User talk:Thingg/archive 4

SarekOfVulcan RFA
Thank you for !voting on my RfA. If you supported, I'll make sure your confidence is not misplaced; if you opposed, I'll take your criticism into account and try to adjust my behavior accordingly.

See you around the wiki!--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 00:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Ed Williams
Thingg, sorry about the Ed Williams edits. I'm Ed Williams. I just figured if the page was going to get hacked up with all the citations and stuff that it be best to simply delete it. I don't think anyone is going to want to spend the time to prove I graduated from college or anything, so why not spare us all the bother and take it down? Sorry if I went about that the wrong way. You can email me at: ed3@ed-williams.com to verify my identity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.1.139.224 (talk) 01:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Radford High School (Virginia)
Hi. This is just to let you know that when tagging something as a likely copyright violation, you need to blank the article as well as apply the template, and then list it at Copyright_problems -- there's a link at the top of the template which takes you to today's entry. This procedure has now been completed for Radford High School (Virginia). Cheers. Acromaniac (talk) 14:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Annette Laming-Emperaire DYK suggestion
Hi Thingg. Your Annette Laming-Emperaire DYK request requires a response. Please see Annette Laming-Emperaire DYK suggestion. Thanks. Bebestbe (talk) 20:15, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
My RfA  Thank you for your support in my recent RfA, which closed successfully. I felt the process was a thorough review of my contributions and my demeanor, and I was very gratified to see how many editors took the time to really see what I'm about and how I can be of help to the project. As a result, some editors changed their views during the discussion, and most expressed specific, detailed points to indicate their opinion (whether it was, , or ).

A number of editors were concerned about my level of experience. I was purposeful in not waiting until a particular benchmark occurred before requesting adminship, because I feel - as many do - that adminship is not a reward and that each case is individual. It is true that I am not the most experienced editor around here, but I appreciate that people dug into my contributions enough to reach the conclusion that I seem to have a clue. Also, the best thing about this particular concern is that experience is something an editor - or administrator - can always get more of, and I'll continue doing that, just as I've been doing. (If I seem a little slow at it, feel free to slap me.) Thanks for your support - hope the extraction wasn't too much of a distraction from your editing... :-) I am a strong believer in the concept that this project is all about the content, and I'm looking forward to contributing wherever I can. Please let me know if I can be of any help. In the meantime, I'm off to school...

Thanks again! Frank |  talk  15:12, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK review
Ohai Thingg. Since you reviewed most of my hooks, do you mind if you can review Garry Roggenburk? It is listed somewhere here. I really hope it's approved. :) Please reply here as I'm watching your talk page. Thanks, RyRy (talk ) 08:04, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and can you review Willis Roberts also? It's listed somewhere here. More baseball biographies. ;) Your help is very much appreciated. Thanks, RyRy (talk ) 12:52, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oo, that must have hurt, or at least have been bleeding, for days... One of my family members had their wisdom tooth pooled out and it was bleeding for days, practically non-stop. Well, no worries. They both become DYKs anyway. Feel better. ;) -- RyRy (talk ) 20:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Happy Independence Day!
As you are a nice Wikipedian, I just wanted to wish you a happy Independence Day! And if you are not an American, then have a happy day and a wonderful weekend anyway! :) Your friend and colleague, --Happy Independence Day!   Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 03:47, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Lip balm vs. ear wax redux
though you might get a laugh out of this - i found a citation ;> Talk:Earwax. – xeno cidic ( talk ) 15:22, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Huggle error
Um, you warned me here not to vandalize in reference to my removal of vandalism here and then you proceeded to re-add the vandalism here. Please be more careful using Huggle. Useight (talk) 16:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh man, I am sorry about that. You just beat me to that revert and I thought that since you are on the whitelist, huggle would not revert and warn you. Apparently it malfunctioned.... My sincere apologies. Thingg &#8853; &#8855;  16:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Perhaps something's up with Huggle, this is the second time in the last few days that I was errantly reverted. Don't sweat it. Useight (talk) 16:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Annesley Abercorn
No hard feelings - this piece started out as a vanity piece written and repeatedly re-edited by the subject (I'm not sure it even meets wikipedia's notability citeria), and if he insists on having an article at all in the first place, then I'm just trying to keep it factual, NPOV, and reflective of existing, verifiable sources.

These things happen! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Politico234 (talk • contribs) 17:22, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Huggle on the loose
Hi, Thingg.

Couldn't help noticing you reverted a string of grammatical corrections I made on 7 July to the article for Ludwig II of Bavaria.

Like you, I'm a proud American. Like you, I'm a proud New Yorker. And like you, I love Wikipedia, although I have to say your contributions far outnumber mine.

Nevertheless, I don't know how you could have deemed my edits unconstructive, and reverted them. As politely as possible, I have to ask: did you read them? I've never been accused of vandalism before (and Huggle corrections are, like it or not, an indirect assertion of vandalism), so forgive my mildly indignant tone. All of the edits to that page today were in the name of clearer grammar and more linear explanation.

I'd be very grateful if you would explain your rationale.

Many thanks.

Shlimozzle (talk) 18:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * My apologies for that. I knew it was a mistake, but apparently I forgot to fix it... (I saw "Mad King Ludwig" and reflexed :/ ) Sorry about that. Thingg &#8853; &#8855;  00:07, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. I appreciate you getting back to me so fast.  Many thanks.  Shlimozzle (talk) 01:07, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

La Guardia (band)
Hi Thingg. I have added more info and references to this article, and removed the prod tag you placed, because I now think that the band's notability has been made clear. Of course you can add it to AfD if you're still not convinced. Though I'm hoping you are! :-) El monty (talk) 14:55, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well done. Great job with the article. My apologies for any inconvenience my PROD caused you. Thingg &#8853; &#8855;  16:12, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I 'd like use Eremia, and only this !
Can you unblock Eremia, I 'd like use this , I need onyle one account , please , help me , write m a message in my page of dscussion ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.128.108.117 (talk) 14:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * In order to create a page, you must create an account on Wikipedia. To do this, click on the "Log-in/Create account" link located at the top-right of the page and follow the instructions. I hope this helps. Regards. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  16:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

IP legal threats have been reported
I noted the IP behaviour here. If he didn't want his name to be known he shouldn't be blurting out for all to see :). I started that convo. I don't care if it's deleted as long as they delete his Commons upload along with it. :). Libs (talk) 20:05, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey thanks for doing that. I kind of forgot about that page.. *blush* Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  20:06, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No prob. The whole history of the *ahem* troll *ahem* will likely be swiped away from the books. Libs (talk) 20:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Hello There!!!

