Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Star Wars/Archive 12

Multiple drafts for Han Solo solo
I thought I should notify people that there are two drafts for the Han Solo Anthology film: Draft:Star Wars Anthology: Untitled Han Solo film and Draft:Untitled Han Solo Anthology film. The pages are largely identical, and it's not really necessary to have more than one. However, I'm not in a position to merge the pages, due to being currently restricted to mobile, making such a task immensely difficult. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  01:18, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


 * , thanks for posting this! I was searching for drafts. Filming started today, so we need to go ahead with merging and moving into the mainspace. Pinging editors of these drafts:, , , . Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 17:06, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * has cleaned up and moved the second one to mainspace, so I've redirected the first to mainspace. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  21:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Whoops. Sorry about that. Some content from the one I didn't request the move should probably merge to the new mainspace article. Also, I'll request a WP:HISTMERGE as well. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 21:11, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * performed the move so perhaps they would be kind enough to perform the history merge too with https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Star_Wars_Anthology:_Untitled_Han_Solo_film&redirect=no? If content has been used interchangeably then this will cover any potential licensing issues. Betty Logan (talk) 21:37, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I did so because it was requested. I had no idea there are two drafts. That said, rejected the request because of WP:PV by now. Best way to handle it would probably be to move it to a subpage of the Talk page and link to it from there for attribution. Regards  So  Why  11:35, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , I've moved the page history to a sub-page and have linked to it as a soft redirect. Does this work? I haven't dealt with parallel versions before (ones that couldn't be merged, anyway). Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 12:19, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I have to admit that I'm also a newbie when it comes to such matters but that seems to be the accepted way to do it per WP:PV. I have protected said subpage to prevent accidental restorations of the draft's content to the main space since there is no reason to edit this page anymore. Any required text can be copied, with attribution, to the new main article. Pinging for another opinion by an experienced page history merger. Regards  So  Why  13:19, 31 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Talk:Untitled Han Solo Anthology film/parallel version draft and Untitled Han Solo Anthology film are thoroughly WP:Parallel histories; forget any idea of history-merging them. If anything, they could be text-merged, and put history information sections in their talk pages. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:27, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * , I got that. Can you review Talk:Untitled Han Solo Anthology film? There is a notice template there linking to a draft (now a sub-page), which is treated as a soft redirect. Does that setup work, or do you suggest changes? Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 15:02, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I have reverted Talk:Untitled Han Solo Anthology film/parallel version draft to text: people had got in a muddle moving it and redirecting it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:32, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Good idea. But maybe we need a different template than draft article to clarify that this is not to be worked on anymore? Is there a PV-draft or something, i. e. a template that basically says "This page was moved here per WP:PV, don't edit it"? As someone who works with such cases a lot, do you think such a template could be useful? Regards  So  Why  16:54, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Copy from Talk:Untitled Han Solo Anthology film/parallel version draft to Untitled Han Solo film all information that is not already in Untitled Han Solo film, and then Talk:Untitled Han Solo Anthology film/parallel version draft can be redirected or deleted. (At 17:05, 31 January 2017‎ Erik moved Untitled Han Solo Anthology film to Untitled Han Solo film.) I have put a "do not edit this page any more" tag at the start of Talk:Untitled Han Solo Anthology film/parallel version draft. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:36, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Everything should already have been copied over from the parallel version to the current mainspace article. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:04, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Forthcoming film dates
I just reverted the addition of forthcoming film dates to Star Wars before I noticed that The Last Jedi has been placed in Category:2017 films and the untitled Han Solo film is in Category:2018 films. The TV and Book WikiProjects follow WP:CRYSTAL pretty strictly, mentioning upcoming release dates in articles but (in my experience) not categorizing works as "2017 British drama series" or "2018 American novels" until they have premiered or been published. It is also commonplace to use "upcoming" or "forthcoming" in related navigation templates. I'm not sure if this Project or the Film Project are a little more relaxed on this issue, or if the Star Wars fanboys are just pushing the envelope (you know how excited we get LOL). Anyway, I wanted to bring this up and see if we already have some consensus on this kind of thing. Thanks.— TAnthonyTalk 16:09, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * There is a discussion from a few years ago where a few editors including myself supported including the release year: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Archive 54. I don't think we need to shy away from release years because they are verifiable, not to mention worthy of note. "Forthcoming" is unnecessarily vague. Wikipedia is flexible enough to dynamically update information as long as it is verifiable. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 16:27, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Help requested for MOS for fiction
There are currently two threads at WT:COMICS, the first at WT:COMICS and the latter and more active one at WT:COMICS, regarding how to deal with characters who have made significant appearances and received significant development in multiple media. So far as I can tell, this project, and maybe the related WikiProject Disney, might have people who are among the most knowledgable about how to structure articles about characters who may have received significant development in multiple media, issues regarding titling of articles, etc. Any input any of you might be able to offer which could be used in maybe developing a good MOS for fiction, which could deal with the current issues and similar ones, would be very welcome. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 02:02, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Draft:Nute Gunray (Star Wars)
I came across Draft:Nute Gunray (Star Wars) at AfC and the article needs some additional sourcing to justify inclusion as an individual page. I'm not really all that interested in doing it myself (mostly because of time constraints due to school), but I figured that I'd be doing the article a disservice if I didn't at least mention it here, in the hopes that there would be someone more interested. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  08:32, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Plot expansion of Star Wars: The Clone Wars
Hello. I was reading over the few separate articles that exist for individual episodes, and decided soe plot expansion would be beneficial. Before I do so, however, I want to ask what is the appropriate ideal amount of text for plot summaries? Also, if it is within the scope of policies and procedures (particularly WP:OR) to be filling in plot summaries with what I've watched. I understand that own personal interjections, or observations are not allowed, but I just want to make sure it's alright before I start doing so. Boomer VialHolla! We gonna ball! 23:25, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * If you're referring to the 2008 series, it's my opinion that the plot section is already too big. Generally, it's okay to summarize based on what's visibly apparent on screen. But, generally, I'd look at WP:TVPLOT for guidelines, but it's my opinion, especially because there's a separate episode list, that the plot section for that article is already too long and actually needs to be shortened. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  23:36, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, I meant individual episode articles, such as The Gathering (Star Wars: The Clone Wars). Would the same standard of policies apply, then? Boomer VialHolla! We gonna ball! 00:01, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, I misunderstood. I would still look at TVPLOT. Since they're only thirty minutes they'll be on the shorter side, a couple of hundred words each, unless it's particularly complex. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  01:40, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I've recently binge-watched all six seasons, and it can get that way at points. Especially when multiple lines are followed, and multiple developments in the plot contribute to the overall plot of the episode. Thanks for the help, nonetheless! :) Boomer VialHolla! We gonna ball! 03:31, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Source inadvertently lists "sarlacc" and "jedi" as character names -- what to do?
I'm in a quandry over how to fix the wording of Han (trilobite), which includes the words Other taxa named after Star Wars characters include [...] the trapdoor spider Aptostichus sarlacc, [...] the ant Tetramorium jedi.

