User talk:MusikAnimal/Archive 17

Twinkle block/notice interface
Hi MusikAnimal, I've hit a number of "bugs" in the new interface. At first I figured I'd collect them (some of them I think went away), but I then realized I was forgetting them. So, at the risk of being a nag, I'm going to bring them to you as I see them.

Block notice template:
 * 1) If I click on sockpuppetry as the reason, it gives me a textbox to enter the duration. Even if I enter a duration, the notice produced says indefinitely. I like having the option of a limited duration as sometimes we don't block masters indefinitely.
 * 2) Don't remember if this still happens, but if I've already blocked the user for whatever for say 72 hours, it sticks the expiration time in the duration as a default rather than 72 hours. That produces a really weird looking notice.
 * 3) If I pick 3RR, it gives me a textbox for the article, whereas if I pick edit-warring, it does not. It should. Also, in the drop-down, the two options should be next to each other as they are obviously related.
 * 4) Block: It should come up with the standard default boxes checked. The regular block form does, and it's handy. I don't necessarily remember what they are and therefore don't want to use Twinkle for that reason.

That's it for now. Over and out.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:26, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the feedback! As follows:
 * A solution is currently being discussed at WT:TW. Basically the existing sockpuppetry block templates don't conform to WikiProject User warnings so Twinkle doesn't know how to set the duration.
 * Fixed. From what the API gives us, there's no good way to measure out the length of the block, so in this situation it's simply left blank. This would be the same behaviour you'd have with the old Twinkle.
 * Good catch! This will be fixed with the next deploy, along with the sockpuppet template stuff. I'm not sure about the ordering... right now it is done alphabetically which some would argue is easier to work with. Once you learn the 3RR preset is named "violating the three-revert rule" you'll be able to easily find it. This was one of the main issues I personally had with the options available at Special:Block. That is, I had to carefully read through them as it was often hard to find what I was looking for, even if I knew how it was worded. That being said, I'm considering making a tool to re-order the options as you please through Twinkle preferences.
 * This is intentional, but perhaps we could change the behaviour. If you select "generic block" it will supply the same options at Special:Block. Usually, though, you'll want to choose a preset that already includes the edit summary, and those presets have the accepted default options. Note also if you're reblocking, the options are set to what the current block has.


 * Keep the feedback coming! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:10, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. You're such a pleasure to work with.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:46, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Minor and quickly fixable bot bug
Your bot broke a section header here. You probably forgot to add some newlines. :-)—cyberpower  Chat:Online 21:13, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * LOL (in response to your previous comment and edit summaries.) :p—cyberpower  Chat:Online 21:31, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Haha yeah.. I thought I had fixed this, then when you messaged I thought maybe I just needed one more new line.. Anyway they were getting stripped, I was just putting the newlines in the wrong place =P Fixed as far as testwiki tests go, but those have failed me before. Cheers &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:42, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
 * That's why I test on the live versions instead. It truly shows what can go wrong and the environment for ideal testing is already set up.  I do keep my disruptions when testing to a minimum however.  My only exception was that I hogged RfPP for 2 hours by having it Template protected so I can find 2 serious bugs in peace that I wouldn't have otherwise found when testing in a sandbox.—cyberpower  Chat:Online 21:54, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

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hi...I know I come here often for the same reason, however if im not mistaken the link is down again, thank you --Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:45, 14 June 2015 (UTC) (added comment to village pump technical)thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 10:36, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

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User:99.99percent
If you look at this User's edits they are all inserts of factually in-correct info involving terrorism. I think we have a WP:VOA here. Either that or a new user who doesn't know what they are doing. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:35, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Please warn them sufficiently. We rarely block without first giving out a fair warning. Here I would issue all four levels of warnings before blocking. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:36, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, will do, just raises red flags though is all with the username. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

