Talk:Pro Evolution Soccer 2008

Wii version
The Wii version will be released in the first quarter of 2008 (That's January-March) in order to improve it more; As Konami said that this version wil be released until is considered appropiate for distribution. Too bad I cannot edit the page in order to put the "Q1 2008" Wii release date and the Wii Remote in the input section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.160.9.207 (talk) 01:19, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thanks for the Wii release date! But the Wii Remote input isn't still written... And one question ¿Will the Wii will be an improved port of PS2, a (slightly) graphically downgraded port of PS3/360/PC, both ports with a new control system, or will be started from scratch? The edit feature is great, and will be sad if they remove it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.160.9.207 (talk) 15:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

The official release date of the Wii version is the 28/03/2008 (88.109.107.19 (talk) 02:44, 7 January 2008 (UTC))

The Wii version is now out and i feel should have at least its own section as the new control system is completely different. the modes and set-up have also changed somewhat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.231.155 (talk) 02:02, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll add more info concerning the Wii version, but I strongly feel it should get a separate article, because it is radically different and made by a completely new team. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NSider (talk • contribs) 15:40, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

PS3 Problems
There is an article on Konami's official website which confirms the PS3 version suffer's from online lag and other problems.

"We have uncovered issues which affect online gameplay quality of PES 2008. We are working at full strength to find a solution as quickly as possible. We sincerely apologize for this inconvenience." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssb9 (talk • contribs) 09:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Classic/Hidden Player Info Page
Link needs to be added somewhere

Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 Classic Players

Update needed!!!
This page is filled with wrong information! Almost none of these confirmed teams are really in the game! And the game was already released, this warning can be removed! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.52.190.112 (talk) 21:40, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

KONAMI LIED
http://www.winningelevenblog.com/2007/10/visual-proof-of-all-teams-in-pes-2008.html

DOZENS OF TEAMS ARE MISSING! são paulo, boca... Konami lied to us all this time??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.81.227.28 (talk) 17:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Serbia
Should it be noted that Serbia are actually "replacing" Serbia and Montenegro? I know the team will be basically the same, but all the same, its a change. Thom32

Serbia is not replacing Serbia & Montenegro as Serbia and Montenegro are now two separate contries and therefore players are not the same while most of them are playing for Serbia some of them like Mirko Vucinic are playing for Montenegro. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.228.74.13 (talk) 10:04, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Size
Is this game really going to be 36 GB in size? Sounds a little off to me. Phs1234 21:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)GHJTHJERYJERYJERYJEJERJEWRTY364UTHUT4RUYHRTHTRHRHTRHRTH
 * I agree. The reason they say that is because of the Blu-ray. No developer will be using that size for a long time, though, especially as that would require EIGHT discs for the PC version (which wouldn't be much of a problem due to installation, though the space might be), and likewise for the 360 version. Which would mean an awful lot of disc-swapping.
 * Anyway, I removed the speculation as per WP:OR and WP:CRYSTAL. --Dreaded Walrus t c 14:16, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No this is BS, even on the PS2 it only used 2GB.

PES 7
why isnt the game called PES 7? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.49.207.126 (talk • contribs).
 * Probably because they don't want to end up like Final Fantasy, a decade from now, with Pro Evolution Soccer 16. Aside from that (and the ability to have a title that the public can easily put side to side with EA's FIFA series), I couldn't really say. --Dreaded Walrus t c 04:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it could be to do with the fact that the japanese version, winning eleven, would have been called winning eleven 11 this time, and that sounds stupid. Chubbyman9 15:37, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * That does sound stupid lol! I think that this will be immense. Have you seen the GameSpot news on it? Clicky ¡иąтнąи! | Talk | [mailto:nathan@simpedia.co.uk Email]| 07:29, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Release
Is there a valid source to the displayed release date of Oct. 26th because if not it should be removed as it's misleading.

