User talk:Srich32977/Archive 23

Packers sweep Edit
Hi Srich32977, I reverted your edit at Packers sweep here. Note that I restored a few of your changes as uncontroversial here. Per MOS:REPEATLINK, Citations stand alone in their usage, so there is no problem with repeating the same link in many citations within an article. Note also that the example given after that sentence is a newspaper. MOS:OVERLINK tends to be more applicable to the actual article text, but even if you try to apply the first bullet (Everyday words understood by most readers in context.) to citations, it's a stretch to say that "everyday words" includes proper names of publishers. What may be an everyday publisher to me, may be completely unknown to someone from Australia (or some other English country). This also makes it easier for verification of the correct source or publisher, especially when working with older newspapers that have merged (i.e. the Milwaukee-Journal Sentinel) or uncommon publishing organizations (Green Bay Packers, Inc.). Everyday words, imho, include cat, dog, tree, etc that definitely don't require linking in most cases. Lastly, WP:SEAOFBLUE is not applicable, as this shortcut to MOS:LINK applies to confusing combinations of linking (i.e. linking Packers sweep instead of Packers sweep), not overlinking. Based on the fact this is a semi-automated edit, I would recommend not editing citations in this manner as the MOS does not support your position. It also has almost zero benefit for the reader, as linking in a citation does not impact the reader's ability to understand the article (the main purpose of avoiding overlinking). « Gonzo fan2007  (talk)  @ 23:21, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Green New Deal
Hello, why did you add an empty section, "Positions and principles," to this article? While it might be useful to have this information broken out, I'm not sure that an aspirational, but otherwise empty, caption accomplishes anything on its own. Regards, Lahaun (talk) 18:49, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd like to think that User:HouseOfChange was aspired by my edit. – S. Rich (talk) 17:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, although that is still a felony in Kansas. Lahaun (talk) 01:48, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Mont Perelin Society, Koch Brothers, Libertarianism
I am responding to your comments to me yesterday. Yes, MacLean made specific references to connections between the Mont Perelin Society (MPS) and Koch-funded institutes like the Buchanan Center and the Mercatus Center at George Mason University. I can cite those page numbers, if that would solve this problem. Second, MacLean's book exposing Koch Brothers' programs received criticism from people within the academic community who have received funding grants from the Koch Brothers. The Koch Brothers Network can generate academic criticism of anyone who publishes truths about their work they would rather not have exposed. If conflict-of-interest, sponsored criticism is enough to prevent publishing truths on Wikipedia, then how is Wikipedia a reliable organ for publishing truth? Third, reading the Wikipedia page on the Mont Perelin Society, it only includes high-sounding generalizations and platitudes. It actually serves as a propaganda brochure for the MPS. It is not adequate to explain to readers what the MPS actually stands for and the work that MPS members actually accomplish in the real world. If prominent officers of the MPS, such as past president James M. Buchanan, have published books articulating their beliefs and strategies, and a book like MacLean's documents specific examples of the implementation of those beliefs and strategies, why cannot those specific beliefs, strategies and implementations be published on Wikipedia, to allow readers to be educated on the actual, real-world, influence of the MPS? BAKeenan (talk) 18:45, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yes, page numbers will help. They enable readers to find the specific points in the reference. Because MacLean's book involves living people, Wikipedia's WP:BLP policy must be followed. (In turn, the WP:BURDEN is on the editor who wishes to include material – favorable or unfavorable – about living people.) MacLean's specific criticisms actually belong in the particular articles (such as James M. Buchanan). Also, I understand your concern about the "propaganda" aspect of the MPS article, but avoiding non-encyclopedic "counter-propaganda" is important too. Finally, most importantly, please enjoy your editing. – S. Rich (talk) 19:14, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

we thank you
Thank you for article improvements in February! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

... and in March! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

SPLC RFC
Hey Srich--were you planning on starting an RfC with regard to the SPLC's recent firings/harrassment controversy? I recall you mentioned it on the talk page. I continue to think it'd be a good idea. ModerateMikayla555 (talk) 13:24, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

My actual goal was to stem the rancor on the talk page. Given that the TP pissing contest is over, and that details on the shakeup are still emerging I don't think an RFC is needed at present. (BTW, thanks for your edits! It was interesting to see how much the endowment has grown.) – S. Rich (talk) 17:14, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I see your point. I'll re-kindle the discussion in a bit as there's been some new RS coverage of it all. And no problem! Yeah, 2017 was a great year for them financially (Trump bump, probably) and then 2018 was about equally strong. ModerateMikayla555 (talk) 17:28, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

