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help: view deleted page
Hey J Milburn,

Could you please help me with reviewing a deleted page? There is a Norwegian artist called Gabrielle Leithaug and I was gonna update her wiki page (I am not the original creator) and found her article deleted. There was no copyright infringement in the content and I would like to know why it has been deleted. If there really is a problem with the article I would like to edit it so it can stay public.

This is the link: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabrielle_Leithaug

Thank you.

-Julia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jule sound (talk • contribs) 13:48, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

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Faryl Smith
Yes, I did actually check the site. At the time (3 or so days ago), it had her page with a nice little graph and everything. I'm not sure what happened? I'll revert it tomorrow if I get no response from the website.  Clay  Clay  Clay  21:13, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it's back up, mysteriously. I guess just ping me again if it disappears again and I'll change it back to acharts.  Clay  Clay  Clay  20:29, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

POTD notification
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Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Mark Rutte-6.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on October 14, 2011. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2011-10-14.  howcheng  {chat} 17:58, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Are you serious?
You were the one who deleted the article on Jerry Lee, which is one of the true pioneers of Rock and Roll (no, it was not Elvis Presley). Are you serious? 176.15.159.156 (talk) 21:06, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The article I deleted (over four years ago) was about an architect, not a musician. If you have some reliable sources which discuss Lee the musician, you are of course welcome to create an account and write the article. Your first article may be helpful, and you're welcome to contact me if you need any help. J Milburn (talk) 08:14, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification, sorry for the bothering. It is too bad Wikipedia does not allow a way to see at least short description of what the deleted page was about. 176.15.159.156 (talk) 18:02, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Peace
Sorry, you think I was taking a cheap shot. Am not as much your enemy as you might think, but is complicated to explain and I should probably stop rebutting people too much on one thread so will not belabor the nuance of my points, for now. 71.246.147.40 (talk) 23:04, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Cup: personal comment
As a representative of the Cup team, I wondered whether there were any informal plans to attract some of Wikipedia's largest contributors to, or back to, the Cup. It would be nice to have some awesome competition. I post here because of its informal nature. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 13:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Define largest contributors... or, who exactly are you looking to attract? Ealdgyth - Talk 14:12, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Huh, you mean someone like Sturmvogel 66, Casliber, or Dr. Blofeld the DYK guy?  HurricaneFan 25  14:58, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Not actually naming anyone was the intention because clearly there were/are a lot of reasons why people have not participated this year. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 15:03, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It's something that certainly does make me pause to think. I know that a lot of FAC regulars (people whom I would consider big contributors) are not fans of the Cup. Casliber, of course, is a big hitter and a current participant. Sasata, TonyTheTiger and Sturmvogel were all previous participants, but no longer participate for various reasons. The Cup has something of a reputation, due in part to a general fear of anything too MySpace-y or too game-y. This is a fear which I personally consider mostly justified; I just see the Cup as a rare exception. There are other big content contributors (JJ Harrison and Ironholds, for instance) who have said that they do not want to participate simply because they feel they cannot/will not keep up the high levels of content contribution throughout the year. I do intend to do a little advertising in various places, but I don't think I'll be directly inviting anyone unless I happen to be chatting to them anyway. I'd personally love for a number of big content contributors for whom I have great respect (a few names off the top of my head, inevitably geared towards people I bump into a lot for whatever reason- Sasata, Ealdgyth, Ironholds, JJ Harrison, Diliff, Ucucha, Jimfbleak, Iridescent, Parrot of Doom, Malleus Fatuorum, Acdixon) to take part in the Cup, but if they don't want to for whatever reason, that's their choice. If anyone has any thoughts on this issue, I'd love to hear them. J Milburn (talk) 15:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * For me, the point scale is skewed.. there isn't enough points for the "hard" stuff - and too much for the DYK stuff. And I'm very sporadic in my editing .. if I am busy in real life, wikipedia takes a back seat. And if I joined the WIkiCup, I'd probably lose the best copyeditor I've ever found. Ealdgyth - Talk 22:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not a vindictive person Ealdgyth, although I do bear grudges. :-) Malleus Fatuorum 01:55, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * But you also hammer fools, and if I did something like join the Cup, I would definitely qualify as a fool given your opinion of it ... Ealdgyth - Talk 02:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * True. I've long refused to review Cup nominations at either GAN or FAC, so it would be a little inconsistent to copy edit them. Malleus Fatuorum 02:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Another issue I have is that there is not any way to really collaborate in the Cup - it's all very individualistic. So anything I did to work with the other Horse project editors on say Horse would be time away from Cup work, or any work at Peer Review or reviewing at FAC, or even helping someone with an article isn't considered "worthwhile". Ealdgyth - Talk 01:51, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ealdgyth; if you've participated significantly with improving an article during the competition which then gets recognised somehow (even if you're not technically a nominator) then you may claim points for it. However, yes, there are no points on offer for FAC/PR, and I personally believe it should stay that way, for obvious reasons. Malleus; obviously, we're going to disagree, but I just feel that you are being somewhat arbitrary in refusing to participate in Cup nominations. Yes, if someone is trying to promote articles for some reason other than the good of Wikipedia, that seems to be a fair reason to withold help from them. However, it does not follow that participating in the WikiCup automatically means that good editors automatically start writing articles for reasons other than improving the encyclopedia. J Milburn (talk) 15:04, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I think the emphasis is too much on creating new articles and not enough on expanding/improving existing ones. And while I'm not always in agreement with Johnbod about the focus of FA/GA on obscure subjects, I do think that we do often reward the creation of obscure articles rather than the improvement of the big topics. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:05, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ... or even improving articles on existing obscure topics. Malleus Fatuorum 16:13, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been touting a considerable multiplier for vital-2 level articles, and at least 2x for vital-3. But perhaps they should be bigger. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 16:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Extra rewards are on offer currently for big subjects (vital-3 and articles on 20+ Wikipedias at the start of the year), and we are discussing the possibility of more. We're also discussing the possibility of awarding more points for DYK expansions, rather than new articles. Your thoughts about the issue would be welcome at the discussion, even if you do not want to participate in the competition- the views of outsiders would be welcome. J Milburn (talk) 18:04, 18 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I guess another concern I have is with the short term nature of the competition - as an example look at this status compared to the current status of Geoffrey (archbishop of York). It took four years to get that change in (granted, I was working on other things during the same time) but my understanding of the cup rules is that all the improvements must take place during the competion - which tends to lead to folks creating new content and getting it to DYK or GA, rather than really pushing hard for the full comprehsive article. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Again, that's not quite right. Granted, work needs to have been done during the competition (we don't want people saving stuff up now and then nominating it come 1 Jan) but not all the work- merely "significant" work. We leave the term vague deliberately so that it cannot be gamed. J Milburn (talk) 14:14, 19 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, but most of the cup content/scoring I've seen tends to be "new" content. Not much seems to be done with already existing content ... I may be off, but that's my impression. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:16, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No, you make a fair point. As I say, the wheels are in motion to encourage expansion (as opposed to creation) in next year's competition. J Milburn (talk) 14:20, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

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FAC stalling
Hello J, as you are a judge for the Cup, I'd like to ask for your advice on what to do with the Featured article candidates/McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II/archive1, which is stalling. As the clock is ticking and that there are only 11 days left in the competition, what can I do to revitalise interest in the article which might be detrimental on whether I can come out on top this year? The FAC doesn't have any objections at the moment, but I'm worried because there are no supports or opposes, and I hate to see my FAC go down because of a lack of interest instead of the article being non-FA worthy. Sp33dyphil © • © 06:22, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Your GA Nomination of Connie Talbot's Christmas Album
Hello, J Milburn. I have reviewed the article Connie Talbot's Christmas Album for GA. It is generally very good, but there are just a few small issues. I have put the article On Hold for a number of days to give you a chance to resolve them. Cheers, Moisejp (talk) 05:26, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

