User talk:Instinct/Archive 23

List
Would you like to help me on a brand new list, List of Cleveland Indians managers? I started it, but it needs major cleanup. I found out there's about 35 managers in the history. So, it should take a little longer. My main goal is to eventually get it to FL. If it is improved to the level of candidate, you could co-nominate with me. So, what do you say?--LAA Fan 17:16, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Revert
In the future, please wait at least 60 seconds after an action before resorting to placing something on the users talk page about it. By the time your comment was added, I had already explained myself on the other user's talk page. Thank you. tj9991 (talk) 14:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

List of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim managers
Hey MFC, just a quick word to warn you that in a couple of days I'll be archiving List of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim managers's FLC as it's got no support right now. Go get 'em! The Rambling Man (talk) 16:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, canvassing is wrong, however, asking a reviewer to go back and check you've dealt with all their issues isn't wrong. We can't promote lists with zero support.  Only a few months ago you needed four so right now it's better than it was, you just need to "work your public" I guess.  Be keen and show willing to help out, address the reviewers personally.  As you're a regular contributor at FLC you'll need to get used to this unless you want your lists to be archived without success.  Don't forget community consensus is 100% vital here.  The Rambling Man (talk) 16:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

FLC
Ha, I fixed that. Thanks. S R X   18:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

FLC
You've probably seen it already, but the List of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim's FL nom. is going well. I have addressed the rest of the concerns, and have sent notices to The Rambling Man and Gary King asking them to review the page as their concerns have been addressed. --LAA Fan 20:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I forgot to answer your question. To find the playoff records, I go to the season records for the team on Wikipedia. There, I find what the team did in the playoffs, if any. I then look at what year that playoff series was recorded. For example, let's say Mike Scioscia managed a team to the playoffs, but lost the series 1-4. His playoff record would be 1-4. If he managed them to the playoffs another year, just add on to the record. Hope this helps.--LAA Fan 22:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Newsletter
Alright, I'll check around! Thanks!  Black ngold29  01:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:RFBOT
Your recent bot approvals request has been approved. Please see the request page for details. Please make sure that each edit is manually checked. RichardΩ612  Ɣ ɸ 19:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Bot problem
Hi, just noticed a problem with your bot replacing with is failing to remove the   code that may surround the references tag as per this edit. The bot should also take the number of columns from the code and pass it to the reflist template. Keith D (talk) 20:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

All Star Game tonight
Tonight at 7:00 PM ET at Yankee Stadium. Joe Buck was on Conan last night and told Conan that he might say "BUDDY BOY" like James Cagney. So PAY EXTRA ATTENTION!!!! HP Jo  ker  Leave me a message 23:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I'll post in your editors review m8

WikiProject Baseball Newsletter
-- jj137  (  talk )  03:15, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of Boston Bruins head coaches
So do you want to co-nominate with me? Annoyomous 24  00:36, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help
Are those tags part of the automated uploading options, or do we just have to look them up whenever we need them? If they're not part of the process, why aren't they, as that would seem to make uploader's lives a bit easier? Thanks again for your help and advice. S. Dean Jameson 19:45, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:Lily Lilium 'Citronella' Flower 2578px.jpg
Hi! This image is a featured picture, but I think the sky needs cleaned up - it's creating really odd artefacting at thumbnail sizes. A little basic cleanup would move this from good, but flawed, to fantastic =) Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday (talk) 01:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: List of Linkin Park awards
Okay sounds good. Nom it when it's ready. Gary King ( talk ) 02:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Still needs a copyedit and the references need to be formatted. Gary King</b> ( talk ) 03:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Status of Newsletterbot?
Hi `cookie,