I know we don't have to take the source, which includes these in a long list of names taken from fictional "characters", at its word when this is clearly just a mistake, but I really don't want to change it to say something more abstract (and irrelevant to most of the genuine character names listed) like Other taxa named after Star Wars concepts.

What to do?

Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 06:13, 16 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Technically a sarlacc and a Jedi are fictional characters, from the perspective that they are invented creatures/people that are depicted in creative works. The term doesn't have to apply solely to named individuals like Luke Skywalker. But I agree that the phrasing in Han (trilobite) feels wrong, so I think it would be fine to clarify with Other taxa named after Star Wars characters and concepts. I wouldn't worry too much about "contradicting" the source, which seems a little self-published to me anyway.— TAnthonyTalk 14:54, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It's worth noting the source does say the sarlaac is a create and implies Jedi are a group, rather than a singular character in the individual entries. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  15:09, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Would a character classify as a concept? I figured concepts are limited to weaponry, flora and fauna, locations, planets, etc. Boomer VialHolla! We gonna ball! 03:04, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Started up two related drafts
Still feeling a high off Celebration, so I ended up starting two SW drafts: Draft:Bo-Katan Kryze and Draft:Star Wars Forces of Destiny. The latter is in terrible shape right now—it's late and I really shouldn't be starting drafts right now—and it won't build the steam for a standalone until the first episode is released, I reckon, but I wanted to get it started before I lose the motivation. And then to have everything readily available for when a standalone can... stand alone. Seeing that Forces of Destiny is a new series, it's what I'm more interested in building in general, seeing as it's more likely to be generating the most interest out of the two. Just noting it because I'm a firm believer in making people aware that stuff is A Thing™. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  05:09, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * If that Forces of Destiny article is in terrible shape, I cannot wait to see how awesome it will be when you think it's ready for the public. Yes, it's a stub, but we only know a stub's worth of info at the moment. Frankly, it looks great. oknazevad (talk) 10:44, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Star Wars: Forces of Destiny
I've noticed it's been added under TV credits on Ridley's article and Felicity Jones, but I thought it was just a web series. Govvy (talk) 19:48, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Rancho Obi-Wan
Is this museum notable? I am surprised we don't have an entry for it; we do have one for its founder, Steve Sansweet, but I don't think he is notable - I found and  but generally sources mention him in connection to his museum, not the other way around. I think his article should be redirected to the museum one, but as we don't have it... delete it or wait? Or maybe someone can stub the museum, saving us the hard choice in a constructive way? :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:11, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Star Wars at GAR
A GAR was opened up for Star Wars a month ago, and it's starting to garner comments. Lately, the article has been having issues with structure, length, disputes over the best way to summarize the elements. Due to the importance of the article, and some budding disagreement about the best way to address its issues, more eyes would be appreciated. The GAR is at Good article reassessment/Star Wars/1. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  19:02, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Forces of Destiny updates
Star Wars Forces of Destiny started published, so the article is getting updated. It's gotten some reviews already, so I think it passes notability. Additionally, I've posted a question about the series, asking for clarification on whether or not it's should be termed a multimedia project on the talk page, but it hasn't garnered any responses. Just a small update on the article, and a blip for the discussion, if interested. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  00:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Overhaul of List of changes in Star Wars re-releases
I've been thinking about doing a revamp for List of changes in Star Wars re-releases for a while because... well, just look a the damn thing. (It has repeated section headings! It's a poster child for WP:FANCRUFT violation! It's almost completely unreferenced! There's no couching of the information in its real-world value!) Anyway, I've finally gotten around to some robust idea of what I have in mind in a draft in my userspace. It's not in working order, but that's the idea of it. Though I'm sure it's an improvement, I'm generally unsure if this is the right direction to be going in.

Additionally, I am worried because most of the sources I have are less than five years old. Does anyone know of any older sources that would be useful, especially sources contemporaneous with the 1997 release and especially print sources?

Additionally additionally, I'm... admittedly not over well-versed with the changes, because I don't care about them. (Helpful, I guess, when it comes to excising material.) So while I'm sure I could find the most significant changes because they'll be mentioned in third-party sources, it may be of use to know if I've missed any currently not listed on the draft so that I could keep an eye out for sources. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  20:32, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
 * After two months, I've implemented much of the major overhaul to the article. It's still under construction, but I believe it is in better shape than before. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  19:08, 20 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey there, the article looks great! — TAnthonyTalk 19:39, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Discussion of Star Wars split
There has a discussion about splitting the Star Wars article. The discussion is... a bit all over, but it seems to be meant to be at Talk:Star Wars. There has been very few comments regarding the proposal to split, and additional comments would be appreciated. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  18:00, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The article is undergoing some discussed splitting and moving of content across articles, though some elements are still under discussion. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  16:40, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Star Wars expanded universe rename?
I've opened discussion at Talk:Star Wars expanded universe. There have been ongoing discussions about the possible confusion between "Star Wars expanded universe" and "Star Wars Expanded Universe", and a rename may also be in order due to the article's evolved scope.— TAnthonyTalk 17:17, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Jabba and Palpatine
So, more than 10 years ago now Jabba the Hutt and Palpatine were promoted to FA status. The promoted Jabba article actually used a spoiler warning and damn if that doesn't take me back to younger days; but it should highlight that Wikipedia's changed much in the meantime, and the output of Star Wars media hasn't exactly slowed since. My personal focus is on Palpatine here, but Jabba also has some similar problems that I might bring up with completeness. I've been planning to nominate the Emperor for a FA review for a bit now, but I've been hesitant because, partly, it's hard to know where to start (and partly because I didn't just want to spring it without warning, since I really would like to see the article in as best a shape as possible). This isn't necessarily because the problems are uncountably myriad, but Palpatine is honestly a relatively 'Big' topic to broach, both from a Star Wars perspective and really just from a general cultural look. I do still intend to bring this up on FAR soon enough, but I thought it might be worth bringing the issues up here first.