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Brooklyn Nets
Hey,

I understand your position, but it's the Wikipedia guidelines that suggest to link some of the articles to their city. It's not relevant if it's Brooklyn, Harlem or something. The old consencus is City, Country. So I'll revert your edits in order to follow those guidelines. BUT if you want to discuss that, we can go to Talk:Brooklyn Nets and I hope we'll find a consensus. Take care. Sabbatino (talk) 17:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! Although allow me to clarify that you're still missing my point. New York City isn't like other cities, we often have to treat the borough like a city. For instance, the address "120 Broadway" exists in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island. If the subject of an article was located there, we'd have to specify the borough. Following this logic, it's common as I've said to put the borough itself as the "city" even when it is not ambiguous. Harlem on the other hand is a neighborhood, not a borough, so surely should not be used to substitute New York City. I honestly don't care enough to debate about it, as I consider it trivial in this scenario as Brooklyn is already in the name of the subject itself. The important thing I want you to understand, however, is that when the IP made that change it was by no means "vandalism" and while subject to debate the edit was fully constructive. Thanks! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:47, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * To further elaborate and illustrate my point, in New York City the mailing address goes by the borough (and strangely in Queens by the neighborhood, but I digress). So if your address 123 Main St in Manhattan, you're address is "123 Main St, New York, NY", while if you lived in Brooklyn your address as far as the USPS is concerned is "123 Main St, Brooklyn, NY". Surely you can see if governing authorities treat boroughs as the city name it's logical to do the same here on Wikipedia, particularly when there is no established consensus (that I'm aware of) covering the grey area of New York City. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:55, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I totally failed with Harlem being a borough. That's what you get when you write something when you're completely tired and don't pay attention at what you're writing. But getting back to the topic, let's take New York Red Bulls as an example. They're called New York Red Bulls, but they are based in Harrison, NJ. Same goes to New York Islanders when they were playing in Uniondale, NY. It's a suburb of New York City, but the team was still called New York Islanders. You wrote: "Surely you can see if governing authorities treat boroughs as the city name it's logical to do the same here on Wikipedia, particularly when there is no established consensus (that I'm aware of) covering the grey area of New York City." Here's some logic – Detroit Pistons (based in Auburn Hills, MI which is a city near Detroit); Indiana Pacers, Minnesota Timberwolves, Utah Jazz (all three teams are named after their state); Golden State Warriors (team is named after California's nickname). I'm not trying to invent a bicycle or something, but just want to make it clear that no matter how your team is called, you can play anywhere you want. For example, there's a football (soccer) team in my country called FK Trakai and from their name it is clear that this team is from Trakai, but they play all their games in country's capital Vilnius. Sabbatino (talk) 08:46, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Akissforjersey
You will have to take the article located, User:The Cross Bearer/Akissforjersey, and move it to the main space because it has to be created by an administrator at Akissforjersey.The Cross Bearer (talk) 03:36, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Ha! Thank you :) Indeed we are on a roll as of late! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:58, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

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500 Mainspace edits and what else
The administrator has refused to give access due to my comment on his talk page. I was in a hurry, and the first edit was not made according to talk page standards. It's not that I don't know how to edit. I never imagined that this simple neglect will be taken so seriously. I thought he will only check my edit count. What i will do now, wait for another six months.?-- Cosmic   Emperor  17:46, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You should consult them about this. My role was to get xtools back up, which I did. I choose not to be involved any further. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:01, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Question
Just wondering why you declined the IP i reported? No reason was given. Koala15 (talk) 21:08, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was just trying to clean up the board and left my rationale in the edit summary, which was that the report was stale. At that point the IP hadn't edited in 12 hours. You said there were multiple IPs, did you want to report the others? Maybe semi-protection is better if they are all targeting the same pages? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:19, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Well its one IP that changes IP's. He/she have been vandalizing the same pages for several months. Koala15 (talk) 21:24, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Please list the affected pages and I'll be happy to take a look. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:30, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Its mostly "The Simpsons" pages. If you look at my contributions page you can see. Koala15 (talk) 21:36, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Help
Hello. Could you please semi-protect Jeremy Lamb and Luke Ridnour. They are both involved in unofficial sport transactions and are both getting a lot of IP edits and vandalism. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 14:47, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Jeremy Lamb was already semi'd but I've semi'd the other. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:03, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks very much! DaHuzyBru (talk) 15:04, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Talk page revocation
If you could be so kind to lose the talk page of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/90.197.8.15 as you carried out the block. I doubt they are the Chariman of Wikimedia if im honest. Amortias (T)(C) 16:46, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:05, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello from Compassionate727
It says you blocked 184.53.1.124, but he's still vandalizing his talk page. Not sure what the problem is. Compassionate727 (talk) 17:18, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Talk page access revoked &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:19, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

