User talk:Yoninah/Archive 29

Retired
Yoninah, I'm sorry to say that as of today I would retire from Wikipedia. If you have some time, you could check my DYK backlogs at talkpage. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 04:17, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * You might delete the backlog in my talkpage if the issues has been resolved. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael (marhata) 04:21, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
 * OK. Best of luck! Yoninah (talk) 16:12, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

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DYK for Daisy Yen Wu
—valereee (talk) 00:02, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Ronnie L. Podolefsky
I don't know if you think this one has something of interest for DYK, but I thought I'd alert you. If you are busy, no worries. I just took it live. SusunW (talk) 19:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Christmas DYK
Hi, we are within six weeks of Christmas, so I think we can start collecting special occasion hooks. I noticed Hallelujah (Carrie Underwood song), if you want to nominate it. If not, I could but this is not close to my typical subject matter (It does need a little expansion to be eligible which shouldn't be too difficult.) MB 22:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * And what would it have to do with Christmas? ... other than the wish for sales? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, it's a song on a Christmas album, so I assume it is a Christmas song. MB 05:12, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I guess Christmas just means gift-giving for you ;) - Yoninah, I prepared one potentially for Christmas mentioning Psalm 148, - could you please do the Hebrew text. If we find more it has even DYK potential. I have Beethoven on my mind (16 December) and Christmas, and have no spare time for a cinematographer, - any idea there? Imho the sheer length of family ownership of a paper is much more boring than links to two fascinating films readers may NOT know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:04, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Florence Lewis (Mrs. Sidney)
I am pulling my hair out. Trying to work through a bunch of activists that were involved in the poll tax movement. One of them is clearly notable, but I'm having trouble pinning down her dates.,,,. Her husband owned a furniture business in Miami and she was very involved with the National Council of Jewish Women. I know she was still living in Miami in 1980, but after that? Wondering if you have any leads on sources that could help. SusunW (talk) 23:33, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * what dates specifically do you want? You have access to Newspapers.com and FamilySearch. What more can I provide? Yoninah (talk) 23:44, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Just trying to figure out when she was born and if she is dead. I thought there might be Jewish archives that would be helpful since she was on the national board. I cannot find anything in FamilySearch at all that would help clarify who she was initially, i.e. what is her maiden name? It's so weird, because we know where she went to school, and a lot about her life but beginning and ending are a big zero. SusunW (talk) 23:49, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Here her maiden name is Axelrod and here is the geni.com page for her. Yoninah (talk) 23:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much. Sorry, had to be away for several hours. I truly appreciate it. That cracks it open. SusunW (talk) 05:15, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I am amazed at how much I've uncovered. It is vital to knowing someone's name to tell their story. I strongly suspect her husband changed his name from Levy to Lewis, but can't prove that, so I am not putting it in. Cannot thank you enough for your help. It was invaluable. SusunW (talk) 17:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't know if there is anything here for a DYK or not, but she's done. Florence Lewis (activist). Again, thank you. It would not have been possible without your help. SusunW (talk) 20:24, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Sailor's Luck
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

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DYK re-opening
I would like to ask you to re-open Template:Did you know nominations/Three Warfares. I was not active on Wikipedia for last 4 days and this was my first DYK so I was not aware that it could be rejected.

For alternative hook, I would suggest:  ... that "three warfares" is a Chinese Communist Party doctrine which involves using public opinion (or media), psychology and legal means for warfare?

ArvindPalaskar (talk) 14:08, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
 * sure, I'll do that. Yoninah (talk) 14:15, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

DYK Response
Hello, am just inquiring to let you know I received your message and am super help to receive any help you have to offer for my Mandakini River nomination. Please do as you wish. I have left a similar message at the nomination page. Thanks again! FiertlA (talk) 05:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)FiertlA
 * Hello! I'm just letting you know that I've replied over on my talk page to your comment. As I said there, I am super happy with your alternate hook though I am unsure of how to advance it. If you could help with this it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for checkin in. FiertlA (talk) 06:28, 2 December 2020 (UTC)FiertlA

DYK
Hi Yoninah, I was wondering what to do about my DYK nomination Template:Did you know nominations/Subtle is the Lord. I was going to take a break from Wiki for a while and decided to withdraw my nominations in order to avoid wasting anyone's time. I wanted to resubmit this after improving to GA status so that, hopefully, there would be something more catchy to say about it. But now I am not sure if I can create a second nomination, even though it really doesn't say it's against the rules anywhere, it also doesn't give the option. I was wondering if you happen to know what I could do or what the rules on that might be. Thanks! Footlessmouse (talk) 20:51, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Frankly, I don't understand what you're doing. You have a long and well-referenced article here. If you don't like the hook angle, ask on the template for other suggestions. As long as a template hasn't been closed, you can continue the nomination. After it's closed, and the article moves to GA status, you would renominate it under a similar name, like Template:Did you know nominations/Subtle is the Lord 2. Meanwhile, I'll remove the withdrawal icon and wait for you to continue with this. Best, Yoninah (talk) 21:39, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * That would be great, thank you so much! I will ask on there for other suggestions and continue reading to see if I find more on my own. I am sorry for wasting any of your time, I really appreciate the help! Footlessmouse (talk) 21:41, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Leda Valladares
Best Wishes,  Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 00:02, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

December with Women in Red
--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:41, 26 November 2020 (UTC) via MassMessaging

