Talk:The Operative: No One Lives Forever

M rating
Later releases of the game had an M rating. Can anyone contribute the differences between the two versions? Brittany Ka (talk) 17:49, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Plot summary
I have started removing unncessary details and shortening the plot section of the article, in an effort to make it more concise. Nonetheless, even though the plot was highly detailed, I found that it was very well-written. Therefore, for archival purposes, and because it might be useful for some people, I have included the longer plot summary below:

--Mondotta (talk) 16:21, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Darkness2005's edits
Recently, Darkness2005 made several edits to the article, without giving any edit summaries. I don't agree with many of the changes (such as removal of content from the lead and the infobox), and asked for his reasons on his talk page. --Mondotta (talk) 16:47, 24 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I have reverted most of the changes. --Mondotta (talk) 03:49, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Current status of game
Does anyone know who presently owns the rights to the game and if there are any plans to release it so it works properly on modern machines? Garth M (talk) 09:51, 26 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Sadly, no one knows. Among the parties who could possibly own the rights, no one seems to be able to find them. Unless they suddenly turn up somewhere, it might well be that No One Lives Forever will never be re-released. Until 2095 that is, when its copyright lapses–but not if there will have been further copyright term extensions by then, of course, which I would highly expect. Unfortunately, that's the state of the media industries these days: conglomerates, which are managed so sloppily that they don't even know what copyrights they own anymore, lobbying politics to further obliterate the public's rights from copyright legislation. 89.217.23.123 (talk) 14:49, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

NOLF Trademark is owned by Night Dive Studios, I can prove it!
Cancelled trademark application!:

http://pastebin.com/h4n75kkt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.207.162 (talk) 15:53, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
 * We already have a source that affirms they got the trademark on NOLF and its sequels, and we know they want to remaster this, just that copyrights are limited factor. --M ASEM (t) 16:18, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

No One Lives Forever Revival Project
In 2017, both the original game and the sequel were made available with fan-made patches at the No One Lives Forever Revival Project.https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/07/05/no-one-will-sell-no-one-lives-forever-so-lets-download-it/ The link is to a media report of this, not to a copyright violation site. Mere linking to a media discussion of a murky copyright situation is not against Wikipedia rules.Oathed (talk) 17:18, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Its not a "murky" situation. We know from the work that Night Dive studios has done that the copyright is still owned by somebody, just that who truly owns it is not clear and of the three possible owners, the companies haven't bothered to make the effort to resolve it. But that means the copyright still exists, and as copyright can be enforced at any time we must presume it is fully valid, so per WP:ELNO linking to knowing copyright violations like that is disallowed. --M asem (t) 17:26, 2 August 2020 (UTC)