User talk:StarshipSLS/Archive 1

Account
I have been editing from an IP address for about a month. I just created an account, and I was wondering if there is anyway to join my IP account and this one. I don't really want my contributions in two separate places.

StarshipSLS (talk) 00:17, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing you found out the answer is "no". You can certainly make a note on your user page pointing to your contributions under the IP address for that particular date range (in case that IP address later gets re-assigned to someone else).  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 01:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

User:jmchnh, I already got the answer from IRC Help.Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 15:09, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Help
There is a discussion about me at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents - Wikipedia. Can someone please look at it and tell me what they think will be the result? Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 22:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm no fortune teller, but it looks like you'll probably be asked to refrain from participating in "meta" activities (such as replying to help requests or closing discussions) until your understanding of how Wikipedia operates sufficiently improves. Have you considered participating in the Adopt-a-user program (as an adoptee of course)? 78.28.55.108 (talk) 09:18, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Fixed your talk page archiving
Hi! I took the liberty of fixing the auto-archiving settings at the top of this page. --rchard2scout (talk) 07:00, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * What was wrong with it?Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 15:03, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * (Random IP, not rchard2scout) You had copied and pasted it from someone else's user page without changing the settings, so it was starting at "archive 28" and was storing old threads in someone else's talk archive, have a look at this diff to see the fixes they made. 192.76.8.91 (talk) 15:59, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't have actually archived anything to the wrong archive, because the bot checks if the archive parameter is set to a subpage of the page it's trying to archive. I fixed it because I'm working on Category:Pages where archive parameter is not a subpage. --rchard2scout (talk) 17:13, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @Rchard2scout Thank you so much! Yes, I did copy and paste it from another person's talk page to make it easier to set up archiving. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 18:09, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

About Adopt-a-User
From my understanding of adopting a user, it means that I help you to understand all of the code, formatting of creating articles, answer any concerns/questions that you may have about Wikipedia. So yeah! Feel free to ask any questions and I will try to answer them as soon as I can — as well as clearly! Jack Reynolds (talk to me &#124; email me) 15:09, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Welcome Adoptee
Hi StarshipSLS, welcome to the Adopt-a-User Program, I will be your mentor within the next couple of weeks and will try my best to introduce you into Wikipedia. What you can expect is that I will answer any question you have and that I will monitor closely any of your contributions (and your talk page). If you have questions contact me on my talk page or via Email - what I do expect is that you read carefully a bunch of Policies and Tutorials before continuing editing the way you did before. I will leave you a whole bunch of information below which you definitely need to read and understand. Welcome! CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:44, 29 April 2021 (UTC)


 * How will being adopted by two users be, @CommanderWaterford and @Jack Reynolds Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 16:45, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

AN/I
I've closed the AN/I with the understanding that you will adhere to your agreement to accept mentorship from a couple of the more experienced editors. I hope this works out well for you, and I welcome you to the project. Please do use caution in your editing - if in doubt, then don't. Ask first if you're not sure about something. Best, and happy editing. — Ched (talk) 17:05, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Welcome!
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. The following links will help you begin editing on Wikipedia:
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * Contributing to Wikipedia
 * How to edit a page
 * Editing tutorial
 * Picture tutorial
 * How to write a great article
 * Naming conventions
 * Simplified Manual of Style
 * Task Center – need some ideas of what kind of things need doing? Go here.

Please bear these points in mind while editing Wikipedia:
 * Respect copyrights – do not copy and paste text or images directly from other websites.
 * Maintain a neutral point of view – this is one of Wikipedia's core policies.
 * Take particular care while adding biographical material about a living person to any Wikipedia page and follow Wikipedia's Biography of Living Persons policy. Particularly, controversial and negative statements should be referenced with multiple reliable sources.
 * No edit warring or abuse of multiple accounts.
 * If you are testing, please use the Sandbox to [ do so].
 * Do not add troublesome content to any article, such as: copyrighted text, libel, advertising or promotional messages, and text that is not related to an article's subject; doing so will result in your account or IP being blocked from editing.
 * Do not use talk pages as discussion or forum pages as Wikipedia is not a forum.

The Wikipedia tutorial is a good place to start learning about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages using four tildes, like this: &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; (the software will replace them with your signature and the date). Again, welcome! CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:45, 29 April 2021 (UTC)


 * @CommanderWaterford I don't need to sign with five tildes because I have a special beta feature that does not require that. In this post I am not signing with five tildes! Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 16:47, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS Sure, I do not either. Important is reading all the links above ... and understand them. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:48, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @CommanderWaterford:I don't really have time to read every word, but I've looked through them today and in the past. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 16:52, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS Well, you should take your time - how long it may take - to read them entirely - if you do not follow them you will run into trouble sooner or later. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:56, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree. You should read them carefully and understand them correctly. Also, I see that you're not ping the correct way. The correct way is to use  . So, if you were to ping me, you would write in  . Hope this helps! Jack Reynolds (talk to me &#124; email me) 18:23, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @CommanderWaterford: Unfortunately, I only have limited time. But, I will read them over time. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 18:42, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

