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Request your support in publishing official page
Hi Orangemike, I have drafted the content for Wikipedia profile and I request you to guide me or support me to publish the content with Wikipedia. I can share the drafted content with you for reviewing before publishing the same in Wikipedia. Kindly request you to revert back with the positive comments. Thanks M SankarSankarM2 (talk) 19:32, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
 * (talk page stalker) We don't do profiles. We want well-sourced encyclopaedia articles that dispassionately summarise what those sources say. We also don't do official pages. You would not be able to dictate the page's content if it were a Wikipedia article. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 23:46, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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A blocked editor
In April you blocked Block based programmer and they seem to have changed their username. There is currently an IP who is editing Alexander Repenning and is probably the same person. There has been a request for page protection for that article but that seems inappropriate seeing that it is the single IP which is making the problematic edits. Please can you help. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:33, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Closes
Hi Mike, you deleted articles as a result of this AfD, and this one. It looked like it had been a couple of hours since you deleted the articles, but neither discussion had been closed. So I procedurally closed both and tagged you. Hope you don't mind.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 10:54, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Ray Bodiford black-and-white photo.pdf
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DYK nomination of Robert M. Briggs
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Oscar (dog)
Hi OrangeMike,

Thanks for your feedback. I have been in contact with a couple of other wiki editors, who likewise flagged the COI issue. I have since declared the COI on my user page. The article itself was written by a third party on my behalf so as to be very careful about any unconscious bias, and I believe it qualifies for Wikipedia submission. This was the same procedure that was followed for the Pigcasso page that was recently also published.

Please recommend if there is anything else I need to do in order to get Oscar published.

Many kind regards,

Joanne

Joanne Lefson (talk) 11:36, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Organized labour project
Thank you for earlier joining the Organized Labour project. I've been a participant in the project since 2006 and am helping with a revival of it. As part this we are introducing a new membership system, which will help with communications among participants. This involves creating a membership file for each participant within your user space (you can see an example of my membership card here: User:Goldsztajn/WikiProjectCards/WikiProject Organized Labour). This system is already in operation within a number of wikiprojects (such as Women in Red and Medicine). You will not have to do anything, myself or someone else from the project will create the relevant file within your userspace. However, I am conscious that it is not polite to change an editor's userspace without notice. If I don't hear from you in the negative, I will go ahead with making the change by the end of the month. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Many thanks for supporting the project, in solidarity, --Goldsztajn (talk) 04:28, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amir Cyrus Ahanchian
I am following the directions on WP:DRV which advise attempting to discuss a deletion with the closer. The bio was deleted in December 2010 due to lack of notability. I believe this to have been a mistake due to the number of sources found on A Google search using the term ahanchian vs xenon some of which date back to November 2010. Please could you tell me if you were aware of these sources at the time of deletion? Amirah  talk  05:46, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 * So what? None of the coverage of this lawsuit constitutes any addition to Ahanchian's own notability. An assertion of notability is based on coverage of the subject, not of the subject's works, lawsuits, relatives, investments, etc. See WP:BLP1E. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  12:55, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

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UTRS 46944
would benefit from your opinion. Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 11:41, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Dean Graziosi
Hi Orangemike! Since you SALTed Dean Graziosi many moons ago, I thought you might be interested in the new article Dean Graziosi (Author). Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 22:12, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

New message from Narutolovehinata5
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IP evading block
If 171.76.230.197 is evading a block then I think 171.76.225.212 is as well. See this edit which is the same thing 171.76.230.197 was doing. Notfrompedro (talk) 18:37, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

, I noticed the same thing. It appears to be a whole more than these two accounts, as I have caught several users trying to spam the same thing. I have also requested that the link that they are spamming gets blacklisted.  ProClasher 9 7  ~  Have A Question?  23:44, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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FYI - impersonator blocked
Please see User talk:Orangemike Textiles and Carpets. Cullen328  Let's discuss it  16:53, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Good Call
I just saw this. Thank you for making that nab & to think the account has existed for 5 years. Celestina007 (talk) 22:39, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

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Unsigned message posted at top of page
Hello, Orangemike. I will no longer be financially supporting or using Wikimedia thanks to you. It is my opinion that you operate in bad faith on this site. I've been browsing and reading Wikipedia since approximately 2006. If Wikimedia considers you worth of the accolades listed on your page, it is no longer a source I consider worth reading or supporting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerjax (talk • contribs) 04:21, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

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Possible block evasion
Hey Orangemike,

I just came across these edits: 1, 2, 3. I see that you recently blocked what I suspect was the original account.

Will leave this one with you to look into further. — Manti  core  10:24, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
 * And here's another one...  Angry Harpy   talk 11:12, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your diligent COI discovery and reporting. Because of it, it looks like we're going to get rid of a six year old hoax. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:18, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

Airplane! revert
Hi, I saw your revert at Airplane! but the edit didn't look like nonsense to me, they are all notable actors in the film. I was going to restore it until I saw that user was just blocked, and you appear to have alot of experience so I thought it best to double check first if there was something I'm missing Strangerpete (talk) 22:36, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
 * They just threw some names onto the page at random. If you read the article as a whole, you will see that those folks are all named in appropriate places during the course of the article. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  22:38, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Username blocks
I've only somewhat recently started using the warning template for COI usernames, but have noticed many of the users being blocked for username violation shortly after the warning (like some minutes ago). Does that template automatically add the user to some kind of category that caused you to look at them, or is it coincidence that patrolling admins noticed the same user as I did? And either way, thanks for your efforts.&#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 19:36, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed, the template automatically throws them into Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues, a category which I monitor when I'm around. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  20:02, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Guess there's really no such thing as coincidence, eh? Thanks for the answer.&#32;-- Fyrael (talk) 20:27, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Lack of Due process on Multiple Chemical Sensitivity talk page
Orangemike, thanks for reaching out. I am trying to understand what is going on on the aforementioned page. I have been trying to add constructive edits on the MCS page, which includes appropriate discussion on the talk page, and citations. These are immediately struck down and usually involve attacking the quality of the citation and/or discussion. The page has a heavy bias and I am trying to bring both sides of the discussion to the table. I don't want to jump straight to flagging with the Neutral Point of View notice board, but everything I try is being quashed, in particular by 2 users. What do I do?Silliestchris (talk) 19:37, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Robert M. Briggs
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Thanks for the correction to the 1917 Canadian federal election page
Hi, Orangemike. Thanks for the correction to the entry for the Non-partisan League that you made on the 1917 Canadian federal election page. There's obviously a problem with the template for party colours - it shouldn't be linking to the article on the North Dakota League. It should be linking to the article on the Alberta League, so I've raised the issue on the Canadian Notice Board. I tried to send you an alert, but I'm not sure if I've done it correctly - I am not very technically skilled. Could you post here if you got the alert? Thanks. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * No prob. I'm just going through the federal elections articles, refreshing my limited Yank knowledge of Canadian history. (My color is a coincidence, although I certainly would be a hard-core NDP/CCF voter if I were Canadian.) -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  18:38, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Glad the message worked.  Earl Andrew already fixed the template, and the 1917 table.  (My technical skills are abysmal.  The only computer science class I took used punch-cards.  It was a big day for me when I fugred out how to do tables here on WP.  :) ) Enjoy your wanderings in Canadian election results.  Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 19:13, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

