Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Education/Archive 3

WP:EDUCATION Scope
I am proposing that the scope of WP:EDUCATION be altered slightly to give the project a clear guide as to which articles are to be part of the project, and which are not. I am proposing that all articles in Category:Education be part of WP:EDUCATION, and to include that in our "Scope" section, alongside the idea of standardising content related to education. Thoughts? Twenty Years 17:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This seems like a very reasonable idea. The scope is too wide and unclear at the moment. I spoke too late. Seems it's already been done! :) Roobz (talk) 03:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Reform mathematics
Could one of you pedagogical experts look at this article? It has NPOV problems, reads like a screed against standards-based math, refers to no other approaches. I don't know anything about the issue or I'd do it. -- Chetvorno TALK 20:35, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Certified Fraud Examiner
An article I monitor Certified Fraud Examiner was just tagged as part of this project. I have no problem with the tag, if it is appropriate... it just doesn't seem to fit, IMHO, the banner of Education. The CFE designation is similar to the CPA. It is a professional designation---the only tie that I can see is that it requires continuing education to maintain.Balloonman (talk) 17:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Education of the Public
I'm trying to find a article about governments educating the public about new developments. For example, when a new recycling program is started up, there needs to be public education about what can be recycled. This would cover information on new diseases and other medical information, new emergency response procedures (e.g. when 9-1-1 was standardised), war-time programs, etc. The Public education article itself focuses entirely on "public schools" and my other searches didn't came up empty. Any ideas? --jwandersTalk 19:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I think a good chance is looking in Category:Education by subject, where there are such sub-categories as Category:Environmental education and Category:Medical education. Hope this helps. Thanks. Twenty Years 00:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You almost certainly want to look more in a Communication / Public Relations direction (rather than "education"). The goal of Public Relations (as I understand it) is to create and support relationships between an organization and everyone else...that often includes making sure that everyone else gets information from the organization. I know PR is often thought to just be making the organization look good, but it really should include what you've described. --216.62.101.13 (talk) 17:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Estey Hall
I don't know where to post new articles, so I'll just post here. I'm not sure if you want this article in your project, but I just created it and tagged it. Feel free to read over it and decide if you want it in your project. Cheers. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 11:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Education: Articles of unclear notability
Hello,

there are currently 25 articles in the scope of this project which are tagged with notability concerns. I have listed them here. (Note: this listing is based on a database snapshot of 2008-03-12 and may be slightly outdated.)

I would encourage members of this project to have a look at these articles, and see whether independent sources can be added, whether the articles can be merged into an article of larger scope, or possibly be deleted. Any help in cleaning up this backlog is appreciated. For further information, see WikiProject Notability.

If you have any questions, please leave a message on the Notability project page or on my personal talk page. (I'm not watching this page however.) Thanks! --B. Wolterding (talk) 16:02, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Leonard Hall (Shaw University)
I'm not sure if your project recognizes FA, GA, and DYKs, but this article was a DYK today. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 18:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Assessment
How can I get an article assessed? I want to get JROTC assessed by this WikiProject. GO-PCHS-NJROTC (talk) 20:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Assessment - Business-education partnerships
Hello, it has been recommended that I get some feedback on my wikipedia article Business-education partnerships. My wiki watcher, Ed Johnson, has recommended this and I was asked to leave a note here for that purpose. Thanks for the feedback. My course finishes today so feedback soon would be appreciated. Sandra --Sanhealy (talk) 19:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Educators Infobox Template
Does this WikiProject have a template it uses for educators, and not just educational institutions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkarma (talk • contribs) 03:12, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

None? kkarma 05:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Person could be used for the purpose Dbiel (Talk) 02:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Peace College Main Building
New article I created and tagged it with your project. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 11:29, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Getting It: The psychology of est is up at WP:FAC
Getting It: The psychology of est is up at WP:FAC, comments would be appreciated. FAC discussion page is here: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Getting It: The psychology of est. Cirt (talk) 07:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The FAC nom for this was restarted. Comments would be appreciated at the FAC discussion page. Cirt (talk) 18:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Category:Schools in (state name)
I have been doing a lot of category work keeping parent categories Category:Education and Category:Schools organized. One section of the categorization plan is a real mess and I would like some feed back on how best to clean it up.

Category:Education in the United States has a subcategory Category:United States education by state that is populated with a separate subcategory for each state.

Category:Schools in the United States now has a subcategory Category:Schools in the United States by state but it is populated by only a hand full of state sub category and they formated very inconsistantly.
 * Some are set up as redirect pages to the Education category ie Category:Schools in Michigan
 * The rest contain a mix of the following categories:
 * Category:Schools in the United States by state
 * Category:Education in (state name)
 * Category:Buildings and structures in (state name)
 * Category:Organizations based in (state name)

I was starting to add the missing categories but would like to know how best to do it. We do need some kind of consistancy.
 * Make them all redirect categories?
 * Use all 4 of the above categories? or only the first two.

