User talk:Henrik/Archive 6

add Wikiprojects to stats site?
I'd also like to echo the positive feedback to your site. Very nice to know what is popular. Any chance we could have a function which indicates popularity of individual articles when you select down to a Wikiproject (i.e. Wikiproject Birds). Most articles have been assessed. We could then know what people are reading in our respective areas of expertise..... Pvmoutside (talk) 18:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I will do those analyses for you in some days. --- Greetings, Melancholie (talk) 01:48, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking care of stuff in my absence Melancholie! henrik  • talk  18:22, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

nice tool for vandals
thanks. HA! HA! HA! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.122.250.142 (talk) 12:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * hohoho, indeed. henrik  • talk  18:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

He may not be coming back
He put up that vacation box (at top of page) July 1st folks. I wish I could take a long vacation. I bet he isn't coming back and so probably that is the end of the tool Chrisgj (talk) 00:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Nah, I'm back now. I've had a long vacation (and it's taken me a while to get my gears back up and running after coming home. It's amazing what some time out in nature does to cure ones computer addiction). The stats has been offline due to the server running out of disk space and I haven't had the time to code up a more disk efficient solution until now. It's crunching the data for August now, and it should be up within a few days. Unfortunately about half of july is probably lost for good. henrik  • talk  17:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh well. Just another hole in the data. Equally unfortunately I anticipated this but only downloaded a few of the files that you already have, instead of all of July as I intended. Maybe someone else saved them. Delphi234 (talk) 01:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Stats.grok.se problem
When the page is initialized, the month selected is May instead of July, and URL hacking for the current month doesn't work anymore. Could you please fix the page to be up-to-date? And don't remove the possibility to view stats for the current month by URL hacking, please. :-) Admiral Norton (talk) 23:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * In it.wiki, the month selected by default in Stats.grok.se is December 2007; July and August are not selectable, because unavailable in the list. Same request to above :-) Bye! -- Roberto  Segnali all'Indiano  04:33, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Same request as above. Also, the July stats stop at about the 11th or 12th of July.  Coincidently (???), this is August 13th.  Perhaps the dates are a month off?  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  00:27, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Henrik, please come home!! We neeeedd you to fix the stats.grok.se counter!!!! Akindofmagick (talk) 19:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It'll be back soon! henrik  • talk  18:24, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Anyone fluent in Python who can fix the stats tool?
There is a script in the raw data for the stats tool. Anyone with the skill care to look at it and try fixing it and running it on your own web site? davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  00:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The script you mean is not one of Henrik's; and it does not work properly (respectively it only works at the data source itself). I could extend my analyses to the functionality of stats.grok.se, but actually I still hope that Henrik will come back (by now even hoping that nothing bad happened to him during vacation)! --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 11:58, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree Melancholie - I'm concerned, too. But the Wikimedia blog seems to give some indication that Erik Zachte] will start to keep page view stats, so there's hope no that front.  Besides that - Henrik, where are you?  Drop a line and let us know you are okay.  -- David  Shankbone  20:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean to worry anyone! No, I'm perfectly fine - I've just been away for a long time (on several different trips), and didn't feel like using a computer all that much in the time I actually had internet access. Thanks for caring, it actually means a lot. henrik  • talk  18:03, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Welcome back, everyone needs a vacation from time to time. You can see from the response here how many people appreciate your work and your utility. Bubba73 (talk), 20:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Absolutely, the responses here heave been heart-warming. Thanks all. Plus I'm motivated to write an article or two now. I think it's time to try for a second little bronze star on some article in the near future. :) henrik  • talk  20:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It's great having you back from nature :-) --- Greetings, Melancholie (talk) 20:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I blogged about you and the stats tool
Henrik, I blogged about your stats tool and the introduction of a page hits by Wikimedia. -- David  Shankbone  19:06, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh my, that was quite a moving post and it makes me feel very bad for not checking in at all :) The stats will be back soon, but it sounds good that the foundation is putting up an official solution and not relying on, well, unreliable people like me. henrik  • talk  18:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Wondering
Did you put somthing on Simple Wikipedia that made google as a default of searching? Because I dislike that =\ --Runningblader 00:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Nope, not me. I have however made a small script that runs google searches, but (at least here on en) people have to install it manually. henrik  • talk  18:04, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

traffic
hallo henrik, is it possible to update this very interesting tool? (there is no july and august) thanks --62.143.249.236 (talk) 06:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It'll be back within a few days. henrik  • talk  18:10, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Come on people READ these discussions before posting!
Read these discussions and you'll see over the last 8 weeks, at least a 9 people asking Henrik to update the statistics. If you read these discussions, you'll learn that Henrik is on a very long vacation and someone recently hired is supposed to get the statistics working again soon. Please, enough is enough already! Chrisgj (talk) 06:23, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Would Henrik be OK if we put a notice box at the top of this page to explain the situation? That would help at least those users who can read. I must admit, I check pretty regularly to see if the tool is up again. It's all about me! :) Franamax (talk) 22:59, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Many thanks, but I'm back now. I've coded up a more disk efficient solution for the stats tool and it should be back up and running again within a few days. henrik  • talk  18:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * This is good news. I'd think you'll be able to fry eggs on top of the server for a few days, until pent-up demand is satisfied. Franamax (talk) 21:30, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

live edit counter
Can you please fix the User:Henrik/ubx/User contrib userbox? It's no longer showing live edit counts. Thanks. --Closedmouth (talk) 13:44, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The reason is that query.php has been replaced by api.php, by the way (new: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=users&ususers=Closedmouth&usprop=editcount (with new syntax, not item(0) anymore); User:Henrik/js/live-edit-counter.js)... --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 21:05, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I see. Do you know how to fix it? --Closedmouth (talk) 05:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia traffic statistics
Dear Henrik,

First of all let me thank you so very much for designing the wikipedia traffic statistics tool. It is indeed a very useful tool and helps us all to have an idea of the impact of our contribution to Wikipedia. I wanted to ask you a couple of questions. First, does your tool measure now unique hits? I have noticed that whenever I work on an article the amount of hits meassured are very high. Second, I am also very interested in learning more about the demographics of the wikipedia traffic to my articles, who are they? What age? How long do they stay? What references do they click on? Would it be possible to have a tool like this in the future?

I appreciate your time, Henrik, and let me thank you again for your useful contribution to the wikipedia universe.

Best, --anunezsanchez (talk) 14:18, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi! It's good to be back :)


 * No, what is counted are page views, so if you look at page and then reload it it'll be counted as two hits. As you've noticed, editing the article will cause several views. Unfortunately, the data stored is pretty rudimentary - just views - nothing about who did it, who they are or where they are. Wikipedia gets up to 40-50 thousand hits a second during peak time, and there simply isn't enough server resources to do a detailed analysis of each view. Perhaps someone could write a tool to do that selectively for a sample of users, or for a certain article, but I don't really know of any such tools.


