Talk:Sonic Rivals 2

Two New Characters?
Do they mean two characters that weren't playable in the first one, like Amy and Rouge (as hypothetical examples) or do they mean two completely new ones that are going to be introduced to the series in this game? 206.66.217.140 20:52, 21 June 2007 (UTC) Bold text

Well, going by how all playable characters in the original Sonic Rivals had already appeared in prior Sonic games, the two new characters are probably characters who have appeared in past Sonic games but were not playable in Sonic Rivals, but I could easily be wrong. Michael Mad 16:53, 23 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Considering the fact that they actually said three new characters, one of which being Tails, I'd have to say that all the characters are already-made ones. Nothing indicated brand new characters, just characters new to Sonic Rivals. --Ultima 17:22, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I think since Jet was not in Secret rings this would be a great game to return him to the series and I thought Metalsonic was playable in the first rivals and I think the other may be a new character

Your Jet suggustion counts as speculation. BassxForte 00:07, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

what does that mean67.141.17.71 13:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)Sonicrules3

That they can't be used. Michael Mad 19:25, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I know Jet is in it

Well, sorry, but you have to have proof(i.e., a reliable source) that backs up your claim. Michael Mad 18:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

It may be a possibility Jet might return but since there's no proof, we can't assume. Signed-- A big Tails Fan 12:22 PM July 8th 2007

Espio has recently been revealed. I think the eighth rival will either be Vector or Jet. - B.J.

I think it would be cool to see, however it is unlikely, Super Sonic make and appearance and maybe Super Shadow and Super Silver, though as i've said its probably unlikely. S-m-r-t 10:48, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Just saying "unlikly" doesn't mean putting your opinions on the talk page isn't speculation. BassxForte 00:55, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

I never said it wasn't speculation i just thought it would be cool S-m-r-t 09:41, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

It's good that you like the game enough to speculate about it, but we don't do that on talk pages, feel free to bring up your opinions on your own userpage. BassxForte 23:39, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Story
While looking through the page for this game at the Sega of America site, it reveals the first bit of story regarding it. It reads "The Chao seem to be disappearing and all eight rivals must work to find out who is behind it". Thet merits an edit, although the thing I find the most intresting, is that this would mean Metal Sonic is not connected to the person behind the disappearing, because you have to have him to make eight. BassxForte 00:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

That's funny. When I checked the main game page at Sega, I saw NOTHING about the story. Sonicmaster1223 19:35, 27 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Look again. It is under "Features, Intriguing new story." Although for the time, it is very simplistic. Tails0600 02:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC) By the way, I did add that in an edit July 19th. Tails0600 02:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I would have answered that earlier, but I couldn't acess wikipedia for quite some time. (How a 3RR violation justifies a 31 day block, i'll never know) BassxForte 00:59, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, Welcome back! That does sound like it stunk though. Anyway, you haven't really missed too much on this article. 74.212.5.83 02:28, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Until I get my hands on this game this page will stay on my watchlist and vandilism won't last long on this page as long as i'm unblocked, but the main articles I want to maintain and improve are this one and this one. BassxForte 03:09, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

More Story
Will someone please write more of the story on the Sonic Rivals 2 article?-- User:Mark Alvarez I'm serious.--User:Mark Alvarez

The Return of the 4kids Voice Cast
The 4kids voice cast is apparently returning for this game after seeing some gameplay footage. Mariofan 18:05, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Those are recycled clips. 74.122.176.30 22:28, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Wait a minute, that didn't sound recycled, I never even heard that before. (UTC) Maybe you just didn't listen careful enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.37.140.79 (talk) 21:43, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Since when?
I just checked the page,and it said that Espio i playable.As much as i would love that,it will most likely be Cream,and Amy.(Just guessing.)If Espio is confirmed,i want some proof.Thank you.SLJCOAAATR

Fixed.I erased the sectulation.Whoever did it can't even spell Espio's species correct.-SLJCOAATR

Since gamespot posted a pic, and also confirmed Metal Sonic for those who were actually stupid enough to doubt it XDGrandMasterGalvatron 01:40, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

First I added a reference so next time check the link,Segundo I spelled Espio the Chameleon right however when I see you type I can say you don't know how to proprely spell. HolyNightmare 05:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Cream
Who thinks Cream should be the 8th character?I mean,she'd fit right in with the storyline.-SLJCOAAATR