Mary Fowkes
Hi there, I am looking for someone to help me with an accelerated review of Mary Fowkes at WP:DYK, and perhaps make the case for an accelerated push to the the WP:DYK. I missed this one in time for WP:ITNRD and hence want to work on sending this to homepage on a priority. Let me know if you might have some cycles. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 02:03, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Jane Withers
—valereee (talk) 00:01, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry
I was offline last night and didn't see your question on Sarah Wilkerson Freeman, but I see that you found more information about her personal life. Yay! and thank you. I thought Wilkerson-Freeman was more common, but as I did not create it, I just made sure there was a redirect. SusunW (talk) 16:27, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Ruth Williams
Saw the COI tag you posted on Ruth Williams. What should I do to help resolve the issue? I have references for all the sources. I have asked for help from the WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors to review the article. Happy to have someone else review the whole article and make any changes they think are warranted. I can try to ask other editors that are well respected to review and revise. Any advice you can provide on how best to resolve would be greatly appreciated. But maybe the best thing I can do is nothing. Just not sure how best to proceed. Remember (talk) 17:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * you need to come clean on whether you have a COI with this subject. I think you place a notice on the article talk page, but you can read up on it more at WP:COI. Yoninah (talk) 17:48, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. Anything else you suggest? Remember (talk) 17:54, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you, but I'm not familiar enough with COI to know how to proceed. Maybe you should connect with, who is a pretty knowledgeable administrator. Yoninah (talk) 17:57, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Will do! Thank you! Best regards, Remember (talk) 18:00, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Margaret Miller Brown
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Small edit to your userpage
Hi, I found that your DYK icon list clashed with your Babel infobox on your user-page. So I changed the top parameter from 70 to 10. See the changes made here. Hope you did not mind the change. — Amkgp 💬  10:36, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Barbara L. Kelly
Hello User:Yoninah, you've removed the date of birth of Barbara L. Kelly, an article I have started, because you think that every unsourced information must be deleted. While I understand this approach in principle, it is highly exaggerated to do it here. First of all, I explained in the discussion about the relevant DYK nomination that I received the birth-date from the subject of the article directly. I did not invent it. Secondly, take an arbitrary look around Wikipedia biographies, and you will notice that a very large number, if not the majority, have unsourced dates of birth. If the (bad) overall quality of an article suggests that the information provided should be doubted, then I would understand your action. In this case, you can just trust an experienced WP editor and not be overly critical when there is absolutely no reason. Give it a try and don't be unnecessarily critical. Please.

Further, I took the liberty of looking at a few articles YOU created, and immediately came across a number of articles with unsourced dates of birth. I only mention selectively Nathan Adadi, Ben Zion Abba Shaul, Chaim Yehuda Leib Auerbach, Nota Schiller, Eliezer Berland, ... It seems like you are expecting standards from others that you don't apply to yourself. Therefore, I kindly ask you to revert the deletion of the date of birth in this article or not to intervene further when I do it. Thanks. – Aklein62 (talk) 20:28, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your note. I was only reviewing your article by DYK standards, and we do not post unsourced information on the main page. (If we do, we hear from the people at WP:ERRORS.) The articles you cited that I worked on were not nominated for DYK. Go ahead and restore what you want, but be aware of WP:PSCOI. Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:39, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Yoninah I've consulted WP:PSCOI and don't see a problem. I have started a series of biographical articles on Irish musicologists, and this is just one of them (the fifth, in fact). I also see the rule "Article subjects require significant coverage in independent reliable sources" as fulfilled even if the date of birth is not from an external source. – Aklein62 (talk) 20:49, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Sara Bullard DYK potential
Hi Yoninah. I recently started an article on writer and sociological researcher Sara Bullard. She is the founding director of Teaching Tolerance (which likely independently meets WP:GNG) and authored 2 widely reviewed books. Not sure if there is a hook here or not but thought there may be DYK potential...no worries if not! TJMSmith (talk) 16:44, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks for letting me know. I'll take a look at it tomorrow. Yoninah (talk) 21:43, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi again. I did some editing to fix up the page and prepare it for DYK. But you didn't give me enough notice! The article was moved to mainspace on November 23, which means it had to be nominated within 7 days, by November 30. Next time, please give me more notice. Yoninah (talk) 21:48, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I mistakenly thought it was a 2 week window. My apologies! Nonetheless, I appreciate your edits and always enjoy seeing your DYKs on the main page. TJMSmith (talk) 22:02, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Beethoven
Your comment on DYK is in the middle of one by Gatoclass, - I can't reply there until fixed. Not sure I understand the question. I expect a Google Doodle (they had one for "only" 145 years, the 17th), so I expect people to be aware. Of course each hook I write will mention Beethoven, - my question was if more than one hook per editor might be allowed on such a special occasion. It seems no question anymore, with two sets. Put one in the last on the 16th, and one each in the two on the 17th, and all could be set without exception. I am sorry I even asked. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * My question is, if Gustav Classens is the conductor of the Beethoven Orchestra Bonn, and the hook is based on that fact, well and good. But if the hook just says that Classens directed some work with staging by so-and-so, the connection with Beethoven will be unclear. If you were nominating a whole group of articles specifically about Beethoven symphonies and Beethoven festivals, it would make a much stronger case for a full set than just a bunch of articles about loosely-connected people. Yoninah (talk) 21:30, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I planned as few as possible, to avoid monopoly. In the beginning of the year, I had plans to make four compositions a GA, - didn't work. I'm doing to much small stuff. Don't know why you ask about Classens who is already nominated, yes with the orchestra. I didn't say I was making a full set, only that he'd deserve it. (I said so to justify 3 for me alone, but - as explained - that's not even necessary. I'm sorry I asked.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , it's okay if you nominate 3 articles in a special set; we do that all the time for sports days where we have one or two editors who are churning out the articles. I was just continuing the line of questioning as to why we need to devote a whole set to Beethoven on December 17. Other editors were pointing out that this should have been discussed months earlier so perhaps other editors would also contribute articles. You don't have to apologize for anything, but you should be aware that your focus is very narrow on the music articles themselves and not on the larger picture of how DYK works. BTW it would be great if we had a lead picture of Beethoven himself. Yoninah (talk) 21:43, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Kind of you to say, but I'm not sure others would agree. Sorry, no, I don't want an exception. Every now and then I'm disenchanted with DYK. I was prompted to improve the article of Hella Brock for ITN, - such things can't wait, and get much more attention (13k in 2 days, and more to come for today). I proposed a pic of Beethoven at the beginning of the year (because the plan was to celebrate all year) which wasn't taken. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ps: I thought about it and am in the process of expanding the cello sonata. It will be tough to do *5 as 1,7+ when I started, but Beethoven and the piece deserve it. Will keep you posted. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:14, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * article is at 4k+ now, feeling good about that ;) - also about 15k+ views for Hella Brock, - now Jutta Lampe on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:14, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Two more women pictured today, and I'd like to see one more, the artist now in prep 6. I'd give up "my" children's songmaker in the same set if we can't have both (but why not?). For her, it's a memorial, for him, it's kind of promotional.
 * well, a different editor put in the children's songmaker, and I do think it's a very colorful image, compared to the rather dark Indian artist. I'll move her to a later set. Yoninah (talk) 14:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that's the best solution! - Hebrew for Psalm 148? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I expanded Psalm 148. Leaving the Musical Settings to you. Can we get it to a 5x expansion? Yoninah (talk) 00:14, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I hope so, but after Beethoven ;) - I found a book that will hopefully help to get the sonata above the 5* line. I don't like pleading for exceptions ;) As we don't know for sure when the guy was born, we could spread things over 5 sets, 2 on 16 (the likely birthday), 2 on 17 (the baptism day, and one on 18 when for some in the wold, it's still 17. I hope Aza24 will produce another pictured one. - With the book, I could make some more, but will only when asked. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , we need only 60 more characters to get Psalm 148 to a 5x expansion. Yoninah (talk) 18:49, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Great, I hoped so, I just had Advent stuff also, and that is for Christmas or anytime, - it's #3 in my to-do-line ;) - Would you just want it in a double hook, or say something special about the psalm? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:55, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , a double hook is fine. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:57, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK question
Hi Yoninah, given the current surge in ransomware attacks on schools and hospitals, I wonder if you might want to consider fast-tracking this approved DYK: Ryuk (ransomware)? Just a thought.  JGHowes   talk  17:28, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * sure, I was going to promote it but the set already had a hook with a lot of numbers. I'll find a place for it now. Yoninah (talk) 18:33, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , In Template:Did you know nominations/Majestic Radios nominator has proposed a new hook — Amkgp 💬  19:14, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Sandister Tei
I see you've changed "user group" to "users' group" in the article, but you haven't updated the DYK hook to match. Editing is closed now since it's in prep and I can't correct it myself, so please could you correct the hook? And thank you for all your help and hard work on DYK this year. You've been a hero. Storye book (talk) 17:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I did change the hook. I just linked Ghana instead of users' group. Yoninah (talk) 17:09, 6 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Actually, I do sleep, but I spend too many waking hours at DYK! Yoninah (talk) 17:10, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hehe! Storye book (talk) 17:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