What's the status of Newsletterbot? One of the users on WP:BARD tried to have it deliver a newsletter to the project's members, but it doesn't look like Newsletterbot has even put it on its queue yet, much less delivered it. Is the bot running? Currently borked? Checking its edit logs suggests it hasn't been active much lately. --Xover (talk) 18:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I'm beginning to think I'm not grokking the usage instructions.
 * To request a newsletter delivery, does one create a sub page like User:Newsletterbot/Wikipedia:Wikiproject Shakespeare; or does one edit User:Newsletterbot/newsletters to add a new section ala those already there? --Xover (talk) 18:18, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Check
You have e-mail. Red Thunder  16:22, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Bot question
Are you sure your bot should be making changes like this one (only the first change in that) -- this is just an example, but the article is about the Reds' 1919 season, so wouldn't it be appropriate to bold the "1919 season" part as well (and I'm pretty sure the apostrophe should stay after the word "Reds" too). Then again, I'm not sure, just asking what your opinion on this is. <font color="#008040">jj137 <font color="#008040">(  talk <font color="#008040">)  20:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoops, no, I think I meant after that diff you gave me. (I think I was looking at the current version.) But, same question, I guess.  <font color="#008040">jj137  <font color="#008040">(  talk <font color="#008040">)  12:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, sorry for the confusion. Just trying to clarify things :)  <font color="#008040">jj137  <font color="#008040">(  talk <font color="#008040">)  04:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, find and replace can be tricky. What I just wasn't sure about was if the "1919 season" part should be bolded instead of the "Cincinnati Reds".  <font color="#008040">jj137  <font color="#008040">(  talk <font color="#008040">)  21:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * See User:jj137/example for what I'm trying to explain.  <font color="#008040">jj137  <font color="#008040">(  talk <font color="#008040">)  23:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think there was a revision exactly like the second one, I'm just saying that's what I think it should look like.  <font color="#008040">jj137  <font color="#008040">(  talk <font color="#008040">)  16:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not entirely sure - I would say either the entire thing ("Cincinnati Reds' 1919 season") or just the 1919 season part - the article is about the Reds' 1919 season, not the Reds itself. I'm just not sure, I think it's kind of tricky...  <font color="#008040">jj137  <font color="#008040">(  talk <font color="#008040">)  17:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, you're right. Oh well, it really isn't that big of a deal, I'll leave it as is for now and if anyone asks about it in the future, well, I guess we can bring it back up then.  <font color="#008040">jj137  <font color="#008040">(  talk <font color="#008040">)  03:43, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Newsletterbot
Is newsletter bot no longer working, or were you just too busy to perform that action? Either way, thanks for letting me know; I'm happy to have my bot make deliveries when you can't. - Diligent  Terrier  (and friends) 20:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Logo

 * Hey, remember me? I aksed for a logo before i got blocked.  Any chance of that still happening?  Like my sig, but in the same font syle as yours, and with "Go sox!" Thanks,  Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  15:37, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Typo's
Just have a question about searching for typo's. Is there any way I could search Wikipedia for certain common misspellings? I'm not really sure if there's any program out there that could help. Thanks in advance! DeluxNate (talk) 14:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC) U-T-C

Watchlist
I get the feeling you're watching out for those lists! Cool. Do me a favour and review/support/oppose the other current lists which interest you? I'd appreciate it. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA
<div class="boilerplate metadata" id="rfa" style="margin: 0 5%; padding: 0 7px 7px 7px; background: #FFFAEF; border: 1px solid #999999; text-align: left; font-size:95%;"> Al tally would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Al tally to accept or decline the nomination. A page for your nomination at Requests for adminship/  2. If you accept the nomination, you must state and sign your acceptance. You may also choose to make a statement and/or answer the optional questions to supplement the information your nominator has given. Once you are satisfied with the page, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.

