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Sankebetsu brown bear incident
Please, can you help me with these Japanese translations? Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.251.38.168 (talk) 07:08, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Change in protection
I shouldn't have semi-indeffed Two-spirit, even though it needs the protection, as I edit the page. Could you please redo the protection so it's clean? I'd appreciate it. Thanks. - CorbieVreccan  ☊ ☼ 20:36, 13 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @CorbieVreccan Just to make sure I understand correctly, you'd like me to remove and then reinstate the indef semi protection. Alternatively, I think I could just "endorse" the protection by protecting the already-protected page and it would appear in the log (if that makes any sense).  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 22:11, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I have no opinion on the best way to do the tech. Whichever you think is best. I also forgot to log it as a gensex protection. - CorbieVreccan  ☊ ☼ 22:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

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Page Protection Request
May I ask if you could semi-protect Pachycephalosaurus and Triceratops for a while? They're being targeted by an anonymous editor using different IPs to rewrite the type species in order to introduce erroneous info while ignoring and deliberately changing the invisible comments explaining why the type species are not be changed. Mr Fink (talk) 14:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Apokryltaros - Done!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 15:06, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Assistance required regarding a user you've warned before
อย่ามาตบะ is the user in question. I've been trying to resolve a dispute about how to go about dealing with the infobox for House of Representatives (Thailand) and his responses in my talk page have been extremely unhelpful. It has come to a point where I do not think WP:3O will be of any use. He has also persistently reverted what I've edited despite insisting that the article must stay frozen until we've come to a conclusion. I've been forced to undo his reversions because if I don't do so he would simply ignore my side of the discussion (I've waited in good faith and determined that he's actually not willing to talk without his version being struck down). I would like to ask for your adjudication on this matter and how to move forward with these kinds of incidents in the future since I've never participated in the conflict resolution process before. If my conduct in this matter has been sub-par I most certainly will welcome feedback and advice. KrebsLovesFiesh (talk) 07:14, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

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Block evasion?
Hi, back in July you blocked Special:contributions/2601:152:5080:9D30:0:0:0:0/64 for 3 days for disruption and "likely block evasion/socking". I know it's been a while, but I don't suppose you remember, or can easily figure out now, whose block the IP was evading? I tried to figure it out myself but failed. I was thinking maybe, but my knowlege of the subject matter is nil, so I didn't want to reblock the range (for a lot longer, they are prolific) without more. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:24, 22 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Bbb23 I think Special:Contributions/2601:152:4400:7B60:0:0:0:0/64 was part of it too based on the /32 range overlap and mention of evasion in the block reason. I'm guessing MegaSmike46 was on my mind, but I can't recall specifically.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 04:56, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * There are so many socks in the TV area I can't keep them straight.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 04:57, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ain't that the truth? Usually, I don't try. So, we have "my" range (Rockville, Maryland), "your" (blocked) range (Rockville), and Special:contributions/24.126.30.250 (Rockville) referred to in your blocked range...+ the block log of the 24. IP, which indicates it was CU-blocked for 6 months back in January 2023 by . That's enough for me to block my range for 6 months, which I just did.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:02, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I converted Special:Contributions/2601:152:5080:9d30::/64 to a hard block. For what it's worth, these IP editors are probably all the same person. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:40, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Goof Troop
Why did you undo my edits for the character cast? Christianfollower (talk) 20:32, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Animation Services Infobox
Is it OK to put animation studios on the infobox? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wow!_Wow!_Wubbzy!&diff=prev&oldid=1177874406 VGPCVGCP (talk) 04:43, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

I just edited it to be part of the production companies but I wanna make sure it's OK. VGPCVGCP (talk) 04:50, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Or rather as the animator field on the infobox. VGPCVGCP (talk) 04:53, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