Thank you for letting me know even "hangon" tag keeps the article in the required category.

Regards

Hitrohit2001 (talk) 20:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)Hitrohit2001

header added
Spinacia's shameless references to his company Blackblot in Wikipedia article on Product Marketing needs to be stopped. I have categorized Spinacia as a level 3 vandal. Please advise on how to blacklist Blackblot

(www.blackblot.com), since you seem to be computer savvy. 69.109.174.47 (talk) 00:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC) I don't have access to the code that blacklists references to certain websites, so I'm afraid I can;t help you with that. I think that if we just keep the reference out of the article it will be ok. I didn't realize what that website was at first and that's why I reverted your edit the first time. My apologies for that. I don;t think anyone will re-add the reference, but if they do, you are more than welcome to remove it. Regards. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855; 00:29, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Why are you deleting my updates to Uptown New Orleans
I may be new to this, but I am a local resident of the city (you obviously are not) and was here during and after the storm, and everything I have typed is correct. I suggest you looking at a map of the damage in New Orleans or the many articles on the "Isle of Denial" you can find through Google. The names I have mentioned are well used in the city, and they have a place on Wikipedia, whether your fascist editing opinions think or not. - Previous unsigned comment added by 70.171.74.118 (Talk) at 00:40, 11 July 2008
 * The problem with your edits is they are not written from a neutral point of view in that they portray the "rich people" as uncaring and indifferent to the suffering that others were enduring. While this may be true (I am not sure if it is or not) in order to be included in the article, it must be cited to a reliable sources (preferably more than one) so that others can verify that what is written is accurate. This is true of all statements that are critical or defamatory. If you can't provide a citation for your additions, I'm afraid they can't be included in the article. Hope this answers your question. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  00:46, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Gracias...
...for reverting his edits to my talk page. <font color="#99BADD">APK  like a lollipop  01:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem at all. I was wondering how long it'd take him to get bared and go away... Happy editing! Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  01:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

turkic peoples
why did you help to Jingiby, he is such a racist and vandalist.--85.107.110.87 (talk) 01:16, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem with your edit is it added challengable information that was not cited to a reliable source and removed info that was cited to a reliable source. Also, you did not leave an edit summary to explain why you did this. When you remove info that is cited to a reliable source, you must provide at least one and most often more than one different reliable source(s) to show that the info is false. In other words, the burden of evidence lies on you to prove the cited info is inaccurate. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  01:23, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Product Marketing
Thingg, The article on product marketing complies with Wikipedia standards of notability and references. The references therefore must remain. A process has been initiated to bar and also reveal the identity of the person hiding behind 69.109.174.47. Spinacia (talk) 02:15, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Presentation Layer Developer definition
Hi Thingg, I was surprised to see you tag my article Presentation Layer Developer for deletion. I do admit that this is my first article but can you help me understand why it is inappropriate? Mscafidi (talk) 18:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

UP
Please see my userpage. <font color="4169E1">Schfifty Three  19:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * My replay here

Slim guy briefs
I removed your A7 nomination since it's not a valid candidate for speedy deletion within the narrow confines of A7; it's a product, and products aren't A7-able. It's possible it could be speedied under another criterion, and I imagine it would AFD without a hitch. Matthew Brown (Morven) (T:C) 21:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * hehheh. Sorry about that. Momentary brain-lapse on my part. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  21:31, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

iFlipr
Hi,

The page on iFlipr does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion. According to that page, it does not apply to software itself:

An article about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from questions of verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability; to avoid speedy deletion an article does not have to prove that its subject is notable, just give a reasonable indication of why it might be notable. A7 applies only to articles about web content or articles on people and organizations themselves, not articles on their books, albums, software and so on. Other article types are not eligible for deletion by this criterion. If controversial, as with schools, list the article at Articles for deletion instead.

Anyway, given the large number of people using it already and the huge number of cards, I think its not just important, but rather notable. :)

Joecode (talk) 21:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * So it is. That is strike two for me tonight on that one. :/ Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  23:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

using Huggle
Hi I was simply trying to correct the posting after you asked me to right it (as you had tagged it for delete) SO I was just following your recommendations, and as you have used a bot, I presume you haven't read the corrected ver. Please do, I am sure it is not Vandalism. please do check and let me know http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chitra_Mudgal&action=history regards Shaily. (Shailymudgal (talk) 22:51, 11 July 2008 (UTC))
 * Man, I'm on a roll tonight... Sorry about that. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  23:02, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Zargos TV
Why was my Zargos TV edit reverted? The channel is used for psycological warfare in Iraq? I've seen it myself. Is it because It wasn't cited?