And the inevitable pile ons begin. Don't you just love being under the microscope? <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 04:25, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

a question
Hello, Milk's Favorite Cookie. I'm Soccer5525 and I need some of your help. At the top of this page, it says your user name with it's reflection and a picutre of an Oreo coookie. I would like to add something like that to my page, except with my user signature and an image of a soccerball. Is there a way you could help me? Thanks. --<font face="Jokerman" color="blue">Soccer <font color="#FF69B4">5525 ( Tk  • <font color="#FC0FC0">Ctrb ) 21:10, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi MFC,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture Image:Bnf 20070218.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on July 26, 2008. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2008-07-26.  howcheng  {chat} 00:22, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA
Best of luck for your RFA -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 07:22, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I second the above. Shapiros10  <sup style="color:chocolate;">contact me <sub style="color:#3D2B1F;">My work  12:47, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

your feeling about the removal of date-autoformatting
Hi Milk, I see autoformatting in a co-nomination of an FLC of yours. Can you let me know whether you object to the running of my script through it? Here's my usual paste-in.

Dear contributors

MOSNUM no longer encourages date autoformatting, having evolved over the past year or so from the mandatory to the optional after much discussion there and elsewhere of the disadvantages of the system. Related to this, MOSNUM prescribes rules for the raw formatting, irrespective of whether a date is autoformatted or not). MOSLINK and CONTEXT are consistent with this.

There are at least six disadvantages in using date-autoformatting, which I've capped here:

Removal has generally been met with positive responses by editors. If anyone objects to my proposal to free the dates of autoformatting in the main text in a day or two on a trial basis, please say so below. The original input formatting would be seen by all WPians, not just the huge number of visitors; it would be plain, unobtrusive text, which would give greater prominence to the high-value links.

Critically, since I’m an FLC reviewer, I want to state in unequivocal terms that whether or not contributors object to this proposal will have absolutely no bearing on my review or declaration at FAC. I’m proposing the action because FAC is an influential process, not because nominators might feel under obligation—they shouldn’t. Tony  (talk)  15:58, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

RfA, question 12
Hi MFC, just wanted to drop you a line regarding Sandstein's question. I left him a note saying that I'm not at all happy with the accusatory tone of his question, and that he should consider changing or striking it. However, that being said, your DYK list could be seen as misleading. I did a little digging in Category:Wikipedia Did you know, and came across UpdatedDYKNom; perhaps you could update your DYK page to a more accurate description? Best of luck to you. Glass  Cobra  03:47, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Major League Baseball Rookie of the Year Award
Hi MFC, this FLC is coming to an end but you have said you'd like some more time to do a little bit more work on it. Can you let me know what you think? Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Question regarding your RFA
I'm honestly having a really hard time deciding what to do in this case. I think, in some ways, you've been handed a raw deal, and I'm a supporter of yours. But the oppose brought up by anetode and seconded by WJBscribe are very disturbing to me, and I'm pretty easy-going. It is quite obvious that you didn't take that picture (as an admin, I can still see it). Are you going to go on the record here and continue to claim, as you did in Anetode's link from February, that you created it? If you can show me either proof that you created it (the three "images" that you said you created this image from would be proof), or you can show me where in your diffs you either apologied or atoned for your "misunderstanding" with Anetode, I will remain in support. I realize you're having a stressful week, sorry to pile on here. I still think you are a very good editor, I've always been impressed with your contribs. <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper  <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76  15:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Pedro closed it before I could, and my computer has been "shutting itself down" all day. I came back online to see it closed.  I'm sorry if it was stressful, I hope you can find some positives from it.  Some of the opposers were overly harsh, but for the most part, they have very legitimate concerns.  I want to direct you to what I think is perhaps the best worded comment on your RfA, that of Gwynand in the Neutral section.  His post has profound wisdom in it, and I hope you are not too disheartened by your RfA.  Please let me know if you need any assistance with anything or if you have questions along the way of learning about teh parts of Wikipedia (DYK/GA/FA/FLC and copyvio) that have apparently caused confusion for you.  Again, sorry it went how it did, but I agree, unfortunately, that the community got it right at this time. <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper   <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76  20:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