I totally understand! Me and will notice if you've learned from them! Time will tell. Jack Reynolds (talk to me &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 19:44, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Habitation and Logistics Outpost has a new comment
<div style="border:solid 1px #9accf6;background:#f1f9ff;padding:1em;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:1em;color:black;margin-bottom: 1.5em;width: 100%;"> I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Habitation and Logistics Outpost. Thanks! CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:24, 29 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I fixed the problems. Can you look at it again? Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 14:02, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @CommanderWaterford: I fixed the problems. Can you look at it again? Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 14:03, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * CommanderWaterford will get to it. Please do not spam him with pings. Everyone has a life and we must respect that. Thanks. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 14:22, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS @JackReynoldsADogOwner I don't have a life :) but I have too many pings, that is the problem :) :) :)
 * If you expect me to approve the draft I have to disappoint you, I do not approve Drafts of my Adoptees in general (have a look at Advocacy) but I will have a look at it later this day. CommanderWaterford (talk) 15:10, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Habitation and Logistics Outpost has a new comment
<div style="border:solid 1px #9accf6;background:#f1f9ff;padding:1em;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:1em;color:black;margin-bottom: 1.5em;width: 100%;"> I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Habitation and Logistics Outpost. Thanks! CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:09, 30 April 2021 (UTC)


 * @CommanderWaterford: Instructions Followed Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 17:45, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS I dont think so. The draft has not been nominated for CSD G7 nor did you submit a new draft. I suggest you submit this draft as a new one, ping me, and I will do the rest since CSD is a topic perhaps for later. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:19, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Moved to Draft Space
Hi, obviously you are spending a lot of time on Userboxes and Wikiprojects but unfortunately not so much on our content policies - I have moved the totally unreferenced Article which you published directly to mainspace to Draft:Space articles, there you can work on it until it is ready for submitting via Articles for creation. I really suggest slowing down somewhat and take more time in studying in the info links Jack and I gave you. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:53, 2 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @CommanderWaterford: It is a collection of articles, not an article itself. And I did read most of what you gave me. StarshipSLS (talk) 18:13, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS Another thing you have to learn that we do not move discussions from one talk page to another and vice versa. Usually the discussion will be continued where it has started. And please stop pinging me every few minutes for the same reason. This is further not a collection of articles (Wikiproject are formally not Mainspace Articles) and also List Articles do need to be referenced and notable. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:30, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok! StarshipSLS (talk) 18:45, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I again would advise you to ask first before doing something you've never done before (e.g. making a list article in main space, this time). You've got some kind adopt-a-users who would be happy to answer such a question :) Leijurv (talk) 18:48, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @Leijurv: Ok! StarshipSLS (talk) 18:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Just want to let you know...
I don't know if you know this, but an IP user added you to The Downlink members. It's probably not a big deal, but I just want to let you know. - ZLEA  T \ C 19:57, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I see that it was you. - ZLEA  T \ C 19:57, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @ZLEA: I was the IP address. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 13:15, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS Do not add or edit further with your IP Address Account. @JackReynoldsADogOwner fyi.  CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:27, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * OK StarshipSLS (talk) 18:50, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

SLS Fan Userbox
Thanks for finding a new photo for the NASA SLS userbox. There are few tricks with getting images to work. First off, don't use "thumb" You want to just have the file name and then after that you can specify a max dimension XXpx for width or x##px for height. Using the DIV tags and style set the maximum sizes for the box in which the photo will sit and overflow allows the image to exceed that space without it causing issues (basically cropping the image to 45px × 45px).

So using "|x68px" after the image makes it wide enough and tall enough to fill the space without trouble.

Keep experimenting with them! Carter (talk) 18:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @Tcr25: Thanks for your help! Also, I need help with the Super Simple Userbox Maker. How do you put images in userboxes you make there? StarshipSLS (talk) 20:35, 2 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's non-intuitive because it doesn't connect to Wikipedia for the preview. Basically, you just put the file name in in brackets and it will show you words instead of the picture. When you create the userbox page on Wikipedia and paste in the code from Super-Simple Userbox Maker you can then see the picture and do any necessary tweaking. So for the above userbox, you could put the whole line in to SSUM or you could put just , or you could just leave the   field empty and then fill it in when you create the page on Wikipedia. Feel free to ask if you run into any other stumbling blocks. Carter (talk) 21:24, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @Tcr25: Yes, I'll let you know if I need help. Who created the maker? StarshipSLS (talk) 21:26, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
 * User:The Userboxer Carter (talk) 21:56, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

New Questions
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Questions as of May 1, 2021: <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 17:56, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * What is the specific order to categorized categories?
 * If you are personally being attacked by a user of Wikipedia, what should you do and why?
 * If you are to write about somebody that is close to you, what is that called and should you make it?
 * When you see/witness a user doing disruptive editing, what should you do first?
 * What does  mean and why is it important?


 * 👍 CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:16, 30 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Does that mean that I'm asking good questions? <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 18:21, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner Absolutely. Good work. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:23, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yay! You can also ask any questions if you want to! I'll be adding more questions whenever I feel like StarshipSLS is ready to answer them. The above are just some that necessary to ask. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 18:38, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner I will for sure but first of all I would be keen to see the answers. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:46, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner @CommanderWaterford:
 * 3RR is the three revert rule. It means you cannot revert three edits in a single article within 24 hours. It is important so a user doesn't disrupt the article. Exception: self-reverting

Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 18:56, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Categories
 * About the subject
 * Subcategories
 * subcategory  subcategory    and so on...
 * Article            Article
 * Article            Article
 * Pages in category "  ......    "
 * Article          and so on...
 * Article Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 19:03, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * If you are attacked, you can submit a complaint to a noticeboard. You can also discuss whatever happened with the user. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 19:04, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS A) Which noticeboard, we have several dozens. B) Which is the correct policy, where can I read about what to do in case of personal attacks? CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:16, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @CommanderWaterford: I'll get back to you with that. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 13:23, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @CommanderWaterford: A) Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, B) No personal attacks Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 13:48, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @CommanderWaterford: A) Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, B) No personal attacks Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 13:48, 1 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I don't remember what it is called when you write about someone close to you, but I know that it is not aloud. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 19:05, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This is a little bit disappointing since it is described extensive in the info I gave you yesterday. And you are wrong, it could be okay (in some cases). It is called Conflict of Interest Editing. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:16, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @CommanderWaterford: I am sorry, but I wasn't able to read everything. I have a personal life too, and I only have so much time here. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 13:21, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You can do it if you state your conflict of interest. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 14:11, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If you see someone doing disruptive editing, revert the edit and let the user know. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 19:06, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Alrighty. This has given information that we needed so far. First of all, Eponymous categories should come first after the article and it is at the bottom on the page with. Conflict of Interest is where you have a personal connection to the topic you are writing about. That is not allowed. Please read over WP:COI to learn more about Conflict of Interest whenever you have time. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 21:51, 30 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I read through parts of it. I know what it is, I just didn't remember the name. I didn't know what kind of category you meant. Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 13:20, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner, @CommanderWaterford: Conflict: @CommanderWaterford says that conflict of interest is allowed sometimes but @JackReynoldsADogOwner says that it is not aloud. Also, I made a sandbox! Starship SLS (formerly IP 64.121.103.144) (talk) 20:15, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS First of all no need to ping me twice in one sentence, I do see any of your contributions. If @JackReynoldsADogOwner says that COI is not allowed then he is wrong. COI editing is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia but it is - if you respect several conditions - allowed. Editors with a COI, including paid editors, are expected to disclose it whenever they seek to change an affected article's content. Anyone editing for pay must disclose who is paying them, who the client is, and any other relevant affiliation; this is a requirement of the Wikimedia Foundation. COI editors should not edit affected articles directly, but should propose changes on article talk pages instead. CommanderWaterford (talk) 20:25, 1 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for explaining it to him. Sorry for the inconvenice. And to StarshipSLS, I do have another question, I'll still working on how to present it. Thanks again to both! <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 12:07, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

SpaceX Private Astronaut renames
I notice that you just renamed a number of articles to "SpaceX Private Astronaut [name]". This appears to be contrary to our article naming policy found at WP:COMMONNAME. I suggest reverting these changes and follow the correct procedure for moving articles. Woodroar (talk) 00:45, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @StarshipSLS Indeed! I will revert all of these changes. Next time I will report you for this edits again at ANI, obviously you did not learn that much from last time unfortunately. @JackReynoldsADogOwner fyi.  CommanderWaterford (talk) 07:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for notifying me about this! And to StarshipSLS, please make sure to go over what you're going to be doing (such as renaming articles, moving them, reverting edits, and such) with us — CommanderWaterford and I — so you don't get into trouble. Please keep this in mind. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 12:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok StarshipSLS (talk) 12:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS @JackReynoldsADogOwner Ok unfortunately is not sufficient, I do not see any apologies at all. Furthermore I saw you editing a couple of minutes ago with your IP Address again. If you do not stop this kind of editing I will have unfortunately to ask for blocking you. CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 12:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner, @CommanderWaterford: Yes, I am sorry I did that. Also, I did not notice that I edited with my IP address. I thought I was logged in. I will ask you before doing something new. StarshipSLS (talk) 13:18, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I will try to do better. StarshipSLS (talk) 13:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm glad you feel remorsed, I just hope this actually get in your brain. This action — among others — have repeated itself. I am giving you a tough love right now. I just hope you'll be able to continue editing Wikipedia. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 13:24, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: Can you teach me about moving pages so I don't make another mistake? StarshipSLS (talk) 14:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Of course! TO begin with, you must be autoconfirmed user and up to move pages. As I can see, you are already autoconfirmed. Before moving any pages, you must stop and think about why you are going to move the page. Below are the main reasons why you shoud move pages:


 * The title does not follow Wikipedia's naming conventions, such as that it is not the common name of the subject or it is overprecise.
 * The subject of the article has changed its name and the new name has come into majority use.
 * The title has been misspelled, does not contain standard capitalization or punctuation, or is misleading or inaccurate.
 * It needs to be disambiguated in some way to avoid confusion with an existing, similarly named topic, or it exists at a disambiguated name but should not because it is the primary topic.
 * It is an article at a descriptive name and the scope of the article has been reduced, extended or otherwise changed.
 * It is an article that has been created as a subpage of a Wikipedian's user or user talk space for development purposes and it is ready to be posted to the mainspace or to draft space.
 * It is a draft article that has been created or edited in draft space for development purposes and it is ready to be posted to the mainspace.
 * If the article fits one or more the list above, then you may move the page, stating a reason. After you've done so, you must notify the user who created the article. You must include the  in the subject and in the body of the main message, you must include 1) reasoning(s), 2) notice that you moved the page to draftspace, and 3) what they can do if they feel that the article meets with the Wikipedia's general notability guideline. To begin notify the user, first you have to go yo the user's talk page. Then, click on  at the top right corner of the screen. I have attached below the general layout of how to notify a user that their page has been moved to draftspace:

Subject/Headline:

Body/Main Message: " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. ~


 * I hope this helps. If you are unsure if you should or should not move a page, you can also reach out to me and CommanderWaterford and/or you can also request a move of the page by inserting  at the top of the page and a user with the page mover ability will review over you're request and they will either accept the request and move the page or deny it. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 14:41, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: Thanks so much! That is so helpful. What about when I move a page that was created years ago? StarshipSLS (talk) 15:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * For articles that have been created years ago, I would suggest adding a section to the talk page of that article suggesting the idea of moving the page. If nobody responds back for a couple of days, you should ask CommanderWaterford or I about the situation. Do not do it immediately. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 15:08, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I noticed that you closed a discussion above. If you want, you can also close discussion easily. I personally like the feature. You can find the description and how to install it here. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 15:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: I don't understand how to use it to close a discussion. StarshipSLS (talk) 15:26, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS Let me be frankly - I suggest gathering by far more experience before starting to move pages around here. Further I can't help getting the impression that we are dealing here with someone who has a deep COI for SpaceX related topics. @JackReynoldsADogOwner CommanderWaterford (talk) 15:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @CommanderWaterford: I do not work for SpaceX, I just really like the company. StarshipSLS (talk) 15:29, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I am interested in all space exploration. StarshipSLS (talk) 15:30, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well time will tell, for now I suggest not moving any page around before understanding how Wikipedia works. CommanderWaterford (talk) 15:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @CommanderWaterford: I do not work for SpaceX, but I would like to. And, I will not move another page until I learn how to do it right. StarshipSLS (talk) 15:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I agree with CommanderWaterford by not moving any pages until you now how and understand Wikipedia's guidelines. But, you feel strongly towards a page that it should be moved, reach out to either of us and we'll take it from there. Side note, the DiscussionCloser is not a big deal for now. We have bigger fish to fry. Don't worry about it. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 15:39, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner:I anyway figured the closures out. StarshipSLS (talk) 15:43, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

???
I suggested you ask before doing anything new, you agreed, you made a new list article, I made the suggestion again, you agreed again, you renamed a half dozen articles. Now I make the suggestion a third time, but I don't think it's... working. Do you agree? So I won't make it a fourth. Do you see how this looks like your agreements to be more careful are... hollow? I wouldn't be surprised if you end up back at WP:ANI. If you do, the admins will see the same thing I see (and your adopt-a-users see) which is that you've made agreements to follow policies and avoid disruptive editing, and then immediately gone back on those agreements within a few days. Please don't just reply with a "I will try to do better" because you have already said that. That's what I see when I read the section above where your adopt-a-users say similar things to this. It might be best if instead you gave an explanation of what's going on. Just repeating a promise to try harder / do better won't work anymore (in my eyes). Perhaps there is some confusion here that I just don't see? Otherwise an admin might give you a WP:CIR block, which I am starting to think might be a good idea. :( Leijurv (talk) 18:24, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @Leijurv: I am sorry that I forgot our agreement. I do not have a good memory for such things. StarshipSLS (talk) 18:27, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Closing discussions -- please slow down
I note the discussion you just "closed" on Talk:SpaceX Starship. (diff)

In my view, that discussion did not need to be explicitly closed. Like most Talk page sections: a couple of editors had a chat, it's now over, nothing more need be done, per Closing discussions.

In general, it seems to me that you are a little overeager to use every tool you learn about on the wiki. My collegial advice to a newer editor: do fewer things, and do them really well! ... before deciding you are an experienced editor and thoroughly know how to do various things, and when it might or might not be appropriate to do various things. For example, how to build consensus with fellow editors, how to determine when different sorts of formal and informal discussions and closings need to be done, and when they don't, assessing when your experience is such that you should move into a new area, or use new and different tools; and when you should not. Cheers. N2e (talk) 21:40, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @N2e: Ok. Thanks for your great advice! Also, would you be interested in joining WikiProject Rocketry? You have edited rocket articles and we need more members to make the project active. Currently only me and @JackReynoldsADogOwner edit the project. StarshipSLS (talk) 21:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Great question. But that is one of the things I had to learn in Wikipedia editing.  None of us have the time to do everything, we always must give something up to do anything we choose to take action on.  So I realized that spaceflight was already big enough, and it would require other special editors in Wikipedia to choose to go after improving all the many things that need improved in Rocketry articles.  Once I did that, I took myself out of the Rocketry wikiproject.  Cheers.  N2e (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

The Downlink – May 2021
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Welcome!
Hello, StarshipSLS, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created may not conform to some of Wikipedia's content policies and may not be retained. In short, the topic of an article must be notable and have already been the subject of publication by reliable and independent sources.

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 * I'm welcoming myself to get links to help articles, @JackReynoldsADogOwner@CommanderWaterford StarshipSLS (talk) 20:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC)


 * That's a very great thing to do! Good job problem solving! <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 12:13, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Habitation and Logistics Outpost (Gateway Module) (May 5)
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Hi there StarshipSLS!
Just a normal question, are you still active? Thanks! (don't mind the Z thing) [Z] --XecityZaien (talk) 08:57, 5 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @XecityZaien: Do you mean active in editing or WikiProjects? StarshipSLS (talk) 12:10, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No, I meant are you mostly online? --XecityZaien (talk) 12:52, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @XecityZaien: It depends on the day. But, I usually edit at least once per day. StarshipSLS (talk) 13:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @XecityZaien: Can I know why are you asking this? StarshipSLS (talk) 15:14, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I wanted to ask someone if they're online because Oshwah's not responding my message so just asking to ask if your active. <3 --XecityZaien (talk) 01:13, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I am active, @XecityZaien. StarshipSLS (talk) 15:04, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

 * Hi StarshipSLS! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission.  I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
 * The Wikipedia Adventure Start Page
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Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!