In answer to your question...
...here, the Wildrose Independence Party of Alberta did not run any candidates in the 2021 federal election because it is not a federal party. It is a provincial party in Alberta, and there was no provincial election in Alberta in 2021. Likewise, the People's Party that voted to dissolve was not the People's Party of Canada (which did, as you note, run almost a full slate of candidates in the 2021 federal election), but the People's Party of Alberta, which did not run any candidates in the 2021 federal election, because i. it was not a federal party, and ii. it has dissolved. Unlike in the United States, federal and provincial parties in Canada are generally completely separate entities, even when the federal and provincial parties have the same name. I hope that clarifies things. Steve Smith (talk) 19:45, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * For your own interest, the approximate federal equivalent to the WIPA is the Maverick Party (though they are not formally linked to one another), though it seems to attract much less support than does the WIPA; I gather that many voters who support the WIPA at the provincial level support the People's Party, or even the Conservatives, at the federal level. Steve Smith (talk) 19:48, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * My understanding of that sort of thing is limited by my provincial U.S. background, where the ties are tighter. I hope I haven't messed up anything; feel free to undo or modify my edits to create a clearer understanding and increase the percentage of mandatory Canadian content. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  20:47, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

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Need help with Deleting an Article
Hi @Orangemike, I would like to ask for assistance in deleting the article Patrick Maher (writer). There are several problems with the article. First of all, I know this man in person and he is one of my clients and we are connected professionally. Now about the article, the article has full of false/misguided information about a book that he wrote and published. Which is damaging his impression. Most of the citations were promotional articles and now only 2-3 of the links are live, all others are deleted. The article was nominated for deletion for two times and also a CSD A7 was asked against the article by other editors in different times. But somehow it survived. So what do you suggest me and my client to do. He doestn't want the article about him on Wikipedia. I need your assistance to delete the article. Can you please help us deleting the article? N:B:We can provide all the necessary documents to prove that Patrick Maher by himself is asking the deletion of this article(Just ask for it). Thanks and regards. --Simplewikipedian (talk) 04:38, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't see any disclosure on your userpage for your connection to Maher.
 * Like User:DGG, I don't much care what the subjects of articles have to say about themselves, with the very important exception of corrections of false references and demonstrable misinterpretations. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  14:34, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Use the BLP talk page and not mine... Okay?
2600:1700:7610:41E0:F4D6:7891:6D27:C200 (talk) 18:38, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure; perfectly reasonable request. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  18:41, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

You are both reasonable and helpful. I took exception to his reasoning. Sorry you saw a colder side to me. Have a blessed day.2600:1700:7610:41E0:F4D6:7891:6D27:C200 (talk) 19:36, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Bavarian Internatiol School
Yes im sorry about that, a friend of mine had aceses and did this little edit. He has a very unfortley bad history with this school, this will never happen again (sorry for my bad spelling im from sweden) I love potatos (talk) 11:59, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

Wont happen again
Wont happen again, nice swedish I love potatos (talk) 05:42, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

El Polimata
Hi Orangemike, I'm writing you regarding the page El Polimata, which you protected from being created because of repeated non-notable re-creations. I noticed during NPP that someone has written a decently sourced article under a different title El Polimata (artist); the subject now appears notable. It would be appropriate to move the article to the non-disambiguated title. Could you lift the protection to enable the move? Best, Modussiccandi (talk) 22:18, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ but it's still a rather weak stub. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  13:08, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Reference Removal
Hi, I saw two messages you left on User talk:Atlantisandlemuria. The 2021 in archaeology reference removal was a damage to content. I am not going to start arguing with this user, because I know it will be useless. Every edit made by this user has been negative. Please just stop/ban/remove this user, whatever it takes., before they set fire to the barn. Thanks. Ode+Joy (talk) 21:08, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If you examine things closely, you will see that they have stopped editing since I gave them that second message. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  03:05, 10 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Let us hope they will go away. Thanks. Ode+Joy (talk) 10:27, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Christopher Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
Hi, I am checking some older talk page protections. The whole thing got a lot more messy and confusing, because I didn't realize I was pinging people, and I'm sorry for that. Anyway, Talk:Christopher Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley is still protected and I wanted to know if you already considered the matter, so that I can consider it dealt with, or you just missed it because of the above mentioned mess. I'm rechecking the list from time to time, so if you decide to remove the protection feel free to ignore this message and get back to your regular wiki activity. Thanks and sorry again for the disturb. 176.247.159.174 (talk) 18:18, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

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Draft:Test Wikipedia
Hello, Orangemike,

I don't see how you could find this brief description of Test Wikipedia as advertising or promotional. It's about another Wikimedia project. Liz Read! Talk! 00:28, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The text was such gibberish that I assumed it was a hoax of some kind. Restored. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  00:44, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Elevate Oral Care Page
Hi Orangemike, A constructive moderator and editor would remove or alter comments they deemed marketing (the statement you highlighted is not marketing, by the way) rather than deleting the entire page. If you feel those comments are marketing, I encourage you to disprove the statement in a constructive manner. Spardue13 (talk) 13:13, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * On Wikipedia, solutions are mixtures and nothing else. The entire tone was promotional in tone and laden with marketing jargon. Nothing could be salvaged. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  13:23, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * But how kind of the user to encourage you, Orangemike! Bishonen &#124; tålk 16:37, 28 October 2021 (UTC).
 * The arrogance of a confessed promoter in demanding that we fix his advert is what gets to me. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  17:06, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Exactly. Admins are unpaid volunteers, like all editors here, Spardue13. Take a look at WP:PAYTALK: "No editor should be expected to engage in long or repetitive discussions with someone who is being paid to argue with them." Bishonen &#124; tålk 17:26, 28 October 2021 (UTC).
 * It's not arrogance, it's asking for substantiation (or help if you were so inclined). If you don't want to engage in discussions, you're welcome to disengage. I'm not keeping either of you here.Spardue13 (talk) 17:31, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

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In case you were interested … AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 01:16, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

The Iyo-farm
Mike,

the user The_Iyo-farm and the revision in dispute, e.g. weren't me. It's a bogus account set up to discredit the changes in the article.