FLC of K-Ci & JoJo discography
Hello J Milburn. About a month ago you gave comments on the FLC of K-Ci & JoJo discography. However you said that you were holding off your support until other users take a look. Two other users have have comments on it, and I was wondering if you could take a look whenever you have the chance and see if there were any other comments you have on the article. Thanks! —Michael Jester (talk) 04:13, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

POTD notification
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Trey McIntyre
You deleted the page Talk:Trey McIntyre in 2008. I have just fully referenced the current article and I would like to add project details to the talk page. Do you wish to undelete the previous one or shall I create it again? Please answer here, no need for tb. Thanks. --Mirokado (talk) 21:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * There's nothing of particular consequence there. Feel free to start anew. J Milburn (talk) 22:51, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, done. --Mirokado (talk) 23:00, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012
I already joined the competition, and have a question. Is a good topic worth 10 points for every GA or only your GA's? Likewise for featured topics. Sincerely, Bar Code Symmetry  (Talk) 00:53, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Connie Talbot's Xmas Album
Hi J Milburn, how's it going? How are things coming with the Connie Talbot's Christmas Album GAR, which has been On Hold the last nine days? By the way, how about this source? It appears to be her official site in Asia. That's what my impression was, and that it's not just a fan site or anything. And it looks like it has all the same info that her British (American?) official site would have had before going dead. Anyway, if we could finish off this review sometime soon, that'd be great. Thanks! Take care, Moisejp (talk) 16:39, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The article has passed. Congratulations! Moisejp (talk) 08:48, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 October newsletter
The 2011 WikiCup is now over, and our new champion is, who joins the exclusive club of the previous winners: (2007),  (2008),  (2009) and  (2010). The final standings were as follows:



Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.


 * The Featured Article Award:, for his performance in round 2. matched the score, but Casliber won the tiebreaker.
 * The Good Article Award:, for his performance in round 4.
 * The Featured List Award:, for his performance in round 4. matched the score, but Miyagawa won the tiebreaker.
 * The Recognised Topic Award (for good and featured topics):, for his performance in round 3.
 * The Did You Know Award:, for his performance in round 1.
 * The In the News Award:, for his performance in round 1.
 * The Reviewer Award (for good article reviews):, for his performance in round 3.

No prize was awarded for featured pictures, sounds or portals, as none were claimed throughout the competition. The awards will be handed out over the next few days. Congratulations to all our participants, and especially our winners; we've all had fun, and Wikipedia has benefitted massively from our content work.

Preparation for next year's WikiCup is ongoing. Interested parties are invited to sign up and participate in our straw polls. It's been a pleasure to work with you all this year, and, whoever's taking part in and running the competition in 2012, we hope to see you all in January! J Milburn and The ed17 00:41, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

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Mail call
Sent you an email. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 21:21, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Trophy heads up
Hiya, I just posted a new 2nd place cup image in the workshop, let me know what you think. Cheers. --The Pink Oboe (talk) 16:55, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
 * All done now --The Pink Oboe (talk) 19:06, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

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Page move
Hi JM, was wondering if you could help me with an admin task. Paecilomyces lilacinus recently underwent a name change to Purpureocillium lilacinum, and a newish user did a copy-paste move rather than a move to preserve article history. I rolled back the change to the original article, but now of course I can't move it because the new article is already there. Would you be able to finish the move for me? Thanks! Sasata (talk) 15:10, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, if you could move it to Purpureocillium that would be even better, because it's now monotypic. Sasata (talk) 15:21, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Connie Talbot's Holiday Magic Passed
Hi, J Milburn. How are you? I have just finished reviewing Connie Talbot's Holiday Magic and it has passed. Congratulations! Take care, Moisejp (talk) 16:38, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * But Connie Talbot and Over the Rainbow (Connie Talbot album) are already FA, right? Is what you mean that you're going to try to bring Christmas Album and Holiday Magic to FA, too? Moisejp (talk) 17:23, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. Featured topic. Sorry, I missed that. Well, good luck with that!! Moisejp (talk) 17:24, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Söderbaum.jpg
The image in question is File:Söderbaum.jpg. I was advised not to use it in an article because it is not free. (See Talk:Jud Süß (1940 film)/GA1) In fact, it is slated for deletion for lack of a "fair use rationale". I'm a bit confused because the "Licensing" section says "This is a logo of an organization, item, or event, and is protected by copyright." I think this is a mistake because it's a photo of a (deceased) stage/film actress. I don't know when the photo was taken but I would guess that it was taken in the 1930s and so it probably is still under copyright protection.

I'm not sure what, if anything, can be done to keep this image in Wikipedia. Can you give me some idea of what I might do next? Is there, in your opinion, a fair-use rationale for using this image? I have seen assertions that low-resolution versions of non-free images are acceptable under the fair-use doctrine. Do you think this applies?

Would you agree that the assertion that this is a logo is incorrect?

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Stewie Goes for a Drive GAN
Please continue your review of the article. I believe I have addressed all your concerns. Thanks. Gage (talk) 21:52, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Anaphora Literary Press
I began the article Anaphora Literary Press, which was deleted. I had thought it was suitably notable and verified, but apparently someone thought it wasn't. I saw you listed as an editor who could put the deleted article in my user space, and I would appreciate it if you could do that for me.

I would like to talk to an admin about what I can do so that I don't run into this problem in the future. If you or an editor you know who deals with publisher articles could help me, that would be great. I had read Wikipedia articles about what was required, so apparently I missed something.

Thank you for your help. Alden Loveshade (talk) 17:49, 21 November 2011 (UTC)


 * The admin who deleted the article just moved it to my user space, so you can ignore the above. Alden Loveshade (talk) 18:23, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

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Request
Hello J Milburn, Please request possible.

Is it possible to develop an article Singer of the High School Musical, Corbin Bleu and become a good article See the article Arabic Wikipedia good article, can you? .

See in this version of the User:Efe well written, but I do not know retrieved.

Success in your life. Goodbye J Milburn. --77.30.104.238 (talk) 20:23, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I imagine that there would be enough material about Bleu out there, but the article does have a way to go. It is not something that I would be interested in doing, though I could offer you some pointers if you like? J Milburn (talk) 19:01, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the talk, Sir, but I want you just to fix this article.

Like this version, written better. And better pictures. This can be done please. To become a (good article). --2.89.32.240 (talk) 06:06, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I am afraid I am not willing to work on that article at this time. You may want to try contacting relevant WikiProjects, contacting editors of related articles or offering a bounty at the bounty board. J Milburn (talk) 10:04, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Wonderland (Faryl Smith album) GAN
Hi, I've reviewed Wonderland (Faryl Smith album) and placed it on hold for a week. The review is at Talk:Wonderland (Faryl Smith album)/GA1. -- Beloved Freak  13:15, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Restore FP file page
Hi. Will you restore File:Oil platform P-51 (Brazil).jpg? The file page was deleted despite including the FP tag (and probably the POTD one too). Also, a question: when I notice something like this, should I just re-add the FP tag? Or is it better to request that an admin restore the page? Thanks. Makeemlighter (talk) 02:29, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, why does it need to be restored? Do we need image pages for all FPs locally? J Milburn (talk) 10:51, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know if we need them, but we've had them for as long as I've been around. The local page holds the FP tag. This is potentially redundant, since many (but not all, in my experience) FPs end up being tagged as en-Wiki FPs on Commons. A lot of the Commons tags are incorrect too (the tag on File:Clavulina cristata sasata.JPG, for example). We could stop tagging on here, but that would take a big discussion. FPs end up getting local pages for POTD anyway, and many get assessed by local Wikiprojects. I'm not sure if that answers your question... Makeemlighter (talk) 16:36, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've restored the page history, but not the file, and reverted to an old version. I'll take your word for it concerning the conventions- I know you'll know that better than I. J Milburn (talk) 16:42, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Makeemlighter (talk) 23:32, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

