User talk:Chzz/Archive 18

The least security -- sign out of your user interface
Computer security worker or not, if someone else is using your private computer, particularly if it is someone like dragon, whom you don't know very well, simply log out of your user interface account and have them always use a guest account.--IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 21:30, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

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I'm sorry that things went down how they did, I certainly didn't expect all that to devolve in such a short time.

I hold no ill will or suspicion toward you, the drama was all too much for me as well. I hope to talk to you soon, you really do amazing work in helping our new contributors and I am still amazingly impressed with your workhorse speed. Love ya, buddy. Keegan (talk) 21:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Next steps
Hi Chzz,

I think you've done a lot of great work here, so to whatever extent my following the bread crumbs on the Dragon account has caused you stress, just know that I think you still have a lot to offer the Wikipedia community. I've stated in a few places that I don't believe your explanations, but whether they are true or not, I think most of us who opposed you for this are willing to grant most editors a mulligan and recognize that your good contributions far outweigh any negatives found in this incident. Assuming your side of the story is true, just be more careful with your computer. Assuming you lied about it, I can see that you would have created Dragon in a time of stress over the summer, and used it for the good of the project. People make mistakes, and we all need to remember that this is just an online encyclopedia. If you did what we accuse you of doing, it warrants a failed RfA, but it doesn't warrant exiling you from the project. To be honest, it would be a big loss to the project if you were to leave. If you do stick around, drop me a line if you ever want to run the gauntlet of RfA again and I would be happy to consider nominating you.

Best of luck, Hiberniantears (talk) 22:11, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I second this. No matter what, don't give up helping out newbies and contributing. Wikipedia still needs you! -- &oelig; &trade; 22:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hiberniantears has aptly put what I wish I could write. Keegan (talk) 23:00, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I think you need this, my own first attempt went a bit pear shaped as well, so I know a little of how you must feel.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers 23:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Chzz, just wanted to add my regards here too. Rlevse implied you may be taking a little time off, and I don't blame you if that is the case. This has been a stressful rollercoaster ride for many of us, so I can't even imagine how battered your head must be.  If you are taking a break, enjoy your rest and I look forward to seeing you back here soon, doing what you do so well with the articles and the newbies. Best wishes, mate.  AJ  Cham  23:41, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * A spontaneous note of a sleepy grumpy me: Cheer up. You might be stronger than all of us or you might be not, but you must have felt bad from this RFA. Stupid advice - forget it. This never happened. Wikipedia is one thing, its backstage mechanisms are another. I don't give compliments, but I admire your work, your dedication to WP and your strength in handling this matter. You've got something you enjoy doing, haven't you - get into that. If this would be working for the sake of WP - great, you know there are plenty of WP people who like you. If not - c'est la vie. Good luck. Materialscientist (talk) 00:08, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Chzz, just wanted to add my thoughts too - I understand if you have a bit of a break from Wikipedia - but don't make it a permanent one! The advice you give on the Help Desk and elsewhere has always been excellent, and personally I feel that it would be a great loss to Wikipedia if we lost you! Read Hiberniantears' advice above - and keep up the good work on Wikipedia! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 00:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I also want to say I'm sorry this turned out the way it did. Allow me to wish you the best, Jusda  fax  01:16, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Commiserations from me also. I opposed your RFA, but I want to be clear I don't have anything against you as a person, and I'm not even convinced you've broken any rules - I just had too much doubt to trust you with the tools at this time. As far as I can tell though, you've been a productive and valued editor, and I hope you continue to be one. This mess must have been painful for you, but if you can put it behind you and simply carry on editing productively, I believe you will be able to earn back the community's trust and perhaps achieve adminship at a later date. Good luck. Robofish (talk) 02:15, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Echoing Robofish. Once in a while the wiki puts an editor in the eye of a storm. It's intense, but it seldom lasts long. Best wishes to you.  Durova 352 15:01, 2 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Also echoing Robofish. You are a very good person, but the situation at the time just prevented me from supporting you. You are a great editor, and if you keep doing what you've been doing, I'm sure you'll pass eventually, should you decide to run again. Best wishes.  Until It Sleeps Talk •  Contribs 22:25, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow...Going To Miss your Help
Chzz, I just read some of what is going on and I, like you, have little tolerance for drama. So truthfully, while I skimmed through some of the issues, I did not read it all....but I do know this, what ever has or has not happened, you have helped me and a lot of other people. I'm going to miss your presence, assistance and guidance. I hope this will not permanently keep you away from coming to the rescue and helping others here. In the meantime, I will try to find someone who can fill the void and with whom I can work, as I still have some edits to make moving forward. With my appreciation for all you have done. I hope you return to lend your talents to others in need.

