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The Howards of Virginia
Thanks for the fix for 'eldest'--yes, it would be elder. I disagree with the deletion of 'both' but it's not a biggie; this would be a stylistic difference. He was, after all, BOTH her elder brother AND a member of the Tidewater aristocracy, but with several commas in the same sentence I can see how the phrasing could be confusing. Best, Fiona Marissa 16:29, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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I believe you made a typo in your closing at Articles for deletion/Sunrise Senior Living (2nd nomination)...-- Mojo Hand (talk) 15:57, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I have corrected it. Rlendog (talk) 19:24, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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Indefinite block of an IP
Greetings! I see you blocked indefinitely for what appears to be garden-variety abuse. Have you got some information that this IP is being used as a proxy? Otherwise, because IP addresses can be recycled and used by multiple people, IP addresses typically aren't indefinitely blocked. —C.Fred (talk) 14:55, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
 * If you want to shorten to a mere lengthy block of a year or so, I am fine with that. I blocked another IP that was almost certainly a sockpuppet of this one, and of the page this IP edited (i'e., throwing in gratuitous templates, and what would draw an IP to this particular user page to edit in any case), for a year and another admin extended it to indef.  So I just did this one at indef myself, but I am fine with making it a long definite. Rlendog (talk) 15:02, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Asadulla pasha
Hi, With reference to Articles for deletion/Asadulla pasha, I found that this page has been deleted, despite much improvement and additional citations to make notability verifiable per Wiki guidelines. It leaves a Wikipedian like me, who created many new pages and edited a lot, in complete bewilderment and astonishment. You would have taken few more minutes to re-check the last modified version, which was improved during deletion phase, before deleting the page based on voting. User:Fasiullah 14:30, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * There was a consensus that the additional sources added were not significant enough to meet WP:GNG. I do not disagree with that consensus, but if you believe that I was incorrect to delete the article you can have the decision reviewed at Deletion review. Rlendog (talk) 22:43, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information. However, I still believe the revised page had good number of verifiable citations to meet WP:GNG. There is a few days gap between when the discussion stopped and the page last modified. Hence I requested you for a recheck. The page could have been improved rather than deleted, for more inputs. Please suggest if the deleted page could be restored, with any further condition, or a new page could be added. Because, when I checked Deletion review page, it suggested to discuss the issue with admin before raising a request. Would be grateful if you extend any help in this regard. User:Fasiullah 04:57, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I did not see anything in the article that contradicted the viewpoints on the sources that were discussed in the AfD. They seemed similar if not the same as those sources (e.g., refs that he was captain of a golf team).  You have fulfilled the suggestion to discuss with the admin, but I did not see anything in the article that would suggest that the consensus in the AfD was incorrect.  I could be wrong, but that woud be flor DRV to determine. Since you have discussed with the admin first, you need not feel any inhibition about going to DRV. Rlendog (talk) 12:15, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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in the KWW/TRM arb case you wrote"


 * "And of course, that puts aside the fact that Philip Seymour Hoffman If ArbCom wants to clarify that the source must be included in the same edit as the fact because we cannot tolerate a few minutes lag time under even non-inflammatory circumstances, that ought to be made explicit in the NLP policy, and that would also necessitate other significant changes (such as semi-protecting all BLPs, since new editors are unlikely to regularly reliably source their edits)".

Even if I remove the "Philip Seymour Hoffman", I am still having trouble understanding what you wrote. Perhaps you could split it into multiple sentences? --Guy Macon (talk) 01:23, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Looks like I deleted a few words. I'll fix that. Rlendog (talk) 01:25, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

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Um, reading through historical cost, I can neither find any words resembling "amortized" nor any concepts resembling amortization on it. Can you please point them out to me? &mdash;SamB (talk) 19:39, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * In accounting amortized cost is a common method of applying historical cost. Rlendog (talk) 21:17, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * See for example alternative 1 here. Rlendog (talk) 21:20, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

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If You Can't Rock Me
Now I can't get the damn song out of my head. I'm going to end up ordering the CD. Drmies (talk) 15:35, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Shall I put it up at DYK? Do you need more ribbons on your user page? Drmies (talk) 15:37, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I can't think of a good hook off the top of my head (although with the sexual double entendre there should be one) but if you can think of one I don't have a problem if you nominate it. Rlendog (talk) 16:26, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * That's what I was thinking of. Thanks for writing it up. Drmies (talk) 16:57, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

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User:Nomoonman was recently blocked by you for personal attacks. Some discussion with him on his talk page about how and whether to achieve his apparent aim (higher precision in whale measurements) has so far been distinguished by plentiful further insults. This suggests that he doesn't get that you can't talk on WP like on 4Chan, and that things are quite likely to go south again as soon as he comes off his block. An extension might be warranted; but I don't know if that would be usual procedure. You may want to have a look and make the call. Cheers. -- Elmidae (talk) 05:22, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, and now he appears to be sockpuppeting :/ [] [] [] -- Elmidae (talk) 05:27, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I already opened a sockpuppet investigation before the fact that this is a sockpuppet became this blatant. But since I am the one who opened the investigation, I would prefer to let another admin close it. Rlendog (talk) 16:08, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Following on from this, I have left a message here you may be interested in. Also, I don't know if you know, but User:GammaCepheus001 bears an uncanny resemblance to User:Jonas Poole, who was banned some long time ago. Regards, Xyl 54 (talk) 00:44, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Also (to let you know) the latest incarnation was here. Xyl 54 (talk) 23:00, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I have been away a few days but I suspect you are correct about Jonas and Nomoonman. I had left a note for the admin who conducted the checkuser on Nomoonman here but it appears that any technical link between the 2 is stale,  Which isn't to say it can't be pursued on behavioral grounds. Rlendog (talk) 12:23, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

