town.=== UK Subs : "Riot". benzband ( talk ) 14:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:53, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:26, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Everybody has a story to tell.
Moved from specials page and modified, per p joe f. benzband ( talk ) 12:20, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support then ... but I don't fully get the link to WP:PH. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:14, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oops! i meant Help:PH ;) changed to WP:PAGE which redirects to Help:PH.  benzband  ( talk ) 10:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   19:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Everybody has a story to tell.
Edit 1: how to read an article history, per p joe f. benzband ( talk ) 10:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

(both; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ (original version) for Motto of the day/December 22, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ A specter is haunting Europe — the specter of communism.
Submitted this after coming across someone who was comparing Wikipedia with Stalinism. benzband ( talk ) 13:41, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (for the one and the only party, of course ~ hahaha ~ I'm kidding, of course) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:23, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:20, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   19:23, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/February 21, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:12, 28 August 2012 (UTC) ✅ Errr.. what are doing Pjoef? This is a normal motto. Difficultly north (talk) 10:19, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Is there no treacle in Gilead?
One of the more amusing mistakes… maybe the translator was hungry at the time? benzband ( talk ) 09:13, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:30, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:16, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:55, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong support - Hehe, this one made me smile - I was reading about bible mistakes just the other day, too, so it must be fate :P Smaug123 (talk) 17:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 26, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:03, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ China is overstocked with deranged alchemists.
Barry Hughart - Bridge of Birds. benzband ( talk ) 21:56, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:55, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:02, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Whatever you do, don't click here.
Did you? benzband ( talk ) 21:24, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
 * NO i didnt lol –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:48, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support Almost. Nice try. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 15:07, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support I checked what the link was; and thus, did not click it. --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   19:25, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 25, 2012 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:01, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Whatever you do, don't click here.
I bet you did this instead, huh Benzband? Tooty fruity 1 Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 21:12, 30 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak support. I had first thought of linking to "uh-uh" but then logout is something that actually affects the user, so (if they click without checking) they feel really stupid afterwards. Happened to me once :D benzband  ( talk ) 15:34, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:01, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Whatever you do, don't click here.
click #3 of "to click or not to click..." –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:48, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * At the risk of sounding selfish, i still prefer the original… benzband  ( talk ) 13:05, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:01, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

(all three of them; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:12, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance for all versions [or clicks]) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong support for 1) - As said before, it's a non-permanent action, but it actually does something. Nice idea! Smaug123 (talk) 16:45, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ We Threw Gasoline on the Fire And Now We Have Stumps For Arms And No Eyebrows.
How about having "Don't Throw Gasoline on the Fire" the day before? Only kidding (^__________^) benzband  ( talk ) 21:24, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:51, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:11, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ floccinaucinihilipilification
Apparently first used by William Shenstone. benzband ( talk ) 21:24, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:51, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

→ floccinaucinihilipilification
Edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 21:26, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:57, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ floccinaucinihilipilification
Edit 2. benzband ( talk ) 21:26, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:57, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

(all three of them) (not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:10, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance for all versions) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support original - just seems to be a slightly more appropriate link. Smaug123 (talk) 16:47, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ (original version) for Motto of the day/October 24, 2012 (per consensus; X in support and X opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:57, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ The length of this document defends it well against the risk of its being read.
Okay, so i've gone through a few 'Winston' quotes. Pick the ones that seem best but (my 2 cents) don't put them all one day after the other. benzband ( talk ) 17:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:09, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - This is a great one, I'd never seen WP:TL;DR before so it did its job there! Smaug123 (talk) 16:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 23, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:54, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
See above. benzband ( talk ) 17:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

→ A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
Edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 08:35, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

(all two or three of them) (not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:03, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(all; last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (for the original version) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.
See above. benzband ( talk ) 17:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion or "zero discussion") –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:44, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   21:32, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/November 30, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:50, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference.
See above. benzband ( talk ) 17:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:48, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ I got this powdered water - now I don't know what to add.
benzband ( talk ) 17:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:07, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:46, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ I don't have a drinking problem 'Cept when I can't get a drink.
Tom Waits (1949—). benzband ( talk ) 17:00, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:08, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   21:33, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/December 7, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:46, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ A man's true character comes out when he's drunk.
Charlie Chaplin (1889-1977). benzband ( talk ) 17:00, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 *  Support  –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:08, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Update: The page has been deleted. benzband  ( talk ) 20:13, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I can't remember what WP:PFD (the deleted page) was about. Here are a couple of links, but (probably) with the opposite meaning: WP:DRUNK and WP:DRUNKEDIT. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:39, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It was a redirect to Page for Drunks. benzband  ( talk ) 09:58, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion plus it NEEDS a new link) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 *  Support  –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:31, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ A man's true character comes out when he's drunk.
Edit 1, per p joe f and per WP:PFD being deleted. benzband ( talk ) 09:58, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Q: If this is Edit 1, where is the original? Found! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:35, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:44, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Ah, beer. The cause of and the solution to all of life’s problems.
A definite authority on the matter. benzband ( talk ) 17:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support But it should probably have significant spacing from the other drinking quote by Tom Waits. --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   21:33, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 22, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:43, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Cheeesboigah!
Rock on in "The Magnificent Seven". benzband ( talk ) 12:15, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:10, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:41, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Why then, can one desire too much of a good thing?
Rosalind in Shakespeare's As You Like It (Act 4, scene 1, 115–124). Of all the supposed bawdy puns in Shakespeare's work, this one's authentic. benzband  ( talk ) 14:11, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:40, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Ignore Alien Orders
Joe again, per p joe f. benzband ( talk ) 12:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:15, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:50, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:40, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Come, Watson, come! The game is afoot!
Sherlock Holmes in The Adventure of the Abbey Grange. benzband ( talk ) 10:39, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:16, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:50, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:39, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ This diary is my kief, hashish and opium pipe. This is my drug and my vice.
Think you might be addicted too? Take the test. benzband  ( talk ) 10:39, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:16, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   16:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 21, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:38, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ I been too long on the dole.
'The Only Band That Matters' in "1977". benzband ( talk ) 10:39, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:17, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:25, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:36, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit this motto │
Edit 0A. Go on. benzband ( talk ) 12:46, 15 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment: I'm not sure the DIV thing is okay on all of MOTD's templates. Probably it is better to use the SPAN element. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:48, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit this proposal │
Edit 0B. benzband ( talk ) 10:02, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Your motto here │
Edit 1A. benzband ( talk ) 12:46, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

