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Note on the Requested move at Hiroshi Miyamura
I am new to the Requested Move (RM) process. I volunteer mostly on Commons.

Why was I was not notified, nor pinged about the new RM by the original proposer? Apparently, neither was Myasuda. Also, my discussion located immediately above this RM was not linked into this requested move, nor my point of view even mentioned.

I was notified and invited to comment by the proposer for the earlier discussion on my talk page, here: Talk:Hiroshi H. Miyamura, but not for the subsequent WP:RM discussion here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hiroshi_Miyamura&action=edit&section=3

The outcome may not have changed, however, since I had participated in Good Faith in the previous discussion by bringing research facts forward as requested by the OP. Myasuda and I should have been extended the courtesy as well as due process to have been invited to participate in the Requested Move discussion. Thank you, --Ooligan (talk) 01:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ooligan: it is unfortunate that you feel this way. This is a question that should be directed to the original proposer, if you wish to hear their motivation or lack of. There're no bots or scripts that I am aware of that (semi-)automated the issuing of notifications to individual editors. While on my end, as notifications to individual editors is not required by the WP:RM process, I would notify WikiProjects for further inputs if necessary to achieve a clearer consensus. If it is of any consolation, when I do my closings, I typically scroll up on my browser to check on the earlier discussions as it is not uncommon that a new RM discussion is a result of a prior discussion. Myasuda's and your inputs in the previous discussion were considered as well. – robertsky (talk) 03:07, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

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Draft:A scroll of poems about spring in the capital
Are you still reviewing it? It has been almost 24 hours since you marked it under review and you have edited elsewhere since then. Lightoil (talk) 02:34, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Lightoil, yes. Primarily because I am working offwiki on improving the translation. Other than that I would think that the draft is good to go. – robertsky (talk) 03:07, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

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Question from MooreBabo (10:09, 15 November 2023)
How do I edit articles and after edit what is my gain? --MooreBabo (talk) 10:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @MooreBabo: Go to any of the articles, there should be a blue 'Edit' button which will bring you to the editing interface. You can make your changes and then you can click on the 'Save' button to publish the changes. What you gain from this is intrinsic and varies from person to person. Here are 10 simple rules for editing Wikipedia. – robertsky (talk) 19:03, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Kapembwa william (18:25, 15 November 2023)
How can I write update someone’s biography on Wikipedia? --Kapembwa william (talk) 18:25, 15 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Kapembwa william: For existing biographies, you can simply editing the content itself. For new biographies, it is best that you start creating it in either your own sandbox or in the draft space. There are guidelines to follow: Make sure that subject you are writing a new article for is notable according to Wikipedia's notability guidelines (more often than not, the guidelines here are not what a fresh editor thinks they would be), and any potentially contentious information should be referenced with reliable and independent sources. – robertsky (talk) 19:09, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Orah71 (20:29, 18 November 2023)
Hello

How do you make a book or article --Orah71 (talk) 20:29, 18 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Orah71, there's no direct way to create a book on Wikipedia since 2001. See Books. As for writing an article, see WP:Your First Article. – robertsky (talk) 21:47, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Orah71 Apologies about the books. You can create books using the book creation tool, see Help:Books. – robertsky (talk) 03:48, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

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archiving
Some of the discussions you archived were not finished yet. Can they be continued or restarted on the talk page? Vacosea (talk) 16:57, 22 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Vacosea you can shift the threads out back to the talk page if you wish. – robertsky (talk) 18:33, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Boulevard de Strasbourg
Hi,

I'm not very experienced in these matters, but wouldn't it make more sense to leave "Boulevard de Strasbourg, Paris" at "Boulevard de Strasbourg" as the primary topic, and have the disambiguation page at "Boulevard de Strasbourg (disambiguation)"? Compare "Place de la République", for example.

Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 10:22, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Jean-de-Nivelle Bonjour! It was a technical request requested by an IP editor, of which can be challenged, and reverted. I am of no opinion as to which subject goes to which title in this case. Let me know if you consider this as a challenge to the technical request, and I will do the necessary reversion. – robertsky (talk) 10:29, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Yes, I would like to challenge the move per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 10:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Jean-de-Nivelle ✅. Also if possible, do help to find sources for the Paris street. Thanks! – robertsky (talk) 11:30, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Will do! Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 11:42, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Article for Creation
I'm here for Thanksgiving to you For accepting my article Hadsa. I request you to take a look in Draft:Khaqan Shahnawaz and Draft:Fairy Tale 2 (Pakistani TV series). I hope you will accept it. Thanks 223.123.15.215 (talk) 11:32, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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Question on how i can upload free image for living person
Hi, Robert, I hope you are doing well... i need your guidance with regards to uploading a free image that I would like to use in the main article at Wikipedia. so, i do know how to upload images under fair use under Wikipedia wizard. and free images under Wikipedia commons, but i am little confused because some of my images for living person articles are getting deleted. What is the proper systematic way of uploading free images files for living person and from where can i get it approved from the VRT team? can you please give me a link and i would be glad if you can explain me step by step on how i can upload free images for living person. Syed Sadique Hussain (talk) 12:28, 20 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Syed Sadique Hussain: Before uploading to Commons, make sure you have obtain consent from the copyright owner of the photograph. Do note that the copyright owner may differ according to local laws, and may not be the subject themselves, but the photographer. You will have to consult the relevant laws by yourself on this. After uploading to Commons, add to under the License section and immediately email to VRT with evidence that you have obtained consent from the copyright holders to release the images under a free license. A VRT volunteer will take it from there. See c:Commons:Volunteer Response Team which explains clearly what to do. – robertsky (talk) 19:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Robertsky thanks for the explaining me the process. I will follow this from now on! Syed Sadique Hussain (talk) 16:04, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Kinda g0z (12:51, 3 December 2023)
hello! I've been trying to make a page and it's not letting me --Kinda g0z (talk) 12:51, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Kinda g0z: For new editors, you are encouraged to use the draft space or sandbox for article development. See WP:Your First Article. – robertsky (talk) 12:53, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Felix Hair Color
Hi, I saw your comment on the draft page I created, Felix (Korean Musician) regarding Felix's hair color. I thoroughly looked through pictures from concerts and music videos to see his hair color. However, to make it more simple I only cited the music video in which his hair color was the color stated. If you think I should cite even more or have any suggestions, please tell me. Thanks! Redstar0005 talk to me! — Preceding undated comment added 23:19, 2 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Redstar0005 I think it should be removed. Why is the hair colors important in one's life? – robertsky (talk) 03:31, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Robertsky I think it is very important because it is his thing. All of the members in his group change their hair frequently but him more than most. As a fan of his myself, I know how excited fans get when he has a new hair color (just search it and you will see) and I think fans will find it helpful. Redstar0005 talk to me! 14:13, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Redstar0005 non-primary sources required. MVs are not considered. Again, I urge you to read WP:FANPOV. – robertsky (talk) 17:34, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

November 2023 Backlog Drive
Hello. I am writing to you as the coordinator of the November 2023 Backlog Drive.

Several AfC reviewers and I participated in the project, but realized that we needed to be added to the page too late. I am talking about last three names here at the moment (after Nizil Shah) and I do not insist, but if we can be added to the Leaderboard stats, too, it would be great. Suitskvarts (talk) 19:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Enterprisey can you assist on this query? @Suitskvarts did do some reviews in November. – robertsky (talk) 20:22, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Ranjeet & Ranjeeta
Hello Robert, can you please explain why Ranjeeta and Ranjeet were not moved? Thanks! --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:14, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Jax 0677, I don't see a consensus to move the articles. That's all. – robertsky (talk) 23:41, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 *  Reply - Why does Varsha lead to a disambiguation page instead of Varsha (Telugu actress)? --Jax 0677 (talk) 23:48, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Jax 0677 each article are evaluated on its own merits. I have no comments or opinions on Varsha at the moment. If you are attempting at consistency for BLPs, I suggest that you don't do so as each person/subject has their own unique information and considerations. – robertsky (talk) 02:22, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