March 2019
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make disruptive edits to Wikipedia contrary to the Manual of Style. You have been explicitly requested on multiple occasions not to remove spaces between initials or change the ISBN formatting on articles, yet you've just done the exact same thing again. DrKay (talk) 17:35, 25 March 2019 (UTC)


 * – your attention (and response) to this talk page comment will be appreciated. – S. Rich (talk) 04:55, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * You repeat your ill-founded accusation of WP:DISRUPTIVE editing based on changes to an article that involves ~50 distinct edits. The article has 20 ISBNs – one had spaces instead of hyphens. Rather than guessing as to whether the spaces correctly represented the missing hyphens, it was easier to simply remove the spaces so that the overall listing would be more coherent. (After all, the magic ISBN link works either way.) Next we see that one of the 7 author names (15%) had a mix of spaces and no-spaces in the initials. It was simpler/easier/more efficient to take out the spaces so that a consistent presentation is provided. My-my! Quite disruptive!! Especially when weighed against the other 43 edits. But there is a guideline that says spaced initials should be used WP citations. (Or at least this guideline has been quoted to me.) Per that "guideline" every article with unspaced initials in the citations should be revised. NO, that wouldn't work (too-too much). Perhaps we should have editors count-up the various differences in presentation to decide what the established style is. Whichever style is in the majority is ipso-facto the established style. Yes! That's the easiest way to do it! And when there is a 50-50 or 1/3-1/3/-1/3 split we should take the matter to the article talk page to get a consensus. No. Editor Celia Homeford had the very best solution. She avoided the roll-back button and made corrections to my genuine mistakes. And she provided sound rationales explaining the changes. (From which I learned a thing or two.)  – S. Rich (talk) 21:07, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Block
You have been blocked temporarily from editing for continuing to remove spaces from between initials today, yesterday, and the day before that despite being asked not to on multiple occasions and there being an open RfC on the topic. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. DrKay (talk) 16:10, 2 April 2019 (UTC)


 * I have no interest in any of these three articles. More than one person, both here and elsewhere, has raised or commented on this issue. The issue is CITEVAR not CITESTYLE, as again you have been told repeatedly. There's nothing wrong with the edit to Hegel's name. You removed spaces From I. M. Copi, D. E. Flage, J. H. Holland, K. J. Holyoak, R. E. Nisbett, and P. R. Thagard even though you've been asked repeatedly not to remove spaces and there is an active talk page discussion about it. The block is not about removing 3 spaces. It is about performing edits that you know are contested despite repeated warnings, requests to stop and an active talk page discussion. DrKay (talk) 19:54, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I am one of the people who has both objected to this editor's edits and thanked the editor when their edits were clearly constructive. I believe that a summary block prior to discussion at a forum populated by third parties was not warranted. I encourage to remove the block and follow the dispute resolution process. If that path is followed, I urge  to abstain from editing citations until that process is complete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:58, 2 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Bad block The edits can hardly be considered disruptive...occasionally removing a space between initials in citations where the style is already mixed while performing tons of other helpful gnomish formatting fixes isn't hurting anybody. Seriously. We're talking about spaces between initials inside citation templates. Blocks or sanctions need to be proportionate to the offense, and blocks are for protecting the encyclopedia, not for punishing users. ~Awilley (talk) 20:24, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * "We're talking about spaces between initials inside citation templates" Exactly; I'm wondering why we have editors editing disruptively to have it a particular way. I don't know which way is right. I only know it doesn't matter all that much. Any reasonable person would back off about it rather than persist. For that reason, the block needs to stay in place, beyond the fact that the unblock rationale is a non-starter. Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 20:39, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