2. Isn't better to link edit 1 to WP:MOTD/N? –p joe f (talk • contribs)
 * 1. See the comment above about the DIV element;

Your motto here │
Edit 1B, per p joe f. benzband ( talk ) 10:02, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(all versions; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:22, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(all versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:35, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ All I want to do is sit on my arse and fart.
(and think of Dante). benzband ( talk ) 12:46, 15 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:51, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:21, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:34, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ Now the war machines are mapping our destructions With poisons over flowing in the chemical seductions.=== Choking Victim: No Gods, No Managers: "500 Channels". benzband ( talk ) 08:26, 14 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:33, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ So you wanna be a cop?
"So you wanna be a mop?" Leftöver Crack. benzband ( talk ) 08:18, 14 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:54, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:33, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ They were so fast that they were going into something weird.
Joe Strummer (1952-2002) in a 2002 interview. benzband ( talk ) 08:15, 14 July 2012 (UTC) "I saw Sick Of It All play last week and it was faster than we played. We played at HALF the speed. You talk about some aspects of punk rock and it was speed and aggression. They were so fast that they were going into something weird. The velocity is so fast that they were going into 12/8 or 16/5. They're pushing through boundries. They broke through to another time barrier like a waggon wheel going 'round that it looks like it's going backwards but it's really going fast. This is the audio version of that effect. I was going 'This is...!' Back in the day, I was thinking it was good but we doing (imitating guitar) 'neaaar-neh-neh' but now they're going 'BAP-BAP-BAP, BAP-BAP-BAP!' Let it rock. —J. S."


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:55, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:19, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:32, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===This is a chord. This is another. This is a third. NOW FORM A BAND!=== Based on WP:TRIFECTA. See also: Now form a band. benzband ( talk ) 20:03, 13 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (edit 1 is also good) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:58, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

====This is a chord. This is another. This is a third. NOW FORM A BAND!==== Edit 1, with WP:CREATE. benzband ( talk ) 20:03, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

====This is a chord. This is another. This is a third. NOW FORM A BAND!==== Edit 2, with WP:SIGNUP. benzband ( talk ) 20:03, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

(all versions; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:18, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong support original - I think the idea is more about the overall "contributing" idea than merely "creating articles", especially with the link to DICK. Smaug123 (talk) 09:26, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ (original version) for Motto of the day/January 6, 2013 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:30, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ My God, it's full of stars.
Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 17:08, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 18:07, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I think that we would be better served by linking to the Barnstar page itself, rather than an article about their overuse. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:29, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:03, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

→ My God, it's full of stars.
Edit 1 - See above. Also, odd coincidence, I just got finished re-reading this entire series (2001, 2010, 2061 and 3001) in the last week. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:29, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak support - i prefer the original. benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - in favor of original. benzband  ( talk ) 14:28, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:03, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:28, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

(both; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:17, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support original - The original links to a lesser-known page, and seems to me to match the text a little more closely. Smaug123 (talk) 09:27, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ (original version) for Motto of the day/November 16, 2012 (per consensus; 4 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:28, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ A million monkeys on a million typewriters…
Monkey doodle… benzband  ( talk ) 14:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:04, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Welcome to Wikipedia! Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 17:08, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment ~ "Welcome to Tracebook or to the Text of What I'm Thinking To Everyone Reading!" –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:48, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Doesn't seem like an appropriate link. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:30, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Check out the infinite monkey theorem: it's about randomness. Incidentally, so is Special:Random. benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Support If you were to take away the link it would not make any sense. --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   19:27, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:25, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down.
"Behold, the Lord maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof." benzband ( talk ) 10:09, 23 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:15, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - The linking seems counter-intuitive, since the quote is talking about the end of the world. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * That was rather the point :( benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:11, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:23, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ We knew the war could not be won.
The Clash in "Rebel Waltz". benzband ( talk ) 10:09, 23 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:15, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - An uphill battle is not the same as a war that cannot be won. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

→ We knew the war could not be won.
Edit 1, with WP:LAME. benzband ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(both; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:22, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ If they can make a law then I can break a law If i can break the law will the law break me?=== Another one, for the heck of it :D "THe oUtCAsT" benzband  ( talk ) 20:07, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (second preference) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:17, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - It's not bad, but the WP:GAME link was maybe not the best choice. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:01, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

