Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Discrimination/Archive 2

New Possible Forms of Discrimination
Ok, I don't know what people will do with this information. I am hoping it will be used for people to create articles about certain forms and delete some about others. I typed into google different general forms of discrimination to see where they fit in commonality of use. Note, for Mentalism I typed in Mentalism Discrimination to prevent it from confusing it with the performing art. These were my results Racism		21,200,000 Sexism	        2,820,000 Ageism	          452,000 Classism          240,000 Speciesism         93,000 Mentalism          79,400 Colorism           58,400 Lookism            48,400 Hairism            37,400 Religionism        25,400 Ethnicism          20,900 Sexualism          19,900 Nameism            16,600 Genism	           15,500 Sizeism            13,800 Genderism          13,300 Linguicism         12,200 Handism            11,900 Rankism            11,200 Weightism           7,750 Eyeism	            1,930 I hope this will encourage people to make some new discrimination articles and possibly delete some others. The new ones without articles that should be looked at are Hairism, Ethnicism, Nameism, Genderism, Handism, and Eyeism -Rainbowofpeace (talk) 07:46, 23 December 2010 (UTC) How about a suggestion for adding sexuality to that list? Or is it already there?  J e n o v a  20 17:14, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

LGBT plus the use of codewords such as 'lifestyle' and 'behavior'
I have no energy for these types of pedantic discussions, so I'm handing off this issue in the hopes that someone who is an experienced editor will take this up...

I recently edited a sub-section of the Racism in the Ukraine article to read 'individual' in place of 'lifestyle' and/or 'behavior' as it related to those who are LGBT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Racism_and_discrimination_in_Ukraine#Intolerance_towards_LGBT...

Now, for those of us who are LGBT, we understand that this is something we are born with and cannot control. I see this as an established fact.

Fundamentalist zealots use code words such as 'lifestyle', 'lifestyle choice', and/or 'behavior' in order to frame the debate to suit their own reality of evil gays with an agenda who are all victims of a weak or absent father figure, or whatever pseudo-scientific hokum of day... so I think I'm justified when I change back these words to a NPV of individual.

--67.191.241.97 (talk) 03:55, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Completely agree. Thanks  J e n o v a  20 09:25, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Ethnoreligious group
I'm posting this note here to request help with the article at Ethnoreligious group, that has a template from this Wikiproject on its talk page. The article currently has no sources for the definition of the term, and there is talk page discussion about a possible merge with Ethnic religion. If anyone here is interested in this topic, please join the discussion or add sources to the page. Thanks. --Jack-A-Roe (talk) 00:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Stereotypes of white people
Any comment on the RFC, and on the requested move, would be greatly appreciated :). BillMasen (talk) 09:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Category for discussion notice: Category:Hate groups
Please note that a user has nominated the Category "Hate Groups" for deletion. Please see discussion here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_April_10#Category:Hate_groups --DCX (talk) 07:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Category for deletion : Opposes LGBT rights
If anyone cares to weigh in on this, please see below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_April_12#Category:LGBT_rights_opposition

--DCX (talk) 23:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

The Political Cesspool
The Political Cesspool has been nominated as a Featured Article. The discussion is here. Feel free to contribute. Stonemason89 (talk) 00:40, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Greetigs
Greetings community! I'm your new member. Pleasure "meeting" you! Aregakn (talk) 01:26, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I'd appreciate your comments on my IQ testing source list.
I notice that several Wikipedia articles related to IQ testing are listed as in the scope of this WikiProject Discrimination. I have posted a bibliography of  Intelligence Citations for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in those issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research and to suggest new sources to me by comments on that page. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 21:32, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Hope not Hate
A new user, Londonblue, has arrived at this article and has made edits that are poorly formatted, remove references, add unreferenced material and are propagandistic and unencyclopedic. Lb has not responded to my post on his/her talk page and is reinstating similar text after I and another user reverted him/her. This project is the only one mentioned on the article talk page. I anyone here willing to try and engage or work with this new user to make changes without the sort of problems I have mentioned?--Peter cohen (talk) 23:32, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Israel and the apartheid analogy - move request
Please see Talk:Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy and opine as your conscience leads you. -- Avi (talk) 21:48, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Israel and the apartheid analogy - assessment
(XPosting to all 3 relevant projects) From reading the guidelines on article assessment, it seems that anyone can upgrade or downgrade an article's quality rating (short of GA or FA) unless there is a more formal process that the appropriate WikiProject has. From my reading of what constitutes a "start class" article at WP:ASSESS, this one is well, well above that classification. But given the acrimony over this article, one editor simply reassessing on their own will no doubt meet with a revert war. So what do we do, is there a review/evaluation process here? Tarc (talk) 13:23, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Racism in the Palestinian territories: subject of article under debate
There is a lively discussion at the Neutral point of view/Noticeboard concerning whether racism by Israeli settlers and soldiers can be included, or only racism by Arab Palestinians. A name change/restoration has been proposed to support the exclusive view. This is perhaps of relevance to others working on Racism by country articles.--Carwil (talk) 12:18, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Notice of ArbCom decision on Race and intelligence and related articles
The Arbitration Commmittee case on race and intelligence has just been decided. Thus articles that are either in the Race and intelligence controversy category or mentioned in the  findings of the 2010 Arbitration Committee  case on Race and intelligence or closely related to those are subject to  active arbitration remedies that you may wish to review. The case decision seems to have resulted in an immediate improvement in the editing environment of several articles that previously were very contentious. Peaceful, collaborative editing that turns to sources and upholds Wikipedia policy is enjoyable editing. I thought I should let participants on this WikiProject know that this improved atmosphere now exists, because some of the articles related to that case have long been marked as part of this project. Your participation in editing those articles is welcomed and encouraged. You can look up sources to help improve articles in the source lists I have been compiling to share with all Wikipedians. And because the source lists span several different topics, and those topics fit quite a few articles in this WikiProject in whole or in part, suggesting new sources would be a very kind thing to do. The atmosphere has improved a lot, so the articles can improve a lot. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 01:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)


