User talk:Fayenatic london/Archive06

hi there
I'm also a Faye fan. I'll be editing and organizing Faye's page these 2 weeks, putting all the references and all that. Any specific problem we can discuss. CheersNeuyyar (talk) 17:58, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

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King Edward Park Entry
Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate your point of view and yet I can't help wondering why you have deleted cited material I added while you are "telling me off" for removing a quote. I am referring to the fact that the majority of the Councillors in our Borough are against Thames water's plans and that two Cabinet Members are going to present a motion at the next meeting. You see, the difference is that the quote I removed was taken out of context and twisted to suit Thames Water's case (are you really sure you don't work for them?! only kidding). The quote you removed is hard fact: the motion is going in. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trumankemp (talk • contribs) 10:51, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Oops, my bad. I meant to reinsert the deleted reference into the current article; I must have reverted to an earlier version by mistake. I did at least re-word the context of the Council reference in a way that I hope is a better reflection of the official position at that time. - Fayenatic (talk) 14:04, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for 2011 United Kingdom budget
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   08:05, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Unblock-IP request

 * Editing from 95.131.110.104 has been disabled by ProcseeBot for the following reason(s):
 * The IP address that you are currently using has been blocked because it is believed to be an open proxy.

My IP address at work is apparently 95.131.110.104. This belongs (WHOIS) to MessageLabs, a division of Symantec Corporation, which is used by many responsible organisations as an internet filtering service. A wholesale block on all editors using that service seems disproportionate to the vandalism of Royal icing committed by Special:Contributions/95.131.110.104, the last item for which a warning was left on the talk page. If other offences have been committed by registered users through this IP address, I cannot tell (as a non-admin), and no explanation has been recorded on User talk:95.131.110.104.

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Also, I am advised that MessageLabs is a proxy but not an open proxy. - Fayenatic (talk) 12:43, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll ping one of the admins on the proxy project for you, and failing that could look into an IP block exemption for you. Usually proxy blocks aren't based on any specific vandalism (so you wouldn't see any warnings) but longstanding policy on not allowing edits from open proxies. Syrthiss (talk) 13:15, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
 * http://95.131.110.104:3128/ gives a message that would indicate it's not open. --Closedmouth (talk) 13:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Major cleanup underway at Kayastha; your help would be appreciated
Greetings, I'm doing a major chop on Kayastha, removing caste puffery, adding proper citations about the controversy of their varna designation, and generally trying to hack out unref, OR, and other unsuitable materials. If you have any chance at all to chip in, it'd be greatly appreciated. Likewise, even watchlisting and keeping an eye out for upset editors removing my (full footnoted) notations about their possible Shudra status (an unpopular topic) would be appreciated. Thanks! MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:19, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Payments Council
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DYK for Payments Council
Thanks from me and the DYK project Victuallers (talk) 18:02, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Indian professional associations
Category:Indian professional associations, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:37, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Cited backcover blurb
C/E from my talk page: "Hi, were you getting a little creative with this citation? - Fayenatic (talk) 09:24, 10 May 2011 (UTC)"
 * My mistake there as a quick check of sources turned up this book but only an image of the cover; book blurbs (real word) predominately include an author note, and without the book in front of me, I assumed I had identified the same Tuttle, however, a further search corresponding to a Bill Tuttle who is a contemporary aviation consultant fits the profile of the author, and the last revision and reference source should suffice. Why am I such a prig about the original reference? The BreitB*rt sites are very suspect as sources of information as a number of historians and other reliable sources have taken the founder and people like editors like teabagger Queen D*na to task publicly as being shills for a rightwing effort to rewrite history. The sites are predominately blog sites although they do regurgitate other news sources but then comes the inevitable comment section dominated by absolute craziies. Just go onto the site once and scroll into the bottom comments section to get a feel for the conspiracy theorists that inhabit this low-life site. My major concern is to establish any precedence where BIG...... (anything) sites are accepted as credible, authoritative or verifiable sources of information, despite the one or two actually legitimate pieces of data that are found there. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 12:53, 10 May 2011 (UTC).
 * Thanks, that explains it all nicely. - Fayenatic (talk) 13:02, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Ignorant & irresponsuble removal of vital evidence on Devasahayam Pillai page
Hello Fayanatic london,

It seems that you are getting played into the hands of certain religious fanatics who, deliberately bluff and come-out with blatant lies and remain fully biased beyond recovery, yet pretend with their hypocritical vows as they are still safe-guarding the neutrality standards of Wikipedia. Kindly go and study sincerely the Christian martyr's history, without any prejudice,if you are a Christian before attempting to poke your nose! No one on earth has the right to destroy the evidence and corrupt the truth! If you are truly claiming in your User page, then please go and do justice to your claims immediately! Otherwise, it 'd be assumed that, unlike your brain-washed Hindu fundamentalist friends, you too are Brutes? or Judas? Also inform your misguided friends that it is not a page to portray Hinduism or any Hindu personality or philosophy, but a page about a Christian martyr! Can't you see the biased irrelevant reference quote No:3? On which published work or book Mr.A.Sreedara Menon / M.G.S. Narayanan / P.Paeameswaran wrote about Devasahayam Pillai as given there? (that is referred as quoted by Balram Mishra who himself is not a neutral scholar but a member of Sangh Parivar activists' association in India). If you are a neutral contributor, why this question didn't come to your mind?