I'm presuming by the warring user, Psychologist Guy.

I'd like you check the IPs, confirm this for yourself, & take action appropriately.

Disagreements with content is one thing, but setting up bogus accounts to discredit another is too much.

Thanks. --Iyo-farm (talk) 15:25, 4 November 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.212.43 (talk)

I've just been accused of being Iyo-Farm myself. Seems one particular contributor is keen to silence or discredit any others. (I lost access to WhalesFromWales, so I'm now MoreWhalesFromWales.) --MoreWhalesFromWales (talk) 15:38, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Orangemike, I can confirm that MoreWhales is Whales, and they've also edited as an IP. See my recent log for some CU blocks that may be relevant to you. Drmies (talk) 15:52, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I am convinced that Whales is Iyo-farm, I filed an SPI about this . In regard to the Vegan Society talk-page is there anyway it can be protected? Iyo-farm is continuing his block evasion on o2 mobile IPs. Psychologist Guy (talk) 10:12, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Shared account
Hi Orangemike... saw you on the list of recently active admins, so here I am. The user recently posted a contested deletion of their sandbox, User:Suchitraella/sandbox. In that post, they are referring to as "We are from the team of Bharat Biotech International Limited", which is the company of the subject of the sandbox. So by my count, this account has violated WP:NOSHARING, WP:IMPERSONATE, WP:PAID, WP:PROMO and WP:CV. I suspect a block is in order. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 19:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

A few general editing questions
Hi OrangeMike

If a subject has a prodigious output should I make a new page for all the output or just continue to highlight the most important and link at the outside links at the bottom to a complete list?

I feel like over-linking breaks the flow of the article. Is there a valid reason to link to "all" "reality" "responsibility" Shouldn't a phrase that might be used in national discussion -- say "political pornography" not be linked to two separate entires?

If a reference link is broken and I cannot find it do I note it as a dead link? And how?

Should there be any links to video or audio on the Wikimedia page?

Thanks for your help.

KAM — Preceding unsigned comment added by MAK999KAM (talk • contribs) 14:46, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * If a subject has a lot of output, a "selected bibliography" or analogy seems the best way to go; but you'll see some people creating an overdetailed list of every time an actor ever appeared on stage, every journal article an academic ever published, etc.
 * Link to terms that may not be familiar to readers - local offices, place names, etc. A phrase like "political pornography" sounds like a pejorative being used by an opponent: what does it even mean? There is a template for reference links that don't work; but I always look to replace a deadlink if I can.
 * Links must only go to legitimate appearances of the videos or audios licensed by the copyright holder. Besides, there is a strong preference for a link to text, which is less subject to interpretation and less controversial as to what is being heard/seen.
 * And: please use the template to be found at Template:Paid on your user page. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  16:15, 18 November 2021 (UTC)-- Orange Mike  &#124;  Talk  16:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks Mike,


 * I guess I'm asking if it is rude to remove links created by others to words like "all" or "reality" or just let them go.


 * Thanks MAK999KAM (talk) 19:09, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
 * We advise: when possible, avoid placing links next to each other so that they look like a single link (a "sea of blue"). Curing such a condition is sound editing, of the thankless but vital sort sometimes self-mockingly referred to as "wiki-gnoming". -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  19:15, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi can you help me
I would like to be on Wikipedia as I try to promote my music and success. Jr Boogie (talk) 03:28, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Hell, no. We have no tolerance for efforts to promote yourself in any way here. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  03:29, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary
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Code
How to run JavaScript code in Wikipedia? (Example: console.log("Hello World!");) Muslim789 (talk) 18:03, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
 * My guess is ask at WP:VPT.— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  16:55, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

A Help Desk question that will soon be useful to many
This question which you answered is one I'm sure a lot of people will want to know how to answer. North Carolina, and probably other states, has gone through major redistricting and some new districts don't have an incumbent while some representatives will change districts. Some of those changing districts will still be representing some of the areas they already did.~ Where's a good place to figure out what to do?— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  16:55, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, this kind of thing tends to have to be addressed on a case-by-case basis. On a given article, you may have to say something like, "The new 2nd Yoknapatawpha County district included the Townships of Narnia, Grantville, Midgard, Liaden, Arkham and Mirkheim from the old 2nd district, but no longer included the City of Hobbiton, which was moved to the new 3rd district. Stanislaus Hungadunga, the incumbent, was a resident of Hobbiton, and did not run in either new district." -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  17:29, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Recover deleted sandbox
Thank you for your response on the Help Desk. You said: "It was deleted as a duplicate of an already-existing article, Photon-counting computed tomography. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:04, 6 December 2021 (UTC)"

I understand why it was deleted. However, my real question was about recovering what was deleted. I was working on updates for the existing article in my SandBox before publishing my updates. There was a great deal that I had worked on changing. Is there any way to recover what was deleted. I am very new to Wikipedia (I am doing this for a class assignment) and thought that this was the purpose of the SandBox. I guess I was mistaken. Ajallphin (talk) 17:24, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Generally, massive changes are discouraged. You are instead urged to make your article improvements on an incremental basis, so that others watching that article can provide feedback on your changes as a progressive process. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  18:13, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

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Administrators will no longer be autopatrolled
A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Trusted sources?
Is the Declaration of Independence written by the forefathers of America a citable source? Dude Guymansen (talk) 20:43, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It is citable as to what it says. It is a glorious piece of political rhetoric, perhaps the most powerful in human history, and must be read as such. It was not meant as statute law, or even to be taken as sincere ("all men are created equal" from a bunch of slaveholders; yeah, right). And it has nothing to do with the gibberish you were posting. Wisconsin has given a lot to America and the world; but we have also given them Joe McCarthy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Scott Walker, Ed Gein, the Posse Comitatus and the "sovereign citizen" balderdash the Posse fostered, a toxin which has poisoned the English-speaking world. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  21:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