1. You may have no/minimal interest in those 3 particular articles, but you did object to my edits on Edward VII in February in which you are the top editor. 2. You fail (or refuse) to acknowledge that 129,000+ of my live edits have been (more or less) helpful, and simply focus on a few ill-founded complaints from other editors who griped about the edits to pages on their watch-lists. 3. You could have avoided this whole situation by saying "Yes, Srich32977 is correct say that "INIT and INITIALS do not apply to article citations, only to article text" per the suggestions I posted. 4. Instead of addressing my comments you simply proclaimed that I was DISRUPTIVE. 5. You fail to acknowledge that WP:CITEVAR is a sub-section of WP:CITESTYLE and that "imposing one style on an article with inconsistent citation styles ...: [is] an improvement because it makes the citations easier to understand and edit;". DrK, please note that EACH of my edits has been done with this guideline in mind and, accordingly, withdraw your sanction. Thank you.  – S. Rich (talk) 04:37, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't edit Edward VII at all in February. The edit to which you refer is this one, which is an administrative action regarding disruptive editing.
 * CITEVAR says specifically not to change from one established style to another, which is what you're doing as I've already explained. DrKay (talk) 16:01, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Again you evade the point. Regarding my original point 1. I said you have an interest in Edward VII (as top editor) and you misused your admin status when posting a warning about my helpful edits. Re: point 2: you ignore the thanks I received and support a minority of editors who object. (Thereby supporting the minority in their efforts to disrupt normal, helpful article improvements.) Re: point 3, you ignore. Re: point 4: you concede that I was correct, but fail to make allowances for your error. Re: point 5: you concede there is no-RfC on the issue, but fail to concede that referring to "an RfC" was an exaggeration used to support your punishment. Re: points 6, 8, and 9: you fail to admit there is a mix of citation styles in the poorly written English Poor Laws, and that my changes improved the article. Re: point 10: You fail to acknowledge that you supported the objection of others about hyphens in ISBNs. Next, regarding my re-response, you again fail to address what a "consistent" or "established" CITESTYLE is. In the "RfC' you simply said DISRUPTIVE defines established/consistent and you fail to answer my discussion above. In fact your block is DISRUPTIVE – in the past 365 days I've made 11,760 edits, or 225 per week. You are now preventing me from making another 225 helpful edits this week. Moreover, I can't comment on the "RfC", which seeks to provide a well-defined clarification to WP:NCP. Still, I'll keep Jonesey's advice in mind – accordingly, it's past time to revert this clearly excessive block. – S. Rich (talk) 18:10, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I made no error in relation to point 4. There is no failure on my part on any other point, merely no comment. DrKay (talk) 18:56, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * I've unblocked per your assurance (email) that you'd stay away from editing initials in citations until some clarification or consensus is reached on the issue. ~Awilley (talk) 20:14, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Dates and capitalization edits
Your edit at Transphobia bunched numerous, small changes and was about 80 to 90% correct, but it included various changes that should not have been made, such as changing the capitalization of the m-w dictionary entries, and removing full dates in favor of year only in various places. Also, you don't have to remove unused citation params, and changing  to   is not an improvement.

What are we going to do about this? The mistakes are sprinkled all over in one big edit, so it's really tempting to just revert the edit, because the alternative is to go pick out the problems one by one and fix them, and frankly, I don't have the time. Can you please fix these problems, and also please set your bot or assisted editing tool to do these changes one by one, incrementally, instead various, unrelated changes in different sections of the article all at once? That way, if there is a problem, at least only the problematic edits can be reverted, and all the good stuff can be left alone. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 06:51, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

The "I don't have the time" comment is true for many WP editors, and that's why we have citation and auto-ed bots available to fix small problems. Otherwise a 5-10 minute assisted edit would become a tedious 30+ minute edit to cover each of the small ±50 changes one at a time. So when we have numerous small improvements (like changing hyphens to endashes, quotations for article "titles", and other fixes which strive for copy-editing consistency) we accept the edits. As for specifics, "m-w" was changed because it was redundant in the citation; "pages" was made "pp." because all of the other page ranges used "p."; dates of book publication were converted to years only for consistency; etc.. You and I, and U|Jonesey95 all contributed to this "start-class" article and helped moved it along to "C-class". Thank you for your helpful copy-edits. – S. Rich (talk) 18:37, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * OKay, those all sound like good reasons, as far as they go. I guess another thing is that I really do pay attention to edit summaires, and the edit summary field in a large, scattered edit like that isn't long enough to really say everything that was done, so you really have to look at the diff to see, which in a long edit takes a lot of time; a longer summary would be helpful, or maybe two runs (two tabs running at the same time?) so they could have double the summary space.
 * The main area I still have a quibble then, is the date changes: removing month and day from some citations where they are available for certain publications just to be consistent with other publications where only the year is avaiable seems like removing information for no good reason. I don't believe there is any policy or guideline suggesting that "consistency" in date detail level is a good thing. Or maybe I just missed it; could you link me to it if it exists, or consider rethinking the date adjustments going forward if it doesn't? Thanks for your response and your work, cheers, Mathglot (talk) 18:56, 6 April 2019 (UTC)


 * WP:CITESTYLE / WP:CITEVAR may be helpful. – S. Rich (talk) 19:03, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

Recent bizarreness here
Apologies, Srich, I didn't realise you were online while I was rolling that stuff back! —— SerialNumber  54129  19:29, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

