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Sukhoi grafitti at Solo
Dear Benny,

If, by chance, you'd know the authors of this grafitti, would you please be so kind to thank them from a friend in a very far away land?

If you don't know them or this is not possible for any other reason, I appreciate it the same.

Terima kasih! --MaeseLeon (talk) 02:49, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The grafitti signature is by Nik2 (Nik-nik) Foundation. I've never heard of them before, but I'll ask around to send them your message. I've also copied your message to commons:File talk:Sukhoi crash grafitti in Solo.jpg and File talk:Sukhoi crash grafitti in Solo.jpg, in case somebody read them. And since it made me happy that someone appreciate a photo that I took, I'll upload the details later today.
 * Bennylin (talk) 08:45, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you very very much, Sir. --MaeseLeon (talk) 03:12, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

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We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.

However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.

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 * Thank you for coordinating this. Appreciate it. Bennylin (talk) 12:33, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Chittagong
Hi Bennylin! I saw your username in WP:LOCEMB as a representative from the Javanese Wikipedia. Can you please create an article of Chittagong in Javanese? Thanks -- Zayeem (talk) 16:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * All right, I'll try to do it tomorrow. Remind me again if I forget :) Bennylin (talk)
 * Thanks, do it when you are free! :) -- Zayeem (talk) 10:28, 18 January 2013 (UTC):)
 * jv:Chittagong as I promised :) And as a bonus, a post on jv.wp's Facebook page :D. Regards, Bennylin (talk)
 * The photo looked beautiful in the post! Thanks a lot bro! :) -- Zayeem (talk) 16:57, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No, the nature that God has made, that is your city, is beautiful at the first place. One can only capture it to the best of one's ability, and I'm merely a tool of which that lake is displayed through a nicely cropped image in a social media we call Facebook. Bennylin (talk) 19:24, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

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VisualEditor
Hey Bennylin

I'm sending you this because you've made quite a few edits to the template namespace in the past couple of months. If I've got this wrong, or if I haven't but you're not interested in my request, don't worry; this is the only notice I'm sending out on the subject :).

So, as you know (or should know - we sent out a centralnotice and several watchlist notices) we're planning to deploy the VisualEditor on Monday, 1 July, as the default editor. For those of us who prefer markup editing, fear not; we'll still be able to use the markup editor, which isn't going anywhere.

What's important here, though, is that the VisualEditor features an interactive template inspector; you click an icon on a template and it shows you the parameters, the contents of those fields, and human-readable parameter names, along with descriptions of what each parameter does. Personally, I find this pretty awesome, and from Monday it's going to be heavily used, since, as said, the VisualEditor will become the default.

The thing that generates the human-readable names and descriptions is a small JSON data structure, loaded through an extension called TemplateData. I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'd be willing and able to put some time into adding TemplateData to high-profile templates. It's pretty easy to understand (heck, if I can write it, anyone can) and you can find a guide here, along with a list of prominent templates, although I suspect we can all hazard a guess as to high-profile templates that would benefit from this. Hopefully you're willing to give it a try; the more TemplateData sections get added, the better the interface can be. If you run into any problems, drop a note on the Feedback page.

Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:39, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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User:Yesus islam
What is the reason for your request. It is rare for a page to meet WP:CSD if the reason does not match one of the templated rationales. Dloh cierekim  18:38, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It has been deleted. Thanks. The user has been blocked globally, and basically he just copy-pasted from his article that was deleted in en.wp, and pretty much the content was abusive (in Indonesian language). Bennylin (talk) 10:31, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah, then WP:CSD for vandalism. Thanks for the info. Dloh cierekim  15:37, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hello Bennylin. As you are very active on id.wiki, I thought I let you know about the potential rollout date of September 24 for VisualEditor on your wiki. Thanks to User:Iwan Novirion, a lot of the interface and help documents have been translated. However, I need to post an update to the Indonesian Wikipedians about the upcoming date. Would you be able to help me with a bit of translation for the update? Best regards, PEarley (WMF) (talk) 00:36, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, absolutely :) Bennylin (talk) 05:13, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Bennylin, thanks for helping, and so quickly. I have posted your translation.  If you notice any problems with how VisualEditor handles Indonesian text, or unique templates that only exist on id.wiki, please let me know. PEarley (WMF) (talk) 16:00, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Will do. Bennylin (talk) 04:08, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Update on the update. Due to unforeseen issues, we are waiting until Sept. 30 to do the rollout.  If you can, I've left a probably googlemangled message on id.wiki, I wouldn't object to you fixing it ;). Cheers, PEarley (WMF) (talk) 00:45, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

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Happy New Year Bennylin!