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Ben Porat Yosef reliable sources
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Engelmann
You removed the statement that HOE had been in WWiA, with the note that he was not nearly prominent enough to be in there. Your judgment of his prominence is irrelevant. There are two relevant questions: 1) Was he listed? 2)If he was listed, is that something that should be put in the article? I don't have access to WWiA for the given year, and I don't know of a Wikipedia policy or tendency for the latter. Can you answer the questions? 2600:6C67:1C00:300:8413:ED44:7A5A:9B1E (talk) 21:24, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Can you please explain what on Earth you're talking about? Engelmann who? WWiA what? -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  21:42, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

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question about the block of Ali J Eisner
Hi OrangeMike, our paths have crossed before. Just happened to see your block of Ali J. Eisner and I was just curious, is there some way you know that account is NOT the well-known person the username seems to imply it is? I understand that I can't sign up with an account like LeBron James but I figure I could sign up as myself, yes? Just hoping to learn and understand more. Thanks for your time. Jessamyn (talk) 00:20, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It is standard procedure when somebody creates an account in the name of any notable living person, and claims to be that person, we block the account (it's a soft block) until we can establish that it is not an imposture. This is especially important when the account is editing the article about that person. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  13:42, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, good to know. Jessamyn (talk) 16:53, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

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Clarification on Talk:Michael Cremo edit
You stated that, "Your recent edit to Talk:Michael Cremo might be interpreted as an intent to edit Wikipedia to fit your religious beliefs. Wikipedia is not a place to advance your belief system, no matter how compelling you find it to be.", yet I am unable to determine exactly what you are referring to specifically. If you see everyone who doesn't fall in line with your way of thinking as being religious, that only indicates your personal mode of thinking. Can you be more specific on what led you to think I want to turn Wikipedia into my personal religious forum? I am looking for specific religious language, rather than your personal interpretation of what was written. BRealAlways (talk) 02:53, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Your edit led me to believe that you were threatening to add content to articles that would be based on Cremo's work, rather than on reliable sources. Since Cremo's work is religious rather than scientific, I thought it appropriate to warn you. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  00:49, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Query
Hello, Orangemike,

TotoB12 asked me a question on my user talk page and I was getting back to them when I saw they were blocked. You blocked them because their username represents a "well-known person" but I can't figure out who that well-known person is! Is there a TotoB I don't know about? Thanks for any clarification you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 23:58, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The oversight deletions imply something we take pretty seriously. I think this was some kind of self-advert (vaguely remember an attempt to sell an NFT or something). A Google seems to point to some child's account(s). -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  04:03, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

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Could another admin take a look at this?
Don't want to take away their talkpage edit rights myself, as it might be seen either as petty or as confirming their accusations somehow. See: User talk:Poiuytr00. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  21:27, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Hope I'm doing this right.. Quick question
Hi friends (and Mike). I am brand new to editing and just made my first edit! I am a bit nervous I've bungled it. Could you take a look and make sure I'm on the right track? I'd love to begin contributing to the grand project that is Wikipedia. My edit was on the Austin Police Department (TX-USA) page. I edited the number of officers based on Austin's Approved Budget for FY22. My cite is directly from the Austin city finance/gov page and is a PDF. Does this edit look alright to you/y'all? Much appreciated. --KhiVoh (talk) 08:19, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, but you should have updated the numbers in the lede paragraph as well. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  16:21, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

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Block evasion.
It sees a user you recently blocked is evading your block at. It thought to bring to to SPI, but I figured it would be quicker to notify you. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:17, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Jacob Low (squatter-legislator)
Hi! Regarding this edit, the citation provided "Low, Jacob. Queensland Parliamentary Debates 21 July 1875" didn't include a URL so I went to add it as it is available online but when I went looking for the correct page number to cite, I discovered that Jacob Low doesn't get mentioned. I wonder if you cited the wrong date? Thanks Kerry (talk) 01:37, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
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First edit day
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Barry. My lad.
Think he's an LTA? -- Deep fried okra ( talk )
 * That specific pattern of scatology and abuse doesn't match anybody I can recall offhand. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  00:26, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

About the color orange
I'm a fan too since I'm a handyman, and one of the Big Box home improvement stores is predominantly orange, so I think in that color. I've been told by my close friends that going near any hardware store gives me nipple erections. Just saying about the celebrities on RepresentUs that the list is extensive, and even longer I think. I've never been to Wisconsin although I've seen pictures of it.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:08, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Celebrity endorsements are basically trivia; notability is not, after all, contagious. I am not the handyperson of my household (that's my wife, the union stagehand); but I've got more than a few things about the house with that company's emblematic orange on them. I like my adopted home state of Wisconsin, even in winter. If you enjoy science fiction, I particularly recommend coming to our WisCon every Memorial Day weekend. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  15:22, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Well Wisconsin is certainly more interesting than New Jersey. I once watched a YouTube video of a train ride from Chicago to Seattle, and it went through Wisconsin; I remember silos, cows, small towns. About celebrities, I wonder if we could get them to endorse us as Wikipedians, like they support our editing and what we do here, but I suppose they're all busy with other stuff, chasing the cameras and such.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:57, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Re:Removing wikilinks
I'm fixing the lint errors. I am doing well, the link should be to the external link not to the article. See more, Wikipedia:Special page:Lint errors: Links in links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anibal Maysonet (talk • contribs) 11:17, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Wikilinks and Lint errors
Hello again,i doin this, example:


 * Fixed

Netherlands braces for 'jihad' ]- The Washington Times. November 5, 2004
 * Error

Netherlands braces for 'jihad' - The Washington Times]. November 5, 2004 Well, have a good day, (sorry for my english, i no-native language) Aníbal  (Talk)  23:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
 * End

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About Conflict Of Interest
Hi Orangemike, thank you for your reply on my contributions, i have not taken money from anyone to put up their articles, i also do not know any of them personally. That is why i find it hard to understand when talks of "conflict of interest" come up. I am not paid to work on articles, i also try to be neutral, any sentence that looks promotional or an advertisement is purely coincidental or rather added innocently not for incentives. How do i make my drafts better, the FAQs and pointers here arent helping me. Thatnsukkaboy (talk) 15:52, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * On your userpage, the very first way you describe yourself is as a "digital marketer". To us, that's a shrieking alarm saying, "I plan to commit marketing within Wikipedia, and don't even have any shame about it". -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  16:12, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Links to books
Hello,

I noticed that you removed the links on the list of books by David Horowitz. Your edit summary mentioned to see External links, but since you’re an administrator I’m hoping you might be able to help me understand why those links don’t meet the criteria for inclusion. The links went to Internet Archive where the books are provided for free viewing without violation of copyright, and the links were confined to the selected list of his works.