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Phodopus
I think I have fixed all of the issues except the Taxomony one for now, can you confirm this please? Thank you.  Puffin  Let's talk! 10:33, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I think I have done the Taxanomy now.  Puffin  Let's talk! 22:18, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Possible featured pictures?
Hi there J Milburn. You seem like someone who knows a lot about the featured picture process. I've happened to run across a couple of high resolution portraits on Wikipedia that, in my very unqualified opinion, seem to be of a high technical standard. The first is this one of comedian Zoe Lyons (which could probably do with a bit of a crop at the top), and second is of opera singer Angela Gheorghiu. Do you reckon it would be worth nominating either or both of these images at FPC, or is there some obvious flaw in them that I'm completely overlooking? Thanks for your time. A Thousand Doors (talk &#124; contribs) 19:35, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

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why so speedy of a deletion?
I clearly stated in my Jason Myers article that he is an American Author with 4 published books that are actually quite highly reviewed. I am confused as to why this does not meet the criteria for wikipedia. There are many other author's pages on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Physup (talk • contribs) 17:01, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Request for a second opinion
Hi there. I was wondering if you'd be willing to provide a second opinion at Talk:Heriot-Watt University/GA1. I'm not sure how to proceed.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  09:21, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Request to close conversation
Would you like to close the discussion on Wikipedia_talk:FPC? Seems to me that the result should be "no consensus", and this conversation could be linked in the FP nominating procedures. Pinetalk 07:35, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Request for action
User:Makeemlighter has not responded to my request that he return to  discussion. Can you do something to bring this to resolution? Pinetalk 07:39, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

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Request for opinion
Hi. Thank you for your patience in letting things run their course re Phodopus. When you closed your GAN assessment, you offered a "third opinion". I'm still hoping to help Puffin if he'll let me, so I'd be very happy to know your opinion, if you would. Best regards, --Stfg (talk) 20:29, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
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Romances
Hello J Milburn! The article for Romances was promoted a few months ago and now I had another peer review and it is currently going another copy-edit. From the last FAC, I want to know if the issues you've pointed as still current or if there are new issues that need to be addressed before I submit it as a FAC. Thank you for your time. Erick (talk) 18:21, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Discussion on linking to streamed copies of albums
Wikipedia policy allows us to link to legal streamed copies of albums. It would be useful to draw up a guideline on how and when to link to such albums; however, there is concern that it may not be appropriate as the music would not be available in all parts of the world. Is the benefit of having access to the music for most users outweighed by the fact that some users will follow a link to find the music is not playable in their region? Your view would be helpful at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Albums.  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  02:23, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Rewrite (visual novel)/GA1
Hey. Doesn't look like the concerns are going to be touched, so you can just fail this. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 19:58, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Problem with license in a photo
There is a photo in Flickr of Sean Lennon. Some Admin or "trusted" whatever uploaded it, but the Creative Commons license is not one we accept. See here: and the uploaded photo is used in several different language Wikipedias. Here it is in Commons:  Sometimes the photographers change their license to a more restricted one, but I don't think so here, since I uploaded a photo of Hindi Zahra, and the license is proper and unchanged. Can you work out the delicate issues with the Lennon photo? Thanks, --Leahtwosaints (talk) 22:30, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Geoffrey Keezer
Sorry to keep pestering you. This time, it's about the photo for the article on Geoffrey Keezer's biography. It was tagged by a bot and really needs to be moved to Commons, if you would be so kind! Thanks! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 19:05, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Borderline vandalism on an FPC nomination
What would be the appropriate way to handle user who seemed to be posting borderline vandalism here? At best his comment was a poor judgment of what's appropriate when commenting on FPCs. The user's talk page shows that he already has a Level 4 warning from December 11th for vandalism, although the warning doesn't link to whichever page it was that he allegedly vandalized so I can't tell how serious it was. Because the prior warning was a Level 4, I'm wondering if a referral to AIV for a block is appropriate. <b style="color:#01796F;">Pine</b>talk 09:59, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks...
... for your comment. I have responded ... I need you to help me a bit. I have done it but still... Jivesh 1205 (Talk)

Second opinion requested on image in GAN
Hello. I am currently reviewing the article Ontario Highway 400's good article nomination and would like a second opinion regarding the use of File:400 Woodbridge.png in the article. The picture has the tag commons:Template:Not-PD-US-URAA, which states that the image is currently considered copyrighted in the US. My initial thought is that because of this use of the image would require a fair-use rationale and would need to meet WP:NFCC. However, because this seems to be a gray area I'd appreciate your opinion on this. Thanks in advance, –Grondemar 18:56, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your assistance. –Grondemar 06:40, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

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Need help with photo of Taufik Batisah
I stumbled upon the article of Taufik Batisah, and the photo is placed sideways. I really strongly don't think that the photo was meant to be displayed like that, and I'm hoping either you know how to fix it, or you know someone who can. I sure appreciate all the help you continue to give us struggling computer-ignorant editors. If you can respond on my talk page, I'd appreciate it! Merry Christmas to you, too!! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 15:34, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
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Question
Greetings Milburn. Can you please tell me whether the rationale of the of "Halo" looks good to you? Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 06:27, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for replying. Happy to know it can remain. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 09:01, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

User:Wiki no 4
Hi! You're good with images, right? has uploaded a bunch of copyrighted images on Commons (see here), which he quite obviously is not the owner of. He even claims to be Matt Groening here. I don't really know how they deal with this kind of stuff on Commons so I'd really appreciate if you could handle it. Thanks, Theleftorium (talk) 13:38, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Thank you! Theleftorium (talk) 14:34, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup bot
Just dropping by to confirm how I have coded the bot (or should have done - I won't be able to test it properly so it may take a day or two to get going properly), so you can adjust your opening instructions as appropriate :)


 * The bot will check every article in every category where multipliers are in play, for each, it will:
 * check the number of interwiki links as of 31 December 2011
 * append a template that looks a bit like  or , etc. If people try a manual multiplier by duplicating lines, it will do this for the first line and ignore subsequent lines.
 * If there are changes, it will save the updated submissions page.
 * It will then tot up the scores as appropriate for the main display.
 * If there was already a template in place, however - either left by a human or the bot in a previous run - it will not override it (contestants can use this to get the correct multiplier if they've got one of the 0.12% of the Vital3 list not qualifying under the interwiki criterion at their own peril). Notes that if people change these in order to cheat, it will obligingly obey and give the 537x times the usual points (or whatever), but I don't suppose they will. The fraud, in any case, would be easily verified later on.
 * The logging behaviour implemented last year, as well as the "running total" functionality, remains unchanged.