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X! tools
Hi, MusikAnimal. As I am sure you are aware, with the recent site ban of Technical 13 by ArbCom, there is one fewer person to help maintain the functionality of the various X! tools. Will you be stepping in the breach, or will you try to recruit another coder to assist you? FYI, the X! tools page history app is not currently working:. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:56, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * We are actively looking for several new maintainers, but as far as I know T13 is still with us, just not on-wiki. The revision history tool has been nonfunctional for a while now, and unfortunately we are unable to ascertain what the issue is. When we ran into this issue in the past it would eventually fix itself... none of us wrote the code and it is difficult to debug. Hence why we need more PHP developers, so we can do a full rewrite and ensure stability moving forward. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:59, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Hello from 65.223.38.50
Hi MusikAnimal,

I normally don't get involved in internet politics, but can you please clarify why the word "Nigger" needs to be pointed out as having a racist connotation?

In this context, I believe a simple hyperlink to the meaning of the word would be a better way of handling this. 65.223.38.50 (talk) 18:28, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I do not need to explain why this edit is inappropriate. It has nothing to do with the context in which you have put it. If you have legitimate concerns about the content of that article, please discuss them on the talk page. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:30, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like it has been discussed in depth here. Feel free to chime in with your thoughts &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:36, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

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Co-review Cross-country skiing
Hey MusikAnimal,

I have reviewed this article, my review is here. I am asking if you can review my review or review the article, of course only if you have time. My comments are on that page. Apologies for my inquiry as it doesn't rhyme or and is not the form of a haiku.

Cheers,  Lux ure Σ  12:54, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
 * With a purely competitive mindset, I wonder if this would count towards the upcoming GA Cup... :) If not, perhaps I could take this as a warmup before the event. Hopefully I'll get back to you soon. Busy as always, but if you don't hear from me within 24 hours it means I've forgotten and you should either remind me or seek another reviewer. Best! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:20, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Remarkable how the comment below came up 6 minutes later! If you can't not a problem, I will press yes on the day after the start of the new financial year (lol- 2 July). Always,  Lux ure Σ  04:18, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

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Review
Thank you for your review and feedback for my requesting to be a pending changes reviewer. I agreed and I think you are right. I'm learning everyday and always giving my best to improve the articles. I'll be asking again in the future. Anyway, thank you. GagaNutella (talk) 05:50, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Help!
Hello MusikAnimal! Info from I Killed My BFF (an article about a Lifetime (TV network) movie I originall authored) keeps getting removed by different IPs and new accounts without explanation, despite the fact that it's sourced info. You may remember this, because you reverted one of the earlier removals. Anyway, I'm not exactly sure what to do here... I don't want to revert again, as I suspect that it's possible that someone may be trying to lure me into an edit war. So, what's the next step?... I'd try discussing this, but as I said it's been a different IP or account reverting (all without edit summaries), all four times. Thanks in advance! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:18, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * If you don't know why the content is being removed, it's difficult to start a discussion on the talk page as you don't know what you're supposed to discuss. I've reverted the latest user and warned them. If this continues to happen, we'll have to opt for semi-protection, I suppose. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:39, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks MusikAnimal! And I am happy to report, this situation seems resolved now – made a follow-up edit to the article (with an explanatory edit summary) that I fully support.  --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:10, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Glad to hear it &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:11, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Delete redirect
Could you please help me delete the redirect Template:Momo Jimenez? (i moved that page to the article creator's userspace.) by the way that guy who created that page wanted to make it an article although it is about a fake person. (see their talk page)