 * Hi StarshipSLS! We're so happy you wanted to play to learn, as a friendly and fun way to get into our community and mission.  I think these links might be helpful to you as you get started.
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 * Wikipedia Help pages

-- 14:38, Monday, April 26, 2021 (UTC)

Editing other Userpages ?
May I ask you what exactly do you intend by creating other Users(=IP Editors) Userpages ? CommanderWaterford (talk) 10:35, 13 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @CommanderWaterford:I was making a note on it that it is a Shared IP. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 15:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS We usually do not edit others Userpages - you can leave a Welcome Message on their *talk* Page, see here Template:Welcome-anon for example. CommanderWaterford (talk) 15:36, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @CommanderWaterford: Ok, I understand. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 18:19, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Creating Redirects in Draft Space
Hi, please do not move AfC Drafts to other Article Titles and later create redirects for the abandoned drafts. You further need to speedy delete the abandoned Draft per WP:CSD G7, I did this now for you. CommanderWaterford (talk) 07:53, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

May 2021
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Draft:Super Heavy (booster). Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. I asked you a couple of hours ago to stop creating redirects in Draft space and moving drafts every few hours, now you did again. CommanderWaterford (talk) 22:06, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively, you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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 * @CommanderWaterford: I am so sorry. I forgot that. How can I move the draft without creating a redirect? I was told to make this move because there is a rule relating to the subject to name it in a particular way. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 23:22, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS I am sorry but I do not buy this, you seem to be of very short memory, my warning was only a couple of hours before. There is absolute no need to move Drafts around for you as a a creator - the Reviewer in the end confirms (or changes) the Article title anyway. Please show me the diff where you have been asked to move the draft by whom.  CommanderWaterford (talk) 07:20, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Here: Talk:SpaceX Starship: Difference between revisions - Wikipedia StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 11:42, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @StarshipSLS I do not see any instructions - just a suggestion by an Editor - no one said to move the Draft to a new article title and create redirects. And honestly I would expect if you would have asked your mentors before doing so because those moves exactly brought you into trouble weeks ago. CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:51, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @CommanderWaterford: They said that there is a rule of how to name it to show that it is a rocket stage. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 11:53, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Draft:Vega launches, you may be blocked from editing. ''You are kidding me obviously - hours after 2 asking of not creating redirects for drafts you do not own you are continuining. If you do not stop this I will ask for blocking you indefinitely.'' CommanderWaterford (talk) 07:30, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
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 * @CommanderWaterford: I was following instructions and I did not realize that it was the same thing I did before. I am really sorry. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 11:40, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I really did not realize it. Please give me another chance. I am really so sorry. You will see that I will not do it again. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 11:44, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Questions as of May 18
Below are more questions that I want you to answer:
 * 1) If an account was created meaning to vandalism an article or two and you happen to encounter one of them, what are you going to do?
 * 2) What is wrong with the following paragraph?:

<b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 15:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner:
 * Report it.
 * It has lots of spelling and grammar mistakes. It has no references. Also, a poll should not be in an article and the author has a conflict of interest and does not write in a neutral way.
 * StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 17:50, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You should report it to the User Conduct noticeboard.
 * StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 17:50, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner:
 * Also at the anti-vandalism noticeboard.
 * StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 18:16, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * 2. Dad should be father. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 19:57, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Good job spotting the errors of the paragraph. That's a great first start. There is one more thing I want you to do; but before I tell you what it is, there are few things you should know. The paragraph that I created, I made sure the errors were noticeable and could be spotted within few seconds. But the next time I do a question like that, the paragraph will be somewhat complete, but you will have check on references (see if their reliable or not, primary or secondary, user-generated or not, and such), the sentence structure, word choices and so much more. With this being said, I will not hesitate to create a made-up article that you will have to anaylaze the categories, the external links, headings, templates (?), sentence structure, references, and much more. That is just a heads-ups, and notice that I did insert links to helpful articles that I would recommend you read over, if not already.

With that off the side, I want you to rewrite the paragraph and fix it so it fits with Wikipedia's guideline. Don't worry about looking for references since you would literally find nothing because the character is not real. BUT, I do want you to place  and   and such on sentences that you find that would need to have a reference. For example, if I was going to write about, I would write something like:


 * I hope this helps! Good job! <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 12:35, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: I do not really have much time this week. But, I hope to do it soon. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:37, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: I was able to do it now. How is this>
 * Arnold Schwartz is a captain of a U.S. military base.[1] He was highly intelligent and that was agreed among his companions.[2] "Yes, he's the most intellectual military commander in the whole wide world," said Jen Seen, a fellow companion of his.[3]Born and raised into a rich family, he wanted to create a world where everyone had a say.[4] He began working on foundations that he created himself, and was named the Number 1 Influential Being on Earth.[5] With the money from his father, he spent half of it to charities that helped people with disabilities while the other half was sent to hospitals.[6] StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:52, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: I also want to let you know that I only can be on Wikipedia for an hour or two each day total. So do not be surprised if I take a long time to answer questions. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:54, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I totally get. Also, when I said to "rewrite" the paragraph, I didn't mean for you to copy-and-paste it. I wanted you to rewrite it, in your own word. This quiz does have a reason behind it: when you are provided with a piece of information and you want to rewrite it, it does not mean to copy-and-paste it. It does, however, mean that you should rewrite it whole with your original words, not copied-and-pasted. Now, this is your first time doing it, so I won't hold a grudge on you. But, the next I do ask you to rewrite a sentence or a paragraph, that is what I meant. This can also be applied to Wikipedia articles as well. I am, however, impressed at how you spotted the errors and did fixed the grammar. So,. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 15:30, 19 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: Do you still want me to rewrite it? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 15:31, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You don't have to. I just wanted to see. As I said before, it is the first time. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 15:34, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Your signature
Your signature is unnecessarily long and distracting; see WP:SIGLENGTH for guidance. You may wish to use a busy-like template on your user page instead. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 22:49, 22 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @ProcrastinatingReader: Fixed StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 00:13, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi again!
Hi Starship. Since CommanderWaterford is blocked, would you like me to replace him as one of your adopters? Of course, I understand you still have others who are willing to help you, but you seem like an extensively productive editor and I would love to help you! versacespace leave a message!  23:25, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: I've un-closed the discussions you closed on your talk-page. You accidentally closed the entire talk page and as a result new messages will appear resolved when they're not. We generally do not close these discussions anyway. versacespace  leave a message!  23:30, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace: Sure! Question: Do you ever edit spaceflight articles? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 13:20, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace: Just so you know, I am the project coordinator at WikiProject Rocketry, and I need help with it. I also need help with Draft:Super Heavy (rocket stage). StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 13:22, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Ok! What exactly do you need help with. Which aspect of the article? And for the reocrd, I don't really edit spaceflight articles. versacespace  leave a message!  22:27, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace: Sources and the tables. It is a draft which is under review. And I also need help at WikiProject Rocketry. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) Note: I will be taking a vacation in July and August. I won't edit during my vacation. 22:34, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * well I'd certainly be happy to help you complete your goals before your vacation! If you want we could start now, I have nothing to do. What do you need help with in relation to the sources? It would probably be good to combat that first. versacespace  leave a message!  22:39, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace: Most of the sources are from nasaspaceflight.com. I am working on adding references from other sources. Here are some preferred sources: msn.com, The Washington Post, spacex.com. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 23:07, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * okay. Question: wouldn't SpaceX be a primary source? versacespace  leave a message!  23:12, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace: Yes, SpaceX would be a primary source. All the other sources are secondary. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 23:13, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace: Also, comments on the draft would be very helpful. Do you think it will be accepted? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 23:15, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 23:26, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Well...there's no lead section, and you're going to need one. versacespace  leave a message!  00:08, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace: What do you mean? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 00:11, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace: I understand now. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 00:12, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace: ✅ StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 00:13, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Glad you were able to fix the problem. Here's another one: Reference 1 is cited in the article but like...it's literally not a thing lol. When you hover over it with your cursor it's just nothing. That will need to be fixed. Also ref 2 is a broken template versacespace  leave a message!  00:17, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace Ok. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 00:18, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Help
Can someone review Draft:Super Heavy (rocket stage)? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 17:50, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The help me template should not be used to request reviews (and ostensibly, "skip the queue"). Primefac (talk) 18:03, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Help
Can someone offer suggestions about Draft:Super Heavy (rocket stage) and whether it will be accepted? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 20:08, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * This would definitely be a good question to ask at WP:WikiProject Rocketry, as many users there may understand the topic a lot more than we do. versacespace  leave a message!  20:14, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace: Only my other mentor works there. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions)  22:52, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace: But what do you think? Will it be accepted? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 23:11, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * At a first glance it seems fine. versacespace  leave a message!  00:16, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

About your adoption
Hi StarshipSLS. I know that your mentor had been blocked and you have been interested about taking my mentorship with me. But unfortunately, I will not be able to mentor you. I'm losing interest in Wikipedia, honestly. So much business and college stuff happening in this month. I'll be unable to help you. Sorry, but you may have to seek another mentor. Though, you can have a chit-chat with my adoptee, Chicdat, he's very active.  Mario Jump  83!  06:29, 24 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @MarioJump83: Don't worry. VersaceSpace has just adopted me. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) I am taking a vacation in summer and won't edit in July and August. 12:07, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Starship orbital test flight (May 26)
<div style="border: solid 1px #FCC; background-color: #F8EEBC; padding: 0.5em 1em; color: #000; margin: 1.5em; width: 90%;"> Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Devonian Wombat was:

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Devonian Wombat (talk) 11:38, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

RFA

 * Howdy hello. I see you have nominated an editor for adminship Requests_for_adminship/C-randles. However, that's not quite how it works. For starters, you didn't even get their permission. You asked, but then didn't wait for a reply. Second, nominators are traditionally admins themselves, or very experienced editors. Third, there is a standard template that RFA's follow. The nom also needs to be transcluded onto the RFA page. So I know you are eager, but for the most part, it is best to simply vote on RFAs. The chance to actually nominate someone is rare and hard earned. CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 02:29, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Less than a month ago a thread about you was closed at ANI and now you've opened an entire RfA? Please do not do this... versacespace  leave a message!  02:46, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It seems like you have forgotten our agreement again. :( Really, ask your very kind mentors/adopters before doing something new, please. I'm not sure what to suggest because I'm not sure what is challenging about that idea. Leijurv (talk) 04:02, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I was coming here (again) about something else. I'll avoid starting a new section, just some advice: please slow down in general. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 12:34, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @ProcrastinatingReader: Got it. Ok. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 12:36, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Hey, SSLS. I see that by far most of your contributions] are to user talk, your own user page, and Wikipedia space. That is exactly the opposite of what you should have at this point. As a new editor, by far most of your contributions should be at article (red) or article talk (bright green). —valereee (talk) 21:04, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, and see this convo too. ——  Serial  11:43, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Jeez. SSLS, I strongly advise you to stop doing anything except improving articles (and drafts) until you see this is more than half Main + Draft. Do not nominate anyone for anything, do not participate in discussions in Wikipedia space except at WikiProject Rocketry or to ask a question at Teahouse, do not ask questions at RfA. You are not experienced enough to do any of those things. Like others I'm a bit concerned that your mentors are not experienced enough themselves to keep you out of trouble. @VersaceSpace and @JackReynoldsADogOwner, I appreciate your time working with this enthusiastic new and probably very young editor, but please if you aren't familiar with an area yourselves, tell SSLS to stay away. Some of their behavior is verging on Disruptive editing. —valereee (talk) 12:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @Valereee: Can I discuss at WikiProject Spaceflight? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:12, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * SSLS, you may discuss at any WikiProject where you are actively working on articles as long as you keep the socializing within reason. You seem to be treating Wikipedia a bit like some sort of MMORPG you're exploring. I'm glad you're enthusiastic about figuring out this place, but you should be focussing on learning policy basics and making improvements rather than finding all the secret rooms. —valereee (talk) 14:49, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Visual Editor
The Visual Editor keeps getting stuck. It also loads a long time. When I was editing History of Spaceflight, the visual editor stopped working. When I reloaded the page it loaded for a long time. What do I do? It usually worked before for me. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 13:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I just tried it again and it got stuck again. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 13:36, 27 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Works fine for me... loaded in a few seconds. It is a large article, though, and I didn't do any intense edits. Would it be a RAM issue? What were you doing when it crashed?  TG HL ↗  🍁 13:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @TheGoodAndHolyLord: I was adding a new section. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 13:39, 27 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Doesn't bring up a crash for me – for now :) – WP:VPT may be able to help. Assuming you're on desktop, though, I would reboot your computer and try again, with little other tabs open. Just a thought.  TG HL ↗  🍁 13:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @TheGoodAndHolyLord: Ok. Thanks for the help. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 13:51, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @TheGoodAndHolyLord: But actually, a similar thing has happened to me before. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 13:52, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Strange, very strange. Perhaps a bug report would be better, then. (Though I don't know how frequently that page is monitored)  TG HL ↗  🍁 13:57, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @TheGoodAndHolyLord: Ok, I did it. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:46, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Mainspace articles suggest