Some of my problems are relatively minor (the infobox's cluttered, and that's really a wider talk we could have here); some of my problems are bigger but could be solved relatively easy with some copy-editing or more drastic rewriting (I think the prequel trilogy section looks a bit odd); then there are problems that either require more work or might need some discussion about. As far as Star Wars media goes, Palpatine has appeared heavily enough, both in incidental appearances and more major ones, that we don't really need to summarise or even mention every single one. It'd be an exercise in futility and despair. But there are still gaps there worth filling in: there is no mention of Palpatine in gaming, and while many of those appearances are fairly shallow, they're probably worth giving a nod to; the descriptions of Palpatine's post-Lucas appearances are still sparse; the Legends' literature section has only minorly changed since 2006, and I'm left wondering if there's anything noteworthy to add. (Conversely, I wonder if the info on his appearance in the 2003 Clone Wars should be cut down a bit, or its image removed.)

Maybe most importantly to talk about is the "In popular culture" section. Given its contents, you could argue that it's more of a "Cultural impact" section, but semantics. What concerns me is that its contents feel, well, shallow. The section has only gotten smaller since 2006, and for a character like Palpatine, there really should be more in-depth sources that analyse and talk about the character. Currently the article lists, essentially, two instances of Palpatine being referenced, and one FOX editorial briefly mentioning the comparisons he's been involved with. I know the historical comparisons blend in with the Characteristics section, but there stands a lot more that could be said about Palpatine's reception, about his standing as an icon, etc. It really strikes me as a major gap. The section flirts with some mentioning of academia, but. again, it sources exactly one article. I expect there's likely more you could say about his appearances in merchandising, too. Now, I know my problems with the article probably aren't unshared, nor are they particularly insightful or shocking; but we do need to deal with these, at least if there'll be any hope in improving the article or ever recovering/maintaining its FA status. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 04:46, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Regarding inboxes, I agree about them being cluttered, and this is largely due to the insistence on cramming in every single voice actor to portray characters in every radio drama, video game appearance, etc.; I would much prefer to limit the infobox to details of canon appearances only, other stuff can surely be kept for the article body. Does the Palpatine infobox (which, remember, is only there to summarise key information) really need an exhaustive list of ten voice actors and what media they appeared in, including Lego Star Wars and "read along storybook CDs"? Jellyman (talk) 22:32, 26 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Agreed, though I might go a bit further. An infobox is meant to contain key information, vital to the subject, and not much else. It is not meant to be a comprehensive list of every single voiced appearance a character has made. The most extreme solution would be to limit the infoboxes only to portrayals in the core live-action films: the reader needs to know, at a cursory glance, that Mark Hamill played Luke Skywalker, that Ian McDiarmid played Palpatine; that Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christensen played Anakin in the prequels, and that in the original trilogy Vader was a strange compilation of David Prowse, Bob Anderson and James Earl Jones. They don't need to know Scott Cleverdon played Obi-Wan in two video game tie-ins, or that Helen Sadler voiced Rey in one of the Lego Star Wars shorts -- including this only serves to obfuscate and distract (and make the infobox an unreadable blob of text). A lot of these appearances aren't even, and shouldn't be, mentioned in the body; they're simply trivial information.
 * That said, there are other Star Wars media who really probably are worth noting, if we can manage to include them without slippering into an endless slope. The Clone Wars is unquestionably notable, and Rebels essentially follows from its lead; likely it would be worth including Matt Lanter and James Arnold Taylor, for instance. But what other works we might want to list might be worthy of some discussion. I wouldn't want to do it on the basis of canonicity, at least. It may provide a warped view of things, and essentially feels like kicking the can down the road. Incidental canonical video game and online shorts aren't going to disappear. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 05:54, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

The Film Chart at Star Wars
There is currently a discussion on how to organize the film chart at the Star Wars main article. See the discussion at Talk:Star Wars ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  16:12, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Nav templates at TfD
Several navigation templates are at Templates for Discussion. See Templates for discussion/Log/2017 December 13. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  14:27, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
 * These include all 11 templates for the individual films. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:05, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

Palpatine
is having its Featured Article status reviewed at Featured article review/Palpatine/archive1 Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:14, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Articles for Chirrut and Baze?
Recently I noticed while perusing the Rogue One article that Chirrut Imwe and Baze Malbus both do not have articles, but the other main characters such as Jyn, Cassian, K2SO, Bodhi, Krennic, and Saw do. I wanted to get started on making their articles rightway and was encouraged to visit here first to establish a consensus as to whether they are necessary. Considering the popularity of those two characters (and the fact that even Bodhi has an article?), I think it would be appropriate. TheGreatClockwyrm (talk) 15:55, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It does strike me as a notable omission, at least as things stand. It might be that we should have a talk about whether all these other characters deserve an article; I'm more inclined to give some more benefit of the doubt to the former, but neither Krennic's article or Bodhi's really do much to establish notability. They're not completely devoid of sources or anything, but it's largely just a few interviews with actors during the film's release.
 * Now, Chirrut especially I do remember receiving more attention. I think it might be worth looking to see if he could hold an article, though I haven't really dug into it. Since the characters are presented as something of a duo and were developed as sort of contrasts to each other, I might suggest a combo article, Chirrut Imwe and Baze Malbus or the like. I dunno. It depends on how whatever sources break down, really; if they talk about them both together or if they just focus on one of them alone. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 17:17, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Ribbon substitute for barnstar
I've been creating ribbon substitutes for barnstars to pass the time, and made this one for this WikiProject's barnstar, what do you think? - ZLEA  Talk Contribs 20:50, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion
Talk:Star Wars (album) In ictu oculi (talk) 11:17, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

List of Star Wars characters splits
There is currently a discussion about a challenged split of List of Star Wars characters into multiple smaller articles based on individual Star Wars films and works, which involved the creation of eleven new articles. Currently, it is felt that the list is too long, especially after many past discussions to address this have gone unimplemented, and does not meet guidelines. However, it is also felt that the split structure is not effective and fails to improve. There is also a discussion about notability as it applies to character lists, whether all characters listed must meet a full threshold of notability expected for standalone articles or if there is a lesser threshold for inclusion on lists. Please see the discussion at Talk:List of Star Wars characters ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  23:15, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion at List of changes in Star Wars re-releases
A discussion proposing List of changes in Star Wars re-releases be moved to Changes in Star Wars re-releases was opened: Talk:List of changes in Star Wars re-releases. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  22:04, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Move discussion at Talk:Star Wars expanded universe
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Star Wars expanded universe proposing that Star Wars expanded universe be moved to Star Wars Legends ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  13:26, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