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(This is not a spam attempt I am making sure the word gets out regarding sources I've found for the film.)
Hey alright so this is probably going to be the last attempt to get this mentioned on the page (Unless for example a article gets published on AV club or something.) There is a 2 articles that mentions the video I'm trying to put in (If it appears black you have to scroll down.) https://chattymatters.com/9761/previous-articles-videos/the-rise-of-the-video-essay/ and another one https://thesciencesurvey.com/arts-entertainment/2020/06/19/bored-try-watching-some-youtube-video-essays/ Both mention the creator of the video. Now I understand TV tropes is user generated however I have found examples of it being used on other pages (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_and_TV_programs_containing_corporal_punishment_scenes The TV tropes source is on the third reference link.) And the cult following it has received is also mentioned here (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VindicatedByHistory/AnimatedFilms Click on "dreamworks animation." And it will show you it.) (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/SchaffrillasProductions When you find the words "Sleeper hit." It will mention the video.) The creator is mentioned on both IMDB and ironically av club (https://www.avclub.com/tv/reviews/schaffrillas-productions-2015) (https://m.imdb.com/title/tt15028658/) here is the memes it has received aswell. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Memes/Megamind 2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534 (talk) 16:03, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

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Why was my edit for the film removed?
he's claiming youtube can't be used as sources despite the fact on several other pages there are videos and no one has did anything about it. 2603:6000:B800:EB4:5D85:A65F:224D:E373 (talk) 05:33, 15 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Also why is the context of the "cult following" written yet the actual sources not there? People are going to get confused when they read it and try to get to the sources from here. 2603:6000:B800:EB4:5D85:A65F:224D:E373 (talk) 05:38, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello! Youtube videos are usually not considered reliable sources unless they are about the person in the video or from a major news organization. If you can find a source like AV Club that says there's a cult following, that would help support your edit. As for other articles, unfortunately we cannot catch every instance of poor sourcing. If you know of them, I suggest either making an edit request or removing them yourself.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 20:51, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * EvergreenFir, please unprotect the Om Nom Stories page! 1.40.30.117 (talk) 05:44, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * No  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 16:41, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. 1.40.30.117 (talk) 04:52, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I said, EvergreenFir, please unprotect the Om Nom Stories page! 1.40.30.117 (talk) 04:29, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey alright so this is probably going to be the last attempt to get this mentioned on the page (Unless for example a article gets published on AV club or something.) There is a 2 articles that mentions the video I'm trying to put in (If it appears black you have to scroll down.) https://chattymatters.com/9761/previous-articles-videos/the-rise-of-the-video-essay/ and another one https://thesciencesurvey.com/arts-entertainment/2020/06/19/bored-try-watching-some-youtube-video-essays/ Both mention the creator of the video. Now I understand TV tropes is user generated however I have found examples of it being used on other pages (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_and_TV_programs_containing_corporal_punishment_scenes The TV tropes source is on the third reference link.) And the cult following it has received is also mentioned here (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VindicatedByHistory/AnimatedFilms Click on "dreamworks animation." And it will show you it.) (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Trivia/SchaffrillasProductions When you find the words "Sleeper hit." It will mention the video.) The creator is mentioned on both IMDB and ironically av club (https://www.avclub.com/tv/reviews/schaffrillas-productions-2015) (https://m.imdb.com/title/tt15028658/) 2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534 (talk) 22:19, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * my bad forgot to mention the memes it has received aswell https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Memes/Megamind 2603:6000:B800:EB4:7DEA:F575:1ACB:A534 (talk) 22:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

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Block conflict
I was in the middle or partial blocking User:50.209.237.169 from Donkey Kong (character) for 1 year, which is about how long they've been making this same edit at this same article. Are you ok if amend your block? Or would you prefer to stick with the 31 hours?-- Ponyo bons mots 18:28, 8 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ponyo - I am 100% okay with you changing it. Thank you for checking and sorry for the conflict  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 18:29, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, done. Maybe they'll move on to another school or an elevated level of maturity by the time the block expires (she thought, simultaneously hopeful and doubtful).-- Ponyo bons mots 18:34, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

List of presidents and vice presidents of the United States
Concerning the List of presidents of the United States & List of vice presidents of the United States pages, I'm beginning to suspect that editors Batong 1930 & Tinpo 162 (name/number style) are the same individual. GoodDay (talk) 00:14, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

