User talk:Rosiestep/Archive 33

DYK for Coffee production in Guadeloupe
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:50, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Fortifications on the Caribbean Side of Panama: Portobelo-San Lorenzo
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:36, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Bissau Cathedral, Port of Bissau
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Mining
Sorry, just noticed your little note/ It's the inconsistency in titles, the others are simply Mining in xxx ours are Mining industry in xxx.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:47, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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DYK nomination of Coffee production in Jamaica
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Shrine of St. Therese (Juneau)
I'm wondering what your thoughts are on the notability of this Juneau, Alaska religious and visitors institution, the Shrine of St. Therese. Here is a link to the source, and I'm sure Google can provide more. In addition to being an active Roman Catholic church, the site serves as a wedding chapel and rents cabins. I'm not asking you to start the article, or do any "heavy lifting" here. But I am an atheist and maybe my pov could sway my editing no matter how careful I am. I personally find the shrine notable, but I want an honest third-party opinion. Thanks!Juneau Mike (talk) 03:54, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

I think Shrine of St. Therese, Juneau is notable and I've given it a go. Thanks for mentioning it to me as I love to work on articles about buildings. And Happy 4th of July weekend! --Rosiestep (talk) 16:59, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! I've added a category, and created the Talk Page. I will be checking in to help out. I appreciate your efforts, as always! Juneau Mike (talk) 17:47, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

You're invited to the Ally Skills Workshop at Wikimania!
You were suggested as someone who might be interested in the Ally Skills Training Workshop at Wikimania! The workshop is designed to train Wikipedia admins to be more aware of sexism and is funded by an Inspire grant. The workshop will focus on teaching specific skills and techniques directly relevant to Wikipedia admins and editors, and in particular will teach people about the psychology of trolls. The workshop will be on Thursday July 16 from 2pm to 5pm in Don Diego 3.

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Valerietai (talk) 22:32, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Bissau Cathedral
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:21, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Port of Bissau
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:22, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Bartlett Regional Hospital
New article, just getting started. Less than 30 minutes old! Bartlett Regional Hospital I will come back to it tomorrow. Juneau Mike (talk) 07:09, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Cool! I'll be back to active editing after 20 July... I've got fam visiting right now, and I leave middle of next week for Wikimania (Victuallers and I are presenting a talk on content gender gap!). --Rosiestep (talk) 14:09, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Hane, Marquesas Islands
Gatoclass (talk) 13:06, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Hilda C. Heine
Gatoclass (talk) 10:33, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

What goes around ...
My friend Nat and I have been working since March on the whole Rosa Torre Gonzalez mystery. What happened to her after Felipe Carrillo Puerto's assassination. Last week we were at the UADY library and "think" we may have found a photo and a few scraps of information. BUT, I am working today on the Guatemalan writer Elisa Hall de Asturias. No where in her Spanish Wiki article does it say that she was a feminist, but as I look for sourcing, I find that she was a feminist and a suffragette and Unión Femenina Guatemalteca Pro-ciudadanía helped organize the first Congreso Interamericano de Mujeres held in Gutemala City in 1947 and one of the Mexican delegates was? Rosa Torre(s) G. Congreso Interamericano de Mujeres There's a ton of names in the articles that can be added to your redlinks list and when I finish this piece and that last Argentinian actress, I think I need to try to do a piece on this Congress. SusunW (talk) 21:49, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Glad you re-found Rosa! I really enjoyed working on Pan-American Conference of Women (1922) so I think Primer Congreso Interamericano de Mujeres (1947) would be another interesting article. I've added all the women from the linked blog/article to my gendergap redlist. Thanks for drawing my attention to them. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Rosie, I did it, because I was intrigued. For July, I'd like to do one of the interwikis on some of these women. Obviously the spellings of some of them in the piece by Hall's grandson were jumbled, but as he said, the handwriting was difficult to read. I have corrected some that I could find. I am sure there will be others. Now...how to get photos? The only photos of the conference I find are here PRIMER ENCUENTRO INTERAMERICANO DE MUJERES, GUATEMALA, 1947. Can I use them? I also love that strip you did on the side of the Pan-American Conference. I know I can use Argentina published 25 years ago as PD so this one María Teresa Ferrari is definitely usable. This was exciting, as it is even the same year for the Chilean delegate María Rivera Urquieta but can I use it? Same with this one, Matilde Elena López wrote the summary I used in the article. I can definitely use. I hate searching commons, I never can get any photos to come up there. If I Google it then I find images on commons. Why is that? I'd love to have a picture of Sue Bailey Thurman. Surely there is a PD image? Anyway, I'm tired. Off to bed, mayhaps you can help me with photos when you have nothing else to do. SusunW (talk) 07:40, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Me, too... very intrigued by the congress and the women who attended. As for image licensing, that's not my forte so I keep the this guideline bookmarked as an entry point into the licensing maze. can you help us sort out the licensing for these women's photos, or if you're busy with other things, suggest another Commons admin who might be able to? Thx, --Rosiestep (talk) 13:36, 21 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you! These are some amazing women. Surprised so few of them have articles. One was the very first Mexican movie star (Elena Sánchez Valenzuela). One was an MP in Canada (Beatrice Brigden), one was possibly the first activist for disabled person's education (Eloísa García Etchegorken) and another the first lawyer (not just first woman lawyer first lawyer) in Nicaragua (Olga Núñez Abaunza). So little time. So much we don't know ... SusunW (talk) 14:46, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
 * A bit late, but the admin I go to most for licensing questions is c:User:Jameslwoodward. There's always the Village Pump, where you'll usually get a pretty quick response from someone who's knowledgeable, especially with specific licenses, of which there's a plethora on Commons, many of them hazy even to me and other experienced Commons admins. INeverCry  20:56, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. No huge rush, the article isn't going anywhere, but it would be so much better if we could add the photos of some of its participants. Hopefully Jameslwoodward will be able to help and if not, I'll try the village pump.SusunW (talk) 21:54, 23 June 2015 (UTC)


 * thanks for getting back to us. Miss working with you. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:59, 24 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I didn't think I was going to find anything, every search came up blank until I put in the organizations that sent María Rivera Urquieta to the conference. She tied in nicely then to several of your sources. Now I really want that photo of her for 2 articles. Gonna have to ask the village pump. Since I don't know when she died, it's a question of Brazil's passport photo date, I'm thinking. SusunW (talk) 21:30, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's cool to see it getting tied together. Love the sea of redlinks in the article, BTW. I plan on returning to those biographies in July, but have to finish up the mining articles first. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:37, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It honestly made me tear up and gave me chills when I found that list of names read over the radio. Can you imagine what they must have felt? SusunW (talk) 21:40, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I hear you. Frankly, it inspires me to keep doing our work here on Wikipedia. --Rosiestep (talk)
 * Exactly. It's like a present when they fit in with work you have previously done. As humans, we like to fool ourselves that differences matter, but truly, we are all just puzzle pieces in the bigger scheme of life. Pretend that countries were isolated and communication and travel were more difficult in earlier epochs and then you find Rosa Torre, hanging out in Guatemala. The world has always been much smaller than we think. We are one humanity. It is inspirational indeed. SusunW (talk) 22:12, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Various things have happened in my life to get me to focus on what I do today so what was it for these women? I think the conferences they attended are pivotal -- what led them to attend the conferences, what did they take away from the conferences, what relationships did they foster as a consequence, how did the world change because of this? I can't "prove" that the conferences were "pivotal", but I think they were. That's why I think we need to have articles on the various conferences these women attended. For me, AdaCamp Portland was pivotal... so sad to see yesterday's announcement that AdaCamp has ended its work as it was an important experience for many other women, too. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Very sad to see that and yes, I agree. I think that it is a pivotal connection with someone who shares like ideas. Growing up in the 60s in a small southern town in the heart of the Bible belt (Okay I am truly an Okie from Muskogee if that helps with imagery), I had never met anyone who had even heard of the likes of Audre Lorde or Mary Daly. When I enrolled in a college class and actually spoke to other women who had read the women I read and shared their ideas, it was huge. I think we all have moments that change the course of our lives. I have had many. 2nd grade integration was a biggie for me, it was the first time I realized there was such a thing as race and I decided then and there it was something the school made up to collect money. My view has refined a bit over the years, but I still firmly believe that it is mostly a social construct designed to control people. My grandma would've called those pivot points "learning moments." I prefer to think every minute of our life has the potential to be a learning moment. SusunW (talk) 22:46, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Just a little update, photos are going no where. I posted queries at both the Media copyright questions and the Village pump but no one has even bothered to reply. Except after my sixth prompt at the copyright board on Wikipedia, I was referred to the Village pump on commons. So sad, that such a major group of women is unimportant for anyone to lend a hand with. I am not sure if it is the systemic boredom with women's topics or developing world topics, but since I work in both, I am totally frustrated by the first world bias towards marginalized groups that prevails here. Though I have written some amazing articles about women this week, it has been a most disappointing week mired in Wikipedia wastelands. SusunW (talk) 13:54, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, Susun, I'm so sorry for the frustration. And I totally get it. I can't help but wonder if you were asking about photos of vintage cars, or battle scenes, if the response would have been different. I think what's important to focus on is exactly the article you're working on. The thought that runs through my brain at times like this is, "If not me, then who?". Keep doing what you're doing as I love those articles and others (readers) must, too. I will focus on the women of Primer Congreso Interamericano de Mujeres as my next project, starting next week after my kids leave. BTW, I, too, grew up in the 60s, albeit in LA where the culture was more liberal and open-minded; we literally had flowers in our hair. When I got to college in the 70s, I was very keen on making a difference as a cultural anthropologist, but, alas, that was not to be, until 2007, when I discovered I could make a difference as a Wikipedia editor... now I get to be that cultural anthropologist. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:40, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I know you get it. It is still incredibly frustrating. (searches for that little emoticon that will make one's head bang on a wall) On top of this, I have my last, and yes, I have determined that it will be my last unless something significant changes, DYK nomination of Francisca Fernandez Hall stuck there. The reviewer (and I did look at what his contributions are to our knowledge of sports) will not move forward nor recuse himself. SusunW (talk) 15:05, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Rosie you're just soo grooovvy man!! Did you ever have a VW camper ;-)?♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:15, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I dunno about Rosie, but we did. My dad bought one in Germany and we drove all over Europe in it (including to East Germany behind the iron curtain, where we were ticketed for following a policeman, you know, because driving behind the car in front of you requires payment). I used to have a great picure of him with a bandana tied on his head and hair blowing driving that van. After our trip, we shipped the van home to the states and it became the coolest carpool vehicle ever.SusunW (talk) 16:25, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * No no no no no no no, say it isn't so (that FF Hall will be your last DYK unless things change)! There are reviewers and reviewers and reviewers at DYK... some are timely, some are reasonable, some are both, some are neither. I think of it like this: although the DYK article is meant to be a sprint rather than a marathon, the review can be a marathon, rather than a sprint. And once my level of patience is exhausted, I either cut the article down to 1501 char and come up with a boring alt, or I withdraw the nom, yawn, and move on. I figure I'm a volunteer and I don't deserve to get frustrated, so I control what I can control, and 1,200+ DYK articles later, I'm still plugging along. This doesn't work for everyone, just sharing what works for me, as I hope to entice you continue noming at DYK.  Nope. My first 3 cars, all used, were: (1) Buick Gran Sport (age 16 and I totalled it during my second car accident... honest, it wasn't my fault); (2) Ford Thunderbird (second generation) (the big fat kind and I hated it but my dad didn't want me to die so this was as close as he could get me to driving a tank); (3) California Special Mustang (high school graduation present and I drove it for over a decade). What about you, amigo? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:39, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm on my second Suzuki Jimny. Love them to bits, feel so cool to drive and give you that "high up" feeling yet relatively small and compact!♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:58, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Speaking of editathons...
Rosiestep, I'm also going to be involved in facilitating one, can you email me for further discussion of the details?? Montanabw (talk) 21:50, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

