User talk:Crisco 1492/Archive 19

DYK for Prince Antasari
Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi
Hello Crisco,

You have messages at Featured_picture_candidates

Regards, -- Jkadavoor (talk) 08:32, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sang Pencerah
Hello! Your submission of Sang Pencerah at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Ishtar456 (talk) 12:35, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for The Virginian (1929 film)
The DYK project (nominate) 00:01, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
— M. Mario  (T/C) 10:06, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Idrus
Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:23, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Sang Pencerah
Hello! Your submission of Sang Pencerah at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Ishtar456 (talk) 12:36, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

apology
Look, I'm sorry for the waffling. I just can't stand unsourced material being added in a dyk style. If you can get Tony or Sko to say it's ok, then I'll back off.

I'd really encourage you to buff up the FP process so that, in anticipation of being in Featured content, and image will already have the pertinent info. MathewTownsend (talk) 00:03, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Where's the citation? I don't see it. I don't think it's true today, maybe for a short time years ago, but not in today's world. MathewTownsend (talk) 00:20, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You added it to Whistler's Mother? I really don't think it's true. MathewTownsend (talk) 00:26, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, if you think so highly of it, why don't you replace that awful toad with it? The green of the toad next to the green of the computer board is bibulous. Ugh! MathewTownsend (talk) 00:44, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I put the flower there because it makes a nice "splash" and readers respond to color. It would've been too much Whistler to have him top and bottom. Plus I don't like that other picture - and it's certainly not iconic. I think the opening image should be recognizable and not a ???? (what the?) reaction. But that green (awful) toad, and I have nothing against toads, with the green of the circuit board, is awful.  Whistler's Mother would be soothing. Leave the reader soothed.  MathewTownsend (talk) 00:54, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ps I wrote an article Musée Bolo to link to the caption of the circuit board ! MathewTownsend (talk) 01:00, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

oh, please, please, please don't put the fireworks image in. It dilutes the impact of Whistlers Mother, and the two pictures aren't related, as the two were last week. I think it ruins it to have them both at the bottom. MathewTownsend (talk) 01:09, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

FPC camera
Here you said "me wantee that camera". I could not figure out which camera you meant and I am just curious about it. Regards --Commander Keane (talk) 05:10, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Kwakiutl (statue)
Hi -- just a quick thanks for passing my article on DYK! As a side note: it was actually "created" March 5, in terms of moving it to the namespace. The article was developed in my username space, and two weeks later, moved and nominated the same day. Aloha! -- Zanimum (talk) 18:38, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Sang Pencerah
The DYK project (nominate) 02:29, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the peer review
You gave me a bit to work on there. Most of it was fixable, only 2 or 3 things the sources were silent on. Good find with the images, at least I won't have to deal with fair use on this article... Oh, and having a TFA did turn out to be a real pain--it attracts a lot of people who are unaware of the guidelines we take for granted. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:40, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've heard. I tried to nominate "Amazing Grace" for TFA a while back but the writer was... well, displeased. So it didn't happen. Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:59, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, added in some selected works, I picked the first few from Google scholar and then listed the ones I'd already mentioned in the article. So, overall, what are your thoughts on the article? Mark Arsten (talk) 00:56, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd support. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:43, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's what I like to hear :) I realized the other day that the three articles I'm working on now William S. Sadler, Hiram W. Evans, and William T. Anderson are all about white supremacists. I really hope people don't start to think I'm racist--maybe I should work on the Black Panthers or something to balance things out. BTW, it really sucks how little attention some articles get at FAC. If I were you, I'd start cornering people on their talk pages and demanding reviews at this point. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:08, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Meh, que sera, sera. If you want an African-American or racial minority topic, I can't think of any besides the Black Panthers. Tubman and Robinson are already FAs. Underground Railroad needs work, but... it's definitely a big topic. Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:20, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, on a positive note, I finally transferred William T. Anderson out of my sandbox fully into article space. Now there's just the herculean task of editing it... good thing I like doing that. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:59, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you've put a ton of work into that. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:01, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the strange thing is, I started it because I thought it would be an easy subject to get to featured status. I wonder if someone had spiked my drink that night... Mark Arsten (talk) 03:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Do what Bond does: get it shaken, not stirred. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:07, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Please look at my Fish hook
Hi. suggested that I seek your opinion of my April Fools' Day hook for Janet Fish. Drmies has already reviewed and approved the article; the only question is about the hook. Perhaps he thought of you because you refer to the day as "Fish Day"; it would be great to have a Main Page "Fish hook" on that day! Thanks, M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  20:26, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look ("fish day" = basterdisation of "poisson d'avril", what the French call April Fool's Day) Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input! M AN d ARAX  •  XAЯA b ИA M  23:26, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hope the alts are interesting. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:28, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 26 March 2012