====→ If they can make a law then I can break a law If I can break the law will the law break me?==== Edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (first preference) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:19, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(both; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:08, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (Edit 1) Like Pjoef said, this is the better alternative. --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   19:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ Edit 1 for Motto of the day/October 17, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:21, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ The worker is working when the fat cat's about.
Dropkick Murphys in "The Worker's Song". benzband ( talk ) 13:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I don't really get this one. Unless the context of the song makes Fat Cat mean something other than the usual meaning?  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:02, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Here's the lyrics. Decide for yourself :) Also, check out fat cat in the urban dictionary. benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:18, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ God: The most popular scapegoat for our sins.
Mark Twain (1835-1910). benzband ( talk ) 13:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:13, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - Given the context of the quote, I don't think that that is the best choice of link for "god." Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:08, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:GOD makes mention of disruptive editors using the names of divinities for their accounts (and we all know that disruptive editing is a "sin" ;) benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:05, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ I started being really proud of the fact that I was gay even though I wasn't.
Kurt Cobain (1967-1994). See Friends of gays should not be allowed to edit articles: the last type. benzband  ( talk ) 13:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:10, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose – Too likely to start a controversy, IMO. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:48, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. The essay is humorously taking a potshot at vandalism and hasn't generated controversy as far as i can tell. The quote itself is relevant, too (search for "gay" in the Kurt Cobain article then read the relevant paragraphs). So this is in fact standing up for gay rights. What's wrong with that? benzband  ( talk ) 15:34, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. I believe you are right about the controversy part, but I am opposed to gay rights and therefore can't support this one in good conscience. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:07, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, right. I first thought you were worrying it might cause an uproar from WP:LGBT… ^^ but i don't think this would offend anybody. The real people being aimed here are those silly vandals that go round SHOUTING IN CAPS that all the BLPs are gay. benzband  ( talk ) 20:31, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You're opposing the motto because you oppose gay rights? I really don't think that your political views should be playing a role in this kind of thing.  If you don't think you can be impartial about it, maybe abstaining would be best.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - It's OK, though to be honest, I'm not that keen on the article it links to. It's... not that funny.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It's satirical. benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 3 (2.5) in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ God: The most popular scapegoat for our sins.
Mark Twain (1835-1910). benzband ( talk ) 13:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:13, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - Given the context of the quote, I don't think that that is the best choice of link for "god." Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:08, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:GOD makes mention of disruptive editors using the names of divinities for their accounts (and we all know that disruptive editing is a "sin" ;) benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:05, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ A man should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be.
Albert Einstein (1879-1955). benzband ( talk ) 13:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:53, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - Verifiability, not truth, is the accepted standard. The essay linked to makes an interesting point, but I think we should stick to the de jure policies.  Especially when it is something as central as verifiability.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:11, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The motto revolves around the How many legs does a horse have? essay. That ought to explain. (i hope). benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ What I did had no significance at all.
NOFX in "The Man I Killed". benzband ( talk ) 17:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 *  Support  (moving to Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:11, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong Oppose - This motto sends the wrong message. What our editors do does have significance- that's why they're here.  The article is saying that the Wiki will not fall apart if a single editor leaves.  That is not the same as an editor's actions not having significance.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:17, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Context here. On the other hand, that essay is intended to be humorous (c.f. tinc and humour tags). benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Move for Change I think Nut has a point on this one. If you want to use that link then maybe "A bump in the road will not end the journey" or "You cannot hurt the man of steel" and have "man of steel" linked as WP:Wikipedia and "cannot hurt" linked as WP:5THWHEEL. If you want to use that motto, then link it to vandalism or something that does not contribute to Wikipedia. --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   21:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:03, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ What I did had no significance at all.
Edit 1, with WP:Vandalism is pointless. benzband ( talk ) 15:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   17:45, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 16, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Words, words, words.
Hamlet in Shakespeare's Hamlet (c. 1603-23). benzband ( talk ) 14:39, 10 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:08, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Not a very good motto, and a weak link choice for it anyway. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:20, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Original text here. Wikipedia is, after all, words. (and rather a lot of them, at that :-) benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:01, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:10, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ Like as the armèd knight Appointed to the field, With this world will i fight, And faith shall be my shield…=== "The Ballad which Anne Askew made and sang when she was in Newgate" (1546) by Anne Askew. benzband ( talk ) 13:59, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * How about: How to be civil, WP:OTHERUSERS, WP:THANKYOU, WP:FORGIVE, or WP:QUIET for "my shield"? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:24, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