absolutely! Can it wait until after I get back from Wikimania (21 July)? --Rosiestep (talk) 04:57, 10 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, we are setting it for Aug 31. Montanabw (talk)  03:53, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

I created a sandbox page for editathons: User:Rosiestep/Editathons. This may not answer all your questions, so please ask if I didn't cover something or if more detail would be helpful. Best, --Rosiestep (talk) 01:41, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Coffee production in Panama
Gatoclass (talk) 22:48, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Puerto Baquerizo Moreno
Gatoclass (talk) 11:03, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Wikimania venue
Surprised to see nobody started Hilton Mexico City Reforma. Can you, Victuallers or expand?♦  Dr. Blofeld  15:14, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. For imgs, I'm on a Wed night red-eye, so should have pics as early as Thu morning, unless, of course, someone beats me to it, which undoubtedly will happen. If I have some alone time with Jimbo in an elevator, I'll be sure to suggest the article collaboration. lol P.S. I'm mentioning WP:WikiProject Intertranswiki in our talk as translation is one way to minimize the article gender gap. Hopefully, the mention will increase the number of editors participating on the project. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:04, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Excellent, and yes, translating articles from other wikis is one of the best ways to improve coverage of women around the world!♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:03, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Ghetto?
Hi Rosiestep--I just wrote up Namwali Serpell, after listening to "On Point" on that terrible leftist NPR station. But I forgot whether we still ghettoize women writers: there's a category "category:Zambian women writers", but for now I put her in "Zambian writers". Do you, or any of your collaborators, know what's up these days? I have very mixed feelings, still, about the whole thing. Drmies (talk) 16:55, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * And I just wrote up Julia Elliott, which also needs categories...all that stuff that takes me forever... I think Serpell is a great DYK candidate. (I'm enjoying her story "The Sack".) Drmies (talk) 17:16, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Hey there, that is just awesome that you started those articles. Truly. In my mind, it's only ghettoizing if the former (cat:Foo women writers) isn't non-diffusing. I am quite fond of non-diffusing women writer cats... I think they assist readers/scholars understand the info we have and the info we don't have. "Someday", we might not have a need for them, but in 2015, I think we do. Regarding your mixed feelings, if you wanna talk about it, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts. As for the terrible leftist NPR station, which wakes me up each weekday morning, glad to hear that the few dollars I've donated included a focus on a woman writer; I may have to up my next pledge. Are you going to nom Serpell? Nice article and seems to meet all the criteria, and mentioning "The Sack" in the hook would probably be cool. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:31, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, Serpell is up already. I went for the boring hook, about her sharing her prize. I'm not sure what non-diffusing means--does that mean we have a male one too? And I guess I can see that to some extent, but at the same time it enforces a gender binary that I'm not cool with. Ah well. Oh, I ran into some other articles/prizes, and did some work surrounding Caine Prize and Rona Jaffe Foundation Writers' Award--categorizing and some cleanup. Look at my recent contributions. It was boring and repetitive and in many cases I did a sloppy job, but I did write up a stub or two. Have a nice weekend, Drmies (talk) 17:00, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Francisca Fernández Hall
Hi Rosie. I wonder whether I could draw on your expertise to help approve the DYK nomination for this article. SusunW and I myself have spent considerable time and effort in researching additional sources, etc., to keep the reviewer happy and now it seems to be stuck again.--Ipigott (talk) 08:21, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Done! Nice article, btw. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:12, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you both. I have been holed up in bed with chills and fever for the past several days. I'm finally feeling human again. SusunW (talk) 14:36, 11 July 2015 (UTC)


 * glad you're feeling better. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:43, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! And thanks for moving Francisca Fernanadez. My husband was about to decide I had dengue, but the fever broke last night and I do feel much better today. Were it dengue, it would be months until I felt better so am celebrating that. SusunW (talk) 14:54, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * OMG, dengue would have been a horrible diagnosis! Be well. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:18, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * we consider ourselves lucky indeed. About 1/2 the folks we know have had it. There is a trial going on in the Caribbean [here] for the first vaccine. Supposedly it was found 99% effective. Our fingers are crossed that it becomes widely available. SusunW (talk) 17:50, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Did not know it was so prevalent in your area. #luckytonothavedenguefever --Rosiestep (talk) 18:03, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Coffee production in Jamaica
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:33, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

What we deal with
Mother of a president of Bolivia, first woman to represent Bolivia at the OAS's Inter-American Commission of Women (CIM), organizer of the Primer Congreso Interamericano de Mujeres on behalf of the Women's International League for Peace and Freedom. I have found about 3 sentences, based on that information I can document about her. Oh, and a one liner that she was her husband's wife when he was exiled to Massachusetts. Not even a birth date, death date, or mention *sigh* this might be something. Any chance you might have access to it? SusunW (talk) 23:23, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow! She is supposed to be somewhere in this document, but what is the document? It appears to be an attempt to put rights for women in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, you know, like 30+ years before it actually happened? Okay, well, she led me here, so I am fascinated as I read. SusunW (talk) 23:51, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, I am being really selfish, but I will be glad when you are back and not doing Wikimania. I have no idea what to do with ^^^that document, it is amazing, but I published the tragically sketchy bio on Carmen Sánchez de Bustamante Calvo and followed her next prod to the User:SusunW/Inter-American Commission of Women. I cannot believe there was no article. I need to get back to some interwiki articles, but am still not 100%, so am moving slowly. SusunW (talk) 17:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
 * you are a really good detective. I'm trying to download the pdf and it's taking awhile... there are so many interesting letters etc. in that document. Looking forward to reading through them all. Who is the mother of a president of Bolivia?? --Rosiestep (talk) 04:01, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The letters are fascinating. I haven't gotten through them all. Still only able to work about 4 hours and then must crash and after an hour I am up. Whatever tropical bug this is it is a weird one. Am working on your translation. Am working on a fascinating vedette, and still working on the Inter-American Commission of Women. Mother of Bolivian President is Carmen Sánchez de Bustamante Calvo. But really hard to search for her. Sometimes Sanchez de Bustamante, sometimes Sanchez Calvo, sometimes Bustamane de Lozada, sometimes Sanchez de Lozada, sometimes just de Lozada and in that Alexander Street link above that maybe you can access is "Lozada, Carmen B. de, fl. 1944-1952" SusunW (talk) 04:12, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wood carving in the Marquesas Islands
Gatoclass (talk) 00:42, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Wishing you a very happy and creditable presentation of your paper, and a pleasant time at the Wikimania Conference. -- Nvvchar . 22:48, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
 * thank you. Coming from you, that means a lot to me. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:12, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have completed the QPQ requirement for all Mining articles. Only some reviewer is required. By the bay can you pl give me the url of your final presentation to be made in the Wikimania conference? -- Nvvchar . 14:24, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
 * yes, definitely. I assume it'll be posted here, but when I find out, I will provide the URL. It might also get attached to the proposal. We're scheduled to speak at 11:00am on Sunday; I don't know if it'll be live broadcasted. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:50, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, best of luck for the presentation Rosie, you'll be terrific I'm sure!♦ Dr. Blofeld  09:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks that means a lot to me.  Wish you guys were here, too! I really do. Maybe next year we can present on A-Z DYK. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:31, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Coffee production in Peru
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of 1630 Crete earthquake
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DYK nomination of Kythira Strait
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DYK for Coffee production in Thailand
Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for 1630 Crete earthquake
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:16, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Darwin's Arch
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

