User talk:Govvy/Archive14

timo werner
why your edits are reverted in that page is to follow the style of others. see for example João Félix and João Cancelo. In the lede "and the Portugal national team" is mentioned as in the vast majority of pages where a player has actively played for one. TheOneSome1 (talk) 22:00, 10 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Seconded. The comma after "on loan from... RB Leipzig," sufficiently indicates that he is only on loan from RB Leipzig, not from the German national team as you said it suggests. Profavi1 (talk) 22:34, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Nope, you're creating a sentence list, loan is the first instance for the list sentence structure. You can't loan from a national team, so therefor, the text needs to be written differently. Govvy (talk) 22:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * without the words between commas it would be "plays as a forward for club Tottenham Hotspur and the Germany national team" though TheOneSome1 (talk) 22:42, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Are you following the two objects of the football club and the national team in the sentence after the subject of the loan? I don't see that as good grammar, do you? Govvy (talk) 22:49, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Doesn't matter what you see, it's objectively correct English, please stop reverting the edits. Profavi1 (talk) 22:51, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Govvy in your edits some could go as far as thinking as he's on loan from a club called "RB Leipzig and is also a member of the Germany national team" though TheOneSome1 (talk) 22:59, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Govvy That's literally not true mate, commas are used for things other than lists! In this case, the commas indicate a subordinate clause.   The commas are saying "Timo Werner... plays as a forward for Premier League club Tottenham Hotspur – on loan from Bundesliga club RB Leipzig – and the Germany national team". Alternatively, imagine it says "for Premier League club Tottenham Hotspur (on loan from Bundesliga club RB Leipzig) and the Germany national team". In the article, the commas fulfil the function of the dashes/brackets in the two examples I've just given you. It doesn't create a list. Profavi1 (talk) 22:50, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Using the subordinate clause "on loan from …" is a phrasing we frequently use for loans. It's correct grammar. Robby.is.on (talk) 22:59, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * on loan from isn't the problem, it's the second object with no thought of the prose between the first object to split the sentence. Simply adding a comma, doesn't split from the subject at the beginning of the sentence. And there is certainly no period splitting the two. The start of the sentence is the loan, you've added the national team into that sentence of the loan. Govvy (talk) 23:06, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Govvy Like Profavi1 said, imagine if the commas were brackets. They would function the same, just that they're brackets, not commas. They would clarify the sentence but if with brackets it's correct then so with commas. TheOneSome1 (talk) 23:31, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Govvy It most simply does... please familiarise yourself with rules of the English language! Profavi1 (talk) 00:20, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Please don't be rude, I don't believe you went to Oxford either. Please don't message my talk page again, I don't trust you, as you appear to be a suck puppet. Too many shenanigans going on here. Govvy (talk) 17:03, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

"Socks"
"It's clear to me that these editors have no interest in having correct sentence structure." Maybe, @Govvy, you should take a look at the pages of every single other footballer on loan, and notice how their opening sentences are all parsed in the exact same way as in Werner's article, and realise that maybe it's you that is wrong, instead of every other Wikipedia editor being a "sock".

And I don't really care whether or not some stubborn Wikipedian who doesn't understand basic English believes what university I attend. Good day to you!

(P.S., here is a BBC Bitesize article explaining the use of the commas in the sentence. I hope this provides some clarity.) Profavi1 (talk) 17:09, 11 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Seriously, leave me alone. TheOneSome1 is clearly a sock to me, and you, Stop, you're being very insulting. Govvy (talk) 17:15, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Zarlor Mercenary DYK
Hello! I've noticed that you nominated the Zarlor Mercenary for the DYK, but per WP:DYKRULES, the article must be new enough, and I don't see how it was considerably expanded within the seven days preceding this nomination.  Delta  space 42 (talk • contribs) 19:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd thought it would be a fun DYK, I see those discriminatory type of rules. It's one of my favourite games of all time. I just wanted to share. Govvy (talk) 21:47, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

You should check out Wikipedia Library!
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https://m.facebook.com/sindhfootballleague

this is only how karachi league can be updated, even rebranded league not held for 2 years. and if check edit summary where unrelated editors go randomly after grammar or any correction (wondering how someone not from pakistan follows these things, forgetting good faith principles .......)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CS_Dinamo_Bucure%C8%99ti_(basketball)

(here dont want to remove outdated players)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Army_F.C.#

(dont know format rules (jersey/duplicated parts...)

kind regards! 93.138.235.76 (talk) 14:22, 29 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Umm, I don't know who you are, or if you get this reply, but that doesn't help in showing WP:GNG at all, and certainly doesn't help the article at all. Govvy (talk) 11:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * deletion is ok then, just gave context 93.138.235.90 (talk) 13:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

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‎Unofficial Tottenham Hotspur taskforce/project
Hi, myself and another user had the idea to try to get a taskforce/project going so Spurs fans can all focus on similar articles or just keep tabs on what other editors are working on.

They made the project on a userpage here and welcome you to add whatever is of interest to you, and we can always add more pages as we need to.

COYS! Pksois23 (talk) 07:18, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Hiya I find the main footy project pretty encompassing and there is a hell of a lot to do. I started cataloging all the old Tottenham seasons to wikipedia. But I have work and family to look after, so I really don't get the time like I use too for wiki. But by all means, do as much as you can and good luck. Regards. Govvy (talk) 19:58, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Got it, thank you. Pksois23 (talk) 01:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

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Frances Segelman
Hi, I have added a reason to my clarify tag on this article; the reason being that I had not come across "friend of the RSA" before, so wanted to know either what the role is, or whether it is an error for "fellow of the RSA". Best wishes, Tacyarg (talk) 20:54, 13 April 2024 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I am not sure why it's written like that, anyone can become a friend of the Royal academy, here is her exhibits list, you get articles like this,, I know a fair bit, probably cause she is my auntie! :/ Anyway, I rarely goto the article she is on my watchlist know. Govvy (talk) 21:38, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
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 * Hello, Govvy,
 * Editors in this reopened AFD discussion are eager to hear from you about any newly found sources you have located. Liz Read! Talk! 03:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

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Best European Goalkeeper
Hello! Thank you very much for your help in removing fake information. There is a small problem that I discovered while researching the topic of football awards. There is an article called Best European Goalkeeper, but it contains different awards that are most likely not related to each other. UEFA did award the Club Goalkeeper of the Year from 1998 to 2010. There are sketchy details of the award from European Sports Media. However, I did not find any data on the award from 1990 to 1997. Could you help me put the article in order in accordance with available reliable sources, or draw the attention of competent Wikipedia users? Mitte27 (talk) 14:35, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I believe from 2011 it went onto fans voted team of the year, which included the goalkeeper, however no awards were given out as far as I know. Govvy (talk) 15:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * Govvy (talk) 18:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

1906–07 Western Football League transclusions
Where from or where to? Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I've already had my problem fix, thanks. Govvy (talk) 10:42, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

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