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Takao Yaguchi
Many of his manga series are only in Japanese Wikipedia: ja:おらが村, ja:新・おらが村, ja:マタギ (漫画), ja:かつみ, ja:ニッポン博物誌, ja:ふるさと (漫画), ja:激濤 Magnitude 7.7. Can you translate them in English, and maybe also expand his own page and Fisherman Sanpei? Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.2.62.220 (talk) 09:58, 25 November 2023 (UTC)


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Translations
Please, can you help me with these translations from Japanese to English: Kotanbetsu (ja:古丹別駅), Onishika (ja:鬼鹿村), Brown Bear Storm (ja:羆嵐), Japan Hunting Friends Association (ja:大日本猟友会), Hokkaido Government Police Department (ja:北海道庁警察部), Haboro Police Station (ja:羽幌警察署), 28th Infantry Regiment (Japan) (ja:歩兵第28連隊), Japan Action Enterprise (ja:ジャパンアクションエンタープライズ), Kaoru Takagi (ja:高木薫), Hokkaido Wine (ja:北海道ワイン), Karasumaru family (ja:烏丸家), Taisha Station (ja:大社駅), Motoko Baba (ja:馬場元子), Maiasa Shinbun (毎朝新聞), Champion Futoshi (ja:チャンピオン太)? Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.207.113.11 (talk) 22:32, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Can you do it? 79.16.244.59 (talk) 10:56, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty busy at work right now, but I will try to do a couple  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 16:41, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

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Can I ask you something?
Can I change the 2000s series of strawberry shortcake by saying that it came out in 2002 please. MickyGirl1234 (talk) 22:46, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @MickyGirl1234 why? This source clearly said it was launched in 2003  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 23:11, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Sometimes certain things aren’t always right
The 2000s version of Strawberry Shortcake came on dvd in 2003 and I think the Tv version came out 3, 2, or a year before. MickyGirl1234 (talk) 12:54, 26 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @MickyGirl1234 we use reliable sources, not what we individually remember or think  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 18:08, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

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Tree Fu Tom Edit
Good evening,

Respond to this at your leisure, but I saw that you removed the Universal Kids tag from the Tree Fu Tom article, when it lists the networks it was on. Why, if I may ask? I know it hasn't aired on it for a while, and it was before it even rebranded, but I think it's still somewhat accurate. I'll eat my words if I'm wrong, but why not put it back, with perhaps more accuracy? Triviatronic9000 (talk) 03:01, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Partial block of 71.17.144.182
Hi; thanks for the block. You may want to take further action, as this user has accused myself and other editors of being "Nazi thugs" (diff) and is making threats to evade blocks (1, 2). Tol (talk &#124; contribs) @ 05:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Upon further checking, the user is using another IP (2605:8D80:421:401A:A841:8703:8C1F:645F) to evade your block. Tol  (talk &#124; contribs) @ 05:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Tol because the user hops IPs so much, I just semi-protected the article. No point in playing wack-a-mole.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:49, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Disruption is now continuing on The Liberator (newspaper). Tol  (talk &#124; contribs) @ 05:56, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oi vey  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:58, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * And now continuing on 2605:8D80:423:685E:D80:F0DB:E8F3:A190. Oy vey indeed. Tol  (talk &#124; contribs) @ 06:03, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. Tol  (talk &#124; contribs) @ 06:07, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Anytime!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 06:09, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Irrelevant to the subject of the article.
making him the only U.S. president to have been impeached twice. Gathol (talk) 23:57, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Gathol Please bring this up on Talk:January 6 United States Capitol attack. In my opinion, the second impeachment is directly related to the January 6 insurrection. Regardless, please stop adding "alleged" or other things that align with the various conspiracy theories around the 2020 election.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 00:06, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for blocking Peelover93, just wondering whether my report to AIV was the reason, or if you just found their edits through recent changes? -REDACTED403 (talk)  06:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

An Apology
Hello again. Sorry if what I said on the last topic of conversation was bad in some way. I don't know what I said, but I'll try and do better, if I know what I said. Triviatronic9000 (talk) 01:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Malaysian IP rangeblock
I have been contacted by a Malaysian user who says: "Hi @Binksternet. Sorry for my IP 183.171.123.118 has been blocked at English Wikipedia, because IP range en:Special:Contributions/183.171.0.0/16 may have been used by different person. Actual IP ranges en:Special:Contributions/183.171.68.0/22 and en:Special:Contributions/183.171.96.0/22 are vandals, while I (en:Special:Contributions/183.171.120.0/22) had nothing to do with them. so I can prove my innocence."