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Geographic and city names
Firstly, thank you for moving Jackfish Lake, Saskatchewan. You had said, "I concur with Amakuru. Maybe the disambiguation practice of such Canadian articles should be looked into. At the first glance, both title variations are not distinguishable of each other." To help out, here's a link to the Canadian MoS: WP:CANPLACE. But, I think you'll find Canada isn't the only place that uses the Anytown, Region format—it's wikipedia-wide. As for lake and river naming conventions, Anylake (Region) is a wiki-wide naming format. WikiProject Lakes, WikiProject Rivers, WikiProject Mountains. Masterhatch (talk) 16:09, 5 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Masterhatch, not a big issue about making the move as it is a current practice. I have gone through the links you have given here (thanks for the links, they are informative). What I am seeing here is consistencies within the individual topics, which is good, but when it comes to pairing of geographical feature and place, there is a lack of clarity when comes to disambiguation between. I come from a place too small for such disambiguation to occur commonly. The closest I can think of is Bukit Timah vs. Bukit Timah Hill and the rest listed at Bukit Timah (disambiguation). So looking at Jackfish Lake, Saskatchewan and Jackfish Lake (Saskatchewan) without any context invoked an astonished reaction within me.
 * I will probably take this up onto an appropriate discussion venue, i.e. WP:VPR or a mass move discussion after doing further research. It will not be so soon. I would like to check if this was raised before, and how widespread is this. Who knows, maybe it is just a handful of articles affected (relatively comparing with the total number of places and geographical articles we have on here). – robertsky (talk) 17:48, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Chris France Musuc (14:52, 7 December 2023)
Hello, I want to create a page about my career. How do I go about that? --Chris France Musuc (talk) 14:52, 7 December 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Chris France Musuc, writing about yourself or your career is generally not advisable on Wikipedia. If your career has some coverage in news or other reliable secondary sources, someone who knows your work may come along and write about you.
 * However if you are not dissuaded yet, I strongly suggest that you peruse WP:Your First Article and start off from there. Do construct the article in the draft space first, and also declare your conflict of interest as well. Lastly, if you are block due to suspicions of impersonating... yourself, follow the directions laid out at WP:REALNAME to have yourself verified by a group of volunteer editors. – robertsky (talk) 15:19, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Battle/Siege of Gaza City
Hi, First of all, I did previously mention that the Siege of Gaza City article should be moved to be called a battle on its talk page. Secondly, is it not self-evident that the page should be titled "battle", rather than a siege, as there is significant and widespread fighting within the city? As I mentioned previously in the talk page, I don't think it makes sense to list the battle as a "siege" when the fighting is so extremely widespread within the city, and Israeli forces have already captured a large amount of the city. President Loki (talk) 06:16, 10 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @President Loki, @WeatherWriter was the one who contested the move, therefore it has been moved back. What you have presented here is your views and I don't see a consensus for a move to be made. Please open a requested move discussion on the talk page to seek a consensus among the community. – robertsky (talk) 06:56, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * –, as I am the one who requested the rename be done, I can answer your questions here. First of all, since the article is a contentious topics, you need to gather a consensus to rename the article. While you did bring it up on the talk page, no one agreed or in fact disagreed. You didn't gain any consensus. Also, a small piece of advice, you might want to read-over WP:CTOP, since you gained access to even begin to edit/move that page just a few minutes before you actually moved the page. Hope that helps! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 07:00, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @WeatherWriter Hi,
 * I once again brought up the topic on the talk page in an attempt to gain consensus. I would appreciate it if you can reply there and give your two cents. Thanks. President Loki (talk) 07:14, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @President Loki, I have gone through your contribution history and Your recent edit pattern (inserting wikilinks on common terms/words) is concerning and may be seen as WP:GAMING. Do familarise yourself further on WP:CONSENSUS. Notwithstanding, it seems that you have not participated in any move discussions. Do peruse WP:RM on this. I have formatted your move request accordingly to WP:RSPM so that interested editors and readers will be notified via requested move banner(s) and RM listing pages. – robertsky (talk) 07:24, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey, regarding your issue with potential gaming, I do not believe that to be the case. The edits that I have performed lately were to add links to a large amount of mammal genera. I noticed that many genera linked to genus at the beginning of the articles (mostly the larger, more commonly edited pages in the category), but many did not, so I went through numerous pages within the category and included links where they were absent (something I did not even fully complete due to the large amount of pages within the category). I don't believe that to be gaming, as my edits were in fact constructive, adding important links to the beginning of numerous articles within the category.
 * Regarding the article, I apologize for moving it without a consensus being reached beforehand, and I will strive to follow Wikipedia's guidelines on the matter and on all matters in the future. Thanks, President Loki (talk) 07:59, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Pesky Citizen on Jerry Dyer (06:17, 17 December 2023)
If I want to add a quote to a Politicians page... And I have the Name of the Newspaper. The Event, Location but didn't get the exact date of the publication in my screenshot just the 27th annual... Can I add it?