One, that's speculation. Two, I highly doubt that Cream would be the eighth character. There is absolutely no way she qualifies as Sonic's rival.MegaWhatt 23:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * But then, why is Tails in there? He isn't Sonic's Rival. Maybe just a name? I never played the first one. (I don't own PSP) Tails0600 02:40, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Tails is Sonic's best friend, and for a long time dreamed of becoming just like Sonic, before apparently realizing that he had to be himself. His theme songs for the Sonic Adventure series backs this up. Tails learned how to propel himself by spinning his tails just to keep up with Sonic. That said, if anyone were to become another rival of Sonic's, it would be Tails, and it would make perfect sense that Tails might want to compete against Sonic for a change. Since you never played the first one, you wouldn't know that it started out as a friendly competition between Sonic and Knuckles. And even if somebody starts out as a friend or enemy, that doesn't mean they can't become a rival in time. Look at the other playable characters from Sonic Rivals 1: Knuckles (Has been both an enemy and friend to Sonic), Shadow (Was an enemy, now is an ally), Silver (Although misled, was an enemy in Sonic the Hedgehog, then an ally), and Metal Sonic (Enemy of Sonic's through and through). After all, Silver wasn't one of Sonic's rivals before Sonic Rivals, but they put him in it. As for Cream, she and Sonic barely even know each other. At least in Espio's case, it makes sense, since both are Speed type characters. That said, if I had to wager a guess, I would suggest Jet the Hawk as a possible candidate.MegaWhatt 22:47, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

One. Your Jet comment is still speculation and two. Jet was skilled on a board, not on foot. BassxForte 01:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC)


 * To reply to that... One, it was a guess, and I didn't add it, so you don't have to point out that it's speculation every time somebody makes a passing remark about their opinion if they didn't add it to the article. Two, when the character's boards run out of air, they're all running at approximately the same speed, meaning that Jet may be skilled on foot as well.MegaWhatt 02:34, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... Cream eh? That would be quite the barrier smasher there if she is playable but I doubt it (sadly). I also doubt that Jet will be in it as well because I think that he playable only in the riders series and will probably stay that way too.Wolly da wanderer 02:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Everyone ran at about the same speed in Riders, so as of now one can't say that Jet was fast or slow, and right now there's no good reason to believe he was fast on foot. BassxForte 03:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I just get the feeling Cream will either be playable,or play a large role.Oh,and,Sonic knows Cream more than he does Espio.SLJCOAAATR

SLJCOAAATR might want to look at this. BassxForte 22:29, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Well,fine i'll end this,but,if anything about Cream pops up,this continues.Okay?Just please,trust me.-SLJCOAAATR

Cream isn't known for her speed, the last character would likly be either Amy or Blaze, but that's just my opinion. BassxForte 03:13, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Amy,and Blaze being possibilites as well,but,Knuckles isn't all that fast,and Silver was REALLY,REALLY SLOW in Sonic Nex-Gen.Tails has also been sped up quite a bit it looks like,so,who's to say that they can't speed up Cream,or even Eggman (on foot.).Not trying to start a fight here,or anything.Just sharing what i think.I'm thinking the final character will be among these few:Cream (To find Cream,and the other chao.)Amy (Just to be around Sonic.)Blaze(Hoping that in search of the chao,she'll be a better friend to Cream,and find Silver who she has very vauge memories of after the events of Sonic Nex-Gen.)Rouge(Has been assigned the mission to find the chao by G.U.N.).Those are all just possibilites.Although i still wonder why Shadow gives a care about the chao,(Unless somebody who's involved in a new mystery about him did it.)and why Espio,and Metal are there as well.I guess Cream could've hired Espio,and Metal will be a secret character again?-SLJCOAAATR

Look, this is kinda speculation but my belief is...


 * Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles. Cream asked them to find the chao.
 * Shadow. G.U.N. is concerned about the chao-nappings so Rouge asks Shadow to find out whats going on.
 * Silver. I can't give a good reason for Silver to be here.
 * Espio. Was hired by G.U.N. to help Shadow.
 * Metal Sonic. Possibly trying to copy the chao data again. BassxForte 16:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

That's actually a pretty good theory!-SLJCOAAATR

Sonic:Goes out to just save the day,...again...PLAYABLE

Tails:Goes to help Sonic.PLAYABLE

Knuckles:Follows his classic rivaly with Sonic.PLAYABLE

Silver:When Blaze disappears,Silver finds Eggman-Nega with san extinct species known as "Chao".He decides to go to the past to protect the final chao (Chesse),but he discovers that he is too late when finds Cream crying about someone who looked like Eggman kidnapping Cheese,and leaving behind a card containing Vanilla.PLAYABLE