 * Thank you! :D Bennylin (talk)

Karapan sapi
Hey Benny! Hope you're doing well. I just thought you might like to see the stub I made for karapan sapi. Since you speak Indonesian you probably know how to expand this article better than I do. Cheers, Steven Walling &bull; talk   21:48, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks Steven for starting this stub! I've added some information, and provided some backlinks. You might be interested to read about Pacu jawi (article currently only available on id.wp), a Minang tradition which looks like Karapan sapi, but originated in Western Sumatra. DYK that in some agrarian countries, this type of racing was originally done to make to soil more fertile? Bennylin (talk) 06:42, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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Transliterations
Iʻm fairly certain you created the webpage that transliterates the Latin script to Javanese. I was wondering if you would perhaps be able to do one for Balinese, and perhaps the other Indonesian scripts, as well. It would be much better than going from Unicode and copy-pasting letter by letter. DerekWinters (talk) 02:09, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Derek, thanks for your interest. I'm going to try it now. But since it will be based on Javanese, I hope our Balinese friends could take a look and correct me if some of the rules are wrong/different from the Javanese ones. Bennylin (talk) 13:13, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * For other scripts (Sundanese, etc.), I need someone knowledgeable enough to talk with first. So if there's other editors out there with the know-how, I'll be happy to make the transliteration tools in those script. Bennylin (talk) 13:24, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thereʻs one already out there for Sundanese (http://sabilulungan.org/aksara/). I'll see who I can contact for Balinese and the others, but Iʻm fairly certain that apart from Balinese, the scripts are not too complicated. For Rejang, all the sources show it to be a simple abugida but also with a couple final consonant diacritics. DerekWinters (talk) 15:24, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * OOT: After scratching my head because I've seen you around somewhere in the maze of the WMF projects, yet, you're profile page is still red here; now after you mentioned the Sundanese script transliterator, it dawned to me that you're the one at en.wikt moving Javanese and Sundanese lemmas to their respective scripts (in fact, I just browsed yesterday, puzzled who is this guy that knows about Sundanese script :D). I wanted to contact you at that time, because, as much as I wanted to see the script as the title of the page, still the fact remains that 1) not all people could read it, and it has been Latinized for so long now, it is now the de facto script of the Javanese language, 2) technically less than 50% of the browsers could display them properly (in the case of Javanese script), and 3) the ordering (if they ever get ordered, for example in the category page), is not what people expected; they would expect similar ordering like Latin (A-Z), or at least the "hanacaraka" ordering that we've learned for all our lives, but for God-know-what-reason, the people who submit the Javanese language to the Unicode Consortium decided to do what they did, and all convention was broken.
 * Now I don't know what the en.wikt policy about multiple scripts of the same word/lemma, but in jv.wikt, both scripts existed as separate page, that links to each other. There, the Javanese script-titled page/lemmas would have the definition written in Javanese scripts too, because that would be natural, as in the Javanese dictionary/encyclopedias that were published before the turn of the 20th century. Mixing local script title and Latin lemmas are quite confusing.
 * It seems to me, then, that you're looking for transliterator to do this kind of work for the Balinese language/script. While adding the script to the definition page would be commendable, but moving the whole page would create undesired confusion, in my opinion. Please reconsider them accordingly.
 * Meanwhile, work has been started on http://bennylin.github.io/transliterasijawa/bali.html and probably would be usable in one or two days, and while on that, have you seen http://dictionary.basabali.org/ yet? I think it's an amazing Wiktionary-like site. Bennylin (talk) 16:39, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh ok. I haven't seen the jv.wikt pages yet. I think then that I'll simply add the transliterations to pages on en.wikt. And dictionary.basabali.org is actually fantastic. Thank you very much.
