Talk:Driver 3

Official Site
The official site hasn't worked for quite some time now and should be removed. Alternatively there is a mirror on the Driver Madness fansite at http://www.drivermadness.net/main/mirror_d3.php However I'm not sure if this is allowed under wikipedia's rules becausesfddfdb it's a mirror of an official site so I'm not quite sure. I'll leave it up to you editors Driver Madness 10:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Glitches
I find two glitches in the game. One is the Abyss Glitch and the Silent Engine Glitch, only when you have Invincibility cheat. Anything Else

1990?
How do we know it's abouxcvbt 1990? Where does that date come from? Chaz 21:30, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't see where the date could have come from. There is no real year that the game can be set in with everyone using Nokia phones while driving 1970s esque vehicles.MickBarnes 10:34, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


 * The game is, as far as I know, set around the same time it was released. The level of technology (cell phones, computers, etc.) indicate early-2000s. The age of the vehicles is accurate, though- there are newer, fancier vehicles in Miami and Nice (along with a mix of older cars) but in the substantially poorer Istanbul you see older cars. -albrozdude 16:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Personally i think it's set around 1982, the cars in the game seem to suggest this (there are no modern hatchbacks/MPV's for instance). The adverts for mobile phones are simply very blatant product placement, especially embarrising in the Turkish levels as Turkey was a communist country at the time. Also the first two Driver games appeared to be set in the late 1970's so if Driv3r was set in modern times Tanner would be ancient.
 * I always thought the games were set around the time of the release.. :s. It could be a reboot.

Lazyguythewerewolf. Rawr. 13:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

There is no true date however the number 2003 can be found on the side of the big blue garbage bins. The year 2004 can also be located on an official image released just before the game. The nokia phone used was the Nokia 3200 and was released around 2001 and become quite common in 2003.vcbxv

But the game was set in no time period, the cars are from different eras and the game wasn't designed in any era. Driver Madness 11:49, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

this game is not that bad
i dont see why people dont like the game it has pretty good graphics.. gameplay is not the best but it's pretty good.. i guess fanboyism plays a major role. 75.15.240.141 05:56, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

the game is the best I've never played it but xbox magazine said it woz the best xbox game ever... it said blinx woz a good game.... blinx rox!! the game is not that bad? I've never played it but xbox magazine said it woz the worst xbox game ever... but then again xbox mag doesnt no that much about good games...it said blinx woz a good game.... blinx sux!! - kozmic|sk8r 09:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

WTF?!?! i didnt say that!! - kozmic|sk8r 05:56, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * "People" say the game is bad because the reviews of the game across the world where generally bad. "Fanboyism" doesnt enter into a wiki page 86.138.26.56 17:45, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


 * A couple of responses on this talk page (f.e. kozmic's) were vandalised by 24.89.74.3. I have reverted his edits now. --Krótki 08:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

It became stale after a while. It should have had melee, better camera and a more interactive world with Tanner speaking more. Radio stations could have been featured. The graphics were OK but I can praise the games physics, similar to the quality of Havok Physics Engine RoboHomo (talk) 21:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)


 * @RoboHomo yeah they should have added side quests and collectibles or maybe some radio towers to climb as a chore indeed they should have had micro transactions and planes you could enter why not add an underwater level with nazi lazersharks that try to eat you if you try to exit the game i just dont get it how can a trillion dollar company not have the time and money for that ohhh just think of the possibilities we would have had like customizing tanner with different skins and having an online multiplayer where the servers would be up 24/7 with 0 ping oh how great that would have been now look where we are left alone with this pile of rubbish i mean the game doest even have skins for the guns you pick up oh well at least i have this page to pour my emotions in dont you think so
 * anyway ill be here in the corner drinking my coffee  and thinking of how miserable my life is now that i realized how much potential was lost in releasing the game this early 213.168.31.165 (talk) 06:47, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Film Director criticism
This should be added to this article. Professional Gamer 21:18, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, this is probably one of the best features in the game Driver Madness 10:21, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

alteration
Changed the word 'clip' to 'magazine'. Technically it's a misnomer to refer to them as clips. Clips allow rounds to be attached to said clip, and then the clip is (typically) inserted in the magazine as a whole, or alternately, the rounds are slid down from the clip into the magaine. Some can be considered a magazine loading aide, others may be integral to the loading process, and form a structural guide or cage to secure the rounds in the magazine (m1 garand for example)

I'm tempted to change shotgun shells to cartridges, but I suspect that unlike the above distinctions, the name given to shotgun cartridges (or rounds or shells) varys somewhat in various parts of the world where English is spoken.

List of Cars?
Why was the list of cars removed? The LIst seemed Accurate, and was quite nice to have

Wasn't there a competition...
I remember that there was a competition of some kind and the winner was inclued in the game. And the winner was from Finland. If somebody knows more about this, it would be nice if he/she could write it in to the article.

The was a competition for a face scan to be put in the game by the development team reflections interactive.