====→ Like as the armèd knight Appointed to the field, With this world will i fight, And faith shall be my shield…==== Edit 1, per p joe f. benzband ( talk ) 15:30, 12 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:09, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ We are just statistics, born to consume resources.
Gerard Manley Hopkins' (1844-1889) Epistles. benzband ( talk ) 13:59, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:24, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:55, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:08, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
Horace McCoy's They Shoot Horses, Don't They? (1935). benzband ( talk ) 13:59, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:07, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ The party of the first part shall be known in this contract as the party of the first part.
The Marx Brothers in A Night at the Opera (the contract scene). benzband ( talk ) 15:38, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:25, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Action, Time, Vision.
Alternative TV in Action Time Vision. That second link isn't great tho ~ benzband  ( talk ) 11:23, 28 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Here are some alternatives to WP:HWPP: WP:DEADLINE, WP:CHILL, WP:TEMPORARY, and WP:NOTDONE. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:57, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Changed to WP:DEADLINE (thanks, really didn't think of that :') but can't be bothered making an edit benzband  ( talk ) 15:26, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support then. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:27, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:06, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Said the joker to the thief.
"All Along the Watchtower". benzband ( talk ) 09:04, 28 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support. "I'm a road runner honey. Beep! Beep!" by Bo Diddley or "Roadrunner, roadrunner, going faster miles an hour" by Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers were also good :). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:20, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I heard an awful (but hilarious :-) early recording of the Pistols playing "Johnny B Goode" and "Roadrunner"… Rotten takes the piss and keeps forgetting the words :P I couldn't find it on youtube tho, just this benzband  ( talk ) 15:26, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's a demo taken from from the sessions for Never Mind the Bollocks in Wessex Studio, in October 1976. It is featured on The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle soundtrack released in 1979, and on Disc 2 of the Sex Pistols Boxed Set released in 2002. See thiZ :D! –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:46, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Zat wasn't posted at the time  benzband  ( talk ) 19:07, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:04, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ Police and thieves in the streets. Scaring the nation with their guns and ammunition.=== "Police and Thieves" (with reference to this ~ see the diff's bottom comment). benzband ( talk ) 09:04, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

"Can you pull the trigger like you can wiggle your finger? ... cold cold steel oh cold cold steel!" (The Only Band That Matters live at Barbarellas, Birmingham on 1 May 1978) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:54, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * One group got the guns and the other the ammunition, so they did not fight at all :D ... it's a great solution for ending all the beepin' wars in the world ;)! Category:Wikipedia counter-vandalism tools has some good alternative links.
 * The police walked in for Jimmy Jazz… i said "he ain't here" but he sure went past :O BTW I saw Rudie… IMHO it weren't fantastic but the muuusic was good ^^ benzband  ( talk ) 15:26, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

====→ Police and thieves in the streets. Scaring the nation with their guns and ammunition.==== Edit 1, with the ultra-classic(/cliché?) WP:WAR. :) benzband  ( talk ) 19:45, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:52, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

(both; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:03, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ You must show him, by leaving him severely alone.
Charles Stewart Parnell (1846-1981). See also: Boycott. benzband ( talk ) 08:32, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:10, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:02, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me.
Leo Tolstoy (1828-1910). Couldn't find fitting links for the entire quote, cited below ↓ benzband  ( talk ) 08:32, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:10, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:01, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing.
Elbert Hubbard (1856-1915). benzband ( talk ) 08:32, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:55, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:00, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ I like to do all the talking myself. It saves time, and prevents arguments.
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900). Maybe a more appropriate link can be found though. benzband ( talk ) 08:32, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * What about: WP:OTHERUSERS? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:24, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, i've changed it. benzband  ( talk ) 15:26, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support then. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:47, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:00, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Nothing happens, nobody comes, nobody goes, it's awful!
Samuel Beckett in Waiting for Godot. benzband ( talk ) 17:43, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:38, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:59, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ There are as many opinions as there are people: each has his own correct way.
"Quot homines tot sententiae: suus suique mos": Terence in Phormio. ~ benzband  ( talk ) 17:02, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:07, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ There is nothing better than that a man should rejoice in his own works, for that is his heritage.
The Bible. benzband ( talk ) 17:02, 13 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:09, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:39, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:57, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ I get up in the morning and I go to bed at night. In between, I occupy myself as best I can.
Cary Grant. benzband ( talk ) 17:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)


 * What about using: "SLEEP" for the second link? Support anyway. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:12, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

→ I get up in the morning and I go to bed at night. In between, I occupy myself as best I can.
Edit 1, per p joe f. benzband ( talk ) 16:16, 22 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:56, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ You, yourself, as much as anybody in the entire universe, deserve your love and affection.
Buddha. benzband ( talk ) 17:05, 11 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support ~ What about using WP:EDITORS for "anybody"? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅. benzband  ( talk ) 16:56, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:54, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ Gypsy Davey with a blowtorch he burns out their camps With his faithful slave Pedro behind him he tramps With a fantastic collection of stamps To win friends and influence his uncle=== Bob Dylan in Tombstone Blues. benzband ( talk ) 15:23, 10 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:31, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:53, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ Ceteris paribus ("All else being equal") === Latin motto. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:07, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 12:34, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

====→ Ceteris paribus ("All else being equal") ==== Edit 1. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:07, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - prefer original (also this has been linked a lot recently) benzband  ( talk ) 12:34, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(both versions; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:35, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:52, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ Thus aged men, full loth and slow, The vanities of life forego, And count their youthful follies o'er, Till Memory lends her light no more.=== Walter Scott (1771–1832), Rokeby, Canto V. My attempt... but it is not easy. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:56, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - that is [awe]some motto  benzband  ( talk ) 12:34, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:51, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Show me the money!
Jerry Maguire (1996) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:39, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - i believe you didn't get time to read my comment over the last "money" nom before it got archived  benzband  ( talk ) 12:34, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh no I didn't! Hahaha :D Probably, I was referring to the tracebook credits or Greek drachma (sigh). Zimbabwean dollars are okay, but this currency is out of circulation since 2009. Somali shilling is also good. Isn't "strange" that the richest continent (AfriKa) in terms of natural resources has the poorest people? A zero value currency should be the bestEST for me! (See: "Zero element" within Multiplication) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