Shadow:Gets a transmission from the G.U.N. Commander (who's name is revealed to be Lulu.LOL) informing him about the chao.PLAYABLE

Espio:Hired by a mysterious person to help find the chao,and the beings of the planet who are disappearing as well.PLAYABLE

Amy:Goes to help Cream find Cheese and a way to turn Vanilla back to normal.PLAYABLE THROUGH MULTI-PLAYER,AND CHALLENGE MODE (Much like Metal in S.R.1)

Cream:Goes out in search for Cheese,Chocola,and a way to save her mom,with Amy's help.PLAYABLE

Vector:Turned into a card.SAME AS AMY.

Charmy:Turned into a card.SAME AS AMY.

Cheese:Chao-napped by the games villian.After the villian is done with the chao,he/she turns them all into cards and scatters them around the planet.NON-PLAYABLE

Chocola:SAME AS CHESSE

Vanilla:The only one who knows who the games villan is but,was turned into a card at the last minute before able to warn anybody.SAME AS AMY.

Blaze:Disappeared much like the chao.Once and a while she sends a clue to any random person.She later saves Cream's mom from being permanently turned into a card.PLAYABLE

Eggman-Nega:Actually tried to save the chaout,is mistaken as the real culprit,and is vaporized by the real villian.SAME AS AMY

Eggman:The first one turned into a card.He ends up being rescued my Metal.SAME AS AMY.

Metal Sonic:Worked with the villian untill the very end where he saves Eggman,and he's DNA becomes combined with the villians to become a new villian.SAME AS AMY

Jet:Once rescued from being a card,he gives Shadow vital info. about the where-abouts of the chao.SAME AS AMY.

Rouge:Rescued by Shadow half through his story.She apparently has an Omega card.SAME AS AMY.

Omega:Turned into a card by the villian.His card is later found by Rouge who gets trapped by traitor of G.U.N. trying to save him.At the end he destroys the genorater that was going to bring an old enemy back to life.SAME AS AMY

Peter:A G.U.N. agent who is secretly helping the games villian so that his life will be spared during the invasion.He is later turned into a card to power a genorater to bring an old foe back.NON-PLAYABLE

Lulu:He informs Shadow of the disappearing chao.NON-PLAYABLE

Bestova:The only living Black Arms soldier.Peter,and Metal work with him to collect the chao to power a genorater that will bring Black Doom back to life.He sends Metal to turn everyone into cards so that no one can get in his way.When Metal discovers that he will be killed by Black Doom,tries to stop Bestova,but,the DNA of the 2 combine when struck by a laser that shoots out when Omega destroys the genorator.SAME AS AMY

Black Arm Lord Over-Metal-Tova:A monstorous beast that's a combo of Metal,Bestova,and the chaos emeralds.He will stop at nothing to ressurect Black Doom.When Eggman-Nega tries to stop him,E.N. ends up vaporized.NON-PLAYABLE

Black Doom:Ressurected by the ARK being in the way of the moon,and a part of the Black Comet floating ahead of it,and using the crystal heart of the monsterous beast to send his body through.He kills his minion,and sets his revenge for Shadow.SAME AS AMY

Super Sonic:Fights to save Earth from Black Doom's wrath.Only in Final Story.

Super Shadow:SAME AS S.S.

Super Silver: SAME AS S.S.

The characters that have:SAME AS AMY,this is only true when a specific objective is completed.So,whadd'ya think?-SLJCOAAATR

I may have to delete some stuff if this keeps up, the discussion is meant to be used for improving the page, not for discussing the content itself. And... yes, I know i'm guilty of using the page like that too. BassxForte 21:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about me for I'm taking out the comments about Silver and Shadow that I made and the responses.Wolly da wanderer 02:50, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah,i got pretty carried away...-SLJCOAAATR —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

So,Rouge is the final one.-SLJCOAAATR —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Are u sure Rouge is playable? Because it was only a boxart used 4 advertisement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.23.177 (talk) 17:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Dude,that's the real cover!-SLJCOAAATR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.114.189 (talk) 23:51, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

But then why hasn't SEGA confirmed it?