(crossposted from my talk to be sure you see this) Milk, Pedro and Shereth [on my talk] are very correct here. You need to stop. That link proves that that photo existed before you were even a Wikipedian. Stop lying, stop trying to rationalize and cover your tracks. Own up. I also strongly strongly strongly suggest you go back through your other image uploads, and write out a list of other images with questionable attributes. Two were found during your RfA. I'm going to be a bit mean here and surmise that there are probably more. Type one of two things here on my talk. 1) there are no other copyright problems with my uploads, or 2) here is the list of my other questionable uploads. You need to understand how serious a problem this is, so very very far beyond stupid DYK stuff. Those are copyrighted, Milk. Do you understand what that means and what can happen to Wikimedia if not curbed? If you type sentence #1, that you have no other image problems, and it is found out later that there are other egregious image problems, I will have no other recourse than to block you to prevent you from uploading what you do not understand. Please understand the seriousness of this issue. I will crosspost this at your talkpage. <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper  <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76  20:58, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Your userpage
Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I really like your userpage; in fact, I kind of appropriated a little bit of your formatting for your list of major contributions. Hope you don't mind, I just really like the little icon pictures that denote article class. Have a good one! KV5 •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  17:31, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Copyright problems
Hello. Concerning your contribution, Image:Bill parcells.png, please note that Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites or printed material, without the permission of the author(s). As a copyright violation, Image:Bill parcells.png appears to qualify for deletion under the speedy deletion criteria. Image:Bill parcells.png has been tagged for deletion, and may have been deleted by the time you see this message.

If you believe that the article or image is not a copyright violation, or if you have permission from the copyright holder to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) then you should do one of the following:


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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. Thank you. Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Major League Baseball Rookie of the Year Award
It appears that there may be some missing entries on this list - maclean has objected to its promotion based in its incompleteness. Can you sort it out quickly, or should I archive the nomination, allowing you to work on it offline and renominate in the near future? Cheers! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:05, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiCup
<font color=#006600>weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 10:36, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello
I have'nt much to say, but I just wante to tell you I absolutely LOVE your user and talk pages! They are super, and I was wondering if you could show me a little about how to fix up my page to look sort of like that. Cheers, IM.--

Your RfA
Sorry about the result. Bad luck really. I would say "try again in a few months!" but look where that got you... oh well, hopefully see you back at RfA, but not for a long time yet. Happy editing, my chocolate covered friend. <font color=#33cccc>weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 20:39, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry about this as well. I think many of the reasons that people gave for opposing were, at best, facile. Tim Vickers (talk) 20:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * When it comes to copyright violations, I consider that a big issue.  Qb  | your 2 cents  21:00, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * True, but I was talking about the "not myspace" and "seems to want to do the job so we shouldn't let him" opposes. Tim Vickers (talk) 21:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

MFC, I'm sorry for the rude awakening. Integrity is essential when making difficult decisions, I hope that you understand why this instance had to be brought up and I hope you will work on your approach to dealing with difficult situations and owning up to mistakes. Regards, ˉˉanetode╦╩ 21:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry about the RfA. You are truly a great user. Don't let facile reasons like "clearly violates WP:NOTMYSPACE" hurt you. Just keep improving the wiki by doing what you are doing. Erik the Red  2 ( AVE · CAESAR ) 21:44, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There were many non-"facile" reasons for opposing. MFC didn't fail at RfA because of being Myspacey. S. Dean Jameson 21:59, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I would love an explanation on the Aston Martin image, with the photographer now identified and the source now clearly identified as Auto Express. Why do you persist in maintaining that the image is yours ? You do realise that is theft, and making false claims of ownership of an image is something that gets people blocked from Wikipedia, not promoted to an administrator. What's your reasoning behind stealing the image ? Nick (talk) 22:16, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Erm, it would seem that I missed a lot in my one-day pseudo-break. What exactly happened in the RfA? Nousernamesleft (talk) 00:07, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * See the thread at User talk:Keeper76 for more details on the downward motion of the RfA, or the more pertinent concerns other editors had. <font color="#660000">Wisdom89  ( <font color="#17001E">T |undefined /  <font color="#17001E">C ) 00:52, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * See also a more pertinent thread at User talk:Keeper76. I'm honestly not sure how the discussion ended up on my talkpage, other than that I (used to be) a strong suppert of MFC's bid for adminship. Cheers, <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper   <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76  01:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

