Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lists/Archive 10

[new] List of Oscar Niemeyer works: feedback needed
I've recently began a more robust list to replace the current List of Oscar Niemeyer works. My prototype is at: User:Prburley/sandbox/n

I believe it follow WP:MOS and general WP architecture practices, but I'd appreciate any and all feedback from the WP:List community before I go very far into this.

Thanks in advance. Prburley (talk) 14:09, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

List of fatal shark attacks in California
I am wondering if someone from this WikiProject would mind taking a look at List of fatal shark attacks in California and assessing it. There seems to be a lot of detail provided about some of these attacks which might be taking things a bit too far, but I am not sure if that is common for these types of articles. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:35, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Problematic article
List of countries and dependencies by population is an article that is relevant to this project. After having it drop off my watchlist some time ago I returned on 9 August 2016 to find that the population table is constantly being edited without any indication of sourcing, or edit summaries, usually by IPs or newly registered editors. The complete lack of sourcing for new edits means that the data in this article is dubious at best. One particular problem that I found is that data templates, which are used to automatically calculate today's population based on official sources, have been removed and replaced with unsourced manual calculations. Several times now I have had to restore these templates after yet another unsourced, unexplained change. I have now tagged the article to identify issues, and requested semi-protection, but the input by responsible editors who can update the article with accurate, sourced data is needed. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 04:42, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata lists
If you are interested in future list generation using Wikidata, please consider taking a look at d:Wikidata:List generation input and providing any comments on d:Wikidata talk:List generation input. --Izno (talk) 11:45, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Opinion needed on a possible page move
Please visit and comment here:


 * Talk:List of tallest buildings in the world

Many thanks.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:55, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Request for Comment on Peer Review
The List of Georgetown University alumni has been nominated for peer review. All comments are welcome on how to improve the article in anticipation for Featured List nomination. You can comment here.  Ergo Sum  02:14, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Anne Carson
Hello list experts. I was working on this page and I noticed that it is in the category Category:Incomplete lists from April 2016. It doesn't appear to be a list article. Is this an error, or am I misunderstanding the purpose of the category?&mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 00:37, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

List of songs recorded by Alyssa Milano
I have nominated List of songs recorded by Alyssa Milano for featured list status here. I'd appreciate it if any of you could take a look and leave your comments. Aoba47 (talk) 18:36, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Michael Jackson videography
I have listed this article as a FLC here; Featured list candidates/Michael Jackson videography/archive2. Please give your opinion on this. Thanks. Chase (talk) 16:05, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

Adding banner to articles start with List of
Is anyone here adding list articles to this WikiProject? I just added a couple of dozen articles all of which started with List of. Surely this is something a BOT can do? Am I making sense? Ottawahitech (talk) 13:33, 23 October 2016 (UTC)please ping me
 * Perhaps this is something could help with? It should be simple, though many alphabetical lists are already tagged with WikiProject Indexes. Index is pseudonymous with list according to Oxford so I don't really know why we have WP Lists and WP Indexes and not just WP Lists. Probably wouldn't hurt to have lists tagged with both projects. Shouldn't be hard for Ser Amantio di Nicolao to get everything that starts with "List of" tagged with  .  lNeverCry  06:45, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Interesting point about WikiProject Indexes, I have always wondered what they are. I figured it was just one of those wiki-mysteries that I encounter almost daily :-) Ottawahitech (talk) 17:00, 5 November 2016 (UTC)please ping me
 * Forgot to mention there also wp:outlines which I think are specialized wp: Lists Ottawahitech (talk) 16:14, 6 November 2016 (UTC))please ping me
 * ... and wp:timelines? Ottawahitech (talk) 16:04, 7 November 2016 (UTC)please ping me