But this is unrelated & verifiable... and needs to be Public. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-03-16/fresno-swindled-out-of-600000-in-wire-fraud-case

This is a real bad guy. ChiefDyer.com Can I also tie John Lang to his page, he was Police Chief at the time. --Pesky Citizen (talk) 06:17, 17 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Pesky Citizen aside from the content that you wish to insert into the article, it is ideal that you have the date and headline of the article in addition publication name for others to verify the information. if the news article was published in the last five years and if you have the headlines, you can try searching online for the news. – robertsky (talk) 12:03, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Anthony Jennings (actor)


Hello, Robertsky. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Anthony Jennings".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 19:03, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

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Question from Badpete2050 (17:35, 18 December 2023)
I am trying to upload a picture to wikipedia and it tells me that it can't tell if I have the rights to it. It is a picture my Father took in 1965 of a whale processing plant on the coast of British Columbia Canada. I checked the box that said I have the rights. I do not see what else I can do. --Badpete2050 (talk) 17:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Badpete2050 you need to clock 10 edits and your account has to be 4 days old to upload on to English Wikipedia. You may want to consider uploading to Wikimedia Commons, our sister project that host copyright free media files for all Wikipedia projects if you are uploading the image under a Creative Commons license. – robertsky (talk) 04:28, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
 * thanks Badpete2050 (talk) 16:21, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

New pages patrol January 2024 Backlog drive
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:10, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks
Many thanks for returning those Years & Years articles whence they came - even if Isanari was to attempt to revert all those page moves, I would not think that would be possible as only a handful of users (including you) have the page mover rights applied to their accounts. I have not seen any contributions made by that user today. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 16:44, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Iggy the Swan no problem. I probably should have added one more edit to each redirect created to pseudo-lock the pages from being moved again without the help of pagemovers or admins. Let's see how the editor follows up on this given that Liz had left a message on their talk page as well on these page moves. – robertsky (talk) 02:39, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

AfC related to Scream (TV series)
Just a note that I've redirected the article you approved today: Scream: Resurrection.

Per MOS:TVSPLIT, this does not warrant its own article and there is no consensus to split... series was short and has concluded, so is handled sufficiently by List of Scream episodes and Scream (TV series). There's an overeager editor or two who seem to feel they can just keep resubmitting to AfC to skirt the need for consensus (see Draft:Scream (season 1) for an example). —Joeyconnick (talk) 02:30, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Joeyconnick I was following up on a technical RM request made by @BuySomeApples, Special:Permalink/1190811932, and ended up using the AfC script to complete required moves. Thanks for following up on this. Do you want to revert the page moves instead or just keep it as it is? – robertsky (talk) 02:36, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh I'm sorry... didn't realize it wasn't you doing the approval of the AfC. Uhm... maybe leave as is? I've never actually run into this situation, where someone is running to AfC multiple times after they've been informed they need to reconsider a split; there doesn't seem to any way to comment "hey maybe this article shouldn't be created" during the AfC process. —Joeyconnick (talk) 02:40, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Joeyconnick no worries. I think let's just keep it this way. The current edit history of the now redirect it more explicit on getting consensus on the primary talk page. – robertsky (talk) 03:12, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I guess we'll leave it like this. thanks for helping! BuySomeApples (talk) 05:18, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy holidays!
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November 2023 Backlog Drive
Hello Robert!