New article
I just began 2015 Cajon Pass wildfire. Pretty scary! I used to live in Victorville before coming to Alaska. Article is in the early stages. I know you are out of town, but thought you may enjoy following this article.Juneau Mike (talk) 04:51, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi I know you are just "getting back in", and I hope you had a great time. We need you to "(keep) an eye on things around here"! Not looking for help, just a warm welcome back!Juneau Mike (talk) 20:20, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi Thanks!  Hey, have you read about the Tex Wash Bridge collapse? I've got my hands full with some other stuff at the new WP:WikiProject Women in Red, which we launched over the weekend at Wikimania. But I know you're good with news stories, and I thought I'd mention this one to you. No worries if you're busy with other things, and I'm not even sure if there's enough info for an actual article. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks like the partial collapse is already covered on the Interstate_10_in_California page, under History. And the bridge was only closed for a short time. Maybe the Tex Wash could use a page, though.Juneau Mike (talk) 19:40, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Kythira Strait
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:02, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Wikimania 2015
Hi Rosie, I am Jalu from Argentina.--Jalu (talk) 18:37, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi yes... WP:WikiProject XX has just been launched!--Rosiestep (talk) 18:46, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The page layout for WP:WikiProject XX was created by who has a grant for creating or improving project pages. He has a grant for that, and we are grateful for what he has done for us. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:50, 18 July 2015 (UTC)


 * ¿A qué llamamos brecha de género en Wikipedia?.--Jalu (talk) 18:55, 18 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi your article has been added to WP:WikiProject XX yay! --Rosiestep (talk) 19:08, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi so nice to meet you and I look forward to collaborating! --Rosiestep (talk) 19:08, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

I think it's too complicated the join process, awkward with the "card" pages. Just keep it a simple add name to main page members list. Made some project merge suggestions to task forces on talk page.♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:41, 18 July 2015 (UTC)


 * ... Adding with WikiProject X (designing the project page) and  to the conversation on the join process. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:05, 18 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Couldn't the list of missing articles in WikiProject XX be sorted in some way? Just a link to wikidata here isn't too helpful. There will soon be hundreds of red links. Don't like "systemic bias towards women’s biographies and their works". Shouldn't it be "bias against"?--Ipigott (talk) 17:53, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Adding to the redlinks convo. --Rosiestep (talk)
 * I tried to join but found it too difficult. Don't see why a picture is required. What's the correct name of the project?--Ipigott (talk) 18:02, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * (a) I'm sitting here with James, the project page designer, and I've let him know that you're the second person who's addressed difficulty with joining. (b) Yes, changing "toward" to "against". (c) The global community is renaming the project, and is discussing renaming reasons on the project talkpage. As usual, appreciate everyone's thoughts. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:13, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Just keep it simple, we don't want to put people off joining!♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:16, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

The form briefly broke when the project was renamed. It should be fixed now. A picture is not required. I think we settled on "Women in Red" for the name. As for the red link listing, it was very quickly thrown together (had to do it in time for Rosiestep's presentation), so when it comes time to make the bot that does this automatically, I'd be happy to hear what people want to see in the list. Better sorting would be ideal—"all the women" is indeed a broad Wikidata query. Harej (talk) 18:24, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Rosie, I joined but there wasn't enough room to put all my interests. LOL How do we get a bot to search red links and input them. I have TONS on just the Primer Congreso Interamericano de Mujeres and Inter-American Commission of Women. Is there a way to have a bot search all newly created articles for the project and add red links to the red links list? SusunW (talk) 18:55, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * yay... you joined! BTW, I met with Paulina and her team, and we are happy to start working together. She was very helpful with coordinating some aspects of the presentation today. Adding to the convo re redlinks. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:59, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yippee! As I said, there was no room to put on there that I work primarily in minorities, indigenous groups, Latina and Caribbean, as well as US. Glad it is going great. I am so appreciative of all that you and are doing and have done to make this a reality. SusunW (talk) 19:05, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * thank you; that really touches me. You might like to join the convo on the talkpage re: branding? --Rosiestep (talk) 19:08, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll try. Not really sure how to do that, but we shall see if I can do it. One more thought because one of the other members mentioned it too...images. How do we increase the images we have available. I still have had zero response about my image issue for Primer Congreso, but the number of images available in Commons for notable women is extremely sparse, except for celebrities. SusunW (talk) 19:11, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Like Susun, I would really like to thank you Rosie for all your efforts and for helping to get this new project off the ground. But there is a serious problem with membership. I received this confirmation but am still not on the list. The last two names are SusunW and Victuallers. Perhaps you can check the routines and see what's going wrong?--Ipigott (talk) 20:31, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Forget the above. I see I'm listed. Not used to automatic alphabetical reordering--Ipigott (talk) 20:40, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you, ; I appreciate your kind words. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:49, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

here is the presentation and it is uploaded to Commons (Category:Wikimania 2015 presentations). Also, I asked around for Tito Dutta and was told he was unable to attend. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:49, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

WikiWomen User Group
... In addition to launching WP:WikiProject XX at Wikimania, which was renamed almost immediately by the community as WP:WikiProject Women in Red (as in redlinks), a few of us created a new User Group -- WikiWomen User Group -- and AffComm approved it before and I spoke. Yay! Hope you consider signing up and sharing a link to do so with others! --Rosiestep (talk) 14:13, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I did that, but it shows me as red, which I guess means that I have no identity on Wikimedia? This technology is completely frustrating to me. Why are they not all interfaced? Why would I have to create an identity across platforms? It knows who I am as four tildes inputs my identity. *sigh* SusunW (talk) 14:19, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I heard from that if you create a userpage on Meta, you don't have to create a userpage anywhere else... it's automatically transcluded. That means you only have to update your page on Meta, and every other language Wiki sees a mirror version, unless you want it specialized for other languages. I haven't done that --  I have a page on Meta and on English -- but when I have some spare time, I will make that change. In the meantime, you might consider doing something like this. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:29, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'll try it. By transcluded I assume you mean that it will cross-input my identity, but does it also mean that messages are directed to one location or do I have to check every platform, because that is never going to happen. If technology becomes burdensome, I won't use it. SusunW (talk) 14:34, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * good question, but I don't know the answer so let's wait for (or a knowledgeable pagestalker) to respond. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:40, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK today

 * As we are bringing it to life ..... today, then look at the front page and see the lead DYK article ..... (although every other one is about blokes). We will succeed! Victuallers (talk) 09:25, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * bravo!! --Rosiestep (talk) 15:24, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


 * We could do a series on Gibraltarian women, kill two birds with one stone! ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:18, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool. Let's come up with a redlist for them at Intertranswiki... which, BTW, I plugged during the presentation! --Rosiestep (talk) 18:43, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm sure I'm not meant to smile at evil geniuses - I'm worried that it might encourage them. I did have a go at finding notable women in Gibraltar but I only wrote about a few. Thanks for cheering me up! Victuallers (talk) 19:42, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Canvassing
I wonder if you would care to comment at Articles for deletion/Susan Pangelinan. This is just a routine article but I am concerned about the treatment of a new editor, good at research and writing, who has followed all the rules and got slapped down anyway. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 14:09, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

DYKs
These need your attention pl in Template:Did you know nominations/Coffee production in Sri Lanka and naming the article issue needs resolution here Template:Did you know nominations/Île Frégate.-- Nvvchar . 17:16, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

I worked on Coffee production in Sri Lanka but I'm unclear if I addressed everything that needed to be addressed. There were a lot of hands working on that article after me. If there are still issues, I hope I get pinged. Regarding the reserve natural, I did the renaming. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:00, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yes, there were lots of users who have added\deleted and edited the text. It is very confusing. Lead itself has been changed many times. Let us see the comments to your reply.-- Nvvchar . 14:06, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Anoplius viaticus
Rosiestep, now that you're back, I was wondering if you wanted to return to this review. If not, I do have a call out for a new reviewer from when you had that notice on your talk page. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:17, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Thelmadatter (talk) 20:44, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

List of Chola temples in Bangalore
Hi, hope you're fine. One of my unfulfilled dreams is to take this list to FLC. Do you think it has a potential to become one? &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 08:19, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

probably; but it would take a lot of work. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:01, 23 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Since you've written many articles of this sort, do you have any book sources on this? &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 15:25, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Peanut production in China
Materialscientist (talk) 01:51, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Coffee production in Democratic Republic of the Congo
Materialscientist (talk) 13:36, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Gap list
So when I was working on Margarita López Portillo today, I checked to make sure she wasn't an orphan and saw this: User:Gobonobo/Gender Gap red list/By nationality. Don't want to take anything away from this amazing work. But it would be a huge add to the project if Gobonobo wanted to join SusunW (talk) 00:18, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * yes Gobonobo has a great list and writes lots of women's bios, etc. a friendly FYI that we've started up a new WikiProject, WP:WikiProject Women in Red, which might interest you; hope you have a chance to check it out! --Rosiestep (talk) 00:40, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you Rosiestep and SusunW. That project is right up my alley. gobonobo  + c 17:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yay Glad to see you there. I had no idea you had such a list. Great resource. Wouldn't it be lovely if all your red links turned blue. SusunW (talk) 23:03, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes it would. As the blue links are continually removed, I'm often in search of new red links. I like to work on resource-based lists like User:Gobonobo/Gender Gap red list/Women in World History and using them to update the lists sorted by nationality or profession. It would be nice to figure out an easy way to sync these up with the lists maintained by the various WikiProjects. gobonobo + c 23:21, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Merging the lists is a great idea....WikiProject Women Scientists has a big one and I maintain a huge one for my workshops that could use both some work and a merge. How shall we go about this? Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 23:30, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I know diddly squat about the technical part of Wikipedia. I write, the technology parts frustrate me beyond measure. Rosie has a gap list, Gobonobo has a gap list, the artists gap list I pulled those women from for the stub project could be pruned for women. There are many, many lists. I usually write an article, like I did for feminism in Mexico and then work through it until all the links are blue. Then I wrote Primer Congrjio0-j0j0j0jjeso Interamericano de Mujeres and am working my way through all the red links in it. My concern is if we just make one big list, will it be overwhelming. People look at it and are daunted by the task. That's why I like the 10 stub list Rosie is doing. You can see immediate progress. Anyone can feed a group of 10, so we end up with lots of different topics covered. SusunW (talk) 00:07, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