You made that rangeblock two weeks ago which is why I'm bringing the request here. FYI. Binksternet (talk) 17:01, 16 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Binksternet Thank you for relaying the message. I will update the blocks per the user's suggestions given they do seem to be correct.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 22:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @EvergreenFir, can you delete their edit summaries to avoid confusion, thank you. 113.210.105.22 (talk) 16:13, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I know you may busy sometime. Hope you follow the recent request. Regards. 2001:D08:2914:B2E8:17AC:4860:D317:EDA0 (talk) 06:26, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Any suggestions as to where to raise all this?
WP:BLPN (see OP's talk page} which is related to WP:FTN We are getting new editors on these topics more or less every day. And given the attempt to dox an editor, I'm taking this all very seriously and it's a time swamp. Read the Reddit thread if you have the stomach (and of course time and interest, don't if  you lack these). And this one. Thanks.  Doug Weller  talk 09:49, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

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Ben Shapiro
Hello! I have just requested for page protection and i see you have done it just before i put in the request. Thank you very much. I have reverted multiple of the same exact edits from different users. Elvisisalive95 (talk) 05:53, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Elvisisalive95 great minds think alike! I reverted an addition related to rapping earlier and saw in the history that it's continuing so I added the protection. Hopefully that will stop the disruption for now.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:55, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes they do! I appreciate it. I originally just added a short sentence about it under his personal life. Then it got turned into people adding an entire discography, including him in rapper categories, and most recently the changes to his occupation. Let’s hope this stops it! Thanks again & i’ll see you around. Elvisisalive95 (talk) 05:58, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
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Hey so this diff. I had warned for removing content without accurately explaining why. This came after this edit by the IP in which they were warned by another user. Not to mention a plethora of other unexplained removals. Looking again at their repeated deletion here, where they gave the explanation “fake news” I can see how i overlooked that. But to the eye of someone patrolling recent changes and their talk page it sure seemed like it was constituting vandalism at the time. Just wanted you to see where i was coming from. Elvisisalive95 (talk) 16:51, 26 February 2024 (UTC)


 * Moreover, they are continuing like behavior and removing sourced claims here & here Elvisisalive95 (talk) 17:03, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
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Deletion of the phones catergory in Google Pixel articile
I apologize for that mishap, I intended on adding a new topic, But I accidently deleted the phones category. Sorry for that! 172.103.193.23 (talk) 15:40, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

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TERF
Moving this here because NOTFORUM things. But radfem seems to be a self-created label. TERF seems to be a label from one group of radfems to distinguish themselves from TERFs. Comes off a bit like old school splits in the Internacional. Because of course radical socialist are the natural enemy of capitalists, monarchists, socialists, globalists, anarchists, socialists, that neighbor who let's their dog crap on your lawn, oligarchs, socialists, and above all other socialists. G M G talk  12:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024
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RevDel request
I don't know if it's legitimate information, but some recent content at Siliguri College of Commerce includes seemingly quite sensitive data. Appreciate if you could take a look.&#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 18:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Done. Emailed OS. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:11, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Firefangledfeathers, @Fyrael - Thank you both. Sorry I didn't see this sooner.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 19:52, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

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2601:983:4600:6832:0:0:0:95
Might want to revoke TPA from this address for the duration of their block, they're still slinging insults and claiming they're going to make a YouTube video targeting trans Wikipedians. —  The Hand That Feeds You :Bite 11:33, 12 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @HandThatFeeds - done. Thank you!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

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Reverts
Is there a reason why you seem to be going through my contribs and reverting them, giving justifications that are, on face, rather weak? This all seems vaguely antagonistic, though, of course I will assume good faith. Peter L Griffin (talk) 01:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