I tried to hop on the outgoing November 2023 Backlog Drive train, and Suitskvarts (talk) 14:13, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * the table]] I hit. But it seems that for some reason the stats didn't pull up for me (zero). Could you please help with that too?


 * @Suitskvarts I have done the manual counting and given you the barnstars. :) Do sign up earlier next time. Keep up the good work. – robertsky (talk) 02:12, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Good luck for your RFA!
You'll certainly make a good admin. NotAGenious (talk) 08:29, 27 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @NotAGenious thank you for the vote of confidence. – robertsky (talk) 13:07, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy holidays
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'' Hello Robertsky: Enjoy the  holiday season &#32;and  winter solstice  if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, -- Dustfreeworld (talk) 15:09, 25 December 2023 (UTC) ''


 * @Dustfreeworld the clouds sweat almost everyday at where I am. Nonetheless, happy holidays. – robertsky (talk) 13:08, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 23
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#606060; background-color:#f8f8f8; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:7px; border-radius:1em; box-shadow:0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);" class="plainlinks"> New year, new scripts. Welcome to the 23rd issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering around 39% of our favorite new and updated user scripts since. That’s right, we haven’t published in two years! Can you believe it? Did you miss us?

Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!

Cscr-featured.svg Featured script

 * RefRenamer by Nardog is this issue's featured script. For whatever reason, the foundation will only give us better reference names in VisualEditor if we wish for it in the next survey. Nardog to the rescue! This script has a ton of options to satisfy almost anyone who wishes to use better refnames than ":0" and ":418".

Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Updated scripts

 * Nardog: MoveHistory can now look up the move history of any page from anywhere on the site.
 * User:Enterprisey/diff-permalink now has a version that copies the Special:Diff link with square brackets.
 * User:GhostInTheMachine/WatchlistTidy now moves the Active Filters panel to the right so that the Show/Hide button doesn't constantly jump.
 * User:Alexander Davronov/HistoryHelper has now become stable with some bugfixes and features such as automatically highlighting potentially uncivil edit summaries and automatically pinging all the users selected.
 * AutoEd/unicodehex.js will no longer replace legacy MediaWiki dot-entities (dot followed by two uppercase alphanumeric characters) in article links, which caused several links to become broken.



Ambox important.svg Improve a script

 * Many of our favorite scripts such as User:Fred Gandt/userResourceManager, User:Guarapiranga/search-shortcuts and User:Bradv/Scripts/Superlinks haven't been updated for Vector 2022. You could be the one to change that!
 * User:Elominius/gadget/media timer works, but its UI looks alien. Someone could improve it...
 * To a lesser extent, the same goes for User:PrimeHunter/Search sort.js. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
 * We want...
 * ...a mark-as-read button for Watchlyst Greybar Unsin
 * ...a tool to automatically fix CAT:BROKENREFs, preferably a fork/addition to User:TheJJJunk/ARA
 * ...a fix/fork of User:DannyS712/SectionRemover.js to make it work

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 * A WP:3O requesting and responding tool, similar to Terasil's classic edit request tool
 * A "bytes removed"/"added" filter on the user contribs page
 * A review tool for WP:proposed deletions
 * Mass patrol new pages by a user for use in WP:RFP/A
 * ...and many more, all available at User scripts/Requests

