Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2017 July 19



Template:Taxonomy/"Palaeornis"

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 * Taxonomy/"Palaeornis"
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Template:Kosovo (UNMIK)

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 July 27. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  10:01, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Kosovo (UNMIK)
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Template:Audio-pipe

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  10:02, 27 July 2017 (UTC) Hardly used template for the purpose which other templates such as Audio, Audio-IPA and IPA-all fulfill. Nardog (talk) 15:50, 15 June 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Audio-pipe

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 * Keep It's not clear how the mentioned templates can replace this one, which takes a symbol, a link to a defining article, and a link to a sound file. &minus;Woodstone (talk) 13:34, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

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Template:Knight's Cross recipients of the 4th SS PD

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  10:12, 27 July 2017 (UTC) An excessive cross categorisation. The corresponding list articles have been deleted for failing WP:LISTN; pls see sample AfD:
 * Knight's Cross recipients of the 4th SS PD
 * AfD: List of Knight's Cross recipients of SS Polizei Division (multi-AfD).

Additionally, I'm nominating the following templates; the concerns listed above apply equally to them as well. Likewise, the corresponding lists have been deleted where they existed. Please see the AfD above on the lists for: 1st SS Division; 2nd SS Division; 3rd SS Division; 5th SS Division, etc:
 * Knight's Cross recipients of the 1st SS PD
 * Knight's Cross recipients of the 2nd SS PD
 * Knight's Cross recipients of the 3rd SS PD
 * Knight's Cross recipients of the 5th SS PD
 * Knight's Cross recipients of the 8th SS CD
 * Knight's Cross recipients of the 9th SS PD
 * Knight's Cross recipients of JG 1
 * Knight's Cross recipients of SxG 1

K.e.coffman (talk) 03:09, 1 July 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Since, it's a batch nomination.

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Template:WP Gambia

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The result of the discussion was keep. May need some editing to fix issues. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  10:03, 27 July 2017 (UTC) Unused and deprecated Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 05:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
 * WP Gambia
 * Why is it "deprecated" please explain? This is supposed to be a shortcut to the Africa/Gambia template. Every country should have a { WP CountryX } shortcut for Talk pages. If it's not reproducing the correct Africa/Gambia Talk page result then needs fixing, not deleting. WP Gambia is a reasonable shortcut for anyone to type on a Gambia article, like WP France shortcut. etc. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:17, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

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 * Keep and mark as subst-only. A bog-standard template that aids in the project tagging of articles. – Uanfala 12:24, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Tram in Algeria
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 * Tram in Algeria
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Template:Townsville Crocodiles roster
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC) Townsville Crocodiles is defunct Frietjes (talk) 17:34, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Townsville Crocodiles roster

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Template:Tourist attractions in Thrissur District
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC) unused, some of it could probably be merged with Template:Thrissur district Frietjes (talk) 17:33, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Tourist attractions in Thrissur District

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Template:Toronto hospitals
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC) unused Frietjes (talk) 17:31, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Toronto hospitals

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Template:Todd Field awards
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC) fork of awards already listed in Todd Field Frietjes (talk) 17:25, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Todd Field awards

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Template:PD-USGov-SSA
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC) Unused, replaceable by   F ASTILY   07:09, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * PD-USGov-SSA

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Template:PD-USGov-SEC
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:20, 23 July 2017 (UTC) Unused, replaceable by   F ASTILY   07:09, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * PD-USGov-SEC

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Template:PD-USGov-PHS
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:21, 23 July 2017 (UTC) Unused, replaceable by   F ASTILY   07:09, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * PD-USGov-PHS

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Template:PD-USGov-NEA
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:21, 23 July 2017 (UTC) Unused, replaceable by   F ASTILY   07:09, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * PD-USGov-NEA
 * Comment; there's a few dozen templates that seem all to be replaceable by . I see you've nominated four of them. Should we perhaps consider them as a group? (Unlike, many of them are in use; but that can be cleaned up by bot.) TJRC (talk) 23:55, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

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Template:USTop20s
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:28, 23 July 2017 (UTC) Following the deletion of the list articles in this template, it no longer serves any navigational or functional purpose. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 02:49, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * USTop20s

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Template:German World War II jet aces
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  10:04, 27 July 2017 (UTC) Template redundant to List of German World War II jet aces, which contains the same information. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:53, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * German World War II jet aces

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Template:List of Great powers by date
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 * List of Great powers by date
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Template:Letran Knights current roster
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:29, 23 July 2017 (UTC) out-of-date and almost all redlinks and generally duplicates the roster in the article. Frietjes (talk) 20:24, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Letran Knights current roster

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Template:BC Prienai
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:30, 23 July 2017 (UTC) unused, out-of-date, and duplicates BC Prienai Frietjes (talk) 20:26, 7 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * BC Prienai