My condolences to you, MFC. As someone who's also been putting up with abuse, I can feel your pain. Maybe in another 6 months you can try again.-- Bedford <sup style="color:pink;">Pray  02:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Although I didn't vote or participate (I didn't have the time to review everything, and I feel that it is important to do so if you don't know the user, which is why I seldom do) I followed your RfA with interest and not a little amount of sympathy, MFC. It strikes me that you have been turned around by the expectations of reviewers; more content, to much vandalism work in earlier RfAs and then punished for following that advice this time around. I am certainly not the only editor to note that (or sentiments like it). No doubt you'll wonder where to go from there, and there will no doubt be a lot of advice thrown at you, much of which will be contradictory and confusing. As such I apologise in advance for throwing out possibly most confusing and contradictory piece of advice of them all.


 * People are going to tell you do more of this and less of that and wait for so long and have another go. I say ignore them. I strongly suggest that you instead spend the next six months doing whatever the hell you want. You switched from doing vandal reversions to working content because of people's expectations, now you're probably going to be told to switch to something else. Because of of other people and what they expect. But you are a volunteer, you are here because you want to be, because you enjoy it and because you like the project. Let your editing reflect that. By all means try things out, see where your talents (and you do have them) are, but do what you enjoy doing. Me, I pretty much only do what I like. I like birds, and so that is what I stick too. I used to do AfD (back when it was called VfD, which is dating me) but after a while I didn't like it anymore after a while and I pretty much stopped. Sometimes I'll work lots in parrots, then I'll get bored and work on pigeons. Doing stuff I don't want to do is what I do at work, and I'm not going to give it my best when I'm doing my hobby. Some of the comments about you leaving things half finished suggest you're working in areas you don't actually care about, and that is not doing you any good.


 * I strongly feel you would benefit from not thinking about the requirements of adminship for six months, that having no goals beyond improving Wikipedia and having fun will help you develop better than any amount of coaching. Six months of experiencing the fun of being here. When you are doing what you love, it shows. Then, if you want, have a discussion with a more experienced editor. Work out what your strengths are, and what you enjoy doing the most. From there you can evaluate whether what you enjoy doing, what you want to be doing, would be aided by the admin tools. Perhaps you will, and if you do you can then see what weakness you still have and work on addressing them then. Maybe you'll find that what you enjoy doing doesn't require the tools. What I mostly do doesn't. Even if you don't need them, perhaps you will be nominated anyway. I was, because there are plenty of editors who don't like the idea that admins have to be all things to all men. I agree with them. But again, I stress, worry about that then.


 * Anyway, that was somewhat long-winded and possibly rubbish. I guess I'm worried seeing an editor with potential not having fun when they should be in pursuit of something that really isn't that big of a deal. Feel free to take my other advice and ignore my advice too. On a closing note, I do suggest that you follow Keeper's advice and review your image uploads, it was an unfortunate mistake made worse by not owning up. All the best for the future. Sabine's Sunbird  talk  07:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

