User talk:ReaderofthePack/Archive 12

Johncongo
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Johncongo
I have removed the prod tag from Johncongo_(rapper), which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the prod template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Articles for deletion. Thanks! Pls i'm sorry for my mistake on your talk page above Latertinsna 12:01, 28 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Latertinsna (talk • contribs)

Centre for Innovation
Hi, I was working on a page which got deleted after a few revisions owing to copyright infringement. Since then I have given up as I do not have the energy to start from scratch again. My friend wishes to continue to work on the article. Is there a way I can provide a copy of the contents of the previous page to her so that she understands how not to write it this time? My apologies if the answer to the question is very obvious for you, we are new to contributing to wiki. Here is the link to the page where it existed earlier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Centre_for_Innovation Kkraoj (talk) 07:30, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm... shoot me an email and I'll send you a copy of the page's text. I can't restore it because it was copyvio and very promotional, but I can send you the information. Just send me a type message when you've sent the email. Tokyogirl79  (｡◕‿◕｡)   23:46, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi, thanks a lot! can I have your email id? Kkraoj (talk) 19:00, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You can send me an email via Wikipedia by clicking on this link. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:59, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Kkraoj (talk) 11:27, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Centre for Innovation
Hi, I was working on a page which got deleted after a few revisions owing to copyright infringement. Since then I have given up as I do not have the energy to start from scratch again. My friend wishes to continue to work on the article. Is there a way I can provide a copy of the contents of the previous page to her so that she understands how not to write it this time? My apologies if the answer to the question is very obvious for you, we are new to contributing to wiki. Here is the link to the page where it existed earlier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Centre_for_Innovation Kkraoj (talk) 07:30, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm... shoot me an email and I'll send you a copy of the page's text. I can't restore it because it was copyvio and very promotional, but I can send you the information. Just send me a type message when you've sent the email. Tokyogirl79  (｡◕‿◕｡)   23:46, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi, thanks a lot! can I have your email id? Kkraoj (talk) 19:00, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * You can send me an email via Wikipedia by clicking on this link. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:59, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Kkraoj (talk) 11:27, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

HiFiMan
Hello, last month, I created an article called HiFiMan. But it was deleted by you. so i am wondering if it still possible for me to recreate the article with the same name and different contents? hope i can hear from you soon. thanks.Fengxiaolu (talk) 01:49, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You can- there's not really anything to prevent you creating a new version, as long as you make sure to avoid using any copyrighted information and try not to make it overly promotional. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   01:58, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * As a New page Patroler I would Recomend If you Create a New page. Put it in the Drafts Namespace. Because i'm Likley to Find Some reason For a CSD or PROD. Thanks! Dudel250 (talk) 03:08, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

I am so happy to hear the suggestion from you guys. There is only one question I want to ask, that is, will the article create in my userspace could be read by others? thanks a lot.--Fengxiaolu (talk) 05:36, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * That's a really good suggestion! AfC or your userspace are both excellent places to start on an article, especially if you're worried about re-creating the article and giving yourself time to really polish it up. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:16, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * It'll show up on the new article log, if that's what you're asking. If you're asking if people can see it in a browser search, then the answer is a tentative yes. I've had articles in my userspace show up in a Google search. However I do have to caution that creating an article in your userspace doesn't mean that you aren't held to most of the same rules that you'd have in the mainspace. If it looks like it's too promotional or like you've largely abandoned it, it can still run the risk of being deleted in the future. The only big difference is that in the userspace people give you more time and leeway to edit. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:42, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I get it. Thanks for your quick response. What's the difference between articles created in the userspace and that in the mainspace? --Fengxiaolu (talk) 05:53, 14 May 2014 (UTC) thanks for your elaborated explanation. when you said "Since the company is located in China, there will likely be sources in Chinese.",does it mean that there is an article about this company at wikipedia with its Chinese version.If so, can i still create this article? Another question, since I am new here, i am not familiar with all the rules for creating an article. is it possible if i put the article in my userspace, i can get a notification of which rules that i am against? so i am change it promptly.--Fengxiaolu (talk) 08:28, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The basic difference is that since it's not in the mainspace, you are given more time to work on the article and bring it up to standards. It can sit in the userspace for quite some time and I've had userspace articles that I've kept around for months and months. We mostly just require the following: that you're actively working on trying to edit the article to where it'd pass GNG and be transferrable to the mainspace, that you aren't using it as a way to get around our basic rules and policies, and that you are actively monitoring or editing it. The last part is mostly because sometimes people will create userspace articles and then abandon them, but we're fairly easygoing about userspace copies being around for a while. Offhand I don't think that you'd really pose a problem with creating it in your userspace since I do think that you're here in WP:GOODFAITH. You can start creating a userspace copy by typing in a location such as User:Fengxiaolu/HiFiMan, although AfC is always a good option. Since the company is located in China, there will likely be sources in Chinese. I'm mentioning this mostly because a lot of people tend to think that coverage in reliable sources has to be in English, when it can be in any language. However since you are somewhat new with editing, I would suggest that you look into contacting people at WP:CHINA, a WikiProject that focuses on China-related topics, and run sources through WP:RS/N, a noticeboard where you can basically ask if something is usable or not. In many cases editors on either page can also help suggest edits to the page in general as well as other places to look for sourcing. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:01, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily- each Wikipedia has different standards for notability, so a company can pass WP:CORP in one language's Wikipedia but not pass another. It is, however, usually easier to build an article when you have another language Wikipedia copy to pull from. Unfortunately the userspace articles aren't really moderated or watched that closely, so you'd have to reach out to other editors in order to really get a lot of feedback, which is why WP:CHINA would be a good place to seek help. They will have people who speak the various dialects of Chinese, so they can help look for sources while they also give you feedback. I'm willing to help too, but I think that you will definitely want someone who is a fluent Chinese speaker since they'll have a better idea of what the foreign language sources are saying. I usually use Google Translate, but there are obvious flaws with using a computer translation program since it doesn't pick up the various nuances of the language. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:32, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much for all the answers. I will go to the WP:CHINA for some help. Just one last question, what's the standards for notability? Is that means if my article cannot reach the standards, it will be deleted at last? Is there anything I could do to get to the standards? Cuz I really want to create an article at wikipedia. --Fengxiaolu (talk) 09:03, 14 May 2014 (UTC) Thank you very much for all these. It certainly will help me a lot when I create the article. --Fengxiaolu (talk) 01:11, 15 May 2014 (UTC) By the way, can I cite some information from Chinese websites? Since they are a Chinese company. Of course I will have someone translated it into English.--Fengxiaolu (talk) 01:23, 15 May 2014 (UTC) Thank you so much for your quick response. I realize that I still have a problem with images. Can I take a picture of one of the products by myself and use it in the article? If not, what can I do to use a picture? --Fengxiaolu (talk) 01:15, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * In a nutshell it all boils down to coverage in reliable sources. For example, you could use newspaper articles about the company to show notability as long as the mentions weren't WP:TRIVIAL and the papers could be seen as a WP:RS. Reviews for their products can also help show notability, but again- they'd have to be in reliable sources. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:27, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You can, but it'd have to be re-written in your own words unless you're quoting from a review for one of the products. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:19, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * *Screams of Joy* Yes! There is a Special Place for Takeing Images for wikipedia (and other Projects I feel like a Steward Now) called Wikimedia Commons That you can find  Here  Dudel250 (talk) 01:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you found it! That's actually one of the most recommended ways to include photos and what's nice about it is that even if articles are deleted, the photos you take can remain in WC. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:15, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * A photo of an 8.5-week-old baby smiling.jpg Dudel250 (talk) 08:47, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I get it. But if I put the images to Wikimedia Commons, how can I use it in my article? Sorry this maybe a silly question. LOL.--Fengxiaolu (talk) 03:53, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You should be able to link to it by writing Cerejas_em_Montes_da_Senhora.jpg, if you want to put it into a side bar. It should look like this when you're done:
 * You can also put images in the infoboxes, but that should be reserved for the company logo in this instance. If you're writing about a person and you have a photo of your own that you want to upload, you should be able to link to that by just linking to it like normal. Mostly it shouldn't be any different than images you'd load into the mainspace on Wikipedia and normally we end up transferring most of the images to Commons anyway. The only ones that don't get transferred are usually ones that are copyrighted in some fashion, such as movie posters, official merchandise shots, company logos, and so on. We can use most images on Wikipedia with attribution, but not all of them can be moved to Commons, which is pretty much intended for photos that will be given up as freely licensed. (Meaning that the photographers had the rights to the photo and gave up any rights to profit off of it so they can be used freely by others.) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:05, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Wow! I notice there are some videos at the Wikimedia Commons. Is that means I could upload my own video? By the way, I like the picture you presented here. And also thanks for your kindness.(*^__^*) --Fengxiaolu (talk) 08:08, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I think it depends on the video, but that's something I'm wholly unfamiliar with. That's a question to take to Wikipedia talk:Media help, to ask what you can or can't use as far as video goes. I know that there is a definite limit to the type of video you can upload onto WC for use on the mainspace, but I'm not as familiar as to what you can upload just for viewing on WC. I'll drop a note on there asking for some assistance and pointing them towards this discussion, as it's something I should probably learn a bit more about myself. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:46, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks like WikiProject Wiki Makes Video is also a good place to ask questions about this as well, so I'll drop a note on there also. Oh- and I love cherries too! They're so pretty to look at and so delicious! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:51, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts. I really appreciate it. --Fengxiaolu (talk) 09:24, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