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Template:Modern Rock Radio Stations in Wisconsin
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. , template was moved and expanded Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 19:05, 23 July 2017 (UTC) Only three links, fails WP:NENAN Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:44, 22 June 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Modern Rock Radio Stations in Wisconsin

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 * keep or rename as "Template:Rock Radio Stations in Wisconsin" if there are other Wisconsin rock stations which are not modern rock. Frietjes (talk) 13:36, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Modern Rock Radio Stations in Louisiana
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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:10, 25 July 2017 (UTC) Only three links, fails WP:NENAN Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:42, 22 June 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Modern Rock Radio Stations in Louisiana

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 * keep, I have added three more stations. Frietjes (talk) 13:14, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Gender-neutral
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Template:WikiProject Chad
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The result of the discussion was keep. Shall be marked as. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  10:06, 27 July 2017 (UTC) Unused, deprecated since 2008 Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:37, 8 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * WikiProject Chad
 * Keep as a standard subst-only wrapper template that aids in the project tagging of articles. – Uanfala 13:54, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * keep, but mark as substitute only. Frietjes (talk) 13:38, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
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Template:Daytime Emmy Award Outstanding Entertainment News Program
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Template:East German Republic Day Parades
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The result of the discussion was keep. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:25, 26 July 2017 (UTC) Unused, mostly redlinks Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 07:40, 8 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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 * keep, clearly being used. try using "what links here". Frietjes (talk) 14:31, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * Keep for now: If one follows Frietjes' snarky recommendation, one finds that, of the 10 links, most are there to discuss or maintain the template itself. There are only two actual uses. That said, its redlinks have some use as a reminder of related events, which has value both for the reader and for possible editors. Since the template was only created last May, there is a chance that the linked articles will be created sometime. &mdash; Sebastian 09:50, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 00:31, 23 July 2017 (UTC) connects two articles, the rest are redirects Frietjes (talk) 14:09, 9 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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 * Delete. Useless.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 12:24, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  10:08, 27 July 2017 (UTC) There are 73 official Agricultural Universities in India, (see List of agricultural universities in India) and this does not list them all, nor is it feasible to list them all. It does list many which are not official. In other words, it is pointless as a nav template. Muhandes (talk) 22:29, 10 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The result of the discussion was keep. Shall be marked as. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  10:07, 27 July 2017 (UTC) Unused, replaced by other templates Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 00:23, 11 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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 * Keep as a useful wrapper template (that appears to be meant to be substed). – Uanfala 10:12, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * keep, but mark as substitute only. Frietjes (talk) 13:38, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  10:07, 27 July 2017 (UTC) This template duplicates the content of the 'American mathematics' template, which is more general and provides more information about mathematics organizations in the US. Blueclaw (talk) 15:10, 11 July 2017 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:40, 26 July 2017 (UTC) Subjective and selective navbox. Best left for category navigation. Rob Sinden (talk) 15:48, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
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 * Strong Keep important information about an important subject. Useful in research...Modernist (talk) 15:51, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * There are over 200 artists in Category:Surrealist artists. Unless this navbox includes all of these, then it is subjective and selective.  However, including all surrealist artists in a navbox like this is impractical.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 15:57, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Excuse me? By what logic would you have us remove blue linked surrealist artists? Your premise is essentially wrong...Modernist (talk) 15:59, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for removing the red links by the way...Modernist (talk) 16:01, 11 July 2017 (UTC)


 * delete, apparently inclusion is subjective. better to use Category:Surrealist artists which is less subjective. Frietjes (talk) 16:01, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Inclusion isn't subjective; most qualify in a very widely known and long lived artistic movement that encompasses visual art, cinema, literature, theater and other forms of communication...Modernist (talk) 16:16, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * so everyone in Category:Surrealist artists? Frietjes (talk) 16:59, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Frankly most inclusions in Template:Surrealists that I worked on about 6 years ago were indeed artists, be they poets, writers, painters, cinematographers, etc....Modernist (talk) 17:26, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * Strong Keep. All are well-known by art historians, and many to the general public. Definitely better now without the redlinks. However, I would tend to add sections to the template, much as Template:Cubism, e.g., Leaders of the movements (i.e., Dalí, de Chirico, Ernst, Magritte, Masson, Klee, Miró), important works, influences, major writings. Coldcreation (talk) 20:27, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep as long as something similar to 's proposal is implemented. This template should not be just an index of surrealist artists.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 01:19, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I added some sections per 's proposal...Modernist (talk) 01:40, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * These additions are subjective and WP:OR. Who defines who the "leaders" are?  Why only include two paintings?  --Rob Sinden (talk) 07:51, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Reasonable, thanks for removing those...Modernist (talk) 10:22, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * Strong Keep, per comments above, per important artistic movement, per "huh?", per 'Baby=Bathwater', and per expand it as much as needed to include all important or pertinent paintings. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:22, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
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