You received a lot of criticism in that RfA, not all of it I personally think was fair. The best advice I can give is not to loose faith in yourself, resolve the copyright issue, and contribute in the ways you want too, as your services are clearly of great value to Wikipedia. Camaron | Chris (talk) 10:03, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I see. Reading the threads on Keeper's talk page, it looked to me as if the RfA failed due to the DYK issue (which I'd say was fairly minor) and the imaging one (which was most definitely not minor), not the opposes too much article work (an idea which I find utterly ludicrous - I don't care if the candidate uses the tools once in a million years). I was one of those asking for more article work in the previous RfA; I supported this one in response to MFC's excellent featured list work - would people please quit bashing those people like me over false allegations that too much article work failed the RfA? Nousernamesleft (talk) 17:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd certainly support if you are nominated again, keep up the good work. –BuickCenturyDriver 03:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I (obviously) could support as well, but only if he owns up to his dishonesty in the image thing, and spends a LONG time rebuilding trust. S. Dean Jameson 03:53, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Milk's Favorite Bot II
Can you go back and clean up all those mistakes it made? – xeno  ( talk ) 20:47, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Since I'm not sure what your status is, I raised this issue at the bot owner's noticeboard. I'm considering simply mass reverting all it's edits. – xeno  ( talk ) 22:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I have blocked your bot as it seems that you're not correspondingly timely to concerns. I'll unblock it when the issues are fixed. Fixing Xeno's and other's concerns can be reverting every edit, or manually sorting the good edits from the bad, which may take time.  Maxim (talk)  22:47, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've reverted all the edits. I started out trying to sort the good from the bad, but then realized the bot could re-do the good much faster than it would take me to find the bad. Plus I didn't want to attach my account to all kinds of different languages. –  xeno  ( talk ) 23:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just an update: I've gone through and restored the good versions for everything. However, the bot still needs fixing before it can run again, and I'd hate to sort through everything again. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Basketball!
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Userpage layout
Hi! Are you aware that the layout you have chosen for your talk pages makes the site mostly unusable should one use the modern skin? It so happens that I enjoy this clean and otherwise usable style and it's gained quite a popularity. Unfortunately, the floating image tricks completely obscure the action buttons (not to mention that it looks plain ugly) - you don't even have a link for posting a new message. You really gave me a hard time navigating through your archives to fix them. Please be more considerate of other users. Thanks, Миша 13 18:21, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Quick request
I noticed that one of your bots converts year in baseball links to templated versions. Could you please have the bot give New York Yankees seasons a run-through? I'm starting to build this up in hopes of bringing it to FLC in the future. Oh, and sorry about tonight and the next two days. :-)  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 02:47, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

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MLB ROTY FLC
Hi MFC. Hope you're ok, you haven't been around for a while. Because of this, and because of a few outstanding comments on the FLC, I've archived it until such a time you're able to address the outstanding concerns and renominate it. Feel free to get in touch with me if you'd like to talk this over more. All the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 09:27, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi MFC,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture Image:Bucephala-albeola-010.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on August 3, 2008. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2008-08-03.  howcheng  {chat} 00:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Long time, no see...
Hi MFC,

Here's an update of what we've been up to on the WikiProject Lists of basic topics...

We've created a page for every country of the world! They're not complete, and most of them aren't even in the main namespace yet, but...

A team of editors has been working on them, and the pages have come a long way.

We're about to run a competition, called "Around the World", in which participants will compete in the completion of specific data items across all of these country lists. For example, one task would be adding the population figure on each page.

The awards images are almost done, and the pages themselves need a couple sections completed before they can be moved to the article namespace and the competition can begin.

We could sure use your help getting these pages ready...

Tracking down the administrative divisions types for each country
The first task is on the "Administrative divisions of" sections.

In each of these sections, there's an initial hierarchical list of the division types in that country, followed by subheadings for each of the types. Unfortunately, the types listed are those from the template I used to create these pages, and they aren't accurate for many countries.

The defaults that I used were:


 * Provinces of x
 * Districts of x
 * Municipalities of x

(Where "x" is the name of each country).

For each country, change the links to the names of the administrative divisions for that country, adding more links if there are more than 3 division types. Those that are subdivisions of another type are indented under the parent type. In most cases, you would leave municipalities in place, because that's a generic name for "city". We'll blue-link those later. (Blue-linking is creating a redirect so that a link turns blue - that way, the link remains standardized on all the pages in the set).

Also change the subheadings in the same section to match the initial list, including the "main article" links presented just below each subheading.

To find out what the administrative divisions are for a country so you can add them, try looking on the government of x or politics of x pages for that country, and on the country's main article as well.

Adding the administrative divisions to their respective subsections
For each country, we need to find the list of administrative division for each type, and add them under that type's subheading.

For example, copy and paste the provinces listed at Provinces of Angola under the "Provinces of Angola" subheading on that country's list page.