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Solo spinoff: a space western?
I still don't know why, but user Oknazevad wants the film Solo: A Star Wars Story to be considered as a "space western" instead of a "space opera" film. He reverted an edit of mine and asked for a discussion in the talk page. So I started the discussion: please, over there. Do not hesitate to share your opinions. Thank you in advance. Regards. Kintaro (talk) 15:11, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Template talk:Star Wars#Anthology vs Story
I've opened a discussion at Template talk:Star Wars regarding an attempt to change the classification of the spin-off films from "Anthology" to "Story". Thanks.— TAnthonyTalk 14:14, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Star Wars split discussion
There is a discussion at Talk:Star Wars about splitting coverage of the film series at Star Wars to a different article. The discussion is also generally covering how best to perform cleanup at the article, including how to handle tables and the length of the page. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  20:57, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Battle droid (2nd nomination)
Deletion page. Battle droid. Randy Kryn (talk) 23:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

Featured quality source review RFC
Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. --IznoRepeat (talk) 21:49, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

List of Star Wars books
There is a suggestion to split the list at talk:List of Star Wars books -- 70.51.201.106 (talk) 02:58, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Darth Nihilus (3rd nomination)
Wasn't sure if there was an AfD delete section for this project, just thought I post here to let those contributors know of this AfD. Govvy (talk) 00:11, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Return of the Jedi GA reassessment
Return of the Jedi is being reassessed and the concerns are as-yet unaddressed, for those who are interested in attempting to bring it back to GA quality.  Dark Knight  2149  19:32, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!
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Saw Gerrera Wiki has a funky mistake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_Gerrera

There is a sentence written that makes it sound as if Jyn's father IS the adopted father/mentor. It's just a weird placement structure that could be cleaned up. Here is the example:  In Rogue One, Saw is a close friend of Galen Erso, the foster parent and mentor in military combat of Jyn Erso,

It's description is off and kinda funky... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.117.219.4 (talk) 01:34, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Original novelizations
Until recently, the novelizations for the original and prequel trilogies were designated as Legends in Template:Star Wars Legends novels and List of Star Wars books. This is basically the result of this 2016 discussion on the topic. I have yet to find the talk page comment or edit summary that brought this canonicity issue to my attention, but there is consensus in the archived discussion that the works are Legends. Not mentioned were the "new" young reader novelizations of the original series (A New Hope: The Princess, the Scoundrel, and the Farm Boy, The Empire Strikes Back: So You Want to Be a Jedi?, and Return of the Jedi: Beware the Power of the Dark Side!) released in 2015. In any case, I just reverted edits to Template:Star Wars Legends novels and Template:Star Wars canon novels that establish these works as part of the new continuity. Thanks.— TAnthonyTalk 04:45, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Proposed move of Bespin to Cloud City (Star Wars)
Please note a proposal I made on the Bespin talk page (hopefully I used the template right) to move the page Bespin to Cloud City (Star Wars). I explained my thoughts on the matter there, and would welcome any additional dialogue or opinions. Thanks! — Hunter Kahn 20:15, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Star Wars list articles up for deletion
A lot of other articles were merged into these previously. I figured this is a Wikiproject that would be interested in this sort of thing. You don't seem to have any area to show articles up for deletion though. Not sure if any of you guys are still even here or not.  D r e a m Focus  23:57, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * List of Star Wars spacecraft
 * List of Star Wars starfighters
 * List of Star Wars air, aquatic, and ground vehicles

Rose Tico "Portrayed by" and "Voiced by" infobox fields
Seeking opinions for a WP:CONSENSUS at this discussion at the Rose Tico page, which I've recently expanded and nominated for GA. The issue at hand is whether the actress' name is needed in the "Voiced by" field of the character infobox in addition to the "Portrayed by" field. This is a live-action performance so the "Voiced by" field was not originally filled in, but an IP user keeps re-adding it. — Hunter Kahn</b> 12:04, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Jabba the Hutt article on WP:FAR
Jabba the Hutt is an article on the featured article review, please give your comments hereTHeNEMBI (talk) 19:55, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

First Order (Star Wars) is nominated for deletion
This is probably of interest to this project, and I don't know how or if there are Article Alerts for this group, so I thought it should be notified. I am not canvassing. The First Order (Star Wars) article has been nominated for deletion. You are free to discuss this at its entry on the Articles for deletion page. Alaney2k (talk) 18:57, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Star Wars
Portal:Star Wars, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Star Wars (2nd nomination) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Star Wars during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Guilherme Burn (talk) 14:16, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Billy Dee Williams vandalism
Hi, just wanted to alert that someone |keeps vandalizing the Billy Dee Williams article recently by removing a whole section. Is there a way to protect the article or manage this problem or something? Thanks. BD-1MS (talk) 11:57, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I've put in a request for page protection at WP:RFP. — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hun</b><b style="color:#C0C0C0">ter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Ka</b><b style="color:#595454">hn</b> 12:46, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Notice
Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. &#8211; MJL &thinsp;‐Talk‐☖ 19:31, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Banthas and Bib Fortunas
Hey all. I've just nominated Bantha for good article, if anyone is interested in reviewing it. I've also previously nominated Bib Fortuna and that remains unreviewed as well. Thanks! — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 19:45, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Talk:The_Mandalorian
Incase you didn't know, there's a very long discussion going on at Talk:The Mandalorian you may enjoy. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:19, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

More opinions requested at Talk:Jacen Solo
I opened the above-mentioned discussion and it would be great if some uninvolved editors could provide some feedback there. Regards So  Why  19:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Character categories
So, semi-recently was diffused into a fair few categories. Not a move I'm opposed to, given the amount of coverage Star Wars receives both on and outside of Wikipedia. (I think, depending on what you count, there's near-100 character articles. There's a lot, even if we had a severe pruning.) That said, I wanted to bring up the way the categories had been split.

The characters have been divided into categories by the medium in which they appear (comics, film, etc.), and on the surface this is a solid out-of-universe way of categorising them in a way useful to readers. The problem with this approach, though, is a little clear if you look at the contents of, as examples, and. Star Wars is a big multimedia franchise, and if you appear in a film and are notable enough to get a Wikipedia article, you probably appear in a few books, comics, and the odds are even you've appeared in a video game. So, as implemented, the categories end up pretty indistinct, and the value of dividing the characters such loses its appeal.