"Inquiries that rhyme or are in the form of a haiku will be given priority." Sorry, I suck at poetry. --Fazbear7891 (talk) 15:36, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ the rhymes are optional and just for fun! I won't ignore anything :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:38, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Issues with reverting
Greetings! You've always been informative and able to help, so I was hoping you can give me your perspective on this. I'm currently working on an article, and just recently had a disruptive editor claiming all sorts of "wikipedia standards" to ensure the article fits their own vision (we are currently trying to get consensus on the talk page). I'm trying to handle this delicately with the user, but they are claiming that their edits fit a standard that I've been doing research on and can't seem to find. I'm finding this person's edits unconstructive and disruptive, and was hoping if you feel the same you may be able to intervene. Instant Gratification (Dance Gavin Dance album). The user in question is User:Andrzejbanas. Thanks! Garchy (talk) 15:57, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey, all you have to do is ask. This is the page where it says not to use that as a source. Not following the rules is considered vandalism and is to be removed. I've posted this on the said talk page as well. Hope this makes it clear! :) Andrzejbanas (talk) 15:59, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * For the record,, I can't stand The Needle Drop but was just trying to conform to what other editors had done with the article. My issue is also with the genre (which was matching the main Dance Gavin Dance article, (most genres on Wikipedia tend to go un-cited). Thank you for addressing the issue, we can keep TND out (now that I see the standard), but I did replace the genre to match the main article. Let me know if you have an issue with that and we can sort it out. Thanks! Garchy (talk) 16:03, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Judging by your talk pages it looks you have got it figured out. Glad to hear it! For the record, verifiability is a fundamental backbone of Wikipedia. Of course not everything is sourced, but when it is challenged or likely to be challenged we must cite sources or removal of the content is fully justifiable. WP:INTREF is my favourite place to send newcomers about this policy. Let me know if you need anymore help! Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:18, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, MusikAnimal, we were able to get this figured out! I appreciate your view/advice on the subject as well! Thanks, Garchy (talk) 16:44, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi protect
Could you please semi-protect Tiago Splitter. He is involved in a sports trade that is not official. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 16:00, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ The ole traderoo situation again. We should probably establish as standardized rationale for semi-protection. I went with 1 day since it hasn't been going on very long, but if it continues tomorrow, just let me know &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:13, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, cheers. It will likely take a few days until it is complete, it will do for now though. Thanks! DaHuzyBru (talk) 16:15, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Can DeMarre Carroll please be protected for the same kind of reason. He can not officially sign until July 8, so maybe a week? DaHuzyBru (talk) 16:33, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * This one has a longer history of disruption, so I went with 4 days. I'm a stickler about the duration... it's just simply the philosophy that we don't protect preemptively, instead going by what's already happened. Anyway same situation, you can always re-request as needed :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:40, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:49, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

US spelling vs the rest of the English-speaking world
My corrections to Canadian spelling conventions in the article on Émile Nelligan. British English doesn't hold just for the UK, but all of the Commonwealth and ex-Commonwealth (eg Zambia, South Africa, India). You argue that British English is justified if the topic is British, and US English if American. The same argument holds for all Commonwealth countries. Canadian spelling conforms for the most part to so-called British English spelling conventions. The same can also be said for Australian, New Zealand, the Republic of Ireland, and English-speaking Africa and Asia. Dextrase (talk) 14:43, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hello from Priyadarshivishal23
is amazon.com/ ebay/flipcart wiki pages are the result of G11 Guideline. if no how these pages are available on wiki.If Yes then Priyadarshivishal23 (talk) 04:46, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you were asking. Ebcwebstore.com was deleted because it appeared to serve only to promote the subject, and also it was a blatant copyright violation. See your talk page for more details on that. As a general rule, try to stick to the facts and disregard opinions and peacock terms, and most importantly, use your own words. If you feel Amazon.com and other articles are also promotional or lacking neutrality, we should take time to address those concerns. If you'd like to make another attempt at Ebcwebstore.com, I recommend using the article wizard so that you can submit the article for review. Other experienced editors will help you refine it and ensure it meets our policies and guidelines. Hope this helps! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:46, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

