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Template:Lang-yi-dual

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The result of the discussion was move to userspace. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:31, 9 August 2018 (UTC) Unused; apparently unfinished; last edits 6 May 2015. Trappist the monk (talk) 14:36, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Lang-yi-dual
 * As its creator, I can tell you that I think the template is finished, as far as I was taking it.
 * The purpose of the template was to allow two different Yiddish spellings to be shown. Traditionally, Yiddish spells words borrowed from Hebrew and Aramaic in Hebrew and Aramaic, but at certain points in time (mostly notably during the period of the Soviet Union), there were certain moves to spell even those words using the normal phonetic transcription approach. Hence Shabbos (Sabbath), spelled in Hebrew (and traditionally in Yiddish) as שבת, would become שאבעס instead. See, as well as the documentation page of this template.
 * The template was created because at the time I put it on 2–3 pages that were including both such spellings. Over time, I guess those mostly got removed. Given WP:NOTPAPER, I'm not sure why it's a problem to keep the template around. At the same time, if people are mostly removing the variant spellings from pages where they appeared, then this template wouldn't have a purpose. So my recommendation is "why not keep it?", but I won't be heartbroken if it is deleted. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:54, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I suggested that the template is unfinished because:
 * this can never render the literal translation:


 * and this can never render the unlinked language name:


 * and this can never render the text in a different size:


 * None of the above will work because there is nothing to test between the, or the  , and the succeeding pipe
 * Also:
 * this doesn't allow for left-to-right text (though I suppose there would be little call for that with this template):


 * and this can be replaced with the word 'Yiddish':

{{#switch:yi |en|eng  = explicitly cited English |#default = {{#ifexist:Category:Articles containing {{ISO 639 name|yi}}-language text |{{ISO 639 name|yi}} |non-English }}
 * So, incomplete in my mind.
 * If the community elect to keep this template, it can (should) be re-written so that it makes two separate calls into Module:Lang which would greatly simplify it.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 15:44, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I see your point on the above. I fixed the following:
 * now works
 * now works
 * I took out font size
 * I hard-coded "rtl" (because the possiblity of ltr isn't necessary here)
 * I fixed the category handler as you suggested.
 * So, as far as it goes, I think it's now "complete". If the community elects to keep the template, someone else is welcome to convert it to module calls—I don't know enough about modules to do that—but I'm not really sure it's necessary. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:45, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
 * So, as far as it goes, I think it's now "complete". If the community elects to keep the template, someone else is welcome to convert it to module calls—I don't know enough about modules to do that—but I'm not really sure it's necessary. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:45, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

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 * delete, unused, so apparently not needed. if it is needed, it can be recoded as indicated above. Frietjes (talk) 14:30, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If community decides to delete, please userfy to my space. Then if I need it, I'll just subst: it in on a page. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Inactive userpage blanked

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. No valid reason for deletion given. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:51, 2 August 2018 (UTC) It's becoming clear to me that the community doesn't approve of blanking inactive users. Every time I've used it, I get complaints on my talk page, and they have made good points. Furthermore, I don't see a policy-based rationale to this template. &thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 20:27, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Inactive userpage blanked
 * All these editors directly or indirectly complained about my use of this template.&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 20:39, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't complain about the template. I questioned why you would go out of your way to find userpages to blank. Natureium (talk) 20:41, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I reverted your idiotic behaviour, I did not complain about the template. Please kindly rephrase your drivel above to be an accurate reflection and bloody well explain what the hell you're doing tonight. Nick (talk) 20:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * My complaint didn't have anything to do with the template. —DoRD (talk)​ 20:47, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * +1 My complaint had absolutely nothing to do with the template ? ...... Mine and everyones complaint above was inregards to you adding the template to a former admins userpage. – Davey 2010 Talk 20:49, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Coi-stern

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 August 9. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 23:30, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Preacher ratings
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:22, 9 August 2018 (UTC) Speedy delete under WP:CSD per discussion at Templates_for_discussion/Log/2018_June_22 -- wooden superman  15:47, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Preacher ratings
 * Keep per most recent TFD, where there was no consensus to delete. In addition, to this TFD last year, with the same conclusion. - Brojam (talk) 05:22, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The discussion you mention was two weeks after this, and was for the base template, not the individual templates. This specific template had already been deleted by consensus and should not have been recreated, unless it had been subject to a deletion review, which it was not.  G4 APPLIES  -- wooden  superman  08:53, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * If there was not problem keeping the base template, then why should the individuals be any different? They allow to reduce vandalism on ratings (which happens quite a lot in television articles) by making the ratings graph edits separate, rather than lost in the history of the series' article. - Brojam (talk) 12:52, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * The base template is available in case there is a need for it. This template was specifically deleted by consensus.  -- wooden  superman  13:01, 3 August 2018 (UTC)


