Wikipedia talk:WikiProject American football/Archive 2

Template for sports articles lacking sources containing significant coverage
The 2022 NSPORTS RfC added a requirement that all sports articles are required to have a source that contains significant coverage of the topic. To help identify sports articles that lack this I've created Template:No significant coverage (sports); please add it to any such articles that you encounter, and if you are looking for an article to improve the relevant categories may be useful. BilledMammal (talk) 13:00, 22 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Two points. First, the RfC was limited to sports biographies, not "all sports articles." Second, the template has been nominated for deletion. See TfD discussion here. It would be prudent to await the outcome of the TfD before rolling this template out. Cbl62 (talk) 16:55, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

TFD
You may be interested in this discussion on the deletion of XFL roster templates. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:33, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Orlando Guardians
You may be interested in this deletion discussion on an XFL team. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:15, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

"Super Bowl Champion" for reserves and practice squad
Hi all. Not sure if this has been asked before but just wanted to see what the general consensus is when it comes to adding "Super Bowl Champion" to the career highlights of players who were on the reserves or practice squad list. I know for baseball we only add the title if they were on the specific World Series roster, so I wanted to see if it was different here. Troutfarm27 (Talk) 03:38, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * As far as I know, we do add it to the reserves/practice squad players. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:41, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Got it. Thank you! Troutfarm27  (Talk) 03:47, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments are used by Wikipedia editors to rate the quality of articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project decides to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:50, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Reason for Seasons lists containing relocated teams
Hi there, this is just a curious question from someone trying to gain rationale over on ice hockey. Why do the season-by-season records, coaches, and players of NFL teams such as the Las Vegas Raiders, Los Angeles Rams, and Tennesee Titans include their relocated counterparts? Such as the Tennessee Titans including Houston Oilers players and coaches and their records. Why not split the articles? Conyo14 (talk) 07:07, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Content assessment
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Content assessment, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. &#x0020;This WikiProject received this message because it currently uses "Current" and/or "Future" class(es). There is a proposal to split these two article "classes" into a new parameter "time", in order to standardise article-rating across Wikipedia (per RfC), while also allowing simultaneous usage of quality criteria and time for interest projects. Thanks! &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 20:52, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

American football stubs
Wikipedia guidelines were changed early last year to require that all sports biographies have at least one piece of WP:SIGCOV (not counting database entries). In recent months, there have been efforts to draftify en masse sport substubs that do not comply with this requirement. Accordingly, we have begun a campaign to improve American football biographies that could be targeted in a similar RfC. See full list of most vulnerable American football articles here. The list is not intended as criticism of anyone, as such stubs were permitted prior to the change in policy. Instead, the purpose is to encourage each of us to clean up these stubs so as to avoid draftification or deletion. I am hoping that all American football project members will revisit some of these articles to add the required SIGCOV. Thanks, Cbl62 (talk) 01:00, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

"Template:American football" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:American_football&redirect=no Template:American football] &#32;to the template Template:WikiProject American football has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached. SWinxy (talk) 00:40, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Roster templates for USFL
Could someone with knowledge of USFL templates please check recent edits in the following articles:


 * 2023 Birmingham Stallions season
 * 2023 Houston Gamblers season
 * 2023 Memphis Showboats season
 * 2023 Michigan Panthers season
 * 2023 New Jersey Generals season
 * 2023 New Orleans Breakers season
 * 2023 Philadelphia Stars season
 * 2023 Pittsburgh Maulers season

The pattern of using NFL-templates in these articles is suspicious, because USFL-specific templates exist. Courtesy ping: User:Danjobilly1.

I only noticed this, because I was removing these articles from non-article Category:United States Football League (2022) roster templates. —⁠andrybak (talk) 23:24, 2 October 2023 (UTC)


 * the 2023 rosters were still updating with the current 2024 rosters with the offseason transactions so I used the same template as the ones from 2022 to set the final rosters in place without any of the new transactions. They were the same template as the 2022 ones which is why I used them. Danjobilly1 (talk) 13:38, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

NFL rulebook has moved
The NFL rule book has moved from where the "Motion" article linked to it (http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/24_Penalty_Summary.pdf) in its footnote 7.

I have not searched for other such invalid references, as I am sure that can best be done by an automated procedure.

I recommend that all "external references" to the NFL rule book should use this web page: https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-rulebook/ which contains a link to a downloadable PDF and presumably will be kept valid more reliably than other sources. Soargain (talk) 22:38, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Bill Ellenbogen
Hi, an editor,, has contacted me about the Bill Ellenbogen article. He says he is the subject of the article and would like it to be updated using information from a book, Where Have All Our Giants Gone. I don't get a sense that he is doing this for self-promotion reasons. He says he doesn't have the technical skills to add references; he has a CoI in any case. It's not something I can help with, but I thought someone involved in this project might like to have a look. Best wishes, Tacyarg (talk) 16:36, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note that I've copied this over to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Football_League, as there's more active football editors there. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:44, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:United States Football League (2022)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:United States Football League (2022) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.  ❯❯❯  Raydann  (Talk)   02:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:National Football League
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:National Football League that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:50, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Talk:National Signing Day
This RM to lowercase the titling of National Signing Day may be of interest to participants of this WikiProject. Randy Kryn (talk) 06:02, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Interwikis and Wikidata items
Can someone take a look at this topic on Wikidata ?

The question is about a dewiki article about "fake", and Play-action for which they also have an article. We're wondering if it's a duplicate or if there are several kind of "fake" in football and "play-action" is a special case ? TomT0m (talk) 19:59, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
 * The National Football League project is much more active, so I've moved the question there (see here). BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:27, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Unreferenced American football articles
Hi, there are about 1300 unreferenced articles you can see by putting in the usual search box American football incategory:"All articles lacking sources" You guys may be best placed to help add some references, so please have a look and see if you can reduce the backlog. Thanks for any help you can offer, Boleyn (talk) 13:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)