'N I like to be in USSR, makin' sure these things will come An' I like to be in USA, pretending that the wars are done (see also: Category:Wars involving the United States) An' I like to be in Europa, saying goodbye to everyone…''
 * ''I like to be in Africa, a-beatin' on the final drum


 * I've already given you my maximum possible amount without frauding (about 0.000264 jimbos) of the local currency. If you find that's not enough, i suggest you invest in a spade and sail for DR Congo, where there is an estimated 24 trillion US$ of untapped raw mineral for 71 million congolese; which divided up should make a neat 340,000$ each (their current annual GDP per capita is 216$). Of course, you may instead wish to go for the zero-value currency, in which case i suggest a symbol for it: ℤ  as currency "symbol" (as in ℤ ERO ; as in one note is worth ℤ notes; and as in ℤ (film)). Oh, and i'm reporting you to the CIA for an attempt at economic terrorism.   benzband  ( talk ) 19:17, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * P.S. For when are the United States of Africa? USA will have to be a disambiguation page… lol. benzband  ( talk ) 19:17, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

→ Show me the money!
Edit 1 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:39, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - probably less often linked to than WP:PEW. benzband  ( talk ) 12:34, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

→ Show me the money!
Edit 2 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:39, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak Support - the motto has a rather loose[r] connection to the link than the previous edits benzband  ( talk ) 12:34, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(all versions; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:33, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(all versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:49, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ A lot of music is crap and it's all commercial and the images are all trying to sell the record.
Neil Young. benzband ( talk ) 15:47, 20 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak Support Come on, cheer up! Bulldog73 talk da contribs  go rando 03:43, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Dunno (lol) ~ Saying that a lot of edits and editing policies are crap isn't so goodie. WP:EDIT → WP:CRAP barely works, And, fortunately, it is not all commercial but the contrary. Probably, we could refer to WP:STUB or Starting an article for "music" to have a smaller circle of articles, but I do not know the official statistics, at the moment. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:35, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

→ A lot of music is crap and it's all commercial and the images are all trying to sell the record.
Edit 1, per above concerns. benzband ( talk ) 16:40, 30 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:58, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(last chance for both versions) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:31, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:48, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ We now know a thousand ways not to build a lightbulb
Thomas Edison (1847-1931), inventor and businessman. benzband ( talk ) 10:26, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:29, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   16:47, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL! benzband  ( talk ) 09:58, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - Hehe - I shall quash my considerable dislike of Edison because the link matches so well :) Smaug123 (talk) 09:19, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 18, 2012 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:43, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Friendship, mysterious cement of the soul!
Robert Burns' (1759–1796) "Epistle to James Smith" (1786), opening line/verse. I must admit that I would liked to use another (and well known) part of the epigraph:O Life! how pleasant, in thy morning, Young Fancy's rays the hills adorning! Cold-pausing Caution's lesson scorning, We frisk away, Like school-boys, at th' expected warning, To joy an' play. ... But I have not yet found a full good version (set of links) for it (it's too complicated, but I have some ideas about... if you want to...). The opening line, never dull, conveys a very simple concept, but because of its "simplicity", it is suitable to many different interpretations (sets of links). (Additional [and very boring] note: if you would like to read the full text of this epigraph then the "Epistle to James Smith" is here at WikiSource). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:20, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

O Life! how pleasant, in thy morning, Young Fancy's rays the hills adorning! Cold-pausing Caution's lesson scorning, We frisk away, Like school-boys, at th' expected warning, To joy an' play.
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 09:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Brain[storm]ing:
 * They create a stub, which gets CSDed but after receiving the warning they improve it and save the article. benzband  ( talk ) 09:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:41, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ That is one nutty hospital.
Tootsie (1982). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:15, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 09:15, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:27, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:39, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ Broad paths are open to every endeavor, and a sympathetic recognition is assured to every one who consecrates his art to the divine services of a conviction of a consciousness.=== Franz Liszt (1811-1886), Hungarian composer, pianist, conductor and teacher. benzband ( talk ) 20:52, 16 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:49, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:38, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ He was an artist and a writer and a poet and a friend.
Rancid in Daly City Train. benzband ( talk ) 15:39, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

→ He was an artist and a writer and a poet and a friend.
Edit 1. benzband ( talk ) 15:39, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:44, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(last chance for both versions) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:23, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both versions; no consensus; 2 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:37, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ I'm a little intellectual, someone who knows it all.
The Undertones in I'm smarter than U. benzband ( talk ) 15:39, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:05, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:22, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:37, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Everything was his idea... except my leaving him.
Citizen Kane (1941) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:22, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 09:46, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:19, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak support - I'm having a little trouble understanding how the two clauses' links are... well, linked. I think the nature of the quote requires that the links be relevant to each other, and in my befuddled state I can't quite see that they are. Smaug123 (talk) 09:15, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 15, 2012 (per bland consensus; 3 [2.5] in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:35, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ I pray thee cease thy counsel. Which falls into mine ears as profitless As water in a sieve.=== William Shakespeare (1564–1616), Much Ado About Nothing, Act V, Scene I (1600) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:17, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - This is awesome :-) benzband  ( talk ) 09:46, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:18, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong support - Nice traditional-sounding one Smaug123 (talk) 09:04, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 14, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:33, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ There are only two families in the world… the the haves and the have-nots.
Miguel de Cervantes (1547-1616) in Don Quixote (1605), pt2 ch20. benzband ( talk ) 10:31, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