Featured list candidates/Shannen Doherty filmography/archive1
I have nominated Shannen Doherty filmography, and I would greatly appreciate it if any of you could take a look and leave your comments. Aoba47 (talk) 17:21, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Pardon my ignorance, but why is this wp:article called a wp:list? The introduction is all about the actress, not the list? Ottawahitech (talk) 17:08, 5 November 2016 (UTC)please ping me
 * I am not sure what you mean by the above comment. I have modeled this list after similar lists of actor's filmographies, such as James Franco filmography, Jessica Chastain on screen and stage, etc. The lead will of course be about Shannen Doherty as the list is about her filmography/work. The lead specifically focuses on Doherty's appearances in film, television, and other mediums, which is covered in the list itself. Aoba47 (talk) 19:39, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I am not sure myself what the wiki-rules are in respect to wp:featured lists. As an amateur I only wonder why there is so much duplicate information between the article Shannen Doherty and the list Shannen Doherty filmography? Who makes sure that both the list and the article are kept up-to-date? Ottawahitech (talk) 16:11, 6 November 2016 (UTC)please ping me
 * I am still not entirely sure what you are referring to in your above comments, but I will try my best to answer both of your questions:
 * 1) I take issue with your wording of "duplicate information" as it is implying that I copied-and-pasted, or took sentences/information directly from the Shannen Doherty article, which would be incorrect. I would suggest you read through similar lists pertaining to an actor's filmography. The list of an actor's filmography contains information exclusively about his or her performances across multiple forms of media (film, television, stage work, web series, etc.), while the main article about the actor contains more information. The main article would include information about his or her acting career, but would also have information about the actor's early life and personal life, his or her work outside of film (several actors have music careers, or are prominent activists), any awards or nominations the actor received, and the actor's appearance in the public media. For instance, I would suggest comparing the differences between Angelina Jolie and Angelina Jolie filmography. The filmography page exclusively covers Jolie's film, television, music video, and video game appearances, while the main article on Jolie covers a lot more. I believe that a filmography page is appropriate for Doherty as she has been in enough programs to justify a separate page. The difference between the main Doherty page and the Doherty filmography page may not be as obvious as that for Jolie, because the main Doherty page is not in the greatest of conditions. However, you should still be able to see that the information about Doherty's personal life is absent from the filmography page, so there is a difference between the two of them. I apologize for the long response to the first question, but I thought I might as well go through everything from my point of view.
 * 2) Regarding your question "Who makes sure that both the list and the article are kept up-to-date?", that applies to every single article and list on Wikipedia. It is up to the contributors/users to keep the articles up-to-date and correct, so I do not see how this is an issue directly related to this list. Aoba47 (talk) 18:11, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Please don’t read more into my words than what I said. I am not trying to insinuate anything in regards to your editing. Films and actors are a subject I rarely seek out at Wikipedia, and I was surprised to see how well this area is organized. Actually I wanted to thank you for educating me and other editors following this thread about Filmographies which as I found out are a specialized type of wp:Timelines.. More  at another date (if I can find the time). Ottawahitech (talk) 16:50, 11 November 2016 (UTC)please ping me
 * I was only responding to your message. As I have previously said, this list was created and organized around FL for other actors' discographies. I am not sure if that is anything else that I can add about this. Aoba47 (talk) 18:29, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

Stand-alone lists being nominated as Good Articles
-- Red rose64 (talk) 22:58, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note that one of the three proposals in this RfC involves creating a separate "Good Lists" rating and process independent of the GA process. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:16, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

A number of page moves


This is about removing "...in the world" from articles.

Could a few editors please go to Talk:List of oldest schools and weigh in? I would ask editors from the RfC, but they were all supports, so it would not be neutral. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:58, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * What are weighing in on again? That there's only one world? Ah well, what's time for if not wasting?   lNeverCry   03:19, 7 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi INeverCry. I don't even know anymore. I was taught at the West NGC 5195 School for Slow Children, so don't ask me. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:27, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Wait. There's a school there? I may have to reconsider my agreement on this one...  lNeverCry   03:31, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * In that galaxy? There are zillions of schools, most of them utter rubbish. In fact, that whole galaxy is considered rubbish according to Galaxy Millenially magazine. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:37, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, if Wikipedia ever starts a list of the shittiest, most broken down schools right here on our own cruddy ball of rock, I've got a few to add to the list...  lNeverCry   06:20, 7 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Good point. Take Detroit's Rubbish High for example. What a dump! With a name like that, they were just asking for it. They were going to name it after John D. Winner but decided to honor Chuck Rubbish. Bad call. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:30, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Mass removal of "in the world" from articles
I am posting here for the archival record because discussions happened at multiple pages at different times:


 * 2016 05 - Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive 52
 * 2016 12 - Talk:List of tallest buildings
 * 2016 12 - User talk:Anna Frodesiak#Other "in the world" pages

(There were a few more discussions here and there, but the above is most of it.)