why my page VIN RANA bein redirected to some other page
Tokyogirl79 mam i really want to know why my article VIN RANA bein redirected to Mahabharat (2013 TV series) page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rashmi11 08 (talk • contribs) 14:05, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I redirected it because he seems to only be known for his role in the television show. All of the coverage I found mentions him only in relation to the television show. Typically when someone is known only for one role and doesn't receive a lot of coverage independently of that role, we redirect to the main article. If you can find more coverage of Vin Rana that discusses him outside of that role in a reliable source (WP:RS) we can always un-redirect. The only thing is that reliable sources must be independent of the actor and in a place that would be considered reliable. That means that we cannot accept things such as database listings, blog entries, or anything that was released by one of his representatives. The good news is that if the coverage exists in another language, we can always use that to show notability, as being reliable doesn't mean "English only". I'd recommend stopping in at WP:INDIA to ask for help with sources, as the people on that WikiProject are excellent with hunting for coverage. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:42, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

CSD contest
I was just about to contest! As far as I can see the text from lksamuels.com was entirely different in structure, tone, etc from the wiki article. Could you restore it (with the CSD template) for a few hours, so that can make see if I was mistaken. Since you decided it was a copyvio, could you provide som helpful tips as to why you deemed it so? Cheers, walk victor falktalk 06:04, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I thought it was very closely paraphrasing, but on second thought it looks like you're right. I'll decline the request accordingly. I was going to move it into your userspace, but I reversed that as well. Sorry about that! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:29, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I also figure that even if it was, you're a good enough editor to where you can obviously be trusted to deal with any issues. (Figured I'd throw in a vote of confidence for you as well, if anyone is curious about the restoration.) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:31, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Thx for the trust. I don't know if this article is problematic and if so in which ways, but if there are issues they are more subtle that what I presumed at first sight when stumbling upon it and saw the template. Cheers, walk victor falktalk 09:22, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Soft deletions = prods
Perhaps you are unaware that when an AFD closes with a deletion with no comments other than the nominator, it is considered a deletion by prod. That is the case with Francis Tiafoe. The closing admin there even said SOFT DELETION. Abductive (reasoning) 16:18, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll keep that in mind. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:41, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I had a question about Afd, what if the nominator is the only person to comment on the Afd, what will happen?  Occult Zone  ( Talk ) 03:46, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * It depends on the admin closing it, to be honest. Sometimes they'll just close it as no consensus due to a lack of debate and the basic assumption in these cases is that it's open to re-nomination for anyone who wants to try going that route. It's pretty rare for someone to say that an article can't be immediately re-nominated in the instance where there were no other people commenting. Mostly the "no immediate re-nominations" is for instances where a previous AfD closed as a keep and it looks like someone is trying to re-nominate it until they get it deleted. However at the same time, if you have a topic that is very, very clearly not notable (yet doesn't qualify for a speedy) then sometimes the admin will make a decision to delete the page. Basically like what Abductive said. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:53, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Some Cheers For you
 " Looks like Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Makes Video is also a good place to ask questions about this as well, so I'll drop a note on there also. Oh- and I love cherries too! They're so pretty to look at and so delicious! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) " Dudel250 Chat PROD Log CSD Logs 04:14, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Spain
Hi!

I am a member of WikiProject Spain, and I've been wanting to get involved in working on Wikipedia again! I saw some of your requests on the talk page, and I'm sorry that no one has responded to them. The page seems a bit inactive. I don't know how much of assistance I can be (my Spanish is somewhere between beginner and intermediate, so I'm not sure if my knowledge is as good as yours), but I'm willing to assist where I can if you have any more translation problem! LeftAire (talk) 01:27, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * It's definitely better than mine! I only took Spanish up to the 102 level, and most of the time I end up having to use Google Translate to solve the really tough passages. :) You can find a lot of projects that need translation at Category:Translation Request/es! Tokyogirl79  (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:35, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Great sandbox article
the Involuntary Celibacy article is very well written. I hope you'll put it up soon! -- Michael Scott Cuthbert (talk) 07:58, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on this. Unfortunately the consensus seems to be that the topic isn't worthy of a Wikipedia article. I tried my best to convince people otherwise, but was unsuccessful. Best regards. 2602:30A:2EA4:2B90:491A:B931:D3B3:259F (talk) 02:02, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I kind of figured that it wouldn't get made, but at least we did try all other options. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   02:24, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Stanford University alumni
Hello! I noted your comment "should probably make a standalone page at this point" when you added an alum to the Stanford University page. FYI, there already is a standalone page; it's at List of Stanford University people and is referenced as the "Main article" under the People section of the university article. Unfortunately people have added so many people to the main Stanford article, or to both places, that the article has gotten kind of overwhelmed. I think the idea was that everybody gets put in the "list" but a few very notable people also go in the "article"; however, that isn't clear and isn't being enforced. We have discussed this situation a little bit at the talk page, but haven't come up with a solution. --MelanieN (talk) 17:26, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah! I didn't see it there initially- I'll have to remember the article's title- thanks! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:11, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Need a Suggestion On List of burn centers in the Kanto Region
I Came Across this page while Patroling new pages but...I cant Decide if its a CSD or just a normal PROD!...really. i know that this page Isn't right for Wikipedia but i just cant decide what would be the most efficient. Just need a hand. Dudel250 ChatPROD Log CSD Logs 23:37, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Never mind Someone else did something with it :) Dudel250 ChatPROD Log CSD Logs 23:39, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Software
Hello, Tokyogirl79. I see that you have postponed deletion of Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Zopim. I thought that you might want to read the discussion above, which outlines current problems with the draft. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 11:11, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Re: Socks
Re your messages: I saw the Ignitepictures account, but I had thought that they had created the Octavio Nunez account after you had blocked the Ignitepictures account because of the user name issue. So I gave them a pass on the Octavio Nunez account as they are allowed to create a new account since they can't use the Ignitepictures name. That is also why I tagged the other socks under the Octavio Nunez name. However, upon closer inspection, I see that the Octavio Nunez account was created before the Ignitepictures account was blocked. So much for the one freebie account. I'm for blocking the whole lot of them and tagging them with Ignitepictures as the master account. It is obvious they are here to promote Zachary Laoutides and make him into a big movie star that he isn't.

