Talk:Multan

The Population of Multan is above 3083000 people according to 1998 census.

2nd oldest city in the civilized world?
I heard this claim three times during the England Pakistan test today, any truth to it? If so, should it be included here?Fkh82 06:35, 13 November 2005 (UTC) yes, it's true.

yeah man I live in multan and I have heard it in so many times and when england cricket team was in multan then ten sports made a small documentary of multan in which they repeated that line.

Lots of changes and improvements to the article
I have reformated the article to improve the quality and layout to make it more reader friendly;


 * 1) Changed old infobox to a more up-to-date one used for Pakistani cities
 * 2) Added link to a seperate History of Multan article, so we can shift the history section into the other article and rewrite the history to form a summary in the main multan page
 * 3) Changed title of Location to Geography and Climate
 * 4) Combined Industry, agriculture, fruit export sections to form one Economy section
 * 5) Reformated the sites of interest section and moved text to individual articles where they can be expanded upon.
 * 6) Readded pics to the article that removed at the start
 * 7) Added more references that I used about History.

If I can make any more inprovements to the article(s) do contact me. Many Thanks Fast track 03:56 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Sanskrit is not relevent
Sanskrit is not relevent to any article related to Pakistan. Inclusion of Sanskrit implies that this language is still in use in Pakistan, which is completely wrong. If you insist to add Sanskrit then add it in History section with the etymology of the word Multan. But remove it from the first line of the article. Szhaider 14:45, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * After a second thought I have come to agree with Tigeroo to some extent. However, I think adding Sanskrit to first line implies that it is an alternative name of Multan which is wrong. Therefore, I have moved Sanskrit to the history section. Note that I am not censoring this information; just moving to more appropriate place to make more sense out of it. Szhaider 02:19, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, that Samskritham is not in use majorly in Pakistan as of now (2024). I was curious to know the etymological roots of the word Multan. It does root to Moolashtaana (the main place) where the Sindhu civilization flourished from. That being the case, I would also like to know what "Pakistan" means? If Samskritham is not to be anywhere around Multan whose very root is Moolasthaana from Samskrutham, then kindly provide your thought process around the same on what is wrong. I am open to learn more. Samskrutham does not in any way mean Hinduism FYI. We need to get to the roots of all our civilizations in order to build a society that can be united on the most common basis. Trust me, I am not a staunch religion supporter, let alone Hinduism. These religions only find ways to divide people and nothing else. I a ma hindhu by birth, but have not found anything different in me from a Muslim, or a Christian or a Jain, or a Buddist, or any other human known to the mankind. We all feel pain and pleasure the same way. We all deserve respect by default. We all get hungry at least once in a day. We all smile at a baby's smiling face no matter where we come from. All of these factors need to be considered before even attaching one's self to a religion is what I have come to learning.
 * Thank you. Abhaynagaraj (talk) 18:33, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Sanskrit script should be removed. It is not used in Multan let alone in Pakistan. It would be the same as me editing and puting urdu script beside Mumbai's name. Mik357 (talk) 04:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Historical Images
It would be nice if anybody can upload images of ruins of suraj mandir or Prahladpuri temples?. It would make history section of article more complete.

Lokesh 2000 09:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I have deleted several POV statements and cleared up a few mistakes. There are so many POV statements that it is impossible to get rid of them without completely redoing the whole article. 143.53.5.34 16:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Scholars Section
There is a scholars section added, except for the names there is nothing in it. It merits deletion if no info is added. requesting editors to add more info. Lokesh 2000 12:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

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Question
I recently done a partial revert to an anon edit that was immediately reverted. The dentist does not appear to meet WP:PEOPLE, so, unless I'm missing something, she shouldn't be included. The arbitrary boldface to two colonies makes no sense. The changing the header from "Notable people from Multan" to "Notable polititians (sic) from Multan" makes no sense since there is a footballer included and, as of now, a dentist. Thoughts? Apparition11 Complaints / Mistakes  23:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)


 * But if u have objection on title why there is no learned person accepted in this list? is there no qualified noteable in Multan? Why only politicians are accepted in this list who are not even no the meanings of notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.37.64.220 (talk) 00:00, 17 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Anyone from Multan who meets the criteria of WP:PEOPLE should be included on the list. Politicians are not the only people on the list, Naveed Akram, a footballer, and Inzamam ul Haq, a cricketer, are on the list. Most definitions of notable and Wikipedia's definition are not the same. I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say in your last sentence, but, it appears that the politicians all do meet our criteria and have articles. Apparition11  Complaints / Mistakes  00:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Also, would you mind giving your reason for making these edits? Why the bolding of 2, but not all colonies. I don't think any should be, but why just 2 certain ones? Why do you think the dentist meets WP:PEOPLE? Why the heading when everyone in the list are not politicians? Apparition11  Complaints / Mistakes  00:15, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and reverted, as I can see of no real reason for most of the edits. Bolding only 2 colonies for no obvious reason doesn't scream good-faith. Labeling the section "polititians" (despite the spelling) seems to be obviously incorrect. The only part that I can see that could be even debated on is the dentist, but even that is an unsourced red link that doesn't even assert notability. Apparition11  Complaints / Mistakes  01:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

mangoes? or mango trees?
The caption under the photo of mango trees says that mango trees are a large portion of Multan's export. . . but isn't it the mangoes themselves that are exported? Ed8r (talk) 22:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Should MPAs and MNAs qualify for "Notable people from Multan"
The "Notable people from Multan" listing has a number of MPAs and MNAs. Are such people really notable enough to list out there? Especially MPAs; it would make sense that a large number of Punjab's MPAs would come from one of that province's largest cities. So how high a bar should we set for inclusion on the list? MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:03, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Salamath ali khan needs to be added to this list. He is definitely more important to the legacy of multan than some useless politician. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.118.49 (talk) 03:43, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