 * Thanks! henrik  • talk  14:25, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


 * @How long do they stay: That is impossible to meassure accurately! Readers open pages in browser tabs/new windows or just go and drink/eat something (or do the reverse ;-) while having a page opened ... @ Who are they: That would be against policy ;-) @What age: How to figure out? The only tool I know is Demographics Prediction by Microsoft. @What references do they click on: That would be interesting, actually. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 15:04, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Moving boobs 5000
Thanks for sending me that message. That was not me who did it, but I just checked the history and someone used my username. I have changed my password. I am very keen to get this fixed up because it indicates that someone was able to steal my password. It was a strong password too, made up of 8 letters and numbers. If possible please ban my account until this is sorted out. My blogsite is http://one-salient-oversight.blogspot.com/ so we can converse there. I repeat PLEASE BAN/LOCK MY USER ACCOUNT until this is sorted out. - User:One Salient Oversight —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.197.211 (talk) 11:08, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * If you've changed your password already, everything should be sorted out and there's no need to block your account. You might have just accidentally left your account logged in on some computer other people have access to. henrik  • talk  12:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * That assumes I use more than one computer. I don't. The last time I logged into Wikipedia under my username from a different computer was about 2 years ago. And even then the password was different to the one I just changed from. --One Salient Oversight (talk) 00:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Assault
Hi, I think an image will be good for the article Assault. Is the Image:Girl sufferedwithburnwounds.jpg appropriate for this article? See this version.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 06:15, 5 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I really have no opinion on this. Try asking on the talk page to get input from the other editors on that page? henrik  • talk  12:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

RE:Small note
I had given that editor multiple hints before he started to attack me. I told him what he needed to do on wikipedia via the helpful links, but he did not follow the hints. Then he tried to tell me, after I had given him the afd link, that I was out to personally destroy the article. If it looks like I bit him, then so be it. I don't like to come off like that, but he did not do the simple task of reading up on things instead of attacking me. Undead Warrior (talk) 20:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter?
Have you considered publishing a little newsletter for your stats.grok.se tool? I've been working on a report using the data provided by this wonderful tool. It would be really helpful and convenient and tasty if you let me know when you upload all of September's data. And October's data. And so on. Wewt. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 02:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello!
Thank you for a truly amazing tool!

Cheers mate!

&Lambda; u α (Operibus anteire) 13:47, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! henrik  • talk  12:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I am just being honest. :)
 * Out of curiosity, does the tool count the number of unique visitors or just how many hits?
 * Cheers mate!
 * &Lambda; u α (Operibus anteire) 12:17, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia article traffic statistics
Hello. I'd like to know what does exacly count the "Wikipedia article traffic statistics". Is it the numbers of click on one link, or is it each time a wikipedia read an article whatever he did to go there ? 92.134.222.148 (talk) 14:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

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Update of Top
Could you update Top lithuanian lang. articles in your stats site, cuz last update is more than half year old (February). Thanks ;).--Pontiakas (talk) 16:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Absolutely. Should be done by this weekend. henrik  • talk  20:04, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

AH-26 Jet Jeep
Hi Henrik Thanks for your help on this article but I'm going to have to start all over again. Some bloody idiot named DragonflySixtyseven moved the article moments after I finished it and deleted all my work. What's left is no longer accurate and shouldn't be displayed without major rebuilding, and I simply don't have the time for that today. I've gone to the discussion page for DragonflySixtyseven and it's crammed full of people complaining that he's moved or deleted their articles. I'm not sure if he's a vandal or just doesn't have the slightest idea what he's doing, but in either case he's destroyed a lot of floks hard work and seems to think he's acting as some sort of Wikipedia administrator. It would be terribly helpful if you know someone at Wikipedia who could shut this bloke down until they can sit down and have a chat with him about not messing with the articles. Reviewing his contributions, I can't see as he's done anything worthwhile on the site at all, just a lot of moving and damage that should be the sole duty of the Wikipedia staff. - Ken keisel (talk) 20:27, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Henrik. What you're saying is partially true. What is different is that I had been constantly saving the article while I was writing it so that I wouldn't have that very problem (yes, it has happened before to me). What this bloke did was merge my two thousand word article to a pre-existing "stub" that I decided not to use because the title was incorrect for the subject (it lacked the manufacturer's name). When you do that the article that is merged to the pre-existing article is lost completely and only the original article and title is retained. I had planned on doing something like that with my article by merging the old stub to it when this bloke named DragonflySixtyseven merged my article to the stub first. If I'd have had another minute or two it wouldn't have been a problem. I didn't get upset until I saw his fellow's duscussion page and saw that it's crammed full of other people complaining about him doing the same thing to them. - Ken keisel (talk) 21:03, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

What DragonflySixtyseven should have done is either linked my article to the stub until the conflict could have been examined, or contacted the authors of both articles in an effort to encourage us to create a single article encompassing the best features of each. The reason this fellow is catching so much flack from users is that he's merging articles without doing either of the two things I've just mentioned. As a result one person's (or more) article is getting completely deleted at the expense of the other. As you say, I doubt he's hearing anything from the fellow who's article survives. One final thing, if he's an administrator than he should have known that my title for the article was the correct one under Wikipedia standards as it included the required name of the vehicle's manufacturer, while the "stub" was using an unacceptable title (in other words, if you write an article about the "Buick Le Sabre" you have to title the article "Buick Le Saber", not just "Le Saber"). As such, the "stub" should have eventually been merged to my article as the current title he retained is the incorrect version (this was the reason I wasn't modifying the original article). I'm sorry, but based on what I've seen and what others are saying about him on his own discussion page, if he is an administrator he's not a very good or knowledgeable one. - Ken keisel (talk) 17:47, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The article that currently appears in the history is the original stub that I was attempting to replace. It contains none of my text or formatting. I have no idea why my name appears on the history associated with it. The article that I was writing under the title "American Helicopter XH-26 Jet Jeep" was saved at least four times while I was working on it, but none of my saves appear anywhere in the current article's history. What DragonflySixtyseven did was merge my article after I had finished it with the other "stub" article (under a different title) in the wrong order. As a result, the entire contents of my article and it's history were wiped-out, as when you merge two pre-existing articles together only the contents and history of one is retained.

