User talk:Crisco 1492/Archive 64

DYK for Tiga Dara
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:19, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Tiga Dara
Bang, mengapa film 3 Dara tidak termuat di artikel tersebut? Apa memang tidak ada kaitannya? Padahal, kalau dilihat dari judulnya, tampaknya ada kaitan di antaranya. Hanamanteo (talk) 05:37, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Kalau dilihat dari judulnya. Tapi perlu rujukan. Saya cari dulu.Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 05:41, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Produser menolak adanya kaitan http://koran-sindo.com/news.php?r=4&n=0&date=2015-09-23 Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 05:47, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gordon Tobing
Hello! Your submission of Gordon Tobing at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Cowlibob (talk) 19:29, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Di minimis?
TrueHeartSusie3 would like to have a photo of Marilyn Monroe at the Golden Globe Awards. This one was published in a 1960 newspaper (Kenosha, WI) which didn't renew any copyrights. Is too much of the award seen for di minimis? Thanks! We hope (talk) 23:07, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I think so, yes. :( — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:02, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! We hope (talk) 00:14, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Happy Canada Day
Any plans for next year's sesquicentennial? - Dank (push to talk) 13:10, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Dang, that's something we should be thinking of. I don't generally write Canadian history, however. Maybe Curly Turkey or Nikkimaria have something they can think of? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:45, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe a FP of people wearing maple leaves. Just maple leaves. - Dank (push to talk) 13:50, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Not something I'll be able to take (no maples in Indonesia). I'll try to look around, however. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:58, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Halifax Explosion hasn't run yet, though I'd rather save that for its own centennial. Will think on it also. Nikkimaria (talk) 17:43, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I couldn't handle it, but Canadian Confederation would be the perfect choice. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 20:34, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * That would be perfect. - Dank (push to talk) 21:49, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Canadian Centennial would also be a good choice, and is severely underdeveloped. Pierre Berton wrote a whole book about it that isn't even used in the article. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 03:25, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Canadian National Vimy Memorial is at FAC right now. Though it'd probably be better for the centennial of the battle, which already ran in 1912. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 03:28, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Vimy works, unless we run it for Remembrance Day. Brian's in charge of November. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:14, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

QPQ
If I were to nominate three articles for DYK, would I need to review three DYK noms or just one? I assume this is layout somewhere but can't find it and want to be sure.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:20, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Three for three, per WP:DYKSG#H4 ("an article-for-article quid pro quo (QPQ) is required") — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:32, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know/Queue
This seems to have fallen behind on Prep areas being moved to the Queues again. There's three complete preps, and I'll finish the fourth now. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:50, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Done two. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:19, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Quick image Q
Hi Chris, I've uploaded this today. What is the general guidance with these studio portraits with the name on the bottom? Show the whole thing, replace with a cropped version or upload and show a cropped version? Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 17:03, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * For that one I'd crop. There's nothing in policy saying we have to keep the full carte de visite. If you were going for fpc, it would be a different story. Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 23:51, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * That's great, cheers - SchroCat (talk) 14:40, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Farida Arriany
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:20, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Indriati Iskak
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:34, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Aminah Cendrakasih
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:19, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

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Category:Articles with film ratings that need to be turned into prose
Hi, you created this category two years ago, I was just wondering if you can remember which templates are supposed to populate it? It's not Album ratings, and the equivalent film rating templates appear to have been deleted, though both of them prior to you creating the category. Cheers! PC78 (talk) 13:11, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, that takes me back. It was Template:Film reception, which was also deleted. I think the category's probably safe to delete. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:37, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've tagged it for speedy deletion. PC78 (talk) 14:36, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, Grapple! I prepared about 10,000 words for the interview. Glad to see they were put to good use. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:14, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Editor dibayar
Crisco, ngomong soal editor yang dibayar di Wikipedia nih, kira-kira kerjaannya harus artikel dengan konten yang banyak, boleh membuat artikel rintisan, atau boleh cuman ngebetulin atau nambah-nambahin konten yang udah ada aja ? Selain itu kalo editor dibayar cuman boleh bertugas di en.wiki atau bisa di Wikipedia bahasa lainnya ? --Erik Fastman (talk) 05:22, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yang saya pernah kenal, itu biasanya "memelihara" satu artikel. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:58, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Rima Melati
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:05, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Admin editwarring over ENGVAR on TFAR
There's an admin editwarring over ENGVAR bullshit on Katsudō Shashin on the mainpage. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:02, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Lugnuts has now joined in the editwarring. This is the fifth time he has engaged in an editwar against me.  He's also changing the date format style in violation of MOS:DATEVAR.  Obviously trying yet again to get a rise out of me. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:54, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The date editing is ridiculous. I've asked them to discuss the issue on the talk page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:56, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK queues are empty
Chris, I've also written Casliber on the theory that maybe one of you will be editing soon: the queues are empty and the next promotion is scheduled for 00:19, less than an hour from now. If you happen to start editing in the next hour or so, Casliber isn't active, and the queues are still empty, could you please promote a prep to the queue position (currently Prep 3 to Queue 3) so the bot can grab it for the main page? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:30, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for doing the promotion. Much appreciated. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:17, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Gene Kranz
I thought you should know I added a restoration. Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:21, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Alice C. Evans
I've tweaked the levels; could you have another look and make sure you still approve? Adam Cuerden (talk) 22:25, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

You might want to reconstruct in a bit more at the bottom, but I think that crop's still a pretty good picture, so I'd be inclined to salvage that way. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:00, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

License
Hi, can you please check and tell me if is PD-IDO? &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 09:13, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Vensatry. I don't have the source book, so I can't see if any author is credited. If it's anonymous, it's PD. If an artist is credited, we'd have to look for their lifespan. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:30, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You might want to take a look at these images – File:Krepa-kl.jpg, File:Nakula.jpg, File:Sadewa.jpg and File:Satyaki-kl.jpg – all of which seem to have their genesis from the same source. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 09:42, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I figured out the author. A few more images. &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 09:48, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The author of the book is not necessarily the creator of the images. If he is the artist, then these are still in copyright in the US until the 2040s at least (URAA). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:05, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You're right, but you think the license holds good for the rest of the images? &mdash; Vensatry (talk) 12:31, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hard to tell without knowing the artist. Looking back at the first image, if we can confirm it was published in 1919, it could be hosted on the English Wikipedia (in my previous comment I forgot that it was published before 1923, the cutoff date for something to still be copyright in the US) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:22, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Gordon Tobing
— Maile (talk) 14:21, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK queues are again empty
Chris, if you do happen by, the next promotion to the main page is due in about 40 minutes, and while there are four full preps, the queues are empty. As usual, I've tagged Casliber as well as you, in the hopes than one or the other of you will be available to promote at least one of the available preps. Thanks as always for anything you can do to help. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:18, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Friskies
Since you were involved in the Wikipedia page on Nestle Purina Petcare, I thought you may also have a minute for a related article on Friskies here. CorporateM (Talk) 20:10, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

TFA is yours again
July wrapped up, all schedules updated to now (although the FAC boys may promote this weekend). We're not badly astray on any of our subject headings, although best to give minor topics, including astronomy and coins, a wide berth for the moment. We're running a little adrift on MilHist again, but after Pentland it would be best to avoid Aussie airmen for a bit as I rather milked this group in July. You need be in no hurry to schedule to two nonspecifics that I added to the TFAR page when it was on the point of drying up altogether a couple of weeks back. Always best to keep something on the page I think. Happy scheduling! Brianboulton (talk) 16:47, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Great. Cheers! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:41, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for A. Hamid Arief
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:46, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Carol Greider
I've added in the requested alt. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:46, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Baby Huwae
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:01, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Problem with POTD row?
There seems to a problem with POTD row. If size is after texttitle in the code, than it gets included the "Recently featured" section of the protected version (like today and tomorrow). Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 10:45, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd tell you to contact User:Edokter, who was playing with the template last month, but his page says he's retired. Let me have a look. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:19, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Your Userpage: Me in the news - kinda
Unfortunatley not. The first link is fine, but the next four don't go anywhere. Doh! I'll have to watch something a lot less entertaining.  Cassianto Talk   23:46, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Well, I did read an article about Chris here on a certain magazine that's full of cracks... Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:23, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Dang, those went down already? Glad I archived them. (And I should link that Cracked article) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:13, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Gertrude Käsebier by Adolf de Meyer.jpg
Thoughts? Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:48, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Also, thoughts on:
 * 1) http://loc.gov/pictures/resource/ggbain.38991/
 * 2) http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/npcc.13397/
 * 3) https://www.loc.gov/item/hec2008008524/
 * 4) http://loc.gov/pictures/resource/cph.3c37838/
 * 5) http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ggbain.25241/
 * 6) http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/ggb2005023903/
 * 7) http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/cph.3b26147/
 * 8) http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsca.38921/
 * 9) http://www.loc.gov/pictures/resource/ppmsca.38977/


 * I'll have to wait for the wi-fi to repair itself. On the phone. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:18, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Suzzanna
Can I see the original of this for comparison? There's some blurry lighter bits, and I'd like to figure out the source of that. It's not really necessary to eliminate the speckling completely when it's consistent, but it needs made consistent. Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:23, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Now linked in the file description page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:15, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't suppose you have any intermediate saves? If you have one before any levels adjustments (and, ideally any crop/rotation) I can do a bit more by grabbing the few useable bits restored away (there's what appears to be hints of a dresser on the right that got lost). Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:07, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll drop the raw (and I do mean raw) scan in dropbox now. I'll link it once it's uploaded. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:13, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be difficult. Just trying to piece through how to get at this - this sort of image is one of the harder ones to get right, since there's so much white specks, but there's enough good in it that it's certainly worth it. Getting the tool damage fixed is going to be interesting; I have a plan, but it needs the unaltered original (Which I'll be grabbing small parts of to get a bit more material to fill in the blurry parts) and a colour-matched restoration. If that doesn't work, I'll have to try something else. Actually, if you have the colour settings you used on the restoration saved, just apply them to the original; it doesn't matter which direction the colour matching goes. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:14, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It is a beautiful low-key piece. Probably one of the better pictures of her I've seen, especially before she became a horror icon. Here's the file. The one on Commons already already has the color profile included (I scan without any automatic color profiling). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:45, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Farouk Afero
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:32, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Cover image
In In a Chinese Temple Garden, we have a digital score, with the front page. Could we have the cover as an image, like for other of the composer's works? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't see any images. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:03, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The one I'd like is on page 2 of this. A comparable one is this, found with the composer and the piece. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hm. 1923, but we could check for copyright renewal. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:16, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Cynthia Woodhead
I've made some changes per Sca's comment - mainly just pushing up the contrast in the lower half of the brightness a little more. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:15, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It's good. Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 19:29, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Email