... Idea! What do you think about fleshing out WikiProject women as a "mega" project: --Rosiestep (talk) 02:24, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * redlink lists
 * those we've been maintaining in our sandboxes
 * crowd-sourced redlists, by occupation, and/or geography
 * Wikidata redlink lists


 * articles created lists
 * bot-generated new article search results, i.e. WikiProject Women writers
 * crowd-sourced lists of newly created articles
 * transclude editathon-generated Outcomes lists
 * transclude WikiWomen's History Month outcomes lists


 * stub lists to work on
 * parent for all the "women wikiprojects", by occupation (i.e. scientists, writers) and by topic (i.e. women's health)
 * support for the wikiprojects in WikiProject Women's see also section, i.e. dealing with editor gender gap, etc.
 * centralized liaise with WikiWomen's User Group
 * BRAIN BLAST! I think that's a great idea...then maybe like SusunW said we could get User:Harej or someone to pull mini-lists from the mega-list and SuggestBot them to people! (Also, Rosie, you have mail :D) Keilana&#124;Parlez ici 02:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * My thoughts as one who is NOT technologically savvy on Wikipedia (and I should say that I had my first personal computer in 1978, so it is not that I am technically unaware, but wiki technology seems to assume that every person is a programmer or wants to be -- NOT) that would be great if it is implemented well. I'd like to see a small group that actively works, unlike the other projects I am part of where no one even responds. I'd like to see lists that are small enough to be worked on and indicate progress, but not so large as to be daunting. I don't care if we have a giant list behind the scenes, but the current visual needs to be on progress. I'd like to see an assembly line where documents go from creation to review to DYK or GA. I'd adore it if someone would come along and add photos, so I didn't spend hours finding them and then trying to figure out if I can use them. If suggest bots go out is there a way that the system can alert you that someone is working on a subject already? (Not that this is a huge problem since articles on women are just not really getting done). I'd love to see bots automatically add new articles created by members of the group (I actually went to two members pages and asked them if they had "forgotten" to add their articles.) There is a lot that can be done if we utilize the technology and can find someone who can make it work for us. I guess for me the mosr important thing is that I don't want to feel like I am working alone. I am very self-directed, but when I need help, or want help, I want to know that I have back up. I don't see a lot of that going on on Wikipedia. SusunW (talk) 02:54, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Seems like this might work! Let's see if anyone else comments. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:12, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * And Rosie did I tell you that I am not getting Women in Red on my Watchlist feed? Even though I marked the page and pressed that link to notify me the only way I can find it is to go back to "my contributions". What's up with that? Not complaining, just want you to be aware it's an issue. SusunW (talk) 03:23, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I really like the idea of transcludable lists and having some sort of central 'dashboard' for the women's projects. I think some edit-a-thons would benefit from having a list of red links that are regionally, thematically or professionally relevant. It can be tremendously encouraging for a new user if their article gets featured as a DYK, so I'm in favor of assembly-line workflows that acknowledge that. On a related note, I'd love a more formalized way of onboarding new volunteers. I frequently come across new editors when combing through AFC submissions or the WikiProject new article feeds. I'll !thank the editor and drop a welcome note on their userpage, but usually that will be it. I know we have a lot of active editors working on this already, so pinging  — What do you think?  gobonobo  + c 04:33, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, definitely the way to go long term and attract the most interest. There should be a centralized main project on women, it's the best thing that we can do. I think this should be moved to Wp:Women asap and the missing articles set up at WikiProject Women/Missing articles. Please let's stop this automation and technical designing though. Articles should be selected by us manually not some random process. A bot can be used to list new pages though. I'll create a taskbar.♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:29, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I am not in favor of technology creating the lists. I am in favor of technology combining the lists we have already made. Maybe I didn't make that clear. I am also in favor of it adding articles created by members of the group to the tallies so we don't have to post them manually in three or four different places and it sending a notice of the weekly or bi-weekly focus list of 10 articles. And yes yes yes to everything you said. SusunW (talk) 14:39, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

(outdent)I think that having a central Women's project on Wikipedia English is a good idea. An umbrella project for all the specialty areas. I would like to keep the WikiProject Women in Red as either a separate project or as a task force for the main project. I think that red linking the names of women who are notable without an article on list, and in articles is a power statement that there is plenty of work to do. So, I really like the name that emphasizes the red link. Plus it makes it easier to find new articles to create about women. The decision to keep it as a separate WikiProject or merge into a task force of a larger project should consider whether those involved have the time and interest in keeping WikiProject Women in Red up to date with announcements and other maintenance. Either way, collecting the metrics from this project will be a powerful way to show the impact of a special project dedicated to creating articles about notable women. Sydney Poore/FloNight&#9829;&#9829;&#9829;&#9829; 16:33, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
 * --Rosiestep (talk) 04:14, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Expansion, and notability
Hi Rosie! I've expanded 2015 Cajon Pass wildfire, and emphasized its notable impact on legislation to the limit operation of unmanned aerial vehicles. I know you are busy, but I hope you will let me know your thoughts. Any feedback is always welcome. Thanks!Juneau Mike (talk) 06:10, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Getting caught up on my reading.... I think it's a really good article! Have you nominated it at DYK? --Rosiestep (talk) 17:25, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Jason Rothenberg (television producer)
I removed this article from the list of newly created articles of women writers. I presume it was added by mistake, but please let me know if the mistake is actually mine. Pburka (talk) 14:08, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for the ping. The first sentence of JR's article reads: "Jason Rothenberg - is an American television producer and writer, known for her work on the CW television series Body Politic and The 100." But apparently that's wrong as, after googling JR, it appears this is a man. I'll go ahead and change the lede sentence to avoid further confusion. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:16, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I read the article twice to be sure before removing it, and missed the incorrect pronoun both times. Thanks! Pburka (talk) 14:20, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Greetings
Hi User:Rosiestep. It's been great to meet you in Wikimania 2015. I am working in a Wikipedia Education Project that involves narrowing the gender gap. I'd like to join a user group with you. Best regards, --Roxyuru (talk) 21:59, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yay! Page stalker says welcome Feel free to go here WikiProject Women in Red join the project and contribute. We have a few categories posted for articles if you are interested in getting started with any of those just join in. If want to nominate any of the ones that have already been written for DYK, you can do that too. Any help at all will be greatly appreciated. SusunW (talk) 22:18, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I found some interesting articles on women which are in the redlist to write about. Best regards, --Roxyuru (talk) 22:22, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations on your project! I love it and we need it! --Roxyuru (talk) 22:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Yay! I write a lot about Latin American women (I live in Mérida). You will see lots of red links in both the Primer Congreso Interamericano de Mujeres which I have been working on all month. There are also a bunch on the Inter-American Commission of Women. On the talk page, you will see a section where Rosie and I were talking about conferences. Almost all of them have red links in them. SusunW (talk) 22:52, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi so glad to hear from you again!!! I like the article you created, Generación del 45, and I like the redlinks for María Zulema Silva Vila, María Inés Silva Vila, Elda Lago, and María de Montserrat/María de Montserrat. Let's turn them to blue! I think I saw somewhere that there's an editathon (or editatona) this coming weekend. Do you know anything about it? It would be a great time to work on these articles! --Rosiestep (talk) 00:45, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Maputeoa
Materialscientist (talk) 00:51, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Rikitea
Materialscientist (talk) 00:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for St. Michael's Cathedral, Rikitea
Materialscientist (talk) 00:53, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

 * Thank you! --Rosiestep (talk) 00:51, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Naulakha Palace
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:17, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Île Frégate
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:42, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Nature Reserve of Saint Bartholomew
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:42, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Coffee production in Sri Lanka
Gatoclass (talk) 17:37, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Esperanza Brito de Martí
On the Red links list of "to do"s was Esperanza Brito de Martí which I did today. When I was writing the lede at the end, I found the link for Fem (magazine) but noticed that it had an already blue link for Esperanza Brito de Marti. I don't know how to merge them without creating an issue and with keeping the history intact. The original one needs to be a redirect as the correct spelling of her husband's name is Martí. But we also then need to add the Fem link to the Martí one or she is an orphan. How do we fix this? SusunW (talk) 01:02, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi. The instructions are here: WP:FMERGE. Done. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 02:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You rock! Thank you :) SusunW (talk) 03:52, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Mining articles
There is a comment for splitting the DYK into separate nominations for each country. Do you have any views on this.-- Nvvchar . 04:05, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


 * My initial view is: it seems like a lot of work when it would be easy enough to approve the hook as is, and be done with it. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:24, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Agree completely. Tell the reviewer to take a hike.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:04, 5 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Looks like Doug is working on the review. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Margaret J. Anderson
Gatoclass (talk) 16:22, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Women in leadership
Hi Rosie. As you suggested, I have drawn up a short preliminary list of missing articles on Women in leadership. I suggest it should be moved to WP:Women/Missing artles on leadership (or similar) as it is not really suitable for WP:Women in Red (with its focus on identifying missing articles based on those in other languages). Until now, although the leadership list is based on two highly authoritative listings, only one of the 57 names is covered by an article in another language! If we go ahead with your virtual edit-a-thon in September, I think we should aim for a preliminary list of around 500 names. I'll try to continue adding names on the basis of international listings from business magazines, etc., but we could then perhaps concentrate on four or five countries with the help of additional volunteers. I would be interested to hear how you think we should go forward on this.--Ipigott (talk) 08:31, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi I think it's a wonderful list. Thank you for taking the time to compile it. I think it is the start of something very useful. I suggest we move it to WP:WikiProject Women in Red as it's focus is on redlinks (translation being just a part of that). I'd be quite excited to see 500 entries on this list. Do you think it's possible? As for moving the list, my first thought would be to move it here, WikiProject Women in Red/Women in leadership or here, WikiProject Women in Red/Women leaders. But perhaps in the next week or so, another arrangement might seem more suitable. Would you prefer to move it soon, or are you comfortable leaving it where it is for a bit till other things sort out at Women and WiR? --Rosiestep (talk) 03:44, 13 August 2015 (UTC)