→ There are only two families in the world… the the haves and the have-nots.
Edit 1 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:40, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 08:10, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - I think the links kind of repeat themselves. Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 17:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

→ There are only two families in the world… the haves and the have-nots.
Edit 2. Simply south...... always punctual, no matter how late for just 6 years 17:46, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

→ There are only two families in the world… the haves and the have-nots.
Edit 3, with pillars. benzband ( talk ) 08:40, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

→ There are only two families in the world… the haves and the have-nots.
Edit 4, with anti/wikipedic. benzband ( talk ) 09:44, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

(all versions; last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose all - I think either the links are going to be not particularly relevant, or they will be a bit exclusionist themselves... Smaug123 (talk) 09:06, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

(all versions; no consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:31, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us.
See Pale Blue Dot. benzband ( talk ) 19:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:50, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong support - Brilliant quote from a brilliant guy, nice links Smaug123 (talk) 09:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 13, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:28, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ All religion, my friend, is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination, and poetry.=== Edgar Allan Poe (1809-1849). benzband ( talk ) 19:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:25, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:03, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Weak Oppose To suggest that all religion is derived from fraud, fear, greed, imagination, and poetry could be offensive to some of the more devout users. --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   02:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:24, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ A whiff of grapeshot.
Thomas Carlyle: The French Revolution: A History (1837): Vol 1, Bk 5, Ch 3. benzband ( talk ) 13:12, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   16:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 12, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:16, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ I'll be good.
Alexandrina Victoria (1819-1901). benzband ( talk ) 13:12, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - Love it! Smaug123 (talk) 09:10, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 11, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:15, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Don't believe everything on the internet.
he he… benzband  ( talk ) 09:53, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:52, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   16:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong support - To echo Benzband, "he he" Smaug123 (talk) 09:03, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 10, 2012 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:12, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Be not the slave of Words.
Thomas Carlyle: Sartor Resartus (1836): Bk 1 Ch 8. benzband ( talk ) 09:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:53, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   16:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 9, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:10, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Yeah, it's your principles at stake.
From The Meanest of Times (2007): "Tomorrow's Industry". benzband ( talk ) 09:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   16:39, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 8, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:08, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ If a man neglects education, he walks lame to the end of his life.
Plato (424/3-348/7 BC). benzband ( talk ) 19:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:28, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:32, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   16:40, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 7, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:01, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ To believe in the indestructible element.
Franz Kafka (1883-1924). benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:17, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - Great one, nicely under-used WP link with a reassuring message :) Smaug123 (talk) 17:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/October 6, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:57, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.
Dennis in Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975). benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:55, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Oh, but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.
Edit 1, with admins. benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support, but the original version is also good. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:23, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   16:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(both versions) (not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:19, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support edit 1 - I prefer mottos with clear individual links rather than the whole thing being one big link, and edit 1 does that perfectly :) Smaug123 (talk) 09:07, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ (Edit 1) for Motto of the day/October 4, 2012 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:55, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ Ce qu'il faut éviter, c'est moins l'erreur que la contradiction avec soi-même ; c'est surtout par cette seconde faute que l'autorité perd de sa force.===
 * "The thing to avoid is not so much error as self-contradiction. It is especially by the latter that authority loses its force." —NAPOLEON In His Own Words. FROM THE FRENCH OF JULES BERTAUT. Translated by Herbert Edward Law and Charles Lincoln Rhodes. CHICAGO: A. C. McCLURG & CO. (1916).

Der letzte Konsul (talk) 17:25, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - For once it's a french sentence that could be proposed as the motto of the day. It comes from someone whose authority has quite never been questioned. It's intended for already educated people. Knowledge of french is usually not a must in the WikiPedia contributors community. Dommage ! A translation could be proposed the next day. Make your propositions. British guys won't be amused.
 * Hi Konsul! i've changed the arrow link so it points to Napoleon (the arrow is there for attribution, and i get it he is the author of this sentence). But i don't understand why you linked to WP:NSOFT, or why you did so repeatedly. *puzzled* :) benzband  ( talk ) 17:37, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

(last chance) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose - i just don't get the use of WP:NSOFT. benzband  ( talk ) 10:00, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose - It's a brilliant quote, but I think benzband is right, and the links should be more relevant Smaug123 (talk) 09:17, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Per opposition.-- LAA Fan '' 22:56, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

→ What shall I call thee?
William Blake: Songs of Innocence (1789): "Infant Joy". benzband ( talk ) 09:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:53, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   16:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - I liked that poem when I did it at school :) the link attached is in a totally different sense to the context of the original (doting parent vs spade), but that adds character! Smaug123 (talk) 09:11, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ per consensus.-- LAA Fan '' 22:53, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

→ When I put my mind to it I can be a megalomaniac.
Bram Cohen (1975—). benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:16, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   16:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:22, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - I don't know how you keep coming up with these, Benzband! Smaug123 (talk) 09:09, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ Per consensus.-- LAA Fan '' 22:51, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

→ I'm not a witch! I'm not a witch!
The Witch in Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) ~ she wasn't one, but that didn't save her. benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support ~ "I'm not a witch!" lol –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:25, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - Another good one - Benzband, you're on fire at the moment! Smaug123 (talk) 16:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, there has been very little participation recently so i've had to go for it myself. ;-) benzband  ( talk ) 18:55, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   21:42, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ per consensus-- LAA Fan '' 22:47, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who.
King of Swamp Castle in Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975). benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:24, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   16:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - Relevant quote from a great film Smaug123 (talk) 16:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Original for October 1, 2012. No-one was against it - 4 in support including nominator Smaug123 (talk) 16:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers.
François Fénelon (1651-1715). --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   03:58, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