I support the barnstar! However, can you please take another look at prep 3. We had many New York City buildings, and Jutta Lampe was a legendary actress, - sources use the word, critics remember single moments. If it wasn't for the image, we would take a different hook - then please return it to the noms. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:08, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * the image seems dark to me at thumbnail size. And the hook really isn't the best. You have much more hooky material in the article than having to name-drop. I'll return it to the noms page. Yoninah (talk) 17:11, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I loved to have any image, and wanted to relate, - how is that namedrop? Thank you for returning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:14, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Name-dropping is sticking in her husband's name. Yoninah (talk) 17:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Only because he is just as legendary and may give readers a connection. A bit like Brecht before him. Some sources don't even say they were married, that's beside the point. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:25, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I know, that's how you write hooks. But you're really writing resumes. Yoninah (talk) 17:29, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Call it that that I like to point out someone's greatest achievements. You say Brecht, or Stein, and those who know a bit see a style, - same for others. One of my New Year's resolutions will be to reduce DYK. The one line you get to say, after arguing and debating, is just not worth the investment of time. She was well-received on ITN, - I had just hoped to highlight her a bit more by an image. Please no more ping today, I'm busy with Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:37, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

DYKSTATS
So we now have a week with the new 400 / hour threshold, and I'm thinking that 500 / hour would have been better. You supported the 500 / hour limit and I think the consensus was there to change to either 400 or 500. At the 400 / hour level, a hook can qualify with only 4,800 views (lower than the old system) when a queue runs for 12 hours. Do you think it would be ok for me to just go ahead and change to 500? Or should I just let December play out and then present it for further discussion at the Talk page? Cbl62 (talk) 17:40, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I think you should present it for discussion right now. I didn't understand your decision to go with 400 when there was consensus for 500. Yoninah (talk) 18:00, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for the feedback. Cbl62 (talk) 18:12, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * And thank you for posting that. I've run into trouble assuming that no one is looking and just going ahead and doing what I want, and then having people question it (like here). It's better to be up and aboveboard, even if you're the only one handling it. Yoninah (talk) 18:17, 7 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The proposal to increase the threshold for the all-time lists at DYKSTATS has been pending for almost seven days now with very little feedback. See Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Statistics. Did you have any thoughts about it? Do you think it's sufficient to let it run for seven days before implementing the proposed pruning? Cbl62 (talk) 07:02, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * well, it looks like there is no strong opposition. Please go ahead and change the threshold to 500. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 11:48, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I did that. My question, though, was about the proposal regarding the all-time lists. Let me know if you have any thoughts on that. Best, Cbl62 (talk) 16:54, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I commented on that proposal at the talk page. Yoninah (talk) 17:45, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oops. I missed that. Thanks. Cbl62 (talk) 17:55, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Marie-Louise Lacoste
I just took this one live. Not sure if there is anything of interest for DYK, but also a warning the sourcing is almost entirely in French. If you are interested, great, if you aren't or are too busy, no worries. SusunW (talk) 18:07, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * please provide the source for this hook:
 * ... that the diaries of 19th-century Quebec philanthropist Lady Lacoste have given historians a rare look into how emotions impacted the lives of women in her social class?
 * Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:04, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. There's plenty to choose from, though I only cited one ref in the article. "Le journal de Marie-Louise Lacoste constitue un rare et précieux témoignage sur la façon dont une mère pouvait vivre le deuil d’un enfant, à une époque où, à Montréal, un bébé sur quatre mourrait avant d’avoir un an".-volume-iii-numéro-1-avril Also "Le journal de Marie-Louise constitue un témoignage rare et précieux de la façon dont les mères vivaient ce deuil." The English abstract here: "diary, which covers three decades of her adult life, reflects a contrasted emotional landscape, fluctuating between suffering and joy. The present article addresses the diarist's joy, which occurred in specific circumstances, especially when she was fulfilling the duty she felt to be her own as a catholic, bourgeois woman and felt herself to be on a path towards paradise. By studying the joys of the diarist, this article intends to shed new light on Globensky's vision of the world and on her motivations, as well as on the power relationships in the Montréal society to which she belonged. SusunW (talk) 21:30, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see the hook fact in Doucet 2013, only in Doucet 2017, the one with the English abstract. Do you want to fix the cite for footnote 11 in the article? Yoninah (talk) 22:04, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * could you also give me the source wording for this hook?
 * ALT1: ... that while 19th-century Lady Lacoste raised her children with strict Victorian morals, refusing to allow them to ride bicycles, she encouraged their interest in theatre? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:06, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Added Doucet 2017. 2011 and 2013 says the diary is rare. Give me a minute to search out the text for the alt. SusunW (talk) 22:10, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * "Lady Lacoste apparaît en effet comme le prototype de grande dame victorienne…Si Lady Lacoste assiste à la messe quotidiennement, impose à ses adolescents l’assistance aux vêpres dominicales et leur interdit la bicyclette ou les baignades publiques au nom de la pudeur, en revanche, pas une reunion de famille importante n’a lieu sand que les Lacoste ne se livrent aux improvisations lyriques ou dramatiques du théâtre amateur."p 69