I didn't open an SPI because it was obvious that all of the accounts were related. I hope it doesn't turn into another SEFPRODUCTIONS issue. We'll see how it goes. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
 * We can only hope. But hey, if they do end up going that route then maybe we can introduce the lot of them to one another. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   13:24, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I was wrong about more socks not appearing and this not turning into another SEFPRODUCTIONS. See the latest sock. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:06, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment
Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

inre Articles for deletion/Anderson's Cross
Sure appreciate you assist over at Anderson's Cross and I have continued improvements. What worried the nominator when first sent to AFD has, with our work, been vastly improved. Care to comment at the AFD? Thanks.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 19:50, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Can do! Sorry about that- I meant to come in but forgot- thanks for the reminder! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:15, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Silk Purse Award

 * Embolden that "keep" ?  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 08:02, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Clare Valley Film Festival
Could you put a copy of the deleted article in my user space please? Thanks in advance, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:14, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Can do! There were some other ones deleted- let me know if there are any others that you want. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   11:21, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And thanks for the other info. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:31, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Steve ODell
Hi, you closed Articles for deletion/Steve ODell. It seems to have made its way back to mainspace at Steve ODell without addressing the issues raised in the AFD. It's only three weeks on, so I'm reluctant to raise a second AFD this early. -- Red rose64 (talk) 20:56, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I was just going to post the same exact message. I suggest that it be deleted.  The deletion discussion was fairly lenient, and I think that we have extended quite a bit of good faith to an editor with an obvious conflict of interest.  The fact that she has removed the COI template, made no effort to tone down the promotional nature of the article, and attempted to go around an AfD makes me significantly less interested in giving her more chances to improve the article.  It seems obvious to me that this article is not going to get improved. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 23:56, 4 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I'll delete it and I'll ask her nicely that if she wants to re-create it, she'll have to show more proof of his notability. I'm willing to re-create it, but I don't see where she's actually done any work at all to it or shown that she's willing to actually meet us halfway on this. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   11:05, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I notice that your right hand was o→i→u l→k n→b. -- Red rose64 (talk) 14:40, 6 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for fixing that! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   14:45, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Banc de Binary
Hey TokyoGirl, I spotted your message to Okteriel regarding the recreation of Oren Laurent and stuff to do with Banc de Binary. COI editors have whitewashed the page as soon as the protection from Black Kite was lifted yesterday. Would it be possible for you to revert the changes which removed a consensus built article? I would myself but I can't figure out how as I'm rubbish with ITHistorianofRecenttimes (talk) 19:21, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
 * There was plenty evidence the prior version was not consensus-built. There is plenty evidence that the various short versions are. There is plenty evidence this user is about to go over 3RR. Okteriel (talk) 21:30, 8 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I'm not terribly familiar with everything going on with that page, so it may be better to seek out assistance from an admin that is more familiar with the page. I'll try to take a look at it later on, though. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   18:16, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

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Special:Contributions/Revilal90's new accounts
Hi, Tokyogirl, can you create Sockpuppet Investigation for Revilal90? I found his/her new accounts.

He/she has two accounts Special:Contributions/Mr. LuxeTH (for same Avril Lavigne edit pattern as Revilal90) and Special:Contributions/Cajalden (for Taylor Swift edit, but same attitude as Revilal90) and one IP address Special:Contributions/74.96.189.88. I guess he/she has two different computers. Make sure you mark both Mr. LuxeTH and Cajalden as cannot edit own talk page same as Revilal90.

I'm afraid he/she will watching your talk page. Can you move to SPI that you create. 183.171.165.47 (talk) 03:49, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Can you give more specific examples? In other words, specific edits that are similar or identical, as I'd need to have something to assert sockpuppetry besides similar editing. We have a lot of people that make similar edits because they're only interested in a specific article or type of article, so it'd be good to have more concrete proof. Also, it may be a better idea to get User:CT Cooper to open the SPI, as he was the admin that blocked Revilal90. He'd be more familiar with Revilal90's edit pattern, so he could potentially detect similarities. I'm willing to open one, but we need to be able to build a very good case for this. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Tokyogirl79 has kindly asked for my input. I was indeed the blocking admin, but that's quite an old block, which I only just remember doing. I only become involved in this case when started vandalizing the Justin Bieber article which gave me the justification to issue and indefinite block. Unfortunately, a checkuser isn't going to be of much help in this case, as checkuser data is only kept a short time, so all the technical data on Revilal90 has long since been lost. To block on grounds of sock-puppetry or block evasion without a checkuser, these new accounts would have to pass the WP:DUCK test. Although it's not impossible that there the same user, I don't think the current evidence passes, and we also have to consider the possibility that they're new contributors who will be scared off we throw accusations at them. For the time being, I will place both users on my watchlist and see how they get on, but for now I'm staying within WP:AGF. CT Cooper · &#32;talk 14:46, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this! I didn't think about the initial edits being from such a long time ago. Basically at this point it's just "wait and see". CT is right- there are a lot of people who are just new or make similar edits, so it's best to assume good faith for this. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:38, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Found Footage 3D rejection
You rejected the page for Found Footage 3D, saying that the issues on the marked for deletion page had not been resolved. However, my understanding (please correct me if I am wrong) is that the issue was that there was no confirmed source that the movie was filming. I provided a link to a reliable source (Dread Central) confirming that the movie was filming. I have since added an two additional links (to the Austin Chronicle and Bloody Disgusting) per the same. What more do I need to do? (my apologies. I'm new to this whole editing Wikipedia thing) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.57.128.186 (talk)


 * The Teahouse or The Wikipedia Adventure Are good places to learn about editing. But you need to create a account for them. I'm guessing that you used a first party source correct? Lor Chat 00:50, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

I cited 3 different reliable third party sources, one of which (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/76275/found-footage-3d-starts-filming-cast-fills-out#axzz34mvF2CCN) literally used the phrase "Right now we can confirm the flick began shooting this past Sunday". I don't understand what else could possibly be required. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.57.128.186 (talk) 01:11, 18 June 2014 (UTC)


 * hmm...The wording also states that they likely got the Information from IMDB that isn't a reliable source. What are your other sources?  Lor Chat 01:23, 18 June 2014 (UTC)


 * At the time you initially submitted it, there was no additional coverage beyond what was at AfD. There wasn't enough coverage to show that it passed notability guidelines. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:27, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm also concerned that the coverage is still fairly light. The problem with re-submitting it is that people will be watching for it and they could argue that the coverage is still too light- as one user already has done upon the second attempt at re-submitting it. We have this new source, but it's really just a brief reposting of the video diary from the set. There's also a Dread Central link, but it's also fairly brief and people will argue that it's just not in-depth enough. It's one of the frustrating parts of AfD. When something has gone through AfD and been deleted, it's a lot harder to get it back in the mainspace before we have a LOT of coverage. And I mean a massive amount of coverage. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:29, 18 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Good point. May take a few months for it to get enough coverage for Wikipedia. Also User:Tokyogirl79 Why do you keep using bullet points for indenting? Just curious... Lor Chat 05:54, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Just an OCD habit I developed during school. I'd type up notes in Word and the only way to make the notes indent properly was to use the bullet points option, so after a while it just became sort of a habit because it helped me see my notes a little easier. I know that this doesn't entirely do the same thing here on Wikipedia, but by now it's a habit I can't easily shake. Once I get into a habit, I have the hardest time changing them because I get so set in my ways. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:57, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Moved Brückner page
Hello! Thank you for moving the page User:Adlerhorst321/Brückner Textile Machine Manufacturing and not deleting it. I was not sure if I can put a German book as a reference in the article. I will use the reference I used in the German source article plus I will see if I can find an english reference. Thanks again. --Adlerhorst321 (talk) 08:30, 18 June 2014
 * No problem! Glad I could help! :) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:36, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I added references to my article, would you please check if this is enough in your opinion? thx --Adlerhorst321 (talk) 14:57, 18 June 2014