 * Haven't received your email yet, but I think it should be perfectly clear that I think your method of "reviewing" is both against the letter (WP:FP? and spirit of FPC. So long as you keep it to comments, I can keep my peace. But when you oppose nominations with what boils down to "I just don't like it", rather than mentioning actual issues which can be addressed (i.e. disrupt the process), I will say exactly what I think of your "reviewing". In the spirit of "A picture's encyclopedic value (referred to as "EV") is given priority over its artistic value", I have voted for, and even, in the case of paintings, nominated, images which I personally felt were boring. Nocturne in Black and Gold – The Falling Rocket does nothing for me, and yet I nominated it because our scan was clearly "among the best examples of [that] subject that the encyclopedia has to offer". If you want to judge pictures solely on their aesthetic values, then please feel free to go to Commons' featured pictures process; they have a "wow" criteria which we don't, and which you would find quite welcoming.
 * Now regarding the pictures in question, As NickD said, and I can testify to from my own experiences as a semi-regular visitor of military museums (I think I'm at eight in three countries, but it might be more), military uniforms are central to military museums. Every Indonesian military museum I have visited has had at least one room especially for uniforms (and often another for standards), and the Australian National War Memorial has several in prominent positions. Uniforms, aside from serving a functional purpose, also represent and project the constructed identity of the nations which use them, as well as their priorities at the time the uniforms were used. In these two images we have a uniform on an actual person (rather than a mannequin), in the context of what has unfortunately been the most common battlefield environment for Britain in the 2000s. That the image is posed does not detract from it; rather, it allows the image to only show the uniform, without the eye being distracted by (for instance) a possible enemy combatant or the lines of (ruined?) houses reaching into the distance. The images are thus, in other words, perhaps the best encyclopedic tools to depict what they set out to depict. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:35, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK main page move late: queues empty and preps full
Chris, I'm not sure whether you or Cas Liber will see this message first (I'm doing the same on both your pages again)—I just logged in and found that the DYK promotion to main page is overdue, the queues are empty, and the preps (surprisingly) are all full. If you get there first, thanks for anything you can do. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:45, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

http://iiif.lib.harvard.edu/manifests/view/drs:46573110$6i
Would you consider grabbing Priscilla Horton from this? Though, honestly, there's a lot of good stuff in that volume, and I'll happily do anything you grab, especially the colour images. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:11, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I think I remember how to get those. I'll see what I can do later. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:08, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured article/August 8, 2016
My past questions to music wikiprojects haven't gotten responses, and I don't have anyone to ask questions for this one. It was promoted in 2007, and the nominator is long gone. The lead says: "the band's second highest U.S. chart position to date". Below the lead: "this ranked as the band's highest chart position to date". The lead says: "Lyrics, particularly in the song "Jihad", describe the September 11 attacks from a terrorist perspective. A Mumbai-based Christian group, the Catholic Secular Forum, was outraged by this and thus demanded a recall." Below the lead, the concern was for "the sensibilities of the Muslims...and secular Indians ...". Thoughts? I'm not sure I can write TFA text for this one that I have confidence in. - Dank (push to talk) 03:09, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I only selected this after checking User:Dweller's subpage. User:Casliber took a look at this one last February and said it looked ready, and I didn't see any major referencing gaps. I read "to date" as being "until that time", and we can probably implement the change in the article as well. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:25, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Changed to as of 2015, per Slayer discography — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:28, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I might be getting sick (norovirus maybe) ... if so, I'll have another look in a few days. - Dank (push to talk) 09:15, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

GAR request
I saw your previous reviews. Can you review this film article for GA. --Charles Turing (talk) 11:38, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm in the thick of writing some papers right now. Maybe I'll have time in a few weeks, but ATM I don't. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:50, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

The birds for TFA
With a date-related bird requested for 1 September, I am not so happy about a bird on 12 August which seems to have no date relation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Three weeks is plenty of time. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:09, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I trust you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:33, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

The Arrest of Pangeran Diponegoro
Crisco, bagian pengantar pada artikel The Arrest of Pangeran Diponegoro ditambah donk biar ntar artikel di WBI-nya bisa menyandurnya untuk dijadikan AP di WBI. --What a joke (talk) 03:30, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Artikelnya memang belum matang. Saya dulu mau bikin GA, tapi karena ada yang mem-bully saya stop di tengah proses penulisan. Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 05:18, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Samiun dan Dasima
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

TFL notification
Hi, Crisco. I'm just posting to let you know that List of film directors of the Dutch East Indies – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for August 22. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008  ( Talk ) 20:22, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

TFA
Hi Crisco, I don't want Abu Nidal to be TFA, because I wrote it so long ago and don't have time or inclination to check or update it. I objected the last time this was suggested for the same reason. SarahSV (talk) 05:12, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright. I'll switch it with something else. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:15, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. SarahSV (talk) 08:04, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Opposite, or do you object: Today's featured article/requests/September Morn? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

PD question
We're presently working on Club Harlem and would like to use some photos of the club from old newspapers. The Pittsburgh Courier is a now defunct African-American newspaper; the photos in question were published in it in 1964. I've been through the entire paper and haven't found any copyright marks, nor any record of registration for the title in the UPenn books. It makes sense to me that smaller newspapers probably didn't spend the money to register their editions, as that would mean 365 copyright fees for one year alone for a daily and 52 for a weekly one. The club closed in 1986 with the building being torn down circa 1992-1933 after storm damage. Everything else I've seen re: photos of the club are more recent than 1964 and are under copyright, so was hoping this might work out as PD-pre 1978 with no copyright mark. Thanks!! We hope (talk) 14:05, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Should be fine, I think. Does the newspaper credit anyone?Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 18:04, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I see no credits on any of the 4 photos used in the article. They may have been provided to the paper by the club. Thanks again! We hope (talk) 18:31, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Es teler
How is it? Is it worth buying a two-foot long jackfruit for? Do you ever eat or cook with jackfruit? Drmies (talk) 20:47, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not a fan of es teler, to be honest. Don't use Jackfruit much either, except for gudeg. Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 11:23, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Hey, I can't wait to visit you. :) Drmies (talk) 20:08, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured article/August 18, 2016
Chris, I'm recovering from surgery, would you mind doing this one? - Dank (push to talk) 22:39, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:23, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks much. The last sentence needs work. - Dank (push to talk) 09:07, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:11, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Question
Chris - I'm having an issue at Commons over a portrait I uploaded for a BLP. The person in the image is also the copyright holder, and properly submitted an email to Commons stating copyright ownership, it was a work for hire, and the image was freely licensed under CC-BY-SA 4.0 A deletionist decided the license wasn't adequate for Commons so I started a discussion on the noticeboard to keep it from being deleted. My fault for uploading to Commons not realizing I wasn't uploading locally. Is there a way you can move the image here, or will it require a delete and separate upload? It's an infobox portrait. Thx in advance...Atsme 📞📧 07:36, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * A delete and separate upload. Could you send me a link to the discussion? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:43, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * OTRS/N Atsme 📞📧 08:22, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

TFA tracking
We're falling behind with Media-related articles – editors aren't nominating them. We need about half-a-dozen of these before the end of Sept to meet the nominal quota; I doubt we'll do that, but we ought to take steps. I think it's a case of ignoring anniversaries which some editors appear to set great store by, but forget when it comes to nominating. That's what I intend to do in September. Brianboulton (talk) 09:25, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * We've got that Star Trek episode coming up on the 1st, and I was thinking of putting in a film during the next batch. Perhaps Prometheus. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:11, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Is this okay to upload under PD-US-nonotice? 01:22, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you have any evidence that there was no notice on the reverse? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:27, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Christie's state what's on the reverse, without mentioning any copyright text. Or am I misreading that? Adam Cuerden (talk)
 * I can't find anything on that page about the reverse. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:18, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured article/August 25, 2016
Following my usual rules for creating TFA text, the text for this one would sound very much like the last two recent TFAs on Sesame Street. Are there other options for this date? - Dank (push to talk) 09:47, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * When was the last Sesame Street article run? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:50, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * July 20. - Dank (push to talk) 13:11, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, will change when I get back to my laptop. Sorry. The baby started walking today and we're getting him some martabak manis to celebrate. Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 13:56, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Exciting! - Dank (push to talk) 14:40, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

On Poedjangga Baroe, HB Jassin and other matters
Hi Crisco, it's me again. Since our last conversation I has translated numerous pieces on Indonesian cinema, politics, and recently literature in Chinese Wikipedia; (though some nominations is affected by worsening environment of Chinese Wikipedia, but nonetheless they passed.) But again I would like to raise some questions I found during my works: Best wishes, -- Spring Roll Conan ( Talk · Contributions ) 11:07, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) What's shown in the article Poedjangga Baroe and a book I borrowed from a public library contradicts. In the article it states that Moh. Yamin's Ken Arok dan Ken Dedes is first published on 'Poedjangga Baroe', when the book states that the play is first acted on a gala for the Youth Congress in 1928. Though there may be possibilities that the written work is first published publicly on 'Poedjangga Baroe'.
 * 2) I have an intent to translate the article HB Jassin. The article cited Tokohindonesia.com as one of its sources, but I doubt whether it's a reputable source to cite. (One of another Indonesian article I intend to write faced the same problem.)
 * 3) Also I would like to ask if you can access to older issues of The Jakarta Post or Tempo, regarding my quest on id:Pembicaraan Wikipedia:Kedutaan. You can ignore it if you mind.
 * . Not a contradiction. The first publication of the script followed well after the performance. Publishing scripts was relatively uncommon then (Allah jang Palsoe lists some examples of near-contemporary Chinese-Indonesian scripts, and notes the point). Even some relatively major plays, like Dr. Samsi, appear to have only been published several years later (1930 vs. 1950s, for Dr. Samsi).
 * Agree. I would not cite those today (that article is from... almost four years ago, I think). I have several books on Jassin that I've been meaning to use to write a proper article, but I haven't had the opportunity.
 * Tempo has a (relatively hard to use) online archive, but it's pay per article. I have some money left in my Tempo account if there are any specific articles you're looking for. The Jakarta Post has articles online dating back to 1999, but nothing earlier. I think you'd have to actually go to their offices to use their digital archives (as with Kompas), assuming they've digitized. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:41, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Any spare time coming up?
Hi Chris, I've recently been working on a biography of a fascinating and important figure, Josephine Butler. The lady is now at PR for comment and consideration, and if you have the time and inclination I'd be grateful for any comments you may have—particularly about the images. Cheers – SchroCat (talk)
 * I wish I could, but I have five+ conferences in the pipeline and a dissertation proposal which really needs to be tidied up. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:05, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * No problems! I hope it smooths out for you sometime soon. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 10:28, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Quick image question
I'd like to get Eugene Kaspersky to donate some of his photography to Wikimedia Commons under a free license. His photos are of professional quality and many are of significant landmarks. For example, I asked if he could release his photographs of the Aragats volcano in Armenia.. He released the images, but added a small watermark in the corner identifying the source. Is that allowed? CorporateM (Talk) 17:16, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Per commons:Commons:Watermarks, it's discouraged, but not forbidden. At least with such small watermarks. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:42, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Template:POTD/2016-08-31
Thanks for changing the picture. I added the image to WP:POTD/Unused too. Armbrust The Homunculus 13:14, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I should have done that last year. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:20, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Film/Golden Hollywood Contest
Doc's just started up this contest about topics and articles covering Classical Hollywood cinema. Do express if you are interested or not by signing up under the "Editors Interested" section. Thanks. — Ssven2  Speak 2 me 09:10, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Possible featured list proposal
Hello Crisco, having read the WP:FLC intro, I am looking for experienced editors to consult. I am considering nominating List of Georgetown University alumni for FLC and would be interested in your opinion before doing so. I would appreciate any thoughts you might have on the matter.  Ergo Sum  00:59, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