Hi Henrik! Quick question :)
Hey dear, I just got back from a computer-blowup-forced break, and I've noticed an oddity with afc-helper. When I choose "accept", it is putting a space in front of my signature (in front of the four tildes) which ends up putting the signature in a /pre box. It is also not finishing the edit, instead you have to press "save" after using the "accept" option. I haven't tested all of them, but has something changed with either AFC, or the way the script is running, that could explain this? Or perhaps something I need to do on my end? No rush, but if you could look at it, I'd appreciate it! Cheers, Ariel  ♥  Gold  23:55, 13 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Ariel! I've been away for a couple of months as well, so things may have changed in our absence. I'll take a look at afc-helper again and get back to you. henrik  • talk  20:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Some data about Wikipedia article hits.
I had the following question to ask, and they forwarded me to you.

"

I am looking for a breakdown of the hits per article in Wikipedia. So far I have found the 1000 most viewed articles. I am looking for a more comprehensive list. Something like this... http://stats.grok.se/en/top but including all, or most, of the articles on Wikipedia.

Thanks again. "

and they told me this

"

Wikipedia keeps some of that data internally, but other then http://stats.grok.se/ there hasn't been a effort to create sorted lists. If you have a short list of articles you want to know about it should be easy to run each one individually and compile your own ranking. However, if you need something more complex I would recommend either running your own data mining or convince Henrik do to it for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Henrik "

So can you help me please? =)

I really appreciate all the work you do. Keep up all the good work.

88.203.17.165 (talk) 09:37, 14 September 2008 (UTC) Reuben Bartolo ReubenBartolo@gmail.com


 * A complete data dump of february is here, if that is recent enough. If not, I could put together one for a newer month. henrik  • talk  20:33, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for all this help guys. I really appreciate it. However ideally I do not get the data for only one month, but rather cumulative. For example: In one month a title like Google Chrome might be popular, but when seen over time, it is not. So therefore the data would not be just for February, because that would just show current events. It should be something like, "over time, the article about Malta is very popular." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.158.36.186 (talk) 08:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Missedwardcullens
She just got blocked so fast and hard, and didn't really look malicious to me: just lost and not understanding at all what she was expected to do. At least, I assume its a "she": I'm not sure if its "Miss Edward Cullens" or "Missed Ward Cullens". Neither makes much sense.Kww (talk) 14:59, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Assistance with copyright problems board?
Hi. :) There's a ticket coming for closure tomorrow at the copyright problems board with which I could use the assistance of somebody who reads Swedish, and I'm hoping you might be able to help. The article in question is Social Security (Sweden), which has been tagged a copy of this site. As I understand Swedish copyright law, here, most official information is exempted under paragraph 9. I'm not sure if this is an official website, however. While they handily translate that page, they do not translate the page that would probably tell me, here. If you are able to shed some light on this, being all multilingual, I'd appreciate it. :) I'll watch your page, in case you have opportunity and inclination to respond. Thanks. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:08, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * forsakringskassan.se is indeed an official site of a government agency. I haven't found anything at all about copyright or licensing on their site (the page you linked would have been a good spot for it). I don't think there's any general rule that information published by the government is in the public domain in Sweden, but I could be wrong about that. henrik  • talk  20:29, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much for looking. :) According to the World Intellectual Property Organization, in Sweden there's no copyright in "(1) laws and other regulations, (2) decisions by public authorities, (3) reports by Swedish public authorities, or (4) official translations of texts mentioned under items 1.-3."here. I was presuming that this would qualify, if the site is official, as a report by Swedish public authorities. Of course, that might be more specifically related to official pronouncements, and less to official websites. I'll seek clarification at WT:C. I think it goes without saying that copyright questions are an area where it's best not guess wrong. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:48, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Personal abuse
Just because I corrected his grammar another editor feels compelled to say that I have attacked him and that I am a DICK. In England, if you call someone a DICK it is a deadly personal insult. The sentence I corrected was grammatically wrong. In real life I am an English teacher and do not take kindly to pupils swearing at me and writing abusive messages on the blackboard because I have the audacity to correct their grammar. Maybe people call each other DICKS all the time in America but in England the word 'DICK' is a deadly insult. Think of the worst racist swear words you use in America and apply them to another culture (ie England). My crime, it seems, and the reason I have to be personally abused on my talk page and called a DICK is because I changed:
 * Whilst 44% agreed that "America is a force for good in the world."

into:


 * 44% agreed that "America is a force for good in the world.

IMHO the first version is not grammatically correct and is in fact meaningless. Colin4C (talk) 20:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)


 * To be pedantic, what he did was to quote WP:DICK at you (despite its provocative name, it is an essay worth reading). But, as I said, I'm not interested in arguments that amount to that it's the other guy's fault. I strongly hope you can both disengage, bury the hatchet and move on. There are still oh.. one or two articles that need writing around here. :) henrik  • talk  20:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Hej Henrik, hur mar du? Tack for medelandet du skicka mig. Jag forstar det hela med "I'm not interested in arguments..." - eftersomatt jag sjalv ar admin (jag ar Scarian och jag tar vara en riten paus fran "knapparna"). Tack annu en gang. Ha de bra! (Forlat i forskott anom det ar svart att forsta vad jag skrivit. Jag har tyvar inget svenskt tangentbord) [med hjalp av User:Deaaaa] Utan Vax (talk) 15:16, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Tack sa mycket, van! :-) Utan Vax (talk) 23:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Your block of Oxyman42
I did not ask for the block, but I think it was proper, and probably has avoided further disruption. Per, I only added the note about unblock because it does not hurt to make sure the editor knows how to request unblock. I've used an unblock template myself, and it was a convenience to not have to look it up to know the exact syntax, I just copied it from the block display. Most of what I did was to make it clear to that editor that we are not trying to keep him away, that his positive contributions are welcome, and to help him to return and avoid disruption. Thanks again for reviewing my request for page protection. Your action was better, I think, than what I requested.--Abd (talk) 15:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

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Stats
Hi. Cutting right to the cheese, why haven't the stats updated to past 12 September? I guess I'm being a little impatient here but I'm just wondering. Thank you very much for your time! 75.169.203.208 (talk) 00:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi! It's updated now, and the process should hopefully be fully automated from now on, meaning that pesky unreliable people (i.e. myself) are no longer directly in the loop to get the stats up every day. henrik  • talk  15:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Henri. Thanks for the excellent stats visualiser. There seems to be a small bug though. I selected "Tamil" for project and, for various months, clicked on the "Top" button. It gave the top visited pages for 200808 always instead of the selected month. Will you please fix that? -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:49, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Some article traffic questions
Hi. Add me to the long list of people who love the traffic stats pages (both stats.grok and wikistics). Some questions:
 * 1) Would it be possible to determine what percentage of articles receive different levels of viewership each month? That is, X% viewed less than 1 time per month, Y% viewed less than 30 times per month, et cetera. I'm trying to get an idea of what percentage of viewership 'Random article' yields (likely less than 1 view per month), average monthly page viewership, top 10%, et cetera.
 * 2) Have you ever looked at a list of least viewed pages? I'm curious whether they are obscure encyclopedic topics, complete junk, or some mix of the two.
 * 3) There are sometimes articles which are highly ranked in the statistics despite having been deleted or indeed never having existed at all (e.g. ). I assume that this is due to automated processes which keep trying to access the page over and over again. Do you receive data about the page VIEWERs which could be used to filter out such 'mass repeat' instances? --CBD 13:30, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