NO apologies, only thanks! AHM is now blocked. – S. Rich (talk) 19:30, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Ha! The system works :)   ——  SerialNumber  54129  19:35, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

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Confusion about a reverted edit.
I took off the “birth name” section on SOPHIE’s wiki page, I’m wondering how exactly somebody’s birth name, which is not a legal name and has no use to Sophie or anyone else, can be noteworthy/helpful information? My birth age was 0 but I don’t think it would be useful to put that on a Wikipedia page about me because there’s nothing useful or interesting about that information. Rippenzack (talk) 16:28, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 * There's been much debate amongst Wikipedians over the years regarding these issues. In general we look at whether the info is WP:NOTEWORTHY and verified. An interesting essay (not policy) on the topic is at WP:ATADP, particularly the Personal Point of View section. In general I think the reader should get "the information" because it may be interesting, helpful, or useful – to other readers. When we see edit summaries that say "transphobic" or "deadname", it strongly indicates the editor is concerned about trans-sex issues from a personal viewpoint. Me? I'm tolerant about trans-sex and sexual preference issues. I put Sophie on my watchlist because one editor had made POV edits to Chelsea Manning where I'm the #2 contributor (after SlimVirgin). Chelsea's gender identity (and gender) have been hot WP topics over the years and I hope my contributions have maintained WP's neutrality. I'm trying to do the same for Sophie. – S. Rich (talk) 18:14, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLVI, April 2019
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Democratic Freedom Caucus (DFC)
Here are some References I found related to the Democratic Freedom Caucus (DFC): - (1) most recent article, February: https://medium.com/@phila_31297/meet-the-people-rescuing-american-politics-by-trying-to-capture-land-value-989f4d50b717 - (2) article last year: https://www.progress.org/articles/electing-geoist-candidates-in-the-united-states - (3) Daily Kos interview with a DFC member: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2005/9/23/151338/-? (4) Also, one of the other editors cited the Kos encyclopedia full entry about the DFC: http://www.dkosopedia.com/static/d/e/m/Democratic_Freedom_Caucus_f8c6.html - (5) article in Groundswell newsletter: http://commonground-usa.net/stoner-nadine_democratic-freedom-caucus-endorses-lvt-2009.htm - (6) critique of DFC by some libertarians: http://libertarianmajority.net/democratic-freedom-caucus-redacted-platform Mab135ac (talk) 16:34, 18 March 2019 (UTC)Mab135ac

Update: among the new References added since the discussion began about whether to keep or delete, one of the articles is a source documenting that a DFC state chair was elected to city council. One of the editors had thought there weren't any elected officials from the organization. Mab135ac (talk) 16:46, 20 March 2019 (UTC)Mab135ac
 * Comment. Hi and . I think that the article should stay and that it's notable. Time is running out and it may get deleted. That being the case, I wonder if it's time to post a note to closing admin requesting that the history be preserved and it be re-directed to another article? I know that may not be the result you two want. Personally I think it's a last resort. I may not be around in a day or two and will only be on the following day. So what do you think? Cheers Karl Twist (talk) 11:45, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * – the issue is now OBE. While voicing support for retention, I have no heartburn over the AFD – DFC is not a WP:N organization. Thanks for your efforts. – S. Rich (talk) 05:26, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Thatg's OK Srich32977. Still a shame it got deleted. At the very least it should have just been redirected. Take care. Karl Twist (talk) 06:42, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestion to contact the closing admin to request that the history be preserved and that it be re-directed to another article. Apparently, the closing admin was king of hearts. I made two attempts to contact him, but it had already been deleted. I didn't hear back from him, perhaps because it was too late to do anything. I'm still surprised that it was deleted, especially because some of the editors thought it should be kept. I looked at the entry for Libertarian Democrats, and actually some of the things in that article could have been included in the Democratic Freedom Caucus entry if it had been kept. Mab135ac (talk) 17:58, 10 April 2019 (UTC)Mab135ac

Thank you ...
... for improving articles in April! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Trying to figure this out..
Did you get this part?

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Hey there! Sorry! The source is this guy! https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0107415/ He was a writer on the show. He's a friend of mine and asked me to include that since he thinks it's not cool there is no mention of Joe and Dylan when the did like the entire look of the thing and all the props and bets people had to do and Joe did the graphics and funny pop-ups as well. Tee also asked me to include the bit about the poster since that is what Joe is most known for, and I guess Tee is helping him update his IMDB and asked me to do this for him.

As for Spurlock being disgraced..