FAC voluntary mentoring scheme
During a recent lengthy discussion on the WP:FAC talkpage, several ideas were put forward as to how this procedure could be improved, particularly in making it more user-friendly towards first-time nominees. The promotion rate for first-timers at FAC is depressingly low – around 16 percent – which is a cause for concern. To help remedy this, Mike Christie and I, with the co-operation of the FAC coordinators, have devised a voluntary mentoring scheme, in which newcomers will guided by more experienced editors through the stages of preparation and submission of their articles. The general format of the scheme is explained in more detail on Mentoring for FAC, which also includes a list of editors who have indicated that they are prepared to act as mentors.

Would you be prepared to take on this role occasionally? If so, please add your name to the list. By doing so you incur no obligation; it will be entirely for you to decide how often and on which articles you want to act in this capacity. We anticipate that the scheme will have a trial run for a few months before we appraise its effectiveness. Your participation will be most welcome. Brianboulton (talk) 16:56, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the head's up. Unfortunately, at the current time I cannot guarantee that I will have sufficient spare time to provide guidance. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:27, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

File:Dendrogramma enigmatica sp. nov., holotype.png at POTD
I'd forgotten about that. Would be it be possible to hold it back until the start of open access week on October 24?©Geni (talk) 12:13, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure ©Geni. I'm at a seminar ATM, but I'll do that when I am able to get to my laptop. Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 07:17, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Swap POTD for Sept 6 and Sept 9
Hi Crisco 1492,

I am on a mobile device and cannot easily edit from here...

I just realized that the current Sept 9 POTD og Viborg Karedralskole has the wrong date to properly match the birthday of the architect (Sept 6), which is referred to in the caption.

Could it be swapped with the bird sept 6 POTD on short notice? The bird pic by does not appear to be linked with a specific date.

Sorry for the hazzle! Maybe it is I who originally requested a wrong date for the POTD appearance.

- Slaunger (talk) 11:16, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * No, it looks like I made the mistake. Fixed now. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:25, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks for fixing it so fast! -- Slaunger (talk) 13:51, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Your opinion...
Hi Chris- I want to replace the lead image in Blackness Castle with one of two images: #1 or #2. It would be a setup for a delist and replace of the current image (which makes me lean toward #1). Any thoughts? Thanks.--Godot13 (talk) 18:02, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm worried that the suggested versions would be opposed for being too far out. It's good for seeing the surroundings, but too much empty space for the infobox image. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:28, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd be using a css image crop for the infobox, unless you think it needs to have a hard crop to split the difference...--Godot13 (talk) 03:46, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Might be doable, like that. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:05, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Catherine Zeta-Jones
Hey Crisco, I noticed that the references that were disputed are removed now. Can you put back Catherine Zeta-Jones as a TFA in late September? I think it's far more interesting subject than the Vietnamese general and would attract greater attention. If no one disputes the article as it currently is, I think it should be back.--Retrohead (talk) 19:22, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The discussion on the talk page is not over yet, by the looks of things. I am not a subscriber to the idea of things going in and going out: it was pulled, at the author's request, and can wait until next year. "Interesting", meanwhile, is subjective, and certainly not a metric to be used in determining TFA. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:44, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
 * My suggestion was to re-schedule the article for later (thinking late September/early October) when the discussion is over. I see there is one issue left, but I believe that it will be resolved in the upcoming days.--Retrohead (talk) 11:37, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

TFA – over to you
September is scheduled, and the various supporting lists are all up to date. Good hunting! Brianboulton (talk) 21:06, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Great! Cheers! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:29, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Military history WikiProject coordinator election
Greetings from the Military history WikiProject! Elections for the Military history WikiProject Coordinators are currently underway, and as a member of the WikiProject you are cordially invited to take part by casting your vote(s) for the candidates on the election page. This year's election will conclude at 23:59 UTC 23 September. For the Coordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:01, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

POTD notification, FPC
Re Template:POTD/2016-10-02 (Baluschek), I changed one word, making it gloom stedda dankness. (The latter isn't in everyday usage.) Sca (talk)
 * PS: Chris, please understand that my initial opposition to the Lies Noor nomination wasn't based on bigotry or any sort of ethnic prejudice. I stated my reasons at FPC and there's no need to rehash that here. Suffice it to say, they didn't carry the day, and the nomination looks set to be promoted.
 * Sca (talk) 14:58, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright. I've updated the article to use the "gloom" translation. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:31, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I have to admit I haven't heard "dankness" either, though it's growing on me :) - Dank (push to talk) 12:48, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, ngrams sure isn't lying about how rare the term is in Google Books. Mind, dankness is seeing a bit of an increase, while gloom is seeing decreased use. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:51, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

TFA text
Thanks again for great selections in August, it makes the job of writing interesting TFA text so much easier.

I can save you a little work, and it will work out better for me as well ... I'd rather you just copy the leads straight into TFA without fixing various wording problems in the first sentence. It sometimes confuses me when you do that ... for instance, at Today's featured article/August 29, 2016 and Today's featured article/October 3, 2016, the first sentence threw me a little. - Dank (push to talk) 12:45, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright. I thought a few wording tweaks would help, since we need to get the bolded link first in the blurb. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:49, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I appreciate you putting in the effort, and there wasn't anything wrong with your version. It's just that my copyediting is, in part, a negotiation ... the writer(s) wants to say things a certain way, and I try to give them as much rope as I can. If I'm not looking at the words they used (and if I'm not aware of that), it changes the process. - Dank (push to talk) 16:08, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:37, 20 September 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Lies Noor
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gadis Arivia
Hello! Your submission of Gadis Arivia at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --DYKReviewBot (report bugs) 21:37, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured picture
Hi! For a special setup like today's, please make sure that the relevant images are protected manually (at Commons or via local uploads) or listed at WP:CMP. Otherwise, KrinkleBot will protect only one file at a time. (It's been switching back and forth between the two all day.)

I just protected both of today's images at Commons.

Thanks! —David Levy 11:41, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah. Thanks for the heads up. Do you have the bit on Commons? It would probably be easier for me to contact you in such instances. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:36, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, feel free to contact me whenever protection of a Commons file is needed. —David Levy 21:23, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Great. Will do. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:46, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

Battle of Hastings TFA request 14 October
There may be a problem with this request, as an editor has invoked WP:DRN over a content dispute that has blown up on the article's talk. I imagine that you'll be wanting to schedule this date pretty soon; in that case, it may be worth using a placeholder for 14th until the dispute is resolved. If you need a standby, I'd be happy for you to use The Ordeal of Gilbert Pinfold, though you may have a better option. Brianboulton (talk) 10:44, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. Would be nice to have another literature article, so it's a good placeholder! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:48, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Footers
Chris, Gerda pointed out that you're using September in the October footers. I fixed the first four. - Dank (push to talk) 20:58, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Art got the rest. - Dank (push to talk) 00:24, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks. Sorry for the late reply. I just woke up about an hour ago, and after some quick edits I went for a walk with the baby. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * How's the baby? - Dank (push to talk) 01:35, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * He's in a daycare now, so he has friends to play with during the weekdays. Growing really quickly. I think he's already 35 inches in height. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:37, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
 * That's big. - Dank (push to talk) 01:39, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Royal Albert Hall
I'm not sure I agree with you that the square crop is a "much better view". The greater vertical height is higher than one's eyesight would normally offer (you'd have to look up) and starts causing perspective distortion (the discs appear to face the viewer, rather than the floor). It does show more of the arena, but unfortunately there's a lot of stage-construction material there, which might be confusing for a lead image -- it isn't immediately clear that this view isn't typical for an audience, but is taken long before a performance is ready.

Combined with Diliff's outside view, I think the 16:9 format is better in that it doesn't steal even more vertical height in the infobox. Two images are already unusual, so having an extra large one might encourage some people to simply remove it.

I added a view lower down the article that shows the ceiling. So this makes it much less useful to show so much of the ceiling in the lead photo.