Please don't try to hide facts with your misinterpretations and misunderstandings as far as the life of Devasahayam Pillai is concerned! Even now I wonder why you do this silly vandalism intentionally or out of any compulsion to serve your master(s)! Correct the faulty edits at once please!

Either you write the truth or keep quiet, but please never write similar lies on Wikipedia pages, O.K.! By doing this at least you can remain a good human being instead of becoming a poisoning catalyst by misguiding the esteemed readers of Wikipedia!--Kumaripriya (talk) 16:41, 10 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I replied at User talk:Kumaripriya. As for that source, it was stated to be printed in The Pioneer (Indian newspaper) rather than a book; the bias is all carefully declared in the article; and the relevance really is obvious. I must say, I have had more appreciative comments in the past, e.g. this and this. - Fayenatic (talk) 17:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your kind reply. But it is indeed unfortunate that contributors with little or no knowledge about Devasahayam Pillai are attempting edits. A good majority of them are either Hindu-elites who are suffering from Christophobia or active-members of Hindu-fundamentalist groups who have prejudice, hatred, cognitive bias, etc. against Devasahayam Pillai for obvious reasons. However, please note the following cold-facts regarding their quotes as evidence. 1. The Pioneer (Indian newspaper) is neither neutral nor impartial today, but simply a mouth-pice of Bharatiya Janata Party whose Rajya Sabha M.P. Dr. Chandan Mitra owns & edits it at present. So one can simply guess the quality of articles pulished in it being a pro-Hindu right-wing publication. 2. In Wikipedia Devasahayam Pillai article's reference note no:3 quote cleverly remains silent about when, where & in which writing M/s. A.Sreedara Menon, M.G.S. Narayanan & P.Parameswaran uttered their opinions about Devasahayam Pillai's martyrdom as given by Balram Mishra, who himself is a Hidutva-activist, in The Pioneer article. Hence it's proven beyond doubt that these elites are hell-bent to prevent the beatification of Devasahayam Pillai and so indulging in these sorts of mud-slingings at will without reason or rhyme. Also the provisions of WP:NPOV, WP:POV pushing, etc. are getting abused rather than being used mischiveously. Already an innocent soul was sacrificed by our ancestors foolishly, at least let'us not commit the same blunder now!--Kumaripriya (talk) 07:51, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


 * You can "simply guess" if you wish, but I look for evidence. I have added the facts about Mitra's ownership and political affiliation to the article on the paper, with a WP:RS citation. Nevertheless, as for the journalistic standards of The Pioneer, ITOPC rates it a great deal more highly than you do. Or are you going to "simply guess" next that the Indian Tour Operators Promotion Council is another Hindu extremist front?
 * As for that citation in the article Devasahayam Pillai, it explicitly states "Cited at HinduWisdom.com", so the possible bias is sufficiently declared (just like the heading "Account of his life as given by Roman Catholic devotees"). IMHO you had no excuse for deleting it, and were blatantly abusing WP:NPOV yourself. - Fayenatic (talk) 13:28, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Kindly don't beat around the bush anymore. This is a page written about a Christian martyr. It has no place for character assassination, whatsoever. Also distortion and corruption of historical truths and facts can never be allowed in it. Kindly inform the concerned radicals to go for their promotional articles somewhere else, but not on Devasahayam Pillai page in Wikipedia. If you are a genuine, unbiased and neutral contributor, then please make necessary amendments to the quotes of A.Sreedhara Menon, M.G.S. Narayanan & P.Parameswaran additionally in the reference note number 03 on the Devasahayam Pillai page. Till then, please note that the article will only remain biased and inclined towards pro-Hindu groups instead of being a neutral one in Wikipedia.--Kumaripriya (talk) 16:52, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I try my best to WP:AGF, but you seem to be incapable of looking at this except from your own partisan point of view. For your info, I am a preacher myself, but I don't do it here.
 * You come out with lots of strongly-worded allegations but you don't seem to listen. You say the Pioneer is a mouthpiece of the BJP; I wouldn't know, but ITOPC praises the quality of its journalism. If you can show me Indian broadsheet newspapers repeating your allegations, I will take them more seriously.
 * The article states objectively what other people have said, alluding clearly to where it was reported, and disclosing any reasons to suspect bias. It's getting the balance about right, although on reflection I will reduce the content about the objections, bearing in mind WP:UNDUE. Thank you for helping me reach this conclusion. - Fayenatic (talk) 18:27, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Regarding the article cited as published in 'The Pioneer' now was initially quoted as having been published in 'The Organiser', a mouthpiece of R.S.S.(Kindly scrutinize view history to confirm it)! I also had my regards for the old "The Pioneer" newspaper, but not for the present 'converted' one! I am not a preacher, but I don't get carried away & jump into conclusions so fast since I am very much aware of media manipulations, religious indoctrination, distraction by misleading, distraction by scapegoat,etc. particularly in the Indian context. Man who sleeps can be woken up easily, but not the one who pretends sleeping. I just asked where others did say those quoted statements? As long as a satisfactory answer is not furnished, I will be simply helpless. Either you oppose the truth and support the propaganda to cover-up the blunder of the past Travancore-rulers or openly support the innocent victim Devasahayam Pillai. The choice is yours. By the way, You never clarified which denomination of Christianity you preach full-time in London? I hope definitely not the Catholic faith! I am sure that you don't believe in martyrdom and Sainthood of Catholic church either! --Kumaripriya (talk) 09:19, 27 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Please clarify: what is R.S.S., and what history are you recommending me to view? You ask me "don't beat around the bush" but then you leave me these vague and puzzling hints. Be clear, paste some links! Do you realise that when you are viewing history, you can copy the URL right then, and paste it into my talk page so that I could see exactly what you see? - Fayenatic (talk) 23:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