User talk:Flyer22 Frozen
Good call on the prot, but changed to semi based on the fact that all of the disruption is anons, new accounts, and is pretty sporadic - A l is o n  talk 19:11, 21 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @Alison Sounds good to me! Thank you!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 20:24, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

A tad pointless
Not sure you care for trouts, but why yes fixing the error is precisely what my edit did. – 2804:F1...BF:D56 (talk) 22:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Oh wow, you're 100% right. I'm not sure why but I had thought you reverted the edit including the comment's text for some reason. I definitely deserve a trout for that.
 *  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 22:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

A heads up and thank you
Just a heads up that guy you just edit blocked for us is just doing stuff on his talk page now. Id like to also take the time to thank you for doing that, definitely a interesting past 15-20 minutes for me. Good work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Your_username_is_public_and_cannot_be_made_private&diff=prev&oldid=1215114873. Toaster914 (talk) 05:22, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Update: they are still doing it. i recommend turning off their talk page perms. Toaster914 (talk) 05:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I just revoked their talk page access  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:29, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

No problem. Its past midnight for me now, so i'm going to go to bed. Thank you for the help! Toaster914 (talk) 05:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Move protection of Bad Girls Club (season 14)
In 2020, you had protected the page to permanently restrict edits to autoconfirmed editors and at the same time, indefinitely restrict moves to sysops only. Is it OK with you to have the move protection to be reduced to match the edit protection? – robertsky (talk) 03:56, 31 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @Robertsky I have no objections. I don't much care for the new naming convention though (not that it matters)  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 06:10, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

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New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024
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Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

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I do appreciate all that you do. :) - Bringingthewood (talk) 01:54, 4 April 2024 (UTC)


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My edit yesterday
Your response was "?" You know more about revision deletion than I do, but if "normal" editing is not subject to revision deletion then hiding the edit is misuse of the tool. Please read the comment and let me know whether a "normal" administrator (i.e. yourself) would consider it to be

"Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material...long-term abuse...personal attack...troll".

Something else I discovered this morning: at Wikipedia talk:Blocking policy/Archive 24 an IP asked that where IT departments have procedures in place to ensure editing is constructive pupils should not be blocked from editing. This was seconded by Doug Weller. Seven hours and two minutes later, without any notification to the participants, an administrator blocked the IP for five years, claiming "long-term abuse". Again, I can see no basis for the call whatsoever. Another example I spotted this morning: IP 80.5.88.70, which appeared to be making really constructive edits, was blocked for three years eight hours after editing without any kind of warning by the same administrator. The reason given in the block log was "long-term abuse from this IP". Couldn't the administrator have engaged with the editor first? Judging by the amount of RD2 deletions on this page over the past decade there may be a lot of people watching who have an opinion on the matter. 92.25.133.126 (talk) 12:59, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

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If you feel like taking a look at the current editing/discussions at Simon Ekpa, please do. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