I hope that is agreeable to you, and I trust you found nothing actionable in my previous email. Festive regards, - Jarry1250 [Weasel? Discuss.] 20:43, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Plegmund...
I think i got most of the issues - feel free to bring up anything else that strikes you. While I have you, can I get you to look over this for me and tell me if I was totally off base in thinking it was wanting more than was required for GA? Ealdgyth - Talk 01:21, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
 * And hope I dealt with the others - Ealdgyth - Talk 17:49, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Not meaning to nag, but could you look at that other issue I brought up right above? Ealdgyth - Talk 17:49, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup Question
Hey there, I didn't plan it as such, but it looks like a GA nomination that I started before the cup is going to still be open once it starts. Not that it particularly matters, but I just wanted to know if I get credit for GANs that close during the cup but don't start during it. Thanks,  S ven M anguard   Wha?  21:18, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify, I'm doing the review of the GA nomination. Does the answer you left on my talk page remain the same?  S ven M anguard   Wha?  04:56, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No, anything started or done during 2012 will not count for this year's cup. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 05:00, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I assume you meant "not started". Thanks for the prompt responses.  S ven M anguard   Wha?  05:15, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually I had a typo in the year – I meant 2011. Sorry for the confusion. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:34, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Blonde on Blonde: audio sample rationale
Hi J Milburn, we've attempted to respond to your comments. Let us know if we're heading in right direction.Best wishes Mick gold (talk) 07:55, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
 * J Milburn, I've taken your comments about audio file rationale relating to text rather than caption on board, and tweaked Blonde on Blonde captions accordingly. Mick gold (talk) 16:11, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Old Page
Should the list here be blanked? It appears to be from last year's competition... <span style="-moz-border-radius:1em;border:1px solid black;font-size:11px;background-color:red;color:white;padding:1px 4px 1px 5px">Bar Code Symmetry  (Talk) 01:33, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Done, thanks. There are a couple of little bits which will probably still need updating... J Milburn (talk) 01:36, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Contestants
Hey J, where are we putting the list of contestants? WikiCup/History/2012/Contestants is a redlink... Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 02:04, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, sorry, should have kept you up to date on what I've been up to. You may have noticed I've done some spamming and updating. You're right that the list still needs to be created. I've moved all of the signups as of a couple of hours ago to WikiCup/History/2012, which can go "live" some time later today (probably around 5/6 Wikipedia time- I'm not going to be here over the course of the evening). When adding someone to the history page, you will also need to update WikiCup/Participant3 and create them a submissions page. I considered reworking the rounds, seeing as we only had seventy signups this year, but I reckon we'll get at least a couple of dozen more over the course of January, so there will be some to eliminate come the end of February. I'll send out welcome-type notes later, with links to submissions pages, introductory "need to know" facts, reminders and a request that people add themselves to the newsletter list, if not there already. I was also in contact with Jarry earlier today about the bot- he's updated it, but I had another quick request. I think that's everything- have I missed anything? J Milburn (talk) 02:12, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * No worries, this all looks good to me. You're the one setting it up so there's really no need to go overboard on informing me. :-) We've already gotten quite a bit from the notices you sent out, so I'm thinking we're looking pretty healthy at the moment. Nice job, J. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 07:01, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, I've added a flag to my name, just to get in the spirit of things, but it dawned on me that the casual observer may see that as non-neutral. Thoughts? Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 07:41, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Nah, that sounds cool. I'll add one too. J Milburn (talk) 12:11, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, updated the link above to the contestant template. J Milburn (talk) 12:14, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup flag
Would you mind moving me a few notches on the WikiCup's 2012 history page? (My flag looks awkward right below the same one...) Thanks.  HurricaneFan 25  —  17:10, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The message you sent using EBot that was supposed to link to the submissions page failed.  HurricaneFan 25  —  17:58, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

User:Hurricanefan25
The above user just deleted the Welcome to the Wikicup message from signed up competitors pages, using an alternate account User:Hurricanefan24. What is going on? Jezhotwells (talk) 18:21, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hurricanefan25&diff=468805788&oldid=468805694 This] seems like a reasonable explanation, but you chiming in his page would probably help calm things down. Tito xd (?!? - cool stuff) 18:24, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * As you can see at WikiCup/History/2012, all of the submission links have been created and there was an error with the script given to the bot. WP:AGF a little?  Eagles   24/7  (C)  18:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, yes, a mistake of mine was to blame here. Nothing to worry about- thanks for the notes, everyone. J Milburn (talk) 18:33, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * All links have been prepped. Sorry for creating this mess...  HurricaneFan Alt  ≈≈ ( bad revert? ) 18:48, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup
I have reverted the additions of a FA and GA by Sjones23 worked on and nominated in 2011. Since I am a contestant in the WikiCup as well, I am notifying you in case of a COI.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  04:41, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Eagle, but I believe (J will correct me if I'm wrong!) that we rather you notify us first. This way, the judges can assess the offending material beforehand and remove it ourselves, saving all of us from a source of possible drama. Regards, Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 07:28, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it, will do.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  08:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ed's right in this regard- best this is kept for the judges. However, I've left a note agreeing with you on the contestant's talk page. Thanks for the note. J Milburn (talk) 13:15, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

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Re: WikiCup bot- a thought
Okay, should all be updated. Not only had I not removed featured sounds, but I hadn't even updated the point s for each category. Thankfully you made me look at the code before it went live :) Anyway, it's all set up for tomorrow; not entirely convinced it'll work first time, but we'll see. (I won't be around to fix things until about 18:00 UTC, but I don't think that's too bad.) - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 12:36, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Well that was rather predictable. Anyway, should be fixed now (we shall see, of course). Thanks, - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 16:31, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If I were, I'd only have myself to blame. Anyway, this particular problem intrigued me for a moment, but it transpires that taking one away from  gets you minus one... live and learn. Regards, - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 20:47, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: WikiCup bot- a thought
Okay, should all be updated. Not only had I not removed featured sounds, but I hadn't even updated the point s for each category. Thankfully you made me look at the code before it went live :) Anyway, it's all set up for tomorrow; not entirely convinced it'll work first time, but we'll see. (I won't be around to fix things until about 18:00 UTC, but I don't think that's too bad.) - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 12:36, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Well that was rather predictable. Anyway, should be fixed now (we shall see, of course). Thanks, - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 16:31, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If I were, I'd only have myself to blame. Anyway, this particular problem intrigued me for a moment, but it transpires that taking one away from  gets you minus one... live and learn. Regards, - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 20:47, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Bot
I had to revert an edit done by Living Bot as seen here because it keeps reverting my points to 0. – TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 22:40, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that; I am aware of it, and it only seems to be affecting you, for some reason. I've been manually reverting it (see the edit I just made) and I've talked to Jarry (the bot op) about it. We'll hopefully be able to sort it. J Milburn (talk) 23:05, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, there was a small typo in the code (a second typo caused the duplication of the multiplier template). Both should be fixed now :) - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 23:48, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Upgraded "Fluorine economy"
Hey J, we've taken your advice and made the change in the diagram (and some other good ideas from reviewers). If you could come take a look and support vote, much appreciated! TCO (Reviews needed) 01:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Wiki Cup
Hello Milburn. How are you? I have a question related with the Wiki Cup points. I nominated "Unfaithful" for DYK on December 29, 2011, but the DYK page was updated with the fact on January 5, 2012. Will the DYK about "Unfaithful" affect on my points in the Cup? Thank You. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  00:12, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello Tomica- I'm very well thanks. I am afraid that you cannot claim points for this article, as it was nominated in 2011. To be eligible for points, you must have both done significant work on the article in 2012 and nominated it in 2012. If you have done so, you add it to your submissions page- you can find yours at WikiCup/History/2012/Submissions/1111tomica. J Milburn (talk) 00:19, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I thought the same, but I wanted to give a try. Thanks for the response anyway :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  00:24, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/WeedySeadragon
You pointed me to the above discussion. As far as I can see there have been no new posts since 2005. Am I missing something? Zeimusu | Talk page 19:31, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Query ...
Is this enough work to allow me to claim this as a GAN for Wikicup? I'm a bit unclear on how much "work" is involved in "significant" work... I'll be nominating it no matter what, just want to have an idea on whether it qualifies. Thanks! Ealdgyth - Talk 20:57, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Speaking as the other judge, that's certainly enough for me. "Significant" was deliberately left vague because a large amount of work can be anything from adding bytes to a total rewrite. Nice work, Ealdgyth. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:49, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's certainly enough. J Milburn (talk) 12:45, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception of the Holy Virgin Mary
hello,