-- Colin°Talk 09:04, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I do prefer having the greater field of view, personally, but your points are well taken. I'll self revert — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:13, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Indonesian Wikipedia help needed
Hello, there is a photo uploaded on Indonesian Wikipedia that was stolen from this website here. You will note that his photo was deleted on the English Wikipedia. The problem is that I am not sure how to delete a File on Indonesian Wikipedia and can't understand the language. Would you mind directing me? Thanks! — Sunnya343&#9992; (háblame • my work) 01:15, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Sunnya343, I see that it was deleted, by I'm almost certain that it wasn't from the website you're linking. That page was posted in 2015, whereas the Indonesian Wikipedia image was uploaded in 2014. Considering the laissez faire attitude a lot of the Indonesian Wikipedia editors have towards copyright, I'd need more of a smoking gun than "low resolution, no EXIF data". — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:40, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * My apologies, actually I think the image was stolen from an aviation photographer's Flickr account here. The photo was taken in April 2013. — Sunnya343&#9992; (háblame • my work) 01:55, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's it. I'll nominate the Indonesian image for deletion. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:57, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok thank you! — Sunnya343&#9992; (háblame • my work) 02:29, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Do you think ... ?
Hi Chris, is in the category of Indonesian editors and I wonder if you might consider or think it worthwhile to explain or warn in Indonesian about edit warring, talk page consensus etc? They have been warned on their talk page about their edits on Maddie Ziegler and seem set to continue. I'm wondering if it's a language problem especially as they've left what [to me anyway] is a rather bizarre message on my talk page of "Women cause wars, that is the reason why we do edit-warring"? I know you're busy though. SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:12, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Ugh, infoboxes. Okay, I've left a message. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:14, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks ... in this instance I was more concerned it was a language difficulty rather than the subject matter. I wasn't trying to drag you into the cesspit as I wouldn't wish it on anyone but yes, I know, sorry. SagaciousPhil  - Chat 11:31, 5 October 2016 (UTC) I see the baby is growing up fast and keeping you busy; he's so cute!
 * Language difficulty: cold you please explain what "cesspit" means, and - once I'm here - "bardardise an article"? - I do understand idiot because we have the same word (which I won't use unless for myself). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:39, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Gerda, you're a great editor, but considering the number of editors we've lost in the past year alone to infobox drama, I'd rather we avoid the subject here. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:16, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I will look up then what a cesspit is, just a word I don't know. I still miss GFHandel, on top of recent losses, whom we lost to an infobox discussion in 2013 - Why a thing that looks harmless to me causes so much emotion remains a mystery to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * ps:, up to a certain point --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:47, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gadis Arivia
Hello! Your submission of Gadis Arivia at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 11:57, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

10,000 Asia Challenge
Hi, I wondered if you'd be interested in joining WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge based on The 10,000 Challenge and WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge? The idea is to showcase the work being done on wikipedia across the continent, and inspire more people to create and work on countries which might not usually get much attention (like Iraq and Turkmenistan etc) and then possibly running some contests to bring in new editors. Could be a way to highlight work needing doing for Indonesia and draw in new editors! Or perhaps set up a 1000 Challenge for South East Asia feeding into it? Not sure, but if interested add your name to the participants and I'll consider setting something up later in the month.♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:19, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Gadis Arivia
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

TFA pings
Sorry, I'm still not sure. When image issues like this one come up, would you prefer a ping? - Dank (push to talk) 16:05, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
 * A ping couldn't hurt. I'm on holiday ATM, though, so I wouldn't have gotten it.Crisco 1492 mobile (talk) 00:22, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Élizabeth Teissier
I am SERIOUSLY growing tired of this 4-month HELL of a DYK nom. Can it just get on the fucking main page already, without constant objections to everything? The latest one? An objection to sources being in French - WHICH ISN'T EVEN A VALID OBJECTION. If you can't read French, you AGF or fire up Google Translate. You don't reject it on that ground. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:37, 3 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Chris, this isn't an objection to the nomination, which I've been trying to get moved along, but it's a question about the image in the article, File:Elizabeth Teissier.jpg. There's something that's off about this image. It might be the angle of the face against the hair, that the face and arm seem brighter than the rest, or something else entirely. (It was enough so that when the photo was introduced on the nominations page very late in the game, I objected to its addition.) The file is on Commons, and has an OTRS permission, but I'm wondering how an image uploaded by the subject—which certainly has the look of a professional portrait rather than a self-portrait—can be licensed for free use by said subject. (Though it could well be the photographer who has released the rights to the image.) If this is a photoshopped portrait, is it acceptable for Wikipedia? What is the policy? Or am I just seeing things here? Thanks for your opinion. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:02, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks like she claims to hold the copyright over the image (ayant-droit means "rights holder"). If that was sufficient for OTRS (pinging Bapti, who appears to have handled the OTRS request and may be able to shed more light on the image), then it's sufficient for me. As for the manipulation: the image has obviously been manipulated to remove the background (her hair has a fuzzy grey line around it) and the lack of skill in doing so makes me doubt that her head was superimposed over her body. Her arm is of about the same brightness as her face, which suggests that a rather strong flash was used. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:11, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Chris, thanks for looking into it. It was the angle and the difference in foreground hair vs. background hair that still, to me, looks off, but that could be caused by other, natural things as you note. I don't think it would make a good DYK lead hook with that image, even if the file is freely released, and that assumes that the DYK eventually gets approved. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:29, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Chris, someone just posted this link on the article talk page to another use of this same picture, this time with a filled-in background, and dating from September 2005. (It looked photoshopped to this person as well.) BlueMoonset (talk) 05:51, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Today's featured article/October 27, 2016‎
The article might be okay if it's had a lot of independent review, but FWIW, the nominator was blocked as a very prolific, and badly behaved, sockmaster. At first glance, it's not an impressive article. - Dank (push to talk) 19:04, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought I remembered some issues with this article. Do you have a link to previous discussion? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:55, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Ian, as a reviewer, what do you think? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:59, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * EEng works at Harvard and might know something about this guy. (Personally, I'd be inclined to do as we did with ItsLassieTime and automatically send everything ColonelHenry wrote to FAR with a presumption that it will be delisted unless other people come forward to defend it—this did happen at at least one ILT article so delisting isn't a foregone conclusion.) &#8209; Iridescent 10:02, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * You rang? I'm not sure how I can help. He's notable, but you don't need me to tell you that. I don't work for Harvard, by the way (though to maintain the air of mystery I'll admit that I sometimes work at Harvard).  E Eng  11:34, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * One problem is that Caspersen died in 2009, and I don't know if the estate (i.e. the legal proceeding that resolves his financial affairs) is over yet; if it's not, then we've got gray-area BLP issues to consider. Another problem is discussed in one of the article's sources (search for the guy's name); the inflammatory claims are made based on a single reporter's story, based on a single anonymous source, and that source has been contradicted. Another problem is the suicide: it's unfair to paint such a vague picture, implying that it might have been a psychiatric problem, or it might have been out of desperation over financial improprieties ... or maybe it was just like he said in his suicide note (he was a 67 year old man in constant pain from cancer and other conditions, with no sign that things would ever improve). Eventually, there will probably be better sources available to settle some of these questions. - Dank (push to talk) 11:35, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * An open estate won't prolong BLP.  E Eng  11:39, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * That's what I mean by "gray area". Some of the same reasoning that drives BLP policy could be said to apply ... that is, the possibility of great harm still exists as long as everything a person owned is still at risk. - Dank (push to talk) 11:42, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Alright, switched with the Norse-American medal. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:04, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I have no objection to Iri's suggestion, either. - Dank (push to talk) 12:23, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry I'm late to the discussion... I recused from coord duties to copyedit/review this when it was at FAC, and have kept it on my watchlist, occasionally reverting vandalism and significant undiscussed changes. I felt it was as neutrally worded as could be expected by the time it was promoted but I didn't conduct a spotcheck of sources. I ran Earwig on it not long ago and the major instance of close comparison seemed to mainly involve properly marked quotes from the source, so unless I missed something I don't think it's necessarily a risk but I welcome other thoughts. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 15:21, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

FYI
Drmies (talk) 15:52, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Interesting. I'll have to take time to look through that. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:59, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Dartford Crossing
In all likelihood you will want no part of this, but if you somehow have a few hours on your hands, your name's come up a few times in relation to what significance your prior GA review holds here, given my identification of what I think are several pretty serious issues (at least one of which you seemed to spot yourself - why Charges is above History). As soon as I tried to fix them, I was reverted, on grounds this article "can't have that many problems as it is a good article and undergoing an A-Class review, and certainly nobody else has identified any significant problems with it." I feel like I am being rebuffed by this person, the main author, Ritchie333, simply for reasons of pride and/or personal preference, and that no real effort is being made by anyone, not him or those now coming to his defence, to counter my observations, even though my reasoning stems from objective evidence, fundamental good practice and what appears to be standard practice on Wikipedia. Everything I have seen in terms of actual Wikipedia documentation here has supported my view, while Ritchie seems to think he merely has to point to a page like 5P and somehow it represents support for his view. Bizarrely, my efforts to precisely detail my reasoning so others know exactly where I am coming from so they might know where my errors are, if I have made any, has also been used against me, with it being waved away dismissively as TL;DR by both Ritchie and the person who first turned up to blindly agree with everything he said (and is presently engaged in combined opposition with Ritchie against people actively trying to fix the article over another issue, which I have taken on too now, in the lower section). As Ritchie referred to in the review at the time, I think this article is probably no longer a Good Article simply by virtue of how many times he and others seem to be automatically reverting people like me, just to preserve his preferred version, while counter-intuitively claiming it's perfectly fine and nobody has any issues with it. Clearly they do, otherwise it wouldn't now be unstable, and he wouldn't have had to take the step of protecting it, an issue I've also detailed on the talk page. He's clearly trying to brush issues under the carpet, or send them down blind alleys, such as his suggestion I use the talk page or file a dispute complaint (which appears to be nothing but a bureaucratic clusterfuck), knowing full well these issues don't really interest other people to the point they're going to go against him or his apparent reputation as a respected user. Hopefully none of this conduct sits well with you, if you're the sort of person who takes on tasks like reviews with the aim of objectively assessing quality here, and hopefully you can set the record straight as far as the merits, or otherwise, of my observations, without bias or any deference to the fact he wrote most of it and I simply rocked up here off the street, as he put it. Or reconfirm your review finding that this is still a Good Article. As you wish. Clarion Collar (talk) 02:10, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Speaking of clusterfuck: . Drmies (talk) 15:54, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Lovely. More socks to play whack-a-mole with. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:02, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Asian 10,000 Challenge invite
Hi. The WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland The 10,000 Challenge and WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like South East Asia, Japan/China or India etc, much like The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. At some stage we hope to run some contests to benefit Asian content, a destubathon perhaps, aimed at reducing the stub count would be a good place to start, based on the current WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon which has produced near 200 articles in just three days. If you would like to see this happening for Asia, and see potential in this attracting more interest and editors for the country/countries you work on please sign up and being contributing to the challenge! This is a way we can target every country of Asia, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant! Thank you. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:31, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

DYK Queues
I've noticed they've gone empty again. Thought you should know. Adam Cuerden (talk) 10:10, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Shipbuilding
Hello, Chris -- I was just looking at Shipbuilding, and in the section Shipbuilding, there is a box for an image, and a caption, but the image does not appear. Can you take a look and see what's wrong? – Corinne (talk) 23:38, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