PLAY.COM confirms the game is due for release on the 26/10/07 Craig Map 21:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

- Strangely enough the game has still not been released(29th October) in Hungary (I thought that HU is part of EU). Nevertheless shops are full with FIFA 08 and tv is flooded with FIFA adverts...i guess people here are in love with FIFA...yeah it has hungarian commentary in it..so what ?! They told me they ll be getting PES 2008 some time in November?!!

- I heard somewhere that it's been pushed back until January for the PSP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.77.189.222 (talk) 16:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

- I was looking around on Amazon the other day and it looks like the American release date for this game on all platforms is March 11. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ Stan 5280 (talk • contribs) 23:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

- Correct - NA release date for all platforms should be 03/11/08 rather than 3/31/08 Bfurderer (talk) 21:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
The constant vandalism on this page is getting out of hand. Is there any way to prevent it from happening so often? (Whitecyda 12:28, 17 August 2007 (UTC))


 * Is that why there was a strange duplicate external link to the winning eleven blog? I'll remove it --Timjbart 09:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Another Page
there is another page for this game that was created later than this one, and is basically just a copy. is there any way of somebody deleting it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Evolution_7

Cbailey3000 22:02, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Why is the English league on the confirmed list considering it hasn't actually been confirmed. There are only 2 licensed English teams at this stage, if you're going to put that in the list then you might as well add "Belgian league - 2 teams licensed, Turkish league - 3 teams licensed". If its not been confirmed then it shouldn't be in the confirmed list! --82.27.238.163 23:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Licensed teams
The source we have for them at the moment isn't trustworthy, it was the supposed clubs konami wanted at that time. Newcastle will surely be licensed since Owen is confirmed as a cover athlete. Peoples opinions on this? →  j acĸrм  ( talk  |   sign  ) 10:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I saw an interview with Darren Bent on Sky Sports News today, and whilst it's not related at all, he was shown playing what was a version Pro Evoultion Soccer, with one of the badges on his screen being none other than: Newcastle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.218.163 (talk) 23:48, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps we should delete all "confirmed licensed teams" as they are not actually confirmed yet. →  j acĸrм  ( talk  |   sign  ) 19:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

THERE IS ONE FINNISH TEAM IN PES 2008 BUT IT IS NOT FC HONKA. IT IS HJK. THERE IS REFERENCE: [] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.181.175.177 (talk) 15:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Per Jackrm i do not see a Blog as a good enough source, the source should really be from Konami, and i am aware the blog has a link to justify the list but unless you didn't notice that is just another blog. El-  Nin  09  20:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 05:05, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

There are some new videos and images updated at .. But I don't really know the language there.. Can anyone have a view there and try to update the wiki article? Perhaps, they're some new things inside... --Drikson7 14:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

There's not really anything new there. -Oct 9, 2007

Stadia for PS3/360/PC
I am a bit worried that the ports for the "higher end" platforms have not as many stadia as the PS2 version, will this be the final case or is that list on the main page incomplete? 89.243.251.44 19:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

-- JoshuaRobertAnderson: Nope, it's correct. 15 for the 'next-gen' versions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JoshuaRobertAnderson (talk • contribs) 02:27, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Teatro Blanco
I believe the Teatro Blanco in the game is the counterpart of the Casa Blanca Stadium in Ecuador... since it is located in south America this could be the reason... it could be the stadium for the Ecuadorian national team and their increasing success... if in the game the stadium has a capacity of around 55,000 then it definately has to be the Casa Blanca —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.136.43.120 (talk) 19:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Updated Australian Release Date
The same source lists 8th November as Aussie release date. Please change! http://au.playstation.com/games_media/release_schedule.jhtml

Is Latvia in the PES2008?
In internet the list of countries include Latvia. Is Correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.31.11.137 (talk) 15:21, 19 October 2007 (UTC) --Latvian boy 15:24, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Ronaldinho isnt in the game?
I read on gamespot that Ronaldinho isn't in the game, does anyone know if this is true? --User:retrojunkies_retro_junkies 15:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Where did you read this? I'm pretty sure Ronaldinho will be in the game. There won't just be a gap in Brazil and Barcelona's squads where Ronaldinho should be. —  j acĸrм  ( talk ) 14:21, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Well he's in the xbox 360 demo for Brazil. 86.141.188.137 00:12, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

fonejacker
is it real or just an idiot being an idiot as they always are ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.214.46.36 (talk) 13:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Game play for PS3
I have just read a review for the PS3 I'm gutted!!!