you opposed the promotion of this picture, but now, as User:Fallschirmjäger retouched the picture, can you take a second look? Thanks. ♫GoP♫ <sub style="color:red;">T <sup style="color:red;">C <sub style="color:red;">N 19:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikicup multiplier
Milburn, can you please explain to me what the bot did here in my assessment page? — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 16:44, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Nothing to worry about- it's just assessing that it's not eligible for bonus points. If it there had been an article on the subject on 20 or more Wikipedias as of the start of the competition, it would have automatically given you bonus points on the table. J Milburn (talk) 17:13, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, so for eg if Like a Prayer is promoted to GA/FA this year, I only need to add it once in the appropriate section and the bot would multiply the points right? — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 17:19, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep. There's also a separate column for the bonus points now. J Milburn (talk) 18:40, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: WikiCup logging
No worries. The bot should add things now as and when it finds them, as before really. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 17:31, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Talk:John de Gray/GA1
(leans on you) I think I got the issues, anything else? Ealdgyth - Talk 15:20, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Featured topic candidates/Faryl Smith/archive1
The lack of a report is no biggie, since I can easily manually check the articles for issues. As to why the report isn't showing up, I honestly have no idea, as one should have been made by now. Your best bet is to talk to the bot owner, User:Noommos, and see if he can figure it out. He appears inactive, but the bot is working from the looks of it. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 18:56, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Poppy FA
Juts starting your points, it wierd how weve met again, small world... :P Mayhem  Mario  17:49, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, again, somethings just popped up, so im going to have the go offline, but I will start it as soon as I get online. Monday at the latest. Mayhem  Mario  17:54, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I really wouldnt ask this if I didnt have too, but im really really tied up lately. Can I do it the next two days? So sorry! Mayhem  Mario  16:11, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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Re: WkiCup
That's alright, if it doesn't count it doesn't count. So I know for the future, did you feel it wasn't in-depth enough, or was it that I fixed any errors and passed it rather than listing them and holding it? GRAPPLE  X  12:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Conundrum
I have a question. I wrote an article, 2011 Southern California fires because I couldn't find one on the topic, and thought there was no article about the event. So I wrote an article and nominated it for ITN which got shot down (I was basically told no because ITN is too US-centric). I was notified on my talk page that a page existed already but was told "your version is much better developed". So I redirected the other page into mine. I then had RL things to do and when I came back I saw that User:YummyDonutsmmm had basically copy-pasted my article to his title and redirected my page without discussion. YummyDonutsmmm was found to be a sock of User:Daniel L. Barth and was bolcked indefinately. Before he was blocked he nominated the article for DYK. I just said on the DYK that I would take over for him.

Since the text on the page is pretty much my writing, if I can get the article to the Main Page can I claim points? <span style="-moz-border-radius:1em;border:1px solid black;font-size:11px;background-color:red;color:white;padding:1px 4px 1px 5px">BCS  (Talk) 20:42, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, if the situation is as you said it is, I would have no objection. However, this is unlikely to hit DYK if it is at AfD. Regardless, if YummyDonutsmmm copy-pasted your article to another title without attribution, there is a copyright problem. Even if you don't mind your text going unattributed, this may lead to the article being deleted later as a copyvio. Has there been a history merge at some point in the history? Where are your edits to the article? Are they in the current title's page history, or elsewhere? J Milburn (talk) 20:52, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've seen articles at AfD and DYK get promoted before. The AfD is on the way to be a keep. I think copyvios are only about Wikipedia copying other websties. The article was denied a history merge. My edits are at 2011 Southern California fires. They are in the current article, but not in the page history. See the talk page for more info. <span style="-moz-border-radius:1em;border:1px solid black;font-size:11px;background-color:red;color:white;padding:1px 4px 1px 5px">BCS  (Talk) 21:17, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If the issue simply one editor copying another article on wikipedia, then it's not a copyvio - all edits made here are released into the public domain by default. The pages should ideally be histmerged if possible though. GRAPPLE   X  21:22, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Wrong. Material is released under a Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0 and the GFDL- come on, it says that at the bottom of the page and directly under the edit box! As such, the material can be copied, providing attribution is given. If attribution is not given, then it's a copyvio, and so, yes, it's a problem. BCS, your edits are not in that page's history, as it the history for that page was moved to 2011 Los Angeles arson spree. You may want to merge that page's history with the current title, if your text was copied to the current article. I can't say I'm an expert at history merges, so I wouldn't want to touch that, personally. J Milburn (talk) 21:51, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about copyrights, but a histmerge was previously denied. I forgot that the article was moved within minutes of creation, so you are correct about 2011 Los Angeles arson spree being the page I want to merge. <span style="-moz-border-radius:1em;border:1px solid black;font-size:11px;background-color:red;color:white;padding:1px 4px 1px 5px">BCS  (Talk) 22:26, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok- I've asked Anthony Appleyard, who denied the histmerge, about the situation. I can assure you that if you have contributed heavily to the current article this year, even if you did so through your work being copy-pasted there, I am happy for you to claim points; however, I remain interested about this histmerge situation... J Milburn (talk) 22:40, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

My reviews
I must say that I feel somewhat aggrieved. The system that you have instituted for this cup appears somewhat skewed. If I review an article that is of GA standard or very near and there is little or nothing to comment on, then I don't get any points, yet other reviews that miss obviously poor prose such as Talk:So Appalled/GA1 or Talk:Forest Highway 16/GA1 where one of the reviewers points remained unaddressed get the points. Your call, but it all seems a little pointless. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:01, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikicup query
Hey JM. Wondered if you thought it might be a nice idea for me (or anyone else) to pick out at advertise on WT:CUP some multiplied articles that it might be nice for people to work on? Just a spread of a dozen, or something? - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 21:49, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've no objection to that, in principle. Ever heard of Spotlight? I was the director briefly, and the idea would be very much in the spirit of that project, which is certainly a good one, if a little on/off. J Milburn (talk) 21:54, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did some work as part of a different incarnation of that project. I'm imagining in this context probably less in the way of collaboration, but certainly, if a few get done, it'll be worth it. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 21:58, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Speaking not as a judge here, only a TPSer, that's an awesome idea – someone might see an important article that happens to fall within their topic area and decide to improve it to get the multiplier. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 22:07, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

FYI
.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  23:02, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've removed it. Ed and I are keeping an eye on the submissions, but there seems to be a few things going on with that user... I assume they are a younger Wikipedian. J Milburn (talk) 23:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree, and your message to that user addressed both of my concerns.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  23:51, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Yogo sapphire photo reshoots
Hi. I was wondering if you could help me out. See Talk:Yogo sapphire, specifically Talk:Yogo_sapphire and its subsections. I'm trying to get decent pics of two Yogo sapphires. Any help appreciated. Pumpkin Sky  talk  01:36, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates/Wanderer above the Sea of Fog
I found the author of the photographic reproduction that you were worried about. cheers--Guerillero &#124; My Talk  15:33, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Image review
Any chance you'd be able to do an image review at the psilocybin FAC? I think it should be routine/uncontroversial. Sasata (talk) 16:17, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

10 złotych note
Hello, I am in the 2012 WikiCup, and I have a GA problem. I have nominated an article, 10 złotych note, for GA status and it passed. (Talk:10 złotych note/GA1) A few days later, after discussions with a third party, it is delisted. (Talk:10 złotych note/GA1) Should I keep the points for the WikiCup or take them away and get them back when it passes, eventually, in a /GA2? – Plarem (User talk) 20:57, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page. J Milburn (talk) 10:35, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK scoring
If you nominate an article for DYK but you didn't write it or expand it, does that count for the WikiCup? <span style="-moz-border-radius:1em;border:1px solid black;font-size:11px;background-color:red;color:white;padding:1px 4px 1px 5px">BCS  (Talk) 21:32, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page. J Milburn (talk) 10:35, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Help if possible
Are you online? Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 12:12, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you know an alternative for "dips in and out"? See this. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 14:04, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
– Muboshgu (talk) 23:44, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup question
I have a question in regards to GA nominations. Could I submit GAN articles before achieving good article status, or do I have to undergo the whole process before submitting? —DAP388 (talk) 00:52, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Re: WikiCup/History/2012/Submissions/Jivesh boodhun
Thank you for the notification and sorry for any inconvenience. I will let the judges sort the submissions out next time and contact you or Ed if there seems to be a dispute. I do, however, have a quick and simple question: should GA reviews be started and finished during the WikiCup, or do they only have to be finished during the WikiCup? Thanks! — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  01:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * It does not matter. Thanks for explaining. Jivesh 1205 (Talk) 04:33, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, that should help. — WP: PENGUIN  · [ TALK ]  19:19, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