See the countries listed at Lists of basic topics for examples of how this has been done for those. If there's a map showing the administrative divisions, grab it too.

Generally do not add towns and cities to the municipalities section, as there are usually way too many of them (and will unnecessarily bloat the page). Instead, provide links to the various pages (Cities of x, [Towns of x, Villages of x, etc.

Completing the "Government of x" section
This section also has temporary data, and needs to be corrected/completed.

The titles of the head of state and head of government of each country need to be corrected, and the specific office holders added.

The branches of government subheadings need to be corrected/filled in.

Etc.

The above tasks are fun, because it's interesting to see how other countries operate. I've completed about 25 of the country pages so far, and I've been intrigued and even amazed at some of the approaches different countries follow. The U.S. is definitely behind in many respects.

Please help out as much as you can, and help us get Around the World started!

Sincerely,

 Th e Tr ans hu man ist   17:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

TSQUAD collaboration
Hey, I noticed that you worked on List of films receiving six or more Academy Awards for the FLC contest, and wondered whether you would want to collaborate on it for WP:TSQUAD. See the discussion here. Cheers, <font face="Verdana"> sephiroth bcr ( converse ) 01:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There really is no other model, which is one of the reasons for the collaboration in order to determine a format. I've recently been working on Academy Awards-related lists, and none of them would have a similar format to this list. <font face="Verdana"> sephiroth bcr ( converse ) 01:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The lead does need expanding, and I'd like to revamp the table. What's bugged me is how to set it up. The relevant fields would probably be: # Awards, # Nominations, Film title used in nomination, Year, Studio, and maybe director, but I'm unsure in what order (as the first column determines the sortability of the list, so probably Awards). That and since the general source for the list is this, I'd prefer to move it to all films with five awards or more. That's the stuff at the top of my head right now. <font face="Verdana"> sephiroth bcr ( converse ) 01:59, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
This IP computer/account has never edited Wikipedia. How could this be? 116.240.191.42 (talk) 08:56, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright
Are we ever going to receive a full explanation regarding the uploading of the Aston Martin image as mentioned at your RfA, archiving a considerable number of unanswered comments relating to this issue seems rather improper. Given that some of us do take image copyright very seriously, can you at least admit that you stole the image, that you understand this and the resulting refusal to admit to stealing the image was very wrong and wholly incompatible with continued editing of Wikipedia. Can you also please identify any further uploads that require deletion for similar reasons or confirm that all your other uploads are wholly compliant with the relevant copyright and fair use policies (as and where appropriate). Nick (talk) 09:23, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

NYY seasons
I wouldn't want it to be similar to Boston Red Sox seasons. :-) Seriously, thanks for the help. This is my first attempt to bring something to featured status, and every bit of editing helps.  Giants2008  ( 17-14 ) 19:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC) (I bet you didn't think this was ugly six months ago! :-))