Thanks137.240.136.82 (talk) 15:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. Any defamatory statements must be cited to a reliable source. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  15:21, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi
I'm wondering why you nominated my page for deletion. Okay, not really. I just wanted to thank you for fixing the code on my main page proposal. I very much appreciate it! :) LaraLove|  Talk  05:01, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * heh when I saw your post, I thought it really was someone complaining about that... then I saw your sig. Yeah, no prob. I do really like your design and your idea with the date thing is pretty cool. Good luck with it! Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  05:04, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't really know code that well. I just learn from copying it and sort of playing with it. I can't figure out why the DYK has a line above and below its table unlike the In the news section. If you know, please let me know how to fix it. I'll be adding some more to it tomorrow. The sister project list and such. But yea, hopefully the geo-locate cookie function can be created here. LaraLove|  Talk  05:11, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw that too, but as far as I know, the only way to fix it would be to modify Did you know to make it the correct height. (and I obviously can't do that because it would mess up the current Main Page and I'm not an admin so I can't edit it anyway...) However, if your design is selected (and imo, it's definitely in the top three), there would be no issues with modifying the template to correct this problem. btw, if you really "don't really know code that well," then I have to say I'm very impressed with your design. Very impressed. I know a little about programming (see my userpage), but that's a waaay better Main Page then I'd ever be able to design... I'll look at your design tomorrow and see if I can come up with a way to correct the problem without having to edit the other templates, but right now, I really have to get to bed. It's 1:20am where I live... Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  05:22, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

User page
Thingg, on your user page you list a humorous example of vandalism on Piracy. Did you know that the song pasted there is from the children's show Lazytown? To me, it makes it all the more funny. And how sad it is that I know that useless piece of information? ;) --Figureskatingfan (talk) 05:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * heh. really? I didn't know that. I assumed that it was from somewhere else, but I didn't know where. Kind of makes me wonder if this one is from somewhere else too... Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  13:41, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, first time I had seen that parody in Ackbar. I agree that it's funny, though.  Some vandalism is so well done, it's shame to have to revert it. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 18:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your copy edit work on the Jane Collier pages. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:55, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

The barnstar
Hi. Thanks for my first barnstar. I am honored! I assume your on PSN? Feel free to add 'Chimpanzee' if you like. Would be good to see you on there!<font color="#dc5f02" >ChimpanzeeUK  - User | Talk | Contribs 17:54, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

re: Victoria Jackson-Stanley
I read your comment under the above article's entry on the DYK discussion page. You've indicated that the article is not long enough, but when I go to the history section of the article it indicates that the length is 4000+ bytes long. Am I looking in the wrong place for article length?--..<font color="#3B444B" face="Batavia">BlackThor Talk • <font color="#321414">Contribs 22:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you are counting the wrong thing. (It's easy enough to do) What is counted is the number of characters (including spaces) in the text of the article as it appears when you're not editing it. See Template talk:Did you know for more information. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  22:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be a bother, but I have squeeeeezed as much relevant information out of every source i could find and I think I have passed the length threshold. If so, could you okay the article on the discussion page?  Thanks --..<font color="#3B444B" face="Batavia">BlackThor Talk • <font color="#321414">Contribs 00:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Great job with the article. Hook verified. Looking forward to seeing it on the Main Page! btw, I'm will always do my best to help you if you request it. You're not going to bother me no matter how many times you ask, so always feel free to ask. Regards. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  00:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --..<font color="#3B444B" face="Batavia">BlackThor Talk • <font color="#321414">Contribs 00:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