The most obvious solution I can suggest is limiting each category to a character's debut. I.e. Luke is a film character; Doctor Aphra is a comics character; Thrawn is a literary character. This approach does have its downsides, though, and is part of the reason why I haven't just boldly gone ahead, requested a bunch of moves and started editing a bunch of characters (aside from me generally being a little lazy). Some characters have notable appearances in mediums they don't originate in; Thrawn's one example, and if we want to get technical Ahsoka Tano debuted in a theatrically released film.

Realistically, for the sake of characters like Boba Fett (television special), Jyn Erso (tie-in novel) and Saw Gerrera (animated series), I would probably suggest the film characters category be left as-is were we to take this route, as I believe readers would be best served by easily finding Star Wars characters with cinematic appearances. – The Millionth One (talk) (contribs) 07:17, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Mandalorian character GANs
Hey all. I've nominated multiple character articles from The Mandalorian for good article, including Cara Dune, IG-11, Kuiil, Greef Karga, Moff Gideon, The Client, The Armorer, and Paz Vizla. I ultimately hope to establish a good topic for the show's characters, hence the large number of GANs. I feel bad about the backlog I've helped create there, however, so if anyone is able to review one of two of these, I'd much appreciate it. And I'm not seeking a quick pass or anything, just an honest review if you have the time or inclination. Thanks! (Incidentally, I also previously nominated non-Mandalorian Star Wars characters Bib Fortuna and Bantha, well before I started working on the Mandalorian articles, and those are still floating out there too... — <b style="color:#C0C0C0">Hunter</b> <b style="color:#595454">Kahn</b> 17:03, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Return of the Darksaber (fictional weapon)
Talk:The_Mandalorian. For the interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:19, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

Collaboration of the month
What would folks like to do with Category:Star Wars Collaboration of the month? Delete it, or keep it and populate it with these 10 pages? The status quo, with just one page in the category, seems to be the least best option. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Recently-added extreme amount of plot detail in Lego Star Wars video game articles
The other day I noticed that the Lego Star Wars video game articles all had recently added sections called "Plot". They had all added by anonymous users within the past few months. The articles read perfectly competently, and much more succinctly, before they were added. I therefore feel they should be removed, or at the very least, heavily condensed.

The synopses are all disproportionately large compared to the rest of each article. In fact, the synopsis for each film represented in the games is as large as the synopsis you can find on the article for that respective film! The Complete Saga's plot synopsis also consists almost entirely of paragraphs copied from the Lego Star Wars: The Video Game and Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy articles.

This is not a Lego Star Wars wiki, and so this much detail strikes me as being inappropriate, and inconsistent with typical video game articles on Wikipedia. The information in these sections also seems completely unreferenced.

I took it upon myself to remove them, but this was quickly reverted by another user. I therefore feel it would be best to obtain opinions from other users, and obtain a consensus before any further action can be taken.

The articles I am referring to are the following:

Lego Star Wars: The Video Game

Lego Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy

Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga

Lego Star Wars III: The Clone Wars

Lego Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Zigongosaurus1138 (talk) 22:50, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

Star Wars: Squadrons
Just posting new entry for people to add to their watchlist, I loved the old Tie-Fighter game. Now I am hoping this is a modern version were I can attack the rebel scum!! heh. Govvy (talk) 13:35, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

The Bad Batch
An editor made the Draft:Star Wars : The Bad Batch draft page. However, Draft:Star Wars: The Bad Batch (without an extra space before the colon). Obviously, I can't move the new page, since the old one exists. Morriswa (Charlotte Allison) (talk) 04:23, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Star Wars Art
I would like to suggest creating a page about the artwork involved in creating the Star Wars world, because this world was first visualised as concept and storyboard illustrations. Is anybody interested? An experienced editor would be particularly welcome. NjikecatNjikecat (talk) 02:21, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Draft:The George Lucas Talk Show
Hello everyone! I am quite new to contributing to wikipedia but I have quickly found myself very interested in helping edit and add articles. I would love some feedback or help getting my article for The George Lucas Talk Show published; I decided to focus on the introductory section and having that be accepted for publication before moving on to additional sections. Is that a proper way to go about it, or should I persevere and add more information that may potentially add more reasons for it being declined? Also, I feel I have successfully changed what I needed to after it was initially declined; as this is my first attempt at adding an article, I would appreciate any and all help I can get! Thanks for your time. -mcdougal Mcdave mcdougal (talk) 18:39, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Sith "family tree"?
I'm not sure who's actively watching this talk page but Template:Sith Order master-apprentice relationship was just created and added to multiple Sith-related character articles. This is an unsourced, trivial, and in-universe mess that just illustrates tangential connections between characters and so isn't even an actual "family" tree.— TAnthonyTalk 17:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh. Yeah, I agree this really doesn't need to exist here. Maybe nudge the editor on the template or their user page, or TfD it? --EEMIV (talk) 17:16, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The creator Cassandra872 just sourced the tree and commented that "This page exists because Jedi Order master-apprentice relationship exists." That smaller template was apparently created on 8/27/20 because multiple articles like Jedi and Luke Skywalker used a truncated tree, but I think the problem is that this trivial, in-universe info is not appropriate for a standalone section in each of these articles. It was added to multiple articles on 9/7/2020 by Atvica. I don't find this a convincing precedent that justifies its inclusion. I'd like to hear what others think though. — TAnthonyTalk 22:42, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I need a macro that inserts "What TAnthony said." I'll try to take a closer look (and maybe offer a helpful approach with the articles and editors) later today. --EEMIV (talk) 11:23, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Haha thanks. I think including this material in Jedi can be justified, but not in character articles. Atvica and others have never quite grasped the concept of in-universe.— TAnthonyTalk 14:07, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Star Wars: Battlefront II: Inferno Squad
I recently created Star Wars: Battlefront II: Inferno Squad (Novel), however, I don't know how to make it officially a page under the scope of this Wikiproject. Is there a list of Star Wars Pages that are maintained by WP:Star Wars? Can anyone help? Dswitz10734 (talk) 22:14, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , someone has done this for you now by adding WikiProject Star Wars to the talk page of the article. --Izno (talk) 00:02, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Note that only two articles can be part of the wikiproject at any given time: one to have featured article status, and one to crave it. --EEMIV (talk) 12:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! Dswitz10734 (talk) 13:53, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

The Mandalorian episode pages
It was proposed (November 15) that all individual episode pages of The Mandalorian be merged into the season article. Discuss: Talk:The_Mandalorian