Simpson and Delilah
I've made some comments on the talk page - care to take a look? Thank you. Howdoyouturnthison (talk) 11:03, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Arkanasas newsletter, updated for August
-- Chet B. Long Talk / ARK 04:02, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
For this. Pre-transclusion comments are often viewed in low regard by the community. Good to see you back editing! Pedro : Chat  06:54, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, your welcome. I learned that from somewhere... :-) « <font color="#9696A0" face="Cambria">Milk's Favorite <font color="#4D0100" face="Snap ITC">Cøøkie  14:04, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much indeed for your help with and commitment to Tag & Assess 2008. May I please trouble you to comment at the post-drive workshop? Your feedback will help us to improve the next drive. Thanks in advance, -- R OGER D AVIES  talk 10:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully
Hello, sorry to bother you but I noticied you make a lot of good logos for user pages. I was wondering if you could make me a quick one for: EricV89 - I would appreciate it very much and would be eternally grateful if you could. Thanks. -- eric (mailbox)  17:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, I currently have a "backlog" of requests at the moment. I'll be busy moving out of state for the next several weeks. I'll try to get your request done ASAP. Sorry for the delay. Best, « <font color="#9696A0" face="Cambria">Milk's Favorite <font color="#4D0100" face="Snap ITC">Cøøkie  19:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * *jaw drops*, are you kidding? LOL, I'm just happy you said yes! -- thank you so much. Yayy, lol. Take your time and enjoy your vacation. :) -- eric (mailbox)  23:41, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, your welcome. Vacation? You mean hell considering all the items I have to pack. Furthermore, I'm driving 30 hours to the place I'm moving. Vacation? Most definitely not. But, I hope its worth it :-) « <font color="#9696A0" face="Cambria">Milk's Favorite <font color="#4D0100" face="Snap ITC">Cøøkie  23:46, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh?! Moving, huh? Somewhere sceanic I suppose? -- eric (mailbox)  22:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/WilliamH
Eh, close enough. :P I was only one vote away... Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  18:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It should be something like "I would have beat the nom if support votes were allowed before the RFA is transcluded by !voters other than the nominator, who cheated by nom supporting several days back support." :-) « <font color="#9696A0" face="Cambria">Milk's Favorite <font color="#4D0100" face="Snap ITC">Cøøkie  19:19, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That would have made the initial !vote segment longer than my reasoning. :) Also, what is this? You reply on your own talk page now? Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  19:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yea, it was so dull I didn't even notice it. This is better:         Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical  <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  01:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Lol. Now you can't miss it! Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  16:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Hurricane Felix
Hey, I have some time to look over this. I noticed you haven't nominated it for GA, but I can review and copyedit it for that purpose. Is that alright? Howdoyouturnthison (talk) 21:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * See the talk page. I haven't failed it formally, but it wouldn't pass a GA review. Howdoyouturnthison (talk) 13:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

List of NBA champions
The main reason I oppose the merge is really an issue of consistency. If you look at other sports, for example football. Vince Lombardi Trophy and List of Super Bowl champions are seperate. So do World Series Trophy and List of World Series, Stanley Cup and List of Stanley Cup champions. Now I understand that all other NBA awards page have the list on the award pages. But since other sports seperate the championship trophy from the list of champions, I think we should follow the same arrangement for the NBA as well.
 * I think you misunderstood what I said. What I am trying to say is that in every other sports, major award like the championship trophy have seperate pages for the trophy and the list of winners. But minor awards tend to have the list of winners on the trophy/award page itself. So, going back to my example. Major award like Vince Lombardi Trophy separates itself from List of Super Bowl champions (in a way it is a list of winners). But minor awards like National Football League Most Valuable Player Award have the list of winners on the page itself. Since every sports are like that, there is no reason to make exception for the nba.

New FA-Team mission needs your help!
Félix Houphouët-Boigny needs to be copyedited and peer reviewed. We would appreciate any and all help from the crack members of the FA-Team! Sign up here. Merci! Awadewit (talk) 12:11, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Question regarding Awards
Hi, just saw your brief discussion over at the List of Pearl Jam awards regarding whether "Rockonthenet.com" is a reliable source. Just wanting confirmation on whether it is in fact unreliable as I was planning on submitting List of The White Stripes awards‎ for Featured List and as you can see, it uses Rockonthenet.com a lot. ''' Red157 (talk • contribs) 13:10, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Simpson and Delilah - peer review
Added some comments and improvements, maybe add some more when you're done. I'm actually contacting you because it's a little annoying that some basic things didn't get picked up at the GA review - still as long as the improvements are made then there's no harm done. (update: just noticed the GA conversation about a first reviewer; I'll help them notice more things in future). Thanks. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 02:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Los Angeles Lakers Newsletter for August 3, 2008
-- K. Annoyomous  24  GO LAKERS! Please reply on my talk page. Thanks. 00:54, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Userpage
LOL at this (both edits). I never noticed that before :)  <font color="#008040">jj137  <font color="#008040">(  talk <font color="#008040">)  20:39, 5 August 2008 (UTC)