List of PS3 games
Hi. Thanks for all your work on the list of PS3 games! I'd had enough after the edit I made! I was going to do it if no one had by this evening but thankfully you got there first! Did you use some sort of software to move the columns around or did you do it all manually? Now the same needs to be done to the tables on List of PlayStation Network games so that they match!! <font color="#dc5f02" >ChimpanzeeUK  - User | Talk | Contribs 07:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * "Now the same needs to be done to the tables on List of PlayStation Network games so that they match!!" NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
 * heh. obviously I'm joking. Nah, I did it all manually. (2 1/2 hour edits FTW!!!) It was a pain, but someone had to do it. I'll do the other list as well. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  15:06, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hercules (Amtrak station)
I added in the necessary information for the DYK, would you review it?MY♥IN chile 03:45, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * While you have done great job expanding the article, the ref provided doesn't mention that being the first direct rail-to-ferry connection on the bay. If you can't find a ref for that, you may want to revise your hook.  Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  14:16, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I reworked the hook, what do you say now?MY♥IN chile 20:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's verifiable. :) Hook verified. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  23:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * cool dude, thanks for the help, how bout Precita Eyes is it ready for DYK in and of itself?MY♥IN chile 00:50, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Could you check this out for me?
I was wondering if you could check out the size difference between these two versions of Sun Prairie, Wisconsin? I'd like to submit a DYK for the article, and it seems as it the size has been increased enough for inclusion (last time I wanted to do this, the article hadn't increased enough). From conversations with Art LaPella, I am no longer sure. - Hexhand (talk) 21:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * ok. How I find out how many characters are in an article is copy/paste all the text in the article to MSWord, remove any References/See Also/Further Reading sections, remove the table of contents and pictures and pic captions. remove lists, tables, and other info that is not primarily prose. (basically, any part of the article that is not prose is not counted) Once I do the above, I bring up the stats on the trimmed-down text and the "Characters (with spaces)" is the stat you're looking for. In the case of your article, it had 5211 characters of prose on July 12 (5 days ago) and now has 22106 characters. A 5x expansion would be to 26055 characters. Even though this is not quite a five-fold expansion (it's actually about 4.24x), the promoting admin may give some leniency, especially considering the very large amount of info was added to the article. If you don't understand what I did to arrive at the figures, let me know and I will try again. Regards. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  21:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, that is pretty much what I did, and that was close to the figure I arrived at. I have some more to add to the article this ev ening, which will put it a lot closer to if not over the 5x mark. When I add a DYK from it, do I list it in today's entrants, or when the 5 day began? - Hexhand (talk) 22:59, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If you list it today, (July 18) you should list it under Template talk:Did you know and measure the expansion from what the article looked like in the last revision before five days ago (In this case, the last revision on July 12). If the article is close, but not quite a five-fold expansion, you should note this fact and possibly exactly how much it was expanded. (ie. from xxxx to xxxx characters) Again, while the rules do say 5x expansion, it is not a set-in-stone law and some flexibility is given in certain cases. Also, I've noticed that in cases such as yours where an already sizable article is significantly expanded (ie. a fair amount over 4x), they are more likely to "bend the rules" so to speak. While I can't guarantee this will happen in your case, you really have nothing to lose (and everything to gain :) ) by nominating the article. And even if it doesn't get accepted for DYK, you can still take pride in your work. You've done a fantastic job with that article. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  03:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi - hope you don't mind my nosing in here but I have a couple of comments. First, DYK submissions should be submitted under the day that fivefold expansion began, not under the day of submission. If you do the latter then by the time they get checked and ready for the main page they'll be more like ten days old than five.
 * Secondly, I thought I'd suggest an alternative method of character counting, which is this website . It's faster to load than Word, and I find it more convenient. Up to you though obviously. Happy editing, Olaf Davis | Talk 10:40, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * MY bad on the first part. Sorry about that. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  14:17, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem, just glad I happened to notice it so I could point it out. The DYK rules are, admittedly, somewhat complicated. Olaf Davis | Talk 14:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK review
I have another one. Do you mind of you review Charlie Waitt under July 16? Thanks, <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 03:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  04:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks Thingg. :) I asked you because I will be gone for a few days, and if it wasn't verified, I would never know and I wouldn't be able to fix the problem if there was one in time. What a long edit. :D Thanks again. -- <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 04:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Karl Pilkington
Just a quick note about your revert here: At first, I didn't consider even bothering you with this since we've all occasionally reverted inappropriate edits, inadvertently leaving something far more egregious in place. But this one is really special. Please take a look at what you left in place (diff). I'm not sure what's worse, the BLP violations or the copyright violations. Still, just a friendly heads-up, it happens to the best of us (and nobody else reverted it either). <span style="font-family:lucida sans, console;">user:Everyme 08:20, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Xbox 360
Hey Thiing, I was wondering if you could make us a portal logo similar to the one you made before. Thanks. BW21.-- B lack W atch 21  23:56, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I made a new pic and added it to the portal. Is it ok? Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  15:57, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Question on DYK photo usage
Hi there -- as per your comment on my Box Head Revolution DYK entry, one of the Bots removed the photo I put with the article. Question: what kind of photos can I use to go with those entries, what should I avoid using? I don't want a repeat of that error. Also, if you can, would you please confirm that DYK entry meets the grade? I hope all is well. Cheers! Ecoleetage (talk) 14:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Basically, all images that are non-free cannot be used on the Main Page and, by extension, in DYK. If you are going to use an image for DYK, it has to either be in the public domain or licensed under a free-use license such as the GFDL or one of the Creative Commons licenses. Also, we generally avoid using any images other than free images unless we cannot possible obtain a free equivalent that would adequately provide the same information. (for example, a movie poster or a company logo) The reason the bot removed your pic from the DYK nom page is that non-free content is only allowed in the article space (although in practice, they are often used in article talk pages as well). Hope that answers your question. Your other request is done as well. Regards. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  15:23, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you! That was very, very helpful. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 15:31, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:Portal:Xbox 360
Great. I like it. Thanks. BW21.-- B lack W atch 21  16:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Expansion
Many thanks for your diligence regarding my DYK nomination of List of Bloc Party awards. Just to let you know, minus spaces and reference numbers, I have expanded the prose by 171 characters. Regards, <font face="Century Schoolbook">WilliamH (talk) 16:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ Regards. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  20:51, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Xbox Barnstar

 * Wow! Thanks a lot! I have to admit I never expected to get that barnstar.... I really appreciate it. Regards. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  01:04, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No Problem. You deserve it. --<b style="color:black;">DJS</b><b style="color:navy;">24</b> 01:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Trigger finger
My bad. Just trying to help it not suck and such... KV5  •  Squawk box  •  Fight on!  18:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Revert
When you said here that I don't need to revert, I was restoring speedy deletion tags. Just to let you know. Happy editing,  Spencer T♦C 18:32, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The reason I said that was your edit also removed some content that had been added after the tags were put on the page and before they were removed. I always try to make sure that when I restore tags that someone has removed, I don't mess with any other changes that have been made. I wasn't trying to attack you or anything, I just think that's the best way to do it. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  18:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I understand completely that there was no attack, I wanted to clarify my position...I reverted this edit that removed speedy deletion tags, but then rollback takes along everything else with it. Cheers,  Spencer T♦C 18:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * :D.  Spencer T♦C 19:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Signing out of Huggle now...Have all the reverts you want now. :).  Spencer T♦C 19:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Question
Just checking, is writing things in your own user page up to personal discretion? Provided if it isn't an article page in the first place, right? Why this warning? --Dave1185 (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, you can write pretty much whatever you want in your userspace (obviously except for stuff like personal attacks) However, the page you mentioned was not in the userspace (ie. it didn't begin with "User:" as in "User:Thingg") and thus shouldn't have been made. (it also was an attack on someone, but that's another thing altogether...) Hope that answers your question. Regards. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  19:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, that certainly clear things up, guess I didn't read the log properly. Another thing is, I would appreciate if you can keep discussion on the same page where a query was left for better continuance as I loathe fragmented discussions thus I brought your reply back here. Cheers! --Dave1185 (talk) 19:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * heh. my bad. I usually add the "other half" of conversations to this page the following day, but I haven't done it for a while. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  19:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Your misuse of rollback and unexplained reversions
I am quite concerned by your by your misuse of rollback by using it on my tagging of empty categories for deletion. You should only be using rollback to revert vandalism, and my edits were far from anything that can be considered vandalism. I was tagging empty categories for deletion, per WP:CSD. I am further concerned that you provided no explanation for the revert in your edit summaries or my talk page. My edits are supported by policy, and I will be undoing your edits since they removed my tagging with no explaination. If you were an anonymous IP and I was the registered user, your edits would probably have been considered vandalism. Please do not revert my changes again without some explaination or basis in policy, and leave my tagging for an admin to remove next time if they feel it is not proper (and, I think based on the policy I cited you, my tagging is quite proper and the categories should be deleted). 140.211.8.8 (talk) 20:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * If I may interject here, perhaps it would be helpful to assume good faith in this situation. I make no claim on what Thingg was thinking in these reverts, and perhaps they should not have occurred, but let's keep this in perspective. I would also say that whether or not one or the other of you is an IP or registered user is beside the point. If the edits are valid, they're valid; if they are invalid, they're invalid. Let's figure out which is the case and move the encyclopedia forward. Frank  |  talk  20:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * wow am I sorry about that. God, what was I thinking? My sincere apologies. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  01:34, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Your revert of my edit to Social Engineering (sorry it took 2 months to respond)
Hi, I finally responded. Please see here, I'm just looking for a little more clarification. Thanks. 207.34.229.126 (talk) 18:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not really sure why I reverted that. I can't remember. I probably thought "mumble attack" was some sort of derogatory statement or something. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  21:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Sandbox
What is the "sandbox"? - Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.27.154.210 (Talk) at 01:10, 31 July 2008
 * The sandbox is a page where you can try out different stuff with wikimarkup (the code used to edit Wikipedia) without having to worry about it getting reverted (unless it is obviously vandalism and/or attacks). Hope that answers your question. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  01:18, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Huggle/Edit summary
I am just wondering how you are using edit summary while using huggle.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 01:47, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You can either click on the down-arrow located directly to the right of the red "revert without warning" button and select the bottom option in the drop-down menu or you can press "Y" to bring up the dialog box. Also, it will remember what you've typed during the current session, which is useful for common messages like "rm redlink" or "unsourced." Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  01:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