Thanks for your help! Neighborhood Review (talk) 12:44, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Internet Archive has become a pariah in the publishing industry because they are putting up books which are fully copyrighted, claiming to be somehow saving the books from bookburning. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  14:18, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

Would you be interested in reviewing the relevance of the sources for Shain Neumeier?
Almost two years ago, I attempted to delete the Shain Neumeier article. Being overwhelmed by Wikipedia's endless conflicts, I went too far and was blocked for a while, but on the other hand, nobody actually reviewed the sources in depth. Most of the sources are probably first person, or consist of only a few sentences that relate the subject (see Shain Neumeier as an example, though this is very old).

I am asking you because you seem to be a good editor that knows a lot about article cleanup, and was hoping that you have the time to review the article with myself and others to achieve proper consensus. Additionally, another admin did tell me that at the very least, the entire article should be rewritten. All the best, Yleventa2 (talk) 00:21, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I cannot respond to your post without violating our rules on outing. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  01:55, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Question about a user you recently blocked
Hi Mike, I was patrolling recent changes, and noticed that you blocked a user called OakwoodMarketing, saying they are ‘not here to build an encyclopaedia’. Being the curious sort, I poked through their edit history; they appeared to be edits typical of a newcomer and I could not find anything blatantly wrong with them that would warrant an indefinite block. Maybe there’s something I’m missing here, so I’m wondering if you can elaborate— what was wrong with their edits? Helen (💬📖) 03:08, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This is a pattern we've seen a lot of lately: making a few trivial edits to get up to confirmed status. Combined with a name which blatantly proclaims their purpose here is to commit marketing, seems to me to constitute prima facie evidence of not being here to improve this project. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  03:11, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I wasn't aware that there was a pattern (I just do the reporting, not the blocking), but this definitely makes more sense now. Good call on the block, and thanks for explaining.  Helen (💬📖) 03:19, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * They just admitted it! Their unblock request explanation for what they were doing is, "Please review content changes list, I am seeking account confirmation by contributing minor content edits to industry related pages and these edits are neutral in nature and non-advertising related. Once account is verified, I would like to create an article page detailing factual information of our business entity." -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  03:23, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * And now, has switched from "I" to "we"! So, also a shared account, as the corporate name implied all along! -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  06:11, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

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David Dick’s Page
Hello, I saw that you edited his page earlier. This is my first summation and I was hoping you could review my work and tell me how to get it out of draft mode Thanks in advance, Pam The Honoring Historian (talk) 21:48, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * 1. It's not "David Dick's Page"; it's meant to be An Article About David Dick.
 * 2. Follow our manual of style. Don't first-name the subject, eschew bullet points, italicize book titles and names of shows, etc.
 * 3. Don't make it like a resume. We do NOT need a list of everywhere he was assigned; and just because the stories he covered were important, doesn't make him important. We need references (properly formatted) to impartial coverage about him.
 * 4. Clean it up, so it looks more like an article about a reporter of note that a copy-editor AND a fact-checker would approve of. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  22:17, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Number1992
Hello, Orangemike. I've read all the information you've sent to me. First of all, do not accuse me of "vandalism" or "spamming". Second, I saw that article 'cus it have good information and I wanted to add to de encyclopedia. I don't have any relationship with those guys. Third, as per the the external links guideline says, external links can be posted at the External links sections but you say this link is inappropriate for the encyclopedia, can you explain to me more and how should I add a new "external link" that doesn't hurt this network? Fourth, I find it outrageous the way you say I'm not trying to contribute to the encyclopedia. If not, should I be charged in that way? PD. I understand that wikipedia isn't a "links library", but, come on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Number1992 (talk • contribs) Talk   — Preceding undated comment added 16:36, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Your only edits have been to add links to some random for-profit company website, links which add nothing to the article; and you falsely marked those edits as "minor". We may be forgiven for assuming that you're not doing this for funsies, which leads us to suspect that you're doing this due to some connection to that website and its operators. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  16:48, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Unclear. How do you recomend then apply this edits then? Number1992 &#124;  Talk   16:55, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I see no reason for the addition of these links to a commercial website. Make edits in other areas which need them, improving the quality of the existing text, or adding actual usual information derived from reliable sources to which you have no connection. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  16:58, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