User Talk
I had requested for my usertalk to be deleted and you had stated that userpages are not usually deleted. I had previously gone to delete it but that attempt was denied however they had made it seem that if I waited and tryed for deletion again that it might be granted. I just wanted to know if there was any other reason that you did not grant the deletion request besides the fact that it is a user talk? Thanks. Mygerardromance (talk) 18:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No, it's just that its the general policy around here that talk pages aren't deleted except in very special circumstances. But you're welcome to blank it, or move the contents to an archive. henrik  • talk  18:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Mygerardromance (talk) 18:49, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

The Ballet
Why did you delete my article about The Ballet? I specified their coverage in media and in OUT magazine. 68.197.64.232 (talk) 22:43, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It wasn't my impression they fulfilled any of the criteria in BAND, and the article included no references or citations of any media coverage (its not enough to say they had coverage, you must substantiate it with a reference). I have nevertheless restored it, to give you a chance to hopefully improve it. I'll take a look at the article again in a week or two. Cheers, henrik  • talk  07:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Question about edit on IKEA article
Hi! On the article about IKEA, you removed an edit that mentions IKEAFANS.com, citing 'Wikipedia doesn't usually link to fansites'. IKEA is somewhat unique in that it has a HUGE fanatical following around the world. I think that a section on this following and links to the sites, such as IKEAFANS.com, ikeahacker.blogspot.com, ohikea.com, etc. is very valid and appropriate in this case. 71.253.192.33 (talk) 15:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Many bands, sports clubs also have huge and fanatical followings. For some examples of their Wikipedia articles see (I'll just take a few random examples) Britney Spears, Madonna (entertainer), New York Yankees, Liverpool_F.C.. You'll see that none of them link to fan sites and that the external links are very few. Madonna for instance has one single link to her IMDB profile. It's not that Wikipedia discount the effort these fans put into their site, but it's just not the proper venue for fan sites to attract attention. henrik  • talk  16:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your response. Is it appropriate for these sites to start pages of their own?  And if so, can they link to the page for the object of their affections?  :D  Gardenofdarwin (talk) 04:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Apparent article stats tool glitch
History of the Philippines (1898-1946) (with a hyphen) is a redirect to History of the Philippines (1898–1946) (with a long dash). I thought to check the stats with http://stats.grok.se/, expecting to see the redirect page having fewer hits, representing the portion of the hits on the main article page which went through that redirect. I was surprised to see results (for 200808) showing 5020 hits on the redirect page and 2685 hits on the main page. I'm confused. -- Boracay Bill (talk) 03:22, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose it's not a glitch but results from the technical method of extracting those data from the webserver log. The request went to the redirect page - and that's what stats.grok.se counts - is that correct, Henrik?
 * @Henrik: Anyway, it would be nice to see the real number of lookups of an article even it goes through a redirect. Do you see a means to provide that type of data? Regards, --Drahkrub (talk) 18:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yep. It counts the number accesses people have made, and apparently the redirect title is more popular. I agree, it would be good to sum up all the alternative titles articles has. I'll see if I can implement that. henrik  • talk  23:44, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Lawyers' Council on Social Justice
Hi Henrik, Thanks for the comment about the name. How do we change the name and would it be better to wait until after the deletion review? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lawyerscouncil (talk • contribs) 00:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Always stats...
Hi Henrik, sorry if I bother you with a question someone probably has just asked you. I just wanted to know if you wonderful tool will be updated with sisterprojects stats too. I'm from the Italian wikisource and I'm struggling to find detailed stats about my project, they would be very useful. Thank you for your kindness. --Aubrey (talk) 10:57, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm just glad people find it useful :) The good news is that the stats for all wikimedia projects are already there: If you go to http://stats.grok.se/it.s/200808/Pagina_principale, you'll see the stats for the main page of the italian wikisource. The bad news is that the user interface isn't as friendly as it could be. For now, you have to manipulate the URL directly henrik  • talk  11:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much, I'm in debt :-) Have a nice day, --Aubrey (talk) 12:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for writing
Hello, I'm the guy that wrote the new section in the Sweden page. I've always had an account, but sometimes I forget to log in:) Swedish pirate (talk) 13:08, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Aha :) That explains it. Still, good work! henrik  • talk  13:20, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Total page views
Your Wikipedia article traffic statistics should show the total views of a page, for the whole entire time, rather than a selected month. Although...you should still leave the option for the month selection, however, please provide an option to show the total page views. -- IRP ☎ 23:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, that would be good. The reason that it wasn't done like that was because of efficiency issues. henrik  • talk  23:50, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Any way to provide the option, or just show it on the bottom of the statistics graph? -- IRP ☎ 23:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do. I was planning on doing new stats metrics (for example median views per day) when I got a years worth of data, which would of course also make it easy to show total views. henrik  • talk  23:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, that'll work. -- IRP ☎ 16:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Traffic Count
I was looking at this count and it lists hits for days the article did not exist. It has hits for every day this month, but the article has only existed for two day. From reading the other comments on this page, it sounds like people may have tried to go to the page even though it doesn't exist. Is that what's happening, are people typing "kevjumba" into the search box, and that triggers the server log? Thanks - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 17:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It's probably people following internal links, or directly typing the URL. The search box itself probably doesn't trigger any hits though. henrik  • talk  08:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations
Dear Henrik, a great service the wikipedia article traffic statistics is. I am dealing with a corporate wiki service we are develloping to trainning purposes. It would be useful knowing how many times a particular article was visited on a particular day. We´d like building a solution like this on our system. How did you do this? Coul you help us? sincerely, Nevinho (talk) 13:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


 * You don't say which wiki software you use. Mediawiki (which is what wikipedia uses) has an internal view counter, but it is disabled on Wikipedia for performance reasons. As long as you're not a top-10 website in the world, I think the internal view counters would work well for you. For more info, look at the mediawiki documentation. henrik  • talk  08:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Felicitaciones por la página sobre Traffic Count

 * Encuentro este recurso sumamente importante y atractivo, sobre todo porque sirve de guía sobre lo que debe mejorarse de acuerdo con las expectativas de los usuarios de la WP. Gracias. --Fev (talk) 21:56, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Gracias! henrik  • talk  08:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations
Congratulations for this wonderful tool, go ahead, this is great in all respects !!!--Djacnov (talk) 08:52, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks! henrik  • talk  08:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia page hit counter.
Good day Henrik

Thanks for your useful hit counter.