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Updated White Mexicans Metrics
I see you went ahead and combed through the recent publications we have on the data which is appreciative and great! However, why is the info box still displaying numbers that were completely made up and not backed by a single source? Analyticalreview (talk) 00:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Analyticalreview you complain about "completely made up numbers" yet after writing this you went to the article and did this, isn't that contradictory?. Pob3qu3 (talk) 22:26, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but are you able to even see the pie chart provided? They clearly state by their calculations (which are not official by any means), the Mestizo population is 62%, Amerindian 7%, and "Other" is 31%. If we are assuming everyone in the other category is "White" (which the article itself states not everyone in the "Other" category is in the White category)
 * Here is the quote:
 * Generally speaking, the mixture of indigenous and European peoples has produced the largest segment of the population today—mestizos, who account for about three-fifths of the total—via a complex blending of ethnic traditions and perceived ancestry. Mexicans of European heritage (“whites”) are a significant component of the other ethnic groups who constitute the remainder of the population
 * So if I was being extremely strict to what the source is explicitly stating we actually would not be able to even say it is 30% (it is in fact probably lower due to what all other sources state). Analyticalreview (talk) 23:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * My mistake here is the full quote:
 * Mexico’s population is composed of many ethnic groups, including indigenous American Indians (Amerindians), who account for less than one-tenth of the total. Generally speaking, the mixture of indigenous and European peoples has produced the largest segment of the population today—mestizos, who account for about three-fifths of the total—via a complex blending of ethnic traditions and perceived ancestry. Mexicans of European heritage (“whites”) are a significant component of the other ethnic groups who constitute the remainder of the population.
 * Here are the numbers the pie chart provides:
 * 62% Mestizo
 * 31% Other
 * 7% Amerindian
 * It is stated a "significant amount" of the Other percentage is indeed Mexicans of predominate European ancestry but it's definitely not all of them which they make clear. We also have Afro-Mexicans (which according to official government publications make up around 2% of the population), Asian-Mexicans, etc. Analyticalreview (talk) 23:14, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't see such chart on the ref used in the article, I see a picture of a church though. There may be a misunderstanding here, as the chart you mention does appear in the "Kids Brittanica" site and is dated as being from 2012, but rather than argue wheter this has to be threated as a different source or wheter it is outdated now or not I want to use your sudden openess to accept much higher percentages of White Mexicans as an oportunity to ask you: do you agree now that sources such as the World Factbook who report percentages as low as 9% (or your edits from last month to the article ) are completely disconnected of reality?. Pob3qu3 (talk) 00:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Nope, the 10% figure is the most accurate one. Mexico never had anywhere near the post independence European migration that the USA or South America had. The 40% figure is the one completely disconnected from reality. Also, here is the most recent Britannica article on Mexico which states:
 * "More than three-fifths of Mexico’s people are mestizos, about one-fifth are American Indians, and the bulk of the rest are of European ancestry."
 * This would have the figure much closer to 20%, not 40% like you pulled out of thin air.
 * The final compromise I am willing to make is a range from 10%-30% which is being more than generous enough. Analyticalreview (talk) 01:06, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * What your last reply proves is that Brittanica does not update uniformly, with no mention that their entry focused ethnic groups alone should take precedence over other entries for the country (that one is also the most recently updated), I don't get why you say that the 40% figure was materialized of thin air when you cited that Brittanica entry yourself, you shouldn't ignore Mexico's government surveys whose results range from 29% (similar to Kids Brittanica) to 49% either. Pob3qu3 (talk) 01:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Read the updated intro done by @EvergreenFir themselves. Let me clarify, they wrote this, not me.
 * "The government releases data on the percentage of "light-skinned Mexicans" in the country, with 12.5% of Mexican people surveyed choosing the three lightest shades in 2017. Using the same skin tone categories, a 2022 survey found that 10.2% chose the three lightest shades."
 * So no, the lower end of the range by Mexican government surveys is actually 10.2%, not 29%. Analyticalreview (talk) 01:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Evergreenfir acknowledges on her diff that the standard of the government is H-K and that wrote it that way for comparative purposes, she also restored the 40% figure recently. Furthermore the talk page of another editor is not the proper place to discuss on this kind of manner, even if that editor is an administrator, I'll see you in the talk page of White Mexicans where I've been waiting for you for more than one month now as you seem to have come full circle with your arguments again. Pob3qu3 (talk) 03:56, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Have a look
It is regarding this article. The IP range changed/removed sourced content immediately after the protection (set by you) expired. Please take a look. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 20:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Feminist metaphysics
Hello. I know you must be a very busy person, but, if you are interested and available, I'd like you to take a look at the feminist metaphysics article. I have dedicated myself to expanding it and I believe that your knowledge can help, even if it's with small adjustments. Thanks! 😊 Gmsrubin (talk) 17:24, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Marc Gafni
You might find this of interest: Sockpuppet investigations/Netanya9. Skyerise (talk) 19:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @Skyerise That is indeed interesting!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 20:30, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Comment disappeared
What did I do wrong on this edit? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Misinformation_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war&diff=prev&oldid=1224486718

It's gone now? I didn't have a specific solution because I was reporting a glitch that I didn't know how to fix.