WP:ANI#Friends don't let friends edit whilst high
You are invited to join the discussion at WP:ANI. Thanks. Lor Chat 01:01, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Can you help me create an article
Hello Tokyogirl, I thought you could perhaps help me create an article or assist me on how to make it get accepted. I'm new to Wikipedia, thank you josephyossef° — Preceding undated comment added 01:29, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't guarantee that the subject will pass notability guidelines, but I don't mind helping you dig for sources and help with editing. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:27, 20 June 2014 (UTC)


 * I could give you a hand in 4 days At WP:AFC If you wanted. I'll meet requirements to work there by then...  Lor Chat 09:03, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Requests_for_undeletion
Hi. Can you check this. Also, please let me know if I am at the right forum or this request should go somewhere else.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 10:35, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm actually not that familiar with images, at least when it comes to undeletion. The big problem seems to be that there wasn't any licensing information and it didn't show where the material was taken from source-wise. I'm not sure if I could un-delete it unless we have the source, so I figured I'd leave it for one of the admins that are more familiar with image histories. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   10:38, 20 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks Tokyogirl79. The user had uploaded 32 images (they are a series) from the same source; a PD-art from a 19th century manuscript. Probably, the user used a descriptiion like in File:EkAkShara gaNapti.jpg (one in the series) where the date and source are not explicitly filled, but given in "Description" part. Is there any forum specifically for image undeletion? Do you know any admin who deals with it? -- Redtigerxyz Talk 11:09, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Atleast 50 socket puppet exits of User:Sibtain_007
Following is the list of socket puppets for Sibtain_007, he has successfully created several wikipedia articles.


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kaledit
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rahfatsalman
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fratilias
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vangpacert
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Johny_547
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Zurefer
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Barnalig
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/MurtazaHus
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Izzanholl
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Orbitaimed

If you want I can provide you more, please check created pages and delete all spam pages. 115.178.100.18 (talk) 11:01, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Do you have any specific things I can point to as evidence? If I make a new SPI, I'll need to have something to show that each of these is a sockpuppet. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   23:38, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Every page is edited by one of these accounts, either putting references or adding content. He has a particular style to create vanity pages, please check his created pages you will realize it. Why not check created pages by these users, all of them are spam. I came across a major senior spammer who has autopatrolled rights on Wikipedia, I will send details again once you handle spams of Sibtain_007. 115.178.100.18 (talk) 09:32, 23 June 2014 (UTC)


 * Lor Chat 01:43, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Lor- we'd really need some pretty specific things to point to because SPIs are a lot of work and we'd have to have some pretty big evidence to warrant requesting a checkuser. On a side note, once you have this evidence you can always open up your own SPI and detail the evidence. (You'd have to sign up with an account, of course.) Having an admin go into the SPI with you can be helpful, but it's usually better if the person that suspected the sockpuppets gets things started. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   14:03, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
 * To put it bluntly, if you really suspect sockpuppetry then it would be better to sign up with an account and put in an SPI request. I've started SPIs in the past, but I am far from being an expert at this sort of thing and it would probably be better if you at least voiced these concerns at Wikipedia talk:Sock puppetry, as it's frequented by a lot of people who are more used to setting up SPIs and whether or not one is really warranted. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   14:08, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Thank you for this recognition - it felt really nice to read that!

bonadea contributions talk 16:02, 23 June 2014 (UTC) 
 * Well, you deserve recognition! I've seen you around and you work really darn hard. I don't think I've ever seen you nominate anything for deletion without a pretty good reason and without trying to find sourcing and all that good stuff. :) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   18:51, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Zombeavers film poster.jpg
 Thanks for uploading File:Zombeavers film poster.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 21:41, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Question
Hello, I have a question for you. Back in April, I was wrongly mistaken as being a sockpuppet, and was blocked for a month until the Ban Appeals Subcommittee reviewed my request and saw that it was in error. Anyway, I created an article (Jory Collins), an NCAA Division II women's basketball coach, and I was going to continue to work on it. I was wondering if you would be willing to reverse the deletion? I hope to hear what you think. Thanks.  Corkythehornetfan  Talk 03:36, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds reasonable- I'll restore it and move it to your userspace at User:Corkythehornetfan/Jory Collins. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:41, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for help with the speedies
I also ran across Christoffer Høyer, which is a redirect to Envelope (band), and also needs to be deleted. However the page is full protected, so I couldn't tag it. Thanks again. BusterD (talk) 17:25, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Done! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:45, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Would you care to offer an opinion on best procedure? I sometimes look at Special:BrokenRedirects to see how bad the backlog has gotten. When I have time I do some CSD tagging and fix the occasional misdirected link. This is why I had so many G8s for deletion this weekend. However, there are two types of redirects I'm a bit shy about tagging for deletion:
 * 1) Those associated with a specific user, like User:Ravnwolf/Anairo Media or User:Croohan/Colleen Roohan or (especially in the form of) User:Jlsmith5963/sandbox. I'm particularly leary of tagging sandboxes for CSD when the user has some number of edits (say 50 or more). In the examples above, I'm not too worried about making a new user unhappy, since these appear to be abandoned contributions. Simply blanking another user's sandbox seems a poor choice, wiki-etiquette-wise.
 * 2) Those files which appear on the list, but on click through appear to link to a working file, like File:MAReno.jpg. I don't have a huge number of file edits, so I don't easily recognize the difference between the redlink which appears on the list and that which appears in the (apparently working) redirect File:Marcus Reno.jpg. Tagging for G8 seems wrong if the redirect is working. If the link is working (and the Reno file has appeared on the list for several months), how do I prevent the redirect from appearing on the automatically created list?
 * I know I could just tag everything, since CSD is a two-user process, but I don't want to be in the habit of tagging incorrectly or without defensible rationale. Especially if improving the link is the better option, I'd rather fix something myself instead of passing it over to someone else. BusterD (talk) 00:18, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Need help with problematic edits
Can you do me a favor and check out Arjun (2011 film)? I suspect the author has a COI, and his edits have been extremely problematic: copyvios, highly promotional language, attempts to credit the entire cast and crew, etc. I recently gave him a rather sternly-worded "final warning", as I was rather tired of cleaning up after his repeated copypasted plot summaries. His latest edit is almost acceptable, but all it did was substitute a few words for the same old copypaste. I remember that you helped me with a somewhat similar situation on a different article, so I hoping that maybe you could try to explain why his edits are so problematic. Or maybe I'm overreacting. He certainly seems to think so. I think there's a language and cultural barrier, so I'm reluctant to seek sanctions without assuming as much good faith as possible. Problem is, he's rapidly exhausting my good faith. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 10:55, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Can do- I'll also see if User:Titodutta can come help as well since he's very good at helping with stuff like this as well. I've tagged him, so he should see this post. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:28, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
 * hey, my computer is not working at this moment.i do not have much experience of editing wikipedia using android phone. Right now i tried checking the history page but unfortunately did not find it. I did too practice and learn android + wikipedia application interface and options.i'm a check it in next couple of days.

this message has been typed using androidvoice recognition. Tito ☸ Dutta 20:36, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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Thank you for speedying "tumblr-4chan war"
Hey, thanks for speedy-deleting that one article about some dispute on the internet! I'm sorta new here, I was afraid the delete request would get overturned or something. ♪♫♪ Gilded Snail (talk) 05:28, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Problem creating a page for my University
Hello,

I created a page for my university.

