Talk:James Harvey Insole

Notes on recent edits

 * I'm surprised we don't have an article for Cymmer disaster.
 * Next on my list :) RLO1729 (talk)


 * "Staith" is a new word to me, so I glossed it with a link to wharf.
 * In this context a staith is "an elevated staging upon a wharf for discharging coal, etc." rather than just the wharf. I will link to Wiktionary instead. RLO1729 (talk)


 * Why not use the regular spelling of Rhonnda?
 * Rhondda is correct. RLO1729 (talk)


 * Review MOS:ALT as the "alt" text should not duplicate the caption.
 * Will do, thanks. RLO1729 (talk)


 * "sank the Upper Cymmer Colliery" sounds like "sinking" or bankrupting a business. I figure that's a mining term, but could that be reworded?
 * Yes, it's a mining term but will think about a suitable rewording. RLO1729 (talk)


 * "Insole was dismissed" isn't clear at first reading. It sounds like he was dismissed from a job.
 * The source (Lewis, 1976) uses the same word. I think qualifying it with "from the enquiry" makes it clear. RLO1729 (talk)


 * Is "city village" right?
 * Yes, both words apply (and using both will hopefully satisfy those who know Llandaff well). Wikipedia:Llandaff has "Historically, Llandaff was informally known as a 'city', because of its status as the seat of the Bishop of Llandaff." but also "Seen as a clean and green up-market countrified village location close to the fast developing city, many of the better-off coal merchants and business people chose to live in Llandaff". RLO1729 (talk)


 * Links like https://museum.wales/media-dams/6a1d6dc2-f8bf-3dc7-9ef3-bac048e3989b/large and https://museum.wales/media-dams/46c119cb-f2ae-3e1b-be3e-11de0402e075/large are external links and might be in a separate section at the bottom, but not in text.
 * Thanks, will revise. RLO1729 (talk)


 * At "..."the example set by the", should it be ""... the example set by the"? (Confusing because the quote mark is part of the quote.)
 * The punctuation follows the source. RLO1729 (talk)

I hope that helps. SchreiberBike &#124; ⌨ 20:44, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated, very helpful as always! RLO1729 (talk) 02:47, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Many thanks again for picking up so many copy edit details - great work! Just a few further thoughts:
 * Links in "HM Inspector of Mines" (prev) vs "HM Inspector of Mines" (cur): the first link explains the meaning of HM whereas the second doesn't. Revert to first version?
 * I like the link to Government of the United Kingdom, which includes the phrase "Her Majesty's Government" in bold, but if you prefer the other, that's fine. SchreiberBike &#124; ⌨
 * Quotebox change to show "HM Inspector of Mines" as Quotebox source: the box includes two quotes with only the second by HM Inspector of Mines, so I wanted to indicate that by keeping the "HM Inspector of Mines" with just the second quote.
 * I missed that it was two separate quotations. In that case, I'd think it should be two separate quote boxes. SchreiberBike &#124; ⌨
 * "INSOLES wagons" (prev) vs "Insoles wagons" (cur): the wagons in the image are labelled "INSOLES" but "Insoles wagons" feels as if it needs an apostrophe if it is just text in the sentence. What about " 'Insoles' wagons" or "wagons labelled 'Insoles' "?
 * MOS:ALLCAPS leaves almost no room for all caps. "Wagons labelled 'Insoles looks good. SchreiberBike &#124; ⌨
 * 'Death and legacy' section linking of Insole Court - unnecessary as previously linked in lead section?
 * Yes, it's not necessary, but it's far enough away from the first link, and I think it's likely that a person reading that section would welcome the link there. SchreiberBike &#124; ⌨
 * :) RLO1729 (talk) 03:52, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Pleasure working with you. SchreiberBike &#124; ⌨ 04:58, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Likewise! RLO1729 (talk) 05:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

C-class assessment
I assessed this as C-class to get the ball rolling, as it was previously Unassessed even though a candidate for Good Article status. May I suggest someone uses the B-class criteria to check if it could be promoted to B as the next step? It certainly seems to be a worthy article, but I am not experienced in detailed assessments. I have also added the article to WP:Cardiff welsh (talk) 22:44, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Comments
Many thanks for your copy edits 84.64.237.205, excellent work! ~ RLO1729&#128172; 02:43, 2 July 2020 (UTC)