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WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - January 2009
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List of operas by Adam
Just a note to say that I don't have access to Grove on this one - so if you do it might be worth checking the details. -- Klein zach  23:01, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Lists of operas
I've set up a new 'To do' list here. -- Klein zach  15:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Zaira and the rather obscure operas of yore
If you think it more expedient, I hope you will be so kind as to revert my move of Zaira yourself and to correct the Bellini operas navigation template back again, as well.
 * As to the rather obscure operas of the 17th and 18th centuries, I sincerely do hope that, sooner or later, as many of them as possible may be brought again to the light they very often are worthy of (surely as worthy as Bellini's phantasmal Zaira). All the best. Jeanambr (talk) 17:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

MOS:DASH
cf. the linked bit of the Manual of Style, your last edit on The Tempest added spaces around em-dashes which the MOS proclaims should be unspaced. No biggie since GAR doesn't care and we'd need to do a review of this before FAC anyways, but it might be useful to keep in mind for the future. --Xover (talk) 18:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

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Incidental music: Category
Hi. No, it was General Aleksey Petrovich Yermolov - see User:JackofOz/Family connections. (If you already knew that, and Bennigsen was a coded reference to something else, it went over my head. Sorry.)

OK, I'll cop it sweet about Königskinder. I read it too quickly.

However, I'll take you up on Ariadne auf Naxos. We're told: That says that incidental music was composed, performed once, put aside, but now occasionally revived. When that does occur, the incidental music is quite distinct from the music for the opera that follows the play.
 * As well as composing the opera, Strauss provided incidental music to be performed during the play. In the end, the opera occupied ninety minutes, and the performance of play plus opera occupied over six hours. ... Hofmannsthal proposed to Strauss that the play should be replaced by a prologue ... Strauss was initially reluctant, but he composed the prologue ... This is the version that is normally staged today, although the original play-plus-opera is occasionally performed (for example, at the 1997 Edinburgh International Festival).

Btw, I haven't used "the mere presence of the expression 'incidental music' in an article" to put it into the Incidental music category. There are many hundreds of articles containing this expression, and I chose only those ones that seemed directly relevant. I felt I was being quite judicious, actually. Cheers. -- JackofOz (talk) 22:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

List checks (final)
Michael and I have more or less finished our labours. Are you still interested? If so these lists could benefit from a final check. Best. -- Klein zach  09:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I don't think it should be too onerous. -- Klein zach  12:29, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Changes to Portal:Opera - Discussion
I've opened a discussion on this at the OP.. All contributions welcome. (I'm notifying all OP members who have participated in the discussions about the portal) Best, Voceditenore (talk) 09:56, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposal to add 'voice part' column to List of operas by Handel
You may remember we talked about the 'voice part' column in List of operas by Mozart and whether to do similar ones for other lists. There's been a proposal to do one for the List of operas by Handel. I'd be grateful if you could have a look here. P.S. I don't think those proposing this really understand fully what is involved, re castrati etc. -- Klein zach  00:24, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * I've also referred to the possibility that you might eventually have time to check the Handel list (see here in case you want to respond. -- Klein zach  23:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Architecture of Leeds
Welcome to the fray! I follow up most of the principal author's edits to try and tweak grammar and spelling, but the whole piece feels wrong. It reads as if the main source is Leodis database and other things randomly googleable. I feel I should sit down with Pevsner/Wrathmell and try and rescue the pre-skyscraper stuff, but it's a big job. I did add St John's church. Also, of course, there's the interesting question of "What is Leeds?", ie should this article also include Otley, Pudsey, Harewood, Bramham, etc? (Have you seen Talk:Leeds lately? It's dreadful.) Cheers. PamD (talk) 12:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Larkin Again
Someone on Talk:Leeds pointed out that some of us in the discussion are allowing the excitement of it all to get in the way of our being useful elsewhere on WP, so I've turned to a (short) book a very kind friend found for me on eBay: A Lifted Study-Storehouse: The Brynmor Jones Library 1929-1979 by Philip Larkin. The current paragraph on the Larkin page about his activities as Librarian I single-sourced from the Richard Goodman article. Knowing as much about libraries as I do about limestone pavements (I know one when I see one, and that's about it) I'm a bit scared about making a total mess of this, and was wondering what the best course of action would be. As the section stands (a) is it hopelessly flimsy in an all-round dismal fashion? or (b) just in need of attention in particular areas? Or maybe I should trim the detail out of the current paragraph, keep it as the introduction and then go into more detail? Did you see that in the autumn someone added a rather fine section on the Critical Opinion of PL? I was especially taken by the quotes from Chatterjee, Sisir Kumar (2007) Philip Larkin: Poetry That Builds Bridges, Atlantic Publishers: India. ISBN 8-1269-0606-5, which seemed almost to delight in going against the received opinion of What's Wrong With Larkin. As a matter of interest, how did Such Deliberate Disguises turn out to be? On a completely irrelevent note, I recently happened upon a performance of Verdi's I Lombardi, a piece which proved to be distinctly better than what the standard line on his pre-Luisa Miller operas had led me to expect  almost - instinct 19:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