Link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CASS_Europe

I created twice and the page got deleted. May I know the exact reason. Also how can i create a page for my university, Can you please help me out in modifying my content and creating a page as per wikipedia guidelines.

Kindly revert back to me asap.

Thanks a bunch. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samdzever (talk • contribs) 05:41, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It was extremely promotional in tone and read like it was taken from a press release. Articles should avoid WP:PEACOCK terms and should be written in a neutral and encyclopedic tone (WP:NPOV). Another thing that came across as promotional is that you used hotlinks throughout the article. Hotlinking should be avoided as much as possible and to be honest, most will say that you should avoid hotlinking in articles period. You should link to the university's website once at the bottom of the article in the external links section. There is no need to link to each of the separate fields of study since anyone clicking on the link in the EL section should be able to navigate to those specific sections of the website themselves. On top of all of that, the article also appeared to have been WP:COPYVIO from the school's website. We cannot accept any copyright violations. (Even if the school gives up the content as fair use, the tone would still have been too promotional to keep on Wikipedia.) Finally, I'm assuming that since you said "my university" that you are either a student at the university and/or you are someone who is getting some sort of payment (academic assignment/grade, money, and so on) in exchange for creating the article. Please be aware that this constitutes a conflict of interest and as such, you do need to be up front about this. I would probably recommend that you ask for help via one of the applicable WikiProjects (such as this one) to help ensure that any COI concerns are dealt with. I'd also recommend creating articles via WP:AfC since you are a new user with a conflict of interest. You would still have to meet notability and neutrality guidelines, but it wouldn't be immediately deleted if it comes across as promotional, as would be the case with anything created in the mainspace. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:08, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

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New article...
Howdy. You're about the most "literary" editor I know and this is a bit new for me - I've created California (Edan Lepucki novel) and wondered if you might have a look at it for me. I'm hoping to take it to DYK in the next couple of days. Any advice or guidance would be appreciated. Cheers,  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 12:36, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd try to get more reviews in the reception section to help vouch for the generally positive reviews claim. Most books usually receive fairly decent or a "mixed to positive" type of reception, so it shouldn't be hard to back that up. I'm slightly worried that the Boston Globe review was a bit more ambivalent than it was positive, so you might get some guff over that. I usually try to include a negative review in reception sections just to show a bit of difference and allay the whole "you only wanna do positive reviews" thing. I've had that thrown at me a few times, so I started trying to throw in a bit more of a mix and mention some of the criticisms if a review mentioned them quite a bit. If you can find enough, I like doing the type of sentence like "common criticisms were..." and "common elements of praise were..." because it's a good way to include a lot of sources in a few sentences. Other than that, it looks pretty good. The Colbert thing is pretty interesting and will probably get a lot of clicks. :) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   23:29, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks for the advice!  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 03:10, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Changed your hook
Feel free to revert this. EEng (talk) 01:17, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! I've added a primary source to back up the legally blind mention about Taylor's wife- I think that it's also mentioned in one of the other sources and I probably got it mixed up with the other sources while I was writing the article. On a side note I want to thank everyone that helped it go through DYK- hopefully it can get the series a few more fans. It's one of those indie series that would be (and probably is) on a list of "the best comics you're not reading". Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   13:25, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for A Voice in the Dark (comics)
The DYK project (nominate) 22:43, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Jessica Concha
Hi Tokyogirl79, this article needs a champion to fight for it: Jessica Concha. Hope you win. scope_creep talk 18:38 27 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do! BTW, it's kind of trippy that your signature is saying March! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   00:45, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello and Thanks!
Hello Tokyogirl! I've been meaning to write for a while; I just wanted to thank you for helping out with many of the AfDs I posted. I'm glad you're able to find references for the articles. I just wish I knew how you did it! -- Mikeblas (talk) 15:29, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem! You've done the same for me in the past! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:45, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

inre Draft:Found Footage 3D
On June 16, you advised that we await the film's release before moving the article to mainspace. However, I remind you of WP:NFF (paragraph 3) and its advising that an article on an unreleased film may be considered if filming has been confirmed to have begun (and in this case it has completed) and the production having received enough attention to meet WP:N. That said, I seek your approval in my moving this to mainspace. Thanks,  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 00:03, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Looks like you guys wrapped that up before I could even get back on! I'm pretty glad to see it in the mainspace! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:26, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Lovebot
Thanks for the save and the referencing improvements. Given what you've done, I'm willing to withdraw the Love Invasion nom and just immediately redirect it to Lovebot, if you have no objections. Bearcat (talk) 16:03, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Scott Disick
Thanks for the update. I knew about the speedy delete decline since I had the page watchlisted. It makes me queasy to have the Disick page on Wikipedia, but I don't know how to do 2nd and 3rd AfDs; last time I tried was a disaster. Quis separabit? 18:47, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * You can tag the article with 3rd, which will place the template at the top of the page. You'd also use the edit summary Afd: Nominated for deletion; see Articles for deletion/Scott Disick (3rd nomination) in the applicable section at the bottom. From there you pretty much just follow the directions that come up on the page (post ~ on the applicable page and notify anyone majorly involved with the page). Tokyogirl79  (｡◕‿◕｡)   18:51, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Would that be ~ or   ~ ?? Is it a 2nd or 3rd AFD? Quis separabit? 19:00, 8 August 2014 (UTC)


 * I did it but naturally I screwed it up. Quis separabit?  23:29, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I notified the most recent re-creator of the Disick article. Quis separabit?  23:56, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Whatcha' think... magic, or just luck?
 Schmidt,  Michael Q. 04:43, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

About picture
Hello dear user. Can I ask you one thing to do (if you have time): is it possible to upload this picture (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2565774080/nm0605080?ref_=nm_phs_md_6) from imbd site to use it in Trevor Morgan (actor) article, with following descrpition: Trevor Morgan in 2001. If you can, plz help. Thanks in advance. M.Karelin (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Uploads get fairly tricky when it comes to photos of that nature. We can claim fair use for things like film posters and book covers, but photos like that are usually owned by a specific person and/or company. You'd have to be able to track down who took it, get their permission to use it on Wikipedia, and then run that permission through WP:ORTS before uploading it. That said, the other big issue with that photo is that it's from 2001 and is thus very out of date, as he's now in his late 20s and that photo was taken when he was about 15. It'd be best if we had a photo from the last 3-4 years, as the primary purpose of the photo would be to identify Morgan and in many cases people can change quite a bit from childhood to adulthood. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:35, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

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Naru2u
I need some direction on how to handle an issue, the original admin who handled this has gone inactive. Naru2u was deleted via PROD, then userfyed at the request of the author. It has now been restored without any changes to notability. Would this be a speedy delete or would I have to have to create a full deletion discussion? Thanks. Esw01407 (talk) 23:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd recommend going through AfD for this. Someone could probably argue for notability based on the fact that it's a recurring event, so it may just barely squeak through a speedy deletion and make AfD inevitable. Basically, AfD would be the best bet here because then we'd have a fairly definitive answer on notability. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   13:25, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Offhand I'm not seeing anything that would really show notability for it. It looks to be your fairly run of the mill small anime convention. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   13:30, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Ouch. I'm really not finding sources and even the non-usable fan-type sources are pretty slim. The most I've found is this blog post, which is far from complimentary. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   13:34, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

18:45:52, 21 August 2014 review of submission by Fpordes
Fpordes (talk) 18:45, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Hello Tokyogirl79,

Not sure whether you will receive this message or whether it is public? Hopefully not public but what on the Internet is not public?

Just wanted to say 'thank you so much!' for helping me with the article on Twist Phelan. You are obviously way advanced than I am in making articles just right and everything you mentioned makes a lot of sense and is the reason why I love using Wikipedia as my number 1 go-to for information that is more objective than most other places.