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Could you revert Indo-Pakistani War of 1947?
There seems to be a few edit wars going on. To stop things getting out of hand, once/if it gets protected could it be reverted back to the original state? Thanks, Ana <font color="#29851C">r <font color="#35BA22">chyte  09:09, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ✔️ by &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  15:08, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi protect
Hey, another semi protect request for you. Mo Williams, for same reasons as before. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 16:43, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * All set &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:45, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Sweet, thanks a lot! DaHuzyBru (talk) 16:50, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Nicholas McDonald
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Hi MusikAnimal, could you take a look at the recent history at and restore semi-protection? - NQ (talk)  13:54, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thank you &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:48, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * One more. List of The X Factor finalists (UK series 10). Revdel all contribs by  - NQ  (talk)  18:40, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Just noticed that the IP had already been reported to AIV. Rev-del'd and blocked by - NQ  (talk)  19:17, 6 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry for being a bother, but now targeting On the Run Tour (Beyoncé and Jay Z), The Mrs. Carter Show World Tour and List of The X Factor finalists (UK series 10). Requires deletions and semi-protection. Hopping IP ranges. - NQ (talk)  21:54, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I think we're all set. I didn't semi-protect List of The X Factor finalists (UK series 10) as there was only one IP involved there and they've been blocked. The rest I went with 2 days semi and revdel'd where necessary. And don't worry, you're not bothering. It's greatly appreciated that you are sp on top of this situation &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  22:34, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! List of The X Factor finalists (UK series 10) - vandalized again by . Another page that has been targeted for well over a year is Answerphone (song) - more than half the revision history needs to be revdel'd. - NQ (talk)  17:01, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * All done, I think... we might have to resort to an edit filter for this. It's been ongoing, and across many pages. I'll keep you informed &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:18, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Cluepon
No, don't worry, I'm not giving you one (you don't need it :) ) You asked about it though.  It's a custom template based on Isiah Mustaffa's Old Spice Commercials,  it's specifically directed at vandals.   I don't give it out to every vandal I find, just specific cases, I.E: Vandal repeatedly vandalized the same page after being warned typically I'd use it in that case on 3RR,  or if the vandal's been warned by others and they're vandalizing the same page over and over, I'll put one on.    KoshVorlon  We are all Koshundefined  17:53, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * When I YouTube'd the commercial I see the reference, and it's humour :) but still question its usage as apparently it's rather obscure outside Americans with cable television. Anyway... not inherently wrong or anything, just my 2 cents! Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:57, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Headed to the NYC meetup Wednesday?
I'd love to grab a drink with you. Cheers, E. Lee (talk) 15:10, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * It's Wednesday, July 8th, no? This would be my debut wiki event... not sure why I've put them off for so long now, but you reaching out to me personally makes it tempting! I'm going to with "possibly attending". It's unclear to me exactly what we will be doing. Have you been to one of the WikiWednesdays before? What should I expect? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:36, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * - sounds good! This would be my second time attending. I attended last month's, but only knew about it a few minutes beforehand (I was in the building at the time). It's what actually made me decide to get back into the Wikimedia project again <tt>:^)</tt>. Last time, a few people talked about projects they were working on, and there was a really good talk (I forget who) by an editor who basically took the state of photos of candy/treats and video game consoles and made them what they are today. I sort of treated it as a meet and greet, and got to meet some cool people then. could probably tell you more, given he organizes them. E. Lee (talk) 16:31, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, it would be awesome to have you join us - it is basically a meet-and-greet, and a sharing of wiki and offline projects, especially sugar-filled ones! I'd also invite you, if you like, to sign up to give a 5 minute lightning talk to the group on any wiki-related subject.  Also, did I neglect to mention the pizza and video games?--Pharos (talk) 18:43, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * can't be there this time, but I'd like to encourage you to join us for pizza and video games anyway, and we we can catch up with him at the next one. If you like, we can all talk beforehand (by phone or in person), and maybe you and he might like to take charge of the Wikipedia Takes Manhattan wiki-photography hunt this year.  Also, you can see 's lightning talk!--Pharos (talk) 17:18, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm convinced! A shame Elee can't make it but still am looking forward to meeting you all at my first wiki event, including kind folks like . Photography happens to be my new favourite hobby, and I love exploring Manhattan, so naturally a photo hunt sounds like a lot of fun! When would this event take place? I'm a busy guy so don't want to commit to leading it just yet. Thanks for reaching out to me &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  21:05, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Awesome! The wiki photo hunt is planned for the weekend of October 17-18, though we'll have to do significant preparation ahead of time.--Pharos (talk) 21:08, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
 * See you there. I will be there    a little on the early side.   DGG ( talk ) 00:25, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * And now Elee is back on too! --Pharos (talk) 17:57, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Apologies for missing out last night! I was looking forward to meeting you all but another affair arose at the last moment. We will be in touch and I hope to make it out next month. One day I will finally meet some wiki colleagues! ;) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Too bad. We had a pleasant and stimulating evening with old friends and new. My talk on photography was kindly received, especially the part about geotagging and categorizing. Maybe that's because so many librarians were there. And I ate too much good pizza. Jim.henderson (talk) 15:49, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello from 94.74.214.249
Hello Dear MusikAnimal. You´re delete "Draft:Tomas Bouda" page, because text in this page was copy from original artist websites. But this text was released under license Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported and GNU Free Documentation License, so I don´t know where is the problem? Email on permissions-en@wikimedia.org was send immediately, after publish the page. Thank you for your info. Best regards.