 * OK, so let's put it on Women in Red. I prefer Women in leadership as I think leadership has a wider connotation than leaders. But Women leaders (similar to Women writers, Women artists) would also be fine if you prefer. By all means leave it on my user area for a while but in the meantime, perhaps we could promote wider participation in additions by drawing attention to it on the talk pages of both Women and Women in red. I certainly think we should be able to make 500 by the end of the month. I've only looked at two or three countries up to now, although I have not yet investigated coverage in the other major European languages (French, German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian) on Wikipedia. I'll continue to add to the list as time permits.--Ipigott (talk) 08:21, 13 August 2015 (UTC)


 * do you think it might be appropriate to add the women from Inter-American Commission of Women? If not, I fully understand, but being as they are diplomats representing their countries, seemed somewhat appropriate. SusunW (talk) 05:32, 13 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, that looks like a good historical source and falls in line with your own interests. Up to now, I've been concentrating mainly on current listings but we certainly do need to include historical figures too. If you can provide a URL to basic information on each person, I think it would encourage work when we get to the edit-a-thons.--Ipigott (talk) 08:26, 13 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I agree; include them. Also, I'll link the Women in leadership sandbox page to WiR when I get home tonight. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:45, 13 August 2015 (UTC)


 * May take me several days, for the historical ones seems slow going. Am hoping when I get the the current delegates on the list will be much easier o.O SusunW (talk) 16:33, 13 August 2015 (UTC)


 * By all means focus on the current delegates. I see they are nearly all red-linked. I just thought you might be personally interested in the historical figures, but please don't feel under any obligation.--Ipigott (talk) 18:27, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
 * you know me well, Ian. I am interested in the historical ones. And found a great site with photos at Harvard! I'm guessing since CIM is a quasi government agency, the pictures all fall under PD and we can use them. :) Each photo gives a brief bio, and so far have found most of them. SusunW (talk) 18:35, 13 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all your interesting additions. Great work!--Ipigott (talk) 18:43, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

For now, I've added a link to the list here: WikiProject Women in Red/Tasks. And yes, Susun, thanks for the interesting additions. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:48, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Lady Baltimore (bald eagle)
Getting started on a new article, thought you might be interested. It is related to an article I was involved with previously. Just getting started, I still have much work to do! I thought the topic may interest you. Lady Baltimore (bald eagle) Juneau Mike (talk) 02:50, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

I love it. Thank you for making me smile. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:26, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Any suggestions
Articles for creation/expansion/improvement on Montana women? Post ideas at GLAM/Montana History. Montanabw (talk) 04:49, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Is the editathon open to remote participants or only to Montana Historical Society staff and invited staff of the Montana State Law Library? If it's a closed event, I won't add it to the events sections at Women, WiR, or WWUG, but it you'd like others to participate, we can certainly promote it in various ways. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:36, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


 * It's closed, but I'm one of the leaders and am needing more experienced eyes who might be able to find articles on Montana women that we can bring up for improvement or some of the "women in red" who might have a Montana connection...I'm not having the time I thought I'd have... but any gnomes who want to post at the talk page with welcoming ideas are encouraged...! Montanabw (talk)  07:50, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Only one I know is Judith Blegen, raised in Montana, making an international career. Don't know if "she" could be improved much. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:10, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

To what extent
To what extent can men participate in Women in Red or WikiConference 2015 sessions about Women on Wikipedia and articles on women on Wikipedia?--DThomsen8 (talk) 18:43, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello. Editors can participate in these areas without regard to their gender, and no one is required to disclose gender in order to participate in these areas. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:06, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

October 2015: Women in Architecture editathons with Guggenheim globally and redlinks
Please see discussion on WikiProject Women in Red!--Pharos (talk) 19:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for George Livesey
Gatoclass (talk) 08:51, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Madagascar
Thanks for helping Victuallers (talk 23:05, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

You've got mail!
Keilana (talk) 09:13, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Mali
Gatoclass (talk) 11:20, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of South Sudan
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:34, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Moorish Baths, Gibraltar
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:50, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Charline Arthur
I found clippings and a lot of Billboard articles, but I don't do edit wars or reverting without conversation. Maybe Drmies only wanted your help. Didn't reply to me, but reverted my edit in the middle of me typing. SusunW (talk) 07:00, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * performing with Elvis 1955
 * appearing with Slim Whitman 1955
 * performing with Porter Wagoner 1956
 * featured with Roy Orbison, 1956
 * featured with new star Johnny Cash 1956
 * Eldorado Records recordings 1956 and contract
 * New Group Country Raiders 1972
 * Reunion with Johnny Cash 1973
 * Record contract 1975
 * Nashville reunion 1977
 * Texas History Online: Inducted into the Hall of Fame, buried in Texas
 * Big D Jamboree CD release 2000

Wow! That's fabulous research; thank you for doing that! We should definitely work some/all of that into the article. Personally, I have found to be collegial and smart as a whip, but it's best if she chimes in here herself vs. me trying to sort out the edit reverting. --Rosiestep (talk) 12:54, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Having just come off a 4 day break because of all the aggression and lack of respect on here, it was just a reinforcement of the status quo. I added 3 sentences based on a source I could open. The source was reverted with the comment that the source was already given in another article. (Mine was from a book, what was cited in the article was from a journal). In the middle of my edit, it was reverted and edited. I explained I couldn't open the source. No comment, no reply. No one would have died, or bled and the world would certainly not have come to an end to talk to first or even wait until I was finished. Even if my source stayed on the article a week, exactly what would the harm have been? This culture of reverting, not talking to other editors and behaving aggressively is beyond my understanding. If Drmies is a woman, that's even somehow sadder in my opinion. SusunW (talk) 13:19, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't do essentialism: my gender shouldn't be an issue here. You left me a note and I just responded. Five minutes after I made that edit I went to sleep. Then I woke up and made breakfast and took the kids to school. Now I'm at work. I wasn't aware that I did anything in an aggressive manner. As I explained on my talk page and in the edit summary, what you cited was the same thing that was already listed: the Neely article was republished in an edited collection, A Boy Named Sue: Gender and Country Music. And now I'm going to teach a class. Drmies (talk) 14:21, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I haven't the remotest idea what you mean by essentialism. I attributed no gender based characteristics to you. You asked a project which is trying to create and retain quality articles about women to help with documenting an article. Help came, you aggressively in my book, pushed it away, undermining the very purpose of our project. That isn't a gender thing, it seems to me to be an ego thing. "My source is better than your source" only works if everyone can access the source to peruse it. Changing what someone is writing while they are writing, does not seem like collaboration to me. If I read you wrong, I apologize. Feel free to use the information I found or not. There are so many articles that need to be worked on, it is ridiculous to squabble over one IMO. No harm no foul, I've moved on to other things. SusunW (talk) 15:18, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Except that you falsely accused me of acting aggressively. My source isn't better than your source: it's the same source (linked not once but twice--once to MUSE and once to Google Books) and should not be cited twice, differently. You said "if Drmies is a woman, that's even sadder"--which is essentialist because it judges my behavior based on my supposed gender. Essentialism is related to Identity politics, though the essentialism article could do with a section on feminism--particularly French feminism and third-wave feminism. Drmies (talk) 16:14, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * We will not be able to agree on this topic. I would never revert something that was not blatant vandalism without trying to talk to the person first. Doing so to me, is aggressive and does not respect the other party's input. It, IMO, is ego-driven and aggressive. Nothing on Wikipedia that I have ever seen warrants an emergency situation or crisis. You do not see it that way, your opinion. Opinions do not necessarily rate right and wrong, they just are. I repeat, I walk away from conflict. It serves very little purpose. I have apologized for what is apparently a difference of opinion. I have given a bunch of resources that can improve the article if the goal is to improve the article. I could care less if my contributions are noted or not. The only important thing to me is that we have added one more biography to tip the balance to a more representative picture of history. Is there something else that can be done? SusunW (talk) 16:35, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mining industry of Morocco
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DYK nomination of Mining industry of Libya
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DYK for Mining industry of Liberia
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:47, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Lesotho
Gatoclass (talk) 08:41, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * It has been pulled out due to reasons mentioned in template. Can you pl look into this. I have addressed most other review comments in other articles. -- Nvvchar . 03:20, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * , sorry, but what has been pulled out? Link please. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:25, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Please see here Template:Did you know nominations/Mining industry of Lesotho.-- Nvvchar . 23:16, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Mariska Hulscher
Hi Rosiestep, found mention of this on WikiProject Women/Women in Red/Tasks. Very dry translation, with nothing added that wasn't there. Drmies (talk) 02:59, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * We're in gossip territory here. Most of the sources are about a. her expensive villa in Baarn (I lived there for a while! well, not in the villa), b. she kept her chickens during a bird flu epidemic, and b. her two-month marriage. Why do you make me do this? Drmies (talk) 03:02, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hmm... (a) because; (b) if not you, then who, if not now, then when (yes, I think I lifted that from some song); and (c) well, because. Now let's see if I can find anything more on Mariska while you kick back with all that beer. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:35, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Everything about her is in Dutch! --Rosiestep (talk) 03:49, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, you'll just have to learn some Dutch then, Rosiestep... Also, there's Cristina Pumplun--and you didn't even know we didn't have her! A formerly unknown unknown. Drmies (talk) 16:49, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You got me there, she most certainly is a formerly unknown unknown. I'm going to have to find one just for you (buries head in the world wide web in search of an unknown unknown on par with the likes of CP...). As for learning Dutch, maybe in my spare time between RL, Wikipedia, and breathing? --Rosiestep (talk) 03:30, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Breathing is overrated, my dear Rosiestep, and I wish every breath I take could be laced with delicious nicotine. Alas. But by all means drop me a line if there's something I can do. Drmies (talk) 12:56, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Roberta Linn
Don't know if you or Susun can find anything more. Some more notable female singer red links too!♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:58, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Varanasi
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 22:27, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Tanzania
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:17, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Swaziland
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