I am neither paid :-( nor did I copy and paste pages from Twist's website. Have never submitted an article and had thought 'Contributions' was the place to put the material until I worked through the Wiki tutorial (and another YouTube one) and since then was trying to climb the (for me) steep learning curve as fast as possible.  Happy to give more details but prefer not to do it in such a public space.

Anyway, thank you very much for taking the time to edit the article to the standards I have come to expect from Wikipedia.

Have a great day,

Fpordes (talk) 18:45, 21 August 2014 (UTC) squiggles above: did I manage to sign off correctly?
 * You did. (sign off correctly, that is) :) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:40, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * And oh yea- want a big slice of this crow pie I'm eating? I remember writing that I didn't see that much coverage for her (meaning that I didn't think she was notable) and then a little extra searching proved me wrong. I actually enjoy it when that happens now- it's better to be proven wrong about an article's notability than to be proven right! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:00, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

A favor if you might...
I've admired how you have so many times built up articles to show their notability. So how would you feel about doing the opposite? The film Deadly Impact is easily determinable as meeting WP:NFF, and has plenty of available sources.... but is suffering at AFD because some (perhaps unskilled) editors think that rather than address issues (which they could do) they quote the essay WP:TNT in supporting it be deleted entirely, and started over from scratch (by someone else). I will be unable to do so myself for a few days, so I would ask that you might lend your skills to reducing it's way overlong plot section to something far less unwieldy, and then perhaps flesh out its reception section just a bit. Up for the (text) weight-loss and (quality) fitness challenge??  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 09:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a challenge! (starts rolling up sleeves, realize that they're already short, decides to crack open a diet Pepsi instead) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:28, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

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multiple pages and multiple deletions
Hello, regarding , you may also wish to check out which came to my attention via Help_desk. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  19:48, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hmm... that does pose a pretty big problem. I've already moved it to the userspace, but from what you're saying it looks like it is very, very unlikely that it'll ever pass notability guidelines, at least in the near future. I'm leaning towards just letting it sit and then we can delete it eventually as an abandoned AfC article, assuming that the editor abandons it (which is almost always the case in these situations). Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   19:50, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Tenure
Would you please look at the talk page for "Tenure" and see if you can suggest anything. He's deleted it twice and I don't think he's right, but don't know what else to do. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deisenbe (talk • contribs) 10:20, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Undeletion of bethel Assembly Of God Thuvayoor
Could you please tell me .How can i prevent that page from deletion and How to remove the deletion notice from the tp of that page ?? Please
 * Right now the only way to keep the page from being deleted is to establish notability by showing how the church has received coverage in independent and reliable sources per WP:RS. The sources do not have to be in English and can be in Hindi or any other language that the coverage may be in. I'd also recommend that you ask for help at WP:INDIA, as they might be able to help you find sourcing in one of the languages spoken in India (I know that there are multiple ones besides the two major languages of Hindi and English). Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:46, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * How can i establish a notability.Please tell me
 * There are multiple ways. Does India have a historical register and if so, is your church building listed on it? If so, then the church would pass notability on that front, as is the case with Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart, Newark, New Jersey. Otherwise, you will have to show things like news stories about the church, like this news story. Like I said, they don't have to be in English. If the coverage has been predominantly in another language, you can use that as well. If you have coverage for the church that isn't on the Internet (like a newspaper that was never uploaded onto the Internet), you can use that as well- although you should be prepared for someone to ask for you to provide a scan of the article in question if necessary. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:07, 2 September 2014 (UTC)


 * where I have to show that??
 * Are you on facebook.So I can talk to you personnaly please please
 * If you have sources, you can post them on the article using the cite function or you can post them at the AfD to show notability. I do have a facebook account, but I don't give it out. I do apologize for that, but I try to keep my Wikipedia account separate from my facebook/private account. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:05, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Hazrat Maulana Muhammad Hashim Samangani RA
Hi Tokyogirl79

Does this Hazrat Maulana Muhammad Hashim Samangani RA look familiar? See Maulana Mohammad Hashim Samangani RA if you need a reminder. Regards, 220  of  Borg 16:58, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It's almost identical for the most part, as are the usernames. It looks like they were trying to avoid detection, which is a little disappointing since I hadn't blocked the original user or restricted them at all so there was no reason for them to do this. I figure I'll block the newer of the two accounts and leave a warning on the page for the main account, since obvious sock is obvious. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:44, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks 'TG'. I see someone else CSD'd it and MaterialScientist deleted it. Not sure if there is a hint of notability there, hard to tell with no refs! At least there isn't, yet, multiple IPs and a whole sockfarm about. See Jalpaiguri for example, lots of 'fun' there recently! --220  of  Borg 05:05, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Chris Dominguez
Thanks for that. Can you delete User:Yankees10/Chris Dominguez and User:Chris Dominguez? Thanks--Yankees10 07:11, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Done! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:22, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

CoSign by ARX
Hi Tokyogirl79

I saw that the page CoSign by ARX was deleted for advertising. If you could give suggestions as to how to rewrite (what to remove, change, etc), that would be great. I'd like to try again and make it fitting for Wikipedia. Thanks so much! Drcarver (talk) 08:57, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll transfer a copy to your userspace, as the biggest issue was how some of the article was phrased. An example would be this sentence:
 * "CoSign serves a horizontal need, satisfying digital signature requirements across any industry that requires signatures, and can be used anywhere a pen is currently used to sign paper. "
 * While this is what the product does, it's written in sort of a promotional advert-ish type manner. Removing the term "satisfying" would be a good start, as that's the thing that really stood out in that sentence. I think I'd re-write it like "CoSign can be used to replace traditional pen-and-paper signatures, in any industry that requires signatures." That's pretty clunky (so I wouldn't say to use that one as-is), but it's a more succinct way of putting it without it immediately coming across as promotional. The whole article had sentences like that, which is why I'd deleted it. However that said, I have no problem with restoring it to your userspace since it's not so promotional that it's unsalvageable. (Sorry if that comes across as rude! It's just that I've seen out-and-out promotions and I do think that you are operating in good faith here, meaning that I don't think that this was intentional spam.) Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:29, 1 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Done! You can find it at User:Drcarver/CoSign by ARX. On a side note, you probably will need to provide more sourcing, as some of the sources are primary or could be argued away as blog sourcing. I'm a big fan of the "more is better" type of gal when it comes to sourcing articles, in any case. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:33, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! I'll get to work on it. Would you be able to give feedback on it once I've done a rewrite? Drcarver (talk) 08:43, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure- I wouldn't mind. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   08:49, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Tokyogirl - I worked on the article, trying to eliminate any promotional-sounding phrases. Could you take a look (User:Drcarver/CoSign by ARX)and tell me what you think? Thanks so much! Drcarver (talk) 06:56, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, Tokyogirl - I'm sure you're probably busy (I know you're in school and such), but if you have the time to check out the rewritten article, that would be amazing. Thanks! Drcarver (talk) 06:55, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll try to take a look at it sometime tonight. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:57, 11 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, Tokyogirl! Just touching base to see if you had the opportunity to look at the page. Thanks so much! Drcarver (talk) 07:31, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Random Question
What are you going to or are majoring in college? - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:07, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Library science, hopefully in digital archiving if they have it available by the time I'm finished with the general requirements for my degree. It's such a shame that so many sources aren't available on the Internet, partially due to a lack of money to get them up but also largely due to a lack of manpower. I'd say that it's awful that I'm so excited over the idea of that, but then I suppose I should be that excited. XD Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:51, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * lol, well when ever you ask a question about something the answer is almost always because money. The good news? You get to be an expert in the Dewey Decimal System in no time, but I would guess side effects would come with it too such as counting numbers in your sleep. Anyways best of luck with everything! =) - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:04, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Full protection of The Fappening
Hi Tokyogirl79, just wondering why you indefinitely full protected ? Given that there hasn't been any disruption following the RFD and that the semi protection was working (apart from that one edit which looks like a test). Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 08:21, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * There was a bit of a consensus at the RfD for this (protection of some sort, anyway) and it just seemed like it'd be a good idea, as there was a separate attempt to create the page at Fappening. I figured that full protection would probably become inevitable, so might as well just do it now. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   10:27, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Re the consensus you mentioned, there were three people supporting protection (I'm assuming full) including you and one supporting semi and another supporting the current protection (level). Given that the closing admin didn't feel it necessary to fully protect I'm not sure any protection is justified except maybe an extension on the semi or an indef semi. But I definitely can't see a justification in the protection policy for indef full protection. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:40, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll undo it, but I have a feeling that it'll become inevitable, though. There's no reason to have it as anything other than a redirect and given that there are still some people arguing to rename the leak article to "The Fappening", I just feel that it will just become an inevitability and it'd just be better to indef now (especially since indeffing won't really harm anything) than to just keep re-upping the semi protection. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   10:44, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I've got no problem with indef semi, we would also have good cause to block anyone who does anything to the redirect given there is crystal clear RFD. I'll keep an eye on it as well. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:51, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
 * K- I've changed it to an indef semi protection. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   11:02, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