Clou2epstein (talk) 23:52, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Take a break, don't make ANY major decisions during a time of stress, let some time pass. I don't know that we ever actually interacted, but I still miss you.-- SPhilbrick  T  02:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Should Persecution of Falun Gong be renamed into something else?
That is the question that is repeated again here: Talk:Persecution of Falun Gong. Since you are not an involved editor, would it be possible for you to provide an input? Thank you in advance for your time! --HappyInGeneral (talk) 16:55, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

This sucks
I withdrew my support, because I couldn't in good conscience continue to support your RfA with everything that was going on, but at the same time I still stand by my initial reasons for supporting you. You're a great editor and I hope you stick around. If you ever need anything on the project drop me a message. --  At am a  頭 19:11, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Come back soon
Chzz, I think it is pretty clear from all the comments from various users above that we want you back; also that we empathize with you for the recent tough RfA. You are forlornly missed on wiki/wikipedia-en-help. You make things better for Wikipedia.

Remember, the only difference between stumbling blocks and stepping stones is the way you use them. JoeSmack Talk 20:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

What happened?
I come back some time after supporting Chzz's RFA and find out that it has gone completely haywire. I looked over the discussion, too. Can someone tell me what this supposed "sock-puppet" was used for? I mean seriously, if Chzz had been using it to back up his own arguments, to vandalize, or to do anything malicious, sure he would try to hide it. Most of the "sock puppet"'s contributions are decent edits. Why would Chzz try to hide anything if this was an entirely positive account? I'm perfectly willing to accept his explanation, considering nothing wrong has been done here except a couple of suspected double votes and possible lying on an RFA. And those double votes...didn't even really affect anything. Please come back soon, Chzz. The Arbiter  ★★★  00:35, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

What the...?!?
I read through your RfA... and then I read through it a few days later. It did not resemble the first one, and that is rather... shocking. I'm not sure how this controversy came about, but I personally do not believe that you have abused any accounts or such... You helped me once, and you were very nice about it... Actually, I'm really just confused right now. But I hope you come back. We need some help out there.--fetchcomms 03:08, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I hope you have a thick skin.
I know that the past couple of days have not been great for you and I hope you have a thick skin. The concerns I raised were never about you but about your edits. And the truth is that most of us (including me) have done worse things in life than what you were accused of (dangling participle??). If you go through my edits it won't take long before you find some sort of inappropriate behavior. (I am truly a humble man with a lot to be humble about!). . . Also in fairness to you, you have touched many many people in a positive way.

Winston Churchill, remarking on the uncertainties of elective politics, said it was important "to be magnanimous in victory and gracious in defeat. . . and to never never give up." I hope you keep up the good work that you have done and that we can put this RfA behind us. Happy Editing. - Ret.Prof (talk) 11:27, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Worlds Greenest Homes
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Rfa
I was not around when all this Rfa stuff went on. Will you tell me (in a nutshell) what happened. When and why did it start to go down hill? Do you know what your support percentage was? Thanks.

GandalftheWise (talk) 18:31, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure whether Chzz is around, or willing to discuss it, but you can find the RfA here. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 20:55, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

The Drama
Hi Chzz. I've seen the notice that said you are away, but I have decided to still post you a message. I was very busy the last two weeks, mainly because of the examinations. The last time I spoke to you everything was okay. Once I logged on I remembered your RFA and decided to check it out. I wanted to know if you passed, but I've read that you withdrew.

I took my time and read trough everything I could get regarding the issue. My opinion? I don't care how far fetched your story may sound to some of the other editors, I believe you. I know you now for quite some time, and if you say that you are telling the truth, I would come up for you. To say the truth, I've met you once you helped me with something!

There is one more reason why I believe that you are telling the truth. I don't know if you would remember this, but some time ago I entered your IRC channel and asked you how it is going. You said okay, but something bothered you. You explained my the case of the admins that was involved in that socketpuppet case. I could remember that you were very upset about the case. Why would you do the exact same thing, if it upsetted you so much? And I know you are not stupid. You would've known that a CheckUser would be able to pick it up.

Help
Sir, Could you give me a little advice, one of the reasons that the east is having problems with western culture (talking about the west being on a dark path, is over the spread of pornography, ect.) That can of worms brings in whose idea of just what is porn. Scientific illustrations vs. what would be sold in magazines in a dirty back room of a filling station, might sometimes be one and the same. While most of us males have a penis, showing or exposing oneself (funny the part becomes oneself) in public can get one arrested. To the point - a photo in the page on peyronie's disease seems to cross both lines, I have replaced this twice - suggesting that any of several medical illustrations might be better (given children can stumble across this photo), however people who definitely want this photo on wikipedia and are apparently sitting at home watching over this particular photo, have quickly changed it back. One suggested I use the sandbox before making such a change, without heeding his own advise. Is there a place to complain about offensive photos. Perhaps, I am just tilting at windmills. I had a Hindu friend who let his rent on his domain name for his grocery store lapse, a few years ago. Needing to call to see if he had a product (I had lost his #) I typed in his store's name - BHAAM a similar photo, but including two folks and anal insertion popped up. As I was shocked, I could only imagine the shock of many Hindu grandmothers. Folks were apparently trolling for lapsed sites, procuring them, adding a choice bit of porn and then offering to sell the site back - essentially blackmail.