WP:FADC
Chris, what should I do when I find an article at FADC that isn't up to snuff? (Dietrich v The Queen is an article about a major Australian constititional law case that doesn't reference any other constitutional law cases that preceded it or followed from it.) - Dank (push to talk) 01:55, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I've just been skipping them. It may be prudent to start marking them red, or adding them to Dweller's list. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:28, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Okay, that's what I did, I changed the check mark on Dweller's list to a red cross. Thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 12:25, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Chris and Brian, I've got proposed articles for the rest of the month at Today's featured article/recent TFAs/November 2016. Would love to hear your thoughts. I really like date connections and wanted to stay as close to the average monthly tallies (I've updated that chart for Nov btw) as possible; given those two constraints, my hands were mostly tied. The list is slightly US-heavy, but we can balance that out in December or January. I had to pull my suggested article for the 26th, the FAC nommer says it isn't ready ... any suggestions for that date? My tally for the month shows I'm slightly short on sports; also, art & architecture and physics & astronomy haven't gotten much love lately. After I get your feedback, I'll update WP:FADC and WP:FANDC. Bencherlite has offered to help with housekeeping this month; Bench, would you like to update Brian's notepad? Note that I'm slightly over on Media and slightly under on Music, which more or less cancels out I suppose, since many readers won't notice the difference. Also note that I have quite a few very old featured articles (perhaps the result of more slavishly following date connections), but I also tend to rely heavily on articles from the past couple of years when I run out of date connections, so there's a mix of both. - Dank (push to talk) 23:31, 29 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Looks pretty good. For the 26th, why not have a painting? Warlugong could work; helps address the US-centricity of some of the other selections. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:38, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I added that to the list. When we get to mid-December, I'll be happy to start scheduling January if that works for you. - Dank (push to talk) 01:33, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * We'll need to get working on finding a replacement for Brian in the meantime... — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:13, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * We can talk about that now, if you like. You've talked about a heavy workload lately; would you prefer to schedule every other month or every third month? - Dank (push to talk) 02:26, 30 October 2016 (UTC) (P.S. I'm asking because the top two people who come to mind both have limited time, and maybe limited inclination, too ... it might be easier to get one of them on board if they're only scheduling one month out of three.) - Dank (push to talk) 03:30, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Make that three people ... I emailed you the names. - Dank (push to talk) 04:29, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Indonesia
The section Cinema in article Indonesia has a dead link, and I find out that it is the same as a previous reference, and I checked it but it fails verification since the films and actors in the paragraph are not found in the source. Here is the paragraph:


 * The industry reached its peak in the 1980s, with such successful films as Nagabonar (1987) and Catatan Si Boy (1989). Warkop's comedy films, directed by Arizal also proved to be successful. The industry has also found appeal among teens with such fare as Pintar-pintar Bodoh (1982), and Maju Kena Mundur Kena (1984). Actors during this era included Deddy Mizwar, Eva Arnaz, Meriam Bellina, and Rano Karno.

Previously the reference is just a bare link with text Kompas. The text is also found in article Cinema of Indonesia (the reference is footnote 33). Can you help to find a source? Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 09:48, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * How is it a dead link? The archive link (the one that reads https://web.archive.org/web/20080113052204/http://www.kompas.com/kompas-cetak/0507/02/Bentara/1857854.htm) still works. Kompas website purges old articles every once in a while; there's no chance of finding a 2005 article on the current site. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:29, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * It was previously a dead link, then I found the archive and add it to the article, then I found that ref 233 is exactly the same. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 15:23, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry. I misread your post. None of this is incorrect, but I don't think I have any sources at hand that state everything in a single source. Production (in terms of numbers) peaked around 88/89 (as seen here, derived from Kristanto's catalogue). Nagabonar was a critical hit, receiving seven Citras (source), and four films in the Catatan Si Boy series were among the best-selling in the Jakarta area (source). Warkop's films were mostly commercial successes (hence why there are so many), including the two mentioned in that list source). Frankly, if I had access to Krishna Sen's book on cinema in New Order Indonesia, I'd try to write a much better section on situation of cinema in 1980s Indonesia. There's so much that the current article is lacking, such as the rise of the 21 network and the cineplex model, the issue of censorship, and the rise of home media (Betamax, VCD, etc.) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:13, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Joanna Clapps Herman
Hey there, I am interested in rewriting an article for writer Joanna Clapps Herman that I worked on several years ago. I now have much more experience as a Wiki editor and would like to take another chance. I know she was previously deleted for being deemed as not notable, but I have additional third-party articles and other accomplishments that I did not include before. I fear many Italian American writers are deemed not notable due to the history of Italian Americans in the US. I'm much more aware of Wiki's notability guidelines and I would like another chance. Do you have any advice or thoughts on how I should proceed? Srdemuro (talk) 16:19, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I previously userfied the page for you at User:Srdemuro/Joanna Clapps Herman. You haven't worked on it since 2014. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:37, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

Template:POTD/2016-11-17
The image you originally choose for that day (File:Orion Head to Toe.jpg) already run as a POTD on 2015-02-24, so I replaced it with File:Lord Frederic Leighton - Cymon and Iphigenia - Google Art Project.jpg. Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 00:13, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Email
01:54, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

Pecel Pitik
Good luck! Drmies (talk) 02:38, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Baton over to you
I've scheduled November, and I worked on a bunch of files, including Dweller's list, WP:TFANO, and your and Brian's list of monthly tallies of scheduled TFAs by category, which is now at User:Dank/TFA (but feel free to move it). I converted some of the tallies to totals for readability. I didn't work on WP:FA2016; that page hasn't been updated consistently, and it may not be as useful as the FACBot-generated WP:FANMP. I didn't use your and Brian's notepad (although the extra details are nice) ... personally, I would be happier with two new FACBot-generated pages; one would start with WP:FANMP, and stop alphabetizing the results and add year markers (so that articles are sorted by category and year); the other would take it one step further, subtracting every article it finds in WP:FADC. I updated WP:TFAP, filled in WP:TFAREC, and deleted the articles I used from WP:FADC and WP:FANDC. I didn't add to those two; I'm wondering what rules we should use for the first, and wondering if we can automate the second. User:Hawkeye7's work on FACBot to automate the recentlists is ongoing; it always gets the articles right, which is a big help, but it still futzes the styling and some of the article names. Art LaPella has been diligently fixing them. I'm mostly done with the TFA text, with help from Johnboddie. I will probably replace the article on the Vietnamese general, unless people can locate sources for that. Over to you. - Dank (push to talk) 15:16, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Hawkeye is reporting progress. - Dank (push to talk) 21:44, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Excellent. I'll start scheduling ASAP. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:55, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

About Dec 1 etc. ... it's not necessary to do the recentlist any more. In some (maybe all) cases, Hawkeye's bot will overwrite whatever is there. - Dank (push to talk) 02:02, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Great. Then it's just a matter of leaving notification on the article talk pages and, where possible, contacting primary authors. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:04, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Right, I see you're relying on the "maindate=" for the article talk page notification ... I did the same, and that seemed to work fine. - Dank (push to talk) 02:46, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

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Article deletion
If the consensus is delete, why the article is not yet deleted? 180.245.210.197 (talk) 11:42, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

After long time!
Hey Cris,

Hope you doing good.

Am here for a reason. I have noticed that, some of my clicks which became FP's of wikipedia has been removed by somebody from the articles and added new ones. I undid the same saying that, while replacing FP, discuss the same though I have no idea about the process of discussion. Hope you will be able to guide me how to start a discussion or kindly have a look at articles of Bharathanatyam and Mohiniyattam. DreamSparrow  Chat   16:24, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Your opinion is requested
Hi. Can you offer your opinion on which photo is better in this discussion? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 02:11, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

A new user right for New Page Patrollers
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New Page Review needs your help
Hi ,

As an AfC reviewer you're probably aware that a new user right has been created for patrolling new pages (you might even have been granted the right already, and admins have it automatically).

Since July there has been a very serious backlog at Special:NewPagesFeed of over 14,000 pages, by far the worst since 2011, and we need an all out drive to get this back down to just a few hundred that can be easily maintained in the future. Unlike AfC, these pages are already in mainspace, and the thought of what might be there is quite scary. There are also many good faith article creators who need a simple, gentle push to the Tea House or their pages converted to Draft rather than being deleted. Although New Page Reviewing can occasionally be somewhat more challenging than AfC, the criteria for obtaining the right are roughly the same. The Page Curation tool is even easier to use than the Helper Script, so it's likely that most AfC reviewers already have more than enough knowledge for the task of New Page Review.

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Nomination of Kepompong for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Kepompong is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Kepompong until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Template:POTD/2016-12-17/6
That image isn't used in the St Paul's Cathedral article. So, IMO, that link shouldn't be bolded in the caption. What do you think? Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 16:59, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm for leaving it, as it's still part of the set. We can consider delisting at another time. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:35, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Painting by Charles Christian Nahl
Hello, Chris -- I was just looking at the article Isthmus of Panama, and a painting by Charles Christian Nahl caught my attention, so I clicked on the image to read more. I then read the article about the painter. I saw the same painting in the gallery of the article on Nahl, but the caption was different.

The caption of the painting in the article Isthmus of Panama is:


 * An 1850 oil painting by Charles Christian Nahl, titled, The Isthmus of Panama on the height of the Chagres River.

The caption of the painting in the gallery in the article on Charles Christian Nahl is:


 * Incident on the Chagres River (1850), now in the Bancroft Library,

which matches the title below the image, but when you click on "More details", you see the file name, which is in German:


 * Der Isthmus von Panama auf der Höhe des Chagres River.