What is meant by R.S.S. now in India is nothing but the one and only organization called Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh which is supposed to be the main-force behind Hindu fundamentalism and atrocities against other religions (including Indian Christianity) within the country.Even Mahatma Gandhi's assassin Naturam Godse was its active member. Many books are already written about it. The very fact that it was banned several times in the past after Indian independence will make things clear about its true nature. Majority of the B.J.P. members, including its national president Nitin Gadkari, are basically appointed by the R.S.S. as part of its agenda. P.Parameswaran, mentioned in Devasahayam Pillai page, is also one of its such full-timers. I will definitely try to provide links wherever possible in future. Thanks for your kind advice and will also be incorporated later.--Kumaripriya (talk) 15:48, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not the place to indulge in RSS-bashing or propagating any political or religious ideology. The Pioneer is a reputed Indian newspaper. Of course, it does have its inclinations; there are even people who believe that even the Chennai newspaper The Hindu is slightly left-leaning. If you feel that allegations against Devasahayam Pillai are made largely by Hindu nationalists you ought to reword the statements in the article in such a way not remove them altogether. Your edits are tilting the balance of Devasahayam Pillai's article. This is not acceptable especially as there is so much criticism of him. And then most of the books you have provided as sources have been published by his devotees or Catholic organisations which patronize him. Now, this is highly improprt.- The Enforcer Office of the secret service 14:53, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

English translation
Only if u can verify it. If it was a title already used, yes. but its not. The names of these articles relating to faye are all in english yet, they don't seem to verify that they are officially or by any third party source.Bread Ninja (talk) 21:38, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Continued at Wikipedia talk:No original research - Fayenatic (talk) 14:10, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Temasek Review
The DYK project (nominate) 06:05, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Douban
Thank you for your considerations. However, I enjoy tagging more than typing articles. Typing articles, to me, is time-consuming, and even tagging citations is more time-consuming. I have other duties, such as hobbies and school. Also, the "Douban" you referred resembles Yahoo, and I'm not sure if I must cite its pages for that. I don't consider citing a product description, especially from shopping sites like YesAsia and Amazon. --Gh87 (talk) 19:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Replies times two and a little frivolous sunshine
I'm MikeBeckett if I can help ask!  22:23, 24 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmm, it's not to my own taste at all, and in my experience people move away from garish designs once they start contributing on article talk pages or other behind-the-scenes stuff. But if you do want to keep the border and the coloured background, I preferred your old one,
 * so how about this: MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!'
 * or this, based on the latest: I'm MikeBeckett If I can help, ask!
 * These both include a link to your user page as well as the talk page. - Fayenatic (talk) 23:16, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
 * As most accessible colour scheme is black on yellow, which I am told is the easiest for the majority of the population to read, this is my rationale. Quite frankly I was going for accessible and friendly, in case this background brief helps...I think I personally err towards the former but it has too many characters to fit in the signature box... MikeBeckett 23:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Medical-themed films
Doomsday (film) is not a medical-themed film, at least not based on the category page's definition. I assume you're wanting to categorize films that have infections, and I think that should be a different category. Perhaps "Films featuring infectious diseases"? Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 17:39, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was thinking about something along those lines, but yours is better. I was taught that "infectious" only meant transmitted by air, but I see that it is defined to include contagious diseases; right, here I go! - Fayenatic (talk) 17:48, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Ray C. Hunt
Thanks for moving the Ray C Hunt page to Ray C. Hunt. Right after I created the page I saw that I screwed up the title. I had moved a page once before but it was many months ago and I was not in a mood to attempt it last night. I actually hoped some other editor would take pity on me and move it. Thanks again!