 * Oh and also, I hope you don't think I'm some wannabe who doesn't know anything about the scripts. I have learned them, Javanese first simply out of curiosity and the others soon followed. The order I see on wiktionary resembles the standard ordering of all Brahmic scripts, but it still seems illogical to follow it considering the separate tradition the Javanese have followed. Would it be possible, perhaps, to alter the ordering that wiktionary uses? And for the murda forms for proper names whenever added, those could follow directly after their regular counterpart. I'm not certain where the swara would go, but I think in front would make most sense. Also the aksara rekan would have to go somewhere. DerekWinters (talk) 20:53, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you also do me a huge favor and help me with the pronunciation of the "for Chinese sounds" section of the aksara rekan bit at http://www.omniglot.com/writing/javanese.htm ? It's not very clear at all from what they have. DerekWinters (talk) 20:53, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Neophytes are warmly welcomed :D. It's true that the brahmic orderings (ka-ga-nga) still used in several scripts (i.e. Lampung script and Rejang script), but in Javanese and Balinese it's been largely obsolete/forgotten/replaced by the hanacaraka ordering. Now the Unicode decided to resurrect the ka-ga-nga ordering for Javanese/Balinese, and there's nothing that we could to to "unsort" them back to hanacaraka. Murda is more wacky, so let's avoid that topic for now, since wiktionary (I hope) would rarely use them. Swara in the front of the word are technically used for loanwords, either from Indonesian or from other languages. But that would require an authoritative source to list what words are still considered "foreign", and what foreign words have been fully absorbed; the good rule of thumb is that capital "A, E, I, O U" would get aksara swara (i.e. Agustus, Allah, etc., compare to other capital Latin that doesn't necessarily have to use the murda form: "September", "November", "Desember", etc.). As for Aksara rekan for Chinese, I myself are as confused as the person next to me... it's basically a crude transliteration table, largely incomplete and hugely not standard Chinese, therefore can't deal with modern Chinese words. Without a (Javanese-Chinese) word list, it's impossible to determine their pronounciation. For a better table, I've started with the work of transliterating all possible Chinese voices to Javanese script in id:wikt:Indeks:Pinyin-Aksara_Jawa I haven't used any special scripts, but in the future I probably would need them for certain voices that's not in basic Javanese script. Bennylin (talk) 16:57, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh see what I meant was to resort them on wiktionary only. Is that possible? DerekWinters (talk) 22:01, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Have you finished the Balinese transliterator yet? DerekWinters (talk) 19:12, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Some projects came up during last week, so it was postponed. But I managed to find a Balinese script guru at FB, so this week I'll try to consult to him for the transliterator. Stay tuned! :) Bennylin (talk) 09:04, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
 * That's great. Thanks! Also, can you do me a favor? After having dug around a while ago for Madurese dictionaries written using the Javanese script, I did find one (https://books.google.com/books?id=LvMUAAAAYAAJ&dq=Madoereesch-Nederlandsch+Woordenboek&source=gbs_navlinks_s). Based on it and http://madurese.lib.uiowa.edu/about/orthography.pdf (the 2008 orthography uses the convention devised by the H.N. Kiliaan, which he used in his 1904 dictionary(the one above)) I added the script here Madurese_language. Do you think you could verify it somehow? DerekWinters (talk) 05:34, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately I couldn't see the content of the book. (can you?) I can't confirm the phonology nor any written document of it, as I have almost never seen the Javanese script used in Madurese language in modern time. My information about this usage is solely from Wikipedia. (File:Raden_Segara_(Madurese_in_Javanese_script-published_in_1890)_(cropped).jpg). Without knowledge of the Madurese vocabulary, I can't decipher it (where's the wordsplit, etc.). Plus, you didn't source your information. Bennylin (talk) 16:15, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Derek, sorry I haven't been able to fulfill my promise, since I'm still lacking in knowledge on how Balinese script is differ from it's Javanese counterpart. But luckily, somebody sent a link about this ftp://std.dkuug.dk/jtc1/sc2/wg2/docs/n2908.pdf just recently, so now I'm eager to finish this again. I'll keep you posted up. Bennylin (talk) 13:25, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Re: Javanese Transliteration Project (follow-up)
Hi Bennylin,