I have always loved the humour of George Carlin, but I wouldn't print many of his jokes here. Any help would be appreciated, sorry for casting you as my argonaut. thanks Atmamatma (talk) 22:43, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I am afraid that as Wikipedia is not censored, there is nothing that can be done. You may not like seeing an actual photograph of a penis demonstrating Peyronie's disease, but the picture itself is not pornographic anyway, but medical. Even if it was pornographic, if it was appropriate to the article it was in, then it would be kept. If you feel that you don't want your children to access pictures on Wikipedia, then may I refer you to Options to not see an image. --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 22:57, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Where have you gone?
Just wanted to say that I was losing hope in wikipedia, and, lost in the confusion, I remembered your welcome post on my talk page. I thought I'd turn to you before giving up, but you're already gone. That makes me feel really sad but, in some strange way, better. I wish I could contact you somehow Jasonayala (talk) 01:17, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Special:EmailUser/Chzz. --Katerenka (talk) 08:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Help Pages
I see you've been industrious in the help department, please feel free to pop in at the Help Project, where we're trying to make sense of the help pages and create a easier introduction for new users, the more the merrier! Lee&there4;V (talk • contribs) 21:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Come back soon
I don't know what's been going on, but I could use your help on Jon Butcher. Rees11 (talk) 17:19, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for what you have done for me, and for the article about Artis the Spoonman.--Spoon Maniac (talk) 19:42, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope all is well for you, Chzz.--Spoon Maniac (talk) 19:43, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Woodwork for Joiners and Cabinetmakers for Beginners and Improvers
An article that you have been involved in editing, Woodwork for Joiners and Cabinetmakers for Beginners and Improvers, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Abductive (reasoning) 12:05, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello
Hello Chzz, this is Airplaneman. I read through your RfA again today, and saw your response to my message :) (Yes, OK, maybe I took those links wrong way...). I hope the wikibreak helps and you'll consider joining us again. Regards, Airplaneman  talk 04:27, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

I need help installing pictures
Hello Chzz, can you please help me. I have a picture I want to insert but I have no idea how, I've read the page that tells me how but I do not understand any of it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by P.4.P. No. 1 (talk • contribs)
 * Please try asking at the help desk. But you'll need to be more specific. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:27, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Hope you aren't actually retired
Hope to see you around some time....  fetch  comms  ☛ 20:03, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Please use Huggle only to revert vandalism
Not things like this. Gurch (talk) 23:36, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Why was this just added?  fetch  comms  ☛ 23:05, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I've had enough of this!!!!
Proposal: Chzz needs to come back to Wikipedia NOW!

He was a good character.--Spoon Maniac (talk) 03:22, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Support The Arbiter  ★★★  17:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment A. He can't (or won't) from here. B. He probably is already.  fetch  comms  ☛ 23:04, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Support  The New  Mikemoral  ♪♫ 01:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 2) Support We really miss you Chzz!  Lourie Pieterse  19:01, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 3) Support (although I'm thinking along the same lines as fetchcomms) -- Phantom Steve /talk &#124;contribs \ 19:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 4) Support Arteyu ?  Blame it on me !  07:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: I think that should have been in the present tense rather than the past, Spoon Maniac. I've got no reason to think that he is not still being a good character, whether on- or off-wiki! -- Phantom Steve /talk &#124;contribs \ 19:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

cut of meat redirect
Hi Chuzz, I just now came across and. I just changed the target of both to Primal cut because... well, it could be more appropriate. I don't know, what do you think? — V = I * R  (talk to Ω) 20:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Chzz hasn't edited in almost two months. @Kate   (parlez)  20:45, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Grrr
This sucks. Kwiki (talk) 15:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Ardwick Athletic F.C.
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About your Admin Coaching request

 * Yes, I know that Chzz is not currently editing: however, I am leaving these notifications for the others, and when/if Chzz comes back, I don't want him to think I was rude by not notifying him! -- Phantom Steve /<font color="#008000">talk &#124;<font color="#000080">contribs \ 09:21, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey Chzz
I appreciate you may not see this for a white, but if and when you do, please note that Pabmeista has been blocked for sockpuppetry. As you were trying to help him, and are familiar with both this and the master account(Pabmeista, The One & Only Fools and Horses) please could you keep an eye out for this editor in the future?