94.74.214.249 (talk) 12:05, 10 July 2015 (UTC) 10.9.2015 Jacob
 * There is no licensing information within the source, so under the Berne Convention we have to assume it is copyrighted. If the OTRS team is able to verify that the text is available under a free license, they will contact me or another administrator and we will restore the draft article in its entirety. Sorry for the inconvenience, this procedure is purely for legal reasons. Thanks! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:14, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes I understand thank you. Emails to release copyrights were allegedly sending yesterday, so maybe takes some time to execute everything..? Thanks and have a nice day. 94.74.214.249 (talk) 14:50, 10 July 2015 (UTC) 10.7.2015 Jacob

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Clarification Request
MusikAnimal, the article on Seeman has been a matter of dispute for quite some time now, some youve been involved in, the most persistent of which seems to be the persons first name. Recents edits were made adding more references substantiating the persons first name which are being repeatedly removed and being called vandalism. There have been many discussions made in the talk page regarding this matter which have gone no where. Arguments for removing the first name seem a expect a copy of a passort/birth certificate so as to add a first name, quoting reasons like "printing mistake", majority of sources dont mention first name etc. I just wanted some clarifications so as to be more aware before making future edits. When making changes to articles on living persons, are articles from news papers not enough? Do we need passport or birth certificates? Is that the usual policy of wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:641:101:B1B8:FC91:BD8F:7387:E448 (talk) 22:56, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, newspapers are generally considered reliable sources, however with this article it seems it is a matter of content dispute rather than verifiability. In such case, if consensus is unable to be reached on the talk page, seek dispute resolution. I have semi-protected the page as it appears the edit warring is being carried on by anonymous users, including yourself. This is not a means to disregard your opinion or favour the other editors' version of the article. This is merely to be a stop to the edit warring. Edit wars are disruptive and make Wikipedia look bad. This is supposed to be a collaborative environment where editors work together to determine what is best for the reader. Please continue to use the talk page to discuss matters. Hope this helps &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  03:06, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your kind attention. If newspapers are reliable sources, there shouldnt be any dispute here. The initial reversion of the name was the source of the edit war. I dont have the slightest faith in going back to the talk page with the other user so I will seek dispute resolution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:641:101:B1B8:6CD3:17C6:21A:CF1E (talk) 03:41, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Tech News: 2015-29
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Recent changes
 * You can now see a list of pages with errors in code coloring.

Problems
 * There was a problem with editing on Thursday. Some tools like bots and VisualEditor were broken on all wikis for 10 minutes.
 * There was a problem with images on Thursday. They were broken on all wikis for 15 minutes.

Changes this week
 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 14. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 15. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 16 (calendar).