 * How about a different link for the last word (maybe WP:Friends? Support anyway. benzband  ( talk ) 21:01, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I was actually searching for something along those lines, but WP:LOVE was the best I could find. Edited last link. --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   23:53, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 30, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 10:05, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ All roads lead to Rome.
As the saying goes. benzband ( talk ) 21:35, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support as unusual essay. Simply south...... flapping wings into buildings for just 6 years 22:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   03:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 29, 2012 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:24, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

===→ What's this I find to my surprise Those fans that I idolized No longer seem to exist=== "Fan Mail". benzband ( talk ) 21:01, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support. Simply south...... flapping wings into buildings for just 6 years 22:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 28, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:23, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ If I have a thousand ideas and only one turns out to be good, I am satisfied.
Alfred Nobel. — Hue Sat  Lum  14:55, 6 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   17:32, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - benzband  ( talk ) 21:01, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support Simply south...... flapping wings into buildings for just 6 years 22:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 27, 2012 (per consensus) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:22, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ If I have a thousand ideas and only one turns out to be good, I am satisfied.
Edit 1, with a link to WP:VPI. — Hue Sat  Lum  14:55, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Oppose in favour of original. Things in there manly don't refer to articles. Simply south...... flapping wings into buildings for just 6 years 22:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:22, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Do the best you can, and don't take life too serious.
Will Rogers (1879-1935). benzband ( talk ) 19:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:23, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:04, 31 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   02:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 26, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Say, from whence you owe such strange intelligence.
William Shakespeare: Macbeth (1603/7). benzband ( talk ) 13:12, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:48, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   00:22, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 25, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:18, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Say, from whence you owe such strange intelligence.
Edit 1, with WP:NASACE. benzband ( talk ) 13:06, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:18, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Say, from whence you owe such strange intelligence.
Edit 2, with WP:OR. benzband ( talk ) 13:14, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of the original) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:18, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ My own fellow countrymen won't kill me.
They did. benzband ( talk ) 13:12, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –[śUser:Pjoef|p joe f]] (talk • contribs) 06:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   02:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 24, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:16, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ To every cow her half, to every book it's copy.
Colum Cille (521-597). benzband ( talk ) 13:12, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:50, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   02:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 23, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ The buck stops here!
Harry S Truman (1884-1972). benzband ( talk ) 19:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:28, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:32, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support though Arbitration Committee and Mediation Committee could be alternatives. --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   02:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 22, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:13, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all.
Oscar Wilde. benzband ( talk ) 10:26, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:31, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   02:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 21, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:12, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
Howard Zinn (1922-2010). benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:12, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   02:50, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 20, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ …and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped.
Sir Bedevere in Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975). benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:18, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:20, 24 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   02:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 19, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ A few words spoken quietly mean so much when said just right.
Conflict : "A message to who". benzband ( talk ) 14:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   02:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 18, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:01, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh brother, where art thou?
Not sure who to attribute this one to. Difficultly north (talk) 13:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - found a title match: O Brother, Where Art Thou? :) benzband  ( talk ) 14:00, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support ~ maybe Sullivan's Travels by Preston Sturges (1941)? –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:08, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 17, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:59, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Any fool can turn a blind eye but who knows what the ostrich sees in the sand.
Murphy by Samuel Beckett. benzband ( talk ) 21:56, 29 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:37, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   02:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 16, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ A joke is a very serious thing.
See above. benzband ( talk ) 17:57, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

(not discussed at all) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:08, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   08:29, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:47, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 15, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:47, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ My usual authoritarian and bossy manner.
Jimbo (1966—) up to his tricks again. benzband ( talk ) 14:56, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 13:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - Not much of an article it's linked to, but it's not terrible. Nutiketaiel (talk) 13:32, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Would GodKing suit better? ;-) benzband  ( talk ) 15:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 14, 2012 (per consensus; 3 (2.5) in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:14, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Executed by the state, all appeals would be in vain.
See above. benzband ( talk ) 17:20, 14 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:12, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Support - It's OK, I guess, though I'm not a fan of all the Jimbo references. Save it for a slow news day.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:19, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 13, 2012 (per consensus; 3 (2.5) in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:02, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ You want to step outside?
Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. benzband ( talk ) 14:09, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 *  Support  –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:10, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak Oppose - I'm not opposed to the motto or the linking, just attributing it to the Hitchhiker's Guide. This is an extremely common phrase.  Attributing it to Douglas Adams is just silly.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:22, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The context in this case is rather amusing… but sure, i guess you're right. Who to attribute it to though? benzband  ( talk ) 15:24, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favour of Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:59, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

You want to step outside?
Edit 1, without attribution. benzband ( talk ) 15:24, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - For such a common phrase, probably better without attribution at all. Nutiketaiel (talk) 22:09, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:59, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ (Edit 1) for Motto of the day/September 12, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:59, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ The time for action has past, the time for reflection has come.
Le Petit Soldat (Jean Luc Godard, (1960).