help with an old often-deleted now-protected page
Hello Orange Mike. I just wrote a short biography page for Andrew Mangan who is the maintainer of the long-running blog about the Arsenal football club, called Arseblog. I was going to redirect the name of the blog to the page about him. However, thanks to long-ago vandalism, that page is locked/protected and can only be edited by an Administrator. What I was hoping is that either that protection from 14 years ago could be lifted, or that an Administrator might be willing to just edit that page to redirect to Andrew Mangan (writer) since he is the owner/operator of the blog. Thank you for considering it. Jessamyn (talk) 23:34, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Since the request comes from you, I will certainly AGF. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  01:11, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Jessamyn (talk) 01:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Ruchita Maheshwari
Hi Orangemike. has contacted VRTS asking that her account be unblocked. You blocked her as having the same name as a well-known person, but we have no article on that person. Looking at her contributions, I have no doubt in my mind that she's just trying to promote herself in an autobiography, Draft:Ruchita Maheshwari, which has been deleted per G11. Looking over the deleted draft, I'm unconvinced of notability, it looks quite self-promotional without any secondary source coverage. An impersonator wouldn't write such glowing praise. This leads me to conclude that a well-known-person-block wasn't appropriate. Would you mind undoing it? The user hasn't really done anything wrong, and draft space is the correct venue for someone to work on an autobiography. ~Anachronist (talk) 23:22, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I thought we had a tacit understanding that if somebody had a username of User:Fred Schlabotnik, and created a BLP article about "Fred Schlabotnik", they were in fact asserting that "Fred Schlabotnik" is a well-known person, thus making the user account eligible for an impersonation block (and not incidentally cutting back on the number of new accounts committing autobiography). Am I alone in that understanding? -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  01:08, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Anyone who creates an autobiography is asserting that they are notable. That isn't grounds for blocking, because the assertion may be incorrect. We don't block any non-notable person who wrote an autobiography in draft space. An account created under the name of a subject who is actually notable is grounds for blocking by impersonation. That isn't the case here.
 * Blocking for a different reason (self-promotion) would have been better. Applying an impersonation block on someone who created a promotional autobiography puts VRTS volunteers like me in an awkward position when the subject complains via email. If I say the block is justified, then I am agreeing that the subject is notable, which I'd rather not do. If I agree that the user shouldn't be blocked, that's an admission that the blocking admin made a mistake, and I'd rather not say that until I know what conditions you require to lift the block.
 * In this case, the subject claims that she created the account under her own name and proceeded to write her own autobiography, which should be evidence enough that she is the same person. VRTS volunteers are discouraged from asking for proof of identification. I could ask her to put something on one of the pages of her website to prove that she controls the site, but that seems like overkill in a case where AGF should be sufficient. ~Anachronist (talk) 15:58, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Block reasons
Hey! I see you blocked. I was curious why you blocked them for advertising and promotion, in addition to username issues? Did they create an article that has since been deleted, because the only thing in their edit history is the help desk question (which seemed fairly innocuous to me, though maybe it's not?). Skarmory  (talk •   contribs)  10:22, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Their question made it extremely clear that the only reason they were here, is that they were prepping to perform advertising and promotion for their company ("Because I created this to write an article about my company, however, "Superlegal" is so generic and doesn't work well"); and their edit history shows the classic pattern of doing just enough innocuous minimal edits to make the ten-edit standard. I took them at their word. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  14:41, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Alright. Thanks for explaining! Skarmory   (talk •   contribs)  09:16, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Joseph M. Mleziva
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Thanks
Thanks, Mike. I appreciate your offer. Let's see what topics the students choose and go from there. ProfHanley (talk) 15:36, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Feedback from help section
Hey, thanks for your feedback in the help section. Everything I placed in the article came from sources on the internet or books. Did I not cite accordingly? Thanks! John4243 (talk) 15:44, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The place to discuss this stuff is at Draft talk:Edwin J. Hess. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  15:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

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Username vio
Hey Mike! I have a question. If someone creates a userpage that is simply advertising their Youtube channel (or themself), and their username is the same as who they are trying to advertise, would that qualify as promotion and be blockable? ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 01:55, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The channel? A no-brainer. A "userpage" which is a fake article? I'd delete as an advert. A username which is their real name is not a violation, until and unless they are claiming to be the same as a living person who is notable enough to have an article about them here. What is more controversial, is whether the fact that you've created an autobiography in article-space means you've asserted notability for yourself, which in my opinion means that your account could be blocked as an impersonation of somebody you yourself claim to be notable; but other editors, some of them very sound people, disagree with me. See the discussion a few paragraphs above this one, at User talk:Orangemike/Archive 35. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  02:01, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Alright sounds good. Thanks! ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:03, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Martin Gorecki
We know he was born in Bydgoszcz. But "The place of birth, although it may be significant from the perspective of local studies, is rarely defining from the perspective of an individual." WP:COP-PLACE Rathfelder (talk) 08:56, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Eighteen years of one's life must inevitably shape one. And given his place as a Polish-American activist (Polish language and Polish culture), I don't think it could reasonably be omitted. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  22:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)


 * He is in Category:Polish emigrants to the United States. The article does not say anything about where he spent his first 18 years.  Categories are supposed to be defining.  It seems very clear that he did nothing notable in Bydgoszcz. I think the policy is quite clear. Rathfelder (talk) 23:26, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Born in Bydgoszcz (Bromberg) in the Polish-majority Province of Posen of the German Empire, on October 20, 1871, attended public schools and immigrated to the United States at the age of eighteen. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  23:44, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
 * So the only link to Bromberg is that he was born there. We dont even know he went to school there. Rathfelder (talk) 23:48, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

User needs tpa revoked
Hey! The user you just blocked, Peepeepoopoofreedmarcus, needs their TPA revoked. ― Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 01:27, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I already did that. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  01:28, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Oop looks like you were already on top of that. Thanks! ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 01:29, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

NPA warning
Hey! I saw the that you warned LBthewolf for making a personal attack, however I looked at their edit and didn't see anything that I would consider a personal attack. The only thing that I might see as being a personal attack would be the "or else" added to their edit summary which is sort of a threat, but I wouldn't necessarily consider it a personal attack as it didn't appear to be directed at anyone. I'm not trying to defend the user, I"m simply just trying to understand your reasoning for warning the user. ― <b style="background:#0d1125;color:#51aeff;padding:1q;border-radius:5q;">Blaze Wolf</b>Talk<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545 01:57, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * "Don't revert me or else" cannot be interpreted as other than a threat; vague, but a threat nonetheless. One other editor called it "a death threat" but I think that's really excessive. Still, we don't put up with that stuff. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  03:05, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph M. Mleziva
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Jack Layton's granddaughters
Hi, I noticed that there's and edit war on the page of Jack Layton. I think a consensus on who is considered notable should be on his article's talk page. I agree with you that Wikipedia is not a genealogy website. That being said the initial reason for the granddaughters being deleted was due to him not having granddaughters at all as the reason that was originally given was that it was "untrue". I can confirm that Sarah Layton has two daughters (Beatrice and Solace) and Mike Layton has two daughters (Phoebe and Chloe), this is confirmed on his Social media along with Brett Tryon's social media. Can we agree that calling it "untrue" was erroneous without adding them to the relative section until and unless they gain enough notability to have their own article at some future date? Those girls are indeed Jack Layton's grandkids: https://www.instagram.com/mikelaytonto/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/bretttryon/?hl=en - User:CountingStars500, 18:25, 11 March 2022
 * I certainly never took any position on whether it was true or not (not that Instagram is a reliable source). I just don't see why somebody should persist on adding the names of non-notable descendants. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  23:32, 11 March 2022 (UTC)