Also nearly all of the Mandalorian episode articles have been marked as High importance. It would be helpful if the articles were objectively evaluated by someone associated with this subproject to give a better idea if some are more important than others. I would guess that season opening, and season finale episodes, are slightly more important than other episodes? Maybe some of the other award winning episodes are important too? (FWIW some awards winning TV shows do seem to have pages for almost every episode, but I rarely understand why editors think articles need to be deleted.) -- 109.76.149.14 (talk) 03:48, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

David Prowse
BBC News is reporting that David Prowse (Darth Vader) has died. Mjroots (talk) 06:11, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The original Boba Fett Jeremy Bulloch (1945 – 2020 R.I.P.) too https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-55358301 as if 2020 wasn't bad enough already. -- 109.78.193.22 (talk) 02:05, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Star Wars spinoffs
Template:Star Wars spinoffs has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. - adamstom97 (talk) 07:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

The Making of Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back : the definitive story.
Hola, I'm working on The Empire Strikes Back, does anyone have this book and if so can they screenshot the pages and send them to me? It'll be helpful. Thanks. Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 12:12, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Happy Star Wars Day!
Enjoy two new articles: Dejarik and Sabacc. --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:35, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Star Wars X-wing
Template:Star Wars X-wing has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 11:50, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Star Wars Jedi Prince series
Template:Star Wars Jedi Prince series has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 19:52, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Jedi Quest series
Template:Jedi Quest series has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page.

Nomination for deletion of Template:New Jedi Order series
Template:New Jedi Order series has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page.

Star Wars Theory
I created an article for the YouTube channel/person Star Wars Theory. It survived a recent AFD. There is some disputed on the talk page whether or not it should list the interviews he did with people involved in the Star Wars franchise. So I'm posting here in this relevant Wikiproject.  D r e a m Focus  12:42, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

The Force's Afterlife section duplication of lines
The section on Afterlife has a similar ending line on 2 paragraphs (paragraph 3 and 4) and I think a copyedit or maybe bring the line down on its own? This might have been discussed before so pardon me if this has been dealt with. It is a duplication of information with an extra interpretation on the first occurrence. I am suggesting to move the first occurrence (on the 3rd paragraph) down to the second occurrence (on the 4th paragraph) and remove the second occurrence.

The line is The scene also got inadvertently compared to the beginning of the movie, which establishes Darth Sidious has the new Force ability of imitating voices in people's heads, by imitating Snoke and Darth Vader in Kylo Ren's head, this led to some viewers to interpret Palpatine was all of the voices, and that the evil character won the final battle of the film. Since the scene inadvertently got compared to the beginning of the movie, which establishes Darth Sidious has the new Force ability of imitating voices in people's heads, when Darth Sidious imitates Snoke and Darth Vader in Kylo Ren's head. with the same sources for these 2 lines.

It kind of throw me back why did I just read the same line again and did I re-read the same paragraph again? Thanks --Justanothersgwikieditor (talk) 09:47, 5 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads-up. I'm pretty protective over that article (twinges of ownership, probably, just to put it out there) and saw that whole wall of text on my way out the door to work and my head kind of spun. I added the undue weight banner, and maybe this weekend I'll take a pass at trying to wrestle it. But, yes, thank you for flagging it here, and please anyone else with a critical eye take a look. --EEMIV (talk) 12:59, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

"List of Star Wars encyclopedic species" has been promoted Good Article... in French!
An article on the French Wikipedia, with no existing version here (that I'm aware of), has recently been promoted "Bon article" (=Good article). Titled "List of Star Wars encyclopedic species" ("Liste des espèces encyclopédiques de Star Wars"), it has been built mostly from sources or English or translated content from this language. This bibliography allowed to list only species fitting into the notability criteria for Wikipedia.

Here is a rough, unstyled, translation from the first paragraph :

"The list of Star Wars encyclopedia species identifies the names and simplified presentations of the major intelligent, animal, and plant species in the film saga and wholly or largely centered on the presentation of species in encyclopedias such as The New Essential Guide to Alien Species (2006) by Ann Margaret Lewis and Helen Keier, Ryder Windham's Ultimate Star Wars (2015), Daniel Wallace and Jason Fry's The Atlas (2016), Tricia Barr, Adam Bray, and Cole Horton's The Visual Encyclopedia (2017), or Katrina Pallant and Nathalie Clubb's Alien archive (2019). Species not present in these encyclopedias, even if considered by some to be important, are excluded from the census."

I don't have time to translate it, nor I have the original English versions of the translated books, but anyone is welcome to be bold and adopt it. :) J. N. Squire (talk) 16:55, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

All the Start Class Articles are Talk?
Hi, I am learning about start class articles for something else (and I always look at your page when I am trying to understand projects. Are Talk pages normally classified? Wakelamp d&#91;@-@&#93;b (talk) 08:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

FA review on Jabba the Hut
I have nominated Jabba the Hut for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. --George Ho (talk) 20:02, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Request for review
Hey, all. I've mostly ignored The Force for a while, but I took a pass at reading and copyediting it this morning. Having (re)written a few years ago the vast majority of the article, I am sensitive to my sense of (and anyone else's sense of) my ownership. So, I'd appreciate if you've got some time just to do a once- or twice-over of my edits, particularly truncating significantly some of the "Force spirit" stuff (which a few months ago I might've actually removed a bigger chunk of, now that I think of it) and some other side assertions that seemed non-NPOV or ORish. Thanks for watching over my shoulder. MTFBWY. --EEMIV (talk) 16:46, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Star Wars Theory Merge and Creation of new list
Hey, I feel Star Wars Theory isn't worthy of its own article. In replacement, we should create an article named List of Star Wars content creators which would include many other people and not only Theory. Let me know what you think. TheCoolestKidHere (talk) 19:29, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I have no opinion on whether Star Wars Theory meets WP:GNG or whatever domain-specific notability guidelines exist for social media content creators. I am viscerally opposed to a List of Star Wars content creators item, which I suspect would rapidly become indiscriminate. For one thing, the title is vague: George Lucas was a Star Wars content creator. So, some clarity in the scope at just a name level is needed. I'm curious as to whether WikiProject:...People Who Do Things on YouTube? has domain-specific criteria for lists such as these. Even so, such a list in the SW space would need to reach consensus on very clear-cut inclusion criteria. Are there existing, mature examples of this kind of list being proposed in other franchises, e.g. List of Star Trek content creators, List of Mass Effect content creators, List of WarHammer 40K content creators, List of Twilight content creators, List of Care Bears content creators, etc.? --EEMIV (talk) 21:14, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Absolutely oppose such a list. There is no reason to create a list of YouTubers and folks on other platforms just because they make Star Wars related commentary. (Content creator is such an awful term imo, by the way. I don't care how common it is in online spaces these days. Just terrible.) At best, it violates WP:NOTDIRECTORY. That topic itself is not notable. I don't have an opinion on Star Wars Theory, but it recently passed an AfD in October 2021, in which it was determined that coverage on the channel provided from reputable sources like Newsweek, The Daily Telegraph, and Variety is sufficient notability. If you haven't already, read the AfD nomination: Articles for deletion/Star Wars Theory. I also recommend reading WP:RENOM and WP:BEFORE. ~Cheers, Ten  Ton  Parasol  21:24, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