I notice that when I searched for the number of hits on EFNMR, I got a very different result than if I searched for Earth's field NMR, even though both searches lead to the same page - due to redirection. 'EFNMR' is redirected to 'Earth's field NMR'.

Having thought about it, I presume that the 'Earth's field NMR' hits include the 'EFNMR' hits, but that 'EFNMR' hits exclude the 'Earth's field NMR'hits.

If this is so, could you please add a note explaining it? GilesW (talk) 20:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * No, redirects are counted separately in all cases. The total views is the sum of the views on all redirects, which should perhaps be explained more clearly. henrik  • talk  08:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

WP:AN discussion
As a user who contributed to the discussion concerning, you're invited to comment at Administrators%27_noticeboard also. Thanks - Ncmvocalist (talk) 04:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. henrik  • talk  08:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

October traffic
What about october wikipedia traffic —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pitico (talk • contribs) 21:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It's up now. henrik  • talk  08:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Question about wikipedia data format
Hi. We are university students in Japan, researching how Wikipedia grows. We found your web site "Wikipedia article traffic statistics"(http://stats.grok.se/) and have a question to you.

The pageview data you use on the site is from "http://dammit.lt/wikistats/", right? We want to know the format of the Wikipedia pageview data.

We downloaded a data file "pagecounts-20080901-000000.gz" and checked it. The data file contains a line "ja %E6%B5%B7%E4%B8%8A%E9%81%8B%E8%B3%83%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7 5 82317", for example. We think "ja" means language code and "%E6%B5%B7%E4%B8%8A%E9%81%8B%E8%B3%83%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7" means article name. What do "5" and "82317" mean?

Sincerely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 133.27.172.88 (talk) 13:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * You are correct with the first two things. Then, the first number means 'page hits', the next (last) number means 'transferred bytes'. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 01:15, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

The tool thingy
I forgot what it's called, but that tool you made to show how many times your page has been visited is awesome!

Just one thing, does it count how many times I have visited my userpage? Because really, all those visits could just have been me :) ~ HJH Lady  Renegade  02:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

P.S - Please reply on my discussion page, and put the message at the top of my talky page. Thanks.

Page viewed before its existence ?
Hello ! I often use your views-counting tool. There is a problem with the page Jean Jacques : it was created on 12 october 2008, and, following the tool, already viewed on 7 october. Perhaps because there exists a page Jean-Jacques ? Marvoir (talk) 16:04, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * No. That just indicates that someone tried to go to the page before it existed, possibly you? It also had two hits in September. 4.233.143.244 (talk) 05:57, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Glitch record
http://stats.grok.se/en/200810/Abc-xyz-xyz As testing, I have attempted to search on main page with "Go" for no article "Abc-xyz-xyz" on Oct., 15, 2008. As you see, statistic returned single view on that day. so that it is clear that statistics includes search or search attempt for article regardless that article is exist or not.--Namazu-tron (talk) 10:30, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

page view statistics
Hi, I would like to know a bit more about page view statistics, for example, is it possible to find out what are the top ranking articles?Arilang1234 (talk) 13:14, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * click the top button at http://stats.grok.se/ 4.233.143.97 (talk) 05:43, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Curiousity Question
Hi there,

I've been looking into the page visits tool and it's very interesting to me, perhaps even help me in my thesis. Great tool! I've two technical questions, if you have the time:

1. How credible are the visits records, I see some zeros patches here and there ( I read the about).

2. I think I saw visits in a page, somewhere where the visits preceded the first edit. Is that a glitch?

'''3. An additional question - on what time zone the time of the pvisit is recorded? for example, the Hebrew Wiki page visits are on the time of the English servers?''' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.182.164.69 (talk) 18:50, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Y —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.106.173 (talk) 22:00, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 1. The visits are visits, but they also include bot visits, there is a list of anomalies somewhere.
 * 2. Searches for non-existent pages are dutifully recorded even though the page does not exist. If the page is later created the hits will tend to go up but the stats will include the data from before the page was created.
 * 3. I believe that all times are recorded as UTC on all servers. 4.233.143.244 (talk) 05:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Double Thanks! keep up the good work! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.106.173 (talk) 16:25, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Article traffic stats
It is not updated yet to include yesterday (10/21/08) for some reason, and It is not accurate, i found out, because it doesn't take redirects into account., Ex: Dimensia redirects to RCA Dimensia, but if i typed both into the counter, they would be different. To get an accurate reading, you'd have to add together all the things that redirect to the article. Daniel Christensen (talk) 18:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * For the first point see . --Melancholie (talk) 21:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

wondering about tracking page hits
Henrik, Someone from the information team sent me a link to http://stats.grok.se as a means of tracking hits. Can you tell me how reliable you think the data there is? Could you email me at steven.gangbar@sunlife.com?

Thanks a lot, Steven —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.94.61.100 (talk) 20:21, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It's answered on the FAQ page. henrik  • talk  21:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Miroj
I like the advice you gave me. It's really great. I need the MBENZNL page once more or I might put my last saved copy into the sandbox. I have a reason to think that Dutch Wikipedia will greatly appreciate it as I now have several more articles and magazine listings. I have a great belief that (one day) internet credibility will register as not being against the spirit of Wikipedia. A person can indeed contribute far more in virtual space than in real life as it removes the barriers of distance and time. Truly space warping stuff. Miroj (talk) 23:30, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

page hit count suggestion
As I've already told you, this is one of the greatest idea in Wikipedia. I just want to suggest you an improvement, I don t think it s very difficult to implement: Just under the day number, it would be interesting to add the initial of the day of the week, i.e m=monday, t=tuesday and so on. It would be a hint about when people mostly consult such or such an article or about biases concernening week-end connections and so son. Thanks and regards, --82.226.81.149 (talk) 07:07, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I tried to do that initially, I'll see if I can revive some of the old code. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Top Stats History
1) Thanks! 2) Is there history of previous top lists? Meaning http://stats.grok.se/en/top/ shows Most viewed articles in 200808 Can I get for 200807 200806 200805 etc? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.80.134.168 (talk) 10:59, 5 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Not currently. In my long term plan, I hope to be able to save different top lists. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note that there is a complementary tool dedicated to toplists that has older lists still available. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 07:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * And a much better tool at that too :) I'll redirect any further queries about toplists to you! henrik  • talk  08:07, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