 * you realize that layton himself posted that so it would the a source? just like how you guys add trumps tweets to his page they are a source due to the subject posting it or doing the thing that is reported on. Diepanzerwaffles (talk) 12:01, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

it feels like a biased anarchist self proclaimed sanders supporter and communist shouldnt be able to moniter poltical articles
I edited the American independent party article to explain why trump is on it but you seem to have a preference as you proceeded to bar from editing and changed it back — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diepanzerwaffles (talk • contribs) 14:59, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The language you keep putting into that article is so garbled that nobody can decipher what it is you are trying to say. There is no ideological bias involved. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  15:20, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 * its not garbled its understandable stating "trump was party of the AIP election in 2016 due to AIP officials voting him into their party without his consent"  Diepanzerwaffles (talk) 12:00, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is garbled. Please only make edits in grammatical English, with spelling, punctuation, capitalization and other rules followed. I suggest that you post on the talk page of that article what it is you are trying to say, with a link to a reliable source backing it up; and if it's relevant to the article, we can add it to the text. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  12:34, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Internet Archive Scholar vs. JSTOR
Hello, I see on your user page that you use JSTOR and I'd like to know more about your experience. By my calculations, a good 70 % of the main JSTOR content is now available for everyone at Internet Archive Scholar, with full text search provided e.g. at https://scholar.archive.org/. The service is still in beta, but I've used it for some source-finding and it seems quite usable to me; I wonder whether that's just my experience. If you have a chance, the next time you'd be looking for a source on Google Scholar or JSTOR or similar, to perform the same search on IA scholar instead, I'd be curious to hear how it ends up. Thanks, Nemo 19:06, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Lookers Group SEO
Hi Orangemike. You just blocked (thank you), but I think there's another problem. consists of multiple copyright violations, just direct copy-and-pastes from their corporate website. At least they were good enough to provide the links to make checking it easy. Can you or someone else revdel that content? --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:01, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Deleted Revision
Hi Orange Mike. I’m a new Wikipedia editor and I’m not sure if you see it when I reply to you on my own talk page. Sorry if this is spamming you but I was wondering if you could look at my edits to Senator Richard Burr page. You Undid my edits earlier and asked if I had a conflict of interest, which I do not. Full explanation on my talk page. Sorry for any confusion! Noice moves143 (talk) 04:40, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2022
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Travis McGee
1. After almost a week, there was no discussion. Any policy you can point to on how long I should wait?

2. With a few exceptions, which were merged, everything in that article was either unsourced, in-universe, or duplicated on the main John D. MacDonald page. It was basically a fanpage and completely unencyclopedic.

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
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Semi-protection of Regulate (song)
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Mandela Barnes
The key word here is "if". If he was to be kidnapped by Martians, he would be the first man on Mars, but this is speculation about uncertain future events. Could it be included? WP:CRYSTAL says ;
 * "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation, rumors or presumptions." (My emphasis.)
 * "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." Is Wikipedia saying his election to senate in almost certain?  Escape Orbit  (Talk) 14:27, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

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Arbitration
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Heads-up
You gave a block notice but didn't actually block them. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 23:48, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Your block of J Jack Kennedy Jr
Jack apparently has socked up.  –Skywatcher68 (talk) 13:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not really socking when we encourage them to create an account under a new username. —C.Fred (talk) 19:30, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Have you read those edits, Fred? -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  19:31, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi, I just came here to say what said. Same to  and  (AIV report). If it's a block based on other reasons (which I would clearly understand), please clarify this in the block reason of both (or now all three) accounts and on their talk pages. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Goddamn you Trubetskoy!
You okay with his proposed new username? Daniel Case (talk) 07:00, 13 July 2022 (UTC)


 * If "Prince Trubetskoy" is either dead or fictional, why not? -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  19:28, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I think it's a character in a play ... Daniel Case (talk) 06:27, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

XenData
Another one who might be unblockable (along with a name change). Take a look. Daniel Case (talk) 06:09, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to AGF on this one. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  17:50, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed protection of Joseph Quinn (actor)
Hey, I just wanted to ask about the extended-confirmed protection of the page for Joseph Quinn. Should there maybe be an expiry set, or can we consider reducing the protection level? I understand there was an edit war over his age/birth date, but the extended-confirmed protection does seem extreme. I thought that was supposed to be reserved for super controversial pages, not just any page where there is some sort of edit war. I consider myself a moderately active keen wiki editor but even I'm not at 500 edits yet, so overuse of that protection level locks users like me out. This seems like it's outside the bounds of what extended protection was originally meant to do.  April Jennifer  (she/her • talk • contributions) 02:05, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Your reasoning is sound; let's see how it goes. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  12:03, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).



Administrator changes
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 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Anthony Appleyard (deceased) • Capitalistroadster • Samsara

Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
 * An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.

Technical news
 * The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
 * Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)

Arbitration
 * The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous
 * You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
 * Wikimania 2022 is taking place virtually from 11 August to 14 August. The schedule for wikimania is listed here. There are also a number of in-person events associated with Wikimania around the world.
 * Tech tip: When revision-deleting on desktop, hold between clicking two checkboxes to select every box in that range.

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Please stop deleting my updates to the Sex to Sexty Wiki
Hi Mike! While I appreciate your hard work out here on Wiki, I am just trying to update the Sex to Sexty wiki with their website, literally commissioned by John Newbern himself. Etsy has a page on here and it links to their website. Amazon has a page on here that links to their website. Why can we not link to our website? John himself commissioned me to build the site for him. Those are his pieces of art, their history, their story. Why can we not link to our site on OUR wiki? jessiecombs2512 (talk)
 * Because it is not your wiki. Wikipedia is the Wikimedia Foundation's wiki. The article about Sex to Sexty is not yours, or the Newbern family's; it is an article in an encyclopedia about a historical topic. There is no place in such an article for a commercial link, least of all one actually inviting people to make purchases.
 * Your account has now been blocked indefinitely for advertising or promotion and violating the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use. This is because you have been making promotional edits to topics in which you have a financial stake, yet you have failed to adhere to the mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a form of conflict of interest (COI) editing which involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is strictly prohibited. Using this site for advertising or promotion is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  00:28, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

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Aryanoboi
It's no great loss to the encyclopedia, given the vandalism, but FWIW see my comments at UAA about, whose username apparently is a possible full name to have ("Aryan Oboi"). -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 04:54, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2022).

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 * A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
 * An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.

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 * The impact report on the effects of disabling IP editing on the Persian (Farsi) Wikipedia has been released.
 * The WMF is looking into making a Private Incident Reporting System (PIRS) system to improve the reporting of harmful incidents through easier and safer reporting. You can leave comments on the talk page by answering the questions provided. Users who have faced harmful situations are also invited to join a PIRS interview to share the experience. To sign up please email Madalina Ana.