It looks like the title in the first caption is an attempt at a translation from the German. It also seems like the painting has two different names. Would you say that one is wrong and the other is right (the German, and its translation), or that both are correct? It's a bit odd. – Corinne (talk) 03:08, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Can't really answer that, as it's quite far from my field of expertise. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:10, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

BBC 12-hour Editathon - large influx of new pages & drafts expected
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TFA scheduling
Usually I am happy with your scheduling, as especially with the Lt. nominated yesterday and scheduled today, but Annunciation (Memling) on December 22 will get Errors, because the day is 25 March. That won't work in 2017, though, because it's Good Friday, but probably in 2018. Even people not knowing about the March date for Annunciation will complain that pregnancy takes more than a few days ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with Gerda here; while I'm not generally a great fan of "date connections" at TFA, the Annunciation is so tied to Lady Day that running it during Advent is akin to running Independence Day (United States) in September. Plus, with Migration of the Serbs and Vincent van Gogh already running this month and assuming Hope is scheduled for next month, that will be a very high burn-off rate for visual arts, especially since Victoriaearle is no longer active so the stock is no longer being replenished at the same rate. &#8209; Iridescent 09:00, 7 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Adding another one (and that's why I knew about Good Friday being 25 March) : Crucifix (Cimabue, Santa Croce) that day, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:33, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmm... perhaps an architecture article instead. What do you think, Gerda Arendt, Iridescent? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:53, 7 December 2016 (UTC)


 * How about Hebron Church (Intermont, West Virginia)? Nice wintery image. - How about that for 9 Dec (we just had a mushroom, and moving that one to 22 Dec? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:48, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Asking here: Today's featured article/requests/Hebron Church (Intermont, West Virginia) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd go with that, as it's quite appropriate to feature a Christianity-related article at this time of year and I don't think we've had anything WVa related for a while (although it's still going to deplete the shrinking pool at WP:FANMP, since as far as your categories are concerned paintings and buildings are the same thing). &#8209; Iridescent 16:42, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll move it to Christmas. We're having a painting for POTD, so given that we have nothing explicitly Christmas-related for TFA it would still be thematic. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:22, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Music-making angels wanted
My Christmas gift 2016 is supposed to be a carol, requesting angels to come with instruments to play for the babe and for peace. I thought angelic concertos would be frequently pictured but couldn't find anything on the commons showing - 17th century German preferred - angels coming from heaven with instruments. The closest I found is Spanish, and too many donors, too few musicians, ignoring that coronation of Mary was no Lutheran idea, and what looks like a trumpet is an incense burner. Grown-up angels would be better. - I like the blue sky! Help? - I come here because of the lead of Christmas Oratorio, - also wrong date and style ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:07, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Is File:Jan van Eyck - The Ghent Altarpiece - Angels Playing Music (detail) - WGA07646.jpg from the Ghent Altarpiece what you're looking for, or is that going to be too early? &#8209; Iridescent 20:16, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Otherwise Ribalta's Madonna and Child with Music-Making Angels (not on Commons but in the PD and currently in the UK so can legally be downloaded from ArtUK) or the Master of Frankfurt's Holy Family with Music-Making Angels might fit the bill. If you just want angels with trumpets, rather than specifically nativities, you have endless examples in the works of Edward Burne-Jones and Evelyn de Morgan. &#8209; Iridescent 20:22, 7 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the suggestions. The van Eyck is too precious, - we talk a poor stable, and Thirty Years War, + they don't play, but rather pose or reflect, + no Heaven. The Ribalta is also not open to the sky, - will take the Master of Frankfurt for now, in addition. Will keep looking at the last ones. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:21, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

An idea...
for the POTD of 26 December: File:Serbian Christmas meal.jpg. What do you think? Armbrust The Homunculus 05:06, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Next year. We've already got a Christmas illustration. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:58, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Your opinion...
Hi Chris-

Could you take a quick look at this VI nomination and let me know if I'm either on or off target regarding the FoP issue. Many thanks in advance.--Godot13 (talk) 22:03, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
 * To the best of my knowledge, this is most likely not free. Aside from the "permanent display" question, there's also the question of how 3D something needs to be before it can be free under FoP laws. That looks quite shallow. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:45, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

File:Artati Marzuki-Sudirjo, Sang Saka Melanglang Djagad, p14.jpg listed for discussion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Artati Marzuki-Sudirjo, Sang Saka Melanglang Djagad, p14.jpg, has been listed at Files for discussion. Please see the to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 16:23, 20 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Struck above, thanks for the updates Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:04, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

File:Chairil Anwar Pelopor Angkatan '45 p 48.jpg
Where you being cautious here? Surely a 1945 image would have reasonably expired by now? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:34, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Because Indonesia's copyright is based on publication. Until I get an earlier publication (it's my understanding that Pelopor Angkatan '45 came out in the 1950s), I don't dare go to Commons. The images in Jassin's books appear to have changed from edition to edition; his 1962 version of Kesusastraan Indonesia Modern dalam Kritik dan Essai had some different images than the 1950s edition. We do have multiple images of the poet on Commons from other, earlier books, but none are the same as this one. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:27, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

File:Medan Prijaji (volume 4 issue 25).pdf
Being cautious? This looks on the basis of the editors death date to be PD in the US (as indicated). Was there a reason this and other issues couldn't be moved to Commons, so the relevant Wikisource could transcribe? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:43, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It's my understanding that, for magazines, the authors of the individual articles are assumed to maintain copyright; several Sundanese-language magazines on Commons were deleted this past summer for a similar reason. I may be wrong, however. That being said, I seem to remember that Wikisource only cares about the American copyright. If that's the case, a lot of the books I have uploaded might be able to be moved over there. I'll try asking in the WA group for WMID. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:30, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

File:Hartini Sukarno with Norodom Sihanouk and wife, Bung Karno Penjambung Lidah Rakjat 253.jpg
Being cautious and using publication date? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:10, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep. As I mentioned above, as Indonesia's photograph copyright terms are publication-based (well, government publications without a copyright notice can be freely reproduced), I don't upload old photographs to Commons unless I have actually have seen them in a publication that predates the cut-off point. Most photographs I scan end up on Commons, however. I focus on scanning works from the 1950s and earlier. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:35, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!
From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:03, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

smelling, or should that be spelling
Please note you are welcome to join in the discussion for the proposal about spelling to be ratified (about 8 years after it was thought about) - trust your festival season has been a good one - and hope to see your comments at the page - Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indonesia - thanks JarrahTree 00:43, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Any chance of the acronyms as in - van Ophijsen spelling, while Sitti Nurbaya (the novel) tends to be referred to using EYD (EBI  being identified on the policy page (FAQ/What does it mean?/Acronyms explained) sorta thing... cheers JarrahTree 08:34, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Vandal
Mas Chris,

Tolong blok untuk beberapa hari bagi pengguna ini dong vandal dan ngeyel terus. --Beeyan (talk) 20:03, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Sudah diblokir. Maaf, saya sedang kurang enak badan, jadi semalam saya tidur jam 8-an. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:51, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

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Slot AP
Ada permasalahan nih di slot AP di id:Halaman Utama. id:Siti Nurhaliza yang harusnya tampil pada tanggal 8 Januari malah udah nongol pada 4 Januari (hari ini), padahal jadwalnya kan pada hari ini yang tampil masih id:Alfred Russel Wallace. Dalam kata lain, slot AP yang seharusnya saya ubah dari 10 hari sekali menjadi 8 hari sekali malah berubah jadi 4 hari sekali. Ada yang bisa memperbaikinya ? --Erik Fastman (talk) 06:29, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Coba di grup FB. Saya bukan admin di WPID. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:50, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

C1cada and Coat of Many Colours sock
is at it again (see: Sockpuppet investigations/Coat of Many Colours/Archive). I know you're familiar with this disruptive sock ( as are you). What's the best way to go about handling this? Étienne Dolet (talk) 19:17, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

TFL notification
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Download request
Is there someone here who could kindly get this zoomable image onto Commons for me? Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:16, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
 * No luck, sorry. :( — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:36, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh, well—thanks for trying! Are you able to do it at this site? (different image, but there are a few there I'd like to get, too). Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 07:28, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Kedok Ketawa scheduled for TFA
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POTD
Hi Chris,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Sarah Goodridge Beauty Revealed The Metropolitan Museum of Art.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on February 5, 2017. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2017-02-05. — howcheng  {chat} 20:01, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
 * File:Winslow Homer - The Gulf Stream - Metropolitan Museum of Art.jpg is appearing on January 23. — howcheng  {chat} 20:04, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Can you help?
I was referred to you from someone else who looked at this image and thought you might be able to help. Julia Tevis. I want the image for my new article on Julia A. Tevis Bond disappeared in 1864 and was born circa 1826; Filson Historical Society has had the painting since 1974. ,. This claims the painting is in the public domain. It probably dates from 1860 because Bush made 2 trips to Louisville 1860 and 1864 and John Tevis died in 1861. BUT on top of that, an engraving of a "recent portrait" of Julia was published in a Nashville paper in 1861. But of course, all that is circumstantial. I did find one other image of her, but I cannot find a bigger copy, nor the original source to do any searching on the age, maker, etc. I am unsure if the painting could be used as fair use, if it cannot be uploaded to commons and totally unsure if the other image would even be viewable in such a small size. Thank you for any help you might be able to give. SusunW (talk) 22:58, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

She Shoulda Said No! images - tomorrow's TFA issue (for you or a stalker)
If you get a chance, can you look at She Shoulda Said No! and check the fair-use rationales? Two of the images were wrongly transferred to Commons as public domain, so I've undeleted and reverted to the early 2008 versions of our local images, but the rationales ought to be looked at, and that's not my field. If anyone reading this can get to this before Crisco, that would be great too. Thanks. BencherliteTalk 12:53, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Bencherlite OK-I checked the copyright books at UPenn in both film and artwork for the years 1976 & 1977 (would be renewal time). I found nothing for either She Said No or Hygenic Productions, the film maker.  They would be PD as copyright not renewed.  I can take care of this at Commons, where the files are up for deletion, if this would be better.  The problem here is that someone tagged them as PD but didn't do the necessary work to change furs, etc.  I can't see a full copy of either to prove "no copyright marks", but I can prove non-renewal. We hope (talk) 14:24, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Excellent. I don't mind where you take care of it, but it doesn't help that the commons and WP images have different names!  Thank you very much for your help, . BencherliteTalk 14:32, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Let me do the Commons images because they're larger-will post here after I have that done. Then you can withdraw your DRs for them and use the larger images in the article. We hope (talk) 14:34, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Not my deletion nominations, actually... But once you're happy that the Commons images are up to scratch, we can relink to them in the article and I can delete the local smaller versions (and I can then oppose deletion at Commons for the two images). BencherliteTalk 14:50, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Bencherlite-done with the files at Commons & went to both DRs with the information. ;) We hope (talk) 14:55, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Upcoming POTD
Hi Chris,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File: is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on January 30, 2017. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2017-01-30. — howcheng  {chat} 08:22, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

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Guideline and policy news
 * A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Wikipedia talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
 * Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016 closed with no consensus for implementing Pending changes level 2 with new criteria for use.
 * Following an RfC, an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators.

Technical news
 * When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
 * Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an RfC closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. (T156448)
 * The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.

Obituaries
 * JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.