PES's PS3 debut stumbles far too often

The bitter battle between fans of the two next generation consoles can at times be a nasty exchange. Supporters of Microsoft's Xbox 360 take great pleasure in pointing out, at every opportunity, the PS3's failings - the lack of exclusive triple-A games, the high price and the late ports. The PS3 camp claims a more powerful console, HD movie playback built in and the ability to fit more on a Blu-ray disc compared with a DVD. But one thing that PS3 and 360 fans alike must admit is that developers are, on the whole, finding it hard to get to grips with Sony's console. Some have pointed out the complexity of the system, while others speak of issues with the way the console handles memory. Either way, we have seen some very high-profile PS3 games that have suffered from slow-down, less than impressive graphics and glaring drops in frame rate. Unfortunately nowhere is this more apparent than in Pro Evolution Soccer's debut on the PS3.

Put simply, the game suffers from horrible slowdown and drops in frame rate that happen too frequently to ignore. The first thing we did when we booted up the game was start a two-player exhibition match between Newcastle (one of two licensed English teams, the other being Tottenham) and Barcelona. We randomized the stadium and the weather effects. It turned out we played in Estadio Da Luzii in the rain, in the wide view of course, and this is what we experienced.

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Whenever the ball gets more than a few feet above head height, you'll notice the frame rate drop to worrying levels. Goal replays are a jerky mess. The game will slow down to what feels like a snail's pace whenever more than half of the players are on screen at the same time. There's quite significant and frequent tearing too. Perhaps you can get used to the slowdown, if you play long enough. But the annoying thing is that when the game inexplicably and implausibly slows down, it puts you off your timing. Well-timed sliding tackles turn into dangerous lunges, and, with the new super harsh refs, usually result in a red card. Split second decision making and well-judged shots are made almost impossible when the penalty area is crowded because the game engine suffers a stroke. PES has always had issues with slowdown, but I'm sad to say that PES 2008 on PS3 is the worst for it in the series. Quite frankly, this isn't the next generation, silky smooth, high-definition interactive experience PS3 owners were promised when they handed over their hard-earned cash.

We were so shocked by the slowdown and frame rate problems that we dropped the resolution from 720p to standard to see if it had any effect. All it did was take the HD sheen off proceedings. Then we tried using the AV lead the PS3 comes bundled with to see if that helped. The only difference here was the graphics looked even worse than they do normally. Stunned, we plugged the HDMI cable back in and put the resolution back up to 720p just to give the game one, last chance. PES has given us so much pleasure down the years that it at least deserved that. We set up a game just as before, in the rain, in the same stadium and with wide view, and we experienced the same problems again.

... graphically the game is distinctly average. In a wide view (the view any serious PES player plays in) that game looks poor compared with the same view in Fifa 08. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.127.24.69 (talk) 14:35, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

The game doesn't work on Windows XP64
Well... that's pretty much it. Except if you edit the .msi file with Microsoft's Orca... but that's another story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.181.35.144 (talk) 19:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Missing Stadiums
Ville Marie Stadium = LUZHNIKI STADIUM (Moscow, Russia)

Mohamed Lewis stadium = STADE FELIX HOUPHOUET-BOIGNY (Abidjan, Ivory Coast)

Teatro Blanco = ESTADIO CASA BLANCA (Quito, Ecuador)

???