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user:Planonasus + IP 109.29.22.222
I noticed you 3-month-blocked user:Planonasus in September. I would point out that IP 109.29.22.222, who edits essentially the same articles in a near-identical manner, has been busy editing ever since. The striking overlap of these "two" users was already noted on both their talk pages a year ago (also at wiki's Fish project here). Interestingly this long-time IP actually "disappeared" in April when blocked for disruptive editing by Stemonitis. Directly after there was a surge in edits by user:Planonasus. You then blocked user:Planonasus recently and shortly after the IP reappeared. At this point I have no overall opinion of the block of Planonasus (the user is peculiar to say the least, mixing clearly useful edits with disruptive, and unresponsive on his/her talk page), but this whole matter does look rather like a second case of block evasion – first when the IP was blocked by Stemonitis in April, then when user:Planonasus was blocked by you in September. Regards 62.107.192.20 (talk) 18:08, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your message. I suspect you are correct about the IP being Planonasus, and if you want to pursue it further you can request a check user.  One thing I have not seen from the IP is the type of cut and paste moves that I blocked Planonasus for, but I will keep an eye on the situation.  Rlendog (talk) 18:00, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. Well, for now I've added a warning after one of the standard edits. I'm not all that familiar with the warning system, but I took the one that seemed to be the best match. If you look through the two talk page(s) and the earlier discussions on WP:FISH you may notice that the problematic behavior and numerous warnings virtually always fit into one of the following:


 * 1) Removal of citations (especially FishBase, despite the fact that it's WP:FISH's main taxonomic source), occasionally also with random citations switches (old citations being exchanged for new, even if the new doesn't support the info on wiki) and/or complete removal of taxonomic sections.
 * 2) Removal of  parentheses vs. authority in places where it is wrong (based on a fast look he/she doesn't seem to do this anymore; earlier blocks by Stemonitis were for this).
 * 3) Copy-and-paste moves (what you blocked him/her for).
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Saadat Ali Khan II
Hello, I see that Sadat Ali Khan II, is given as of Persian origin, but his Paternal line, descendant of the Turkish Oguz Tribe of Kara Koyunlu trough Kara Yusuf. So he is of Turkish origin.

See here: http://www.royalark.net/India4/oudh4.htm
 * This website appears to be self-published and thus not necessarily a reliable source per Wikipedia guidelines. Rlendog (talk) 21:10, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thank you and same to you. Rlendog (talk) 14:22, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thank you very much. Happy holidays to you too! Rlendog (talk) 21:43, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

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About The Who Articles
The problem with keeping these up is that there's so many of these song articles that aren't backed up the appropriate sources and 0 people willing on working to fix this. This directly does not align with Identifying reliable sources. Instead of just reverting my edits (which keep non-cited information based articles that only bother citing fan magazines, album liner notes, and other sources that should never be a primary source for an album,) how about you find some reliable secondary and tertiary sources so these articles actually have a leg to stand on?

I'd nominate them some for deletion, but there's so many I don't know where to start. Mrmoustache14 (talk) 22:08, 23 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Some of the articles I reverted could be decent if someone put in the effort to back them up properly, but until then It'd be better if they were just left alone. I mean where did people even include the information they did in those articles? From memory? By guessing? By reading a source, but failing to cite it? Why keep lazily made articles that don't comply with Wikipedia's policies up? I don't get it. Mrmoustache14 (talk) 22:16, 23 June 2016 (UTC)


 * I've already added secondary sources to two of the articles I reverted and there are more that can be used. I will be adding sources to the others as well. Pretty much every Who song has multiple secondary sources available to use, and charting singles generally have more. Rlendog (talk) 22:17, 23 June 2016 (UTC)


 * As long as you add at least 1 secondary/tertiary source to every article you revert, I'll leave you alone. Mrmoustache14 (talk) 02:32, 24 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Fair enough! Rlendog (talk) 02:35, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

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Hi. I notice that you've undertaken the task of creating categories for various authors of insect names. My sole purpose here, other than welcoming your effort, is to offer a light-hearted note regarding what you're in for: there are over a million insect names, and some authors (e.g., Fabricius) can count in excess of 10,000 names to their credit. If you are determined to see this task through to its end, which would be admirable, I hope you plan to live to 500 or so. I might also note, by way of caution, that since I routinely edit authorships and synonymies on insect articles, I can tell you that there is a small but significant proportion where either the author or year are cited incorrectly, and using this information as the basis for categories runs the risk of compounding such errors. Forewarned is forearmed. Good luck! Dyanega (talk) 00:32, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * P.S. - also from Queens, 1961. Dyanega (talk) 00:36, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I actually had been working on the authors of taxa for other types of animals (mammals, fish) and jumped to insects for a bit.  I'll probably jump around some more.  I definitely don't have the patience to add the author for every insect taxon - I am sure that most insect taxa don't even have a Wikipedia article at this point.  I was originally going to stick to higher level taxa for insects - families, subfamilies, maybe genera - but I may have gotten a little carried away when I saw some genera with just one or two species having an article, so I just said "why not" and added the author to those. Rlendog (talk) 15:44, 15 July 2016 (UTC)