US Military
I dont know what the rest of you guyd are seeing? But when I look at the pages od the USMC vs. the page of the USN. The USMC was created on 10 November 1775 and the USN was created on October 13, 1775. That tells me that Sp8503 navy is older. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.6.84.111 (talk) 09:27, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm.. you may be right, The reason I reverted you is that a lot, and I mean a lot or vandals simply change dates randomly with no explanation and I thought you were doing the same. My apologies for the trouble. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  13:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Hayek's Brother: Reversion
Please drop a note on my ip's talk page to explain the reversion - thanks! 66.108.211.145 (talk) 04:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I reverted the edit because it added challengable information that was not cited to a reliable source and was also probably not relevant to the subject of the article. Cheers. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  12:15, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually I added it because i expected to find it on her page (someone was asking me about this person called Sami Hayek and whether they were related), anyway i checked Wiki and it was missing - i checked other celebs and their pages mention their siblings, even if it's just a one liner or so. You are right i forgot to add citation, I can site plenty of reliable (non blog) references - what do you think? 66.108.211.145 (talk) 02:04, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If you can provide a reference, I say go for it. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  02:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your feedback. Looks like Hondo77 beat me too it (and did a better job). Anyway it's great to deal with reasonable people like you, sometimes it can get so dispiriting trying to enter stuff on Wiki :( - cheers!. 66.108.211.145 (talk) 18:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Jablonski
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Thank you x 2
Thanks for reverting vandalism on my talk page, twice. ... disco spinster   talk  03:32, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * hey no problem. Since you've been beating me all night, I suppose it's only fair... >:-] Happy editing! Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  03:34, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Edits
There is a naming convention for Hungarian and Slovak names after a long discussion. See it at WP:HU-SK. Would you please revert your own edit? Squash Racket (talk) 03:39, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I was only talking about the article Thurzo. I see that your edits are made in good faith. Squash Racket (talk) 03:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ I removed all the ones I could find. (I'm using Huggle so I may have missed a few) My apologies as I was unaware of that discussion. Regards. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  03:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

2EC
If you want to express your concerns, please do so here. I do so because I googled it a few times and nothing shows up. Thanks, HeLLboy2HeLL (talk) 04:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * For some reason I thought radio stations were inherently notable. :/ Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  04:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know but Search Engines work right? HeLLboy2HeLL (talk) 04:20, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * heh no, I meant inherently notable in the way cities and towns are. apparently they aren't. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  04:22, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Can you give me a policy that confirms your "Inherently notable"? HeLLboy2HeLL (talk) 04:26, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying that radio stations are inherently notable. I'm saying I thought they were, but apparently, based on the Wikiproject page, they aren't. (as far as I know, there's no official policy on the notability of radio stations) So basically, your prod was correct and I was incorrect in removing it. If you want to replace it, go right ahead. My apologies for the trouble. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  04:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry too. Listen, I'm currently on Editor Review. Could you posiibly review me? The link is at my userpage. Thanks in advance! HeLLboy2HeLL (talk) 04:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ you have been reviewed. (evil laughter) heh. Sorry it took so long, my internet's been acting up... Cheers and good night. (well, at least I'm going to bed. It's 1:40 AM where I live :O ) Regards. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  05:41, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of 2EC
An article that you have been involved in editing, 2EC, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/2EC. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Eastmain (talk) 04:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