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Word break for 'subdivision'
I wonder if you can give an opinion on the best word break for 'Subdivision'? It's a small matter but Michael Bednarek and I seem to be deadlocked, and I see you are around. See here. -- Klein zach  07:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Larkin GA review
It occurs to me that this won't be appearing on your watchlist: Talk:Philip Larkin/GA1. We've a very concientious and methodical reivewer looking over it, and some interesting discussions have been thrown up, some of which might benefit from yr specialist knowledge of the subject!  almost - instinct 15:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As you'll see if you look at the GA review I've rather thrown my toys out the pram. There's one editor I don't seem to be able to cope with. However the editor who put it up for GA review seems to know what he's doing, and I'm sure would appreciate your comments. Having to write up a Magic Flute... do you write for OPERA magazine, or something?! Since I'm being nosey, may I ask when your Hull years were? I suspect that there are/were people we know in common  almost - instinct 09:38, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * How very wise, not living in Hull! Can't say my years there were my fondest. My father worked in the university administration in the mid-70s, so probably knew Larkin to a degree. The only thing my mother can recall hearing Larkin say to him was "Ah, David, last time I heard, you were in foreign climes". That sounds about right!  almost - instinct 10:02, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

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H.M.S. Pinafore
Having cleared the comments at the peer review, I have submitted the article to FAC. Please vote here: Featured article candidates/H.M.S. Pinafore/archive1 or let me know if you have any further comments. All the best. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:23, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

It's been promoted. Thanks for your help and thoughtful comments throughout the process! Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:37, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Current Opera Project discussions
Hello from the Opera Project. I'm writing to all members on the active list to let them know that we could use your input on several issues currently under discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera:
 * The use of italics in article titles
 * Possible changes to the article guidelines concerning "Selected Recordings"
 * Suggestions for the July Composer of the Month and Opera of the Month

Please drop by if you have the time. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:11, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

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WT:OPERA
[Cross-post from there] Terrific! And many thanks for the prompt response. Opera Japonica isn't a live site any longer, but there may be other synopses there (by other authors) that can now be used here. --GuillaumeTell 23:48, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


 * No. The OTRS identifies Kleinzach as the owner of the site. It doesn't give permission for us to take what we want. Only he can move material from there to here unless he files another OTRS opening up the site completely. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:57, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Please don't move anything over until and if Kleinzach gives such permission. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

OTRS
Well, of course you're able to use anything you wrote (unless you signed over rights to Kleinzach), but just better to be careful when a problem could arise. =)

As for OTRS: I only know it with regards to images and other files. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 17:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Prima Donna synopsis
Thank you for letting me know. The synopsis provided comes directly from the program for the opera itself. I had planned on crediting the summary to the author (D. Kramer), but I was not sure how to do this. Please forgive me for my lack of knowledge. Even with crediting the author, does one need to paraphrase the summary? Also, how can the author be credited? I was rushed yesterday with typing it out, so I was planning on going back to check for errors and crediting the author today. Thanks again for letting me know. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 17:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I commented on the synopsis at the article's talk page, so feel free to respond there if you prefer. Thanks again! Another Believer  ( Talk ) 17:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback. I look forward to watching the article expand and develop based on the expertise of opera fans. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