 * With recent dilemma that has come of you (see here and this one), it has been stated that you should be editing more mainspace articles. As stated: "I strongly advise you to stop doing anything except improving articles (and drafts) until you see this is more than half Main + Draft". I would agree with her. There are currently Special:Statistics articles on Wikipedia and I bet that are articles that you can edit and that fits with your interest. With this being said, I strongly suggest you to use  which will give you lists of articles that needs to be worked on based on the pages you've edited and interests you have. To get started, add   on your talk page &mdash; but if you want to have suggested articles based on a specific page, then you would insert  . If you want a combination of articles and categories, then you would want to insert   and so on. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 13:19, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm in agreement with here. Either use the suggest bot or edit articles that interest you, please. You know what you want to edit more than we do. Over 400 edits to your user talk page with less than 50 to any articles is not good and you could be blocked as not here to build an encyclopedia.  versacespace  leave a message!  13:31, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace@JackReynoldsADogOwner: Ok. How do I get SuggestBot to send me space-related articles? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:10, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Jack Reynolds sufficiently described the process to you. Use on your talk page and wait for SuggestBot to leave a message.  versacespace  leave a message!  14:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That was stated above. Just find categories (and or pages) that you want to edit that are similar. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 14:13, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace@JackReynoldsADogOwner: Would this work? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:19, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * yes. versacespace  leave a message!  14:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace@JackReynoldsADogOwner: I added the template. How long will it take to start getting suggestions? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:23, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Actually, it won't work. You're close, but just remove  and  . So, it would look like:   <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 14:25, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:SUGGESTBOT says it should take less than fifteen minutes. versacespace  leave a message!  14:25, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: Ok, I will fix it. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:28, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: I see that you already fixed it. Thanks! StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:29, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace@JackReynoldsADogOwner: How do you like the table I just added to Space Launch System? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:39, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

It's good. A tip: If you are having a hard time creating something, I'd suggest you to find an article and reference that. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 14:48, 26 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: I do not understand what you mean. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:56, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @VersaceSpace@JackReynoldsADogOwner: I think something's wrong. Shouldn't I have got the suggestions by now? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 14:57, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner@VersaceSpace I've just increased draft and article edits from 9% to 10%. But I have a lot to go to get to 50%. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 15:03, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Good job! I tried out the suggestbot with one of the same category and other two categories that I think best suits you:

<b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 15:24, 26 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: Great! Thanks so much! How often will I get suggestions? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 15:26, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It depends on how much you want the SuggestBot to do it. So, this is just once. If you want it to suggest more articles, then you have to add the template again. The template that I used is:

<b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 15:31, 26 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner:@VersaceSpace: Update:
 * User Talk: 45.8%
 * User: 16.1%
 * Wikipedia: 11.6%
 * Wikipedia Talk: 7.7%
 * Draft: 6.6%
 * Talk: 5.5%
 * Main: 3.4%
 * Draft Talk: 2.3%
 * Template: 0.9%
 * Category Talk: 0.1%
 * Portal: 0.1%
 * I've tried to edit mainspace and draft more but it isn't working. What do I do? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 15:24, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Edits to the mainspace should come naturally to you. See a typo? Fix it. See a ? Find the citation. See that some information on a topic you like is missing? Find the sources and add the information. See an uncategorized article tag? add categories. If these things don't come to you naturally, then maybe consider that this isn't the place for you. versacespace  leave a message!  16:11, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Well, 487 edits of your are in the user talk page, 36 are in the mainspace, and 70 are in draft. That's a long way. Just keep on editing. That's my only advice for you. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 15:29, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Every time you come back to edit your user talk page, that increases the user talk percentage at the cost of all the other percentages. Therefore, it is actually going against your goal to come back to this page so often. 😉😉😉 Leijurv (talk) 19:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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History of spaceflight
Hello StarshipSLS. "History of..." are collections of historical data, not potential future events or accomplishments, hence the name. This is why I reverted part of your contributions to History of spaceflight (as I plainly stated). You reverted it with a argument that makes no sense regarding this issue. You will note that similar articles such as History of aviation and History of rockets does not include future events. --askeuhd (talk) 07:05, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Email Reply
As I cannot reply to your email without disclosing my email address, I will do so here. Where will this be located and what will it be about? (You can send me another email if you don't want to publicly share this information) Keep in mind I am very busy with school right now, as displayed on my talk/user page. N828335 (talk) 23:53, 30 May 2021 (UTC)