President Obama to make 4-day visit to Alaska
I'm not proposing an article about the trip, but I thought it might interest you that President Obama will travel to Alaska tomorrow (August 31) and will remain in the state for four days. He will give the keynote address at a climate change conference in Anchorage, and will also visit the towns of Dillingham, Kotzebue and Seward. No other president has spent so much time here at one time in US history. Details here I know Alaskan issues interest you, so I wanted you to know about this. I hope you are well! Juneau Mike (talk) 13:15, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

this is epic! Are you going to be able to see him at any of his stops? --Rosiestep (talk) 13:52, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, no. He won't be coming anywhere near Juneau, and my work schedule won't let me travel. :( Juneau Mike (talk) 16:50, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * that's ok. It's a milestone for Alaska and his presidency, for sure. I wish I were there!! If you have a chance to keep track of where he stays or off-the-beaten-path places he visits, we could maybe create articles about those hotels, sites, etc. if they are notable and missing from Wikipedia. Just a thought. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:55, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I made a small addition this this article: List of presidential trips made by Barack Obama during 2015Juneau Mike (talk) 17:16, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * seems to me there are jillions of lakes and rivers on Baldwin Peninsula which don't have articles. Do they have names? Did anyone ever write about them in some obscure book? --Rosiestep (talk) 21:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Obama has spent his first day here, and had dinner with someone you and I collaborated on previously: Alice Rogoff. I mentioned that, and her friendship with the Obama's, on her page. You can see a short video of the presidential motorcade at her home here: Obama is spending the night at the Hotel Captain Cook in Anchorage, a really large hotel which might warrant a page. Also, perhaps the GLACIER conference he attended and spoke before might be notable enough, also. I'll keep you posted, as requested! :) Juneau Mike (talk) 06:20, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

President Obama's Alaska itinerary
Follow up: Enjoy! Juneau Mike (talk) 16:55, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Violeta Chamorro
First, thank you for the book tool. It definitely makes things easier. The only way I think I can do the snf thing is if it is in sections, as all the up, down, back and forth on Bence was truly a taxing ordeal, which was overly stressful and reduced me to tears multiple times. My husband insisted I walk away for the bulk of the day. But, that brings me to my next point, I think if I work it in small sections, I may be able to utilize it and already discovered that ' must be input with the toolbar character for it to point correctly according to the glaringly red error message, which I apparently also was able to install correctly.

On Chamorro, I think for me to format it, I must do small sections at a time in my Sandbox and then paste them into the article. I am not sure how that will work but will see how it goes. I put a notice on her talk page as well that it is a focus for nomination for September. SusunW (talk) 17:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * OMG, when Wikipedia reduces one to tears, don't walk away, RUN! Wikipedia will still be here when you are ready to return. One of the keys to being a long-term editor is embracing this concept. Be well. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:36, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Did I tell you that I love this book tool? Before only about 70% of the books I could find would prefill with ISBN number. I have yet to find any books that it doesn't work for. That is a huge time saver. I also noted that if you check the harv box, it even gives you the template, but you have to adjust it because it only pulls the 2nd name if there are more than one author, but still, big time saver. Thank you. SusunW (talk) 22:18, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * you're welcome. And, yes, while it's not a perfect tool, it's really helpful! Glad you like it. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:52, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Montana editathon!
Where would be a good place to post the news on the Montana editathon? We focused on women Montana history and produced the following:

Four new articles were created:
 * Dolly Akers
 * Helen P. Clarke
 * Rose Hum Lee
 * Beth Baker

Additional articles that were part of the editathon included:
 * Ella J. Knowles Haskell
 * Mary Fields

This was a small group (five new active editors, 3-4 more observers, two presenters) but I think we did a great job! Montanabw (talk) 04:11, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

So happy to hear about your successful event! I think WP:Women in Red would be the perfect place to post about it! Also, please add the new articles to WiR's metrics section. The first two are pretty close to being ready for nom now, but maybe we could get all 4 to be nomed at DYK? --Rosiestep (talk) 04:27, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Metrics section? Can you link to that for me??  Not sure if "my" newbies are quite up for the DYK gauntlet, but perhaps Akers or Clarke...  Montanabw (talk)  04:33, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Metrics section is here: WikiProject Women/Women in Red/Metrics. And thanks for your post on the WiR talkpage!! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:41, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mining industry of Togo
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DYK nomination of Mining industry of Sudan
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DYK nomination of Mining industry of Guinea
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DYK nomination of Mining industry of Tunisia
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DYK for Mining industry of Uganda
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Metrics for Women in Red
Hi Rosie. I'm sorry if I caused some confusion on the talk page of Women in Red with my comments on Metrics. Thanks for restating and clarifying your original objective. I am writing to you here because I really think it would be useful to refine AlexBot along the lines I suggested in order to remove the huge number of new articles on women in sports that are included every day so that we can concentrate more on biographies of women in other areas. The changes I suggested would be relatively easy to implement and we would have a day-to-day tally of new articles of relevance to main interests of the project. I think many of those involved in Women in Red and most of the other WikiProjects on women would agree that it is not really useful for us to review or upgrade articles on women in sports. In any case, it appears to be a sector which can take care of its own requirements. I very much hope Harej will be able to follow up on your own suggestion on metrics but if he experiences difficulty, then I think it would be useful to proceed with an alternative solution. You might be interested to know, btw, that I frequently look at the results of AlexBot for new articles on women writers and women artists. I also regularly use the AlexBot output on architecture for monitoring all the new articles created there. In many cases, I am able to edit in important improvements quite quickly and, in many cases, assign the articles to pertinent WikiProjects. I find the results extremely useful for enhancing articles sector by sector, even if about a third of them are not really relevant or worth expanding. On the other hand, I realize that it is often a tedious business to use the AlexBot output for adding to lists of new articles and agree it would be great if the operation could be partly or fully automated. But maybe we could improve both approaches at the same time. What do you think?--Ipigott (talk) 09:18, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * no worries! I think you and I are asking for two different things; both are important, but they aren't the same:
 * I am requesting that WikiProject X helps WiR with "Metrics": an automated, complete, and permanent record of WiR's work. Our records for July and August are permanent, but (a) they aren't automated, (b) they are probably grossly incomplete, and (c) there are duplicates.
 * I think what you're asking for are AlexNewBot lists, stovepiped by occupation, such as those at WikiProject women writers, WikiProject women artists, etc. I think this is a good idea. And I understand why this would be valuable. I think what you're asking for just requires putting in requests at AlexNewBot, and doesn't require WikiProject X's assistance. I believe that some WiR members have experience making such requests at AlexNewBot. Before putting in the request at AlexNewBot, we should probably identify the occupational lists we want to capture. We should determine if we want each list run on separate WiR subpages (I think that would be ideal). If we use as a guide, we're looking at a lot of different occupational categories so we'd be asking AlexNewBot for lots of lists. But as this is a bot, I don't think we need to be limiting in our request. After all, the work we're doing here is ground-breaking so designing these bot requests is part of that. I have a feeling there would be a lot of eyes on these lists once everything was up and running. As a next step, I would recommend starting a new section on the WiR talkpage regarding AlexNewBot and see where the conversation goes from there. --Rosiestep (talk) 12:06, 2 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Eeks, I'd strongly avoid having to draw up a list like that manually! Either get a bot to create all all started regularly or leave it. The time spent slogging away trying to find articles people have started could be going into content production instead. I'm starting to worry about this new project in all honesty, it's been a bit of a distraction in the last month or two. It should be there to encourage content production, not distract editors from producing content by engaging in heavy technical discussion and project technicalities! Hopefully we can all get back to content production for women in the coming editathons!♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:01, 2 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Maybe you're right but a great incentive to content production is for editors to see the results of the articles they have created. I think Rosie is right to be concerned with getting things right so that she (and the rest of us) don't have to spend too much time on creating lists. But as you say, it should indeed be easier to monitor the results of the editathons. I also intend to get back to creating new articles asap.--Ipigott (talk) 18:08, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, it's nice to see what has been created, but when it's as broad as "women" doing it manually is way too time consuming and a waste of effort I think. You two have always been superb content builders who focus 99% of their efforts on building content, I don't want the responsibilities with setting up a project and organizing it to change that in the long term!♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I think the time spent on project set up is unavoidable and actually essential for something this big and this important. But once we've ironed out a few more issues, I think the administrative/technical demands/time will be greatly reduced. As you know, my Wiki passion has always been writing articles, but if what we're doing with project setup helps others be more enthused and more prolific, then there's something gained there. As for continuing with the new article list via copy/paste, that has to end asap, which is why I'm hopeful can develop a tool to produce the list I requested. In the meantime, I'm looking forward to the WiR APA editathon this weekend, and the WiR leadership editathon which follows on its heels with the plan to create lots of new articles!! Last but not least... thank you for being you, and for being supportive of what I do around here. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:33, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ray Marcano
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Five minutes to help make WikiProjects better
Hello!

First, on behalf of WikiProject X, thank you for trying out the WikiProject X pilot projects. I would like to get some anonymous feedback from you on your experience using the new WikiProject layout and tools. This way, we will know what we did right, and if we did something horribly wrong, we can try to fix it. This feedback won't be associated with your username, so please be completely honest. We are determined to improve the experience of Wikipedians, and your feedback helps us with that. (You are also welcome to leave non-anonymous feedback at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject X.)