 * A friendly reminder to the editors who visit here that the articles in the category covered by the ArbCom case still need a lot of clean-up. You could help. I would be glad to see you over by those articles. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 16:05, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Article for Deletion Notice: Race Baiting
The article Race baiting has been nominated for deletion. You may wish to add a comment on the discussion page --George100 (talk) 08:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Main Page proposal
As related to Wikipedia Signpost/2010-09-06/News and notes, subsection: "Main page biases?" Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 22:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Please see Wikipedia_talk:Today's_featured_article/requests.

In the news - suggestion
Please see In_the_news/Candidates. -- Cirt (talk) 21:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Witt v. Department of the Air Force

Racism
The article on racism is in dire need of cleanup. There are multiple problems with the article, mainly dealing with biased and/or regional POVs, spelling errors, and interest groups. One problem with spelling errors is that the article seems to get a lot of attention from non-native English speakers, and I've already tagged quite a few sentences that are unintelligible. There seem to be more justifications in the article as to why certain people are not racist, than descriptions of acts of racism and acts of it. The history section deals far too much with the proposed evolution of counter-racism, which might also be WP:OR. A complete rewrite might be in order; with the current state of the article, it certainly isn't coherent. I can't imagine someone searching for a question they have about racism in the article, and them actually finding a real answer. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 02:56, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Is this project still active? --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 07:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Discrimination in scientific talk page!
Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#Talk:Graph_isomorphism --Tim32 (talk) 18:43, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


 * This project is not for dealing with discrimination inside Wikipedia, but deals with articles involving discrimination. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 23:02, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Shyamala Rajender v. University of Minnesota
Shyamala Rajender v. University of Minnesota is a rather stubby article and could use work. Michael Hardy (talk) 20:12, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Related AfD
Please see: Articles for deletion/Chicano vendido. Jaque Hammer (talk) 09:59, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Racist American Renaissance WP:RSN
I'm having a little trouble getting people to recognize that American Renaissance [magazine) which is all about racism, no matter it's denials, is being used as a WP:RS in the Criticisms of Wikipedia article. Ugh. Anyone want to comment?? Reliable_sources/Noticeboard. CarolMooreDC (talk) 23:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice canvassing. You hope that some editors will support discrimination based on political view? It is possible at English Wikipedia. --Dezidor (talk) 23:35, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Political views based on bigotry are first and foremost bigotry. And putting things on Wikiprojects is not canvassing. Going individually to lots of editors, especially who haven't edited a piece, or going off wiki is canvassing. CarolMooreDC (talk) 15:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Racism in Cuba
This article is in urgent need of improvement. It was proposed for deletion, which I declined, but despite definitely being notable (books, scholarly articles) it appears to be non-neutral and to have sourcing issues. Fences &amp;  Windows  02:18, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Seeking help on a list article
Hello there. I've been compiling a list of organizations designated as hate groups by the SPLC and ADL on one of my user subpages here. However, SPLC just updated their list, and I don't relish going through all the pages again. (Because so many of the listed groups are not notable, it isn't enough to answer "Well, just add the ones that aren't on your list yet" - I'd have to Google everything again.) If only a few people helped out, taking a few pages each, we could get this done very quickly. Would anyone like to help? Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 22:31, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Please review Articles for deletion/Aaron Tobey which concerns Aaron Tobey Richmond Airport 4th Amendment Naked Protest
and proposals being discussed there for a potential merged or more general additional article on US civilian aiport security regulation issues and public reactions, perspectives on and by foreign travelers, sociology, law, cultural phenomenology, and international context. The later detection of Fukushima radiation at US airports, which is not yet mentioned in this article, is also being discussed as a subtopic to be added into a general article. Separately from the 'criiticms' subsection on the US Transportation Security Administration alone.

Articles for deletion/Don't touch my junk is a second related AfD regarding another article which also presents a US airport bodily search protest.

A potential general article not only on protest but on efficacy, social context, and events which are of national and international note in these regards would also include breaking 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami and Fukushima I nuclear accidents news such as Japan radiation sets off O'Hare airport alarms -- CBS News Chicago station reports trace amounts of radiation clinging to flights from country ravaged by earthquake, tsunami:


 * "Trace amounts of radiation from Japan have been detected in Chicago, CBS News station WBBM-TV reports.

Travelers coming in from Japan on Wednesday triggered radiation detectors at O'Hare International Airport as they passed through customs. Only very small amounts of radiation were detected.

...Feds move more radiation monitors to West Coast...

"We are aware of the radiation," said Chicago Aviation Department spokeswoman Karen Pride. "We are adding screenings and precautionary measures."

...Radiation was also found in luggage and on passengers on flights from Japan.

Mayor Richard M. Daley and other city officials wouldn't provide any additional details, saying federal authorities were handling the situation.

"Of course the protection of the person coming off the plane is important in regards to any radiation and especially within their families," Daley said at an unrelated event." [more at] Articles for deletion/Aaron Tobey [and in the original CBS article March 17, 2011]. - Pandelver (talk) 20:19, 18 March 2011 (UTC)