I have an intense interest in those who fought as guerrillas in the Philippines. I think I have most of the books written by many of the survivors. I have a few on my wish list to get though. I did almost all the work on Wendell Fertig, and I started the page and added a lot to the page on Jock McLaren which some Australians have also significantly contributed to. I also contributed to other pages on this group of people.

However, after a few run-ins with kids who say they know more than I about subjects that I have professional knowledge of (entomology, U.S. Marine Corps) and who revert my edits, I have pretty much opted out of doing any significant editing. Maybe after I retire in a year... Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 00:29, 4 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, and you're welcome! If you feel some of your edits have been wrongly reverted, feel free to drop me a line with the specifics. So long as you're citing WP:reliable sources rather than personal knowledge, there shouldn't be a problem. - Fayenatic (talk) 12:56, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Category:Anglican churches
I was just mirroring Category:Lutheran churches and a few others. There are differences in the various trees, I will delete the new category and use the pre existing one. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:18, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Template:Infobox family ‎
Hello, I just wanted to use it in the Turkish wikipedia but failed horribly. In the process of getting used to templates now, could use some help. Thanks Vakanuvis789 (talk) 13:32, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I am not an expert but may be able to help. Have you tried Help:A quick guide to templates? or WP:TEMPLATE? - Fayenatic (talk) 15:21, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Enderby (fictional character)
Per your comment at WP:CFD, would you like this undeleted and restored to your userspace to see if you can rescue it? Let me know if so. BencherliteTalk 22:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes please, I may as well take a look at it. - Fayenatic (talk) 07:11, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * User:Fayenatic london/Enderby (fictional character). BencherliteTalk 09:10, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Not much there... if anything, a section in the article on the first book should suffice. I'll look at it again later. - Fayenatic (talk) 12:30, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Millennium Mills
Hi I left a similar message on User talk:LoopZilla‎ but since you have been making lots of contributions to the Millennium Mills article I think you may appreciate a similar note. I was very happy to discover last night that an article to Millennium Mills had been created. I have been gearing up to it for about one year now, writing and uploading photos to commons (see User:France3470/sandbox9) although haven't quite managed to get to it yet. I have been researching the site quite extensively for over a year and have been working on a userspace article which encompasses most of this research. I just thought I would let you know some of the things I'm planning; it would be great to collaborate and share our knowledge of the site. I also live in London. At the moment I have plans to move my userspace draft, after a bit more editing to Grain Milling at the Royal Victoria Dock or a title along those lines. I should be able to finally get around to this sometime in the coming weeks, I have simply been unable to find the time required before. This article will (hopefully) include detailed information about all five flour mills formally at the site and their history. At the moment my intentions are to try to bring it up to GA class over the summer. I have some additional information to add from a few more books I've recently bought and lots of editing of prose to do. But it's something I'm exciting to continue to develop. Since there is now an article on Millennium Mills, which I always thought could easily warrant it's own article, some of the information from this soon-to-be article can perhaps be merged there. Would love to hear your thoughts, France 3470   ( talk ) 15:47, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, that looks like great work. You've clearly found a lot more WP:RS that we had. I recognise several of your sentences self-tagged as cn, from the best photo essay at urbex -- I was aware that it was not RS, but it seemed too good not to use! How about contacting the writer of that forum piece to ask about his sources? Meanwhile, do you mind if I use some of your material & sources straight away, as I'm planning to make a DYK nomination? - Fayenatic (talk) 17:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually I would say that most of the information at the urbex forum, having read all of it many times, is at best false assumptions. Having done lots of research there is a ton of unreliable, incorrect statements out there. In actual fact, the Portcities website is incorrect in some of their fact as well. So I generally try to avoid almost all web sources. The ones self tagged are basically facts I know are true but cannot find reliable sources for. I think though some can actually be resolved with some of the material I am currently sitting on at home. I suppose this is the main reason it has taken so very long to write the article in the first place. I'm been tracking down books, old and new which are much more reliable but I haven't had the chance to add it all. I'm alright with you adding some of the information, although it might be faster if I add them and then you give it a check over. I'd be really up for a co-nom if that's alright with you and I actually have a bit of time for once.  France 3470   ( talk ) 17:21, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes please! Co-nom would be fine. Also, I notice that you've identified the backdrop in File:DESTINATION1.jpg as CWS, although someone wrote in Royal Victoria Dock that it is Spillers (and I just linked that to Millennium Mills). Is it definitely CWS? - Fayenatic (talk) 17:31, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Excellent. (very excited about this!) I'll start now, might take a while but I'm on it. Not sure about the image, I know that Millennium Mills was painted as used as the backdrop to Jarre's concert, but I know that the CWS was also involved. The photo looks to me more like Millennium Mills so perhaps I was wrong in my labeling. A while back when I was doing that section I saw a youtube video (this one I think ) about the setup for it, and I had printed out an extensive article about the production, although not sure where the link for that is at the moment. Might be worth giving the video a rewatch. Let's leave comments on the talk page. France 3470   ( talk ) 17:44, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Image for DYK - Millennium Mills
I see no basis for swapping the current image in the set at Template:Did you know/Preparation area 2 with the image from your article. As noted at Did you know/Additional rules, "Not every submitted picture can be featured in the picture slot". This leaves two options: Before you jump at option 2, it should be noted that this option will not and can not guarantee the image will be used and with current timing the article is very likely to make its Main page appearance during a time period with lower normal viewership numbers than the one it will receive by staying in its current location. --Allen3 talk 14:04, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Leave things alone and let the set be moved to the queue in normal fashion
 * 2) Return the Millennium Mills hook back to Template talk:Did you know.