A bit unwelcoming
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Truly puzzled by what would be your rational for these recent reverts. bypass disambiguation page to actual related article used to redirect to the correct person of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is her proper title; shorten up the needless trivia on her relations add wikilink to the subject described add wikilink to the subject described While edits without summaries and from IP addresses aren't that well-loved here and considered against proper etiquette, etiquette alone isn't grounds for reverts that are in good faith. Also in violation of the general guideline of friendliness to new editors. Truly hope that you'll take the few seconds it takes to check up on the edits you're reverting from now on. Hope it sincerely sinks in that isn't being helpful to the content nor the new contributors of English Wikipedia. Newby88 (talk) 18:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah. ummm.... I didn't realize what that guy was doing at first (I thought he was just randomly messing up pages) and when I did, I went back and removed the damage I could find. Apparently, I missed some. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'll go back and look some more... Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  01:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Don't know if you got that I was the same person that did the intial edits before creating this User account today. Guess she should have been clearer. Guess that what one has still check edits even when doing so many edits. Probably the reason why I'll never be a true Wikipedian and stay casual. Appreciate it and guess over dealing with all the vandalism and junk going on this site, just need those reminders to oneself that newbies are not all bad. Just re-read my 1st and reads so awfully formal or what? Like this is the IRS or something horrible like that. Well, stay loose. Newby88 (talk) 02:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * heh, I thought you were the same person, but since I wasn't sure, I decided not to risk embarrassing myself any more than I already have with my bone-headed reverting.... ;) My apologies for the trouble and thanks for the work you did. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  02:29, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandal 207.145.232.234
You reverted the vandalism of 207.145.232.234 in several pages. He also vandalized Karachi page. Please report this user. Ata Fida Aziz (talk) 03:55, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Huggle bug
Hey there thingg :) Long time no speak. Anyway this is regarding the section you created on the huggle feedback page which can now bee seen here I was just wondering if this is still a problem in the most recent version? 0.7.12. If you could reply on my talk page that would be a great help. Thanks in advance.  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 09:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No, it's not. Actually, I think I just wasn't giving it enough time to do it's thing, but I'm not sure. In any case, it's not a problem now. :) Thanks for asking though. Regards. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  22:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok thanks :)  ·Add§hore·  <sup style="color:blue;">T alk /<sub style="color:blue;">C ont 07:58, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

last.fm
http://www.last.fm/music/Hayley+Williams/+wiki lists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayley_Williams as a source, so it's not a copyvio. It's a useless circular recycling of text, but it's not a copyvio. :) --Geniac (talk) 13:31, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey thanks for the heads-up. I'll try to pay attention better in the future. Was this related to a CSD tagging? or did I just remove some content? (I can't seem to find the edit you are referring to) I'd just like to know so I won't do it again. Thanks. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  16:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Diff. Cheers. --Geniac (talk) 16:38, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK review
Hey there Thingg. Could you review Randy Ruiz at the bottom of the August 1st section at T:TDYK? Thanks! Please reply here, rather than on my talk page. -- <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">Public  (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 00:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ heh. At first I thought it said "got hit" (as in *pow*, take your base variety) in 24 consecutive games. Now that would have been an accomplishment, especially if he kept playing after about the 14th game.... Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  00:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, heh. :P That would have been a great hook! Oh well. Thanks Thingg, and keep up the good work. Oh, by the way, if you ever do run for adminship, I'll be very happy to nominate you. I'll make sure my nomination makes others know you'll be a fine administrator. :-) Do you have any plans for that anytime soon? -- <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">Public  (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 00:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ummmm.... well. I've thought about it some (it's been over three months since my first one), but I don't know if I really want to go through it again. I still make some bad reverts and CSD tagging and other than vandal fighting/NP patrol and I don't do pretty much anything else other than DYK reviews and patrolling a few pages in my watchlist. Do you think I could pass one? Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  00:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I can't tell you right away, i would have to look at your contributions, acrhives, ect., just to really look at you. But bad reverts and inaccurate CSD tags is a problem. Participating at WP:DYK will show you can update DYK since you'll have access to T:DYK. IMO, you won't pass now, but I'm sure you'll do good in the future. Just continue what your doing, and add more article writing in your contributions, and when I think your ready, I'll be sure to let you know in the future. -- <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">RyRy <font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">Public  (<font color="navy" face="Times New Roman">talk ) 00:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I'd have to agree with that. Well, thanks for the offer. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  01:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Heights of Buildings Act of 1910 DYK
That absolutely works! Thanks, great suggestion. You may fix it. ;) Is it ready for DYK?-- S R X   00:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sure it will be ok as it satisfies all the criteria, but I don't think it would be a good idea for me to verify my own hook. ;) We can probably just leave it until "August 5" gets down to the bottom and if anyone raises some objections, we can deal with him fix them then. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  01:14, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh okay, thank you very much, I'm hoping for the best.-- S R X   01:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

The Rose Rent DYK
No problem. Thanks for replying and verifying so fast. Thanks. --Captain-tucker (talk) 01:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

St. Andrew's Episcopal Church
Yeah, I was thinking that too when I uploaded it. I took the picture, and I was impressed with the detail and color. I do have the original (as well as two others with slightly different composition) from my camera saved, unedited, if you want me to email it to you for work on it (I suppose you'd have to replicate my discreet cropping, but that shouldn't be hard). Noise is often the biggest problem I face, the reason I've never dared nominate any of my own work ... I suppose I could fix it by layering the sky out and editing it separately (or just using the overlay blend mode, but that always takes more time. I did that here, though, and I'm rather pleased with how that turned out) Let me know if you want the original (and let me know how you got rid of the artifacting ... I've never found a method that works but then again I haven't tried too hard, I think). Daniel Case (talk) 02:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What I meant when I asked that is do you have a form of this picture that isn't in the jpg format or a way to get one? I think the compression may be what's causing the articfacting but I'm not sure. I'm not too incredibly familiar with the FPC process, so I'm not sure what would have to be done (if anything) to improve the pic. If it's not too much trouble, I'd would like to have the original pic so I can take a shot at removing the artifacting. Thanks. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  02:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * My camera's output format is .jpg, actually. Still, I will send you an email so you can email me your address back, right after I finish this post.