 * thank you! Yoninah (talk) 22:28, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
 * No, thank you! I truly appreciate your work to include women in DYK. Especially the hard ones with mostly foreign sourcing ;) SusunW (talk) 22:30, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Hideaway (U.S. Senate)
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK?
Hi. I don't think I can propose a DYK at the DYK page as an IP. But I see you just reviewed one on another basketball player. Perhaps this one will interest you.

As this new article indicates, Bryan Cohen was the only player in league history to win the Patriot League Defensive Player of Year award three times.

Alternately, the article also says he was the seventh player in any NCAA Division I conference to win a defensive MVP award three times.

If it does interest you, feel free to propose it and get the credit. If not, lmk and I will ask someone listed as a frequent contributor. Thanks. --2604:2000:E010:1100:F9AE:C9A7:8C7E:1778 (talk) 04:22, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Ronnie L. Podolefsky
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Sarah Wilkerson Freeman
&mdash; Amakuru (talk) 12:03, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Florence Lewis (activist)
—valereee (talk) 12:01, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Women's poll tax repeal movement
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Autumn (Australian band)
Sorry about stuffing up the name of my nomination and I appreciate your helpful comments. Keep up your good works. Its comforting to have others support me whenever I blunder around. Good onya, mate.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 23:09, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Re:DYK nomination of John Montgomery Cooper
Thanks for the message on my talk page! They should be taken care of now. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 00:49, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you for your edits. I think the presentation should be divided into his anthropological and academic careers so it will be clearer. I can take another look at the source material tomorrow. Best, Yoninah (talk) 00:51, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * His academic career is tied to his anthropological endeavors so I personally think that keeping them in one section is fine. If you still would like them to be in two sections, I can do that. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 04:17, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Marjorie Finlay DYK
I just started Marjorie Finlay, a 1950-60s opera singer and radio/TV personality in Puerto Rico. Finlay is the maternal grandmother of Taylor Swift. She served as an early musical inspiration for Swift who just released a song about her, Draft:Marjorie (song). I'm waiting for an admin to move my draft over the redirect (not sure why there is a delay). I collaborated with on identifying public domain images (now added to the article). No worries if you don't think this is good for DYK or if you busy/not interested! TJMSmith (talk) 15:28, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * great, thanks for letting me know! Let me know when the draft is accepted to mainspace and I'll try to craft a double hook. Yoninah (talk) 15:31, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, we are good to go with Marjorie Finlay and Marjorie (song)! TJMSmith (talk) 12:45, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Beethoven 250 years
Thank you so much for contribs to the birthday display! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

I understand from your revert that the threashold for DYKSTATS was changed. Who decided that? Was it well-published? It didn't reach me. How about IAR for a transition time, for what looks like 20 views too few per the new limit, and more than double enough per the old? - How about a well-published change 1 January 2021, to make things comparable in 2020. ... or will we throw out all others earlier this year that didn't reach 500/hour, for fairness? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:08, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * please join the conversation at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Statistics. Yoninah (talk) 14:03, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * After Christmas. I can't be everywhere, I put too much of my time here already. Can you perhaps say there that I think to make such a change so close to the end of the year seems unfair? - I'd just swallow it, btw, if it was "my" article, but I already congratulated Aza24. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Something good seems to have happened for that one. Sorry, I noticed only now that happened to a hook, - sorry, too late, but it really changed the meaning. Not those in need are called to take courage, but I am called to tell them. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Anticipated request
Hi, can you promote Template:Did you know nominations/Nucleoside-modified messenger RNA once this is passed. I have addressed the issues and I anticipate it to be passed by today or tomorrow. I believe any prep before 1 Jan 2021 is OK since its a topic of discussion now-a-days. Will let you once passed. Thank you — Amkgp 💬  09:23, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Nucleoside-modified messenger RNA has been passed. I would kindly request to promote to any earliest available slot. Thank you — Amkgp 💬  04:16, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I promoted it to the first available set, but I think key driving forces is redundant. The article also doesn't say anything like that. Do you mean it's a key ingredient or key element in these vaccines? Yoninah (talk) 14:02, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah....key element. I think "key element" would me more appropriate than "key driving force". I used the latter for hookyness only as you can see I mentioned in the DYK discussions. You may change it to "key element" if its correct and acceptable. Thank you. — Amkgp 💬  14:08, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks, I'll do that. Yoninah (talk) 14:39, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I changed 'element' to 'technology' as it is the best term. See COVID-19_vaccine — Amkgp 💬  14:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