I was planning to make another request about something I do have a specific suggestion for, but I want to check how I got it wrong last time first.

I asked you there too https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Misinformation_in_the_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war&diff=prev&oldid=1224495523 but maybe that will get deleted as well so trying here.

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Revdelrequest
Hello, can revision-deletion be done for this? I feel like it qualifies, but let me know if it does not (as I don't normally make such requests). Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 12:03, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @Erik - done.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 13:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

You prematurely closed the discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Unsourced_defamatory_claim_about_Bret_Weinstein
You have prematurely closed the discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Unsourced_defamatory_claim_about_Bret_Weinstein. Would you please reopen it? Insofar as I can determine the parties commenting on the issue are ignoring the clear text of MOS:CITELEAD and MOS:LEAD. If indeed the plain text of MOS:CITELEAD and MOS:LEAD does not apply to BLP articles then that carve-out seems to indicate a change is required to the text of MOS:CITELEAD and MOS:LEAD. E.g. "there is no exception to citation requirements specific to leads"

Given Wikipedia's sensitivity to the the integrity of BLP articles, I'd expect that more attention would be paid to compliance with the clear text of Wikipedia polices. RealLRLee (talk) 20:29, 24 May 2024 (UTC)


 * No. You are the one who is ignoring (or refusing to hear) the policy. You received multiple opinions, all in agreement. If you think a citation is needed, use the article's talk page to ask for one to be added. There's plenty in the article to choose from.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 20:34, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * If everyone agrees with one interpretation of policies and guidelines, and agree with a different interpretation at some point you'll have to accept that consensus is against your position and move on. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:34, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Insofar as I can determine the disputed lack of citation(s) is in violation of MOS:CITELEAD, MOS:LEAD, and BLP ("All quotations and challenged material must be supported by inline citations to reliable, published sources").  Of course I could be wrong.  But, prior to User:EvergreenFir's premature closing of the discussion, I was unsuccessful in eliciting a reasoned explanation as to why those policies don't require the disputed claim to be correct cited or removed.
 * And now, as User:EvergreenFir preemptively closed the discussion, there is no opportunity to obtain the as yet missing reasoned explanation.
 * User:ScottishFinnishRadish: l "have to accept that consensus is against your position and move on"? Really?  Are you entirely sure that you're being truthful here?  As a Wikipedia administrator I would expect that you'd be very attentive to the veracity of your claims.  RealLRLee (talk) 21:23, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm sure. Sometimes our interpretations, the weight we apply to different policies and guidelines, or simply how we'd like something presented in an article don't have consensus. Happens to the best of us, even me, a vaunted Wikipedia administrator. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:28, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * User:ScottishFinnishRadish: Indeed?  I'd expect that were you closely adhering to the obligations that Wikipedia places on administrators for veracity and knowledge of Wikipedia policies then your "[I] have to accept that consensus is against your position and move on" would have been written, instead, "[I] have to accept that consensus is against your position and move on [or pursue the matter further via Wikipedia's dispute resolution mechanisms]".
 * If, User:ScottishFinnishRadish, I am misunderstanding the expectations that Wikipedia places on administrators then please explain how I'm getting this wrong.
 * RealLRLee (talk) 21:51, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Indeed! I'll have you know I'm the Heimlich county substitute administrator of the year three years running.
 * You've already discussed this on the talk page and BLPN. That's about as solid as consensus comes without a well attended RFC. Wasting a bunch of editor time pushing for more and more dispute resolution when there's a clear consensus isn't worthwhile. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * ScottishFinnishRadish: I'll bear in mind your failure to mention Wikipedia's dispute resolution mechanisms.  RealLRLee (talk) 22:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @RealLRLee - Have you had a previous account here on Wikipedia and if so which was it?  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 02:35, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I am a new Wikipedia editor but my girlfriend, who has some expertise in these matters is pleased that her tutoring has her none-too-bright boyfriend not looking like a neophyte.
 * She predicted that my habits of careful reasoning would bestir some of the people involved in Wikipedia editing. The constraints of WP:GOODFAITH prevent me from quoting her specific comments on this matter.
 * RealLRLee (talk) 01:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Fascinating. Perhaps she can tutor you on our policies too.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 02:48, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

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A question ?
You might find this interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Takbir#A_question_?