Cheers pablo <sub style="text-shadow: 3px 3px 3px rgba(255,255,0,0.75); color: #c30;">... sí pero no pero sí .... 16:28, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

File:Zzz-temp.jpg listed for deletion
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Happy Christmas!
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 Lourie Pieterse  is wishing you Happy Christmas! Whether you celebrate Christmas, Yuletide, Litha, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hannukkah, Kwanzaa, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

"The greatest gift they'll get this year is life." ~ Bob Geldof & Midge Ure Spread the hugs & cheer by adding to your friends' talk pages.
 * Merry Christmas Chzz. I hope all is well with whatever you have chosen to do. I wish you luck in all your endeavors in the new year.-- Gordonrox24 &#124; Happy Holidays! 17:09, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

where'd you go?
Chzzy, you ever going to peak your head back here? Wish you were around! JoeSmack Talk 17:43, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Tablighi Jamaat
I found out that you made good amount of contribs to Tablighi Jamaat. I've been working on this article since some time. I just wanted to make a friendly request for article assessment. I will appreciate if you can comment on the quality of current article and any possible areas of improvement. Few lines here, may be. I see you are retired now, I'll wait for your comeback. Users like you make WP a better the best place to spend time on internet.Hamza [ talk ] 17:16, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

RfA thingy
I just saw this RfA case. I don't know what they say or conclude, or whether you had a double account or not. But i assume good faith. And you should know that you REALLY made difference in my experience with wikipedia. I can say with full certainty that if somebody randomly asked me "Name a wikipedia user except yourself" My prompt answer would be Chzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. If you're reading this, then buddy, I miss you here. Hamza [ talk ] 17:52, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

New Path
Chzz for me you are the one that opened up a New Path in my life time of experiences and I will be forever greatful. I just completed my first Biography after 3 months of work, wouldn't have happened with out your guidence and support when I joined. I've given up on some things during my life to, we all experience it I believe, but this isn't one of those things you should. Never Give UpTinkermen (talk) 14:34, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry
Regarding this,

Hi there. Hopefully you'll remember me, from my trying to help you; well, now it's my turn to ask for help.

I'm trying to help re-launch an idea called "Spotlight". The notion is to select an article and work on it collectively, via live discussion, for one week. If lots of people get involved, it can work really well; in the past, the project died off through lack of participants. Anyone can help out, because that's the whole point - we have many and varied skills, but between us, we can do amazing things. So - please join the channel, and add yourself to the participants in WP:SPOTLIGHT. Thanks for your time!  Chzz  ►  22:27, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Although, you have time and again helped me in the past...i am sorry that i could not return you back the favour...you see i have been away from wikipedia for a long time now...just came back once for an edit and saw your post...after spending hours editing articles...i have realized that it wont remain there forever...and the articles will continue to be edited blatantly by irresponsible and ignorant users...however, still i am happy that i have already contributed heavily to my preferred sections and most of my edits are still visible...sorry again, as i wont be able to help you with this spotlight thing in the future as well...best of luck...! Kesangh (talk)

SAY IT AIN'T SO! Oh, for God's sake...
Chzz.. your work here has been invaluable, and just knowing there were people like you with a good heart, work ethic, and willingness to help we who are so computer challenged has kept me on Wikipedia. I watched User:HJensen run out of WP after bringing Frank Zappa to FA status, along with a bunch of other Zappa-related articles as well, over delinking some dates. And now, the beaurocracy here has decided to de-link dates! Just unreal. But, if you leave, who will stand up for common sense? Who will assist newbies, or encourage people without various talents, as you have? I think we have to be far more careful in choosing (and bothering to vote for) Admins here. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 22:43, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi / Bye?
Ahh, Chzz is WikiCorpse? Makes me sad. Yadda Yadda Yadda, thanks for the help, hope to see you again, brother. -- Esoteric Rogue  Talk  11:52, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Non Free Images in you User Space
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AfD nomination of The Woolly Bandits
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Scottish Defence League
You may want to comment re: Scottish Defence League here. &mdash; The   Earwig   @  17:13, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi!
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Hello Chzz, Celestialwarden11 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Hello, fellow Wikipedian! I am so, so happy and honored for this chance for us to talk. If you need anything, or if you simply want to chat, I am right here for you, pal! Also remember, to spread the joy! Wikipedia may not be the most cheerful place to be, but YOU can help make it more cheerful! Have a fantastic day, and God bless! ^_^

Power Level
Your power level... It's over 9,000!--70.246.159.180 (talk) 03:14, 26 February 2010 (UTC)