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2 replies
Thanks for your note on my talk page. I'm still not fully caught up. I'm not sure about the Gendarmes duet. I'd guess that they're both baritones of any kind. One could be a bass-baritone, but since it's a comedy song, I think vocal type is probably less crucial than characterisation. I don't think the song is very rangy, so most male singers, except maybe some tenors, ought to be able to handle it. I haven't had a chance to consider your Gaiety question, but I'll take a look when I get a chance. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Cuthbert Brodrick
Yes, I think you are right about the copy violation aspect. I'll try to reword the text tomorrow. I only added the refs because the name jumped out from a childhood memory of visiting Leeds Town Hall. Thanks for pointing it out. --Harkey (talk) 17:05, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I've moved some text, added headings, added infobox and reworded parts to try to avoid copyright issues. Please, if feel that you can improve on my efforts (and I'm sure you can), continue the good work.--Harkey (talk) 18:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Geneviève de Brabant
I finally got to your question. You are correct, the date is 1871, and I have now corrected it at the opera article and on Farnie's article. I can open the google book link to the libretto in the External Links. Unfortunately, it seems that you cannot access it from the UK. If you can find a link that works from your computer, feel free to substitute it, but the copy of the libretto that is there now has a title page showing the first date of performance and some production info, e.g. that Soldene directed. Charles Morton (impresario) was the theatre manager, and apparently this was his regular company at the theatre. -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:51, 3 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Looking forward to seeing what you found. After many run-ins with you-know-who about two years ago, I stopped contributing anything about English-language translations/adaptations of the European operettas.  He objected to all information about the English versions, saying that the info doesn't belong in the articles and that if I must write about them, I would have to start separate articles.  This is a strategy with which I strongly disagree, because I think the reader of English Wikipedia should be able to see info about English-language versions of operettas and their original versions without having to click back and forth between two articles.  Is it safe to wade back into operettas, or is he still monitoring them?  -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. Of couse, if we expand the discussion of the original European production, then information about the English-language productions will usually be better balanced. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:57, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

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Edit War
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.56.77 (talk) 23:00, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Jean Lassalle
Thanks for the comment at Voceditenore's talk page. Your thoughts were very helpful and clear. If I come up with any other problems I certainly will come to you for help. Thanks too for fixing The Bartered Bride U.S. premiere info.Singingdaisies (talk) 00:39, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Paul Barroilhet
Thanks for fixing my mistake/cleaning up Paul Barroilhet. I can't believe I typed tenor in there... How embarassing.Singingdaisies (talk) 17:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Yes I was tired. I have a rather cushy job with a lot of down time/gaps so I do a lot of editing while at work. I am music director of a church and it really only takes about 4 hours a day to do what I need to do. Wikipedia helps pass the time. Of course Christmas and Lent/Easter season are crazy. lolSingingdaisies (talk) 18:15, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Paul Abraham
Hi, let you a reply on my page. Clever, clever name you have. --UnicornTapestry (talk) 00:44, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for the fixes at Ignazio Marini. It is much appriciated.Singingdaisies (talk) 16:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the compliment. Perhap's Marini's portrayal of Felice in the United Kingdom premiere of Poliuto in 1852 got you onto that article. It probably was the Les Martyrs version performed in London given that Marini is a bass. I contemplated giving the opera's name as Les Martyrs, but Grove specifically said Poliuto. What do you think?Singingdaisies (talk) 18:19, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * That makes perfect sense. Do you think the article is fine as it is or should I mention that the performance was probably an Italian translation of the 1840 French revision (of course that comment could be considered OR...)?Singingdaisies (talk) 21:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the feedback. I wonder if any other sources list Nourrit as a librettist... I've currently got a few projects in progress but one of these days I might get around to digging up some more content on Poliuto.Singingdaisies (talk) 21:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

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Royal Theatre of Turin
hi there, thank you for your message.