Arbitration
 * An arbitration case regarding Conduct in deletion-related editing has been closed. The Arbitration Committee passed a remedy as part of the final decision to create a request for comment (RfC) on how to handle mass nominations at Articles for Deletion (AfD).
 * The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous
 * The new pages patrol (NPP) team has prepared an appeal to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) for assistance with addressing Page Curation bugs and requested features. You are encouraged to read the open letter before it is sent, and if you support it, consider signing it. It is not a discussion, just a signature will suffice.
 * Voting for candidates for the Wikimedia Board of Trustees is open until 6 September.

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Science fiction editors
Thank you for your message on my talk page, and your kind words about my knowledge of films. However, we appear to have a disagreement over a matter of interpretation that I must now address.

You say that "An editor of a Hugo-winning fanzine, semi-prozine, or related work, is a Hugo-winning editor", and that "If Buck and Juanita Coulson were not "Hugo-winning editors", then the term has no meaning."

A Hugo-winning editor is one who has won the Hugo Award for Best Professional Editor, either in its original incarnation as a single award, or one of Long Form or Short Form following the award being split into two categories. This is the only meaning of the term "Hugo-winning" editor.

Looking at the list of winners, the Coulsons are not on it. The award they won is the Hugo Award for Best Fanzine. In this case, the award is going to the work, not to the person(s). The work is Hugo-winning, the people are not. This is an important distinction, both in itself (accuracy) and given the fact the Best Editor awards exist (ambiguity/confusion).

To draw a comparison; Sian Heder was the director of CODA, which won Best Picture at the Academy Awards. However, she did not win Best Director. This means it would be inaccurate to categorise her as an "Academy Award-winning director". She did not win that award.

I said in my first paragraph that this is a matter of interpretation. This is because my issue is, as I said above, with the category being "Hugo-winning editors" and therefore applying to people who have won editing awards. Where the fact is that a work has won a Hugo award, and a person can be identified as the editor of the work, I don't dispute that fact. But if you wanted to categorise these people, the category would be, say, "Editors of Hugo-winning works". Then it would be clear that while they are the editor of a Hugo-winning work (or works), they have not actually won a Best Editor Hugo themselves. Named that way, then the category would be accurate in the way you are interpreting it, and there would be no ambiguity or confusion.

But as it stands, to categorise Editors who have not won a Hugo Award for Best Editor as Hugo-winning Editors is inaccurate and confusing.

(And finally, I will note that I shouldn't have to cite my bona fides or wave my credentials around, but if you're going to say "don't tell actual Hugo voters...", then I'm going to have to note that I have been involved with Science Fiction since the '90s and have been a Hugo voter times over the years, so I am 'inside the room', as it were. However, this makes no material difference to any of the arguments expressed above, as these are related in interpretation of Wikipedia policy and common reading of English, and not to any material facts that rely on needing specialist knowledge or expertise in order to be allowed into the conversation.) H. Carver (talk) 11:38, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I vehemently disagree. The "Best Pro Editor" Hugos are called that to distinguish them from other Hugos given to editors, either of fanzines or non-fiction works. The history of Hugo categories and their naming reflects that sometimes fandom has issued the Hugo formally to the fanzine, sometimes to the editor(s), just as we have in the pro categories. -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  13:24, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you
Hi, Mike,

I wanted to let you know that I appreciate you restoring a page I messed up the other day. I couldn’t figure out how to restore it myself or I would have. Take care. Stidhambw5 (talk) 01:58, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Could you take a look at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of the Americas please? Thanks. Doug Weller talk 13:49, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Traduksciigo: Help:Description
Saluton Orangemike,

vi ricevas tiun ĉi mesaĝon, ĉar vi registriĝis kiel tradukisto de la lingvo Esperanto ĉe Wikidata. La paĝo Help:Description estas tradukpreta. Vi povas traduki ĝin ĉe:
 * traduki al Esperanto

La prioritato de tiu ĉi paĝo estas alta.

Ni valoregas vian helpon. Tradukistoj kiel vi helpas al Wikidata funkcii kiel vere multlingva komunumo.

Dankon!

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James Doxtator
In the article of Jeffrey Dahmer, I suggested that “male prostitute” be changed to James Doxtator. I’m trying to understand why or what about the request you thought was “unsourced speculation“ so that I know what sources I need to provide. James Doxtator’s age is already stated in the article. And a minor can not legally be a prostitute, because a minor can not legally consent to sex with an adult. It’s a legal manner, not speculation. K.rae.rae.v (talk) 21:44, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Your assertion ("a minor can not legally be a prostitute") has no source whatsoever. Do you labor under the delusion that consent is a necessary component of prostitution? -- Orange Mike &#124;  Talk  01:18, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2022).

Administrator changes
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CheckUser changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, consensus was found that if the rationale for a block depends on information that is not available to all administrators, that information should be sent to the Arbitration Committee, a checkuser or an oversighter for action (as applicable, per ArbCom's recent updated guidance) instead of the administrator making the block.
 * Following an RfC, consensus has been found that, in the context of politics and science, the reliability of FoxNews.com is unclear and that additional considerations apply to its use.
 * Community comment on the revised Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines is requested until 8 October.

Technical news
 * The Articles for creation helper script now automatically recognises administrator accounts which means your name does not need to be listed at WP:AFCP to help out. If you wish to help out at AFC, enable AFCH by navigating to and checking the "Yet Another AfC Helper Script" box.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 8.1 of the Muhammad images case will be rescinded 1 November following a motion.
 * A modification to the deletion RfC remedy in the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been made to reaffirm the independence of the RfC and allow the moderators to split the RfC in two.
 * The second phase of the 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review closes 3 October.

Miscellaneous
 * An administrator's account was recently compromised. Administrators are encouraged to check that their passwords are secure, and reminded that ArbCom reserves the right to not restore adminship in cases of poor account security. You can also use two-factor authentication (2FA) to provide an extra level of security.
 * Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections open 2 October and close 8 October.
 * You are invited to comment on candidates in the 2022 CUOS appointments process.
 * An RfC is open to discuss whether to make Vector 2022 the default skin on desktop.
 * Tech tip: You can do a fuzzy search of all deleted page titles at Special:Undelete.

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