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13:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Upcoming POTD
Hi Chris,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File: is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on February 4, 2017. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2017-02-04. — howcheng  {chat} 09:37, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for Beauty Revealed, revealed today! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Susan B. Anthony dollar
If I remember right, Today's featured article/requests/Susan B. Anthony dollar looks like the article was shown in 2015 but wasn't. I think the lady's day of death in March (women's month), 13 March, might be a good day. What should I do? Request 2? Modify this one? What else? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:04, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Good to see Het Lachende Masker as TFA today, thank you for the article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Rossa Matilda Richter
Chris, this nomination seems to be stalled over questions about its image. Can you please take a look and see whether you can help get it moving again? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:36, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
 * BlueMoonset, looks like We hope got it. Sorry for the late response. I was in Bukittinggi for most of last week and spent most of my time out and about. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:04, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

nah
made it too complicated - dont even bother to look - cheers JarrahTree 06:43, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Precious five years!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Uploads
I used to upload both front & back of photos and after that, the cropped, etc. image. Using Wayback Machine for archiving made things a bit easier and let me work a bit faster. Would you think I need to go back to that plus the archived links? Thanks! :-D We hope (talk) 03:53, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd say yes, just in case Wayback Machine ends up going wonky on us. I know they are finalists in a competition for a 100 million dollar grant, but still... nobody knows what the future may bring. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:03, 19 February 2017 (UTC)


 * As of now, I'll go back to the old way. Know Wayback intends on creating a copy of everything on Canadian servers due to their concern over the current US administration.  I have literally hundreds of PD images archived that need to be uploaded here-photos. posters & lobby cards. Thanks! :-D We hope (talk) 04:13, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * It is quite a bit of uploading. Daunting, really. I've been too busy with my PhD thesis recently to even consider that much editing. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:21, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear that it's just being busy that's kept you away. ;) There's a question about this painting re: PD:
 * File:Julia A. Tevis.jpg
 * I'm on the fence about it because it's hard to pin down when the painting really was available to the public. Would you take a look when you can? (I can always take the easy way and do lots of posters & lobby cards for a long time.)  Thanks again! We hope (talk) 04:31, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I say lean on the opinion of the Aetheneum. Bond was apparently born circa 1825, so it is certainly most likely that his works are PD. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:29, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks much! will be taking a look at what else is here re: uploads and trying to get those backs & fronts uploaded. We hope (talk) 14:06, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

==favour required== I am in process of doing a page move - due to a spelling issue - and because the correct spelling had been a redirect - the move disallowed my move - if you get my drift - my recents - If you dont want anything to do with it - just ping me and i'll find someone else - np either way JarrahTree 06:33, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Move
Can you help me move Mekia Kealaka`i to Mekia Kealakaʻi? Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:33, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:17, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Can you help me move Kekuiapoiwa I to Kekuʻiapoiwa I and Kekuiapoiwa II to Kekuʻiapoiwa II?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:43, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, done. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:47, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

mail
HaEr48 (talk) 03:04, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Maaf, HaEr48. Email belum masuk. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:09, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Oh ya? Padahal sudah saya kirim dari tadi. Saya juga dapat copynya. Apa masuk spam? judulnya "Salam kenal Mas Crisco". HaEr48 (talk) 06:37, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Tidak juga. Sepertinya ada error dengan server-nya Wikimedia. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:43, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmm.. barusan saya kirim lagi. HaEr48 (talk) 23:24, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay, sudah diterima. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:39, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

FPC
Crisco, mau nanya, itu proyek Featured portal candidates (FPC) dah dari Maret 2016 juga kagak ada yang kepilih jadi FP tapi kok proyeknya tetep jalan terus ya ? --Erik Fastman (talk) 02:51, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Saya sudah tidak terlibat di sana. Maaf. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:41, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

March Madness 2017
G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:


 * tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
 * updating the project's currently listed A-class articles to ensure their ongoing compliance with the listed criteria
 * creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various task force pages or other lists of missing articles.

As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.

The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the military history scope will be considered eligible. More information can be found here for those that are interested, and members can sign up as participants at that page also.

The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 March and runs until 23:59 UTC on 31 March 2017, so please sign up now.

For the Milhist co-ordinators. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

File:Sogijapranata Nasional 24 July 1963.jpg listed for discussion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Sogijapranata Nasional 24 July 1963.jpg, has been listed at Files for discussion. Please see the to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:30, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
 * ✅ — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:08, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Rossa Matilda Richter redux
Chris, I pinged you about this a while ago, and the immediate issue, about the photo's provenance and copyright status, seemed to have been addressed as you noted then. However, Harrias, who had originally approved the nomination only without the photo due to said status (but later changed the tick to a question mark to prevent the nomination's premature promotion while the image issue was being discussed), has not returned to the review, even after being pinged. I was wondering whether you could officially rule there on the photo and, if appropriate, issue a tick so this can finally be settled. Thanks for anything you can do. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:52, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks like Harrias got it. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:58, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

What kind of image?
Hello, Chris - I am in the middle of copy-editing Dire wolf, and in the article is this image:



I'd like to add a word or two to the current caption that indicates what kind of work this is. Can you tell me what it is? A drawing? An etching? A lithograph? – Corinne (talk) 15:21, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Adam Cuerden is more familiar with this stuff. Maybe "A smilodon and a dire wolf fighting over a kill, illustrated by Robert Bruce Horsfall" — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:00, 3 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Sounds good. – Corinne (talk) 16:25, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Question on a link
User:Brandmeister reverted an edit of mine at TFA and has made the same edit in the article you nominated, here. His edit summary says: "ethnic Chinese commonly refers to Han Chinese and per wp:egg it's unclear why an ethnic Chinese would write in Indonesian". Thoughts? - Dank (push to talk) 16:00, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * "Ethnic Chinese" is a correct redirect to Han Chinese and from what I see Chinese Indonesians are not the same due to mixed ancestry. Just call a cat a cat, methinks. Brandmeistertalk  16:21, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Dank and Brandmeister: Calling Kwee a Chinese Indonesian would imply that there was an Indonesia. In the compound Chinese Indonesian, Chinese refers to an ethnicity or heritage while Indonesian refers to a nation; one of these elements did not exist in 1917.
 * I also point out that both the Chinese Indonesian and Overseas Chinese articles are careful to note that the terms can refer to Hans and non-Hans, linking to Zhonghua minzu and List of ethnic groups in China respectively. There is no distinct term for non-Han Chinese in Indonesia, at least in English.
 * Also, a somewhat pedantic note: Kwee wasn't writing in Indonesian. This is not just a matter of naming; the Malay used by Kwee and other ethnic Chinese writers was vernacular Malay, whereas standard Indonesian is based on high or court Malay. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:50, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * As to whether or not Kwee would be considered Chinese, there's historical basis for saying "it depends on who's doing the judging". The ethnic Chinese in what is now Indonesia have frequently not been considered Indonesian by Indonesians (see "Loyalty in Question" for some background reading), nor have they been considered Chinese by the mainland Chinese (our article, sadly, only mentions that "an estimated 60,000 ethnic Chinese students left for the People's Republic of China in the 1950s and early 1960s", without noting that many of these people were not considered Chinese). The identity issue was and remains a hot button topic.
 * If push comes to shove, we can try using something like "of Chinese descent". However, working that into the first sentence would be a doozy. It's not really something we can drop from the lead, either, as Kwee's Chineseness informs both the plot and the reception. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:59, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Your revert works for me. - Dank (push to talk) 17:18, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thoughts about changing "1919 stage drama" to "1919 Javanese stage drama"? - Dank (push to talk) 17:24, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Dank: Javan refers to the island. Javanese would refer to the Javanese people or the Javanese language, neither of which is applicable. It doesn't even work for the setting; Kwee's play was set in a majority Sundanese area. I'll try and add "Dutch East Indies" to the blurb. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:09, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks great, thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 02:22, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Okay. A bit clunky, but it does help clarify why Malay was the language used. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Block this user
Hello Crisco 1492, can you blocked this user, 113.210.108.178 (talk)? Because he vandalized biographies in Wikipedia. Fandi89 (talk) 10:05, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
 * A single act of quickly reverted vandalism does not a block make. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:20, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

TFA wish
How do you feel about Today's featured article/requests/The Heart of a Woman for one of the few days left in March? - Or should it go back to the requests first? - Thank you for scheduling Mozart's Piano Concerto! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd say go through requests first. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:28, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Done, seen that we have already a drama and an author, but both male, - let's see what others think. There's always next year, as we thought last year ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:50, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Or April 4th. I'd mention that as a possibility. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:13, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Oʻahu tree snail
Would you mind moving O'ahu tree snail to Oʻahu tree snail? Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 08:50, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure. Done. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:58, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

POTD
Hi - you explained Chris how you have this huge backlog for POTD. But I see that some people are jumping the queue with nominations - some pretty dull!. Is it OK to do our own nominations and, if so, would you say that two nominations a month is reasonable? Thanks. Charlesjsharp (talk) 13:02, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Go ahead. I'll handle the blurbs. If there are any issues I'll let you know, but unless you're bumping something with date relevance I don't think there'll be any problems. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:35, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Charlesjsharp (talk) 15:42, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Mohon bantuan
Hallo, Mas Crisco. Jika berkenan saya mohon bantuan memeriksa foto-foto yang saya unggah di commons. Sebab kalau tak salah ada dua foto yang bersumber dari luar saya. Yang satunya dari Perpustakaan Nasional Republik Indonesia untuk foto artikel Aloysius Slamet Widodo (file:Aloysius Slamet Widodo.jpg). Yang satunya lagi adalah dokumentasi keluarga sastrawan Piek Ardijanto Soeprijadi (file:Piek Ardijanto Soeprijadi.jpg). Apabila unggahan saya itu tidak sesuai dengan aturan commons, bagaimana seharusnya yang saya lakukan. Untuk foto yang berasal dari dokumentasi keluarga itu saya harus menerima surat izin dari keluarga mereka atau bagaimana. Terima kasih atas bantuan Anda. Salam. Igho (talk) 13:00, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Salam, Igho. Untuk foto Aloysius Slamet Widodo, itu merupakan pelanggaran UU HC karena situs Perpusnas ada tanda "Berhak cipta", sehingga isinya dianggap berhak cipta pula. (Pasal 43 UU HC 2014 menyatakan bahwa terbitan pemerintah yang bertanda hak cipta tetap dilindungi hak ciptanya).
 * Untuk foto Piek Ardijanto Soeprijadi, saudara harus mendapatkan pernyataan dari pemegang hak cipta (fotografer/keluarga) yang menyatakan bahwa mereka mau melepaskan foto tersebut dengan lisensi bebas. Pernyataan tersebut harus menyatakan lisensi yang hendak digunakan oleh pemegang hak cipta. Ada contoh di Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:39, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Jika berkenan, mohon beritahu, setelah saya menerima izin dari keluarga mereka, apa yang harus saya lakukan? Sebab kemungkinan besar keluarga itu mungkin sudah lupa siapa fotografernya, masih hidup atau sudah meninggal. Ke manakah atau di bagian manakah e-mail itu saya sematkan. Terima kasih atas bantuan Mas Crisco. Salam. Igho (talk) 14:06, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Prosesnya ada di Donating copyrighted materials bagian Donating your photographs dan Granting us permission to copy material already online — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:45, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Music
Hi Crisco 1492, thank you very much for helping to put the Flugelhorn image into the right format. Is this something we should also consider with the rest of the Yamaha image donation? Thanks, --Gnom (talk) 11:14, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Gnom, it would be best to upload both formats. TIFF serves as a lossless archive format and thus allows lossless editing, while JPG is more widely reusable (including on Wikipedia). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:26, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Jokowi FB pics
You sent me a message about Jokowi FB pics, what was the conclusion? HaEr48 (talk) 03:55, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
 * HaEr48, check your email. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:59, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