Please complete the survey here. The survey has two parts: the first part asks for your username, while the second part contains the survey questions. These two parts are stored separately, so your username will not be associated with your feedback. There are only nine questions and it should not take very long to complete. Once you complete the survey I will leave a handwritten note on your talk page as a token of my appreciation.

Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you, Harej (talk) 17:49, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Togo
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Tunisia
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Sudan
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Senegal
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Editathon
Started Lourdes Leon Guerrero, needs a bit more for DYK.♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:05, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I think this article has two bios going on, one about Lourdes Santiago Torres Leon Guerrero (teacher; died 2010) and another about Lourdes Aflague Leon Guerrero (nurse). Let me see if I can sort it out. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:27, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Odd, I saw Guam for both so presumed they were the same person and it was a slight name variation! ♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:35, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

I've done a handful of Virginians - feel free to use any you may wish for DYK. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 08:02, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Very cool. It'll probably be tonight. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:33, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for nomming, TNA is Joan Waugh :-) Already spent five minutes too long on here... just kidding ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld  12:12, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * TNA? --Rosiestep (talk) 13:33, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Today's New Article!♦ Dr. Blofeld  14:10, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think I've had enough coffee this morning... ;) --Rosiestep (talk) 14:20, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Amelia Bence
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Guinea
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Virginia Women in History
A link that might be of some interest to you: Virginia Women in History. I've already used it to help construct a couple of others, and there's fodder for quite a few more there. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:17, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * And another: Ella Graham Agnew. I'll refine it a bit later, but she's done for now. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:17, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This is a great list, ! --Rosiestep (talk) 01:21, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * It has its uses. To be honest I'm surprised at some of the omissions, though. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 05:36, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Shelby Gem Factory
Can you take a look at the conversation User:GrammarFascist has put there = not a Review, but an opinion. He is a newbie. He has written 2 articles and I can't determine how many contributions he has. Apparently he has an interest in gemstones, but not in Larry Paul Kelley. It's a 2-in-1 nomination. Can you give me guidance on this. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 10:59, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Irene Sandiford-Garner
You might find a bit more and nom.♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:27, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Morocco
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Malawi
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mining industry of Libya
Gatoclass (talk) 03:06, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * With this all mining articles DYK nominations are completed.-- Nvvchar . 06:15, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I feel very gratified they all made it to the mainpage as these articles are important. Cheers to the three of us -- you and and me -- for the collaborative effort.  --Rosiestep (talk) 14:01, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Sue Bailey Thurman
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:53, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

All-Woman Supreme Court
Figured this might be of interest - fascinating little bit of Texas history. :-) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:16, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mohamed Nagy Museum
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:21, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Yum, yum!
Thanks for the wiki-sandwich and beer. This RfA thing is kind of intense with all the questions. Kind of fun thinking them through, though. Thanks for popping by with refreshments! Montanabw (talk) 06:07, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

RFA fun? There's positive psychology for you!♦ Dr. Blofeld  06:36, 18 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Thinking about the answers to the good faith questions has been fun, and interesting.  Montanabw (talk)  07:38, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Konya Archaeological Museum
Gatoclass (talk) 12:52, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Carol H. Beck
Hello, Rosiestep. Do you have any objection to my spinning off the Beck Gold Medal into its own article? Here's what I did at Temple Gold Medal. Best, == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 14:02, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

great idea; go for it! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:29, 19 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Done: Beck Gold Medal == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:01, 19 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Glad you like it. If you hadn't created the article on Beck, I wouldn't have begun the table. == BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 23:14, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Pravina Mehta has been nominated for Did You Know
Used your hook suggestion and gave an alt. SusunW (talk) 16:03, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Women in Leadership editathon
Hi Rosie. What a fantastic idea it was to have a virtual two-week editathon on women in leadership. The results go far beyond my wildest expectations. With over 160 new articles, it must be one of the most successful Wikipedia editathons. I have been particularly impressed by the global coverage: at least half the articles seem to be about leaders outside the United States. We should try to repeat this kind of exercise for other areas where women's contributions deserve more attention. Well done!--Ipigott (talk) 19:47, 21 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I, too, am impressed with the level of participation, as I thought we'd have 25-50 articles; this certainly exceeded my expectations. Thank you for the idea and for all the back-end work you did on this; I really do appreciate all your efforts. The last step after an editathon, at least to my way of thinking, is to leave a thank you note on the participants' talkpages (as you've done here for me, thank you very much!). Do you feel comfortable doing something like that? I tend to use a template such as this example, Meetup/Women in Red/1/thankyou. Note, I don't mind doing this task if you'd prefer that I do the follow-up. Best, --Rosiestep (talk) 03:00, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Hear, hear! Page stalker totally agrees! What a wonderful, successful venture. Congrats . I was pondering this today and thought it seemed much more successful than our attempts at a stub drive. Do we try another category for October or stick with this one, which Megalibrarygirl has successfully continued to increase red links on? SusunW (talk) 03:17, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for participating


Thank you for your interest in Women in Red and for your participation in the virtual Women in Leadership Edit-a-thon, 7-20 September 2015. It was a resounding success with over 160 new articles. Your contributions are appreciated! We'll keep you posted on future events. --Ipigott (talk) 08:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * This seems to look OK so I'll continue sending it out, at least to the more enthusiastic contributors I can pick up from New Alex Bot. I don't think I'll have time to look at each of the 169 articles separately - but we'll see how it goes. I'll use the heading "Thank you for participating" in order to avoid confusion with earlier "Thank you" headings.--Ipigott (talk) 08:43, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I have sent the thank-you message to the 21 contributors at User:Ipigott/Leadership editathon participants. Please let me know if I have forgotten anyone (e.g. those who worked on upgrading). The list can be used for future invitations (although one or two may have contributed by accident).--Ipigott (talk) 10:46, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Nicely done, and thank you for closing the circle on this editathon. I saw 26 names on the event's participants list, so I assumed all 26 participated. But certainly editors can have good intentions to participate, and then just not be able to provide an article during the event. I was thinking about starting something like Meetup/Women in Red/Participants, and including the names of editors from the first two events. We could then use the list as a start point for future "meetup" invitations, in addition, of course, to WiR members, etc. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:44, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * a friendly FYI that this link in the thank you note, Women in Red, unfortunately links to Wikipedian in Residence, rather than Women in Red. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:51, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that, Rosie. This is the second time a widely distributed message has been less than satisfactory. When I sent out the invitation, I also made a major error by not including "|}" at the end of the message. I'll now change WP:WIR to WP:WPWIR, at least for those users who are not yet familiar with the project. Yes, I agree with you that it would be a good idea to have a list of participants. We could also include those who expressed interest but did not in fact participate. I can also check on the names of the others who said they would participate to see if perhaps they just worked on improving articles.--Ipigott (talk) 14:18, 22 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I've rectified the link to WiR where necessary. Re the list of participants, should I continue adding to my own list or would you like to set one up on WiR which would be more accessible for future additions?--Ipigott (talk) 16:15, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Architecture editathon

 * I have copied this to the talk page of WiR where we'll probably get more reactions -Ipigott (talk) 16:30, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

I have been looking at the announcement for the upcoming Editathon on Women in Architecture (15 to 25 October). I must say I find the list of red links (which was apparently added by ) pretty daunting. I have researched several of the names and encountered major problems with notability. I think our participation and that of new contributors would benefit from a more manageable list, say of up to 200 names, with basic details such as dates of birth and death, country of origin, degree of importance or notability. As the "physical" editathon is being held at locations in the United States, Canada, India, Germany, Finland, Britain, Serbia and Australia, would it not be possible to put together priority lists for each of these countries? Alternatively, perhaps a few of our own members could handle 20 or 30 names each and put together a priority list for our own participation? We could also draw on recent lists of women award winners and highly rated articles from the wikis in other languages. Both would help in establishing notability. In this connection, this List of architecture prizes and Category:Architecture awards with all the links to wikis in other languages might prove useful. --Ipigott (talk) 16:21, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

FYI
Leaving an early closing summary at the RfA. It is NOT a withdrawal, I'm just going to be real busy IRL tomorrow. Thanks again to all of you for your help! Montanabw (talk) 07:57, 23 September 2015 (UTC) I read your RfA closing statement, you are a class act and I am proud to call you my friend. If/when you decide to make a go for RfA2, and if you mention, "It's not my first rodeo", I'll be LMAO! --Rosiestep (talk) 14:02, 23 September 2015 (UTC)


 * When I start making rumbling noises about doing so, remind me of that! Delighted to see you note a Charlie Russell!  How very Montanan of you!  Might have to make you an honorary resident!  Montanabw (talk)  01:17, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Participants list
I have updated the Leadership participation list with the names of other editors who in several cases contributed before the official start date but after receiving the invitation message. The list could be used as a basis for invitations to the architecture editathon (15 to 25 October). For that event, I think we should also invite active participants from WP:Architecture, especially those who have recently written biographies of women architects (e.g. on the basis of additions to the List of women architects). It might also be useful to examine recent biographies from WP:Women artists as quite a few have been on architecture or design.