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Book of Ruth
MusikAnimal, thanks for protecting the article. I just want to clarify something about the content of the article that's causing monthly removal. Since it's a biblical article, and religious editors and viewers will find it offensive...Interpretation of Book of Ruth Lesbianism has been removed constantly mostly by IPs. My main concern is...if I add and expand the ideal of Homosexuality concerning the article...most likely the IPs will return to revert after protection is over. So any advice for future blankers of content? — JudeccaXIII (talk) 19:24, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Does it really need to be expanded? We should try to find a happy medium amongst the other editors and the interests of the encyclopedia. As I've told the anonymous user above, I think dispute resolution is needed here as many of you seem so divided about the content. I would recommend seeking help at the dispute resolution noticeboard. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:39, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Signing in articles edit filters
Hey MusikAnimal. Just going through some edit filters to trim back ones we might not need since we're hitting the cap once again. Just wondering if there isn't some redundancy between Special:AbuseFilter/613 and Special:AbuseFilter/623? They seem to catch most of the same edits. Thanks, Sam Walton (talk) 00:25, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey! 613 is a good-faith filter to inform new users about signing in articles. 623 was created to target some vandal, but after seeing how good it was at preventing vandalism in general (with a very low false positive rate, last I checked), the author kept it as-is. For the same reasons, 613 also catches a lot of vandalism, but there are good faith edits in there ( for example), so it should not disallow. That being said they sort of serve different purposes, but you may wish to rename 623 to remove the ambiguity or even combine it into another filter with similar restrictions.Just FYI, I was planning on merging Special:AbuseFilter/689 into Special:AbuseFilter/614, but it needs some tweaking before it can be fully disallowed. I'll try to get to that ASAP. And on that note, as much as you work with filters I have to ask: Are you familiar with debuggex? This is for me an invaluable tool when updating/combining filters and ensuring you still target the right kinds of edits. You can add unit tests to your debuggex, and when you go back to add more regex it will tell you if you've broken something the regex used to catch. This one is an extreme example but you get the idea. Make sure to use the PCRE regex engine. Cheers &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  00:39, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You know, I think I've asked you about 613 and 623 before now that I think about it, sorry :) That merge makes sense, and yeah, Debuggex has been invaluable in learning regex, absolutely couldn't have done as much as I have without it! Sam Walton (talk) 00:51, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Ant-Man (film)
The protection, that you put on this page, recently expired and the unconstructive IP edits have already returned. This is an imminent high-profile release and as such attracts lots of disruptive editors. Can you please re-add the protection for an extended period of time? Thank you.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 10:51, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Doesn't look too out of hand just yet. Of course feel free to request at WP:RFPP for another admin to review &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:24, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

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"List is clear" in MusikBot's edit summaries
Hi, I've noticed your bot reports that the "list is clear", which is - I assume - to say that all requests have been answered, though they may have not yet been archived. Could this be reworded to avoid confusion? Alakzi (talk) 17:43, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure! I was going by 's convention. Should we go with simply "0 open requests remaining", or is there better wording? &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:45, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. :-) Alakzi (talk) 18:37, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I've omitted to say, thanks for MusikBot. Would this be the first Wikipedia bot written in Ruby? Alakzi (talk) 14:52, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It's been a lot fun developing it. I'm not aware of other Ruby bots, but there is the mediawiki-gateway Ruby gem which leads me to believe there was at least someone using Ruby out there. That library is badly out of date, however. My fork is up to date with API changes and adds the strangely omitted "edit" functionality... The original gem had only "create" so you could only overwrite a page entirely! Anyway, I hope the bot helps puts Ruby on the map :) Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  15:37, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello from 108.38.94.236
I do not know how this works - please contact me. Mark: info@modelmugging.org Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.38.94.236 (talk) 19:11, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Another useful script
Hi, User:Mr. Stradivarius and User:MusikAnimal.

Please see:


 * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation

Could the spamscripts you've made be modified to do this?

Best,

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:38, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Good idea! Replying there &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  22:43, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

User:MusikAnimal/spamublock
Thanks again for the tool. I still use it all the time. Would it be possible to change the message the editor sees when he tries to edit? Instead of the giant uw-spamublock message, I would like it to simply say "Please see your talk page for a full explanation." That way I could use User:Anna Frodesiak/Cuw-soa-block at their talk page. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:53, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Spamublock is by convention a templated block, but I can make it so that you can change the block message. What if I made it look for Special:MyPage/spamublock-message that would supply the block message, and if it is not present it would use the default uw-spamublock message. That you could make it say whatever you want, and could even have shown directly when they try to edit rather than "see your talk page". How does that sound? &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  14:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


 * That would be perfect! I've created User:Anna Frodesiak/spamublock-message. So, could that now become the template they see when they try to edit and also the talk page template? Many thanks.