BYU
Hi Yoninah, regarding your note about Template:Did you know nominations/A Little Lower Than the Angels (novel), one of the aims of the BYU accounts seems to have been to have BYU, its staff and alumni—including living people and their work—featured on the main page via DYK, which amounts to paid advocacy. (Having said that, personally I have no objection to the way the article about that novel is written.)

I've been looking at this issue for the last couple of weeks and have wondered why you promoted so many of their articles. I see now that you believed it was just regular WiR work, and in fairness to the BYU accounts, perhaps they thought the same. Please see the COIN discussion for more information. It seems that there's a lack of clarity about WiR around the edges, and it can easily blur into paid editing/advocacy. Best wishes, SarahSV (talk) 22:18, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * yes, I did not see it as a problem because the articles were well-written and sourced, and I was promoting a lot of "topic" articles on Mormonism rather than write-ups of the BYU staff and alumni. Not knowing anything about the WiR program, I thought they just had better access to the BYU library to write these articles, so I wasn't aware there was a problem. I'm aware of the discussion at COIN and see that it hasn't yet been resolved. Best, Yoninah (talk) 22:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * There are POV and sourcing issues.An example of the POV, Template:Did you know nominations/Zina P. Young Card. Zina P. Young Card describes her as a "women's rights activist" who fought for the vote. But she also fought for the right to exercise plural marriage. The latter means she wasn't what most people (if anyone) would call a women's rights activist, because "plural marriage", which gave only one spouse the right to engage in it, was inherently patriarchal.Also see A Little Lower Than the Angels (novel). The lead says "it received attention for its ... impartial approach to Mormon history, especially regarding polygamy". But the article describes the book as offering a negative portrayal of plural marriage, or at least that's how I read it, so it's not clear what "impartial" means in this context.An example of the sourcing issues, Template:Did you know nominations/Howard Rusk Long. Howard Rusk Long cites material several times that's only available in the BYU archive. Presumably BYU could put the material online, but they've chosen not to, so the public has no way of accessing it. That means it fails WP:V. We have to be able to cite published sources. SarahSV (talk) 00:36, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I think the reviewers are saying it's impartial in that, for a book written by a person raised in/near Mormonism, it didn't simply paint Mormon doctrine in a positive light. A portrayal of plural marriage -- that is, the kind of plural marriage that allows only one gender to have multiple partners -- doesn't have to give equal weight to both "sides" in order to be impartial. —valereee (talk) 03:14, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, not sure what you mean by the reviewers. It was the BYU editor who first created the article who called it "impartial". It strikes me a strange choice of word for a negative account; impartial implies balance. I'm not criticizing the body of the article, by the way, only the lead. SarahSV (talk) 03:37, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


 * , yes, but the article says it received attention for its lyrical prose and impartial approach to Mormon history, especially regarding polygamy. The BYU editor is referring to someone else's description of the impartiality. They aren't calling it impartial on their own. —valereee (talk) 04:12, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , I can't see anyone calling it "impartial" except for the BYU editor. It's not in the source, and the sentence had no source when it was first added. SarahSV (talk) 04:26, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , the source that sentence is cited to does talk about the presentation of Mormonism and polygamy in the book, very briefly. It doesn't use the word impartial, but it talks about "the frustration of polygamy" and about Sorensen writing about the main character accepting her husband's religion because she loves him and reflecting on the smugness of believers who aren't tolerant to other ways of thinking. The whole piece is basically about the fact that Sorensen in her fiction wasn't a typical Mormon writer, how she was criticized by other Mormons for presenting "unlovely" things, that she considered herself a defender of the faith and that as part of defending the faith she had to represent it faithfully, the bad along with the good. The sentence maybe could be worded more precisely, but it isn't actually misleading I don't think. —valereee (talk) 12:32, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , can you say which source you mean, with a page number? This is where "impartial" was added. There was a source at the end of the lead; no page number. This is the current source; page range 56–64. SarahSV (talk) 23:14, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * , yes, that's the one, link below. Defender of the faith stuff p60, ALLTTA character's frustration with polygamy p61, smugness of believers pretty much throughout, but it's only 9 pages. "Sorensen characterizes smug believers with tolerance, sympathy, and insight" p61. John Widtsoe revieiwng her first book 'praised her gifts but deplored what he called 'unlovely' incidents' p 61. "In her works we have a special innocence, part of the fading murals which Mormon historians must rush to save before the zealous whitwashers have rubbed them all away." p57 —valereee (talk) 23:24, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * do you mind moving this discussion to your talk page? Yoninah (talk) 23:37, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, Yoninah, of course. —valereee (talk) 00:25, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Big Long Slidin' Thing
Hi Yoninah. I noticed that with this diff, you removed my hook from prep 7. Can I ask what happened to it? Cbl62 (talk) 23:01, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks for the reminder. I'll return it to the noms page. Too many editors are promoting hook images instead of building whole sets, and there have been too many black and white lead images of late. But it does deserve an image slot. Best, Yoninah (talk) 23:13, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was afraid that it had fallen into an abyss. Cbl62 (talk) 23:14, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Best wishes for the holidays