DYK for Millennium Mills
The DYK project (nominate) 06:04, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Good work!!! Gordo (talk)
 * I thought so too, and particularly enjoyed that collaboration! - Fayenatic (talk) 09:05, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Preacher's kid
I've just rewritten parts of the Preacher's kid article, which you had an interest in (and, I believe, a sandbox copy of). I think the good parts of the material deleted on 20 June have been incorporated; you might like to check. I think the original reason for the AfD have been addressed (although that does not necessarily mean the article will be kept). 202.124.73.65 (talk) 04:13, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Good work, well done! - Fayenatic (talk) 09:10, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

K. Balanos
It appears that the doublication of cube solution claim belongs to his father, while he contradicted his theory in Antipelargisis. However, K. Balanos probably meets wp:n. I will look into it the following hours.Alexikoua (talk) 16:48, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Actually yes, the right transliteration is -isis, or -esis, the latter being used in older books.Alexikoua (talk) 20:47, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Looks good. Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:58, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Arabic languages
I reverted all your changing of categories from Arabic languages to Arabic dialects. This is by no means a cut and dried affair since these varieties of Arabic are distinguished as languages by multiple sources. I am aware that Arabic sources tend to call them "dialects", but many sources call them languages and the majority of them have separate ISO 639-3 codes. Wikipedia has compromised the name of the article as Varieties of Arabic. I see no need whatsoever for two categories: Arabic Languages and Arabic Dialects. "Arabic Languages" is quite sufficient for the matter. --Taivo (talk) 23:58, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I had suggested the change at CFD on the parent category Arab, but obviously that didn't gain sufficient attention from linguists. You missed putting the parent back into Category:Dialects by language - I have done that now. I thought of the change in the first place to be consistent with the other sub-cats of that one. - Fayenatic (talk) 07:44, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Deleting the Page on Dr. Nabil Ayad
Hi there I am writing with regards to the above page which was was tagged for proposed deletion at 07:32, 21 June 2011 by your smart sense. I have already placed an undeletion request. Please see below and what is appropriate about it:

The deletion of the page on Dr. Nabil Ayad is quite surprising and I find it hasty and reckless because Dr. Ayad is a notable and distinguished personality of worldwide recognition and repute.

If you had just googled his name you probably would not have proceeded to delete the page.

Dr. Ayad is the founder head of the Diplomatic Academy of London which is world's top school of diplomacy and the only one of its kind. DAL has taught and trained generations of diplomats for over three decades and Dr. Ayad is the founder leader of the school. He has worked with Sir Peter Marshall and written a number of books on the subject. A detailed description of his achievement and contributions is available on the website of Global Diplomacy Academy. Please follow the links below for references:

http://www.globaldiplomaticacademy.com/bio.htm

http://www.globaldiplomaticacademy.com/symposia.htm

http://www.genevagsg.com/2010/12/dr-nabil-ayad/

http://culture-multicultures.blogspot.com/2010/11/interview-with-mr-nabil-ayad.html

Currently, he is Director, London Academy of Diplomacy, University of East Anglia, London and Professor of Diplomatic Studies, Nyenrode Business University, The Netherlands: http://www.uea.ac.uk/london/lad.

I hope you can restore the page with appropriate changes/additions/citations. Once it's back on the site, I'd add further details. I'll be looking forward to your quick response. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarral 99 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 10 July 2011


 * That article was tagged for proposed deletion at 07:32, 21 June 2011 (UTC) by Fayenatic london with the edit summary Propose deletion as insufficiently notable and the concern Notability not asserted, see WP:ACADEMIC. Per WP:PROD seven days passed during which time, if independent reliable sources existed per Wikipedia:Notability (academics) (there had been none since December 2009), other editors might have found and added them. That did not happen, so it was deleted a week later. You are free to consider Requests for undeletion. – Athaenara ✉ 22:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)