AFC "Tool"
Is it ok if I make (or attempt to at least) a derivative version User:Henrik/js/afc-helper.js that is compatible with the current format of WP:AFC? Nan oha A's Yu ri    Talk, My master 22:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Absolutely! henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

stats.grok.se
Hi Henrik, i am using your statistics to get an overview how often the articles of our project are viewed. For that i am more interested in the year count then in the monthly statistics. By accident i found that your site is able to offer yearly statistics if the URL is shortened to the year. Currently i can see that the statistics for september are available, but they can not be seen in the statistics for the complete year (eg month vs year). Will this statistic be updated later on, or is it deprecated and not to be used? --87.78.157.38 (talk) 09:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * No, it's a hidden feature. :) I'll add january and july to those stats as well, but it might take a little while. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia article traffic statistics
This is a nice tool to have and I have it sitting quietly in my sidebar for when my curiosity about the popularity of an article is aroused... Do the stats show unique hits or is it a total number? Cheers. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 09:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Total number. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

vandalism dweeb
There's some dweeb who has made a couple of really stupid edits on some Batman-related articles. (220.239.33.244). He's getting on my nerves and I have a funny feeling he's gonna create more havoc, but I'm not entirely sure what to do - I'm a kind of new editor, and yeah. I thought telling an administrator would be the best thing to do. ~ HJH Lady  Renegade  11:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I hope someone has taken care of that now. My wiki time keeps getting interrupted by external events; first I was away for the most of the summer - now I'm moving to a new town and switching jobs. I need a wiki monastery :) henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Aritcle "EcoCute" and "Ecocute"
Your dedicating site Wikipedia article traffic statistics work well and responds with statistics for both article EcoCute and Ecocute. Then, Click Hyper text word Ecocute of statement "Ecocute has been viewed 423 times in 200810" was clicked, Wikipedia responded that no article for "Ecocute". (EcoCute was created on July 10, 2008.) So, I created new article "Ecocute" to redirect "EcoCute" on October 6, 2008. Please review statistics are responded correctly, but why click Ecocute as above did not redirect to EcoCute" before October 6. Thank you. --Namazu-tron (talk) 10:30, 13 October 2008 (UTC) (Minor changed. --Namazu-tron (talk) 15:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC))


 * Redirects are unfortunately counted separately. You'll need to add the statistics for EcoCute and Ecocute together to get the total number of hits. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Traffic statistics
Sir, can you add Malayalam Wikipedia to your article traffic statistics?--Abhishek Jacob
 * See stats.grok.se/ml/200810/... --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 01:08, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * All wikipedias (as well as the other projects) are collected, but there are some interface glitches for the ones not in the drop down menu. If you enter the URL yourself however, you'll see the data. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Article hits glitch
I got the following results from article hits:

Barack_Obama has been viewed 1793218 times in 200809. This article ranked 22 in traffic on en.wikipedia.org. Joe_Biden has been viewed 838647 times in 200809. This article ranked 13 in traffic on en.wikipedia.org.

Which seems counter-intuitive since one has more views than the other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.93.183.78 (talk) 01:24, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Let me answer this on behalf of Henrik: The rank position refers to the top 1000 list of August. Maybe change to "once ranked"? --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 01:38, 15 October 2008 (UTC


 * Yes, I should clarify it represents the previous month. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Stats for all links listed on a page
Tjabatjena! I have used your excellent Wikipedia article traffic statistics, but I would very much like to see month statistics for a list of articles in the same way as "Related changes". Do you have any tips of how that can be done? Hälsningar, --Kr-val (talk) 07:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * That kind of feature is already available there. Just request your page(s). Note that we are juggling with huge amounts of data, but maybe it's possible to use Henrik's JSON interface to produce "Related Page Hits" dynamically? --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 01:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * It would probably be possible, but since you can only request stats for one page at a time, it would be quite slow for anything with more than a handful of "related pages". Mr.Z-man 02:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll see if I can update the json interface to support more queries, but really: the main limitation is database speed, not the json query. As Melancholie says, the statistics data is pretty big. The database behind stats.grok.se currently has 3.5 billion rows, growing by tens of millions per day. Pretty soon I'll need to buy new harddrives :) henrik  • talk  21:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

XSS on stats.grok.se
Hi there, I've found a possible XSS issue on stats.grok.se

i.e. : http://stats.grok.se/en/200809/ Hi there

other than that I really like your idea/site. Cheers --Aff123a (talk) 21:28, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops. Obviously that should be escaped. I don't see how it could be used for nefarious purposes, given the simplicity of the site, but it should of course be fixed.  henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Slightly misleading ranking information
http://stats.grok.se/de/200810/J%C3%B6rg_Haider reads today:

Jörg Haider has been viewed 483829 times in 200810. This article ranked 3651 in traffic on de.wikipedia.org.

With half a million views this article is probably somewhere in the top ten in October. I guess the rank 3651 refers to August. This could be explicitly stated to avoid confusion. --Feldkurat Katz (talk) 19:38, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes. I'll fix the page to be more clear (and update the top rank to september).  henrik  • talk  21:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)


 * When doing an update to September, be aware that there was a major mishap on Sep 30th for enwiki, consider excluding that day for enwiki as the list would get inaccurate. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 07:19, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh. 2.4 million views for that page seems a bit improbable *grin* Thanks for letting me know! henrik  • talk  08:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Article counter - again
Just saw your fine article counter - nice work! Just wonder if some improvements would be possible as options in the counter: Hope this would be possible (both technically and to spend the time doing it) so a fine tool would become even better. Prillen (talk) 10:43, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Exclude bot hits.
 * Count hits by unique user (to see how meny users visited the article).
 * Exclude user (myself).


 * Hello! Unfortunately none of those options are technically feasible right now, they can't be done from the data dump Domas collects. Given the number of hits wikipedia gets, it would also be hard to do any kind of filtering on the server cluster without affecting performance as well. I agree that it would be useful though. henrik  • talk  21:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Page view collecting server failure
Hello Henrik, after contacting Domas, he found out that the disk space of the pagecounts collection server seems to had been filled up. So we lost data between ~13:00 UTC and ~23:00 UTC on October 21 (see report), rest should resync. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 23:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, it turned out to be even worse [also Oct 22]: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15177#c7 --Melancholie (talk) 23:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh well. There are already a few gaps earlier in the data. Unfortunately there's litte we can do about it (and in the long run, the loss of a few days of statistics isn't really going to do much damage). Thanks for letting me know. henrik  • talk  21:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Page View Zero?
Could you please let me know how to include the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropology_of_Freedom in the page view counting? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.251.242.178 (talk) 01:21, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It will be automatically included. All pages are. henrik  • talk  21:29, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

hi
can u tell me how to get page view statistics for subpages? --Just my 2 cents -- Hemanshu (talk) 17:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

You have to enter it like this user:Daniel Christensen/The War On Wikipedia. You have to include the username and don't forget the slash. Daniel Christensen (talk) 18:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Exactly :-) Thanks Daniel, I get a warm fussy feeling every time someone answers a question for me, better than I could do myself. *grin* henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Stats counter
The counter is not updating. By now (10/22/08) 3:08 pm it should have yesterdays (10/21/08) stats. 136.224.168.5 (talk) 19:09, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please read above, and even . ;-) --Melancholie (talk) 21:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks Melancholie :-) henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Copy of an artical
I was searching for information on my son who I have not had contact with in a very long time. I found an artical had been taken down and was interested in getting a copy of it.