The website link of multan should be removed or replaced
When you open the site it says a warning on Firefox Reported Attack Site! This web site at www.multan.gov.pk has been reported as an attack site and has been blocked based on your security preferences. This could be harmful for the users who don't have a good security level. So kindly either remove this link or replace it with a better one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aeymon (talk • contribs) 20:28, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Population
According source quoted, the population give to Multan is in fact the population of Hyderabad.--88.19.49.50 (talk) 08:36, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

PAKISTAN IS SO MUCH BEAUTIFULL LIKE MULTAN —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.83.175.15 (talk) 07:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Clarification on "Amir Muavia" in History section
Is the "Amir Muavia" referred to in the History section meant to be Muawiya II, Muawiya I, or whom? He should be referred to by WP name and wikilinked for clarity. Stability Information East 2 (talk) 15:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Map image breaches policy & has been removed
There is currently a deletion discussion taking place at Commons regarding File:Map on Dialects Of Punjabi Language.jpg, which can be viewed. Regardless of whether the map image is deleted at Commons, I think that it needs to be removed from all English Wikipedia articles because it breaches our synthesis policy. The image creator has provided a long list of sources in the deletion discussion and it is evident from those that none contain all of the information shown in the image, nor is it a simple task to work out which bits of information were gleaned from which source(s). We simply do not permit people to aggregate information in this way. It should also be noted that the chances are very high that the various sources did not even adopt the same methodology in compiling their data, which makes the analysis of the creator even more suspect. I have removed the image because the Commons discussion may end up as something other than "delete" and yet the thing is still invalid on English Wikipedia. - Sitush (talk) 19:28, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Map was deleted on two reasons. 1... Commons deletion discussion but now Deletion request by Sitush has been rejected on Wikimedia Commons. 2... Sitush has a self perception that map is synthesis, which is actually not because it is based on latest research of 2007 in the Publication named 'The Indo-Aryan Languages' by George Cardona and Dhanesh Jain. So I am re inserting it. Unless Sitush prove it again as a synthesis and refer me the areas of map being synthesized also mentioning the different publications along with page numbers where from in his kind opinion I have synthesized the map.Maria0333 (talk) 08:23, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Multan is my surname.
Can there be any connection between name of this city and my surname? I'm from Poland, and i'm very curious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.47.42.150 (talk) 17:22, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Coding error in page layout? (empty space at right of page, halfway down)
Is it just my computer, or are others seeing that after the Climate section, there is a big empty space to the right of the page? Is there some error in the coding with columns or charts? MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:22, 13 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Open "div style" bracket. Fixed. Laszlo Panaflex (talk) 04:21, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Multan
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Multan's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Wink": From Multan Sun Temple:  From Pashtuns:  From Surya:  From Muhammad bin Qasim: Wink (2002) pg. 204-206 From Kushan Empire: André Wink, Al-Hind, the Making of the Indo-Islamic World: The Slavic Kings and the Islamic conquest, 11th-13th centuries, (Oxford University Press, 1997), 57. 

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 08:52, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Actor
I request please my information upload to Google.thank u very much Ather Aziz Khan Baloch (talk) 06:53, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

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Edits to article
I want to edit that Multan was the historic cultural centre of wider Punjab region. Its history reaches 5 millenia back to early harrapan period of 3000BC. (i have google book resources) It was conquered by Arab military commander Muhammad bin Qasim as capital of then Punjab region(google book sources).. Vintage 1234 (talk) 20:35, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to do that! As long as you cite the source you've used for each statement (see WP:REFB) and as long as that source passes the reliability requirements of WP:HISTRS. Uanfala (talk) 15:58, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Ok understood. Vintage 1234 (talk) 19:32, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Dead link
The http://www.mda.gop.pk/ link is dead. That link should be removed and only the https://multan.punjab.gov.pk/ link should be included. Skrizlee (talk) 21:04, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Main page
The main page of this article does not fit it as it only has a little info about it as compared to the articles of Lahore, Peshawar, Karachi, Quetta, etc. as Multan is a major city and culturally important to Pakistan as well as the Punjab. Historianist01 (talk) 11:26, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 May 2023
Change "These tetxts also assert that Multan" to "These texts also assert that Multan". Chances last a finite time (talk) 18:00, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ Tollens (talk) 18:18, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Multan
Multan (مُلتان; [mʊltaːn] (listen)) is a city in Punjab, Pakistan, on the bank of the Chenab River. Multan was Pakistan's seventh most populous city in 2017 census. It is one of the five largest urban centres of Pakistan in 2023, with an estimated population of 2.2 million, and is the major cultural, religious and economic centre of Southern Punjab. Multan is known for ancient heritage and historic landmarks. Situated at the heart of South Asian subcontinent Multan region was centre of many civilizations.