 * My apologies, I think failed to read the article thoroughly enough, and only took in that he was a professor at Westminster, which on its own would not be sufficiently notable; I failed to take in his role in the Diplomatic Academy of London. Thanks for getting it restored. - Fayenatic (talk) 22:22, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Institute of Financial Accountants
Hi Fayenatic London, Thanks for making the improvements for the University of Bolton degree link with the IFA! Appreciate it!! Auditguy (talk) 03:29, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Lucky I checked the sources in detail... I nearly deleted the sentence instead, thinking that the Bolton arrangement was only for the benefit of students rather than members. - Fayenatic (talk) 09:58, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Fayenatic London, does the "Reference Improvement" tag at the head of the article need to remain as additional citations have been made available? Auditguy (talk) 11:20, 23 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, because some sections (e.g. History) still have no citations. - Fayenatic (talk) 11:24, 23 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay, will keep an eye on it. In the meantime, I've cited the reference for the History section from the ICAEW library index of UK and Irish accountancy bodies. Auditguy (talk) 13:16, 23 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, could you please have a look and see if the additional references/citations is okay. Thanks for your time! Auditguy (talk) 13:32, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Good work, I've removed the tag now. Can you figure out from WP:CHEAT how to format the new citations more attractively? - Fayenatic (talk) 14:41, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Have done some clean up. Trust it is better now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auditguy (talk • contribs) 02:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Yup; I've tidied it a little more, see here. The main hint for external links is that within single square brackets, you can put the URL followed by a space and then the text that you want to appear (as I did within this reply.) - Fayenatic (talk) 11:28, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello Fayenatic London, noticed the copy edit you did on the IFA with regards the IFAC membership update. Many thanks! Cheers! Audit Guy (talk) 12:47, 17 November 2011 (UTC)


 * No problem! As you can probably tell, the article is on my watchlist. Your own work was fine really, but I was interested enough to check the citation for myself, and then I thought I'd add the full title of the reference. – Fayenatic (talk) 12:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Akrura Copyedit
Just thought I would let you know that I am going to copy edit the above article. Any problems can be addressed to my talk page. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 21:30, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Please go ahead. I only split it from another article. - Fayenatic (talk) 21:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Which article was this? I ask because I'm having trouble copy editing it because its written in a manner which has left me confused as to what certain things mean and, if I could ask one of the contributors of the original article, I may be able to continue with it. Sorry if I'm bothering you by the way, I just don't know who else to ask. --Skamecrazy123 (talk) 14:52, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I left a record of this at Talk:Akrura (and in the original edit summary) -- that should be all you need, otherwise let me know! There was also an anon editor involved, see Talk:Varshney. - Fayenatic (talk) 16:35, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

WP Anthroponymy in the Signpost
"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Anthroponymy for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Other editors will also have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 21:34, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Donde Quiera Que Estes
Hey, thanks for taking your time on copy-editing the article! Its very appreciated. Thanks, AJona1992 (talk) 13:54, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: [Beta Group and Rajmohan Pillai]
Thank you for disclosing at Talk:Rajmohan Pillai that you "have been interacting with the Beta Group for the last 6 months". As you have continued to edit the article after being notified of Wikipedia's policy WP:Conflict of interest, please would you disclose the nature of your interactions with that Group? - Fayenatic (talk) 17:24, 30 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I've been interacting with the group for the last 6 months with regards to business dealings from another company. I've interacted with Dr. Pillai and his team over the period and I strongly believe that with regards to the good work that he has done to the society, the point regarding the legal case is insignificant, harmful and incorrect in its stated form. The following are some of the arguments for deleting the section on the legal case and I'll provide Wikipedia citations towards the same effect within a few days:
 * The conviction by the lower court has been stayed by high court on the same day, and till the time the high court doesn't take a hearing on the matter, there is no conviction neither are any fundamental rights of the individual taken away. (references would be given to this effect).
 * There is a delay in settlement of legal cases in India (references would be given to this effect)
 * For this one case against Pace Hitech, which is one of the 9 companies in the Beta Group, there are quite a few others that have been concluded and where Dr. Pillai won the court case against the Government.(I would provide you citations with regard to the case numbers). These could be added to the profile with citations and case numbers. However, this would make the profile look more biased to the legal aspects.
 * All legal cases against a company would be appealed against the managing director or one appointed thereof. In this particular case, the case against Dr. Pillai is the fact that he "should" have been aware of the malpractice in one of his 9 companies - more sort of a moral responsibility. There is no physical evidence that is found to support the same, which you could read from the case details.
 * Dr. Pillai over the period has created many jobs and given support to many entrepreneurs and I think it is unnecessary to give such importance to this case which is still not concluded, in Wikipedia.
 * I would like to give you an argument slightly at the extreme level to try and prove my point. The revolutionary Indian freedom fighter, Bhagat Singh were in many articles referred to as a revolutionary "terrorist" . However, Indians consider him a one of the most influential freedom fighters & martyr, and it would deeply hurt our sentiments to even accept such a point of view and Wiki has taken note of the fact and not included the same in the main page though certain references are added to this effect from good sources.