 * By the way, I like your tool because I can use it exclusively for promo username and promo edits at userpage and Mr. Strat's tool for non-promo username and promo edits at userpage. I don't have to go selecting this and that at Mr. Strat's. I just have two, super-convenient links right at the top of my topmost box (tooxbox), which Mr. Strat made to sit above all other boxes. This all saves me countless hours. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:07, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Awesome! I've been meaning to give Mr Strat's a try, as it certainly more comprehensive than mine! I will get my script updated tonight (EST) and will ping you when it's ready. Cheers &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  22:30, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * All set, I think! I moved your User:Anna Frodesiak/spamublock-message to User:Anna Frodesiak/spamublock-reason, though, as I realized that's the more correct terminology. I tried the script out on testwiki and all went well, so you should have no issues here on enwiki - but do let me know otherwise! Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  02:56, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That's fantastic! I'll give it a whirl on my test account to be safe. I can't thank you enough. :) :) :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:05, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 21. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from July 22. It will be on all Wikipedias from July 23 (calendar).
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Rollback confirmation
Hi MusikAnimal, I recently added the script at User:MusikAnimal/confirmationRollback to my common.js, I tested it but didn't see the popup asking if I'm sure I want to perform the rollback. Stanleytux (talk) 16:37, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * What browser/operating system are using? I just tested it out and it worked for me. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:48, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I thought the script was universal but its ok, I can handle it without the confirmation. Can I leave edit summaries like on Twinkle? Stanleytux (talk) 16:56, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "universal"? If you tell me what browser/OS you're using I can try to make it work for you. I actually think for desktop I might add the ability to enter a custom edit summary. For mobile this might be adverse, as in the heat of rolling back vandalism one might accidentally clear out the edit summary (at least from my own experience) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  17:15, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * No problem, glad we got it sorted out. &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:50, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, and of course, thanks for the barnstar! :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  18:54, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi
Semi for Kelly Oubre Jr. please, same reasoning as before. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 19:19, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like it's a single vandal since the last protection expired, so I've blocked them. If disruption expands to multiple users we can reconsider semi-protection. Best &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  19:23, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah was actually going to suggest that. Appears the better option. Thanks! DaHuzyBru (talk) 19:27, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

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Lil Wayne
Hi there, I think you mistakenly made a circular redirect at [Lil Wayne]]. I couldn't revert it myself as apparently the page contains blacklisted links. -- Non-Dropframe   talk   16:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * This was because of a very nasty bug in the closeAFD script! I am going to report that now. Thank you! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  16:44, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * You can now edit pages linked in "what links here" more easily.

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 * There was a problem with some Lua modules on July 22 and 23. Some pages using them did not list them in "what links here". You can fix those pages with a null edit: edit and save the page without making any change.
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Bot Approval
Quick not to let you know that I have approved Bots/Requests for approval/MusikBot 2. Enjoy!  ·addshore·  talk to me! 12:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you!! &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  14:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello from 72.238.64.45
I'll do what I want. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.238.64.45 (talk) 17:59, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Tozex
Hi Musik. You are kind of like my go-to admin for help, so sorry to trouble you again. Anyway, please take a look at Draft:Tozex. I was told by the creator that A7 does not apply to draft articles. He is right, but I wonder whether there could be any snowball call on this? I have not been able to find any information online which will attest to the subject's importance. If CSD is not applicable, I am already ready to PROD it. May I have your opinion, please? Optakeover (Talk)  19:11, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I actually talked this over with some other admins as there are a lot of questions about drafts with no clear answers. First off, I don't think A-criteria apply to drafts, as they are intended to be a work in progress so we don't want to speedy delete them - instead allowing time to improve whatever is wrong with them. G-criteria do apply, including G11 (unambiguous advertising). However for G11 considerable leeway should still be given, as it is a draft and the user may not know how to construct a neutral, non-promotional article. For this reason I would would first tag drafts like this with to encourage them to go through the articles for creation process. If they realize the article was not meant to be, the draft will be procedurally deleted after 6 months. Non-AfC drafts are a different story, but either way I think you can nominate any page under miscellany for deletion. So if there's no chance whatsoever a draft will survive in the mainspace, and the user is persistent on leaving the draft article up and not going through AfC, I would go consider miscellany for deletion. Otherwise do try to work with them and explain the issues, rather than jump to deleting something they just spent time creating. Hope this helps! &mdash;  MusikAnimal  talk  19:49, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comment. Optakeover  (Talk)  19:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC)