Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oregon/Archive 29

Orenco Station and Orenco station
Should either Orenco Station or Orenco station be moved? Perhaps the former to Orenco Station, Hillsboro, or the latter to Orenco station (TriMet)? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:36, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd post on the neighborhood page, but Orenco Station, Hillsboro, Oregon for the first should take care of it. Glad TriMet is moving away from the convoluted street named ones. Aboutmovies (talk) 21:44, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I've moved Orenco Station to Orenco Station, Hillsboro, Oregon. I'm not opposed to moving Orenco station, too, if a disambiguation page is needed. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:40, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I feel that the Orenco station should be a disambiguation page, and Orenco Station a redirect to that disambiguation page (or vice versa). In other words, neither of those titles should be used as the title of an article, because the only difference between them – a difference in capitalization of a single letter – is way too subtle. SJ Morg (talk) 19:09, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with this. So you think Orenco station should be moved to Orenco station (TriMet)? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:32, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Although I'm not sure I agree that "TriMet" is the best disambiguator for MAX station article titles that need a disambiguator, it's the disambiguator currently in use (for the past five weeks only) in all of the few such cases. So, with that in mind, my answer to your question is yes. SJ Morg (talk) 20:15, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

✅ The two articles now live at Orenco Station, Hillsboro, Oregon and Orenco station (TriMet). Orenco station is now a disambiguation page, to which Orenco Station redirects. There are some backlinks needing disambiguation now, but if these pages look right, I'll go ahead and mark this section as resolved for now. Good? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:19, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, as long as you are planning to go back through what "what links here" list and fix issues. SJ Morg (talk) 20:22, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I've updated some templates, so the "what links here" may need a little time to update. Also, some of the TriMet templates have sub-templates, which makes updating a bit tricky. I'll not add a 'resolved' stamp until I can revisit this later. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:47, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Bringing this to your attention, in case you'r aware of other TriMet-related templates needing to be updated. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:51, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I think another one that's super confusing is Cascades station and Cascade Station, although they're not entirely the same. So many words in the English language, and we're endowed with these station names. Maybe the articles just need . Anyway, I'll leave it for you guys to handle. --Truflip99 (talk) 21:00, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, similar, but at least these have slightly different spellings. I'll add distinguish notes for now. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:02, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

Women's March on Portland
*whew* I finally got around to finishing Women's March on Portland. I've requested a copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors, and invite project members to take a look before I nominate the article for Good status soon. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:31, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Seems no good deed goes unpunished. We'll see what happens, but I'm moving forward with the GA request. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:05, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Van Duzer Corridor AVA
Added https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Duzer_Corridor_AVA — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdxdoglover (talk • contribs) 20:07, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I added Oregon, Geography and Wine projects to the talk page, and portal bars and "more citations needed" tag to the article. Good effort! Cheers. Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 21:13, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the help team! I'll buy a round of beer sometime. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pdxdoglover (talk • contribs) 00:07, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I think you mean a round of wine? :) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:10, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

OSU Black History Month
On Friday, OSU, AfroCrowd and other partners will be hosting an edit-a-thon on the OSU campus:
 * Meetup/AfroCROWD/OSU Black History Month

Some new articles have been created leading up to the event:
 * Albina District
 * Albina Riot of 1967
 * Robert E. Lee Folkes
 * Urban League of Portland
 * James D. Saules
 * Robin Holmes

Just a heads up, I assume some additional articles will be created/improved over the next week, and of course we'll have some new editors to welcome. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:11, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 * *bump* There's an editathon commemorating Black History Month, if you're interested in contributing in-person or remotely this afternoon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:12, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

International Women's Day Wikipedia Edit-a-thon, Oregon Jewish Museum, Thursday, March 7
The Oregon Jewish Museum and Center for Holocaust Education, in partnership with social practice artist Shoshana Gugenheim and as part of the Art+Feminism Project, will host the 2nd Annual International Women's Day Wikipedia Edit-a-thon to edit and/or create Wikipedia articles for Jewish women artists. The event will be held at the museum on Thursday, March 7 from 4 to 8 pm. Pre-registration is preferred but not required. Members of the public are invited to come to the museum to learn about the editing process, its history, its impact, and how to do it. We aim to collaboratively edit/enter 18 Jewish women artists into the canon. Support will be provided by an experienced local Wikipedian who will be on site to teach and guide the process. This edit-a-thon will serve as both a public art action and a public educational program. Participants will have an opportunity to select an artist/s ahead of time or on site.

Please visit this link and the meetup page for more information. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:25, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

ZoomCare
ZoomCare has been nominated for deletion. WPORE members may care to weigh in. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:25, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

PNCA Art+Feminism Wikipedia Editathon, Saturday, March 9
The Pacific Northwest College of Art (PNCA) is hosting a Wikipedia edit-a-thon in the Shipley Collins Mediatheque (511 NW Broadway) on Saturday, March 9 from 10am – 2:30pm. This is a free community event designed to teach people to add and edit information about cis and transgender women and nonbinary folks to Wikipedia. We'll have training sessions, artist talks, snacks, free childcare, and plenty of exciting energy and collaboration! You're welcome to drop in any time during the event. Participants are encouraged to bring their own laptops and charging cables, though if you are not able, computer stations will be available.

Please visit this link for more information. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:03, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Theodore Roosevelt Memorial (Portland, Oregon)
What?!? How did I not know about this?

Yes, I've used a lot of material from a single source, but the article is a work in progress as this subject has piqued my curiosity. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:31, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I like "Maybe its style did not fit its time." I think the opposite might be true: fascist style was the new hotness in 1939, but by 1942, it had lost a bit of favor in the US for some reason... – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:43, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Illustration
Does anyone know if we can add an image to the article under fair use, since the artwork is lost? I'm assuming I can't just take a picture from one of the Oregonian sources and upload here, since I don't know who took the photographs and when? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:41, 11 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Here's an interesting one for you. Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 00:19, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, use the historical upload category (assuming, though its been more than a year since I've done it). Aboutmovies (talk) 21:49, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * OK, I will see if I can figure it out. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:01, 14 January 2019 (UTC) Eh, I still don't know how to do this when I don't know the photographer's name or original publication date. I'll let someone else give this a try, if possible. --- Another Believer  ( Talk ) 22:04, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Are you familiar with uploading historical images under fair use? There are 2 sources below with illustrations, but I'm not sure who took the photographs or when. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:52, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Sources: --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:08, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 * https://www.oregonlive.com/expo/life-and-culture/erry-2018/11/1782ea3ea29557/29-onlyinportland-people-and-p.html
 * https://www.oregonlive.com/expo/life-and-culture/g66l-2019/01/82affb0c708567/what-happened-to-portlands-fas.html

Bit of a random request here, but would you happen to be familiar with uploading images of lost sculptures as historical photographs under fair use, and mind giving this a shot? No worries if unsure or uninterested, just figured you might be ale to help. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:13, 14 January 2019 (UTC)


 * I'd start by searching the Oregonian archives through the Multnomah County Library website (or another library), and see if you can narrow down the publication date and possibly the provenance of the photos. You could also search copyright renewals, though if I recall correctly the O has been pretty diligent about them. Happy to discuss further if that isn't clear enough. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 17:22, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Very helpful, thank you, but I've searched the archives and can only find one article with an image, dated November 9, 1941. Unfortunately, I can't confirm this is the same image used in the recent Oregonian articles linked above. The image does not have a particularly helpful caption or credit any photographer. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 04:01, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

List of tallest buildings in Portland
Just an FYI, an editor has proposed some major changes to List of tallest buildings in Portland, Oregon, if no one objects in the very near future. Sharing here in case any editors want to take a quick look: Talk:List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Portland,_Oregon.

Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:34, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

R.I.P.
Burnside Brewing Company. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:16, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Danielle Outlaw
Danielle Outlaw is currently a work in progress as part of an ongoing class assignment. I've upgraded the article from stub- to start-class, but haven't reviewed the most recent edits in detail. Care to help keep an eye on the page? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:34, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

WP 1.0 Bot Beta
Hello! Your WikiProject has been selected to participate in the WP 1.0 Bot rewrite beta. This means that, starting in the next few days or weeks, your assessment tables will be updated using code in the new bot, codenamed Lucky. You can read more about this change on the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team page. Thanks! audiodude (talk) 06:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Homelessness in Oregon
I forked Homelessness in Oregon out of Homelessness in the United States by state back in December 2017. Just today, User:Graywalls merged the content back into Homelessness in the United States by state, which I reverted. I believe there's enough coverage of homelessness in Oregon to justify a standalone article. Heck, IMO, there's enough coverage of homeless in Portland alone to justify Homelessness in Portland, Oregon, but let's not get too crazy.

In short, Graywalls and I went back and forth a bit, and decided to simply post here for more editor feedback. Do project members think content about homelessness in Oregon should live at Homelessness in Oregon or Homelessness in the United States by state? Comments on either talk page are appreciated. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:55, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I've also shared a collection of sources at Talk:Homelessness_in_Oregon. Some of them are specific to Central Oregon, Corvallis, Eugene, Portland, etc. Lots to potential content to add. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 20:36, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Benjamin Gifford, Art Work of Portland, Mt. Hood and the Columbia River
This 1912 book was passed down to me- from my great great great grandfather Allen, who worked on BOTG, which is approximately where Gifford lived. Anyhow, it's a giant leatherbound book with very heavy pages- 8lbs, 11x14". Copyright date is 1912- which is great, everything is PD! There's a lot of "pretty nature pictures" and of Mt. Hood, but to me what's interesting are pictures of things that likely have Wikipedia pages- here's what I noted: Ezra Meeker, Council Crest (road), cornell (road); World Forestry Center (which is good, it's a better picture than the presumed-PD version rescued); BOTG showing a "bridge ramp" before the bridge was built; USS Boston (1884); bull run; washignton street with the downtown buildings; larch mtn; dalles rock; pulpit rock; some other rock at The Dalles. The back half (or last third?) is full of flowery text from Eva Emery Dye.

Hard to find much on it, it doesn't seem to exist at MultCo library or LOC, though it's at OHS and there's a copy for sale on amazon.

Further, maybe I'll research create a page for Mr. Gifford (bio page, wiki commons cat, OSU bio, OSU pic archive). Love old gems like this. tedder (talk) 18:15, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, and some sample pages. tedder (talk) 18:31, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a great find . (BOTG?) Worth noting that I've since found better pics of the World Forestry Center that are definitely public domain, but it sounds like this book might have even higher quality reproductions than those. From your samples, it looks like these might be actual photographic reproductions, rather than halftones? I hope so! Looking forward to seeing some high quality scans. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 20:16, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * BOTG. Sorry. And yeah, full photos on very heavy paper. I'll have to be careful opening it to scan but it's certainly worth it. tedder (talk) 00:42, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Dignity Village and Sunderland
See Talk:Sunderland, Portland, Oregon to help decide if Dignity Village should be mentioned in the Sunderland, Portland, Oregon article. Thank you. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:25, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Elephants Delicatessen
An editor requested speedy deletion of the Elephants Delicatessen article. I've asked for the page to be restored and moved into the draft space for further improvement, but the deleting editor is asking me to jump through hoops just for the restoration:
 * User_talk:Another_Believer

Is another admin willing to please restore the page and move into draft space, if needed? Also, do other editors have thoughts on notability? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:21, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * It's strange that the editor in question would not restore the article to Draft space. You might have to go to WP:DRV. What a pain. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:27, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , Right? I'm scrambling this morning because an editor has either merged, nominated for deletion, or speedy deleted several articles, which now I'm working to rescue. I didn't think asking for restoration of a page into draft space was controversial... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:28, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Making you aware of this discussion. Do you mind please restoring the page? Thank you. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:29, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Apologies for taking over this talk page, but every additional prevaricatory comment from User:Another Believer is making me more sure that I shouldn't go along with his request. If there are sources showing notability, it should not be difficult to list some of them as requested. Deb (talk) 15:35, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , I don't know what "prevaricatory" means, but I also don't know what good sharing a list of paywalled sourcing from the library archives will accomplish. If multiple editors think restoring a page in the draft space is reasonable, I'm not sure where the problem lies. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:38, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * "Prevaricatory" comes from "prevaricate", which means "to speak falsely or misleadingly; deliberately misstate or create an incorrect impression; lie" (source). So is accusing  of lying, which is a defamatory personal attack unless it is backed up with evidence. All of that aside, restoring a deleted page into Draft space is a reasonable request that I have seen granted without question many times; I don't know why Deb is engaging in this back and forth instead of simply restoring the page into Draft space. If the page were copyvio or defamatory, I would understand, but I have seen no claims to that effect. I will assume in good faith that Deb has a reason, but aside from agreeing to delete the page on the grounds that "there was no claim of notability and there was a clear advertising intent", I have seen no claim that restoring the deleted content into Draft space will do harm of any sort. There is clearly something I do not understand here, but it doesn't look right to me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:49, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, maybe I've used the wrong word then. The definition I'm familiar with is "Digressing and being indirect or evasive". I don't mean thatUser:Another Believer is lying. I mean that his responses to my questions are essentially avoiding the issue and playing for time. In view of the general concerns about his contributions that I've seen from others, I think I've been pretty reasonable in asking these questions. After all, what is the big hurry? Deb (talk) 15:56, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , I'm just asking for a page to be restored in the draft space. Another editor has said this is a reasonable request. If you refuse to do so, please just say so, and I will find another editor to help or go to DRV. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:59, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You're doing it again - procrastinating. I've told you the conditions under which I'll restore the text. Bear in mind that any content that might be considered advertising can be speedily deleted from draft space the minute you create it, so you should have thought about what you are going to put there before you start drafting. Deb (talk) 16:01, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Elephants Delicatessen has been restored. Thank you. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:33, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * My criteria for restoration is anyone gets their article back in draft if a) they ask for it b) it's not G3, G10 or G12 and c) it hasn't been closed as "delete" at AfD. I might decline to restore a G11 if the user is not a regular and very obviously here to promote something rather than write an encyclopedia, but that's not the case here. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  16:38, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I have identified the article as having a history of business owner directing directly adding contents under their own name (for which they have been banned) to it and when I came upon it, it was nothing but a list of locations which gave me a reasonable cause to declare it an unambiguous promotion, in your assessment do you find my application of G-11 completely out of line? What is the general community view on [admin shopping] until one finds one that will comply with their request? Graywalls (talk) 17:13, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't think I was clear - I meant I would decline to restore a G11 deleted article on request in certain circumstances. However, this wasn't one of those. Regarding the "admin shopping", the solution is why I mentioned AfD / MfD, because a community consensus to delete trumps any admin decision. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  17:15, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Quality of the current draft aside, I've started a discussion at Draft talk:Elephants Delicatessen to discuss notability based on secondary coverage. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:29, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Help with George Rogers Park
Can someone confirm why the George Rogers Park article still says geocoordinates are needed? Someone just made a few edits to the article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:50, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:37, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Actually, eyes are still welcome here since someone just added a bunch of content. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:08, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Possible COI issue at Food carts in Portland, Oregon
See my post at Talk:Food carts in Portland, Oregon for details. The article includes a sentence from a COI editor that is sourced to the Portland Business Journal, but I can't access the source as it's behind a paywall. I want to make sure that the Journal source verifies the sentence—help from any editors with a subscription would be appreciated. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 18:04, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I've removed the sentence for now. I won't object if another editor restores it after reviewing the source. Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 18:38, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Dante's at AfD
--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:53, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Articles for deletion/Dante's

Update: The result of the discussion was no consensus. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:27, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The nominator has asked for the discussion to be reopened... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:43, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Closed as no consensus. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:16, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Category:2000 establishments in Portland, Oregon has been nominated for discussion
Category:2000 establishments in Portland, Oregon, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for merger to Category:2000 establishments in Oregon, along with similar merges for 17 other "YYYY establishments in Portland, Oregon" categories. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:35, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Second Foundation at AfD
--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Articles for deletion/Second Foundation (Oregon)

Bit House Saloon
Bit House Saloon was also marked for speedy deletion, which I've asked to be restored at Draft:Bit House Saloon. How do project members feel about the current status of this page? Is main space appropriate? I've asked the editor who keeps marking pages for deletion to please slow down and try talk page discussions before forcing restorations, etc. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:22, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * WP:G11 was improperly applied. The prose on the page is written neutrally, and it is all referenced to reliable sources that cover the subject of the article directly. That said, I don't think it would survive an AFD unless there are other sources that describe something other than how great this saloon is. I recommend adding sourced text about something other than "this is a popular bar in Portland" before trying to have it moved to article space (unless more drama is something you crave). – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:36, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * , Definitely not a drama llama here, and your suggestions are noted. Thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:39, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Now an advert tag has been added. I feel like I'm being trolled... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:18, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Photo requests
If you find yourself out and about, I'm hoping to illustrate the following articles:
 * Weed the People: seeking photo of the building at 723 North Tillamook Street
 * No Vacancy Lounge: seeking photo of the building at 235 SW 1st Avenue
 * I've also had a request for photographs of the ongoing construction at Providence Park

Finally, a friendly reminder to Portlanders, there are other image requests at  Category:WikiProject Oregon image requests in Portland area.

Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:32, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!
A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
 * – Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Is Willamette Week a reliable source?
Is Willamette Week a reliable source?

Related discussions:
 * Wikipedia_talk:Notability
 * Talk:CC_Slaughters

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:59, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * This would be an appropriate question for reliable sources noticeboard, not here. Graywalls (talk) 15:55, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

First Unitarian Church of Portland
Yet again, I find myself disagreeing with the same editor. Can others take a look at First Unitarian Church of Portland, where we are debating the appropriateness of including an image of the Outside In drug clinic? Thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:51, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * See also: Talk:Pride Northwest and Talk:Outside In (organization) re: removal of problematic content to remove the COI tags. I don't disagree, the tags were appropriate, but they can easily be removed by cutting out bad content. The editor seems more interested in keeping the tags than trimming bad content. I'm really trying to avoid this editor but they keep poking me over and over and over. Some third opinions would be helpful. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:57, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I've trimmed content in both articles. If NPOV is the problem, specific text needs to be addressed. If the current articles are fairly neutral, can the tags be removed? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:47, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The Outside In and Pride NW matters involve people direct editing on the pages of their own organization. Please voice your concerns on these specific matters on the COI/N threads in place. Graywalls (talk) 16:11, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

World Famous Kenton Club at AfD
--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:47, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Articles for deletion/World Famous Kenton Club
 * Resolved as unanimous (with the exception of article creator opposing deletion) delete for not meeting notability. Graywalls (talk) 12:04, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Club Portland
I'm getting quite tired of interacting with one particular editor. Regardless, they have removed the image from the Club Portland article, possibly for good reason. But, the image has not been nominated for deletion at Wikimedia Commons, so the issue has not been resolved. File:Club Bathbohouse.jpg is the file being discussed on the article's talk page. Is someone more familiar with image policies willing to mark the image for deletion at Commons, if appropriate? That way someone won't just add the image back to the infobox as soon as they realize one lives at Commons. Thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:38, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * This one had a good reason. The photo in question was also found in a Willamette Week article, hosted on the newspaper's Flickr. On there, it was marked " © All Rights Reserved. ". Another editor later showed it was marked as CC-BY-SA on a different Flickr account owned by an individual. Given how it was posted on WW's Flickr, it was a reasonable concern and good faith concern regarding the use of a copyright photo ripped from the web.

Evidence that supported the concern initially: Graywalls (talk) 07:41, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * https://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-12321-landmark-club-portland-bathhouse-set-to-close.html
 * http://www.flickr.com/photos/31222852@N00/548916388/
 * Resolved after a reasonable refutation was provided in talk page

No Vacancy Lounge
Am I being trolled? Am I being unreasonable? I don't know how much more I can take from this editor. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:34, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * - I don't believe this is the right venue to vent about others and general editorial disputes. If you haven't already, please see the suggestion that has been given in Escape club TALK PAGE by a 3O. Since you chose to bring this here, I'd like to defend my position that what I believe you're accusing me of "trolling" was about me removing a bunch of events listed out on that venue's page referenced only by event calendars. I removed what was essentially a roster of events that cites Portland Mercury's event announcement calendar and "things to dos". I even included the policy, which I believe is to be applicable in reason for removing them in edit comment. That policy is WP:IINFO Graywalls (talk) 15:54, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

I've proposed a path forward here. I hope Graywalls will agree to this proposal, and I invite other editors to weigh in as well. Specifically, I think some outside opinions re: the 4 events and 7 citations would be helpful. I don't know how else to resolve the editorial disputes, so if this process won't work, I give up. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:12, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

How many people work at Hoffman Construction?
The number varies depending on where I look. Drastically. Portland Business Journal shows $1.4 billion in FY2017 revenue and 938 employees in 2017. Other information shows something in 400s. I don't believe they've more than doubled their employees in the past couple of years either. Where is a good source to find authoritative information like this on privately held companies, or should it just be omitted? This is the one that says 938. https://www.bizjournals.com/portland/subscriber-only/2018/07/05/largest-privately-held-companies-in.html (You can see the first few, which includes Hoffman. Our rules is verifiablility and not truth, so I know this source is fine; but still I don't know where such a drastic difference comes from. Graywalls (talk) 17:41, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Right now, I’m researching large real estate development company. Number of employees in that firm varies between winter/off-season and prime construction season … in fact it almost doubles each summer before returning to baseline employment levels in winter.  Since Hoffman is a construction company, it seems to me that its employment numbers might vary significantly depending on how many projects they are working on at any given time … and they could drop (or ramp up) quickly as on-site project work begins or ends.  If that’s the case, it will be almost impossible to find an employment numbers that stays valid for any length of time.  So, unless you intend to research/update Hoffman employment number on regular basis, I’d recommend you pick reliable source … Portland Business Journal seems like a good one … and use their number with an attribution to the date that the data covers.  For example:  “As of 2017, Hoffman had 938 employees.” (with appropriate footnote); or use range statement, e.g. “In recent years, Hoffman employment has ranged from around 400 to over 900.” (again, with appropriate source notes).  Personally, I like text with as of date (2017)/firm number (938). While these comments aren’t authoritative, hope they are at least helpful.--Orygun (talk) 21:09, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Calling other Portland city center experts
Wikipedia editor insists Oldtown is part of downtown and he insists it even after provided with this map and explaining to him that the two neighborhoods do not overlap, as some neighborhoods do, for example parts of Lloyd District and Sullivan's Gulch. Despite giving him reference to the article which states the venue in question is at the edge of Oldtown and official map from the city, he insists on finding "another person who agrees" with me on the aforementioned matter. This is where the editor states Oldtown is part of Downtown Would someone confirm or deny the validity? Graywalls (talk) 16:04, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I've always understood Oldtown to be part of downtown. Oregon Interactive Corp, who runs Oregon.com, seems to think they're one in the same, as seen here, where Portland's Old Town is referenced as "downtown." Travel + Leisure states "A 38-foot arch flanked by two bronze-cast lions greets you as you enter Old Town Chinatown, in downtown Portland", as seen here. Portland Monthly states "Old Town—a corner of downtown where Portland’s problems have long concentrated..." here. --Kbabej (talk) 00:25, 13 April 2019 (UTC)


 * http://cleanandsafepdx.com/retail-support/old-town-chinatown.html "The neighborhood is also easily walkable to downtown Portland’s Central Business District and the neighboring Pearl District."


 * http://pdxoldtown.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/OTCTCA-bylaws-revised-2017.pdf



The Old Town Community Association is hereby organized as a neighborhood association in accordance with the guidelines established by the City of Portland’s Office of Neighborhood Involvement. Old Town neighborhood, which includes Chinatown, Japantown, Ankeny Plaza, Skidmore, and the Waterfront, is a diverse area and all of the diverse components of the community have a right to be in the neighborhood.



Article III: Boundaries Section 3.1: The boundaries of the Old Town Neighborhood Association will be designated as follows: Old Town Community Association Bylaws December 6, 2017 Page 2 of 8 Section 3.2: The eastern boundary will be the Willamette River, the southern most boundary will be SW Stark Street, the western boundary will be NW Broadway from the Broadway Bridge to W Burnside and from W Burnside to SW 3rd Avenue, south on SW 3rd Avenue to SW Pine, east on SW Pine Street to SW 2nd Avenue, south on SW 2nd Avenue to SW Oak Street, east on SW Oak Street to SW 1st Avenue and south on SW 1st Avenue to SW Stark Street, and the northern boundary will be the Broadway Bridge. Section 3.3: The Old Town Community Association recognizes that there are areas of common interest with both the Downtown Community Association to the south and the Pearl District Neighborhood Association to the west. A Boundaries Committee will be established, if necessary, to dialogue with any association concerning boundary issues. Article IV: Working with Neighborhood Organizations The Old Town Community Association will establish a process to share information which may be of interest to the overall central city community, such as the Downtown Community Association and the Pearl District Neighborhood Association and any other recognized organization established or existing within or proximate to the neighborhood boundaries. Article V: Membership Section 5.1: Eligibility. Any real or corporate individual, who resides or owns property, in the area described in Article III will be eligible for membership in the association. At the time of application for membership any business licensee or private non-profit organization located in the area described in Article III shall designate one representative who shall exercise the voting right of said licensee or organization. The designated representative may be changed by submitting written notice to the Association.

Doesn't say it is within downtown. The only thing supportable seems to be that its adjacent to, rather than within, downtown. Graywalls (talk) 01:33, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * That source doesn't say it's adjacent to downtown or separate from it. --Kbabej (talk) 01:44, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * See also: Downtown Portland, Oregon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:49, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * The sourcing for lede is lacking and the written description is an erratic description of the visual information by whoever wrote it. I tagged the contentious portion of that claim, probably just left out to avoid unnecessary wordiness. The formal definition from a verifiable source (PDNA Bylaws) disagrees. The latter is verifiable, the former is not. The definition posted within the bylaws available at http://portlanddowntownna.com/about/bylawss/ is what defines downtown area. Graywalls (talk) 02:42, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * You've asked "Would someone confirm or deny the validity?" Even though you have another opinion, which you asked for, that doesn't seem to be enough for some reason. I'm thinking you meant only for someone to confirm your stance? I also don't see why you're tagging the Downtown Portland, Oregon article, which clearly stated Old Town is part of downtown, until a consensus has been reached on the subject. --Kbabej (talk) 03:02, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I was seeing if someone disagrees, and was hoping that the disagreement (if any) comes with a reliable source directly supporting "Old Town is a part of downtown". Graywalls (talk) 03:11, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I supplied three sources, two of which are absolutely RS. Did you miss those above? --Kbabej (talk) 03:15, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

The term "Downtown Portland" can refer to different boundaries in different contexts. There is a neighborhood with an officially-recognized neighborhood association, which has clearly defined boundaries; that is what Greywalls refers to. But it's not the only definition, as Kbabej's links demonstrate; it's common, and correct, for people and reliable sources to use the term to refer to different areas. So the question of whether Old Town is part of Downtown or not depends entirely on context. If you're talking about the City of Portland's official designations, it is not; they are two distinct neighborhoods. If you're talking about what 99% of Portlanders and reliable sources writing about Portland would say, it certainly is. Outside of a bureaucratic context, no Portlander would say Old Town is separate from Downtown. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 00:14, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Alert: UO statue controversy
The article The Pioneer (Eugene, Oregon) could use multiple editors' efforts to manage a developing news story. Perhaps the larger perspective is the "Hidden History" committee established at UO to evaluate diversity of the artistic representations on campus, described in the second of these resources: I can't work on it until later this week. -- Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 02:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks . I worked on this article a little; there was good coverage in the OHQ when it was installed. I'll try to take another pass at it soon, I agree, it's important to capture stuff like this in a timely way. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 00:17, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Mistake with Diamond Peak
Any of you out there who are well versed in Did you know matters:

I was just poking around once again with the Diamond Peak article, which became a GA about a year ago. One thing really jumped out at me after all this time – prior to winning GA status, there was a successful DYK hook that is very misleading (at best). A user pointed this out on the talk page on the date that the hook was featured on the Main Page. Here was the line in question:
 * Did you know... that along with Mount Defiance and Mount Bailey, Diamond Peak is one of the few andesitic shield volcanos in the Cascade Range?

There are many other andesitic shield volcanoes in the Cascades besides those three. If we can agree that it was a very wrong line to publish and especially so on the Main Page (and I'd welcome that discussion first), I'm wondering if there is some apology or retraction process that can be done?? --Jsayre64 (talk) 06:33, 28 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Ah, digging a little deeper, I see there was a long thread on this topic here, but I'm out of time to read through it until tomorrow. Jsayre64 (talk) 06:45, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Portland Planning Commission
Hello again WPORE folks. I'd like to create an article on the Portland Planning Commission, which was established in 1918 to advise the Portland City Council on land use matters. I believe the commission is notable—see on Wikidata for authority control identifiers and and the commission's WorldCat identify for some bibliographic material. However, I haven't been able to figure out if the commission is still extant. Do any project members happen to know when the commission was disestablished or whether it presently operates under a different name? This seems like an important piece of information to have before creating the article. :) – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 02:09, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * A quick search on Newspapers.com shows the last reported activity of the Commission in 1992, with more recent mentions only on the resumes of candidates for office, all listed as past service on the Commission. Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 10:42, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hmm, the commission's WorldCat identity records publications by the commission up until 2000, so I think it was still active after 1992. I'll take a look in the Oregonian archives to see if I can find some more info on the commission's later history; I'll hold off on creating the article until I figure out how/when it was disestablished. Thanks for looking into this though! – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 14:40, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

"Northwest District" vs. "Northwest Portland"
Northwest Portland currently redirects to Northwest District, Portland, Oregon. I was surprised to see this, instead expecting it to redirect to Neighborhoods of Portland, Oregon similar to North Portland or Southwest Portland. Do sources actually use "Northwest Portland" to refer to the Northwest District neighborhood rather than the Northwest "quadrant" it's located in? I personally haven't seen this. I'm inclined to retarget the redirect but wanted to check in with other project members since it's a longstanding redirect with several incoming links. Would anyone be opposed? Pinging since they had originally created the redirect. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 01:36, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, I oppose that. Unlike the four other "quadrants", "Northwest Portland" commonly refers to the district of that name, and indeed I believe it is a much more common reference for that area than "Northwest District" is (but I have not objected to keeping the neighborhood article at Northwest District, Portland, Oregon, to avoid its being confused with the quadrant).  The city quadrant that has addresses starting "Northwest" which is much larger, is effectively truncated much closer-in to the central city (than any of the other quadrants) due to Forest Park and topography (to the west) and by the river's path (in the north), and I've always figured that is a key reason that the term "Northwest Portland" commonly means the neighborhood, not the larger area. SJ Morg (talk) 02:02, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Is it true that "Northwest Portland" more commonly refers to the neighborhood? Take a look at the redirect's incoming links: the links at Oregon's 3rd congressional district, Reportedly haunted locations in Oregon, and List of reportedly haunted locations in the United States clearly refer to the quadrant rather than the neighborhood. The link at Alexander D. McDougall House clearly refers to the neighborhood. The links at Oregon College of Art and Craft and User:Halvorsen brian/Meier & Frank strikes are ambiguous to me. This seems like a pretty even split in usage. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 02:35, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * This also just doesn't line up with my personal experience. If someone told me they lived in Northwest Portland, I'd take that to mean they lived on a street prefixed with "NW", not that they lived in the Northwest District specifically. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 03:03, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, linking within Wikipedia doesn't mean anything. My position is based on what mainstream media and other reliable sources do, not what other Wikipedia editors do. Yes, some editor at those articles you mention above linked to Northwest Portland, and the links there do not refer to the neighborhood, but they had no other linking choices (except a piped link to a section of the broader article) – Wikipedia has no article on the Northwest quadrant of Portland, just as it has no articles on Southwest Portland, Southeast Portland, etc., so that editor just linked to what he/she figured was the closest thing.  In the "Haunted ...." article:  I have never considered the "Shanghai tunnels" as being in Northwest Portland (nor seen other people doing so, that I can recall), which does not extend east of I-405, and I checked the cited KGW article, and find that it makes no mention of Northwest Portland (so, again, that was just a linking choice by a WP editor). I stand by my earlier comments, that Aboutmovies' 2008 redirect choice was correct, and I feel it should not be changed. With regard to your most recent comment: Maybe it's a generational thing (I've lived in the Portland area for decades, and maybe the terminlogy usage/meaning has been evolving), but I definitely would not interpret it the way you do if someone told me they "lived in Northwest Portland". I would instantly infer a smaller area than you do. However, it would be nice if we could receive input from multiple other editors, to try to reach a consensus. SJ Morg (talk) 03:15, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Saying that linking "doesn't mean anything" is simply not true. WP:NAMINGCRITERIA specifies that we should prefer an article title that "editors would naturally use to link to the article from other articles". Of course, this doesn't give us a pass to ignore the naming conventions established in third-party sources; but the number and variety of incoming links a page has is still a factor to consider in naming debates.I don't have time to do a thorough search tonight, but there appears to be some discrepancy in how "Northwest District" "Northwest Portland" is used in third-party sources as well. Consider, for example, this OPB article about an "Amazon facility in Northwest Portland" (the facility is in the Northwest Industrial area, not the Northwest District). This is the kind of general usage I'm familiar with. This Travel Portland article, on the other hand, uses "Northwest Portland" to refer specifically to the Northwest District neighborhood. I'm not convinced that this usage is employed in the majority of sources, however, so I'd suggest you provide some links if you want to convince me. :) And yes, I'd of course value the input from other editors on this topic. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 03:55, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Edit: I meant to refer to the quadrant. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 17:44, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Would any other editors like to comment? I'm just curious: when you see "Northwest Portland" do you think of the neighborhood or the quadrant? – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 02:15, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * , When I hear "NW Portland", I think of the quadrant. I've lived in Portland for a decade. I think we should have Wikipedia articles for each of the city's "quadrants". Links to specific neighborhoods and other areas would be mentioned within. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:20, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying. I presume you'd want to create the article on the Northwest Portland quadrant with the title "Northwest Portland". In the meanwhile, would you support retargeting the redirect as I proposed above? – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 14:46, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * , I would, but I don't feel too strongly and would rather just see the redirect converted into a stub or short article. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:55, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure the individual quadrants meet the criteria for standalone pages as described at WP:PAGEDECIDE. Neighborhoods of Portland, Oregon is still a reasonable length (it could use expansion, actually), so I think forking at this point would be premature. In any case, it would be good to hear from before taking action on the redirect. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 15:53, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * When I think of NW Portland I think of the quadrant. To be honest, didn't even know there was a neighborhood going by that name. To me NW Portland is the Pearl, the NW Industrial area, Forest Heights, the alphabet district, and maybe a few other neighborhoods. I've lived in the PDX metro area for close to 40 years, if that matters, 3 whole months in PDX itself. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:15, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

, would you like to respond? With the comments from Another Believer and Aboutmovies, I'm seeing a consensus to retarget the redirect. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 17:38, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The fact that a total of only four people (including me) have expressed an opinion is disappointing, but it's clear that there is a consensus among this very small sample, so I won't stand in the way of changing the redirect's target. But I agree that new stub articles for the five "quadrants" should not be created until the Neighborhoods of Portland, Oregon article has been developed more. SJ Morg (talk) 05:26, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you for understanding. I'll go ahead and retarget the redirect. Since the discussion pool is rather small, I'm willing to revert this if another editor wants to restore the old redirect. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 17:28, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Digging out some old companies: Lambert Tire Co, Lumbermen's Bondholders Co
I left a bunch of information on the Lumbermen's Building from looking at stock certificate number 4- not bad, the first stock issued after the president/VP/secretary, I assume. Anyhow, next one is Lambert Tire & Rubber Co. here's a lawsuit, here's a patent, there's a nice article in 'India Rubber' on him and the Portland ties; it claims he invented the Lambert cherry; perhaps he's related to Joseph Hamilton Lambert who is credited as the inventor?

Mostly I'm just suggesting interesting people we haven't really written about. I can't figure out what happened to the tire company (yet). tedder (talk) 03:43, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I found a handful of newspaper clippings on Lambert Tire:


 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34493962/standard_warranty_members_of_tthe/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34493730/why_worry_with_punctures/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34493459/j_penfield_seiberling_dies_at_84_part/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34493538/j_penfield_seiberling_dies_member_of/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34492768/lambert_tire_rubber_co_begins/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34492660/seiberlings_take_control_of_lambert/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34493630/wheels_give_nye_a_lift/
 * This photo of the original plant is blurry on the clipping, but better as a screenshot from the digitized newspaper: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34492856/photo_plant_of_the_lambert_tire/
 * If you like, I could upload the screenshot, as it's public domain, published in 1919. Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 17:58, 2 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Update: looks like Henry M. is a son of Joseph H. Lambert:
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34499049/lambert_will_filed_in_court/
 * ...and Henry M. invented a "nonrefillable" bottle in 1908, but no articles showing he successfully manufactured it-- just ads soliciting investors:
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34498861/cantrefil_bottle_co/

He also invented a "de-aquating" process:
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34497068/deaqquating_plant_in_ashland/
 * A few more clippings:
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34499645/east_peoria_offers_40_acres_and/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34499894/ground_floor_lambert_multiplus_tire/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34499987/lambet_will_leave_for_east_on_monday/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34496820/local_tire_co_begins_marketing/
 * https://www.newspapers.com/clip/34499261/patents_granted_to/
 * Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 20:46, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

End Domestic Terrorism
Perhaps (hopefully) the End Domestic Terrorism event this weekend won't amount to much, but the scheduled rally has already received a lot of attention, even nationally. I've started an article and invite others to help expand. Thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:22, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Related, I've created a more general article at Protests in Portland, Oregon. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:50, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Joey Gibson + Patriot Prayer
Should Joey Gibson (political activist) be kept or merged into Patriot Prayer? Discussion at Talk:Patriot Prayer.

Thanks. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:22, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

South Portland, Oregon
South Portland, Oregon is coming in 2020. This will require updating to Wikipedia articles (neighborhood pages, address changes, etc., lists (such as National Register of Historic Places listings in Southwest Portland, Oregon, creation of National Register of Historic Places listings in South Portland, Oregon), and categories. Sure, pages will get updated over time, but I'm also wondering if we could be pro-active and prepare to make some of these changes when the time is right.

Are any editors interested in helping to identify potential tasks and/or check them off next year?

Should we create a subpage to coordinate efforts? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:40, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Bissinger Wool Pullery
Hello Oregon Project. An article I just created has been accepted. It is of the Bissinger Wool Pullery in Troutdale, Oregon. I believe it is within the scope of the Oregon Project and should be considered for such inclusion. It is rated B on the quality scale. I know little about including articles into Projects or if it is even proper for me, one not related to the project to do so. Thus this message.Hu Nhu (talk) 16:57, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for this Oregon-related article. You'll find editors in this project who can be helpful when you have questions about Oregon topics. There is no need to officially join (which only involves adding your name to the "Participants" section on the project page). You are also welcome to join discussions of editing issues raised on this talk page. Welcome! —Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 05:43, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Michael E. Stencel article
Hello WikiProjectOregon. I've another article for your consideration: Michael E. Stencel is an article which I wrote and it was accepted very recently. He is the adjutant general of the Oregon National Guard, and I believe the article is within the scope of the Oregon project. Perhaps you might like to consider it for inclusion into the project.Hu Nhu (talk) 23:11, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Interlachen at AfD
FYI: --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:27, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Articles for deletion/Interlachen, Oregon
 * Kept. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:04, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Monuments 2019
See commons:Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2019 in the United States if interested! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:44, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * 200+ images of Oregon were uploaded at commons:Category:Images from Wiki Loves Monuments 2019 in Oregon, if any project members want to help categorize. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:26, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I have done about half of them now. I think I'll let someone else do the rest. SJ Morg (talk) 02:40, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , Wonderful, thank you! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:58, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Cider Riot
Cider Riot is about a business slated to close in a few days. On the talk page, I've asked if there's currently an appropriate level of detail about the SUV incident, specifically whether the "aliases" and victim's alma mater are necessary. For the record, I'm not engaging with the editor to added the content because they are banned from interacting from me. Soliciting feedback from other members of WikiProject Oregon. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:41, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Portland Tribune contents going subscription only starting in 2020
I suspect it would be the same with rest of the papers under the Pamplin Media portfolio. It may make it more difficult to find sources on Portland related topics. https://www.wweek.com/news/2019/12/20/portland-tribune-will-cut-its-print-circulation-from-two-editions-per-week-down-to-one/ Graywalls (talk) 22:24, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Gentrification of Portland, Oregon
Thoughts on this recent addition to the Gentrification of Portland, Oregon article? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:49, 25 October 2019 (UTC)


 * So much text I barely scanned it. What do you think?  I saw some stuff about Alibina that sounded reasonable, but it's so hard to tell what's going on with a giant diff. Sometimes you move one sentence, and the whole article is now a diff with the previous version. Peregrine Fisher (talk) 04:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * , I went ahead and removed the content. Perhaps there are some things worth keeping, but some of the text was clearly not neutral or entirely compliant w/ Wikipedia's standards. I think we can do better. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:31, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Tierra Del Mar, Oregon in the news
I was in the middle of adding some fascinating history and an unregistered editor added some cable stuff that I'm not as interested in, which would have created an edit conflict. So I took over. I'm hoping the resulting outline is not too much of a mess but in true Valfontis style, I think that is all the work you will get out of me on this, if anyone wants to make sure it looks decent and wants to add some history, especially the not-FB kind! Cheers! The mysterious Valfontis (talk) 06:34, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Found this article on Oregpn Parks and Recreation's 2014 purchase of property for a planned state park near Tierra del Mar, with a little history related to a failed proposal for a golf course on the property. Couldn't find anything else on the proposed state park. Does anyyone have info on that? — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 19:40, 10 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't understand. Is the current version good and needs to be proteted, or it's bad and needs to be changed.  Or just watch the page? Peregrine Fisher (talk) 06:37, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * What is going on? I'll probably loose interest soon. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tierra_Del_Mar,_Oregon&diff=935215086&oldid=935113790 Peregrine Fisher (talk) 06:48, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Nothing is wrong. Just asking for a second edit, because I was writing an update and someone added similar information, so I merged my info with theirs, which might have created a mess. And saying hi. Hi. It was in the national news is all. The people of Tierra del Mar think something is wrong, which is why the place is in the news. An unregistered editor thought the AP article should originate from the Star-Advertiser and not the Washington Post. I disagree, since we lost the author info, but ::shrug:: If it doesn't interest you, that's fine. Cheers, Valfontis (talk) 02:04, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 * P.S. I'm an admin, if something needs protecting or watching, I would do it myself or say so. Sorry I was unclear. Valfontis (talk) 02:04, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Barbara Walker Crossing
I invite project members, especially those familiar with standards for bridges, to help at Barbara Walker Crossing. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:05, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

New state natural area
Just posted Sitka Sedge State Natural Area. It may need pruning--I got lazy and maybe put in too many direct quotes. Sigh. Then I added it to List of Oregon state parks but couldn't translate the coordinates to create the little dot on the map on that page. I appreciate all the help I can get. Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 02:53, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, and anyone on the north coast with a camera and rain gear-- images woul be great! Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 02:55, 22 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't have anything to add, but nice work! Is that a new article so you could nominate it to DYK? Peregrine Fisher (talk) 03:04, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Many thanks to all who jumped in, and especially to and  for the c/e cleanup. I've been diagnosed with an eye disease that leaves blind spots, making proofreading kind of a nightmare, and I'm pleased to have help with that. And yes,, it's a new article and DYK is my next stop. Maybe not tonight. Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 05:30, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * DYK nom done. Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 21:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

From the big O
This article might have some useful tidbits to add to Frank C. Barnes House. YBG (talk) 05:17, 14 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I just want to say that an active editor watches this page. Not sure I'm interested in this particular thing, although it's tangential to the Ramona books, which I am interested in.  Keep up the good work! Peregrine Fisher (talk) 06:03, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

In popular culture links
I know this feature has not had much support since Jimmy Wales ranted about it 15 years ago (namely, how every "In popular culture" section was little more than a compilation of mentions in "Family Guy" or "The Simpsons"), but I was a bit surprised that none of the obvious locations where Grimm or Leverage were used have notes mentioning this. Specifically, I'm thinking about how Kelley Point Park was the setting for at least two episodes of Grimm, maybe three. (Or maybe I'm the only currently active Wikipedian who is a fan of this show.) -- llywrch (talk) 18:17, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * If the setting of the episode was somehow important to the plot, or mentioned by the characters, or mentioned in reliable sources, it may be worth including in the article. By contrast, if the episode just happened to be shot in that park, and the location was essentially a stand-in for "any location next to a river", then mentioning it in the article is probably fan trivia that does not belong in Wikipedia. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:23, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It's all about references. Maybe you could create a well refed sentence in the park article that says "Episodes of X show, Y show, and Z show have been filmed in the park"ref, ref, ref. Peregrine Fisher (talk) 06:06, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The problem will always be with finding acceptable references. (Sometimes Wikipedia rules seem to be more trouble than they are worth.) But there are scenes where anyone who knows Portland will recognize where it was filmed with no doubt. For instance, much of the Leverage episode "The San Lorenzo Job" was clearly shot in the lobby of the Schnitzer; anyone who has been there & seen the episode can confirm that. And I had trouble suspending my disbelief that the final scenes of "The Maltese Falcon Job" really were at Boston Harbor when the West Hills of Portland were visibly in the background. -- llywrch (talk) 17:42, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Oregon Center for Public Policy
AfD: Oregon Center for Public Policy --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:06, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

UO Edit-a-thon request
Franny Gaede, UO librarian, needs some help creating WP accounts for participants in two editathons, one tomorrow! Dates and times: February 20, 4-6pm, and April 16, 4-6pm. Anyone available to help? Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 05:51, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Minor edits suggested for Dallas Oregon page
I noticed today two items on the page for Dallas, Oregon that might want revised. I have neither the ability nor the inclination to make such changes, but I thought I would pass the thought along to those who clearly demonstrate a dedication to how Oregon and communities therein are represented in Wikipedia.

Firstly, the final sentence under the heading for "Gerlinger family" is a fragment, and therefor reads poorly and has an unclear meaning. However, I don't know what the intent of the message was, so I don't know how to make it a complete sentence. But I also did not want to delete the content simply because it is poorly written. It may have value to some reader.

Secondly, the primary photo for the page is a photo of the Polk County Courthouse. I suppose that is acceptable since Dallas is the county seat. Still, it seems that there might be something more specific to the city than that, like maybe a view of downtown (that might include the courthouse), a photo of somewhere in the revered city park along Rickreall Creek, or a view of the city from atop the hills to the south. However, my biggest objection to the specific photo is that it is obvious to anybody familiar with the courthouse that this photo is is at least fifty years old. That does not seem ideal for an initial representation of the city. The main page for Polk County shows a similar view of the courthouse more as it looks today, including the addition that was added back in the seventies or so that is clearly missing in this photo. At a minimum, it seems that the photo from Polk County should replace the one for Dallas. The existing one might be appropriate if labelled as historic, especially if moved to a subordinate position and if a date can be related to it. The building is claimed by some locally to be the second oldest courthouse in Oregon, so some such photo might be appropriate, if not on the Dallas page, then under Polk County or somewhere else in Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.25.237.103 (talk) 02:40, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

Ideas for presenting data about Oregon communities with poor evacuation routes?
A KPTV news article recently pointed to this website which maps communities which have substandard evacuation routes. Here is data from the map:

I feel like maybe this could go in the respective city articles somehow, but don't have much idea of how it should be presented. Any ideas? —EncMstr (talk) 03:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)


 * I think about this when I go to the flat place in our Canada. It seems optimistic to put a tsunami escape route along a 15mi peninsula that never gets over 30 feet high. So.. I guess part of what I feel is missing on the coastal stuff is the "for what purpose". In other words, Astoria's pretty good because the local hill is 600 feet high; it's hard to explain that without going into WP:OR. At least the KPTV article contextualizes it some; it might be worth a sentence, like "it's one of 20 towns that were identified as having.."? and sorry for accidentally rolling back from my phone! tedder (talk) 03:41, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Instead of listing this in each individual article (which would be a bit much), how about an article like Emergency preparedness in Oregon?  Sounder Bruce  04:25, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , Good idea! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:53, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, the wider article has some appeal, but how to sensibly bound that topic? Would exterior fire escapes be part of that?  Maybe toxic spill disaster plans?  Earthquakes?  Asteroid impacts? —EncMstr (talk) 22:38, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Cameron Whitten
I invite editors to review recent changes to Cameron Whitten which is being edited on the subject's behalf. Thanks, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:30, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Ku Klux Klan in Oregon
Ku Klux Klan in Oregon was created recently as part of an educational assignment.