 * Hence, I request you to invoke the 5th guiding principle of Five pillars, to delete this section in the view of the above reasons. If required you could give a link and add this as part of the references, but not the main page.


 * As you advised, I've created an article on New Age International University. There were certain errors I committed since I was new to Wikipedia and I apologize for the same. Further changes would be made once the discussions reach a conclusion in the discussion forum. Thank you.


 * Pramodpotti (talk) 04:57, 31 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I replied at Talk:Rajmohan Pillai - Fayenatic (talk) 06:05, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I replied at Talk:Rajmohan Pillai. However, I wasn't able to figure out how to email you the link privately. If you could, kindly drop me an email at pramodpotti@gmail.com so that I could send you the link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pramodpotti (talk • contribs) 06:44, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Category:Companies of China
I have closed the DRV as "restore pending RFC". Will you now go ahead and raise an RFC? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:29, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks – Done, at Category talk:China. - Fayenatic (talk) 20:28, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Sunlight Soap WW 1 Ad.jpg


A tag has been placed on File:Sunlight Soap WW 1 Ad.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image page for a missing or corrupt image or an empty image description page for a Commons-hosted image.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 10:19, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

[Repeat of above template] Marcus  Qwertyus  17:58, 5 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah – I get it now: we mustn't add metadata such as categories to Wikipedia pass-through pages for images hosted on Commons. Maybe there should be a clearer explanation of that? Could that be incorporated in MetaWiki, to come up as a warning when someone edits such a page? Even a clearer statement in the above template would help. - Fayenatic (talk) 18:05, 5 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The speedy deletion warning above should also be a little more clear. I'll see what I can do later. Marcus   Qwertyus   15:05, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for South Africa Conciliation Committee
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:02, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Child characters in written fiction
Category:Child characters in written fiction, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 00:36, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that certainly set off a busy day at CFD! - Fayenatic (talk) 19:09, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: Categories for people by region
Yes, they are intentionally separate. We need to create a lot of categories, by they should be separate, IMHO. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk 19:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Although after your cleanup, the only cat amiss is the Category:Serbian people by region. We could just rename it to Category:People by region in Serbia and then safely delete the Category:People by nationality and region. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk 18:11, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. After that, Category:People by region in country might as well be merged up to Category:People by region. If you like, you could just make these changes yourself and tag the obsolete categories for speedy deletion as db-author. Otherwise, I would be happy to nominate them at WP:CFD if you like. - Fayenatic (talk) 21:52, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Let the bots do the heavy lifting, that's what they are for. But I am not sure if we should depopulate the "by country"... what if at some point we grow the related categories again? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 03:15, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I've replied
Mum&#39;s taxi (talk) 11:04, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Another reply Mum&#39;s taxi (talk) 19:59, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
Alexf(talk) 14:48, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Christian martyrs of Modern Times
Category:Christian martyrs of Modern Times, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:40, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Coventry Cross (monument)
Orlady (talk) 00:02, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Bold?
Please if you dont like my suggestion of a reversion - before giving any explanation at the CFD/rename here or at my talk - please note that the best place is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indonesia - specially if you are interested in neutral ground :) - at least the project talk page is where some 4 or 5 years ago we laboured had and long to arrive at the titles in the series and template headings - at least it cvan be somewhere that is easily findable down the line in time. cheers SatuSuro 11:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! Yes,i read it,sorry i am a beginner,i will improve it soon i hope ..About classifying cemeteries by religion: - it is sort of important to do that,maybe not our time,but in the old days, religion had played an important role in life- as well as death. And since most of those (almost all) cemeteries i edit are historic ones, denominational background plays an important role in terms of genealogical research. Evangelidis (talk) 23:41, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Elias = Helios
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding closure. The thread is "Merger of Elias into Elijah". Thank you. -- Andreas (T) 20:48, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Someone else closed it, and I implemented it. – Fayenatic (talk) 13:13, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

John 1:1
Hi I am sorry I am new here, I hope this is the correct place to reply to your message. For my editions in John 1:1 topic, I removed Horner's quote because it wasn't faithful. I showed the correct one in the next paragraph. Images of his translation and explanation of grammar here: https://sites.google.com/site/christiantopics2020/coptic-john-1-1 It is " [a] God" not " a god", and his apparatus says "the Square brackets imply words used by the Coptic and not required by the English" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerry20 (talk • contribs) 23:49, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Layton's quote wasn't accurate either, and the book is available on google books. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerry20 (talk • contribs) 23:47, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Circular and bypassing categorisation?
Hi!

You were involved in recategorisations leading to a situations now discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fictional characters. If you have any remarks on the categorisation, please add them at that discussion!