Gnome-colors-list-add.svg New scripts

 * Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin is a rewrite of Ais's Watchlist Notifier with modern APIs and several new features such as not displaying watchlist items marked as seen (hence the name), not bolding diffs of unseen watchlist elements which doesn’t work properly anyways, displaying the rendered edit summary, proper display of log and creation actions and more links.
 * Alexis Jazz: Factotum is a spiritual successor to reply-link with a host of extra features like section adding, link rewriting, regular expressions and more.
 * User:Aveaoz/AutoMobileRedirect: This script will automatically redirect MobileFrontend (en.m.wikipedia) to normal Wikipedia. Unlike existing scripts, this one will actually check if your browser is mobile or not through its secret agent string, so you can stay logged in on mobile! Hooray screen estate!
 * Chlod:
 * Deputy is a first-of-its-kind copyright cleanup toolkit. It overrides the interface for Contributor copyright investigations for easy case processing. It also includes the functionality of the following (also new) scripts:
 * Attribution Notice Template Editor (ANTE) graphically modifies content attribution notices. It is the successor to User:Chlod/Scripts/CopiedTemplateEditor and supports more templates than copied ones.
 * Infringement Assistant allows a user to hide sections of a page for suspected copyright violations and report the page to the appropriate Copyright problems noticeboard.
 * User:Elominius/gadget/diff arrow keys allows navigation between diffs with the arrow keys. It also has a version that requires holding Ctrl with the arrow key.
 * Enterprisey
 * diff-permalink-2 allows quickly copying wikilinks to diff and permalink pages from those pages, a variation of existing script User:Enterprisey/diff-permalink
 * archiver is a fork of Σ's Archiver with several bugfixes.
 * /parent-cats highlights categories that are a subcategory of a category already included in a page's categories.
 * User:Guarapiranga/accessKeysCheatSheet adds an access key shortcut to display all shortcuts based on code provided by Nardog and NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh.
 * User:HungKhanh0106/ProperDisplay loads a bunch of fonts to add correct rendering supports for "esoteric" languages.
 * User:Jeeputer/highlightPiped will make piped links irresistible (or else).
 * User:Jerome Frank Disciple/curlyfixer.js adds an WP:AutoEd function that straightens curly quotes per MOS. That's right! Such a module was only made in the 14th year of AutoEd's existence! Configure away!
 * Frequently link to Wikipedia on your websites yet find generating CC-BY credits to be such a hassle? Say no more! User:Luke10.27/attribute will automatically do it for ya and copy the credit to yer clipboard.
 * User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft, a spiritual successor (i.e. fork) to Evad37's script, with a few bugs solved, and a host of extra features like check-boxes for choosing draftification reasons, multi-contributor notification, and appropriate warnings based on last edit time.
 * Nardog
 * /CopyCodeBlock: one of the most important operations for any scripter and script-user is to copy and paste. This script adds a copy button in the top right of every code block (not to be confused with option. This option is no longer needed and will be removed in the future.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Bot passwords and owner-only OAuth consumers can now be restricted to allow editing only specific pages.
 * You can now thank edits made by bots.
 * An update on the status of the Community Wishlist Survey for 2024 has been published. Please read and give your feedback.

Changes later this week
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 * Octicons-tools.svg The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> module was deprecated and replaced with the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> module last year. A script has now been run to replace any remaining uses, and this week the temporary alias will be removed.

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 * Wikimedia Deutschland is working to make reusing references easier. They are looking for people who are interested in participating in individual video calls for user research in January and February.

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Question from Karan29Singh (06:42, 18 January 2024)
How to change topic in sandbox --Karan29Singh (talk) 06:42, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from Karan29Singh (06:43, 18 January 2024)
how to change page topic in sandbox --Karan29Singh (talk) 06:43, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

RM closure for 3"-deamino-3"-oxonicotianamine reductase
You may have missed a remark in the RM you just closed at Talk:3"-deamino-3"-oxonicotianamine reductase. The remark was "There are two issues here. One is two singlecharacters (could just as well be straight apostrophe) vs a double-character (here a straight quote-mark). I support that." There was support for changing that aspect. Can you please take another look at that? —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 06:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I think I missed that. Will have a look again later in the day. – robertsky (talk) 07:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from Dedan256 (12:54, 19 January 2024)
Hello --Dedan256 (talk) 12:54, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

subpar on mobile
It certainly is. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:44, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Now having being an admin... there are a number of userscripts to be upgraded~ – robertsky (talk) 17:59, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