RE Beat of My Drum
God I forgot to reply. I nominated to the Guild of Copy-editors but is it worth it? I know it isn't GA quality yet but is there anyway you could pretty please do a quick c/e and then I'd renominate it? Thanks a bunch for your support anyhow :) -FeuDeJoie (talk) 20:28, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. FAC wow well maybe but I could never do something like that on my own! -FeuDeJoie (talk) 22:01, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've seen a couple of FA music articles you have written! But what album is at FAC now, I had a look must've missed it :) -FeuDeJoie (talk) 22:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

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Can articles which have been editing in both 2011 and 2012 but nominated 2012 still allow for points to be claimed? Calvin  &bull; Watch n'  Learn 17:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * OKay. I assume that Loud (Rihanna album) would not be eligible. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 18:11, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Why Loud worth 200 points and not 30? Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 18:22, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If it's featured article is worth 100 points. But why 200 Milburn? — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  18:25, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about GA though. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 18:30, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Articles featured on more than 20 Wikipedias as of the end of last year are worth double points, and I was meaning it would be worth 200 if it passed FA- my suggestion was that, as it was not eligible for GA points, you could try working it towards FA level. J Milburn (talk) 21:41, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ohhh right okay. So articles on more than 20 Wikipedia's get double points? Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 22:06, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, provided it was on 20 or more at the end of last year. Take a look at WikiCup/Scoring for details. J Milburn (talk) 00:25, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * How do you know how many an article is on? Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 13:34, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Go back to the relevant time in the page's history, and view the page; you can then count the interwikis on the left of the page, at the bottom of the sidebar (under "search", "interaction" and "toolbox", you will see the interwikis. Alternatively, Jarry, the botop, has posted what I believe is a full list on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. J Milburn (talk) 13:49, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm I don't get it haha. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 15:33, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok. "Interwikis" are links to articles on the same topic on other Wikipedias. Look at Fomitiporia ellipsoidea. There are three interwiki links- they are visible just to the left of the title "description" on my screen. They are underneath the search box. This article has three interwikis, and so would not be eligible for bonus points. What you need to do is check how many interwikis there were on 31 December 2011 on the article in question. Alternatively, click edit, and go right to the bottom of the page. On the article I mentioned, you will see, below the external links and categories, there are the three interwikis-

Fomitiporia ellipsoidea Fomitiporia ellipsoidea 椭圆嗜蓝孢孔菌
 * On your article, there will be many more. If you still don't follow what I'm saying, don't worry: The bot will calculate automatically whether articles are eligible, or you can contact me and I can check for you. J Milburn (talk) 23:15, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah okay I get it. Loud has 26 or something. Calvin  &bull; Watch  n'  Learn 00:19, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia CENSORING information, one day after it's strike against censoring the internet...
Please provide a copy of Claims_of_free_energy_device and put it in my user space. thank you. -- Namaste@ ? 20:21, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Like a Prayer (song)/GA2
Milburn, can you delete this please? An IP created this falsely. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 04:16, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I just realised its created by an IP sock of Catherine Huebscher, who is banned. — <i style="color:blue;">Legolas</i> ( talk 2 me ) 04:20, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

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Do GANs which are nominated in the first round but do not get reviewed until the second round still get placed in the second round? If that makes sense? Lol. Aaron  &bull; You Da  One 01:15, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Appreciate your comments/edits on Madagascar
Hi J Milburn, You've been such a help to Visionholder and me on our respective Madagascar-related articles. I've just completed revising the main article on Madagascar and intend to nominate it for GA this weekend after I add a few more citations. It's just undergone a copy edit and an automated peer review was completed but the reviewer didn't respond to my request to focus on breadth/depth of content and objectivity in regards to the political situation in particular. If you have the opportunity to look it over and provide your thoughts on it before nominating, I think you could help reduce the kinds of issues others might raise at the GA and FA reviews. (Once it gets to GA, I hope to quickly move it on to FA afterward, since I tried to write it to that level of quality.) Many thanks, Lemurbaby (talk) 19:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
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Timeline
I was told by the winner of last year's cup that I could claim points if the timeline got most of the comments/votes in 2012, which it did. Is that not so? TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 21:21, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Just wanted to let you know
I was able to find the Malamat paper. Hopefully, this will help fill out the article some more so that it can become FA. Cheers, Magister Scienta talk 20:11, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Whiplash (Selena Gomez & the Scene song)
Hello. I addressed most of the issues on the GA review. The last point however I didn't understand. Till I Go Home (talk) 08:18, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi again, I don't mean to sound pushy but are you intending on finishing up the review? Till I Go Home (talk) 07:10, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi
I nominated We Ride for GAN on Dec 29 2011, I can't claim points can I now that it was passed today? Aaron  &bull; You Da  One 12:17, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks, just checking. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 17:09, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Faryl FAC
Hey. Could you ping me once that FAC is closed? This way I'll know when to close the topic. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 17:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

RE: canvassing
I admit, so of the comment I left might have pushed it a bit due it my frustration that the 3 times I put the image up for FP it gets denied by one vote (one time I got 2/3 of votes exactly but the admin who closed the nomination decided that it will not be promoted and another time the nomination has taking what from the main nomination for more than 24 hrs (by mistake I assume)). Anyways, Sorry to have caused a problem :-) -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 03:54, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

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I noticed two people have got bonus points for a GA and DYK? I thought you only got that with an FA? Aaron  &bull; You Da  One 16:10, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
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RE: Reviews
Ah, OK. I'll fix it ;) --Khanassassin (talk) 08:52, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

ITN
Would an article that you have created earn you points for ITN? Bruvtakesover (T&#124;C) 15:56, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Deep Blue
I asked a question at the help desk over at Commons about Deep Blue. The reply I received suggested I asked an OTRS Volunteer to help. Looking at the list of names of OTRS people, yours was about the only name I recognised. Can you help? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:56, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview
Dear J Milburn,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:
 * Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
 * Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
 * All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
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Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

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North Pier, Blackpool
Hey J Milburn. Thanks for offering so many suggestions. I've made most of the changes you've suggested, pulled out some text and inserted some other. The only thing left is the map which I'll play around with over the next day or so (wouldn't mind a little input if you think either option I've suggested is something I could use). If you get a chance to have another look, I'd appreciate it! Cheers! WormTT  &middot; &#32;(talk) 15:28, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I've been meaning to get back into article writing for ages... it's dreadful how little actual content creation I've done recently, and I thought that the pier would be a very interesting topic! Thanks for taking the time on it.  WormTT   &middot; &#32;(talk) 16:10, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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Deep Blue again
I have been in touch with Anders Poulsen, the diver and photographer responsible for the Deep Blue site. He has agreed to release images under an appropriate license. I have sent you an email which copies our most recent correspondence. If he really means to release all his undersea images, it is a splendid resource. What do you think? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:21, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm pleased you think his release satisfactory and I will forward the email appropriately. Thank you for your help in the matter. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:47, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2012/Submissions/Tigerboy1966
Whoops. I obviously misread the rules. I thought they would be O.K. as they were DYKs in January, but clearly some were ineligible as they were written in December '11.  Tigerboy1966  22:03, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

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No problem, my reviews can be short because I tend to sort out all minor problems with the article myself rather than waste time writing them up, but I understand why they might not be eligible for points Thanks. --He to Hecuba (talk) 07:56, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Submissions - WikiCup
No problem - but just one question related to that article: would a Pearl Jam studio albums GT be a valid submission in later rounds of the Cup? After all, I'm working to get all nine albums to GA status - and six would reach get there in 2012 (three were already GAs; this month I helped Pearl Jam and another pass; one is a current GAN; and I'll work on the other three eventually) igordebraga ≠ 02:37, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