The search was "Nicholas Reyland"

Thank you very much.

Mark Reyland Mark@Creative3d.biz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.60.73.194 (talk) 21:51, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll send you a copy. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Can someone please explain me why...
I get page view zero for the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropology_of_Freedom ? Is there any way to include it in the page view counting? Or is it another problem??? Thanks for your help!
 * Do you mean http://stats.grok.se/en/200810/Anthropology_of_Freedom (2008-10?) See also . --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 16:03, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * As Melancholie says, the data for a few days were lost. However, it will be included for the future (as all pages are), you don't need to do anything special to get the statistics counted. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Robot Blocking Embarassment
Thank you very much for your kind encouragement to contacat you, and all the good work it looks like you are doing!

I have recently contributed five new articles, which is about all I want to do now, and then maintain and update them from time to time. Of course some polish may be done during the next few days.

On Swedish Wikipedia:

1. Roger Jönsson

2. Steve Vigil

On English Wikipedia:

3. Birgit Ridderstedt

4. Jacob Truedson Demitz

5. Wild Side Story (still being built up)

Article 2 has been especially well received by a Swedish admin. who saved it from being quickly rejected.

Sadly, it seems that since yesterday a robot has been put in blocking the articles 4 and 5 and everything in them entirely from being crawled by Google. All this has disappeared from there over night, after it was seen by quite a few visitors yesterday.

This is especially embarrassing to me since Mr. Demitz has supplied us with our main reference sources and been very generous with his time and valuable information, all of which I have independently verified in his files and with others, in writing this and other articles about these subjects.

What if anything can be done about this? EmilEik (talk) 16:02, 24 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Hm, I'll take a look. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

External tools
How about external tools for Wiktionary? Could you make page view statistics and revision history statistics for Wiktionary? -- IRP ☎ 17:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Wiktionary data is in the stats.grok.se database,

article traffic statistics
Hi, I have seen your tool. I am curious if there is any possibility to find out who visited my User-Page. Is there any possibility? I have tried to put on some java script from public available webcounters but they got "escaped" out. Even links to some 1 pixel sized gif images got escaped out. Can you think of any possibility? --HAH (talk) 19:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * No, it's not possible for users to track visits to their userpage. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

PAge counters for other months?
Hi, is it possible to get page counts for other months than october and possibly for a wiki of another language?

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.106.173 (talk) 20:07, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Try the drop down menus at http://stats.grok.se/ (=> http://stats.grok.se/zh/200802/Main_Page) --Melancholie (talk) 21:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant the raw data files for these months and non english wiki... do they exist anywhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.106.173 (talk) 07:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Domas deletes the raw data files after a while, and I don't really keep the non-aggregated data anywhere but in the database. I can give you database dumps, but they'll be pretty large. henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Can you give me links to them? (if they're online). I need specific records for specific days. If you can't I can mail you for specific files (it's only a few). This will be very helpful for my thesis, if it's not too much trouble. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.106.173 (talk) 21:12, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The files are tens of gb large, aggregates for an entire month. If its only specific records for specific days, you can use the API: prepend json to the url (like so ), and you'll get the output in an easily parsable format. It depends a bit on what you want to do, but for anything less than a million requests in total or so, it might be the easiest way. henrik  • talk  10:26, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Great - is there a way to access directly hours counts within a day? (whats the format for a json request? if there's one)


 * No, only the aggregate stats for each day are kept by me. The format to make the json request is as above http://stats.grok.se/json/en/200808/Main_Page. Just prepend json to the URL. henrik  • talk  20:02, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again - it's a great thing you're doing! (and if there's a way to get hour by hour resolution of the counts, I'll be happy to hear about it).

Thank you for page stats
Very useful & informative EJohn59 (talk) 09:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)EJohn59


 * Thanks!  henrik  • talk  21:56, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Again another thanks, extremely useful tool which has been passed around a lot at my work showing the importance of Wikipedia as a tool used by the general public to quickly access information. See here. Good work well done and hope it doesn't just stay a Beta service. All the best Khu  kri  15:52, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow, that is pretty impressive. At least for me, our WP article outranks even the official cern.ch on google, and is probably the first and only stop for LHC info for an awful lot of people. Glad to see my humble service making the rounds at Cern as well. :) henrik  • talk  15:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Question about my pic
Hello Henrik First time I talk with you I guess. well, my question is if u can help me to move a picture I uploaded to my User page (but smaller) I try to delete it but was impossible Now I have not idea how can I transfer it to my page

If the pic is mine (a pic of me) why I can not find the commands to delete it?

Here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Pedro_2.jpeg

I will appreciate your help

ur Wiki friend

IoWiki2007


 * What you do is you put the text [[Image:Pedro_2.jpeg|250px]] on your user page, and it will show up like this: [[Image:Pedro_2.jpeg|250px]] For more info see, Help:Images. And you can of course change the size 250px to something else. :) henrik  • talk  21:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

My friend Henrik: Thanks so much for your awesome help. I did it. If you want you can delete the picture now, I solved the problem. If you like boxing I have some articles there that you may like. Have a nice day Io_Wiki2007 (talk) 21:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, that image needs to stay :) If Image:Pedro_2.jpeg is deleted, the link showing it on your userpage will stop working, and that's not quite what we'd want *grin*. I've restored the copyright info on that page as well. Cheers, henrik  • talk  21:57, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks you! Have a wonderful Halloween! =)  Io_Wiki2007 (talk) 21:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry
I appreciate your comments. I, alas, overreacted. I had already told him several times that I had no desire to pursue the matter and he kept at me. So I told a friend. It kinda felt like being stalked. I appreciate that the guy must be pretty young and from a culture that values machismo and always being right, so it was wrong for me to taunt him that way. I already told him several times to go ahead and keep the page as his. I have been on here since 2002 and this is the first time I have encountered someone like him, and the attitude of possessing an article was alien to my experience here, so I vented / acted out. Sorry.  S a u d a d e 7  21:22, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Occasionally, the best thing two editors can do is to just stay away from each other. Sometimes their respective personalities aren't just compatible, though no fault of either. But I'm not sure this is the case here though. If you'd be willing to let bygones be bygones, I'm sure the conflict can still be defused successfully. In my experience, Peter Isotalo can come across as pretty abrasive and has little tolerance for long argumentation, but he will generally yield if you can show high quality sources that prove him wrong. henrik  • talk  21:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * PS. Please try to refrain from commenting on other editors age or culture. It's just not very helpful :)