There was also a competition for a spin around in some hot wheels. Some for of Muscle Car. It was basically a stunt driving course in those wheels. --Driver Madness 10:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Driv3rgate
I am rather surprised to find no mention of the "Driv3rgate" controversy. I don't have much editing power or time right now, but if anyone is interested in a little muck-raking, you can get your start here and here. A little Googling would probably net some more info. The aggressive use of shills in message boards and unrealistically glowing reviews in exchange for favors... Tsk tsk, Atari. That's the sort of behavior that gets you sent home with a note for your mother to sign. ~ JohnnyMrNinja  05:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
 * And now the section reads terribly. I couldn't figure out if it was users saying that everyone BUT the UK reviewer were giving the game shit reviews on purpose, or if it was just the UK reviewer doing it for some anomalous reason. I had to go to the citation article to figure out what anyone was saying. C'mon, guys. - anon

This may be the result of systematic censorship being carried out by parties who are still actively involved in covering up the scandal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.141.113.39 (talk) 14:08, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * The "3 Major Gaming Scandals That Were Buried | Fact Hunt" youtube video brings to light this nonsense. IMHO the article needs to be locked against anonymous IP addresses.--BruceGrubb (talk) 16:45, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Stuart Cambell's archive of gamesRadar.com's "Driv3r Reviews. Were PSM2 & XBW honest? (Part II)" thread can be found at world of stuart in mht format. It is only 42 pages of the some 64 page thread because the "reporter's forum account was banned without warning or explanation by Future"--BruceGrubb (talk) 16:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Realeese dates are wrong
The Pc version came out nearly a year later (15.03.05) than the Ps2 and Xbox 1. 83.108.196.34 (talk) 13:38, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Source: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/driver3/index.html

Requested move 24 January 2014

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 00:00, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Driv3r → Driver 3 – Per WP:MOSTM: "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official", as long as this is a style already in widespread use, rather than inventing a new one". GameSpot and Eurogamer use "Driver 3", also The Armchair Empire, Game Vortex, Game Over.net Mika1h (talk) 15:56, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Survey

 * Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with  or  , then sign your comment with  . Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.


 * Oppose To rename an article you need to demonstrate how it better fits the article title policy—it's not clear the MoS link you give is relevant as it's not really unusual formatting or capitalisation occurs in the name (just a number). In terms of which name is most commonly used, each of the four references used in the article use the title "Driv3r", as do each of the external links you give in the nomination (?), additionally google searches for "Driver 3" vs. "Driv3r" (incl. quotes) returns approx. 800k to 1.2 million hits, suggesting "Driv3r" is the common name. benmoore 20:52, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:AT (incl. WP:TITLETM). A number is unusual formatting for a letter, and it is not apparent that the successor to "Driver 2" would be "Driv3r". Since the sources don't appear to consistently use the "leetspeak" form of the name, Wikipedia shouldn't either. —BarrelProof (talk) 22:14, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Can you link to a source that doesn't use Driv3r as evidence of this inconsistency? The naming of serial games/films etc. may well not be the most obvious choice sometimes but that doesn't change the name. Is it obvious that 2 Fast 2 Furious follows The Fast and the Furious?
 * The way this nomination should have been proposed has nothing to do with trademarks and capitalisation, but should ask: is the name of the game Driver 3 (sometimes stylised as Driv3r), or Driv3r. Use of sources and web searches should be able to determine which of those is correct, per precedents like 2 Fast 2 Furious (actual name) and se7en (stylised). benmoore 12:21, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The nominator listed five sources that refer to the game as "Driver 3". The article itself cites six sources, either as in-line references or external links. Aside from the one source that is a dead link, all of them refer to the game (or soundtrack) being alternatively referred to as "Driver 3" somewhere on their page. Among these ten sources, several of them include commentary about "Driv3r" being problematic. The decorative name is unpronounceable (with "Driver" being ambiguous and "Driv-three-er" being unacceptably awkward) which seems to further tilt in favor of "Driver 3". When given a choice between alternative titles, Wikipedia policy and guidelines prefer the those that are less stylistically decorative. —BarrelProof (talk) 16:32, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The thing is, each of those links contains Driv3r, many in the page title and/or URL, as do all the references on the page. A list of references calling the game Driver 3 would lead me to support the move but that doesn't seem to be the case. Let's take the second example:
 * URL: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/r_driv3r_x
 * Title: DRIV3R Review
 * Content:, Ctrl+f "Driv3r": 28 matches; "Driver 3": 2 matches. benmoore 16:47, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, most (perhaps all) of them include both names. But when there are two name forms available, Wikipedia policy and guidelines say to use the one that is formatted as in ordinary English, not the one with the most string matches per article. —BarrelProof (talk) 03:58, 28 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Support Red Slash 04:17, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Support Same reasons as BarrelProof - X201 (talk) 09:56, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Support. The sources that use "DRIV3R" capitalize the spelling, as well—doesn't mean that's how it should be used in an encyclopedia. The RS aren't much help, as they mostly use the stylized spelling and capitalization, though 1UP says to pronounce it as "Driver 3". I think the Se7en example is apropos, and it's actually listed as an example at WP:MOSTM's "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced...." MOS is the Bible and the proposed title fits common sense. Seems clear-cut to me. Eye close font awesome.svg czar  ♔  19:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Support per MOS:TM. Although commonly known as Driv3r, our naming policy disallows most stylization for titles and I don't see a compelling reason to overrule in this case. Writing "Driv3r" instead of "Driver 3" doesn't affect the title's meaning and only supports the developer's spelling quirk. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 21:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Support. Driver 3, which best suits Wikipedia's preferred styling, is a stylisation that occurs often enough in reliable sources that there is no strong case that we should accept the unusual product style.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:45, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Discussion

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Open world
I couldn't find any reliable sources that call this an open world game. Permission to take it out of the category?Dohvahkiin (talk) 17:24, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I found three sources which indicate it is.Dohvahkiin (talk) 17:39, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
 * These sources indicate the game is linear instead of free-roaming: http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox/driv3r/525384p1.html?fromint=1

http://m.gamerevolution.com/review/driv3r http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/driv3r-review/1900-6101203/Dohvahkiin (talk) 20:37, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

The section about the game sounds very promotional and that is not for Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.226.217.139 (talk) 21:26, 11 December 2016 (UTC)