ContentBridge
Some discussion for you on Talk:ContentBridge. Thanks 009o9 (talk) 16:47, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/C. Courtney Joyner
Hi I've deleted this article as it was created by a sockpuppet, but if you want to create it I don't mind and of course you have access to the deleted article. Or I guess I could if you'd prefer. Would you ping me if you reply? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 06:39, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd prefer if you were to restore it and let it run through the AfD. There's enough assertion of notability there to where it'd be best if it went through a proper AfD and I'd also re-written it fairly extensively to where most of the sock's material was either removed or re-written. The only stuff I didn't remove was the section about awards since I was having a little trouble sourcing that, but otherwise it was pretty much all me. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:41, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm not terribly invested in keeping the article but there is enough of an assertion of notability there that I'd like to have it go through the rest of the AfD process. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   06:42, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Done. Apologies, I'd checked the edit history of the others and they hadn't had any significant edits by anyone else, but I failed to check this one and only just now after you pinged me noticed that you'd been editing it. Thanks for letting me know so quickly. Dougweller (talk) 06:55, 7 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Eh, no problem. I was wondering if it was going to be deleted or not. Thanks for restoring it. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   07:20, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

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FIX ISSUE OF RAKESH BISWAS ARTICLE
Kindly fix the issue of Rakesh biswas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakesh_Biswas, as i have been created his page for many times and always it get deleted on providing good references .Fix as soon as possible

Thanks and Regard , cyberbotking — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.215.224.244 (talk) 09:27, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but no. It was deleted via an AfD and you appear to be User:Rakesh biswas01 attempting to avoid a block, so I've blocked your account. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:30, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * And don't ask the other parent. Biswas has already asked and myself.--  Laun  chba  ller  09:42, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

So how to make it again appear in wekipedia, is there is any solution.if yes , kindly support us , i will be thankful to you.

Thanks and Regard , cyberbotking — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.215.224.244 (talk) 09:27, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No. This is non-negotiable. I will not restore it. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   09:48, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

kindly help us for this issue, we will be helpful and you can visit rakesh biswas magnificent work in such a small age www.rakeshbiswas.in and he extreme popular among the youth and i am his follower , so if possible kindly do it. Thanks and Regard , cyberbotking — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.215.224.244 (talk) 09:27, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
De728631 (talk) 19:12, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Spam blacklist
You are an admin, so you can add domains to it. No need to propose them. Just a heads up, unless you were just being super duper by-the-book there § FreeRangeFrog  croak 04:41, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't hurt to be BTB, but mostly I just wasn't aware that I could do that- I thought you had to be a bureaucrat or have special privileges above the admin level. I'll probably lurk on the page for a while and kind of monitor what they do since I'm fairly unfamiliar with the process. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * It's easy, just follow the instructions and make sure you leave an entry on the log. The page has all the instructions. Or just request it from another admin if you don't want to do it yourself. No biggie. § FreeRangeFrog croak 04:46, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
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Request on 09:45:13, 10 September 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Dkeilty
Nearly there- just want to get it right next time

Hi Tokyo girl- How many more reviews and news articles about book would I need to cite? Dkeilty (talk) 09:45, 10 September 2014 (UTC) Dkeilty (talk) 09:45, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I usually like to have about 2-3 reviews and maybe one article talking about the book, as that would help keep it safe from WP:AfD nominations. The big difficulty here is that you won't be able to use blog sources or anything that would fall under WP:SPS, which makes getting reviews and articles for books more difficult sometimes. If you do need reviews, I could recommend a few places. Trade review sites like Publishers Weekly, School Library Journal, and the like can help but they tend to get a stinkeye at deletion discussions so we can't rely overly much on those. They're the kind of thing that can help, but only if we have quite a few other sources. Have any of your local papers reviewed the book? (I'm assuming per your username that you are the author or someone that knows or works with him.) We could use that- sometimes local sources are depreciated because they're local, but they're still usable. Don't worry if any of this sounds labyrinthine or overly complicated because honestly... it is. Trying to scout out what is or isn't usable is often a pretty frustrating endeavor because if it's up for deletion then people will pick sources apart. (I'm not saying the article is up for anything, but I figure that if we can source it to where it'll be safe from the start, then we won't have to worry after it's put in the mainspace.) Anywho, as far as sourcing goes, I'd recommend talking to Tor.com, SF Signal, Horn Book Guide, Locus Online, and the like. There's never a guarantee of reviews (although it should be easier now that the book has been optioned), but they're places that are considered to be absolutely reliable. Papers like The Independent and the Irish Times are good as well- generally speaking, almost all newspaper reviews will be usable for the most part. On a side note, if multiple books in the series have received reviews then we could always do a series page as opposed to an entry for the first book. Those are usually easier to source since the sources usually pile up more easily when we look at stuff for multiple entries. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:33, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh! Almost forgot- coverage doesn't have to be in English! If you have a review in say, French, it's still usable as long as it's in a place Wikipedia considers to be reliable. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:34, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * You already have one review on there, so maybe one more review and an article about the book? That should be enough for the most part, when we add in the movie mention. It'll still be considered light by some of the more stringent editors, so we'd still have to add, but offhand that shoudl be good. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:37, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I notice that you (still assuming you're the author) were on Richard and Judy a few years back. Were you just on there briefly (I saw a mention of you making oatmeal) or did you have a bit of a sit down to talk about the series? If so, then that'd be usable if we could find more of a mention of that somewhere. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:39, 11 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, btw- if you see some editing on the AfC article, that's probably me. I've found some stuff via Highbeam. Tokyogirl79  (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:41, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Durr... just noticed that you had the link to the R&J on there. Sorry about that- I tend to get excited about sourcing book articles so I sometimes forget things a little. I think I have enough to pass it through AfC, so fingers crossed that you'll come on here to find teh article in the mainspace. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   05:49, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Deletion of my userpage
I've noticed that you've deleted my user page again after some other problem user created it. Only now did I see the new entry in its deletion log. What happened? Oh, and is there a way that one can make it so that no one else other than me can create my userpage? Gparyani (talk) 22:11, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I've set it so only autoconfirmed editors can edit it, but I don't know if I can set it to where only you can edit it. Let me ask around and see what I can do. I know that I can lock it so nobody other than an admin can edit it, but then you wouldn't be able to use it. I've created a little test area on it, so that's where the "this is a userpage and not a mirror" thing came from. I'll ask around and see if anyone else knows any tricks. I've got your userpage on my watch list now, so I'll try to help prevent any vandalism. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:40, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Request on 22:21:37, 11 September 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Dkeilty
Wow! Thanks so much, Tokyogirl, just saw this and it looks great. So glad to see it up. Thanks again. Dkeilty (talk) 22:21, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