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:25, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

Alyssa Milano discography - Featured list candidate
I have nominated Alyssa Milano discography for featured list status here. I'd appreciate it if any of you could take a look and leave your comments. Aoba47 (talk) 21:15, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Requested move notice
Greetings! I have recently relisted a requested move discussion at Talk:List of Christian denominations by number of members, regarding a page relating to this WikiProject. Discussion and opinions are invited. Thanks,  JudgeRM   (talk to me)  03:05, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

RfC on list format
A RfC on list format is open at Talk:List of earthquakes in 2016. All editors are welcome to respond to the RfC.―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 03:52, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Template:Nobel Prize in Literature at WP:TFD
Please comment at Templates_for_discussion/Log/2017_January_2.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:58, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of List of YouTubers for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of YouTubers is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of YouTubers until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Oliverrushton (talk) 17:15, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

List of highest-grossing films RFC
There is an RFC at Talk:List of highest-grossing films. Your project is being notified because it has declared the article is under your scope. Betty Logan (talk) 16:27, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

List of awards and nominations received by Sharon Stone
I have nominated List of awards and nominations received by Sharon Stone for featured list status here. I'd appreciate it if any of you could take a look and leave your comments. Aoba47 (talk) 21:28, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

List "of buildings" appropriate, or only if they are "notable buildings"?
Please see the discussion here. --2604:2000:E016:A700:35F4:5715:191A:EB3E (talk) 01:10, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

"Applications of" articles
There seem to be a number of 'Applications of' type articles in Wikpedia, and as far as I can see they should be treated as 'List of uses of' articles. Is there some standard about variants of 'list of' like this, and are there a number of other ways of saying 'list of' used in WIkipedia? Dmcq (talk) 10:51, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride
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List of cider brands
This list is a walking advertisement. It should be cleaned up thoroughly and all redlinks removed. As I see it, references do not belong there but in their respective articles,and any entry without an article should go. If there is no opposition, or discussion, or interest, I will remove all redlinks and clean this spammy-mess myself in a few days time. Opinions, and help,would be appreciated. -- Alexf(talk) 10:22, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Split proposal
Members of this WikiProject might be interested in a proposal I've started here. Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:29, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

A related title discussion
Input would be appreciated at Talk:Samples_of_serif_typefaces Siuenti (씨유엔티) 22:31, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

RFC regarding WP list article -- SPLC list of hate groups
Interested Project members are invited to comment at Talk:List of organizations designated by the Southern Poverty Law Center as hate groups/Archive 2. Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 14:24, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

List of ski brands
Obvious advertising, possible copyvio and I'd guess COI editing. Should there be criteria? The notes seem an invitation to adverti. Doug Weller talk 19:33, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The parent category appears to be Category:Ski equipment manufacturers; the inclusion criteria should probably be the same and the name should match as well. postdlf (talk) 20:17, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Lists of people by occupation
Lists of people by occupation is being discussed for deletion. Softlavender (talk) 09:02, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

RfC about inclusion of films in Bibliography of Donald Trump
RfC about inclusion of films in Bibliography of Donald Trump:

Discussion at Talk:Bibliography_of_Donald_Trump. Sagecandor (talk) 04:12, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Considerations and proposals at Wikipedia talk:Recent years
The following considerations and proposals are discussed: --George Ho (talk) 02:54, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia talk:Recent years
 * Wikipedia talk:Recent years
 * Wikipedia talk:Recent years
 * Wikipedia talk:Recent years

RfC discussion on May/June events at Talk:2017
There is an RfC discussion on which event that occurred in May/June 2017 to include or exclude (Talk:2017). Join in discussion. --George Ho (talk) 16:39, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

List of video game emulators
Discussions at Talk:List of video game emulators might benefit from input from independent editors from this project. Derek Andrews (talk) 20:15, 4 July 2017 (UTC)