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Fellows and categories
Every college has a category for its fellows, e.g., Category:Fellows of Jesus College, Oxford. This conversation made me wonder who is eligible for inclusion in these categories: Anyone with "fellow" in their title, including honorary, supernumerary and junior research fellows? Or rather anyone on the governing body of the respective college (which would probably be closer to most people's intuitive understanding)? An explanation of the different types of fellowships here. Best, Caius G. (talk) 18:58, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Caius G., taking Univ as an example in my opinion all fellows should be included, except honorary and foundation fellows. The idea is to classify Category:Academics of the University of Oxford by college affiliation as far as possible. Honorary and foundation fellows are generally not academics. Obviously junior research fellows will rarely be notable for their work as a JRF alone. TSventon (talk) 02:10, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , that makes sense! Thank you for clarifying. At the risk of overcomplicating things: Do lecturers count? And how would we deal with stipendiary lecturers, who just teach at (often more than one) college? Just add their primary affiliation (i.e. the college at which they are not-stipendiary lecturer)? Caius G. (talk) 20:49, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Caius G., only fellows count, so if a lecturer is not a fellow then they can be classified as academics of the University of Oxford. Apparently there were formerly categories for honorary fellows, but they were listified, e.g. List of Honorary Fellows of Magdalen College, Oxford. TSventon (talk) 21:21, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, thanks! 15 (talk) 17:13, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Oriel College, Oxford Featured article review
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Ruskin College
Could people closer to the action look at this article, Ruskin College. Recent edits are saying that it now no longer exists after a merger, but the sources say the merger will improve the College. It seems that an IP editor may have caused serious damage to the article. Someone closer to the action then Melbourne, Australia is needed. --Bduke (talk) 05:02, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * As far as I know Ruskin (whose links to the University are basically non-existent by now) continues to lurch from crisis to crisis, and the IP editor is just pushing a POV. There are genuine problems, e.g. see | College suspends principal just two months before merger, but I haven't seen news of more than that. I have restored the last good version for now. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 08:33, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, I have now made a few more edits to update the situation. But this isn't really anything to do with the University of Oxford any more. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 09:02, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Jonathan. I agree that the IP editor was just pushing a POV. I have just had a bit of a problem with my computer but all is well now.--Bduke (talk) 10:29, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

RfC of interest
This RfC may be of interest to members of this group. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:01, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
 * The subject is Christopher Wren. TSventon (talk) 14:33, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

FAR of Wesley Clark
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Oxford Centre for Hebrew and Jewish Studies
Oxford Centre for Hebrew and Jewish Studies seems to have stopped being a recognised independent centre in 2018–2019, if anyone has any more information or better references, please could you contribute to Talk:Oxford Centre for Hebrew and Jewish Studies or of course update the article. TSventon (talk) 11:14, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This page seems fairly clear: it's now incorporated into the Department of Hebrew and Jewish Studies within the Faculty of Oriental Studies. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 14:00, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Modern Art Oxford is not part of the University
I noticed on Talk:Modern Art Oxford that the page is part of this project. Unlike many museums in Oxford, Modern Art Oxford is not part of the University, so it might be a mistake that it is included in the project? Ascendingrisingharmonising (talk) 16:48, 20 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Ascendingrisingharmonising I think that the banner just means WP University of Oxford editors might know about or be interested in the article, so I am not too worried by this. Modern Art Oxford is not and should not be included in Category:University of Oxford. TSventon (talk) 17:51, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Blackfriars Hall
The article has recently been moved from Blackfriars, Oxford to Blackfriars Hall, Oxford by Ravenpuff. If anyone has any comments on the common name of the hall, please contribute at Talk:Blackfriars Hall, Oxford. TSventon (talk) 15:23, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford § Processing of sexual assault cases
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Lady Margaret Hall, Oxford § Processing of sexual assault cases. &#x0020;(This is a conflict of interest edit.) — Bilorv ( talk ) 13:51, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

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==Proposed move: Category:Professors of the University of Cambridge to Category:Professors at the University of Cambridge== You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 10 § Category:Professors of the University of Cambridge. &#x0020;I have proposed standardising towards a convention of using at for institutions and of for subjects, in category names of the format "professor(ship)s [at/of] [institution/subject]" and "[sociologists/historians/etc] [at/of] [institution/subject]" (at least within the Cambridge category tree). I am cross-posting this here as it might set a precedent that would effect Oxford categories, and we require more input to reach consensus. Charlie A. (talk) 17:55, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

Image request
Hello all. Just over from The Cricket Project. I wonder if any project participants might reside in Oxford? If so, I wonder if you would be able to capture some photos of the Christ Church Cricket Ground which is on Iffley Road. Just a general view of the pitch and any buildings/facilities would be fantastic. Cheers in advance, StickyWicket (talk) 23:00, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do. It's down a private side lane off the Iffley Road, but I'll see how far down that I can get. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 11:40, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * looking forward to seeing what photos you get! StickyWicket (talk) 22:30, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry this took so long: due to a combination of locked gates, bad weather, and suspicious groundsmen. Take a look in User:Jonathan A Jones/Gallery. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 16:05, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * no worries, I've had my fair share of suspicious groundsmen too! These photos are brilliant, nothing better than a cricket ground with a blue sky. Thank you for all your effort and perseverance in getting these, it is much appreciated! Cheers, StickyWicket (talk) 20:47, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Oxford University cricket ground article expansions
Hello all. I have expanded the following cricket grounds used by Oxford University Cricket Club in first-class cricket:


 * Bullingdon Green
 * Christ Church Ground
 * Magdalen Ground
 * New College Ground

If anyone has any further sources to expand upon the history of these venues, it would be much appreciated! Possibly looking at getting Christ Church and Magdalen to GA class. Cheers, StickyWicket (talk) 11:00, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

New draft for Mathematical Institute, University of Oxford
Just want to draw the WikiProject's attention to the edit request here. MartinPoulter (talk) 12:52, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Now actioned. MartinPoulter (talk) 17:11, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Department of Biology
The University of Oxford is launches a new department on the 1 August. Work is underway to create a new page for it here, additions welcome but it's ready to go live.

Draft:Department of Biology, University of Oxford

The below departments are merging and should be redirected to the Biology page:

Department of Plant Sciences, University of Oxford

Department of Zoology, University of Oxford

Do we also need to adapt the Oxford Uni template to reflect the new structure in the MPLS division? 48jkb35m (talk) 07:40, 29 July 2022 (UTC)


 * 48jkb35m, I have had a look at the draft and have a few suggestions.
 * if you are connected with the department, please review the conflict of interest guidance I have added to your talk page.
 * the draft was submitted through Articles for creation on 27 July and declined because it did not have enough references or evidence of Notability. More references have been added, but most of them are to university websites. According to Notability (organizations and companies) An organisation is notable if it has received "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject", so more independent sources are probably needed.
 * I don't think that the Plant Sciences and Zoology articles need to be redirected, they can be kept as articles about former departments of the university.
 * Template:University of Oxford can be updated once the article is published, as can the list at Divisions of the University of Oxford. TSventon (talk) 07:20, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Garton Ash and his Polish-born wife Danuta live primarily in Oxford, England
 * Or
 * Garton Ash and his Polish-born wife Danuta live primarily in Oxford, UK? 79.73.24.40 (talk) 22:19, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

GAR notice
University of Oxford has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:14, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

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FAR for Bernard Williams
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