Article improvements and constructive talk page feedback for this new editor are welcome.

Thanks, and stay safe, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:20, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week
Hello there. This is an invitation to join the 50,000 Destubbing Challenge Focus of the Week. £250 (c. $310) is being given away in May, June and July with £20 worth of prizes to give away every week for most articles destubbed. Each week there is a different region of focus, including the week ending July 5th dedicated to the US, though half the prize will still be rewarded for articles on any subject. There's a potential £120 to be won in total for destubbing on any subject or region of your choice. Sign up if you want to contribute at least one of the weeks or support the idea! † Encyclopædius  12:11, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

South Portland
South Portland becomes a thing in a few days. I know Wikipedia's a work in progress and we can sort this out over time, but I think a concerted effort would reduce a lot of confusion. In short, some Southwest Portland addresses are changing to South Portland, marking the first major address restructure since 1931.

I'm hoping project members can help identify:
 * which articles should be moved from Category:Southwest Portland, Oregon to Category:South Portland, Oregon
 * if National Register of Historic Places listings in South Portland, Oregon should be forked out from National Register of Historic Places listings in Southwest Portland, Oregon
 * which Wikipedia articles about neighborhoods should be updated appropriately
 * which Wikipedia templates may need updating

In general, infoboxes (specifically address fields) should be changed as well. Also, perhaps we should create commons:Category:South Portland, Oregon?

Am I missing anything else? Pinging you re: NRHP list specifically, if you're interested.

Thanks, all! Stay safe, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:11, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

National Register of Historic Places

 * As far as the NRHP list goes, there are so few listed properties in the new South Portland (half a dozen or so, I think, it's been a while since I looked) that I anticipated simply renaming the article to National Register of Historic Places listings in Southwest and South Portland, Oregon. I'm not sure forking it is useful, but I could be convinced otherwise. &mdash; Ipoellet (talk) 03:49, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * If splitting of the NRHP list is to be done, then Ipoellet or someone else would need to have a map of the new South Portland borders (there's some description but not yet a map of precise borders included in the South Portland article), and would compare that to locations of NRHP-listed places (which can be seen in an OSM map by clicking on "map of all coordinates" towards the bottom of the NRHP list-article). Extra care is needed about the historic districts, some of which might span the border and would then need to be included into both lists.  One HD is South Portland Historic District, which might or might not be wholly in the new jurisdiction. --Doncram (talk) 06:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Offhand splitting seems reasonable to do, and would help a little bit in developing the South Portland article, which could then briefly say how many NRHP listings are included in its area, and link to the split-off article, presumably National Register of Historic Places listings in South Portland, Oregon. --Doncram (talk) 06:40, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, both, for weighing in here. A map and list of NRHP sites in South Portland would be very helpful. Shall I post a request at WikiProject NRHP? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:28, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Worth noting that the new South addressing zone extends beyond Portland city limits in the Riverdale/Dunthorpe area. The NRHP properties in that area would not be affected by any split of the NRHP list article since they're included here and not on the SW PDX list. Here's the full list of NRHP properties in South and inside city limits:
 * Cardwell–Parrish House, 7543 S Fulton Park Blvd
 * M. Lloyd Frank Estate, 615 S Palatine Hill Rd
 * Jewish Shelter Home, 4133 S Corbett Ave
 * Milton W. Smith House, 3434 S Kelly Ave
 * South Portland Historic District (partial - Doncram correctly observed it is now split between SW and S)
 * To get to this list, I relied on the "map of all coordinates" on the OSM basemap that Doncram mentioned, this official GIS from the city, and the map included in the SPHD article. &mdash; Ipoellet (talk) 02:25, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Portland.png have updated the addresses on National Register of Historic Places listings in Southwest Portland, Oregon and moved the list to National Register of Historic Places listings in South and Southwest Portland, Oregon, but I am still not opposed to splitting the list eventually. I have also updated South addresses at National Register of Historic Places listings in Multnomah County, Oregon. It would be very helpful if someone could come up with an updated version of File:Portland.png, a very general quadrant locator map in use on these lists and others. &mdash; Ipoellet (talk) 19:51, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Neighborhoods

 * Collins View, Portland, Oregon
 * South Waterfront, Portland, Oregon

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 13:28, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Per this source, South Portland "includes roughly 10,000 addresses and properties in the South Waterfront, Collins View and Riverdale neighborhoods, including parts of the Oregon Health and Sciences University campus and Lewis and Clark College." Might get a little confusing around OHSU/L&C... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:05, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Category:South Portland, Oregon
I believe all of the South Portland neighborhood lies within the South Portland 'quadrant'. I've moved Category:South Portland, Portland, Oregon from the Southwest PDX category to the South PDX category. Please let me know if this is incorrect. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:05, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

More pages needing updating...

 * Portland,_Oregon needs to be updated
 * Neighborhoods of Portland, Oregon needs to be updated
 * List of parks in Portland, Oregon needs updating
 * List of community gardens in Portland, Oregon may also need updating

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:16, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

possible articles for creation, may covid edition
I went on a rabbithole. Putting these here in case anyone can help take them out of my brain. tedder (talk) 21:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Benicia Senior Living (runs the doomed Healthcare at Foster Creek)
 * Oregon Office of Emergency Management (does COVID and others; see OEM)
 * Avamere (Laurelhurst Village, Salem Transitional Care, donations to Gov Brown, based in W'Ville; 2014 United States Senate election in Oregon, also Rogue Venture Partners, island in Lake Oswego)
 * [self-revert, sorry for editing your comments]
 * I think the Carl C. Jantzen Estate, aka Jantzen Island, where Avamere's founder Rick Miller lives, is another rabbit hole to fall down. It has an interesting ownership history. --Esprqii (talk) 21:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * [I'll put my draft to ANI aside]
 * I'm curious about the island too, I've always liked all things Jantzen. I swear I've heard some mention of "talking to someone who owns the only island in L.O." in the past few weeks, I just can't remember where. Hmm. tedder (talk) 22:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Trail Blazer legend/gubernatorial loser/Brett Kavanaugh drinking buddy Chris Dudley is in the story too... --Esprqii (talk) 22:17, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Portland Union Station and MAX stations merger
Curious what folks here think regarding a possible merger of the Portland Union Station and Union Station/Northwest 6th & Hoyt and Union Station/Northwest 5th & Glisan stations articles a la Saint Paul Union Depot? --truflip99 (talk) 18:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It doesn't make sense to me. They are two separate buildings, built at two separate times, that serve two separate purposes, on two different city blocks. One is an NRHP property, and the other is not. The Saint Paul Depot appears to be one large, integrated structure. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:58, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I agree. This does not make sense to me either, but thanks for asking here Truflip99. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Having separate articles for stations serving different rail services is not unprecedented, as seen with Grand Central–42nd Street station and Grand Central Terminal. It would be best to have separate articles with appropriate connections listed in the services box.  Sounder Bruce  19:37, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Thanks! --truflip99 (talk) 23:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Good article nominee
I've nominated Statue of Harvey W. Scott for Good article status. Improvements before the article gets picked up for review are welcome. Also, Wikimedia Commons has several images of the statue but they are pretty similar. If anyone happens to visit Mount Tabor Park and wants to take a photograph of the statue from a distance, to show the surrounding area, that'd be helpful. Thanks, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:54, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ditto Frank E. Beach Memorial Fountain -- I've nominated for Good status and improvements are welcome. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:55, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ditto Fountain for Company H --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:12, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