Have they confirmed Espio themselves?NO!-SLJCOAAATR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.114.189 (talk) 21:25, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Espio was shown on an image, so he will be one of the 3 new rivals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.23.177 (talk) 20:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

DUDE!GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!Rouge,Espio,and Tails are the new characters!!!!!!!!!-SLJCOAAATR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.114.189 (talk) 22:01, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Espio
He is not fast!

Deleted "Characters" and "Stages" section
Before anyone freaks out, let me explain why. The "Characters" section was pointless, because all the confirmed characters were listed in the first paragraph of the article. No need to list them again. Besides, people just kept vandalizing that section, slipping names in there that aren't true.

And as for the stages section. There is only one confirmed stage, so there doesn't need to be a stages section yet. For that, wait till the game comes out.

I thank ye -- POWERSLAVE  05:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree with what you did.Some retared vandel kept putting Wario as a characer,and Wario's Castle as a stage.I was at it (deleating this and other stuff the vandel put.) for about 2 hours yesterday.As fast i could correct it,he/she added it again!-SLJCOAAATR

People are so stubbon and silly they will do anything to get a thrill even at the torment of others.Wolly da wanderer 02:43, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

It's like this with almost all unreleased products. BassxForte 18:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Random!
Okay! Who ever put the info on this page about a character being killed off better have some proof or that comment will be deleted. That is all.Wolly da wanderer 02:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm a large Sonic fan, and I never heard anything about it. BassxForte 03:40, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Same here,same here -SLJCOAAATR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.114.189 (talk) 21:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Boxshot
So everyone knows, I added a boxshot from the Sega PressVault website. This is for the PEGI version as of now. Tails0600 03:53, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Mmmm... can you give me a link to where you found this boxart? BassxForte 04:12, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I could, but problem is, you need a username and password to sign in. www.sega-press.com | Sega PressVault Tails0600 16:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

ALthough not certian, you may be able to get it here too: www.segapr.segaamerica.com Tails0600 16:46, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I see ther picture's been changed because mine isn't fair-use, how is THIS ONE any different, Hm? Tails0600 01:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks like it's in a higher quality. BassxForte 02:09, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey, is the character art there too?GrandMasterGalvatron 03:04, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * No, there is no character artwork. Just boxshots. Sorry. Tails0600 03:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC) MAybe it is a higher quality picture, didn't pay attention to it. Tails0600 03:43, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Advertisement
I added the advertisement template because most of the article (especially the "features" subheading) was worded like an advertiesment. Could someone please rewrite the article? --Lando5 (sign/talk) 00:11, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Done...well the offending section anyway. The others hardly had anything to them.GrandMasterGalvatron 01:07, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Up Date
This article needs updating. It was released today and hardly any changes have been made. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.187.97 (talk) 20:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I just came from Toysrus to pick up this game,and SMG but,they told me that this game doesn't come out untill MARCH 2008!!!!!!-SLJCOAAATR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.186.99.218 (talk) 23:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

What the Family Guy?! The guy who told you this must be trippin. I could have sworn that it was released yesterday —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.187.107 (talk) 19:52, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Plot lacks detail
Where is the plot on this thing! I would like to know what happens to the charaters people!Wolly da wanderer (talk) 23:01, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Plot lacks detail 2
I think that this article needs more of a storyline about Sonic Rivals 2.--User:Mark Alvarez
 * Thanks to whoever added more detail to the storyline.-- User:Mark Alvarez —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.112.15 (talk) 23:00, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Sonic Rivals 2 release
Sonic Rivals is already out for the PAL region, not December but Novemeber the 11th.

Missing characters
I noticed that the following characters are missing from the NPC list: Ghost Sonic Ghost Tails Omochao Chao

I just got the game on X-mas Eve,i beat Tails,Knux,and Rouge,close to beating Sonic. I think that other characters might appear Espio,Silver,Metal,and Shad. Should we list characters that are on cards only? Cause, there's Mephiles,Elise,Omega,Duke,Blaze,Biolizard,Blue Falcon,Diablon,and many others.-SLJCOAAATR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.229.233.168 (talk) 23:19, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Storyline
I'm willing to cooperate w/ ppl to a complete storyline. I have beaten sonic's storyline, close to beating Espio's story, along with Rogue's, and Silver's story. -Dudeaga Thur. 8:30 P.M. Oct. 8 2009

Review scores?
I don't know who the heck was mucking about with the review scores, but I corrected them. This game was getting about 6/10 on average, not 9/10. Luuthian (talk) 19:37, 8 July 2010 (UTC)