North Pier, Blackpool
Hey J Milburn. I believe I (and Demiurge1000) have hit all the salient points on the GA review - do feel free to have another look! Cheers  WormTT   &middot; &#32;(talk) 12:05, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

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He to Hecuba blocked
A moment ago, I withdrew He to Hecuba on the grounds (s)he has been indef blocked, per the precedent of Racepacket and previous. Only afterwards did I realise that was really your/TheEd's prerogative, not mine. Sorry to both of you (I think he stalks this page, no?) for the mixup. Regards, - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 11:03, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've just removed him or her, as per WP:DENY. There's no need for them to stay in the competition. J Milburn (talk) 16:43, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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Yeah...this is hard.
So it took me a total of about 2 minutes to remember how Huggle worked. But to be completely honest, I feel like I've forgotten a lot of the stuff on Wikipedia that I used to know how to do. I look at my userpage for example and just see a bunch of code! I used to actually be able to read it. I'm honestly scared to edit/create pages now a bit for fear of forgetting how to actually do it correctly! :/-- White Shadows One eye watching you 22:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup
Hi. OK, I know that most likely I will be eliminated again, with 10 points (last year I had 7 pts, and came in 65 place, and as you can imagine, was quite irked) plus a GA nomination (2 pts) completed circa 12 minutes after the deadline of 23:59:59 UTC 26 February 2012. However, in the spirit of WikiCup, I'd just like to ask a few questions to clarify any ambiguities in the scoring process: I thank you for organizing and judging the WikiCup. Please keep me on the newsletter and let me know of any further developments such as updates to the process - maybe I'll set up a scoring table on my userpage to see how many points I could have gotten through improvements to articles - I remember last year there was a DYK hook shortage after round 1 closed! Thanks. ~ AH1 (discuss!) 00:35, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * If an ITN is nominated, and then pulled for article quality reasons, can a user score 10 points for bringing the article back up to par, leading the entry to be re-posted on ITN?
 * Can a participant score 2 points for a GAN review when another user decided to ask for a second opinion, or while another user is either reviewing or has put the article on hold - and does the GAN have to pass in order to score points?
 * Will future scoring opportunities be available for submitting an entry to the Spoken Wikipedia to include the article in that program?

Hi
I got a DYK at 00:03am today (27th Feb), does it still go in my submissions for round one? I noticed that Round 1 finished yesterday on the 26th but Round 2 doesn't start until 1st March? Aaron  &bull; You Da  One 00:37, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * No I'm not desperate for the points, I just wondered which round it should go in. So on March 1st, do our submissions get re-set? Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 13:43, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Lol okay. Thanks. Aaron  &bull; You  Da  One 13:56, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Copyright question
Can you weigh in on the copyright status for the photo in Featured picture candidates/NYPD Ford Crown Victoria? Multiple views have been expressed so I'm requesting comments from multiple people in an attempt to get a consensus. Thanks. <b style="color:#01796F;">Pine</b>talk 10:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2012 February newsletter
Round 1 is already over! The 64 highest scorers have progressed to round 2. Our highest scorer was, again thanks mostly to a swathe of good articles on The X-Files. In second place was, thanks an impressive list of did you knows about racehorses. Both scored over 400 points. Following behind with over 300 points were, , and. February also saw the competition's first featured list: List of colleges and universities in North Dakota, from. At the other end of the scale, 11 points was enough to secure a place in this round, and some contestants with 10 points made it into the round on a tiebreaker. This is higher than the 8 points that were needed last year, but lower than the 20 points required the year before. The number of points required to progress to round 3 will be significantly higher.

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The judges would like to point out two quick rules reminders. First, any content promoted during the interim period (that is, on or after 27 February) is eligible for points in round 2. Second, any content worked on significantly this year is eligible for points if promoted in this round. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which would otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk &bull; email) and The ed17 (talk &bull; email) 00:00, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

TIME SENSITIVE message re. CUP
I am withdrawing i.f.f. someone can take my place. Wikipedia_talk:WikiCup for details.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  00:13, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * I have added my name to the Wikicup list, and your replies were extremly helpfull! :) Mayhem  Mario  18:07, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Questions.
Hi, thanks for the review and comments at Poppy Meadow's FA nomination. Your comments were great, and made me wonder if I am good enough to edit articles! Some were such silly mistakes! Okay, is it okay if I ask some questions involving Wikipedia? I just came to you as your a fountain full of knowledge;
 * Can I, as a non-admin, review FA articles?
 * How do I, if I can, get involved in the WikiCup?
 * Can I, as a non-admin, review DYK submissions?
 * I have nominated these articles for GAR review, Bill & Peter's Bogus Journey (Review), Boys Do Cry (Review) and Brian Sings and Swings (Review). I have posted a notice about this GAR at WT:FG, are these articles no longer GA quality? Am I doing the right thing?
 * Yours Sincerly, MayhemMario
 * P.S. Thank-you very much for this! Mayhem  Mario  17:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi again! Can I ask another questions please?
 * On any GA, FA, GAR, can you fail an article for being too short? Like it is below 20 bytes for example. Once again, thanks Mayhem  Mario  12:52, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

New wtc.jpg
I am not going to bother disputing your removal of my uploads except for one: New wtc.jpg

First of all, I did not upload the original image, simply updated it. Both are from the same site. Second of all, it is non-replaceable. Photos of buildings are replaceable and you can create your own images of those by taking your own photos, I'll give you that, but computer generated images are not replaceable as they were professionally created by the company as a promotion. I can't just go into Paint and create the same detailed, professional work. How detailed do you need the rationales to be, as there is already one on the image. Cadiomals (talk) 18:24, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, as I was looking through some articles I came across this article, North by North Quahog, which is a featured article. However, are featured articles meant to have a citation needed tag? This quote: "Gibson was approached to voice himself but passed on it, which he later regretted because he enjoyed the episode.[citation needed]". Sorry for asking, just wondering. Many thanks, Mayhem  Mario  20:34, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hi J, I currently have the above up for WP:GAN and wondered if you could take a look. I am seeking a review, but failing that a thorough image check would be splendid! I have spent a great deal of time on the article and this will be my second visit to GAN. I would very much appreciate your thoughts on it. All the best -- Cassianto (talk) 02:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Cape cobra/GA1
Hey J, for what it's worth, the nominator is blocked as a sock--the sock of someone who can't leave snakes and GA reviews alone. For more context, see User talk:Sebastian80. Sorry, Drmies (talk) 15:47, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Hensley FAC
I've changed the fair use image on George Went Hensley, if you'd like to revisit the FAC. It's a shame there aren't any good free pictures of him out there, he was active in the 1910s and 20s, but lived in rural Appalachia, so I doubt there are extant photographs of him from that time. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:02, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * After a discussion on my talk page, the one of him preaching was re-added. Hope you don't mind. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:31, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Adamussium
Thank you for awarding Adamussium good article status. Your review was an instructive process. Some of what you call jargon is me trying to use the correct technical terms. If my source is an article the jargon of which I do not fully understand, it is not easy to translate the information into layman's terms without possibly distorting the meaning. Using the original terms prevents this but makes the article less understandable to the casual reader. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:48, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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Why is there a red link here ? I don't know how to correct it. Aaron  &bull; You Da  One 20:37, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
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Connie Talbot
I was going to update some things in Connie Talbot's article because it hasn't been for some time. I added her full name, how come you reverted it? Thanks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connie_Talbot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsklubb (talk • contribs) 17:55, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