I understand. I’ll rethink my opinion. I know my idea sounded very vague, but I just feel it could happen in the future. TheCoolestKidHere (talk) 03:00, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Galactic Starcruiser
Should the new Galactic Starcruiser resort/experience at Disney World get its own article? Or do we need more information on it first? Happy editing, TheCoolestKidHere (talk) 03:02, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 * More information is needed, and I suggest the SW WikiProject endorse my grant request to the Wikimedia Foundation to fund my research trip. Obviously for such a critical topic, we'll set aside the project's proscription against publishing original research. --EEMIV (talk) 14:25, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Thrawn trilogy merges
I was disturbed to discover that the wealth of information in Thrawn trilogy and Heir to the Empire has been lost to readers now that both of those articles redirect to Grand Admiral Thrawn. These were the first and arguably most important novels in the Expanded Universe, and now Wikipedia contains no substantial discussion of the history of the books. I do not see a proper discussion building consensus around the redirects on any of the relevant talk pages (if there was one, please let me know). Because this affects multiple articles, I wanted to bring it up here. I think the redirects should be removed and the articles restored. --Albany NY (talk) 03:36, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Shocked to see the Thrawn Trilogy doesn't have its own article anymore. Given its impact on the franchise (even on the films!) it surely passes GNG. I would support reverting to the version you linked, though we should probably expand the "Reception, sales and influence" to demonstrate why the trilogy is notable (perhaps creating a "legacy" subsection?). — <i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i> 07:40, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Yikes. I suspect Heir could be rewritten to demonstrate GNG -- it just hadn't been and was just niche enough to generally escape wider notice. I'm less certain about the article on Thrawn-prominent books -- you don't have to get much beyond Heir for these to become "just more Star Wars books" (and while the article is titled "Thrawn Trilogy," it's really about all the Thrawn-adjacent books from Legends). I don't think Wikipedia would be super well-served with an Heir article and then some separate "Here are all the Thrawn books" article. I doubt the concept of "The Thrawn Corpus of Literature" has itself garnered enough coverage to meet GNG; if so, it's probably all focused on the Thrawn character, and that would be the best place to add significant content. Anyhow ... if someone takes the first step to resurrect the Heir article, I'll try to find time this weekend to pull sources to help. I just started re-reading it last weekend! Also pinging who made the redirects two years ago. --EEMIV (talk) 11:40, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I certainly don't think there should be more than one article. Other Thrawn books outside of the trilogy are irrelevant. That said, I think it raises a question: should the resurrected article be "Heir to the Empire" or "The Thrawn Trilogy". My understanding is that it's the trilogy at a whole that gets praise for its legacy -- but do the sources say that, or do they focus more on Heir? — <i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i> 13:10, 22 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Star Wars: Thrawn, Thrawn: Alliances, and Thrawn: Treason exist. I have a custom search engine I once made to search sites considered reliable sources for book reviews. https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=000940472126197254432:ojqph5ir04q Here is a nice find https://ew.com/article/2011/09/12/star-wars-heir-to-the-empire-timothy-zahn-tribute/   D r e a m Focus  12:39, 27 October 2021 (UTC)


 * The idea that we have articles on those books but not the Thrawn Trilogy is... bizarre. I don't want to make an WP:OTHERSTUFF argument, but the trilogy has got to pass GNG. — <i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i> 17:30, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I can see how the fact that the old Thrawn Trilogy is no longer canon could lower it's GNG(books), these books may have made significant contributions to legends but no longer apply to what is canon. I have not seen many articles for legend books currently on Wikipedia. I believe in order for this to meet GNG(fiction) there would need to be enough reliable sources saying that it has effected Star Wars. There is also the confusion with the name "Thrawn Trilogy" as the newer canon Trilogy is also referred to by the same name. Dobble stein 🎲 🎲 talk 23:03, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Titling the Skeleton Crew article
When the time comes, are we going with Star Wars: Skeleton Crew or Skeleton Crew (TV series)? I’m really thinking the former--CreecregofLife (talk) 19:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)


 * I say Star Wars: Skeleton Crew as we did the same thing with The Bad Batch. Plus then there would be no need to disambiguate it. ― <b style="background:#000;color:#f07b3a;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Kaleeb18</b>Talk<sub style="position:relative;right:20q;margin-right:-15px;">Caleb 23:01, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank goodness, I was starting to believe there was some sort of unspoken rule, because all the live action series (The Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, Kenobi, and Ahsoka) all have Star Wars-less page titles, while the Disney+ era animated series (so far set by The Bad Batch and Visions) must use them. A bit irrational or nonsensical I know, but it’s the vibe it gave off CreecregofLife (talk) 23:45, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * lol I didn't even realize that. ― <b style="background:#000;color:#f07b3a;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Kaleeb18</b>Talk<sub style="position:relative;right:20q;margin-right:-15px;">Caleb 23:58, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The other live-action Star Wars series don't actually have "Star Wars" in the title so that is why their articles don't have it in their titles either. But it does look like Star Wars: Skeleton Crew is the official title for the new series so the wiki article should reflect that. - adamstom97 (talk) 02:49, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Vanee
Hi, can someone help me with my Vaneé draft from Star Wars? I need independent sources and help with making it in a real world view. It would mean a lot even if you tell me what to do. Draft:Vaneé (Star Wars) Erdan5 (talk) 19:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Here are a few sources I could find. Doesn't look like there is a lot covering Vaneé., , , , ― <b style="background:#000;color:#f07b3a;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Kaleeb18</b>Talk<sub style="position:relative;right:20q;margin-right:-15px;">Caleb 23:07, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
 * How do I source some articles to the TV shows themselves. Like Rogue One and Terrifying Tales and the books. I saw the Lord Voldemort page and it sourced to the actual books themselves Erdan5 (talk) 18:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
 * There are templates you can use such as Template:Cite Book, but primary sources do not help establish notability. ― <b style="background:#000;color:#f07b3a;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Kaleeb18</b>Talk<sub style="position:relative;right:20q;margin-right:-15px;">Caleb 18:23, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