French election articles (again)
Hello - unfortunately there is continued disruption on the articles (see this set of edits, which is restoring unsourced (and in some cases nonsense) information to articles and blindly undoing other edits. I've asked the editor to stop, but no response. Not sure really what do about this anymore other than give up and leave the articles in a mess? Cheers, Number   5  7  19:35, 19 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Number 57, I was largely decompressing last night. It seems to be a cross between content dispute and personal references. I looked at some of your earlier edits, and it might not have help that you had made singular edits to remove uncited content and also stylistic changes, which unfortunately may have been seen as a wholesale negative change to the articles. I would have replied with "maybe WP:3O, WP:DRN, or WP:WikiProject France as the possible venues to centralise the discussion", or even WP:RFC (if well defined), but hey, you have taken it to ANI and let us just roll with that. – robertsky (talk) 07:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from SquashDope (15:57, 20 January 2024)
Hey, I just want to create an article about our national squash player --SquashDope (talk) 15:57, 20 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @SquashDope, for your first article, there is a guide for that Help:Your first article. Happy editing. – robertsky (talk) 16:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Hey, would you like to open a page for a Professional squash player with a world rank of 417? If you’re interested, I can give you some info SquashDope (talk) 16:25, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @SquashDope unfortunately, my plate is already full. Do consider requesting at Requested_articles/Sports. – robertsky (talk) 16:36, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Josh Cahill Edit
The link provided -> https://archive.is/WKioM states only Josh Cahill. Can you explain your edit? 2402:D000:8100:A97A:FD03:A31D:4128:1CC8 (talk) 03:37, 21 January 2024 (UTC)


 * https://web.archive.org/web/20110406115359/http://www.shanghaiwalk.com/profil/ this link is an error link too. 2402:D000:8100:A97A:FD03:A31D:4128:1CC8 (talk) 03:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, I was just replacing one archive link for another. As for the shanghaiwalk page, it isn't recoverable. Also even if the links are dead, it may be kept as per WP:KDL, especially when there are multiple editors attesting to or have verified the content at the article's Talk page. – robertsky (talk) 03:48, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * ooo. just recheck. wrong link. reverted. – robertsky (talk) 03:58, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Kerman move close
You stated at Talk:2024 Kerman bombings, The argument for over precision is also countered by the point on if the event's notoriety is sufficient enough for it to be recognisable to the readers who are not familiar with the subject area. But the recognizability policy at WP:CRITERIA, with emphasis added, is The title is a name or description of the subject that someone familiar with, although not necessarily an expert in, the subject area will recognize. You also cited WP:TOOSOON in your close, which is an essay on notability that does not discuss article titles. Can you please have another look? VQuakr (talk) 05:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @VQuakr haa... the crux of the closing is the applicability of WP:NOYEAR. While WP:TOOSOON is an essay for the article content, in my opinion the article title here can be applicable as well given that WP:NOYEAR has a temporal element to it: a historical perceptive. Circling back to WP:NOYEAR, from again, a historical perspective, will this bombing be an easily recognisable topic that can stand on its own without referencing to the year? This is one point which cannot be answered now. – robertsky (talk) 06:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:NOYEAR goes out of its way to note it is a judgement call to be determined by editors. It isn't a case where the majority should be overridden by the closer. That's not what the guideline calls for nor is it a conclusion in line with the article naming policy I quoted above and in the nomination. VQuakr (talk) 06:17, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * ... and WP:CONSENSUS applies still. Hence, I prefaced my close with WP:NOTVOTE to emphasize I was looking beyond the votes in the discussion. – robertsky (talk) 06:36, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * If consensus had been applied then the article would have been moved. The relevant policy favors the move as noted above and in the discussion, and the guideline you referenced notes it's a judgement call, which is a case where it IS a vote, a measure of opinions. Will you reconsider, or do I need to go to AN to get this overturned? VQuakr (talk) 06:40, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Again, consensus != votes. There is WP:MRV for reviewing of requested move discussions. – robertsky (talk) 06:44, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 * And again, yeah I know. There's both a clear consensus and a majority to move per policy. You're ignoring that and instead focusing on a guideline that specifically defers to editors' judgement (a rare case where it is a vote), which is a bizarre choice of things to do when you're ignoring the majority. Thanks for the reminder of MRV though. VQuakr (talk) 06:54, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