 * speedy delete per prior consensus, recreated without DRV. Frietjes (talk) 12:24, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy delete per prior consensus. SportingFlyer  talk  10:16, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Ignacio Sada
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:21, 9 August 2018 (UTC) Not primary creator of the works in question per WP:FILMNAV -- wooden superman  15:28, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Ignacio Sada
 * delete per nom, and don't forget about the other ones like Template:Angelli Nesma Medina, Template:Nathalie Lartilleux, .... Frietjes (talk) 16:14, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Australia Squad 1998 ICC KnockOut Trophy
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The result of the discussion was delete per this discussion and prior consensus. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:31, 6 August 2018 (UTC) Didn't win the championship; squad membership can be found in 1998 ICC KnockOut Trophy squads, 2000 ICC KnockOut Trophy squads, ...; per 2018 July 24 discussion. See also 2018 March 1, 2018 February 16, 25 July 2017, 29 December 2016, 18 December 2014, 8 December 2014, ... ) Frietjes (talk) 13:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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 * notifying prior discussion participants. Frietjes (talk) 13:55, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as per the many discussions listed above. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> (talk) 14:53, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all per previous consensus.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 14:56, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ <b style="color: #660000;">Dissident93</b> (<b style="color: #D18719;">talk</b>) 15:45, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, same situation. Steven (Editor) (talk) 15:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all, per everyone and previous nominations. Ajf773 (talk) 20:23, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - make them go away so that pages are easier to actual navigate between. Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:46, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
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Template:People and slavery
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 August 9. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:30, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Major English-language current affairs magazines
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 August 9. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:29, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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Template:SockmasterProven
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. But, no objections either. So, I guess go ahead and merge them if you want and make sure there are no problems. Perhaps, continue the discussion on the respective talk page? Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:28, 9 August 2018 (UTC) Propose merging Template:SockmasterProven with Template:Uw-sockblock.
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Largely duplicate in terms of content and parameters. The peroid parameter can be replaced by time parameter in uw-sockblock template B dash (talk) 05:10, 27 June 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

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 * Ping--Comments, please:) &#x222F; <b style="color:#070">WBG</b> converse 09:56, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * Comment. I don't know what the effect of the merger would be on what I do. I post socking block notices in two ways: with Twinkle and with the SPI script (forget the name but wrote and maintains it) at SPI itself. All I do is fill in the duration, which is most often indefinite but occasionally a temporary period of time. As long as the merger has no effect on that, I am neutral.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:14, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * What Bbb23 said. As long as it doesn't break anything, I could care less. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 14:28, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think that I ever use that template, so ... what Bbb and Amanda said. —DoRD (talk)​ 23:15, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Radio and television stations in Massachusetts
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:17, 9 August 2018 (UTC) Simply too large to provide a useful navigational function. -- wooden superman  09:55, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Radio and television stations in Massachusetts
 * delete, too large to be useful and duplicates more targeted templates (e.g., Template:Boston Radio). Frietjes (talk) 12:26, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 * This kills me because I am an inclusionist, but delete as yeah, it's way too damn much for any useful navigation.Stereorock (talk) 23:56, 5 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete; this is too large to be a useful navbox. There's a reason why broadcast station navboxes have historically been by market and by affiliation/format in state… they're simply much more navigable. (And this is for the relatively small state of Massachusetts… an equivalent navbox for the likes of California or Texas would be simply enormous!) -- WC  Quidditch  ☎   ✎  00:19, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 August 9. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:21, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Carlos Castaneda
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:20, 9 August 2018 (UTC) Trivial template, not a significant topic, "related" links are to be merged and redirected, books can be linked from article. —DIYeditor (talk) 03:04, 22 July 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Carlos Castaneda
 * Keep--Even though two of the content pages were merged, there's still four novel pages there which renders the template useful from a navigational standpoint.-- Molandfreak  (talk,   contribs,  email) 04:44, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete As pointed out, the books are linked from the Castaneda article, and the individual book infoboxes have "followed by" links. --tronvillain (talk) 17:12, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

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 * Weak keep. Just about enough entries to warrant a navbox.  -- wooden  superman  08:12, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 23:20, 9 August 2018 (UTC) Template only links three articles, unlikely to be expanded as the convocations were effectively disbanded in 1996. -- Molandfreak  (talk,   contribs,  email) 04:34, 22 July 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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 * Delete not useful for navigation due to its small size - I suggest adding "see also" to the articles in question. SportingFlyer  talk  09:35, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
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