A comparison of Wikipedia and AI.

I believe there are elements of Wikipedia being turned into Islamipedia.

I know conservative and respectful editors - are being bullied - who are giving up editing Wikipedia.

I would appreciate your response.

Kelator (talk) 23:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Kelator what is Islamipedia?  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 23:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)


 * - many Islamic sections of Wikipedia extolling ﺣَﻘِﻴﻘَﺔ [the truth]
 * Kelator (talk) 00:08, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Kelator It sounds like you are saying there is a conspiracy to promote Islam on Wikipedia... beyond the typical state actors that is.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 03:19, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes.
 * And there by degrading Wikipedia.
 * For instance, Usage by extremists and terrorists of 'Allah Akbar', portrayed as a cinematic trope. Check out almost every Wikipedia article on the Quran  - they sanitize or avoid the contentious elements.

Kelator (talk) 07:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Kelator are you here to build an encyclopedia or you're here to prevent "Islamipedia"?  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)


 * On building encyclopedias
 * Go to Quran 2:230
 * Using RSs, write a Wikipedia section on it within https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Baqara
 * If you are a new editor prepare to get banned
 * The question is, are you here to build an honest encyclopedia, or here to bow to Islamic sensitivities ?
 * Compare wordings from any AI


 * I suggest not linking all this to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_bias_on_Wikipedia


 * Kelator (talk)
 * I don't understand what you're saying. That new users get banned for editing on that one page? Because from the edit history, it's all one user with different accounts. Speaking of which, do you have a previous account?  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 23:21, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If you can not understand what I am saying, then it is no wonder, Wikipedia's active-editor numbers are declining.
 * Kelator (talk) 09:34, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * You present your case with all the clarity of mud, Kelator. I can't parse what argument you're trying to make. —Jéské Couriano v^&lowbar;^v  threads critiques 07:35, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Graham Linehan
Heya, hope you're well. I've just noticed that you protected the Graham Linehan page for three months. Is there any way I could convince you to stretch it to an indef, or at least longer? The page has undergone a pattern of "protected for a year/6 months, immediately the same behaviour starts after the protection ends, page is protected again", repeated again and again for about five years. It's almost definitely not going to end any time soon, and because of the subject's anti-trans views I think there's a case for an indefinite semi-protection under GENSEX at this point. No worries if not, just said I'd ask to try protect the article from having the same happen again. Thanks, — ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 17:19, 19 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Ser! Let me take another look with GENSEX in mind.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Ser! Good suggestion. It's clear that after 4 years of re-upping the protections the problem has not ceased. I've indef protected it.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 17:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Fantastic, many thanks! ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 17:30, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

userboxes
is it ok for you as admin to display your own biases in your userboxes? doesnt seem like you want to be neutral 97.124.229.214 (talk) 00:13, 22 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I'll keep that in mind when editing pages about colors  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:04, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

AN that involves you
You might want to give Administrators%27 noticeboard a look - they didn't mention you by name (and didn't notify anyone), but I assume they're talking about you. – 2804:F14:80CF:B201:2D13:1B84:52B1:C3A3 (talk) 19:21, 22 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Thank you  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 19:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

RevDel request
Hi, I don't think we've interacted before and I hope it's alright that I ask you, but could you delete this revision (contains a slur; no sensitive material or privacy concerns) of the article LGBT rights in Europe if you agree that it meets the RD2 criterion? Felida97 (talk) 22:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Felida97 I've REVDELed it.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 22:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Wow, that was quick, thank you :) Felida97 (talk) 22:09, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

2600:1700:5AED:1000:0:0:0:0/64
That IP range you blocked last month is trying to use talk page as a blog while being blocked. - FilmandTVFan28 (talk) 04:33, 29 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @FilmandTVFan28 blocked further. Thanks!  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 05:21, 29 June 2024 (UTC)