 * I am quite familiar with FPC ... believe me, those people are a tough crowd to please, tougher than the Commons FPC editors are. But they can do a lot to fix an image up if they like it. If you're behind it, and willing to make the nomination on a fixed-up version, let's do it. Daniel Case (talk) 02:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * emailed. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  02:30, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There was a fourth original. Five megs coming your way. Daniel Case (talk) 02:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, just checked my "recent files" list in Photoshop. 101_1529.JPG was the one I worked on. Let me know how it goes. Daniel Case (talk) 02:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll see what I can do... Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  02:42, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I was able to improve it quite a bit, but I'm not sure if it's good enough. I uploaded it to Image:Image-St Andrew's Episcopal Church, Brewster, NY test.png. (yeah I know, laugh at me for the extra "image"....) Wat do you think? Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  16:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * That one got rid of the artifacts and the noise, but needs to be brightened up a bit (as opposed to mine, the trees are too dark. I might download it and see what I can do. Daniel Case (talk) 17:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Why was my page deleted?
Hi Thingg. Would you mind if I would copy you subpage: "Why was my page deleted"? Thanks, H2H (talk) 08:33, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry I mean this. Thanks, H2H (talk) 08:34, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * heh. I don't mind at all. Go right ahead! Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  18:48, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Breuner Marsh
I believe I have addressed your concerns when it comes to this article's DYK would you review it please?MY♥IN chile 17:58, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ Great job. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  01:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

List of PlayStation 3 games
Hi, I just thought I'd let you know that there is a discussion going on on Talk:List of PlayStation 3 games about how to show trophies for unreleased games. As you've made a lot of contributions to the article (including our combined efforts to tidy up the "List of..." articles a few months ago) I'd like to hear your opinions when you have a moment. Please stop by when you can? Cheers, <font color="#dc5f02" >ChimpanzeeUK  - User | Talk | Contribs 22:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

In the wake
Hey, thanks for clarifying the wake (ceremony) reference in my DYK hook for Goodbye, 20th Century!. I just added a new DYK for August 12 on Rogers Orchards, if you are interested in checking that out for verification (two hooks, actually -- which one is best?). If those two DYKs go through, that will be #48 and #49 for me...not bad, I think, since I only got into DYK in May. Hope all is well with you.
 * my reply
 * Thanks for the barnstar, that was highly appreciated. Ecoleetage (talk) 14:52, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK
Hi, you noted that my DYK nom for Brunei car plates do not have a reliable source. Any suggestions as to what else I could change the DYK to? --Novelty (talk) 04:02, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * How about ...that all standard vehicle registration plates in Brunei begin with "B" or "K"? I'm not sure about the punctuation at the end ("?), but it is verified by the website. What do you think? Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  04:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I changed it to something else that's similar to your suggestion. Do you think that's OK now?  --Novelty (talk) 08:16, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's better than mine. Hook verified. Great job with the article btw. Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  15:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for all the help with this DYK! It's on the front page of Wikipedia now! --Novelty (talk) 16:56, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK, part the second
I've responded to your questions - I hope I've covered everything. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 04:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for the answers. I verified the hooks. (btw, sorry it took me so long, the second hook gave me a little trouble) Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  05:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It's OK. Writing the Bispham Medal article gave me a great deal of trouble as well; I only have one source to go on (a 1960 opera encyclopedia), and found the list of composers who won it coming in by dribs and drabs from various sources - Franchetti's listed in a lawsuit summary, of all things, while a couple of others came up in another source.  There's remarkably little information on the subject online (which is one reason I wrote the article :))


 * Good work on your dedication - I don't think I'd have the patience for it. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 20:49, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * By the bye, just a warning - I'm going to try and write up both Preston Ware Orem and Thurlow Lieurance in an attempt to make it a sextuple nom - both of them were Indianists as well. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 20:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha, good luck. I just did the same with my nom. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 20:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

WP:DYK
About Zoo Melaka's DYK suggestion, is it 1500 now? H2H (talk) 11:00, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep. It's good now. btw, the way to find out the length of an article is to copy/paste the prose portion of the article (ie. the text minus infoboxes, lists, pic captions, tables, "see also" sections, etc.) to a word processor (such as Microsoft Word) and click on the stats of the text. The stat you're looking for is the "characters (with spaces)". DYK nominated articles have to have at least 1500 characters (including spaces) to qualify (or have the prose portion expanded 5x). Thingg <sup style="color:#33ff00;">&#8853; <sup style="color:#ff0033;">&#8855;  15:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for info;its my first DYK proposal, H2H (talk) 01:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK
"I have to admit I laughed when I saw this edit summary to an addition of ~12000 bytes" :) The reason why - I consider this a medium update. :) I tend to sit in a box for hours at length before clicking submit. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:27, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I expanded it here into a quintuple nom. I have not found enough information on Arthur Murphy's work to create a page and expand it into a six nom. However, I'm looking. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 19:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I founded enough to make An Essay on the Life and Genius of Samuel Johnson. Six part nom. It feels maddening. However, there are more sources that I have to add to each of these pages to expand. These are all the major works, besides what Johnson wrote and what Boswell wrote earlier, so there is no more that can be added page wise. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 20:45, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry. I forgot to add the first postmortem biographical work on Johnson (the first full length work was by Hawkins, but the first short length general overview was by Thomas Tyers, called A Biographical Sketch of Dr Samuel Johnson. Biographies on Johnson are a subset of Johnson studies overall because everyone and their mother decided to write at least a little something on his life. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 00:39, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Hans across the water
Hey there! I looked at the article -- it needs copy editing, but it doesn't violate WP:NPOV. That guy has been publicly accused of war crimes - it is a referenced fact. The problem I have is the DYK hook, which needs to be rewritten to either clearly state the accusation or make no mention of it. As it stands, it is trying to have it both ways. I might recommend asking EotW to consider a new hook. But that's just my opinion. Thanks for thinking of me! Ecoleetage (talk) 18:31, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, glad to see this one went for DYK today. Thanks, again! Ecoleetage (talk) 21:19, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Libya
Libia? I know I'm not the best speller on Wikipedia but that's just embarassing (I wrote it). Thanks for fixing! - House of Scandal (talk) 15:31, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Charles Sanford Skilton
Don't know if it means much at this stage, but I thought you might be interested to know that I found another source, which I'd completely forgotten I have, that finally lists Skilton as having won the Bispham Medal for Kalopin. A 1980s-era biographical dictionary of American composers I picked up at a used bookstore, of all things. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 16:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No, no - I'm grateful for the work you put in confirming it. I'm kicking myself because all of that work could have been avoided - the damn thing's staring me in the face from the bookshelf by the computer.  Worst part is that I found it while I was in college, and didn't have the money for it then.  So what did I do?  I waited a year and a half, went back to the same bookstore, found the same book, and bought it.  And then promptly forget to use it for anything.  Grrrrr. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 23:17, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks - it's what comes of having a lot of time on my hands and comparatively little to do around the house. :) It's certainly a personal record, that's fer dang sure. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 23:18, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * At least someone has the patience to do it. I never did.  Sometimes I'm surprised I have the patience to properly format an article. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 23:23, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK Questions
Just curious about a couple DYK's that you verified after I made a comment, perhaps I am being to strict in my interpretation of the rules. I just started looking at the DYK nominations so some advice would be helpful. With respect to Hurricane Gilma, I just don't see how the reference file which does not provide any information on what the data is can verify the hook. How is anyone who looks at this reference supposed to know what these number mean, since there is no heading or explanation of the numbers? And with regard to Nicolaas Wilhelmus Posthumus the hook specified that the institute was created to avoid destruction of socialist history documents by Nazi Germany. The reference article was a bit more vague saying that it was created In view of the menace of fascism and barbarism in Germany and other European countries. and the hook says it was to save socialist history document and what I could see in the referevnce said that the institute was created to save documents relevant to economic history. Am I being too strict in my interpretation of the rules. It would seem that the reference in the article should clearly and specifically support the hook. I would appreciate any advice regarding DYK verification. --Captain-tucker (talk) 02:34, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