 * @N828335: Hello. The website is https://starshipsls.wixsite.com/futureastronaut. It is a space fan club. If you sign up, they will ask you your email, but it won't be visible to me or other users. I need members to join. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 17:10, 31 May 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. I might look into that more once I have more free time on my hands. I guess I could use an alternate email address, it is just that the email connected to my Wikipedia account contains my real name. N828335 (talk) 17:25, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @N828335: Would you be interested in being co-owner of the site? You don't need much time and I would do most of the work.
 * Position rights:
 * You would have full access to manage, edit & publish site, invite people, but would not be able to delete or transfer site. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 18:01, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * @N828335: And you do not need an alternate email. Actually, you do need an alternate email. Can you please give me your alternate email? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 18:08, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

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Don't forget to finish your Userboxes from long ago. 98.148.167.84 (talk) 18:11, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


 * I did a few of them but I won't do all of them. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 18:23, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Congrats On Being Extended Confirmed
Sorry for the late congrats! But, I just realized that you are now extended confirmed. With that ability in your pocket, you can now edit pages that are extended protected. But, with the ability, it also comes with responsibility. I'm glad to see that most of your contribution has been well fulfilled. I'm sorry that I haven't been able to check up on you. I will hopefully get to you either later today or tomorrow. As always, don't hesitate to post on my user talk page or even email me with any questions! With that being said, congrats! <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 12:50, 8 June 2021 (UTC)


 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: Thanks! StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 15:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Marking Articles for speedy deletion
With a recent contribution of yours, you marked Hot fire test for speedy deletion (SD) with the reasoning "Creator obviously abandoned this". Thankfully, reverted your edit. There are couple things I need you to understand when marking an article for deletion. 1) When you do want to mark an article for SD, you need to make sure you have a reasoning behind it and choose the correct template/reason to go with it. 2) Know when you should or should not mark an article for deletion (for help, see WP:SPEEDY and WP:DP). 3) Know how to accrutaly mark it for deletion using Twinkle. This means by selected the correct parameters to fit with your reason and fill out the required field. When 31.41.45.190 reverted your edit, he (or she) provided that the article isn't ready for speedy deletion according to WP:G13 where there's no activity within the draft for at least 6-months. With this being, I need you to be careful with what template you're using. I know I've gotten stuck with that. I don't want you to be. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 17:30, 9 June 2021 (UTC)


 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: Ok, I understand. I also have a question about it. What if no one has edited a draft except me for 6 months. Would its still qualify for deletion? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 18:25, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Good question and the answer would be no. The reason why is because you are still editing it. The WP:G13 only applies to drafts that haven't been edited by any users for at least 6 months. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 18:34, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * @JackReynoldsADogOwner: If that would be the case, could I nominate it for speedy deletion if only I had edited it for 6 months? StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 18:36, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * No because it would be considered as an active draft meaning user (if not users) are still editing the draft and making it better. If you'd like to tag it for deletion, I'd suggest contacting the initial creator of the article to see if it's okay. <b style="color:red">Jack Reynolds</b> (<b style="color:blue">talk to me</b> &#124; <b style="color:grey">email me</b>) 18:39, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

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Hello!
Hello. Do I need to have a permission to launch service providers to recreate their launch vehicle diagrams as schematics which is created by me for use as illustration? Thanks. User:Ahthga YramTalk with me! I want to change my name! 02:50, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

No. Thanks for asking. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 01:55, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

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WikiProject SpaceX
Hi. Would you be interested in joining a WikiProject SpaceX? If you are please add support on it proposal page.

Yes! I would be glad too! StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 16:57, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

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SpaceX Starship peer review invite
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StarshipSLS?
Hey, I think I need some feedback on SpaceX Starship. Since you are WP:SPACEFLIGHT and WP:ROCKETRY coordinator, as well as having half of your username the article's title, I think you are perfect for reviewing it! I want to have a content review, since I afraid I might miss crucial details. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 04:04, 25 November 2021 (UTC)


 * @CactiStaccingCrane: Hi, thanks for letting me know. I will take a look! StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 19:41, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * @CactiStaccingCrane: It looks great! I don't have enough time to do an in-depth review of it, so I would ask an administrator to look into it StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 19:54, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 02:37, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 16:10, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
 * @CactiStaccingCrane Would you like to join WP:Rocketry? We are currently short of active members so your help would be appreciated! StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 16:21, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I kinda did lol, I gonna chip in now :) CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 01:20, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Uh, about that, I think no one has looked into the article. Do you want me to ask someone else instead? CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 10:26, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @CactiStaccingCrane: I looked into it, but I don't have time for an extensive review. I would suggest to ask someone else. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 19:01, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
 * @CactiStaccingCrane Also, I need help assessing the Rocketry articles. Some articles are also incorrectly assessed. Could you help? You can find information on assessing rocketry articles at WikiProject Rocketry/Assessment. StarshipSLS (Talk), (My Contributions) 16:20, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes! Albeit, I have tons of work to do, but I'll try my best. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 00:17, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

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