 * Weak Support How is this supposed to reflect "Be bold"? Bulldog73 talk da contribs  go rando 20:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
 * BRD = "bold, revert, discuss" → the bold action and it's revert were the "action", then it is time for the discussion part ("reflection"). benzband  ( talk ) 16:04, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:02, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 11, 2012 (per consensus; 3 (2.5) in support and 0 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:45, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ "Did you hear what I said, Miss Kubelik? I absolutely adore you." – "Shut up and deal!"
The Apartment (1960). –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose Isn't its greatness the reason us Wikipedians are here? Bulldog73 talk da contribs  go rando 14:17, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Re: I do not know. Personally, I can say that I am here to try, with my modest contribution, to make human knowledge, which, in my humble opinion, is less than 5% of the "whole", available to everyone. Anyway, WP:WSG is in "I absolutely adore you", and they (C.C. "Buddy Boy" Baxter portrayed by Jack Lemmon, and Fran Kubelik portrayed by Shirley MacLaine) were playing cards so "deal" refers to the distribution of the cards to the players in a card game, and I read this line as: keep doing what you're doing→WP:CTW. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * How about WP:COOL? benzband  ( talk ) 16:44, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Support deal away… benzband  ( talk ) 17:24, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 19:19, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:47, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ T.V.O.D.
WikiProject publicity :D benzband  ( talk ) 12:50, 17 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose _ wrong link at the start, I assume you are meaning TV on-demand. I think this is rather dull. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 13:18, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Not quite (the link is correct) . This refers to TeleVisionOverDose benzband  ( talk ) 13:30, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 1 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Which side will you be on?
If.... (1968) by Lindsay Anderson (1923-1994). (The idea is to be neutral, i.e. on the NPOV side.) benzband  ( talk ) 09:46, 10 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:08, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

- no consensus. Simply south...... coming and going for just 6 years 00:11, 8 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Oppose - Asking what side a person is on seems counter-productive to the goal of achieving NPOV. Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:24, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It actually refers to Systemic bias. The NPOV bit is just some silly comment i made (^_____^) benzband  ( talk ) 15:27, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm aware, I checked the link. My point stands- I don't think we should be encouraging people to think in terms of "sides," even in jest.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 22:10, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * "Which side will you be on?" provokes the editor into realizing that yeah, they might be a bit biased too… And once one is conscious of one's mistake, chances are one is more careful next time. benzband  ( talk ) 08:51, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Hm. You actually make a very good point there.  However, I think the subtext will be lost when most Wikipedians view the motto.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 18:36, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

(no consensus; 2 in support and 1 opposed) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Failure is unimportant. It takes courage to make a fool of yourself.
Charlie Chaplin (1989-1977). benzband ( talk ) 19:50, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


 * I think that the second sentence needs a wlink. Here are some suggestions: WP:STICK, WP:DSYF, WP:SPIDER, WP:DUMB, WP:LEGS, Don't be inconsiderate, WP:OSTRICH, Pranking, WP:BIM. –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:22, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favor of Edit 1). benzband ( talk ) 21:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Failure is unimportant. It takes courage to make a fool of yourself.
Edit 1, per p joe f. benzband ( talk ) 10:10, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (Edit 1) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   03:58, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ - Edit 1 for Motto of the day/September 10, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 21:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Failure is unimportant. It takes courage to make a fool of yourself.
Edit 2, per p joe f. benzband ( talk ) 10:10, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

(all the three; not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favor of Edit 1). benzband ( talk ) 21:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

→ The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
"The Constitution is not a suicide pact". benzband ( talk ) 09:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 9, 2012.  Rcsprinter  (gas)  @ 12:19, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Drawing on my fine command of the English language, I said nothing.
Robert Benchley (1889-1945). benzband ( talk ) 09:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support - Brilliant quote, great idea behind it! Smaug123 (talk) 21:18, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ - for September 8, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 07:11, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Brevity is the soul of wit.
Polonius in Shakespeare's Hamlet (c. 1603-23), Act II, Scene II. benzband ( talk ) 13:59, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:25, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   08:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 7, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 10:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

→ Can anything be sadder than work left unfinished? Yes, work never begun.
Christina Georgina Rossetti (1830-1894). benzband ( talk ) 08:29, 14 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:52, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   08:31, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 6, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 10:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

→ The Future Is Unwritten
John Graham Mellor ~ Joe Strummer (1952-2002), per p joe f. benzband ( talk ) 12:05, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:51, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 10:14, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   08:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 5, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 10:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

→ DON'T PANIC!
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy front cover. benzband ( talk ) 21:56, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:14, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 09:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   07:48, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 4, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 10:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

→ The public will our guide, the public good our end.
Masthead of the Northern Star (1792-1797), paper of the United Irishmen (who launched the 1798 Rebellion)(typo fixed). benzband ( talk ) 12:20, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support (very good) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:15, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   08:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 2, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 10:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

→ It's never too late to do something.
Antoine de Saint-Exupéry (1900-1944). benzband ( talk ) 19:24, 20 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 06:47, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support It applies well to Wikipedia, but also to many other things. It's excellent. --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   08:41, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/September 1, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 10:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

→ He has a right to criticize, who has a heart to help.
Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865). benzband ( talk ) 12:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:16, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Support --  ~Scholarly  Breeze~   08:44, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

✅ for Motto of the day/August 31, 2012 (per consensus; 3 in support and 0 opposed). benzband ( talk ) 10:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

→ He has a right to criticize, who has a heart to help.
Edit 1 –p joe f (talk • contribs) 08:16, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Support - oops i missed this. benzband  ( talk ) 10:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

(not enough discussion) –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:22, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

(in favor of the original). benzband ( talk ) 10:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)