TFA
Thank you for the "morality play written to be performed at charity operas ("opera derma") and inspired by the style of Ibsen"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:45, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

YaY!!!!
another main page item to vandalise... :) JarrahTree 00:56, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * On your birthday, no less! Drmies (talk) 14:48, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Aye, the big 28. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:46, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Files for discussion/2017 March 21
FYI. Armbrust The Homunculus 19:14, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Commented there with some policy/guideline links. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:17, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

This conversation is making less and less sense to me
your thoughts. Thanks, We hope (talk) 23:12, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Think this is now resolved, but am hoping history isn't repeated-for me or anyone else. ;) We hope (talk) 00:53, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I suspect the user in question was misunderstanding "Free in the US and the source country" to mean "Free all over the world". — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:23, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Am guessing "free all over the world" would mean that Commons would be quite bare of anything but own work and Flickr photos with approved CC licenses. ;) We hope (talk) 03:27, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Even less. Not all countries recognize CC as valid. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:30, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow-there goes an awful lot when these licenses are taken out of the mix! :-) We hope (talk) 03:32, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

POTD
Hi - I've done my best in following the guidelines, but I cannot get it to show on the archive page. Template:POTD/2017-04-06 Have I done it vaguely right? Charlesjsharp (talk) 21:18, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It shows up for me. Because the template is transcluded, I think you may need to purge your cache. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:51, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Template:POTD protected/2012-10-31 and Template:POTD protected/2013-10-14
Greetings, do Template:POTD protected/2012-10-31 and Template:POTD protected/2013-10-14 still need protection? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 15:40, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Jo-Jo Eumerus. No, they don't. I've unprotected the pages — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:12, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Sculpture
sent me your way and I am hoping you can help. I want to load this photograph of this ostrich sculpture created by Ivan Efimov. Not sure how to do it. If it was a painting, I could do it as fair use to depict his unique use of materials and techniques (most Russian sculptors at the time created static marble statuary and he used other materials and tried to capture movement). As it is a sculpture, if I choose 3-D art, it wants me to say either he took the photograph or the person who did take it has released the image, neither of which I think is true. I have no idea who took the photograph. Efimov has not been dead for 70 years, so I don't think the artwork can be used freely either. Is there a way to use the image as fair use? SusunW (talk) 19:06, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd be cautious if it's just a matter of showing the materials. The statues publically displayed before 1923 would be free in the US, and thus would be free enough to photograph for Wikipedia (but not Commons). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:14, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

If you have time
Hi Crisco. If you have a few minutes, I was hoping you might be willing to take a look at a few places where I have made COI requests/questions:
 * Broken links question
 * BLP issuesdiscussion (I've done some digging on this since. These edits are likely motivated by a political thing with him and Hillary a while back.
 * A second draft after incorporating some feedbackdraft A couple editors have commented previously and may or may not also jump in.

Of course, you may be pre-occupied on Wikipedia elsewhere, but thanks in advance if you do spend the time to review. Best regards. CorporateM (Talk) 19:24, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Rendra Karno
Mifter (talk) 00:01, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

FLC review request
Hey Crisco. It's been a long time – hope you're doing well! Could I trouble you to have a look at my FLC nom? It's had only three reviews after more than two months, so I'd much appreciate it if you could put in your 2¢. Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 15:29, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Template:POTD texttitle
Greetings, POTD texttitle is currently full protected. Is it safe to have template protection there instead? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:33, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Same question for Template:Pic of the day as well. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 21:23, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Personally, I'd rather have anything related to the main page under full protection. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:02, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

A favor, please
Could you retouch File:HarryLewis_Harvard_InMeeting_2002.jpg a bit (creating a new file File:HarryLewis_Harvard_InMeeting_2002 retouched.jpg)? What I'm hoping is you can soften the lamp in the back and maybe the tablet in the foreground, plus any other adjustment you think appropriate. Nothing fancy, just whatever you can bang out. I'd really like this in the next few days, if you're willing to do it. Thanks!  E Eng  23:17, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
 * By soften, do you mean to blur the edges? I could do that, but it wouldn't look natural. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:44, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry, missed your reply earlier. No, I mean just tone down the lamp so it's not this huge white thing behind him, and (as I said) also maybe do something similar to the tablet held by the disembodied hands in the foreground. Thanks!


 * Since I've got you, if it hasn't happened already could you take care of this ?  E Eng  08:42, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Jim Morrison
Hey, just wanted to let you know that image was used as an album cover for The Best of The Doors in 1985. Best, Seattle (talk) 02:45, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
 * That publication's a bit too late to try and bring back the image... (I'm still seething over the image, TBH). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:29, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

POTD Rotating Gold Certificates?
You're probably aware, but I wanted to make sure that someone knew that some of the May 7th images aren't correct. $10,000 and $5000 are showing the wrong image. ApLundell (talk) 14:52, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that. I'll fix it ASAP. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:11, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

File:Rhinotia hemistictus (Long Nosed Weevil).jpg
Shouldn't File:Rhinotia hemistictus (Long Nosed Weevil).jpg have been placed on Picture of the day/Unused? I mean the only article (Rhinotia hemistictus), where it's used is a stub. There are images on the list, which have better articles. Armbrust The Homunculus 01:09, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I decided to run it anyways, since the angle/approach is quite different than what we normally see. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:43, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

Move
Can you help move Rosalie Keliinoi to Rosalie Keliʻinoi? Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 15:26, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Page deletion
Hi, Chris. Our paths haven't crossed in a while. . . As an admin, can you delete a page I created, René Étiemble? I thought he didn't have a page, but discovered too late that he does: Étiemble. Thanks, Awien (talk) 17:46, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * No longer needed - PamD created a redirect. Thanks anyway, Awien (talk) 18:11, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
 * PamD did exactly what I'd do. Sorry for the late response... recently I've only been on Wikipedia in the morning (local time), since RL is keeping me quite busy. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:23, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * That RL thing really eats into one's WP time . . . Awien (talk) 01:55, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Aye. But I wouldn't trade my son or my PhD program for all the WP time in the world. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:20, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Double congratulations! (And I was really just teasing about WP time). Enjoy this special time to the max. Kid(s) get to be grown almost before you know it. All the best, Awien (talk) 11:13, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I know! I remember him as this little baby trying to roll over, and now he's got a vocabulary of more than 100 words — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:40, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I remember my daughter in her baby seat enthralled by her ability to move her fingers and my son's hilariously unique crawling style - and suddenly they're middle-ageing, greying, and offering their parents lifestyle advice. Awien (talk) 13:06, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Basuki Tjahaja Purnama
Hi Crisco,

Any interest is improving Basuki Tjahaja Purnama so that it might pass a WP:ITN/C (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Basuki_Tjahaja_Purnama)? I'm pinging you because of all your work on Indonesian topics on the EN wiki. --76.122.98.135 (talk) 21:29, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I haven't had much time to write recently, and the cluster**** that is the Ahok case is not something you can just explain in a couple paragraphs. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:10, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Indonesia-related articles
Hello Crisco 1492. I'm Fandi, I'm from Malaysia, one of the fellow Wikipedians. I personally interested with your works on articles related to Indonesia in Wikipedia, especially articles about films of the Dutch East Indies and past Indonesian actors and actresses. Your works are really interesting and capture my attention, thus I translated some of your works into Malay at the Malay Wikipedia because it really amazing and impressive. Have a good job and all the best to you. &mdash; Fandi89 (talk) 12:25, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:15, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Panggilan Darah scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Panggilan Darah article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 30 June 2017. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/June 30, 2017. Thanks! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:37, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

File:Sierk Coolsma.jpg listed for discussion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Sierk Coolsma.jpg, has been listed at Files for discussion. Please see the to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:54, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Your assistance please...
You closed Articles for deletion/Ronald A. Gregory. I request userification. Geo Swan (talk) 18:43, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

TFA
Thank you for Panggilan Darah! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Today's picture
In the absence of today's picture, and with a multi-image whose code I can't begin to understand, I've moved tomorrow's picture to today as a quick fix. Hope this was not an entirely stupid solution... Apologies for the mess I've made. Espresso Addict (talk) 00:43, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, today's POTD was for Canada Day, so... — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:55, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Ah, you're online! Feel free to revert/fix. I thought any picture was better than yesterday's Leica. Espresso Addict (talk) 00:59, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Aye, true. Sorry. I slept in and just ordered breakfast. POTD is fixed.
 * For next time... The code for these multis is a bit of a pain, but it's mostly copying and pasting once you reach this point:
 * Create POTD protected subpage (POTD protected/1 etc.)
 * Copy template from POTD subpage (POTD/1 etc.) and subst like normal using POTD row. Save
 * Manually insert links to previous POTDs and remove everything after the noinclude tag.
 * Repeat for however many supages there are
 * Create the randomizer page at POTD protected, changing "POTD" to "POTD protected". — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:04, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll note the instructions for future reference; for some reason I'm often the only main-page-patrolling admin at odd hours of the UK night (it's 2am here...). Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 01:25, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I'll try and prep the next multi a few days ahead of schedule. One's scheduled for a week or two from now... two views of an Oxford chapel. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:56, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Also today's picture
On June 16 I intended to make an edit to all 5 texts for today's alternative pictures, but apparently I missed number 4 (the $10), and didn't find this out until it actually showed up on the home page. Since Template:POTD/2017-07-01/4 is now cascade-protected, would you mind replicating the edit on that one by copying the text from one of the other alternatives and substituting the correct denomination? Thanks.

(I've noted before, probably from a different IP address, that I thing there ought to be a better way to do this type of POTD so that the repetitive text would only have to be edited once. Here's a good example of why!) --76.71.5.114 (talk) 08:37, 1 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Too late now. But please do think about the issue. --76.71.5.114 (talk) 07:54, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I did do it on the protected page, AFAIR. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 08:08, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Museum UGM
Crisco, bisa nggak Anda potretin Museum UGM/Rumah Jogja Obama di Bulaksumur. Kalo bisa sih bagian dalamnya juga. --Erik Fastman (talk) 13:19, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Jadwal saya cukup padat minggu ini. Akan diusahakan. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:54, 18 July 2017 (UTC)