AfD: Adventist Health Portland
Adventist Health Portland has been nominated for deletion. Projects may care to weigh in. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:40, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

AfD: Sarah Iannarone
FYI, Sarah Iannarone has been nominated for deletion. Project members may want to weigh in here. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:20, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

AfD: Bruce Broussard
Another AfD for a Portland mayoral candidate: Articles for deletion/Bruce Broussard (politician) -Pete Forsyth (talk) 22:40, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Geneva's Shear Perfection
I've created a stub for Geneva's Shear Perfection. Unfortunately, the store has closed, so if anyone is able to snap a photo of the shop's exterior soon that'd be super helpful for visual documentation. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:53, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Dick Bogle
Been trying to find a free use photo for this article I just created, no luck, if anyone has one would be appreciated Kingofthedead (talk) 07:48, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for creating the article! I've tweeted to see if anybody owns the rights to a photo. If not, since he is deceased, we would be able to use a photo under fair use. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 20:36, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Independent Publishing Resource Center
Independent Publishing Resource Center has been nominated for deletion. I've worked to expand the page but further improvement (coordinates, anyone?) are welcome. Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 07:12, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Coords added. I've !voted to keep at AfD, although I think notability is borderline given WP:AUD. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 17:36, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks, now I just gotta figure out how to add the map. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:53, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It appears that the map parameter of infobox organization only supports files such as File:Portland State University Campus OR - OpenStreetMap.png rather than the usual location maps. I could add a map image, but I'm not sure how to add a location marker based on the coordinates., can you provide any insight here? – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 18:22, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Infobox organization does not appear to support pushpin maps. I suppose that functionality could be added after a discussion on the template's talk page, or maybe a different infobox is more appropriate for that article. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:00, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

George Floyd protests in Portland, Oregon
I've created a stub for George Floyd protests in Portland, Oregon. Stay safe, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:32, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * There's now a page for all of Oregon: George Floyd protests in Oregon. Improvements welcome! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:12, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I've done a bit of copyediting and marked the page as reviewed. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 17:15, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Thanks! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:16, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm struggling to keep George Floyd protests in Portland, Oregon up to date, mostly because I'm working on many other BLM/protest-related articles as well. Any project members able to help with what's happened over the past few days? --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:12, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Two statues toppled at UO
FYI: https://www.registerguard.com/news/20200613/photos-activists-topple-pioneer-statues-on-university-of-oregon-campus

The Pioneer (Eugene, Oregon) and The Pioneer Mother (Eugene, Oregon)

--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 15:18, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Captain William Clark Monument
--- Another Believer ( Talk ) 23:36, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 * https://www.koin.com/news/protests/u-portland-removes-statue-of-explorer-william-clark/

Engraved brick at Oregon Historical Society
OHS is doing an adopt-a-brick program for the research library and digital vault projects that are currently going on. The cost/donation for a brick is $1000, and it gives you 2 lines, 16 characters each. Does anyone want to chip in to get a brick for Wikipedia or "WikiProject Oregon" or something? ("Aunt Betty, Wikipedia") I kind of like the idea of the legacy it represents for OHS and Wikipedia. I'm willing to toss in quite a bit but nowhere near $1000. tedder (talk) 16:14, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Count me in for a donation! --Esprqii (talk) 01:49, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm in, too! I'd be happy to help spread the word, we should discuss. Do you know the deadline, Ted? It's not clear to me from the page. I'd say to get it going:
 * Find out (or arbitrarily set) a deadline
 * Propose one or more possible "names of the donor" (e.g., "WikiProject Oregon," "Oregon wiki community," "Aunt Betty"
 * Propose one or more possible messages, if there are characters left over
 * Propose a minimum gift amount (which tells us how many people we need to attract)
 * I think if you (or any of us) can put a coherent proposal together, I'd be happy to compile it into a page we could share on social media, and encourage people to pitch in. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 22:55, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

2020 coronavirus pandemic in Oregon
I've forked out 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Oregon from the U.S. article. Stay healthy, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 03:29, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Edward C. Allworth Veterans' Home
I've just posted an article at Edward C. Allworth Veterans' Home, but it needs info about the coronavirus pandemic. Please add and edit as you see fit. Cheers! — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 00:02, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I yanked the history I'd added to the Oregon article and tried to blend the two. It's imperfect but it didn't belong in the Oregon one anyhow. tedder (talk) 01:11, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , many thanks for the improvements! As usual, your work is masterful. — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 03:32, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Portland
I'm a little hesitant to share (I can hear the calls of premature forking already), but I've started a draft about the pandemic's impact on Portland specifically. IMO, this will allow much more detail than a single article about the entire state. The only city-focused article I've seen is 2020 coronavirus pandemic in London, which has been proposed for merge but looks like will be kept. The London page has very little content. I'd like to set a quality standard for other potential city articles, using PDX.

You'll see the Portland draft already has sections for case details, government responses, and economic impact (with subsection devoted to film/performing arts, food service/restaurants, hospitality, sports), as well as sections for impacts on education and religion. This is just a start. There's plenty more to add, and the page is also currently lacking a lead, background, and expanded section on confirmed cases. In other words, I think a standalone article is appropriate.

How can you help? I welcome text additions and source sharing on the talk page, and I'm specifically seeking help with:
 * 1) Expanding the section on sports. I don't know anything about sports but I know there's a lot to add here.
 * 2) Expanding the section on education. There's currently only minimal mention of K–12 school closures, and much more to add, especially re: universities.
 * 3) Incorporating sources posted to the talk page into the article's prose.

These are scary times, but if I must be social distancing and staying at home, I'll put my time to good use documenting this awful pandemic. Care to join?

Stay safe, --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 01:57, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Also, this draft covers a lot of temporary closures. I don't want to keep repeating "as of XXX date", closed "through XXX date", announced on "XXX date" they'd whatever until "XXX date", etc., but I also don't know when these dates may be important to note. Assistance with 'time stamping' these many claims appropriately would be helpful, with Summary style in mind. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:32, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I was bold and went live: 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Portland, Oregon --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I've collected a bunch of sources at Talk: 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Portland, Oregon, separated by topic. Anyone interested in selecting a topic of interest and seeing if the references can be incorporated into the article's text? If you participate, please share updates on the talk page so we can archive completed tasks.

Happy editing and stay safe, -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:51, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Clyde Common, R.I.P. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 00:40, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Restaurant closures
Lots of restaurant closures. :( I'm working to update List of restaurants in Portland, Oregon and Template:Restaurants in Portland, Oregon. So far:
 * Clyde Common
 * Nel Centro
 * Pok Pok
 * Wong's King

Heartbreaking... --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:09, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

+ Irving Street Kitchen --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:41, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

+ Le Bistro Montage (source) --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:49, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sad about this one :( --truflip99 (talk) 21:01, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

+ Bluehour --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 05:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

UO Knight Library
Cleanup of vandalism underway at Knight Library. See sad photos here. — Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 19:05, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Civil War no more
We're going to have a lot of cleaning up to do with the news that Oregon and Oregon State won't be using the term Civil War anymore. Stay tuned on what the new name will be. (Hello Platypus Bowl)? --Esprqii (talk) 18:59, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Love the Platypus reference. Thanks for the note. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 02:38, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Ron Herndon
I was surprised to find we have no bio for Ron Herndon (sometimes referred to as "Ronnie"), a decades-long minority rights advocate in Portland. Planning to get started on it shortly. Here's a starting point, if it piques anybody's interest: https://oregonhistoryproject.org/articles/biographies/ron-herndon-biography/ -Pete Forsyth (talk) 02:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)