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Some help again? Levellers
Hi! I've been over the thousand or so photos I uploaded and placed on musicians' articles over the years to add links for each the little link if they have categories in Commons, (which of itself still baffles the hell out of me). Would you take a look on Commons for the band, Levellers? It appears that two definition of that word needs some Commons disambiguation since the alternative rock band with that name doesn't seem to fit with the other stuff in the same Commons category with the same name. As always, I sure appreciate your help. With my ADD disorder, that kind of thing drives me crazy! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 18:12, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
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Hi, J! Could You please review Lure of the Temptress or maybe Steve Ince for GA? :) All the Best, -Khanassassin ☪ 18:59, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
 * OK --Khanassassin ☪ 19:53, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

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GA reviews
If you think the articles I reviewed are not eligible for the Cup you are welcome to discount them but I would point out that wading through Article 15 of the Constitution of Singapore and considering what, if anything, could be improved took an inordinate amount of time. In the case of Stresemann's Bushcrow, the nominator/author would not respond to my comments so I made several edits to the article to bring it up to scratch before I passed it. Anyway, you're the judge. :) Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:09, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That's OK. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 14:25, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Re:File source problem with File:ConnieTalbot2012.JPG
Thank you for you feedback regarding Connie Talbot's article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connie_Talbot. The photo's author Heidi McManus, Connie's brother's girlfriend, took the photo and sent it to me by e-mail and agreed for it to be shown on Connie Talbot's article and to be free-licensed. I'm not sure what license to put it under if the one I said isn't correct. About my other edits: Talbot's name, what sort of reliable source can I give for that? IMDB, or her official website? About a reliable source to Connie's single "Beautiful World", is the single's page on iTunes a good enough source? The thing is I am very new to Wikipedia, so please bare with me. Thank you so much. --Gsklubb (talk) 15:43, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 March newsletter
We are over half way through the second round of this year's WikiCup and things are going well! , of Pool B, is our highest overall scorer thanks to his prolific writings on television and film. In second place is Pool H's, thanks primarily to work on biological articles, especially in marine biology and herpetology. Third place goes to Pool E's, who also writes primarily on biology (including ornithology and botany) and has already submitted two featured articles this round. Of the 63 contestants remaining, 15 (just under a quarter) have over 100 points this round. However, 25 are yet to score. Please remember to update your submission pages promptly. 32 contestants, the top two from each pool and the 16 next-highest scorers, will advance to round 3.

Congratulations to, whose impressive File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg became the competition's first featured picture. Also, congratulations to, who claimed good topic points, our first contestant this year to do so, for his work on Featured topics/1982 Atlantic hurricane season. This leaves featured topics and featured portals as the only sources of points not yet utilised. However, as recent statistics from show, no source has yet been utilised this competition to the same extent it has been previously!

It has been observed that the backlogs at good article candidates are building up again. While the points for good article reviews will be remaining constant, any help that can be offered keeping the backlog down would be appreciated. On a related note, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk &bull; email) and The ed17 (talk &bull; email) 23:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Begging Your Pardon
There are numerous joke nominations like that of Methodism that have been created today. Anyone who is monitoring the page will know if anything is left open and needs closing. I even created one myself that I will be taking the liberty to personally close later. Heck, last year I even went to the Meta Wiki and proposed to move the servers to Canada, which people immediately picked up as a joke and played along with (notice I closed that right away on April 2). Things like this happen in the mainspace annually on this date, and I for one look forward to seeing what kind of funny little things will be said about articles like Life, Earth, and 2013 (that one last year) that warrants deletion for foolish reasons. There was no need to rush closure, it would have been closed within the end of the day. CycloneGU (talk) 17:55, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I know there are joke nominations every 1 April, and I know that they are tolerated. What should not and will not be tolerated is damage to the mainspace, and when we have bots forcing the templates onto highly-viewed articles because of the fact that the nomination is still open, we either have a problem with the bot or a problem with the nomination. I'm not blocking the bot for the sake of joke nominations, and nor should we leave the deletion notices all over legitimate articles. J Milburn (talk) 18:18, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the reason the bot puts it up is because the "nominator" forgot to do so. In my case, I tagged "Irony" and then created the discussion ass per norm.  It seems this "nominator" did not do so with "Methodism" and thus the bot thought it was doing the right thing.  I don't fault the bot, I more fault the fact that procedure was not properly followed.  If I remove the template from Irony while the discussion is still open, I would expect the bot to throw it back up.  Since the procedure was now complete, it could have been allowed to run for a few hours.  That's all I was suggesting. =)  CycloneGU (talk) 18:23, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * No, the nominator did tag the article, and it was rightfully removed; as yours was. If you want to be hilarious in the Wikipedia space, then so be it, there are worse things. But we cannot allow this crap to flow into the mainspace. You should not have tagged that article in the first place, and, if the bot starts placing the tag back, then I would hope that someone with a little more sense than you is willing to close/delete the "discussion". J Milburn (talk) 18:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It sounds like you and I have differing opinions of what should be allowed on April Fool's Day, so I will simply agree to disagree here. However, I was working in a completely controlled manner; I would have been removing the AfD template and closing the AfD myself had no one else interfered.  However, the scale that the jokes went to today caused an uproar that caused (rightfully) other editors to think the encyclopedia was being compromised.  In controlled circumstances, there is no damage done at all; in this case, editors tried to stop jokes but didn't stop them completely, and a bot got blocked because of it.  I even tag my jokes with the Humor template so everyone immediately sees it's an attempt to be funny, and I don't mean the AfD seriously; editors can then take part with humorous comments knowing the page is going to be kept regardless.  In short, while I agree that things went too far this year, I think certain editors need to lighten up and recognize that editors having a little fun aren't doing so to damage the encyclopedia - as they and anyone else participating would be standing by to revert everything later - but rather to give visitors something to chuckle about on the one day where doing so is actually encouraged.  The entire ruckus with the bot today was caused because editors refusing to "lighten up" got in the middle of the jokes and the bot's blocking wa sa result of this.  That's all, really.  And I'm already done for the day after I remove my historical box from my user page.  CycloneGU (talk) 18:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * You appear to have the mistaken belief that there is any kind of difference with what is and is not permitted on 1 April and 2 April. You may have been "controlled", but that's got nothing to do with anything- you were slapping unwarranted templates on mainspace articles "as a joke"- that's vandalism, as far as I can tell. I wouldn't have batted an eyelid if you were blocked. You don't seem to quite get this- have your "joke", whatever, I don't care. But stay out of the mainspace. There's no need for us to "agree to disagree", there is a need for you to start having some respect for the encyclopedia. (I have no knowledge of any bot being blocked; why you're telling me about it I have no idea.) J Milburn (talk) 19:27, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, disruption is not "actually encouraged" on 1 April. Every policy still applies, and moronic behaviour will still result in a block. J Milburn (talk) 19:29, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If you care not to have a sense of humour, that's your call then. Jokes have always been done in the mainspace since 2004, and I myself only started creating my own jokes just last year.  This is the first time I've heard any editors complain about it, particularly in a public forum like WP:AfD which has happened this year as it got out of hand (I agree with that, in fact).  As for suggesting I have no respect for the encyclopedia: that is completely false.  As I noted, something done in a controlled fashion can actually be humorous.  Something done recklessly, I completely agree, amounts to the equivalent of vandalism.  I have assisted with editing of pages in various places around the encyclopedia and have even had a hand in blocking editors who WERE valdalizing; I even angered one editor so much (by my following policy, in fact) that he vandalized my userpage.
 * So before suggesting I have no respect for the encyclopedia, I suggest you look at my contributions. I consider a statement like "you have no respect for the encyclopedia" to be a very offensive statement; you might as well try to convince me that I'm gay, because that's no more true than what you've already said.
 * I won't waste any more of my time here; it appears we will have to agree to disagree, and I'll end up saying something I will regret if I don't leave. CycloneGU (talk) 19:57, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If you want to leave, leave; I'm not keeping you here. I've said what I need to say, but don't come crying to me if you find yourself blocked next time you have a hilarious idea, no matter how "controlled" you assure everyone it is... J Milburn (talk) 20:26, 1 April 2012 (UTC)