The city is one of the oldest continuously inhabited cities in Asia, with a history stretching deep into antiquity. The city was site of the renowned Multan Sun Temple, and was besieged by Alexander the Great during the Mallian Campaign. It was conquered by the Umayyad military commander Muhammad bin Qasim in 712 CE after the conquest of Sindh. Multan reached height of its splendour during the Arab rule of 9th and 10th century when it was made separate state of Emirate of Multan thereby ruling large parts of Punjab and Kashmir. 2402:E280:3D28:103:39AD:BA7F:47EE:6096 (talk) 08:48, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Multan Infobox images
What happened to the beautiful collage that was used as the image (File:MultanMontage.jpg) for Multan infobox. Why has it been replaced with poor quality images. Can someone please revert this lacking edit someone has made. The Story of Marjaan (talk) 18:41, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 September 2023
Multan Cricket Stadium Kashif gazi (talk) 16:46, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 17:48, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 October 2023
Phani Karthik (talk) 08:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Please change X =

"The origin of Multan's name is unclear. An ancient known name of the city was Malli-istan ".

to Y =

The name Multan is derived from the Sanskrit word Moola-sthan which itself is a shortened version of the more complete - "Moola-stana-puram". The famed Chinese traveller Xuanzang records the details of this place under the name "Mu-lo-san-p’u-lo" in his treatise which is available now as "Si-yu-ki: Buddhist records of the western worlds".

Explanation/Reason:

1) The Statement X contradicts the very article it cites in these points.

1.a) Multan, previously known as Moolasthan, derives its name form the idol of the Sun-temple which was situated in this place.

1.b) "Mallisthan" is no where used in the article itself.

2) I request the addition of another source as citation complementing the current source.

Thanks & Regards
 * This has been pending for over a month with nobody willing to review it. Deactivating as stale. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 21:53, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Lead
mind explaining why you needed to revert the lead section twice without any rational reason? Sutyarashi (talk) 17:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 April 2024
"Change 'It is the seventh largest city in Pakistan and serves as administrative capital of its namesake division' to 'Multan is one of the five largest urban centres of Pakistan in 2024 and is the administrative centre of Multan division'. Captchaedits (talk) 04:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: no reason given for the proposed change. M.Bitton (talk) 15:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Reason for the change is that it is the updated population ranking of the city. Captchaedits (talk) 08:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 April 2024
"Change X: 'It is the seventh largest city in Pakistan and serves as administrative capital of its namesake division' to Y:'Multan is one of the five largest urban centres of Pakistan in 2024 and serves as the admininistrative centre of Multan division. ' https://www.pbs.gov.pk/content/announcement-results-7th-population-and-housing-census-2023-digital-census Unleashed something (talk) 18:04, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ Charliehdb (talk) 10:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 June 2024
In the book "The History of India, as Told by Its Own Historians" Volume 1. pages 60&61 there is a detailed description of Multan. I would like to add the text below.

History Origin Multan which was called Mula Sthana was a Tirtha kshetra for Hindus. It is devoted to the god Agni (sun god). every year Hindus from all parts of the world visit the place to offer their devotion to the god Agni. This brings a vast amount of sums to the temple.

When the Indians make war upon them and endeavor to seize the idol, the inhabitants bring it out, pretending that they will break it and burn it. Upon this the Indians retire, otherwise, they would destroy Multan. Sachidananda Hullahalli (talk) 06:38, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sources from the British Raj are not considered reliable on wikipedia (see WP:RAJ). RegentsPark (comment) 13:36, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 June 2024
There is a detail description of this city in the Book "The History of India, as Told by Its Own Historians" by by Henry Miers Elliot & John Dowson in page 96-97 I would like to giver more detail on the city Sachidananda Hullahalli (talk) 07:15, 19 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Under the History section after the first paragraph I would like to add more information about the city
 * After [Umayyad conquest of Sindh] Multan was ruled by Arabs. There is a detailed description of this city in the book [The_History_of_India,_as_Told_by_Its_Own_Historians]" by by Henry Miers Elliot & John Dowson. This is the largest city bordering Sindh & China [page 96].  [Multan Sun Temple] is dedicated to lord Agni(the sun god).  It is a [Theertha kshetra |Tirtha (Hinduism)]for Hindus, as sacrate as Mecca for muhammadans.  Ruler of Multan used this temple to defend the city against Indians.  When Indians tried to take the city then the idol will be bought to the battlefield and threaten to burn or broke it.  The Ruler of Multan didn't destroyed the the temple as it brings large annual Sums by the infidel [P96-97] Sachidananda Hullahalli (talk) 07:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

In The Mayor's Section Here, It Is Written That It Is Vacant, But In Reality, The Mayor Of Multan is Sheikh Abdul Wahab from 26th March, 2024
144.48.134.106 (talk) 12:30, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 17:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)