 * thank you! And a very happy holiday season to you and your family too. Yoninah (talk) 15:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Deb Price
Hi Yoninah:

Thanks for moving the DYK to Prep 3. In this move, the hook has been tweaked to a point where I do not know if what is promoted is actually true. Please can you have a look. Agree in spirit, but, the tweak might not be factually accurate. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 23:55, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
 * you're right, and thanks for noticing. I'm replacing it with ALT2.1. Best, Yoninah (talk) 00:05, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Adding image after nominating article for DYK?
Hi, Yoninah, hope all is well. I created Template:Did you know nominations/Mercy dog and I just today found a PD-painting at File:"Red Cross Dog" - Alexander Pope.png that I thought might be a good image to run in DYK. What do you think? 1) I tend to not ever put images in to my hook nominations and 2) I'm not really sure how to add it into the template after already creating the nomination Sorry if this isn't the best place to ask a question, I wasn't sure where to go. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:54, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It's easy – you just copy and paste the template from one of the sets in T:DYKQ and fill in the information. I did that for you. It's always a good idea to add images from the article to the nomination. Yoninah (talk) 16:13, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you! Eddie891 Talk Work 16:14, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Frances Todman
Not sure if there is anything interesting there for DYK, but I just took her live. Hope you are enjoying your holiday season. Best wishes for 2021. SusunW (talk) 21:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I could do something with her 20 years with the Retina Foundation and their naming a laboratory in her honor, but the 20 years fact needs a cite please. Yoninah (talk) 22:26, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Expanded the text on the through 2000 sentence. She started in 1979 and last involvement that I could find was 2000. Let me know if you need more.SusunW (talk) 22:34, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Yoninah (talk) 22:40, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you. You should sign up for free with FamilySearch to find birth, marriage, and census records for deceased persons. Best, Yoninah (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Good idea. I just did. All the best, Eddie891 Talk Work 03:27, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

 * thank you, I like your card! Happy holidays to you too. Yoninah (talk) 18:56, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Season's greetings

 * thank you for the greeting and for your very kind words. Happy holidays to you too! Yoninah (talk) 20:21, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy Christmas
  "And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold,  I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord." Luke 2:10-11 (King James Version)  The C of E  God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) is wishing you a  Merry Christmas. This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove. Spread the cheer by adding to their talk page with a friendly message.

 The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 20:19, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Merry Christmas to you too! Enjoy the fruits of your labor on the main page today and tomorrow! Yoninah (talk) 20:22, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Psalm 148
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Kirka Sharif
Hello, I am so sorry to bother you. I see you closed the nomination as unsuccessful. Can you please reopen it? Again, I am so sorry. I work in the medical field and I was very busy at work because of the global pandemic. Would really appreciate if you would let me know what I need to do to get this through. Thank you! Zakaria ښه راغلاست (talk) 05:05, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK question
Hi Yoninah, would you mind giving an opinion at Template:Did you know nominations/Black Focus on whether I can approve ALT1 or need another reviewer (I wrote the hook, but it's essentially the same fact with the same source as ALT0 by the nominator)? Pinged you but I know you do a million things at DYK so I thought it might be better to ask here. Thanks! — Bilorv ( talk ) 21:23, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * well, you did add a minor fact to the hook that wasn't there before, so I think you should call for another reviewer. Best, Yoninah (talk) 21:27, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Cheers, have requested one. — Bilorv ( talk ) 21:35, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK John Clark Mayden
Hi Yoninah, Now that this DYK nom is approved and ready for promotion, I'd like to request it be scheduled in the Special occasion holding area for January 18, as mentioned on the nom's "comment" line, for Martin Luther King Day. Thanks,  JGHowes   talk  00:07, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Yoninah (talk) 17:04, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK Master of the Lille Adoration
Yoninah, I've reviewed this nom, which is requested for the Special occasion holding area on Jan. 6, Epiphany Day. Also, as a footnote, the nom opined that "Reviewers aren't really supposed to propose hooks" -- really? Did I miss something?  JGHowes   talk  00:25, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I responded on the template. Yoninah (talk) 17:05, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, well, I took the nom's comment "Alternative hooks could make this connection more strongly" as a request for such, hence it was meant as a suggestion to make the hook clearer for Epiphany, for the nom's consideration, not as my hook per se. Since the nom prefers Alt0 anyway, so be it.  JGHowes   talk  17:46, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

A New Year With Women in Red!
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Monsey Hanukkah stabbing
I raised an issue related to this article at RSN and the fact that you added the perpetrator's ethnicity was mentioned - it was a violation of WP:Ethnicity and has been removed by another editor. I thought you should know why it was removed. Doug Weller talk 06:52, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you for letting me know. When we were building that article the facts of the case were not completely known; now that a judge has sent him to a mental facility we know more about the nature of the crime. I'm fine with the changes to the article. Best, Yoninah (talk) 11:41, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Katherine Loker
Just took this live. The numbers are just mind-boggling. I cannot even wrap my head around them. Surely there is something here for you? (and a pretty good photo too, if I do say so myself) If not, no worries. SusunW (talk) 17:11, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * OK. But do you want to mention that she was an heir to the StarKist fortune? Where else did she get her money from? Yoninah (talk) 23:45, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I see no reason not to. I think the sources treat the source of her largess from her inheritance as a given. Both she and her husband worked at StarKist (though I find no evidence she worked after her childhood.) SusunW (talk) 23:56, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * great. So please add something about being an heir to the fortune and I'll go ahead with the nomination. You can see that I added two sentences summarizing her total donations to both Harvard and USC, which is what I want to use in the hook. Yoninah (talk) 23:58, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Added As an heir to the StarKist fortune, "Loker and her husband supported USC ...". cited to the Boston Globe and the Bend Bulletin. SusunW (talk) 00:08, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Marie-Louise Lacoste
— Maile (talk) 00:02, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks
For your work helping this pass while I was a little bit preoccupied both receiving and administering such an injection... for a reason related to the hook. I barely have time to write this before heading to bed before more long days ahead, but I greatly appreciate your help and willingness to work on it even with little from me. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 03:15, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you. I hope you feel better soon! Yoninah (talk) 15:45, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks - the Pfizer vaccine seems to be fairly innocuous at least to me, similar to an annual flu vaccine in terms of feeling slightly “yucky” for a day or so, but I’m back to normal now. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez (User/say hi!) 19:09, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Good to hear that. Yoninah (talk) 19:35, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