TPA
can you revoke TPA here?  Prodraxis  ( talk ) 15:14, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Prodraxis done. was cleaning up. – robertsky (talk) 15:28, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-04
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Problems
 * A bug in UploadWizard prevented linking to the userpage of the uploader when uploading. It has now been fixed.

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Question from V.furqansaad (19:00, 22 January 2024)
hy how i can edit any article dear? --V.furqansaad (talk) 19:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @V.furqansaad I have dropped a message on your Talk page (User talk:V.furqansaad) which contains a bunch of links to useful guides and tutorials to get you started. – robertsky (talk) 06:31, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

New message from VQuakr
VQuakr (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @VQuakr thanks for the notification. – robertsky (talk) 00:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It's of course mandatory, but sure thing. Regardless of the outcome, happy editing! VQuakr (talk) 00:06, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 60
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Question from Truth4Future (06:43, 26 January 2024)
Hi! My name is Thomas LeBlanc. I created an account today because I believe Wiki is soon to be the last vestige for truth in the new AI world. I have sent money a couple of times when asked. I love Wiki! My question relates to editing my Father's page (Leo LeBlanc) and adding his son's to have their own page. Can I? --Truth4Future (talk) 06:43, 26 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi @Truth4Future/Thomas, thank you for your generous support.
 * Your question although is on your father's page, it is about his son to have an article for himself. While a mention of his son's name is possible, as long as there is a source to support the insertion as a reference, his son having his own article is dependent on whether if his son meets the general notability guidelines on his own merit, as relationships do not confer notability (see also: WP:INVALIDBIO).
 * If you wish to create a separate article for his son, do read through Your First Article.
 * Happy editing! – robertsky (talk) 07:07, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Also to note, if this son is you... Do read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY on why you should not write about yourself on Wikipedia. – robertsky (talk) 07:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Kandukondain Kandukondain
I believe the film is the primary topic due to its longstanding cultural significance, and a dab page isn't needed per WP:TWODABS. You should've contested this like you did for Anbe Sivam and Endrendrum Punnagai. The TV series isn't particularly notable or well sourced. <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  07:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Kailash29792 Oh crap. Apologies for this. Thanks for the follow up. I somehow saw 2300 instead 23000 as the pageviews for the film when processing the queue. Will be reverting the move. :) – robertsky (talk) 07:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Kailash29792 and... ✅ – robertsky (talk) 07:17, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. What about Lakshmi Vandhachu, Oru Oorla Oru Rajakumari and Pudhu Pudhu Arthangal? I feel the same as KK, but it would've been better to open RM for them instead of moving them straight. <b style="color: black;">Kailash29792</b> (talk)  07:30, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Will take these as requests to revert undiscussed moves, and act on them later in the evening. – robertsky (talk) 08:26, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Kailash29792 ... and ✅ – robertsky (talk) 14:15, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of that
Just saw that you processed my request for reverts of those undiscussed moves which were contrary to WP:COMMONNAME. It is moments like these (when the system actually works) which restore my faith in Wikipedia. Thank you! Coolcaesar (talk) 06:52, 27 January 2024 (UTC)


 * @Coolcaesar, do expect a full discussion on which title version these subjects are to be placed at though. I notice these pages have been moved between two versions multiple times. The only reason why I processed them as reverting undiscussed moves was because most, if not all of them, were at the shorter names for long periods of time prior to @Cfls' moves (with exception of the Data Science school, but it was created only relatively recently at the shorter title). – robertsky (talk) 06:59, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Swiss expatriates in the Philippines


A tag has been placed on Category:Swiss expatriates in the Philippines indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 07:41, 27 January 2024 (UTC)