Talk:Apple Vision Pro

Duplicate article
People, we already have an article at Apple mixed reality headset; can we delete this and move the other one here? DFlhb (talk) 18:33, 5 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Pinging admin is CSD G6 the right option here? DFlhb (talk) 18:35, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Seems too late for that, never mind. DFlhb (talk) 18:46, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Just let this develop for a day and then we can revisit.--Milowent • hasspoken 18:47, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes; not all of that page's content can be merged anyway. DFlhb (talk) 19:03, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * how about deleting that other page and merging its content into this one? riffic (talk) 19:02, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge into Apple Vision Pro. The obvious solution. It's kind of already done at this point  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 19:11, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge template has now been removed, I hope no one re-adds it since a merge is non-contentious. DFlhb (talk) 19:16, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Well done!--Milowent • hasspoken 19:40, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you to ElijahPepe for merging and Czar for writing that other article DFlhb (talk) 19:49, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Job well done. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 19:56, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Merge
Merge more details about the OS from User talk:DFlhb/XrOS 172.117.237.102 (talk) 23:43, 5 June 2023 (UTC)


 * User:DFlhb/XrOS 172.117.237.102 (talk) 23:43, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * There was only one sentence worth merging; done. DFlhb (talk) 05:00, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Reception
It would be bad manners to have a reception section on an unreleased product, but several reliable outlets have tried it on, so I suggest we add a paragraph if someone's willing to write it. We should make it clear these are pre-release demos though. DFlhb (talk) 05:15, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-vision-pro-i-tried-the-new-mixed-reality-headset-f49a8811 (prioritize this one: generalist outlet, not techno-geeks; "Bypass Paywalls Clean" if necessary)
 * https://9to5mac.com/2023/06/05/hands-on-apple-vision-pro-mixed-reality-headset/
 * https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/5/23750003/apple-vision-pro-hands-on-the-best-headset-demo-ever
 * https://techcrunch.com/2023/06/05/first-impressions-yes-apple-vision-pro-works-and-yes-its-good/


 * Is there policy stating that there can't be a reception section on products that haven't gone to market yet? There is significant coverage of the announcement and it seems encyclopedic to include the reception from technologists and reviewers. Kcmastrpc (talk) 15:33, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Not that I'm aware of but it'd look a little silly and expose us to "fancruft" criticism. And these people only tried a pre-release version, so there'd be a due weight/WP:MINORASPECT issue with treating that as anything more than initial impressions. DFlhb (talk) 20:02, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
 * This is a new product line, and I think we've had pre-release reception on devices before. Commentary on how Apple isn't positioning it is also relevant to the storyline. ViperSnake151   Talk  16:20, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Patents are WP:OR?
Came across Apple’s patents on Vision Pro from a secondary source (https://www.patentlyapple.com/augmented-reality/). Would inclusion be original research? 207.96.32.81 (talk) 14:32, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Mixed reality or Extended reality?
Intro says the headset is a mixed reality headset, the infobox says it's an extended reality headset. I know extended reality is an umbrella term but might be confusing to readers. While MR already incorporates both VR and AR, extended reality is basically the same as MR, but might be more referring to the VR/AR/MR market as a whole and future technologies. Coldbolt (talk) 20:55, 6 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Apple itself does not refer to it as a mixed or extended reality headset and classifies it as a spatial computer. In my opinion, it is better to leave a note about this. Parham wiki (talk) 22:54, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know whether to call it MR or XR, but right now we call it an "AR headset", and we shouldn't. It does virtual reality too. DFlhb (talk) 00:09, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

New product line
The article states that the most recent new product line that Apple ventured into was with the Apple Watch, but should the newest be the homepod, as it came out in 2018 (3 years after the Apple Watch)? Snazzydude1234 (talk) 02:23, 7 June 2023 (UTC)


 * You're right! CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 06:12, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The HomePod is a minor product. Apple fans would call it "a hobby" for Apple, which is what Steve Jobs called the Apple TV in the late 2000s. Reliable sources agree that it makes more sense to only compare it to the Apple Watch as the last major product. DFlhb (talk) 07:51, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Technically, AirTags are the newest product line from Apple, but as DFlhb has stated, the Apple Watch is considered by sources as the latest "major" product line. Itsquietuptown  ✉️📜 12:12, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Can we add info about restrictions on dev units?
The following link states the conditions of getting a dev kit: https://www.macrumors.com/2023/07/28/vision-pro-developer-lab-invites/

Can someone add it please?

Urbanracer34 (talk) 15:00, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Design section reads like an ad
It has spelling mistakes, dubious claims and it quotes the article incorrectly. Serojo (talk) 13:25, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Should we remove the word upcoming from the description?
I know the official launch date is February 2 of this year, but technically, it's already out, since it can be pre-ordered. It's a technical wording issue, but I believe it shouldn't be termed as upcoming anymore. Ai777 (talk) 05:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Describing it as "upcoming" before its release date is accurate, but I don't think it's necessarily needed for the SD. InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Mit quote of the day?
This product had dubious public reception on launch day that resulted in MIT's quote of the day.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/02/06/1087797/the-download-using-ai-to-access-mental-health-services-and-the-natural-gas-debate/

The resulting commentary was picked up by numerous news sources both in print, online, as well as radio and news broadcast. I think this should be added. 2600:1014:B14E:7146:7103:11E9:FE21:EF81 (talk) 13:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

New photos
Hey everyone,

i had a Vision Pro for a couple of days, so i decided to make a series of detailed pictures. I've added a couple to the article, maybe there are more that could be useful in this or other articles. They're all in the Commons category. Husky (talk page) 12:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

using reddit as a source
"Reviews from buyers of Apple Vision Pro have been mixed. Some users on Reddit seemed very satisfied with the device and entranced with the concept of a spatial computer, and others lamented the small field of view or lack of common VR qualities."

"Some users on reddit." While I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, I don't think we should include a couple of random people's opinions on reddit on a Wikipedia page. Unless hundreds or thousands (or millions, etc) are voicing their opinions on something then we shouldn't include it. Even then we probably shouldn't.

I'm going to remove the bits relating to this, but feel free to revert it if you need to.

Data Devourer (talk) 08:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)