 * I made a very serious effort of discussing the issue from the start and I have gotten almost nothing but scorn and insults in return. I have no problem in taking criticism for my conclusions, but I don't see that any serious attempt has been made. I've discussed and quoted my own sources at some length, and I was expecting that Saudade would do the same. Instead I get accused of being a young hothead by someone who has only barely discussed the disputed matter. That's just plain mean.
 * Peter Isotalo 15:51, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

stats.grok.se and redirects
Hi. Great work on your stats website that I've just discovered. But I noticed that redirects are counted independently from the main article page count, so the stats don't actually show the total views of a page, just the views using that name.

So I wonder if "Page_X has been viewed NNNN times in 200810" given on the page would be better stated as "Page_X has been viewed NNNN times in 200810 using that name". It would be great if there was a facility that would sum all the redirects and main name pages, but perhaps for a post-beta version.

e.g. and  where the redirect has far more views than the main name. Rwendland (talk) 23:02, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Small Error in traffic Stats noticed
Hi Henrik,

I love the stats feature and I noticed a small descrepancy that might be useful. Searching directly for the Wikipedia article traffic statistics for Leonardo da Vinci in Oct.2008 shows the article was viewed 226,712 times. Checking with the top 1000 for Oct. 2008 lists the da Vinci article (#523 on list) as having been viewed 203,308 times. A fairly small differential but it might be useful to note... ExplorerMMVIII (talk) 03:04, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops. I meant the discrepancy was noted for Aug. 2008.  I thought the discrepancy in this one example might also be occuring for other articles. ExplorerMMVIII (talk) 03:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

page view stats
hello henrik,

just a note to say how much i appreciate the page view stats that are currently available on wikipedia. i noticed that it is a beta service that may not be around forever, but i for one, would like to see it around forever.

thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.231.25.128 (talk) 15:51, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Inquiry about special article traffic stats
I'm wondering if it might be possible to create one-off hour-by-hour stats of the number of hits our two main page articles receive in the 36 hours after they first went onto the main page? That should take us all the way through the US election day to the final result. I suspect during the day they will have a phenomenal number of hits, but at the same time if it is any trouble to draft the script (write the program? extract the data?) I would not want to put you to any extra work. Best, Risker (talk) 07:42, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Sure, I can do that! henrik  • talk  07:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Fantastic! I've mentioned it to SandyGeorgia, because this experiment will be the subject of the next FA-related Signpost article. Any chance you could include the hits for all the redirect pages? Some of them had enormous hits too. Obama's redirects and McCain's redirects. I think the Obama article must have been pretty close to a million hits, with the redirects included. In the hour following his acceptance speech, there were a quarter of a million hits. Mindboggling. Thanks for your help.  Risker (talk) 07:13, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I've made a small graph for Barack Obama now, at Image:BarackObamaHits.png. I'll follow up with McCain later. henrik  • talk  15:25, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Note that this already exists, see Wikipedia/Template:Popular pages! Template:Popular_articles?action=history (like initial wikinews:Template:Popular_articles). See also Special:Statistics... --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 15:01, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Melancholie, that gives us ongoing data for the day. It would be a nice touch to add a graph of the results to the talk pages of the articles (or a subpage for each) once the day is over, just as a record of how one event can affect the encyclopedia. As I write, the Barack Obama page is already over 500 hits/minute. Risker (talk) 15:42, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Template history starts with September 5 :-) Another major event logged has been 2008 South Ossetia war, by the way. --- Best regards, Melancholie (talk) 15:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It peaked at about 80 views a second for an hour, which is pretty impressive :) henrik  • talk  15:40, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Here are the two articles compared: henrik  • talk  15:38, 5 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for pitching in, Henrik. In terms of designing images for WP:FCDW/ElectionTFA, keep in mind that the Signpost banner down the side really limits us as to image placement.  When you have something final, pls post it to the talk page there.  (What is the x-axis in the graph above?)  Thanks again !  Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 17:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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 * Grrr! henrik  • talk  21:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Simple question about stats tool
Hi Henrik. I've seen it said somewhere that your stats exclude edits: is that right? For example, if I made 10 edits to article XXX last month, will my visits be excluded in some way? --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 12:39, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Nope, they'll be counted. Or rather, once you click save and are returned to the article, that counts as a view too. henrik  • talk  21:05, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clearing that up. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 10:14, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia traffic
Dear Henrik,

I was having a look at the page which gives how many times a certain Wiki page has been visited in a month, and I was wondering whether you could exclude the number of times a certain user has visited that page. For instance, although I edit some articles very frequently (and so I would view that article the most in a given month), I would like to know how many times other people (except for me) have viewed that page. Is there a way?

Thanks for your help.

Topology Expert (talk) 12:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


 * No, unfortunately that would be prohibitively expensive when it comes to performance. henrik  • talk  21:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello Henrik
Just to wish you a wonderful weekend Io_Wiki2007 (talk) 20:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Why, thank you! henrik  • talk  21:01, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Follow-up to old ANI thread
My final (rather long) post here (now archived) didn't get any response there, so as I said there I am following up on people's talk pages to try and clarify what will happen in future cases, and then I'm moving on. Are you happy to agree that speedy deletes are not needed for suspected hoax articles, and that they should be allowed to run the full length of time at an AfD debate? Carcharoth (talk) 11:30, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm willing to acknowledge that my rogue deletion may not have been the best course of action possible. :) I do however still think that we should be firmer on (suspected) hoaxes, but there are other ways of accomplishing that. henrik  • talk  21:01, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Using stats.grok.se to study a page
Hello Henrik,

I have been using stats.grok.se to collect some data and start analysing a page from fr.wikipedia.org -- it was easy to extract data and paste it into spreadsheets to build graphs of views over 40 weeks, and compute a few other indicators. Some graphs are available here, with notes and discussion in French: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discuter:Michel_Maffesoli#.C3.89tude_de_la_page -- have a look!

Cheers,

---- phnk (talk) 19:02, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Interesting! Do you know about the json api, which makes it easier to make automated queries? henrik  • talk  21:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)