Category:Star Wars: Droids has been nominated for discussion
Category:Star Wars: Droids has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. 64.229.90.199 (talk) 06:15, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I Blitzfan51 have joined and would like to call a roll call
I have just joined the wikiproject star wars and am calling a roll call. i'll Start. I Blitzfan51 am present Blitzfan51 (talk) 00:16, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Republic Commando
I added some links to the Republic Commando article. Blitzfan51 (talk) 00:27, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Rose Tico article
I explained the power baffler in a way that people who didn't read the book Cobalt Squadron could understand. Blitzfan51 (talk) 13:44, 6 March 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
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May the 4th be with you
Happy May the 4th everybody! Blitzfan51 (talk) 18:54, 4 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello! Nice to have someone that loves Star Wars! @Blitzfan51, do you like it? Since I just finished Star Wars: Rebels, I am kinda sad because Kanan Jarrus dies. 209.122.128.147 (talk) 22:26, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I love it, but i'm afraid i must point you to WP:NotForum. basically, we're here to discuss the encyclopedia and how we're building Star Wars articles and not discuss how much we love Star Wars. I do see that you've edited some Star Wars articles. Good Job. Have you considered making a wikipedia account? Blitzfan51 (talk) 00:42, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Star Wars (film)
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Star Wars (film) that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. InfiniteNexus (talk) 18:20, 1 February 2023 (UTC)

Lists of Star Wars characters
I have worked on List of Star Wars characters for a while, and I was responsible for the major structural overhaul that started last fall, moving away from the massive tables to individual character entries reminiscent of the subpages at Characters of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Since then, I have been struggling to figure out exactly what this page should be, because Star Wars is such a massive franchise and I have been unable to find clear inclusion criteria or deal with the backlog of inconsistent redirects. I am wondering if there is any value in clearing the bulk of this page altogether to resemble the aforementioned Marvel page, and renaming it "Lists of Star Wars characters". From here, we would have specific links to lists of characters for specific projects. For starters, some of these types of lists already exist:

List of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic characters

List of Star Wars Legends characters

List of The Mandalorian characters

List of The Book of Boba Fett characters

In addition, List of Star Wars Rebels characters previously existed in mainspace before I boldly emptied it of any useful information and redirected it to the main Star Wars characters page. What if we fully committed to this idea and had lists for major blocks of Star Wars content: original trilogy, prequel trilogy, sequel trilogy, Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch, etc... and if there are projects like Tales of the Jedi, Obi-Wan Kenobi, or Andor that can't really justify their own character pages, these are the ones we can include as part of my proposed "Lists..." page. For ones here, it would largely function as only including those introduced in said projects. It would also eliminate the inconsistent and arbitrary tradition of having a separate droid list at Droid (Star Wars).

Does anybody have any thoughts on this? I would love your feedback. TNstingray (talk) 20:37, 13 March 2023 (UTC)


 * yes. i think we should separate the lists into different star wars media instead of just one big star wars character list. This would make it more navigable. Blitzfan51 (talk) 16:41, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It definitely would. I would like to hear more feedback, but the lists could essentially be as follows:
 * Lists of Star Wars characters --> renamed central hub, would also contain characters introduced in projects before they have a justified separate list, such as Obi-Wan Kenobi or Solo
 * List of Star Wars original trilogy characters --> A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi
 * List of Star Wars prequel trilogy characters --> Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith
 * List of Star Wars sequel trilogy characters --> Force Awakens, Last Jedi, Rise of Skywalker
 * List of characters in animated Star Wars media --> Clone Wars, Rebels, Bad Batch, Tales of the Jedi (this could maybe be broken down, but there is a lot of overlap)
 * List of Rogue One and Andor characters --> there is overlap here too
 * keep Mandalorian and Boba Fett lists
 * Thoughts? TNstingray (talk) 14:44, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I think this is a pretty good idea, but as you said, lots of overlap. We could combine some such as Andor with Rogue One and Boba Fett with The Mandalorian to help. We might just have to let some overlap go. Also, no one answers roll calls in this project. Is that normal? Blitzfan51 (talk) 14:57, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * We'll have to see what others think.
 * I haven't been a member of this WikiProject for very long, but I don't think roll calls are very common across the board on Wikipedia. I think the Participants list fulfills that purpose, as people just listing their usernames every month seems to be a waste of time and space. TNstingray (talk) 17:25, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
 * If anybody wishes to help with these, I have created some drafts here:
 * Draft:List of Star Wars original trilogy characters
 * Draft:List of Star Wars prequel trilogy characters
 * Draft:List of Star Wars sequel trilogy characters
 * Draft:List of Rogue One and Andor characters
 * Draft:List of Star Wars: The Clone Wars characters
 * We can at least see how it goes. TNstingray (talk) 12:31, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Plus: Draft:List of Star Wars Rebels characters
 * TNstingray (talk) 14:24, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Suggestion
Hello

I was looking for articles on some Star Wars battles and realised that there weren’t any. I think articles should be created on the major Star Wars battles. Battle of Yavin is a must. Thoughts on this idea? Anyone willing to carry the torch? CanadianSingh1469 (talk) 03:58, 30 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hey there, thanks for the comment. I'm sure you already know about the Wookieepedia article on the Battle of Yavin, but Wikipedia has stronger notability guidelines, and unfortunately any expanded coverage of fictional Star Wars battles is unlikely to meet the requirements. Battle of Yavin redirects to Yavin, and the overview of the battle there seems adequate to me. What would you say is essential but missing?— TAnthonyTalk 14:49, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Star Wars: Ahsoka
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Star Wars: Ahsoka that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 2pou (talk) 17:31, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Draft:List of Star Wars Rebels characters
This is a six year old article that shouldn't have been moved to Draft space but it has been recently edited to delay CSD G13 speedy deletion. But I thought I'd make you all aware of it so it doesn't get in danger of G13 deletion again in the spring. But please do not move older articles to Draft space where they are usually forgotten about and eventually deleted. Articles put there are mostly unseen and draftification is just a slow road to deletion for most of them. It's not a "safe space" to house articles unless they are being actively worked on. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 18:23, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Aurra Sing
This was a poor plot summary turned into redirect w/ out discussion back in 2008 but sources at pl:Aurra Sing suggest this could be a notable charactger, if anyone cares to work on that. @Daranios @Siroxo... <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 02:24, 12 November 2023 (UTC)