o hai, i can haz knowlegge?
hey man, if you have some spare time and feel like wrapping your head around one of those "why the hell can't wiki do this properly" issues, see http://pinataisland.info/viva/User_talk:Xenocidic#Tab_links_for_testing. appreciate it! – xeno  ( talk ) 16:22, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
 * i think I got a workaround sorted, but feel free to sign up there anyways, I might pick your brain in the future. =) – xeno  ( talk ) 17:28, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. I did end up just trying out the full url method, but it ended up slowing the server to a crawl because of too many template calls and if statements to make sure the "current page" was bolded in the navbox. It's not a big deal, it just means the user will have to click the appropriate tab whenever they surf to a certain page. thanks anyways =) – xeno  ( talk ) 20:25, 22 August 2008 (UTC)


 * here's another stumper for you. bear in mind that this issue isn't a priority whatsoever, but kudos if you can figure it out. see Template:UX. I'm trying to make it so that the default action of this template when subst'ed is to subst the content at User:Xenocidic/UBX/, passing it any additional parameters. However I also want to be able to add an argument "t=yes" and not subst and in that case it simply transcludes the content. Feel free to do any testing on User:Xenowiki, and you can see my prior attempts =) again, no real huge rush for this, it's just something that would be nice to have. this isn't for WP, i'll be deleting Template:UX eventually. once I get it sorted or decide it's impossible. – xeno  ( talk ) 17:59, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually I think this is impossible to do, because any if statements for the subst version needs to be substed but if statements for the transclude can't be substed. Never mind =) – xeno  ( talk ) 18:29, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for trying, mate. In case you're interested, I worked around it by making another subpage that simply accepts the parameters and outputs the transclusion code. So it still needs to be subst'ed, but it's faster to type then typing out the whole transclusion code . –  xeno  ( talk ) 19:52, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not allowed to fill up template space in that PII wiki, so I've got most of my templates in my userspace at /UX/ – xeno  ( talk ) 20:02, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Over 50 and feeling nifty
Hey, I passed the 50 DYK mark today...passed the 51 mark, too (a 2-for-1 day)! I just wanted to take a moment to thank you for your support and friendship in my DYK endeavours -- it has meant a lot! Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 22:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK question
Hi, you suggested some changes to the Clara Fisher article at T:TDYK. I made some changes and responded but you never answered. Is every thing OK with that article now? Thank you - Epousesquecido (talk) 04:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for getting back to me and for all the work you do at DYK. - Epousesquecido (talk) 16:11, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Xbox-live-logo.png)
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Re:Xbox Live logo
My apologies, I was kinda on a editing roll and didn't even realize there was a xbox live logo that you uploaded until I went on the Xbox live page. BW21.-- B lack W atch 21  13:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

ORB Vandalism
I was wondering Thingg, if you can watch this article: ORB (Venture Bros. episode)

A Man In Black keeps editing out parts of it and we have to keep restoring them. This is not the only article he is regularly editing and people keep restoring. Can you look into it and see if you can get this guy to stop? Thanks. -<b style="background:Black;color:#008000">BigGator</b><b style="background:#008000;color:black">5</b> 07:37, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Input, please
Hello again! Sorry to bother, but can you please review the August 28 DYK entry for Czesława Kwoka? It appears someone is trying to deny the entry based on "unwritten rules" that do not appear to be part of the official DYK policy. If the entry passes, as per the DYK rules, can you please verify that? Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 18:34, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * If the official rules specifically do not state as much, I see no reason why this entry should not be confirmed. Why have official rules if we don't play by them? Ecoleetage (talk) 18:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * PS The rules clearly state: "Articles should have a minimum of 1,500 characters (around 1.5 kilobytes) in main body prose (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables)." The official rules say nothing about quote boxes. The "unwritten" rules are not policy.  I would appreciate if you could verify the entry based on the policy.  Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 18:53, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The nomination, as is, meets the criteria as per the official rules. Please let me know if you can check it. Thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 18:56, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * PPS Actually, someone got there first with the green checky-thing. But thanks, again, for listening.  I hope the day is a good one for you! Ecoleetage (talk) 19:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * PPPS To answer your earlier comment -- yes, an RfA is coming, either later Sunday night or Monday. :-) Ecoleetage (talk) 22:33, 31 August 2008 (UTC)