 * Thank you! Yoninah (talk) 20:22, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

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Possible DYK: Agitu Ideo Gudeta
Just started an article on Agitu Ideo Gudeta. She was an Ethiopian refugee in Italy who was murdered a few days ago :( Her successful integration, environmentalism, and farming operation could likely be an interesting hook. TJMSmith (talk) 17:27, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks. Have you worked with or  on images to illustrate your women's biographies? Yoninah (talk) 17:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hullo. Got the ping. I haven't found a great free image of Agitu Ideo Gudeta, but I found/made you some not-great ones. Pick one, or if you like, see if you can find/make a better one from that free licensed video they're from. --GRuban (talk) 18:50, 31 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Oh wow GRuban, thanks for your efforts to find a public domain photo. I've added the second, although it anyone objects due to the blurriness, I wouldn't take offense. TJMSmith (talk) 19:08, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * aren't there any clearer images? Yoninah (talk) 01:10, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Not that I could find. It's a 480px video and never zooms in on her, so this is maybe a 150px image. I should probably re-capture it at a smaller size. --GRuban (talk) 01:29, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Done; 179px in height. --GRuban (talk) 21:31, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , She was the subject of this documentary by Deutsche Welle. Someone just uploaded File:Agitu Gudeta.jpg to commons. I'm not familiar with DW, but perhaps it is available under a free license? TJMSmith (talk) 03:46, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Almost certainly not, unfortunately. We are plagued with anonymous well-wishers who are eager to steal people's copyrighted photographs ... for a good cause, of course, but all too often the photographers don't appreciate the benefits thereof. Now, there have been lots of interviews with AIG, you could email them and ask if they would release better images under https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/. My success rate for that sort of thing is about 15-20%, so if you email six-ten of them... maybe ...?--GRuban (talk) 21:31, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I am thinking about a short hook, like:
 * ... that Ethiopian–Italian environmentalist Agitu Ideo Gudeta was nicknamed "the Queen of Happy Goats"?
 * Please provide me with the wording from the Telegraph source about her being a national symbol of environmentalism. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:22, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , The first hook sounds good. Maybe adding "refugee" before environmentalist adds to the hook? Either way works. From the Telegraph: "As one of the few black people farming in the region, she had overcome persistent racial harassment to become a beloved figure in the valley. She became a national symbol for environmentalism and integration after Radical Party politician Emma Bonino singled her out as an example of successful integration and courageous female entrepreneurship." Similar messaging/wording is repeated in other Italian and English-language sources. TJMSmith (talk) 22:49, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations on the No. 16 DYK hook of 2020!
The 2020 totals are now complete, and your hook for Beulah Ream Allen and her story of survival at Japanese internment camps ranked as the No. 16 hook of the year with 1,769 DYK views per hour. A list of the 25 most viewed hooks of the year can be viewed at "Top hooks of 2020". Congratulations on your hook's remarkable showing, and keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 10:17, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know! Yoninah (talk) 16:22, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Bryan Cohen
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Stefan Ihrig
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

QAI
You are an honorary member of WP:QAI for exquisite work around DYK, and the psalms! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:44, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * thank you! And what a beautiful picture! Yoninah (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I just looked at Psalm 71, thank you for texts, and invite to add more. I would have been feasible for a DYK until additions on 18 December, - we can probably forget that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:35, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Happy Wikipedia 20, - proud of a little bit on the Main page today, and 5 years ago, and 10 years ago, look: create a new style - revive - complete! I sang in the revival mentioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ... and today Jerome Kohl, remembered in friendship --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:44, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Please review my draft page
Hi. My request on the article Draft:Asif Tariq was declined because of lack of sources. Unfortunately this is a very small town and it is difficult to find many sources. I did my best, Hope in your help. Majid Saleem78 (talk) 18:07, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * you have a lot of sources here, but the subject does not appear to meet the criteria in WP:CREATIVE. He just became editor of a literary magazine this year. Yoninah (talk) 18:13, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

He is a renowned Kashmiri poet. Please help me out i had worked hard on this Article. Majid Saleem78 (talk) 18:16, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * OK. Give me a day or two. Yoninah (talk) 18:17, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank You for understanding. I again request you to Please and please help me. Majid Saleem78 (talk) 18:19, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Why does the article have a conflict of interest tag on it? Yoninah (talk) 21:53, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

It was tagged by a Wikipedian. Can you please approve this draft. It may help me out Majid Saleem78 (talk) 21:56, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I really don't know why you're involving me here. I cannot approve drafts. I am now suspicious of who is editing this article to deserve the conflict of interest tag. Why don't you apply at WP:GOCE for help with the article? Yoninah (talk) 21:57, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

I saw you as a professional editor so that's why i seek your help. The subject is renowned Kashmiri poet. Majid Saleem78 (talk) 21:59, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, but I am busy with other projects and this will take me a few hours to fix. Try WP:GOCE, okay? Yoninah (talk) 22:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the help i will go for the said tag. I hope you will council in future as well. Majid Saleem78 (talk) 22:02, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