In this case Naming conventions overrides other languages if a proper name in English exists. Your examples of La Scala and Theater an der Wien are amusing, however do not work, because in this case it's the name of the opera, just like "La Fenice" would obviously not be under "Phoenix" (I think we can agree on that). However the theater in Turin does not have its own "brand" name, it is simply the royal theater, as is evidenced in the name inscribed on the UNESCO listing of Residences of the Royal House of Savoy. cheers Gryffindor (talk) 18:10, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

C.Hodgson Fowler
Please, do you have any knowledge of the architect C.Hodgson Fowler. I have been tidying up the Sykes Churches Trail and his name has cropped up a couple of times. All that I can get by googling is passing references. I thought you might know of a book or other source that I might obtain. Thank you.--Harkey (talk) 21:36, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your very informative reply. Yes, a stub would be very useful. I shall try to obtain a copy of the book that you mentioned. It was only published in 2001 so BL at Wetherby must have one.--Harkey (talk) 08:41, 8 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. An afternoon well spent, I would say! You managed to dig out a fair bit of information, well done.--Harkey (talk) 18:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

The Triumph of St. Joan
Thanks for the minor alterations. I actually prefer your lede to mine. :-) I had seen The Trial at Rouen years ago while I was an undergraduate music student at Westminster Choir College. One of my professors somehow had a VHS copy of the opera, although I don't think it has ever been released commercially... I remember really enjoying Malbin's performance of Joan and since I recently have created articles on many of the role creators in this work I decided to write an article on it.Singingdaisies (talk) 00:48, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Misclick
Hey GuillaumeTell. I just misclicked in my watchlist and rolled back your last edit to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera (and immediately undid it). Just wanted to let you know so you wouldn't be left wondering. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Richard D'Oyly Carte
Thanks for the edits! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:35, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Utopia, Limited has been punctuated (or not) in every conceivable way (sometimes with the dreaded parentheses).  Gilbert's libretto disagrees with some of the vocal scores (which disagree with each other), and the punctuation of the name varies within the libretto itself!  The cover page has the word Utopia over the word Limited.  Gilbert's own correspondence is inconsistent, and other publications that list the names of all the operas are all over the map, although a plurality punctuate it Utopia, Limited in the various publications.  Wolfson, Ainger and Stedman all call it Utopia, Limited (at least most of the time).  The best score available [here calls it Utopia, Limited.  See also the Walbrook chapter on it.  Marc Shepherd says that there is no definitive way to punctuate it, and he agrees with me that Utopia, Limited seems to be the best choice.  As Ralph Rackstraw says, "I hope I make myself clear...."  -- [[User:Ssilvers|Ssilvers]] (talk) 17:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

My wife and I have asked a crowd...
Welcome back! Please come join the fun at the Philip Larkin Peer Review. There are a couple of instances where we are crying out for the sleek elegance of your prose :-) You'll be pleased to hear the Brideshead Revisited reference has bitten the dust. Also excised is the phrase "...Down Beat, the first of Larkin's many jazz magazines". I was delighted that my puerile joke went undetected for so long  almost - instinct 10:27, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
 * After Larkin had shuffled off to "the total emptiness for ever" a locked cupboard in his office in the BJL was found to be extremely well-stocked with what Viz would call "jazz mags"  almost - instinct 01:07, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for sudden silence - am away in paradise for a few days. When I return at the weekend I'll go through the Peer Review page, filleting waht still needs to be done, and sorting it all out so it's more readable. Till then,  almost - instinct 18:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I hope the big sorted pile I've just landed on the talk page is of help! I'm now off for a well-earnt lie-down  almost - instinct 10:28, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm beginning to think the my prince has come. Has all the sources, knows the subject backwards, keen to add to the article etc etc. I certainly intend to give him as much help as I possibly can. Given that the gentle peer review process has broken down I have urged him to be bold and amend/add to the text as he sees fit.  almost - instinct 09:31, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes I had seen it! (I can't remember why or where - maybe just when I was Googling) At any rate, nice to be reminded of it, a lovely piece, thank you :-) My fave bit:


 * “Well, I see you are young, but surely you must be at least an associate professor.”
 * “No, I’m not an academic.”
 * Larkin’s smile widened with open delight.  almost - instinct 11:06, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - November 2009
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 * Welcome to the nineteenth WikiProject Yorkshire monthly newsletter.
 * Welcome to the nineteenth WikiProject Yorkshire monthly newsletter.


 * WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 7,532 last month to 7,738 on October 30th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 43 out of a total number of 2.034 articles. In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 52 is just ahead of WP:GM who have 47.

If you would like to discuss changes to Priorities, please join in at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire

Currently there are seventeen Yorkshire featured articles:

Henry Moore • Caedmon • Sheffield Wednesday F.C. • George Calvert, 1st Baron Baltimore • History of Sheffield • York City F.C. • Joseph Priestley • Stocksbridge Park Steels F.C. • M62 motorway • Valley Parade • William Wilberforce • History of Bradford City A.F.C. • Last of the Summer Wine • Ealdred (archbishop) • Paulinus of York • Wilfrid • Cosmo Gordon Lang

There are also ten featured lists:

List of York City F.C. Clubmen of the Year • List of York City F.C. managers • List of York City F.C. players • List of York City F.C. seasons • List of Bradford City A.F.C. seasons • List of York City F.C. records and statistics • List of Leeds United A.F.C. seasons • List of Scarborough F.C. seasons • List of awards and nominations received by Arctic Monkeys • List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Cleveland

Thank you and well done to all those who contributed.

Drax Power Station passed a GA review on October 5th Thomas of Bayeux peer review initiated on October 8th Sheffield was demoted from FA on October 9th Anne Brontë failed a GA review on October 10th East Riding of Yorkshire peer review initiated on October 23rd Leeds peer review initiated on October 25th David Wetherall passed a GA review on October 26th County Borough of Leeds nominated for GA review on October 26th Philip Larkin peer review initiated on October 27th County Borough of Leeds promoted to GA on October 30th
 * Article Activity


 * Member News

There are now 70 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! A warm welcome to the new members that have joined us since the October newsletter:



No members left the project this month:


 * Thanks


 * For those of you who made changes and looked after the school and university articles after last month's feature.


 * There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.


 * The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.


 * WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.


 * A big to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.


 * Priority Articles

The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -


 * Bradford • East Riding of Yorkshire • Henry Moore • Kingston upon Hull • Leeds • North Yorkshire • Ripon • Sheffield • South Yorkshire • Wakefield • West Yorkshire • William Wilberforce • York • Yorkshire • Yorkshire and the Humber

The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.

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 * Aims

After discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire in April 2008.

Specific aims for the project are:-


 * To complete tagging and assessment of all Yorkshire related articles (See below)
 * To recruit more active editors (See Member News)
 * To bring our top level article Yorkshire up to Featured article status
 * To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
 * To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
 * To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members


 * Popular pages

Arctic Monkeys fight it out with Dracula
The addition of the popular pages facility to the Yorkshire sidebar last month has thrown light on which of our articles Wikipedia readers actually access most. The first month for which there is complete data is September when Arctic Monkeys were in pole position with an average 6,869 hits daily. In second place with 5,781 was Wuthering Heights followed by Dracula with 4,996. The table is sortable on a number of attributes but the sort takes a while to complete.

As the page has a link to current data it is possible to see and compare current raw data for daily hits. So far the October statistics (up to October 20th) reveal that Dracula with 5,474 daily hits is well ahead of seasonal favourite Guy Fawkes with 4,411, and last month's favourite, Arctic Monkeys, are pushed into third position with a daily hit score of 4,259.

Three football clubs Leeds United A.F.C., Hull City A.F.C. and Middlesbrough F.C.get into the top 25 along with several pages about literary topics such as the Brontë family and their works. Television personalities are well represented, Jeremy Clarkson (4,559) is 4th overall in the list and Judi Dench is 23rd with a hit score of 1,577. Do the history topics in the top 25 suggest homework assignments?

It will be interesting to monitor the rise and fall of pages on the list which will also suggest where our efforts as a project might best be directed for maximum impact.


 * Please remember...

The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on September 4th.

Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible. Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
 * Monitor
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Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
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Leeds
If you have any time to spare Leeds needs some of your expertise to provide Alternative text for images. Many are images of buildings so choosing the correct words is important.(I mean, what is the thingy on the top of the town hall actually called?) :-)--Harkey (talk) 18:27, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * See, I said you knew the correct words. :-)--Harkey (talk) 19:11, 6 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Just experimented.. It was at Template:Infobox_settlement which uses | image_alt = --Harkey (talk) 18:10, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

PS Superb descriptions.--Harkey (talk) 18:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the work, it's great stuff!! I don't think the ogg thing needs any text. I fixed the other problem with the infobox images. Each one has a separate name. I got me cross-eyed (and cross) for a while, though. 8-)--Harkey (talk) 19:11, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sitting back and looking at your work with admiration. I've just looked up the definitions for admiration and this one fits best,

n. A feeling of pleasure, wonder, and approval.

Thanks.--Harkey (talk) 18:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi again and thank you again. I've just checked through the alt texts for Leeds. I purported to be reading for errors, as you requested, but got so interested in the descriptions that I kept clicking my way back to re-examine the images. I saw things about Leeds that (in all my years living and working there) I had never noticed before! The Civic Hall is a personal favourite building. I agree that John Smeaton is out of place on the page. I think the whole notable/lord mayors section could be moved. I don't quite know where, though. I suppose that it can always be reincarnated from the old version of the page if it's needed in the future for any reason.--Harkey (talk) 16:13, 13 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I would really appreciate more comments on the peer review. I think that the present one concentrates more on structure than content, which I suppose is a temptation for reviewers as it's safe ground for them, particularly when you read the talk page. I would like to see the article achieve GA status for the sake of all the regular editors who have toiled for so long to just maintain the article against vandalism and points of view.--Harkey (talk) 20:18, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Day by day your estimation clocks up...
On a totally different note... After going to the latest revival of the Miller Rigoletto at ENO I was wondering if this chap's name ought to be in blue: Anthony Michaels-Moore. After a Google search I found the following four sources: Do you think that would be enough to go on?  almost - instinct 19:00, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) His website
 * 2) His agent's website
 * 3) Operatoday
 * 4) The Times
 * Alice Coote is still in red?! She seems the kind of singer who would have a fan club. Thank you for offering to to add details to Anthony Michaels-Moore. Will do it tomorrow afternoon, and leave a this-in-still-in-construction template up for you to remove once you're done  almost - instinct 22:52, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * He's in blue! :-) Please have as much fun with it as possible  almost - instinct 15:37, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I knew you would enjoy wikilinking all those opera companies! ;-) Nice chronological order for the Verdi, too. I'm feeling bemused that there's a squabble on the PL page that I'm not at the centre of. Whatever next?!  almost - instinct 13:38, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The squabble has become a full-scale edit war, so I'm keeping going to try to keep well away from the PL page at the moment. SlimVirgin is going against consensus, Allriskinrev infringing rules ... ugh.  almost - instinct 11:00, 17 November 2009 (UTC)  almost - instinct  11:00, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * PS At moments like this, one becomes very grateful for the sanity of Usertalkpages  almost - instinct 11:12, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

"Uh, you could have 'd everything that you typed in - that's what I do - and clicked "Show preview" to see whether it came up red or blue" Yes, I know that - but you're not allowing for my suddenly becoming very lazy! In reality I'm not very knowlegeable about the correct names for european houses and imagined that I'd be opening up a can of something I didn't understand ... much easier to let you do it all ;-)  almost - instinct 14:01, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I would have thought that Anyway, I've mostly been out (healthy exercise, travelling, eating, drinking, buying books, attending a meeting and socialising, listening to singers) today, so am rather out of the loop constituted getting back into the loop :-) Anyway, I'm willing to bet that the list of outstanding items from the PR will still be sitting there patiently when you return...  almost - instinct 08:33, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

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List of operas by Cherubini
Only a small point, but I'm wondering why you made the deletion to the List of operas by Cherubini. Normally in these lists we note alternative names under which the operas were performed, though usually I think in parens after the title. Best. -- Klein zach  00:57, 5 December 2009 (UTC)



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