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Request on 21:33:43, 12 September 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Hcrater
Dear Tokyogirl79, I have a question about an important part of your review of my paper on The Society for Planetary SETI Research (SPSR). In your review you state "Secondly, we need sources that focus on the society itself. I see plenty of mentions of things that members have done, but as notability is WP:NOTINHERITED by the individual accomplishments of members you must show notability by way of independent and reliable sources that focus on the society itself." I have done a search for sources that mention SPSR and in most all of them the focus is on work that has been done by particular members of the society in the area of planetary SETI. The "society itself" is a collection of scientists and scholars whose common interest is a scientific approach to the study of possible martian artifacts. Thus the sources would inevitably deal with one aspect or another of this subject, invariably mentioning the planetary SETI research of one or more of its members...Before I do a rewrite of the planned article (which would include the encyclopedic aspects) I would like some guidance from you on whether the sources I have located qualify for the sources you would like to see. What follows is a sampling of the sources: http://www.21stcenturyradio.com/spsr-11.13.00.htm http://journalofcosmology.com/Commentary204.html http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/cydonia.html http://www.ultor.org/The%20Society%20for%20Planetary%20SETI%20Research.htm http://metaresearch.org/solar%20system/cydonia/asom/asomtext.htm http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/marte/esp_marte_29.htm http://www.mactonnies.com/imperative23.html http://www.setileague.org/admin/alexey.htm http://posthumanblues.blogspot.com/2006/09/misleading-text-from-esa-face-on-mars.html http://www.maxtheknife.com/The%20following%20is%20taken%20from%20Dr.htm

Thank you for your time

Horace Crater

Hcrater (talk) 21:33, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

AFCH script
2014-09-11T06:24:40 Tokyogirl79 (Talk | contribs) moved page Draft:Will Gallows and the Snake Bellied Troll to Will Gallows and the Snake Bellied Troll (Created via Articles for creation (you can help!) (AFCH))

As you're using the old version of the AFCH script, please take a look at this discussion and the question (poll) raised below it. --Gryllida (talk) 11:13, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

The Second Chance Childrens Charity
Back in June you rejected an article we submitted.

07:39, 18 June 2014 Tokyogirl79 (talk | contribs) deleted page Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Second Chance Children's Charity (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: G13, but also close paraphrasing of http://www.second-chance.org.uk/)

We do have many newspaper/magazine and television articles about us I just didnt list them. If I were to make a list could we ask for our entry to be reassessed? The point about close paraphrasing our website merely reflects the historical accuracy of the website. If so how do we do that?

Kindest regards

Doug hulme BEd, Cert Ed, CFPS Chief Executive The Second Chance Children's Charity www.second-chance.org.uk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.254.137 (talk) 21:16, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

If you would not mind...
I advised that any suggestions for changes from someone with a COI should be made on the talk page for others to review and add or not. Seems my advice was taken. So I would prefer you look at this, remove any puffery, and advise about its sources. Thank,  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 00:54, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

About KraVen (entertainer), Articles for deletion/Lord KraVen
Hi TYG79. This article has sat in the CSD category for a few days now. There are now some refs (such as they are) added that may indicate some significance for this artist. Do you think another WP:AfD might be the better option? Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:51, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
 * No, it'd ultimately be a waste of time even if we did restore it- and I don't say that very often about articles. (At this point in time it's been speedied.) The problem is, all of the claims in the article are the same as the ones that were made when the article went to AfD last time. While the article creator did try to add more sources, the article is pretty much word-for-word the same article that was brought up at AfD and the sources all had the same issues as the ones that were shown at the last AfD. Ultimately what happened in this situation is that we have someone is is only slightly notable for a few things: that one of his songs appeared in a TV show and that he had a squabble with a notable person. The song appearance never turned into news coverage for the singer at all and his squabble was ultimately fairly minor and would be seen as one of those things that would fall under WP:NOT. As far as his other claims go, those were all things that were overly puffed up to be something more than they were: I know that at the AfD one person made the argument that because KraVen had been invited to notable gatherings (or to gatherings in general) that this made him notable by association, and that because he was on an album, that this made him notable as well- despite the fact that there were no RS reviews or coverage that mentioned him anywhere. A good example of how puffed up the claims was the statement "In 2000, KraVen guest starred on the Image Award-winning television series, "City of Angels" starring Blair Underwood and on Golden Globe-winning medical drama television series, "ER"." Those "starring" roles were both bit parts as "Football Player 1" and "Patient"- bit parts, to be specific and ones that aren't considered to give notability. The guy's pretty non-notable per our standards at the end of the day and the AfC article was kind of this guy's last ditch attempt to get a fairly promotional article on to Wikipedia. Again, running it through AfD would ultimately be a waste of time because the claims were found to ultimately be a case of puffery and promotional-speak and that none of the claims were ultimately enough to prove notability. Running it through another AfD would just end up with the same result: deletion. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   03:38, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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 * Just FYI, Flickr does have several Belle Knox photos that do meet our licensing https://secure.flickr.com/search/?q=belle+knox&l=commderiv&ct=0&mt=all&adv=1 - Did you use the Flickr upload wizard? I'm suprised it let you upload that file since it had an invalid license. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:51, 30 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I didn't know that there was a Flickr upload wizard, to be honest. I don't normally do photos of this nature- normally it's just posters and book covers, so I thought it was allowed since we weren't going to be using it for profit. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   04:22, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

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Autumn vacation
Hi, how's it going,

Some editors on this article are not being civil on the matter. Although I am interested to see how universal suffrage would be for the people of Hong Kong, the way a few (quite a few) unscrupulous editors have conducted themselves is contrary to Wikipedia polices, immoral actions can never justify a cause, no matter how noble.

Here are two of the editors that are working in tandem 24/7 towards the article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Signedzzz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Underbar_dk

They reverted everything by these 2 users, and have stated that those are my accounts on a report.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:STSC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Auteny

Here are some examples:

"The protesters... media coverage about their high degree of organisation, politeness, tidiness, and staunch adherence to nonviolence."
 * Wholesale blanking of sections or anything, even genuninely sourced information, opposed to blatant errors or honest mistakes
 * Removal of genuinely sourced information and stating in the comments that it was unsourced.
 * Injection of bullshit into the article. (pardon). Some examples would include:
 * Describing the movement as "spontaneous movement of the masses"
 * They keep labeling the movement as autonomous. Being autonomous would imply that the movement has already reached a critical mass. There are at least two logical fallacies that would imply as a result, that would mean that the movement has become violent, and second, it means it has spiraled out of control.
 * These 2 editors wrote that the whole City of Hong Kong supported the protests, which is not the case. "People of Hong Kong"
 * Use of multiple sockpuppets accounts to achieve their means
 * Stating I am vandalizing (you can check the edit history and compare the difference between my edits and the previous one).

I'd like your opinion on this matter without our being involved, or perhaps a one-liner explaining on the talk page and on the Administrators' noticeboard that I am not the same person as STSC would be helpful. If you feel that they have mistaken in assuming for good faith and you want to change the article back to its original context, I'll help with cleaning it up. :) Thank you.

Dark Liberty (talk) 20:13, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Some examples of edits, these 2 editors placed movement has become fully autonomous or inserted the phrase "spontaneous movement of the masses" on the right-hand pane which took 3 days of reverting these edits before they stopped.


 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2014_Hong_Kong_protests&oldid=628108281
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2014_Hong_Kong_protests&oldid=627997937

A random example of my edits in a single day (Most of the changes are mine with the exception of the student editors' insert of "violently charged").

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2014_Hong_Kong_protests&diff=628209049&oldid=628143309

Dark Liberty (talk) 21:11, 4 October 2014 (UTC)