Just wanted to follow-up - I would love to help out with your Javanese (and other Indonesian languages) transliteration project! Where is the project at right now, and what still needs to be done? Please let me know when you get the chance, thanks! Subbupedia95 (talk) 03:01, 3 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I didn't see the notice that you left a message in your talk page, sorry for that. I have left you a long reply, hope it will somehow help you start. You can call me Benny, that's fine :). You can also reply me here, because I'm used to back and forth messaging between talk pages. Hope to hear back from you soon. Bennylin (talk) 16:00, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Benny, Thanks for your patience and support. My semester just ended, so I have some time now to work on this. I took a look at the LanguageKk.php and other language converters there, and I think I could definitely come up with something like that for Javanese. It may be better to emulate Wikipedia's current transliterators instead of pointing it to your JS transliterator for the purposes of consistency and unity with other Wikimedia projects. I do have a few specific questions on Javanese script; do you have a good email I can reach you on (just for ease of communication)? If you would prefer not to leave it here, you can find my email on the Phabricator post that you found me on initially, and please feel free to contact me there. I will respond much faster, so we can make more progress. :) Are there any characters in the Javanese script that are etymology-specific? For example, could have a "syo" compound in a Sanskrit-derived word as well as a Chinese-derived word, in which case the word would need to be situationally transliterated? This would require a word-list. Your point on the Javanese manuscripts is also interesting to me; do you have an example where I can see it in print (just out of curiosity)? Please reply when you get the chance. Thanks! Subbupedia95 (talk) 23:57, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I've sent you my email address. Regarding your question, we could have "syo" by combining "sa"+"-y- (pengkal)"+"taling"+"tarung" = ꦱꦾꦺꦴ. Since it's phonetics, it could be used to write other languages, including Indonesian, English, Chinese, etc. (although there're some sounds in Chinese and English that can't be represented yet). For printed books of the script, look no further than commons:Early Javanese books that I curated. Bennylin (talk) 17:12, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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1257 eruption of Mount Samalas
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may I ask why you moved 1257 Samalas eruption to 1257 eruption of Mount Samalas? While I did sort of arbitrarily make up the original title it is used by a major source whereas the new one isn't, and usually (WP:COMMONNAME) the more commonly used name takes precedence. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:29, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your query, and sorry for not providing reason for the move. The reason I changed the title was because I saw two other eruption titled 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora and 1883 eruption of Krakatoa. Please correct me if I missed some title convention. Bennylin (talk) 20:04, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Below I searched and compiled list of similar titles. I can see there's two major title convention " eruption of " and " eruption"

Bennylin (talk) 20:12, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 2010 eruptions of Eyjafjallajökull
 * 2011 Nabro eruption
 * 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens
 * Eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 - this is an exception case
 * 2011 eruption of Grímsvötn
 * 2014–2015 eruption of Bárðarbunga
 * 2018 lower Puna eruption
 * 1886 eruption of Mount Tarawera
 * 2014–15 eruption of Fogo
 * 946 eruption of Paektu Mountain
 * 2011–12 El Hierro eruption
 * 2010 eruptions of Mount Merapi
 * 1888 eruption of Mount Bandai
 * 2017–2018 eruptions of Mount Agung
 * 2011 Puyehue-Cordón Caulle eruption
 * 2012 Kermadec Islands eruption
 * 2014 Mount Ontake eruption
 * 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo
 * 1955 Hawaiian submarine eruption
 * 1912 Novarupta eruption
 * 2014 Kelud eruption
 * 1985 eruption of Nevado del Ruiz
 * 2018 Volcán de Fuego eruption
 * 1452/1453 Kuwae eruption
 * Well, 1883 eruption of Krakatoa throws up more results than 1883 Krakatoa eruption and 1815 eruption of Mount Tambora more than 1815 Mount Tambora eruption so these names appear to follow COMMONAME. I actually don't know about any name convention for volcanic eruptions and WikiProject Volcanoes doesn't indicate anything either. From that and these titles it seems like there is no convention. I still think that in light of the usage numbers, that "1257 Samalas eruption" should be preferred in its specific case. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:21, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * You're more than welcome to correct my edit. Also, I've started Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Volcanoes in the WP Volcanoes. Bennylin (talk) 20:39, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Did so, I'll comment in that discussion. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:53, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Translate from Javanese?
Hi Bennylin, I saw you've edited the Javanese script article on English Wikipedia, so I thought I'd ask you... This StackExchange question asks for a translation of some Javanese text. Can you translate it? Can you transcribe the characters from the image into Unicode? If so, would you? I'd love to know what it says.