I can help out over the next few days in various ways but am not too sure what the priorities are. I think it would be useful to compile a List of women in leadership based on the recent editathon as well as on relevant categories. This would encourage continued participation {{as suggested by {{u|SusunW}}) and would also provide better focus on women leaders who are currently spread around a host of different Wikipedia categories. I could also start preparing an invitation to the architecture editathon (for your approval) and could put together a list of potential contributors to whom the invitation should be sent. I think perhaps we should alert the other women wikiprojects, WP:Architecture and WP:Intertranswiki fairly soon (i.e. sometime next week) but maybe we should leave distribution to individual editors until around 10 October - otherwise people are likely to forget about it. As I have already mentioned, I could also start preparing a shorter, more realistic list of notable red-linked women architects, something along the lines of Women in Leadership. What do you think?--Ipigott (talk) 10:09, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

I've now put together a draft invitation.--Ipigott (talk) 10:35, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Already?? Allow some time to breathe and recover! ♦ Dr. Blofeld  10:50, 23 September 2015 (UTC)


 * {{u|Dr. Blofeld}} I don't think the invitation should be sent out to individuals until a few days before the event - so you will have plenty of time to catch your breath.--Ipigott (talk) 15:47, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

The invitation did not take too long to do but I've also started a more descriptive list of red-linked women architects which I'll continue to develop. You might like to move it to Women in Red and/or provide a link from the editathon announcement. That might encourage additions from other contributors.--Ipigott (talk) 15:47, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

That's OK then, but it still seems that you're rushing into worrying about the next one. Can't you take a break from editathons from a week or something until Oct 1? The following to be started, they've been red links since like June! Rosie stalkers help is needed!

♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:27, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * 1) {{Interlanguage link multi|Nicolasa Pradera|es|3=Nicolasa Pradera}}
 * 2) {{Interlanguage link multi|Yolanda Alzola|es|3=Yolanda Alzola}}
 * 3) {{Interlanguage link multi|Mary Begoña|es|3=Mary Begoña}}
 * 4) {{Interlanguage link multi|Concha Catalá|es|3=Concha Catalá}}
 * 5) {{Interlanguage link multi|Carmen Larrabeiti|es|3=Carmen Larrabeiti}}
 * 6) {{Interlanguage link multi|Katy Gutiérrez Muñoz|es|3=Katy Gutiérrez Muñoz}}
 * 7) {{Interlanguage link multi|Begoña Errazti|es|3=Begoña Errazti}}
 * 8) {{Interlanguage link multi|Isabel Celaá|es|3=Isabel Celaá}}
 * 9) {{Interlanguage link multi|Idoia Mendia|es|3=Idoia Mendia}}
 * 10) {{Interlanguage link multi|Martina Ibaibarriaga|es|3=Martina Ibaibarriaga}}

{{rto|Dr. Blofeld|Ipigott}} Actually, the architects editathon will be a major event and I've been working on it a bit from the backend with Guggenheim folks. So not too early to start on it. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:55, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * {{rto|Rosiestep}} Just give me a prod when you think it's time to send out the invitation (if you think it's OK as it stands). Maybe we could send it to pertinent wikiprojects this weekend and to individuals next weekend. What do you think?--Ipigott (talk) 09:54, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * {{rto|Ipigott}} Thanks for creating it; I tweak it a bit. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:23, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * {{reply to|Ipigott}} I think that {{ping|Pharos|p=}} would be the best one to answer that question. My personal opinion would be "after October 1st" as this is still September and the event starts in mid-October. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:02, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

I think we should allow a minimum of two weeks after an editathon has finished to go advertising the next one. People need a breather.♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:11, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * {{ping|Rosiestep|Dr. Blofeld}} On the basis of Rosie's first reply, I today sent out invitations to other relevant WikiProjects (including architects, visual arts and design which have not been involved in our editathons until now). I thought it would be useful to let the projects know what's going on and encourage some of their members to join in. I'll wait until next weekend before sending out invitations to individuals although I have already alerted some of those who have been writing articles for Wikiproject Women Wikipedia Design as I believe they have a special interest in what we are planning. The two week delay suggested by Dr. Blofeld would bring us to next Sunday, 4 October. I assume it will be OK to send out individual invitations then. Maybe all the Guggenheim events and not just New York should also be listed under events on WP Women?--Ipigott (talk) 15:53, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

The problem I have is that effectively this is going to turn into thinking about editathons every day of each month. The two weeks for the editathons in contributing. Then as soon as they're over you're already discussing and planning the next one and sending out invitations. I don't know how Rosie feels but I think it's too much. We need a week or two to really not even discuss the next one and allow people to recover and do their own thing. Otherwise it becomes too much of a "job" contributing and discussing it when it's supposed to be fun and done in a relaxed way. I don't think we should have even considered the next one until October 1, a few days discussion and then send out invitations.♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:27, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * {{rto|Dr. Blofeld}} Now that we've completed 2 of them, I can see that WiR will be facilitating/hosting 2 different types of edit-a-thons: sponsored and unsponsored.  In the case of the Guggenheim/architects event, which is upcoming, the planning for it has been ongoing for over a month by the Guggenheim and WMNYC (as the Guggenheim is in NYC) folks. I don't think I mentioned it here, but I actually had a phone call with the Guggenheim 2-3 weeks ago, and they view our virtual edit-a-thon as a major event. {{ping|Pharos}}, the President of WMNYC, developed our edit-a-thon's meetup page, is one of our facilitator's on the WiR edit-a-thon, and is taking point in some of the decisions for this edit-a-thon. For full disclosure, I sent him the draft announcement for the gendergap-l list earlier today; I was tardy on that as the Guggenheim had requested it several days ago. While this WiR event is a big deal and there's a lot of work going on beforehand, and it's on the heels of our Women in Leadership edit-a-thon, our unsponsored edit-a-thons will offer breaks in WiR's calendar of events. Hope this explanation is helpful. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:42, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps then we should leave it longer in between for the online editathons then?♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:16, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * {{rto|Dr. Blofeld}} I guess that depends. Right now, we don't have anything going for November. But we've already started talking about a December event, Women of Religion. What I'm seeking is that some people really like working on WiR event planning, while others want breathers between WiR events. I'm also seeing a lot of conversations on different talkpages about the Guggenheim event, and I'm guessing you are, too. This is one of the reasons why I'd like to start a WiR Events page to corral the conversations about WiR edit-a-thon planning. (Me personally, I love collaborating with others in planning WiR events, i.e. it's more fun than just working quietly from my laptop on WiR-scope articles. But, of course, WiR is not my whole world... and you know I do other things on wiki.) --Rosiestep (talk) 17:37, 27 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I think we should be careful not to put all the editathons in the same box. Each has a very clear focus and while some of our contributors appear to take a general interest in women, others have a very definite focus. I therefore expect the Women in Architecture event will attract a new bunch of editors and will therefore increase the impact of our work. I agree with Rosie that if these events are to be successful, they need careful preparation and, like her, I believe the time we have been spending on preparatory work really pays off. As the first Guggenheim editathon is on 10 October in Berlin, I think it would be sensible to send out the personal invitations sooner rather than later. But I am also glad to see that November will be free of editathons, allowing us to catch up with other work.--Ipigott (talk) 09:25, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Mini Ada-Camp reunion at WikiCon?
Hi! I saw you on some submissions for WikiCon in a few weeks. We should catch up. I know one other Ada Camp alumni (not our session) will be there. Do you think we should post something to the mailing list and set up a dinner? --LibraryGurl (talk) 18:54, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

OMG, are attending WikiCon??? I can't wait to see you again, and yes, let's do a mini AdaCamp reunion. I think Frances from WMF will be attending; she's one of us from Portland. Not sure about the dinner situation at the moment but maybe breakfast or coffee or cocktails or whatever. Can we sort out when we get there? Do you feel like posting something to the mailing list? Thank you in advance if you do. --Rosiestep (talk) 01:52, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Inspiration. ;-))
Dear Rosie, I discovered your user page today and am leaving this message simply to say how much it inspired me! Like you, I am a long-time admirer of Isaac Asimov as a person and as a writer, and I share with you the sentiment of equating our encyclopedia with Hari Seldon's project. I also love the many ways in which we can show our sense of humour and convey our support of, and encouragement to, each other here at the wiki. I am in awe of what you do, both here and in your real life, and I wish you the very best of success in all your endeavours. Thank you, Rosie, for being such an inspiration to me and (I daresay) to many other editors. With kindest regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 09:19, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

thank you so much for your kind words. It's great to know that someone else get the Seldon reference; I think we're a small bunch. If you ever want to collaborate on some article, pop by and let me know, i.e. know of any women musicians, singers, entertainers who are notable but aren't covered yet on Wikipedia? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:31, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Dear Rosie,
 * Many thanks for your prompt and friendly reply. Maybe we should consider creating a fun "Wikisect" for our small bunch, as you called us? Perhaps identifying ourselves as "the Seldonites", and with a stylized Prime Radiant as our logo?
 * Seriously, though, I will bear your kind invitation in mind, perhaps for Zoë Conway or Marianne Green, although convincing a quorum of editors that Green is notable will most likely be a challenge. I should first be completing the few articles currently in draft form on my wikiplate, but I'll approach you again when I am ready to partner with one of your projects. It's a really nice idea and a good thing to do; so, thank you for your vote of confidence!
 * Until then, please keep well and thank you once again for all your great ideas and contributions to our encyclopedia.
 * With kindest regards;
 * Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 17:18, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Nathalie Cabrol
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Iqra Quraishi
Look what fell in my lap this morning. Your help is appreciated. This was created originally by. Drmies (talk) 17:34, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Lourdes Aflague Leon Guerrero
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Women in architecture
I suspected Wikiproject Women Wikipedia Design were involved given the venues in Australia and Berlin. I've been following their progress since their original proposal. We should try to encourage the new editors they bring in. Most of those from their earlier editathons never came back although I see one or two are returning to this round. Thanks for including the project in your expanded version of the invitation.--Ipigott (talk) 07:21, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, you are right, we should definitely encourage those editors. I think the women in design are a large, under-represented group, similar to women architects. I did a bit of work on women in design in March at an edit-a-thon and I'll probably focus on them for our upcoming event. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:55, 30 September 2015 (UTC)


 * I think they are in fact primarily interested in architecture. They just happened to call the project Women Wikipedia Design. The women running the project are associated with architecture too. See their original proposal here. Maybe we could specifically offer them some kind of mentoring help for follow-up after their editathon sessions? --Ipigott (talk) 15:37, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wings Place
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