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/morgan-spurlock-rape-sexual-harassment_n_5a3222ece4b07ff75b004450

Other references. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0420413/?ref_=nm_flmg_ardp_54 https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1157461/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cr36

Tha Maji --Tha Maji (talk) 06:33, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Me too. That is, I can't figure out the connection between your WP edits and these IMDb links. – S. Rich (talk) 18:48, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

The connection is it backs up the source as to their involvement with the show and their other IMDB credits. Tha Maji (talk) 15:54, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLVII, May 2019
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Precious anniversary
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woa u kinda look familiar
I've probably seen you multiple times in the vast land that is wikipedia which means you must be doing a lot of work! --NikkeKatski &#91;Elite&#93; (talk) 14:54, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

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New York, New York! It's a hell of a name!
Perusing Recent Changes I noticed your changes to Evil. Since there have been / will be so many wars over names, I am intrigued at the possibility of any 'certainty'. In those two edits I see you changed both "New York, NY" and "New York City" to just "New York". Is this some facet of |location= that says use the term requiring disambiguation? Or an agreed upon stylistic thing followed (nowadays?) by the publishing industry?

I mean, given the long-term repeated (yearly!) wars here over "What does 'New York' mean?" it seems wrong to force "what? which?" upon the reader. Shenme (talk) 06:43, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't know about specific guidance, but I do see different uses. E.g., New York; New York, NY; New York, N.Y.; etc. in different articles. Since New York is much like London – a world renowned city – I don't think readers will get confused. If they do, they have ready access to tools which will clarify for them. These aren't big edits, just my small attempt to present concise and consistent articles. Please feel free to format the location data as you think best

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 * The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion.  You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
 * Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution!  The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.

Miscellaneous
 * The previously discussed unblocking of IP addresses indefinitely-blocked before 2009 was approved and has taken place.
 * The 2019 talk pages consultation produced a report for Phase 1 and has entered Phase 2.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:49, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

GOCE June newsletter
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:30, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you ...
... for article improvements in June! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:30, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019


Hello ,

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important. Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR. The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever. NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so  you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations. Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for  the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging. Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway. School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.
 * WMF at work on NPP Improvements
 * QUALITY of REVIEWING
 * Backlog
 * Move to draft
 * Notifying users
 * PERM
 * Other news

Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2019). Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg 28bytes • Ad Orientem • Ansh666 • Beeblebrox • Boing! said Zebedee • BU Rob13 • Dennis Brown • Deor • DoRD • 1 • Flyguy649 • 2 • Gadfium • GB fan • Jonathunder • Kusma • Lectonar • Moink • MSGJ • Nick • Od Mishehu • Rama • Spartaz • Syrthiss • TheDJ • WJBscribe
 * 1 's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.
 * 2 's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.

Bureaucrat changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg 28bytes • WJBscribe • Wizardman

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg MSGJ • TheDJ

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Beeblebrox • BU Rob13 • DoRD

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Beeblebrox • BU Rob13 • DoRD • GB fan

Guideline and policy news
 * A request for comment seeking to alleviate pressures on the request an account (ACC) process proposes either raising the account creation limit for extended confirmed editors or granting the account creator permission on request to new ACC tool users.
 * In a related matter, the account throttle has been restored to six creations per day as the mitigation activity completed.
 * The scope of CSD criterion G8 has been tightened such that the only redirects that it now applies to are those which target non-existent pages.
 * The scope of CSD criterion G14 has been expanded slightly to include orphan "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects that target pages that are not disambiguation pages or pages that perform a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists).
 * A request for comment seeks to determine whether Office actions should be a policy page or an information page.

Technical news
 * The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Community feedback is invited.

Miscellaneous
 * In February 2019, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) changed its office actions policy to include temporary and project-specific bans. The WMF exercised this new ability for the first time on the English Wikipedia on 10 June 2019 to temporarily ban and desysop . This action has resulted in significant community discussion, a request for arbitration (permalink), and, either directly or indirectly, the resignations of numerous administrators and functionaries. The WMF Board of Trustees is aware of the situation, and discussions continue on a statement and a way forward. The Arbitration Committee has sent an open letter to the WMF Board.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:20, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

MRI sequences
I had to revert your edits to MRI sequence (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=MRI_sequence&oldid=906490632). It created a duplicate overview table and GRE, and complete deletion of spin echo among others. It was thus difficult to see what parts you may have improved, so feel free to try again for that. Mikael Häggström (talk) 11:41, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The edit came from a glich in my mobile app. I've reloaded the app on my phone and hopefully the problem will disappear. – S. Rich (talk) 17:35, 16 July 2019 (UTC)