 * Read this Signpost in full
 * Single-page
 * Unsubscribe
 * EdwardsBot (talk) 23:55, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Multihook DYK noms
I have a few multi-hook noms. Any chance you might review them? --LauraHale (talk) 10:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * WHy not, one or two Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:05, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK assistance
Hi. An emergency came up and I have to go home to the USA tomorrow. I'll be unavailable/sporadically for the next 48 to 72 hours. If you could look after my DYK nominations (I think I have about 40 floating around at the moment) until then, that would be great. Any fixing, responding would be useful. : / --LauraHale (talk) 01:24, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'll try. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:34, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Oka Antara
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:17, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Sys NS
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

blurb length
Hi,

Tony suggested before that the blurbs be shortened and I agree. People like me just skip over them when they are crammed with unfamiliar facts and phrases that mean nothing to 90% of the readers. I think we should just give an over view to encourage those interested to read the article - not put them off by a crammed blurb. We can discuss it with Tony and Sko if you disagree.

I'm staying out of the blurbs re images. Not proofing or anything, as I know you disagree with my view there. Regards, MathewTownsend (talk) 13:09, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, but I would consider adding a bit of information that is not in the first paragraph of the lede. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:12, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've pursued the article and tried to do that - as long as it's not dense facts/figures but overall statements, and as long it doesn't lengthen the blurbs. I'm really against those blurbs crammed with facts/figures that are not important to the whole - especially specific lengthy specific title, early happenings in a person's life, associations etc. that to 90% of readers are just mumble jumble. We just want to perk up the readers interest in engaging in th whole article. We should  be describing why this person/place etc. is worthy of an article, not give the bio of his life with many specific facts. (Same with lists; the reader can read the list if they are interested in the specifics. Just give enough to perk up interest in reader to read the list.)  MathewTownsend (talk) 13:25, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds okay, although a couple highlights for the lists should be included (at the very least to avoid two line blurbs). Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:30, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Someone should tell ...
about Sitti Noerbaja, sigh, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I received an email from him/her. I figured the issue is over, why report it. Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:59, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Maria Ulfah Santoso
Nice hook! Haha, "meester." Drmies (talk) 21:17, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed. And our readers will learn something new - even women can be "Mr." in the Netherlands. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:05, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Maria Ulfah Santoso/GA1
I've reviewed the article and left notes on the talk page. I've put the nomination on hold for seven days to allow the issues to be addressed. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, here, or on the article talk page with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth - Talk 22:10, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Clara Ng
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:05, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Mira W.
I created an article for Mira W. - maybe you can expand it with Indonesian language sources?·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 01:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll look into it this evening. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:26, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Gr4eat, well done! Thank you!·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 03:24, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Gambir Market
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:01, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Pics for up coming Signpost
For featured articles and featured lists, I'm considering these: my mockups so far for this week. What do you think?

Unfortunately, there don't seem to be a good selection of pics this week. Can't have more nudes, nor more Goyas after last week, except Dog I guess. I hate that lizard, the snake is ok, maybe another Whistler (two weeks in a row). Too many paintings of similar styles and eras. Do you think in the future you could spread out your nominations of a specific artist say, over time and provide more variety in style and subject? Get more fantastic building, exquisite landscapes, architectural features, etc.? Just a suggestion. If I knew how to fix a picture up for nomination, I'd look around for more variety. But I don't. MathewTownsend (talk) 16:28, 29 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Well, for further suggestions we have a nice picture of wheelchair basketball (very underrepresented, and the colours are good). There's a Gamecube too, but that may be bland. A poster and picture of a building are likely to pass as well. Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:08, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I just tried this for effect: Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-04-02/Featured_content Feel free to change, as all the contestants aren't in! MathewTownsend (talk) 00:13, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I saw that snake.Nice! Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:18, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I love the way it looks you in the eye!
 * Going by the noms so far, I'd say three for featured content at this time (6 noms so far but there probably will be more), two for featured list (as they have 5 noms so far) and the rest featured pictures - that's kinda my formula, trying to be fair, but open to modification.  MathewTownsend (talk) 00:24, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sound good. I'd probably use The Dog and the Wheelchair basketball one. I like the St. John the Baptise image as well. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:27, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * well, the selection wasn't very good for me. I had a hard time, and they're not very balanced subject-wise (two of the English coast) - but there wasn't much of a selection. Have fun! MathewTownsend (talk) 22:04, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Anal people
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You're a genius. Khazar2 (talk) 00:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL, as soon as I saw the language I knew I had to write about the people. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
I realised this was the problem just as you reverted it. Thanks. Mato (talk) 00:26, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Twasn't me who reverted, twas Soap Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:28, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, wrong userpage! Thanks for the puzzle anyway. Mato (talk) 00:29, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised it lasted so long, when I put "April fools!" (in French) in the edit summary... Well, thanks for the feedback. I'll be good for the rest of the day... probably. Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:31, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I wonder how many admins rebooted their computers after seeing that? Mark Arsten (talk) 00:36, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I wonder which joker put this one up? ? Mark Arsten (talk) 00:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * LOL. I would have just written "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here". Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:49, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Urgent review request for Template:Did you know nominations/Anthony Davis (basketball)‎
I have had an urgent review request at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know that is being ignored. Can you review this?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here"
Yup see
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Gambir,_Jakarta
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cideng,_Gambir

etc etc SatuSuro 06:23, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Maria Ulfah Santoso
The DYK project (nominate) 08:04, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

general image question(s)
Hi,

How come some images (like File:Goya Dog.jpg) end up humongous tall, no matter what? Also, I can't figure out what the parameter "upright" does, since images seem to look the same with or without it? What gives? MathewTownsend (talk) 13:52, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I think "upright" is for the really funky ones, like 1000x5000 Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for ? (film)
The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You are on a roll, sir! Khazar2 (talk) 16:04, 1 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I couldn't resist with a title like that :-D Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:08, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't get this dyk business. This article of yours became a GA on December 18, 2011. and hasn't been expanded since. MathewTownsend (talk) 16:12, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * April Fool's is different; hooks are gathered over the period of a year. Anal people was created in July. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

You said "Kevin brought up a fairly good point for the Yama-Yama Man, so I didn't promote that." What? There was agreement in the thread that quotes addressed the issue, no one disagreed about it. I feel like you decided on your own to go against the consensus of the thread and not promote the article. Green Cardamom (talk) 16:29, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Kevin made one comment, and you replied. Nobody weighed in again after that last comment. Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:33, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You didn't read the whole thread. The quotes were added to the hook by Orlady. I removed them. Kevin said the quotes were needed. I added them back. That's all that happened. There is no disagreement everyone is OK with it, so long as the quotes are in the hook. Green Cardamom (talk) 16:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * And nobody tried to build preps either, including yourself. If you feel it should be included, feel free to contact an admin (I am not one, so I cannot put it on the main page) Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no idea how the process works. I never wanted the thing promoted to April Fools anyway, now it's gotten passed over and too late for it to be added back to the normal DYK. What a mess. Green Cardamom (talk) 16:43, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I've removed it entirely, but glad to see your own articles were promoted. Green Cardamom (talk) 17:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Efek Rumah Kaca (album)
The DYK project (nominate) 08:05, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Peter Orno
Would you please put Peter Orno in a queue. If you use Orlady's hook, please correctly place quotes around the pseudonym "Peter Orno". Peter Orno is not a pseudonym, of course. Kiefer .Wolfowitz 10:27, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sang Penari
The article Sang Penari you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Sang Penari for things which need to be addressed. GRAPPLE  X  22:40, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Kembang-Kembang Plastik
The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 3 April 2012 (UTC)