Even if you don't want to post on StackExchange, or if you can't help at all, please post some reply on User talk:Quuxplusone. Thank you very much in advance! --Quuxplusone (talk) 04:53, 22 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks!! I see that your cleaned-up transcription (in Javanese script) is still presented as an image rather than as Unicode text. Is there a particular reason for that? Could the text be "Unicode'd," or does it employ characters/elements that aren't available in Unicode? --Quuxplusone (talk) 13:48, 23 July 2019 (UTC)


 * For two reasons, the line breaks and the font choice. The default font for Windows 8.1 and above are different style than the one I chose (that's closer to the text). And depends on which browser you see it from, the output might look different. But I will edit and put the Unicode text there as well. Bennylin (talk)

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Blanked the contents of User:Bennylin/Color/RG
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 * Thanks for the notif. Bennylin (talk) 11:22, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Sarah Azhari
I invite you to please join the discussion at Talk:Sarah Azhari.

Hello, we are seeking help with the Sarah Azhari article, created in 2013 & recently the subject of a deletion proposal. At issue was whether or not the Indonesian language sources establish notability. I am inviting you to the discussion at Talk:Sarah Azhari because you are in the Category:User id-N & have a minimum of 1,000 edits across all Wikimedia projects.

I realize that some of you are very busy while others may no longer be editing. Nevertheless, I thought it wise to consult with you.

Thank your for the work that you do on Wiki[mp]edia! Peaceray (talk) 21:06, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Assistance with Indonesian Wikipedia ban
Hello Bennylin, would it be possible for you to assist me in attempting to have my account at the Indonesian Wikipedia unblocked?

At Special:CentralAuth/93, there are 104 other language Wikipedias and other Wikimedia projects where my username is not an issue. The administrator who banned me did not say why my username is invalid, and sadly he has died. I am not willing to change my username for a Wikipedia where I will not edit, and it is very problematic to have a block, for example at The Wikipedia Library where I was initially prohibited from applying to access it. 93 (talk) 23:33, 16 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi, we're sorry for that. Your account has been unblocked, and this is an official statement from Indonesian Wikipedia on behalf of other admins that your account (or previous accounts before renaming) has been blocked wrongly, and you have never did anything that warranted a block in Indonesian Wikipedia in the first place. Bennylin (talk) 00:04, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much! Please also consider unblocking other users who may have been erroneously banned by Stephensuleeman such as (ID, Global) who had the same issue as me. 93 (talk) 00:17, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Can't do that, there's no way to know which block was erroneous easily (need to spend a lot of effort and time). It's better to be requested individually, and checked individually as well, in case there was any legitimate block. Cheers. Bennylin (talk) 00:46, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

ASEAN
I see that you have twice tried to jump the gun regarding ASEAN's possible future expansion. Please read the reference carefully, and if you need further detail you'll find it at Accession of East Timor to ASEAN. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:44, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of List of largest languages without official status for deletion
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due for a protection ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kraton_Ngayogyakarta_Hadiningrat dengan hormat - when is the eternal script addition going to reduce the accessibility of the article for an english speaker using a phone to access the item? or am I dreaming.... JarrahTree 08:10, 4 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Does it shows as "tofu" like these "􏿮􏿮􏿮􏿮􏿮􏿮" in your phone? Old phones couldn't show Javanese script correctly, but it should be no problem for newer phone. Welcome to the Unicode era, where no script is left behind. Bennylin (talk) 15:07, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 * There's already a useful sidebox for that article: (kinda trigger warning) for people who are triggered by non-Latin characters. It used to have categories that would list all the articles that contain non-Latin characters, but was removed since 2020. (link)
 * . Bennylin (talk) 15:13, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

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