(81.246.241.163 14:52, 27 October 2007 (UTC))

Critisicm
There is no reference to this section, there should be links to some official reviews like IGN, etc. Also I also don't see any proof that this game has been bashed by everyone, and there appears to be some difference between the PS3 performance and XBOX 360 performance offline (whose online peformance definately is poor). Needs to be re written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.149.226 (talk) 10:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

The PS3 version has received a number of poor reviews, ie 6.0 from Gamespot, and so if somebody has the time, please re-add it and put it in a way that will mean that somebody can't justify removing it. Konami should be particularly ashamed of how it mislead PS2 users, as the Pro Evolution 2008 PS2 version is simply a modified version of Pro Evolution 6 (basically only the menus/teams have been updated), without any of the "new" features such as Teamvision AI, Diving or Shirt Pulling. If you want widespread criticism by fans, check the amazon.co.uk pages for example, or indeed jeez any gaming site. I'm so dissappointed by the PS2 version as are a number of other fans (I own the PC version as well so can vouch for the absolute difference in quality) that I can't be bothered going and getting all the links, but if somebody else can, they aren't hard to find. Rather than a criticism section, these points should go in the "reception" section though, as Wikipedia encourages us not to use criticism sections. One thing I do agree on though is the fact that the PS3 version hasn't been slated by all, and many fans such as myself are actually impressed with it. I'd say its the PS2 version mainly that needs commented on. I mean jeez how did Konami actually get away with that? --Simonski 12:56, 3 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm surprised no one has mentioned the conflict of interest, in that IGN advertises in-game and "surprisingly" the IGN website gives it 9.0 . This is despite the consensus amongst fans that game hasn't really improved. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.12.25.4 (talk) 11:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * The XBOX 360 version is buggy, replays are jerky and unwatchable, but more than that the live mode is completely unplayable with the ball floating around at random then catching up with itself. Sometimes ending up with the ball in the net, then correcting itself  by taking the ball back out of the net again and giving a corner for example. The game just wasn't finished.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.8.45 (talk) 16:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, Konami has been getting away with that for years now, they always use the same old trick of taking out an essential feature and re-introducing it latter as a new feature. In short, PES has been exactly the same game for some 4 years now. Anyways, Konami ripped people off with the PS2 version -however- the PS3 deserves all the negative criticism, PES 2008 on PS3 is the most boring game on the market, it is not football, it is definitely not next gen, and it is by far the most disappointing game of the year. (Luis, Spain)

game mistakes
Igor Burzanović (Red Star Belgrade), former captain of Montenegro national football team is registered as a Serbian player.

FK Crvena Zvezda/Red Star Belgrade is named "FC Red Star Beograd" (name in English for Beograd is Belgrade)

(minor mistake) Simon Vukčević (Sporting Portugal) has in real life name on the strip "Simon" instead of "VUKCEVIC". Stefke (talk) 21:31, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

=Database=

The game is not accurate as of 31st of August. There are many inaccuracies. For instance, Newcastle United still have Solano, and lack Habib Beye, both of whom moved some time before August 31st.

not the UK cover
this artical shows a ps3 copy of the game and says the UK version, this is definalty incorrect, please correct it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.69.32.43 (talk) 21:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Is that boca junior´s cover of the game truth?I think that somebody has modified the original cover.That´s not the UK cover..at least. Gonzaloges (talk) 00:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

I removed "UK". It's used in the Netherlands, but I have no clue which player it is. It's probably used everywhere, except in the 5 listed countries. Globe-trotter (talk) 18:36, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

That is the UK cover. That is Michael Owen. 24.236.89.246 (talk) 22:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

NA release date
The north america release date is wrong. It is coming out on all platforms besides Wii on March 11, 2008. 24.236.89.246 (talk) 22:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Bristol Mary Stadium
This Stadium looks nothing like the Millennium Stadium, so this link needs removing, besides Bristol is in England and the Millennium Stadium is in Wales, I don't think Konami would get involved in nationalities in this way.82.20.8.185 (talk) 09:07, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Erm, KONAMI arent saying its in Bristol. Its just the name of the stadium —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.42.74.186 (talk) 17:30, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

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