I created a work page for adding the new categories at User:Dbiel/Category:Schools in the United States by state using Category:United States education by state as the guide

Any thoughts on the subject? Dbiel (Talk) 02:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

List of homeschooled individuals
List of homeschooled individuals has been nominated for deletion at Articles for deletion/List of homeschooled individuals (2nd nomination). Five Years 13:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Summer camps
Category:Summer camps is listed as being a part of this project, but it seems to be an orphan. Summer camps are often privately-owned, for-profit businesses while others are operated by religious or cultural groups. Many of the articles are either promotional or unverifiable. A template would be helpful. Some articles should probably be AfD'd or pruned severely. Gindling Hilltop Camp and Shambhala Sun Summer Camp are two examples of problems. Is anyone interested in doing a mini-project on summer camps? ·:· Will Beback ·:· 07:35, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

History of education in England
I've started an article on this topic, so that Education in England can concentrate on the present-day system. I've copied in the section from Education in England and started to tidy it up a bit. It needs a lot of work. I expect you'll want to bring it into the scope of this project. Also, the section in Education in England will need to be reduced. Itsmejudith (talk) 09:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Edupunk
Please comment at Articles_for_deletion/Edupunk --Enric Naval (talk) 16:57, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup
Currently, 989 of the articles assigned to this project, or 31.3%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 2008-06-18.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. Subsribing is easy - just add a template to your project page. If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 17:27, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Rename proposal for the lists of basic topics
This project's subject has a page in the set of Lists of basic topics.

See the proposal at the Village pump to change the names of all those pages.

The Transhumanist 09:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
 * The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
 * The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
 * A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot  ( Disable )  21:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Edline evaluation
Could someone fill out the WP evaluation for Edline? I want to clean it up a bit more before a good-faith AfD shows up. Thanks.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 12:41, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

WP huh?
Is there no Libraries Project? Nothing to encompass Library at Alexandria, Library of Congress, & the great libraries of London & Paris? I'm shocked. TREKphiler 15:39, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

The George Nethercutt Foundation
Any help here would be appreciated. Also participation in the discussion of whether this article should be deleted. Articles for deletion/The George Nethercutt Foundation Thanks--Counsel (talk) 00:51, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Where's Psychopedagogy?
Where's the article about Psychopedagogy in English Wikipedia, an important pedagogical study nowadays? (See Psicopedagogia.) --Roberto Cruz (talk) 20:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I've created a stub. --Roberto Cruz (talk) 13:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Public education
Public education, which I would expect to be a solid article, is pretty much C-class. Someone on this project might want to take a look. - Jmabel | Talk 23:05, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposed grammar school merge
I have proposed merging Grammar schools in the United Kingdom into Grammar school. Please discuss at Talk:Grammar school. Kanguole (talk) 11:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

History of education
I came across the History of Education article yesterday and thought it was a disgrace, disorganised and very lacking in width. As someone commented at item 35 above (16 May 2007), it is a complete mess and needs significant reorganisation.

So I have started work on improving the structure of the article, trying to give it a proper intro and links to other articles, references, etc. The structure is currently just a list of country by country summaries, with no other perspectives and no cohesion. I hope others will help me improve this article --AlotToLearn (talk) 00:09, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Have reorganised History of education article but needs more work
I have spent three days trying to improve the structure and content of this article, and have taken into account points raised in the talk page by previous commentators

I cannot spare any more time on it, so it must suffer whatever fate is decided!

I believe it is now a much better article, but it is far from a good article and needs effort and expertise from others to improve it more. --AlotToLearn (talk) 08:11, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Importance assessments
Hi, I've been reviewing some of the higher-profile education articles, for inclusion in Version 0.7, an offline release planned for autumn 2008. We have an outdated test list (March 2008) here, and we will be providing you with an updated list by bot very soon. We use the importance assessments from WikiProjects as one of several ways for judging what needs to be included. I am an educator (a Brit teaching at a US college) and it seems to me that a few of the rankings are wrong. Compare, for example:

Advanced Level (UK), Twelfth grade, Emile: or, On Education Higher education, School, Teacher, Public school, Private school
 * Listed currently as Top importance:
 * Listed currently as High importance:

It seems to me that at least some of the five "High" articles I've listed should be "Top", and the three "Top" should be no more than high. I also think that Madrasah, the main type of school in Muslim countries, should be higher than "Mid" - particularly when you consider the historical importance & influence (see article). What do people here think? Cheers, Walkerma (talk) 05:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Basal reader
Hello, I'm a member of WP:Children's literature and have performed some minor edits to Basal reader. I was hoping I might get some members from this project to take a look at the article, as you might have better access to sources which could help improve it (i.e. facts, figures, or studies). Any help is greatly appreciated. Aurum ore (talk) 07:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Education
Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:30, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Good article review for Randy Pausch
Hi, if anyone has time could you please take a look at Randy Pausch and review it for its current Good article nomination? Thanks in advance! :) Gary King ( talk ) 18:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)