Best, JoergenB (talk) 20:11, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Olympus
Hi, I see that you took an interest in the recent scandal involving Olympus. I would invite you to participate in the creation of an article dedicated to the topic, The draft is here in my userspace. Cheers, -- Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 02:20, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the invitation, but I don't think I'll have much time to contribute. – Fayenatic (talk) 22:13, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The article has now been developed and moved to mainspace. Feel free to update it there if you are in the mood. -- Ohconfucius  ¡digame! 09:25, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Shakespeare categories
I've implements the authors category changes. Based off of this related close, I might argue that the Shakespeare ones should be "Films based on works by William Shakespeare," etc. If you agreed, then Category:Modern adaptations of works by William Shakespeare would probably stay unchanged. Your call, of course. If I don't hear from you, I'll go ahead with the Shakespeare changes as you closed them.--Mike Selinker (talk) 20:05, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Mike - well spotted, and I hope I catch you in time to change the other 3 that should likewise follow the the "Foos based on works by Bar" form agreed in section Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_October_20. Please see revised close. – Fayenatic (talk) 23:06, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If you have already submitted them, let them go through and I will do any required tidying up afterwards e.g. to reinstate part of my original close if you've implemented it and/or insert an intermediate category. – Fayenatic (talk) 23:19, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * All taken care of. Thanks for closing this! Also, I've suggested an adjustment to one of your speedy nominations based on this, the "plays and musicals" category. Adjust if you like. And if you're up for more, please take a look at this multipart nomination that no one else seems to feel like closing, probably because it mostly consists of an argument between Timeshifter and me.--Mike Selinker (talk) 23:32, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've just done that one as well. I slept on that one so hope it stands up better. Cheers! – Fayenatic (talk) 23:44, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I put that on working as well. Think we're done here. Thanks again!--Mike Selinker (talk) 00:23, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * From your close, should I have merged Category:Works based on plays by William Shakespeare into Category:Adaptations of works by William Shakespeare? It's now the only "Works based on plays by..." category.--Mike Selinker (talk) 07:53, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You did it right, but it's a good point: I did not consider upmerging that one. I thought it was right to keep a subcat of Category:Adaptations of works by William Shakespeare by play alongside the sibling Category:Adaptations of works by William Shakespeare by medium. For clarity, I would have liked to keep the end of the category name "by work" or "by play" but I could not think of a good one in that form. Considered on its own, the old Category:Adaptations of Shakespeare by play was perfectly clear, but I concluded that the long form "works by William Shakespeare" could not be avoided for consistency with others. Category:Adaptations of works by William Shakespeare by work/Category:Adaptations of works by William Shakespeare by play strike me as too long-winded, so I plumped for the nominated rename.
 * At the time when I followed "Foo based on bar by...", I kept this "Works based on plays by..." because this did not seem OCAT, as it was not a lower level of category intersection than "Films based on works by...". However, on further reflection, upmerging would be a good outcome. Would it be cheating to change my closure again? I'd be happy to make a further nomination. – Fayenatic (talk) 13:41, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure you can change your closure as many times as you like. :^) I will upmerge as noted.--Mike Selinker (talk) 18:16, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Neat, thanks again. I finalised the closure. – Fayenatic (talk) 22:27, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Hosanna
I am going to be bold and remove the entire Islam subsection as it sounds unreliable and unrelated to the article. I hope that is OK. --Farzaneh (talk) 14:06, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Virgin Steele
Template:Virgin Steele has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Bulwersator (talk) 09:52, 15 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Yea, sorry for that. I saw the AfD a few days ago. I took almost a year of wikibreak (electromagnetism was not gonna understand itself =P), but I'm back! Anyway, thanks for saving the template .^^ --Neo139 (talk) 23:45, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Wolfgang Heinz (actor)
The information already existed in the article. Follow the existing link in the article for "National Theatre School in Berlin" in the "East Germany" section, which if you hover over it you will see it point to the academy. So according to his article, he was the director, hence the category. Hope that explains it. Aboutmovies (talk) 04:22, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Navy categories
The November CfDs are all closed except for these three Navy categories:
 * Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_November_17
 * Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_November_23
 * Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_November_24

Feel up to closing them? If you decide to rename any or all of them, I will implement the close.--Mike Selinker (talk) 02:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. If I had participated in the discussions I would have supported the minority view that the short name was clearer, but the majority outcomes were unavoidable. – Fayenatic (talk) 08:36, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice to know. I often find myself in that spot. Out of curiosity, would you like to be an admin?--Mike Selinker (talk) 15:04, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * My usual answer is that I'm having too much fun editing! I wouldn't want to get drawn away from contributing directly. The status quo works for me. Do you or others feel that editors like me ought to get round to adminship, especially if we close Xfds? – Fayenatic (talk) 15:51, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I kinda got dragged into it, and I haven't regretted saying yes. It gives you lots of tools. Totally up to you whether you want to pursue it.--Mike Selinker (talk) 17:31, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Season's tidings!
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 19:12, 26 December 2011 (UTC).

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