I was wondering why we got this plea at the GOCE. , please don't refer users to the GOCE if the issue doesn't have to do with copyediting. You are unfortunately not the only one whom this user has asked for help. — Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:06, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, brother. I wasn't aware. Sorry about that. Yoninah (talk) 23:34, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
 * , Please see Sockpuppet investigations/BurhanHyder.. Long story can be found at User talk:Majid Saleem78. ─ The Aafī   (talk)|undefined  22:01, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * thank you, that's very nice of you to say. Yoninah (talk) 17:12, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Judith R. Cohen
— Maile (talk) 12:02, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Frances Todman
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Darwin’s Darkest Hour /Messed Up Ping
I changed your edit on Darwin’s Darkest Hour from documentary episode to drama episode. It’s surprisingly filmed as a drama (and it’s a pretty good one). I pinged you for your thoughts at Template:Did you know nominations/Riot Games, but I think that I messed up the ping. SL93 (talk) 13:27, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Vine-Glo
Hi Yoninah. Just wondering, what was the reason for not using the image slot for Vine-Glo?  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 14:08, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I just felt that the real hook was in the first clause, and Al Capone read as an afterthought. Yoninah (talk) 17:08, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Agitu Ideo Gudeta
Hello! Your submission of Agitu Ideo Gudeta at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! —valereee (talk) 20:53, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for John Clark Mayden
please note, I've now added a free photo to this article since the DYK review by and promotion by. The DYK is now in Prep #7 for Jan. 18.  JGHowes   talk  20:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * well, the set is in honor of Martin Luther King Jr Day, so I think we should keep the historic district in the main slot. Would you like me to move this hook to a later prep set to get an image slot? Yoninah (talk) 20:28, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * No, prefer to leave the Mayden DYK sans photo in the MLK Day slot. Photo's in the article itself, so the throngs of readers who (hopefully) are hooked will see it there.   JGHowes   talk  21:07, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Katherine Loker
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Marjorie (song)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Marjorie Finlay
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Tom Acker
Hi Yoninah! The editor who approved the above DYK nom did not comment on my request to hold for one week more than the 6 week max. I take it that I should not move it to the holding area, and wait for another editor to move it? Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:56, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I moved it. Yoninah (talk) 11:46, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Bianca Smith
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for 2021 PSL players draft
Hi Yoninah, I replied to you here. Can you take a look? Thanks. CreativeNorth (talk) 15:07, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Pending DYK should be pulled?
Yoninah, I'm thinking my DYK nom of Susan Estes perhaps should be pulled &mdash; right now, it's in Queue 3 to go live tomorrow at 1900 New York time. Reason being, her company has just gone out of business! See: https://www.thetradenews.com/us-treasuries-trading-firm-opendoor-ceases-operations/ The article has been updated to reflect this development. What do you think? (update) Never mind, was discussed here.  JGHowes   talk  12:44, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Eleanor Keaton
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Common name
Hi Yoninah: I notice that you put a citation in the lead of Trinidad euphonia, and see that you commented on another DYK nomination that "The common name needs to be cited in the lead." Can you please point me to that MOS requirement? This is new to us at WP:BIRDS, so I want to make sure we point editors to the appropriate link in our article advice. MeegsC (talk) 12:41, 28 January 2021 (UTC)


 * @MeegsC that's how I interpret MOS:COMMONNAME, which says "it is best to give both the common and scientific name at first occurrence", and of course the first occurrence would be in the lead of the article about the subject. —valereee (talk) 19:46, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Agitu Ideo Gudeta
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Really
Seriously? A Wikipedian died and we don't even know what happened? People like Pi Zero and Flyer Frozen22 got closure, but stuff related to this editor "has been suppressed, blah blah blah." It's such an insult to her memory. The community can't even be at peace about this. Firestar464 (talk) 01:10, 29 March 2021 (UTC)


 * WP:PRIVACY Wikipedia is not an international intelligence organization keeping personal details about any editor. Without a public release from Yoninah's family, we have no right to release personal details about her.  That also means we can't release any personal information about you, even if you died.  — Maile  (talk) 01:43, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It would be a bit more respectful, your tone notwithstanding, if you had at least taken the time to get the latter user's name right. Daniel Case (talk) 18:33, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * . IMO your post is about a grievance that you have and is not relevant to Yoninah or her work for Wikipedia. I would like to suggest that you remove it from this page as it does not fit with the condolences being expressed by other editors. Perhaps this post could go on your talk page. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 19:58, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Struck it out. Sorry. Firestar464 (talk) 02:01, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Help Create a Page
HEllo There! I have seen your massive work towards the contribution of knowledge providing. There are, however, many things that can be made.
 * Hello, but you're in the wrong forum. The person you're currently talking to has ceased to exist. You might have a better chance asking on the teahouse (which you have already done). --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 08:26, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * , "The person you're currently talking to has ceased to exist" is a bit too crass to put on the talk page of an editor who has recently died. Please show respect. Lettlerhello • contribs 20:23, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry. English is my third language, so I might not be quite proficient with euphemisms in English. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 06:44, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Yoninah died February 6, 2021
I cannot share the source here, because it mentions her RL identity. However, I emailed the link and info to a member of Wikimedia oversight before posting here. The source that announced her death is dated February 7, 2021. It says she became ill on February 3, and died on the February 6 Jewish sabbath of Shabbos. No other details were given. In some ways, it seems kind of bittersweet that she died on the Jewish sabbath. That's all I know. — Maile (talk) 12:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * That the now-suppressed source that was posted on the Deceased Wikipedians page was dated well before she even apparently became ill, just underlines what a bad idea it is to try and play amateur detective when an editor has not disclosed their RL identity on Wikipedia.-- P-K3 (talk) 13:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You are correct. Interesting in that both the suppressed version, and the one I found came from the same organization, the latter was a notice posted by a rabbi. — Maile  (talk) 14:01, 1 April 2021 (UTC)