Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women artists/Archive 1

Help needed - please double check anything "bot" related
Hi everyone. I always have a challenge setting up bots for projects. It would be great of some folks, who are comfortable working with bots/json/whatever could double check the recognized content bot, and the User:WP_1.0_bot/Tables/Project/Women_artists page. I hope they are working right! I know sometimes it takes time to get them running for a new project :) Thanks everyone. SarahStierch (talk) 22:24, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Any idea where we go to get the project watchlist fixed?
Both this project and Wikiproject Women scientists seem to have Python errors on their watchlists sometimes ... Djembayz (talk) 04:27, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what's causing that. You might try Village pump (technical). Gobōnobō  + c 05:13, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Scope
Thank you for setting up this wikiproject Sarah!

I'm curious what the scope of this project is going to be. Biographies of women artists, of course, but do we include performance artists as well as visual artists? I'm wondering specifically whether musicians, filmmakers, dancers, and actors would be included here. How about art collectors and patrons of the arts? Architects? Gobōnobō + c 02:11, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there. I consider subjects in the realm of the article of women artists. Creative professionals who work in the fine arts as performance artists, visual artists, installation artists, video artists... I'm open mined about art collectors and patrons.


 * When I created this project, I wanted it to focus on those areas. Not musicians, filmmakers (except video artists and experimental filmmakers), dancers (ballet/hip hop/etc), and actors. SarahStierch (talk) 02:22, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Same here! I have been editing quite a few articles about female Dutch designers (product design, fashion design) on nlwiki lately. I suppose these are out of the scope of this project? I'm absolutely fine with that, just wanted to make this explicit in order to avoid future confusion. Spinster (talk) 10:27, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Articles with notability concerns
I'm placing them here until article alerts starts working (I think I set it up right...we'll see!). These are PROD'd. SarahStierch (talk) 19:58, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Lynne Bernbaum
 * Rachel Bess
 * Peggy Clydesdale
 * Gerri Davis
 * Alicia DeBrincat


 * I've nominated two articles for deletion as discussing non-notable artists (input will be appreciated): Vesna Hocevar, Tjaša Iris. --Eleassar my talk 08:28, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Argh, the main actibvity of this project so far seems to be to delete as many articles about women artists from Wikipedia! PROD'ing is generally worse than AfD'ing, because at least at AfD there is an opportunity for discussion. Sionk (talk) 16:52, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm categorizing and adding articles to the project using the template. Sadly, out of hundreds I've been looking at in a day, a few happen to fail WP:ARTIST upon my brief research. I thought prodding would maybe be better. I can easily remove the PROD and nominate them for deletion. In the end we have to do this, eventually it'll happen, and I'd rather good faith project members do it than others who have little to no knowledge of fine art and arts research. SarahStierch (talk) 18:14, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment See this section of this page to see what I've attempted to do to resolve this. SarahStierch (talk) 18:58, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


 * This all seems contrary to the scope of the project, to reduce systematic bias. I'm a deletionist at heart, but I put in much more thought before trying to delete an article on an under-represented subject. We now have a project here that is systematically going through articles about women artists finding suitable candidates to delete. It doesn't make a lot of sense.
 * I could maybe understand articles being deleted for clear copyright violations, clear promotion and/or clearly unsalvagable articles, otherwise I would suggest tagging them and taking a closer look at some other time. Nominating (particularly PROD'ing) after "brief research" just seems plain counterproductive. Sionk (talk) 22:37, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Resolving the notability/AfD/PROD situation
I've created this page. Will that work for people? Feel free to be bold and organize or come up with a better idea. Add it to your watchlist if so desired. SarahStierch (talk) 18:57, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


 * The article alerts are working now too and list all AfDs and PRODs for articles in this project's scope. It is also possible to watchlist the WikiProject Women artists/Article alerts page. Gobōnobō  + c 21:00, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Great idea! Sionk (talk) 13:18, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Sharing article successes - on the main page or worklist or...?
How should we celebrate article successes? I'd like to eventually see the project have a barnstar/award (but I suck at that type of design), but I'd like to have a place where we can at least post article successes (new articles, expansions, clean ups, etc - outcomes) for the project. Should we start a new page? Transclude something? What do you think? Let's be bold but find a way to brag. SarahStierch (talk) 18:36, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Off the top of my head:
 * Once up and running get an article in the projects section of the The Signpost
 * Nominate FAs at Today's featured article/requests, to increase their exposure
 * Now and then GA has newsletters that get posted on all project participant talk pages. But that involves bots, so don't ask me... hamiltonstone (talk) 11:56, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Good ideas. I hope others can help with this. What about locally in the project? I also run social media for the WikiWomen's Collaborative and do a lot of |GLAM-wiki.org work, so I do hope to promote our work through those areas. But, I'd like to think of some type of place here in the project, too? SarahStierch (talk) 17:15, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Article that needs merger
Looks like this one has been waiting around a while: Anna Hyatt Huntington/Works of Anne Hyatt Huntington if anyone feels like stopping by and merging it :) SarahStierch (talk) 19:50, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Userbox
I made an attempt at creating a userbox for this project at Template:User WikiProject Women artists. I'm not very good at userboxes though. If anyone wants to improve on it, please be my guest. Gobōnobō + c 23:40, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Awesome :) SarahStierch (talk) 01:49, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I just labeled
two articles of photographers as being part of this project, Tina Modotti and Margrethe Mather. I have never done that sort of thing before and the Modotti article was labeled as being a Start-class article and I think it is beyond that. Perhaps someone cam take a look and perhaps change it. I also feel that ranking Modotti as a Low-importance women's history article is shortchanging her by a lot but I am reluctant to start slash and burning other folks labeling since it is not something I do. Again, any takers? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:01, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi there. That's awesome Einar. We're actually not using importance - since they're all important to us :) Feel free to go about being bold. Not having importance levels allows for less slash and burning, as you said, and rating something's class isn't a terrible thing, just means more work to be done. Thanks for being a part of the project. SarahStierch (talk) 00:39, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I almost had no choice but to join the project since you have been lighting my watchlist up like a pin ball game recently. And for that Sarah, (and others) I thank you. Carptrash (talk) 14:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Pre-reviewing articles that fail notability (among other things) before nominating for deletion
Sionk suggested that instead of nominating biographies for deletion, we review them first in a section of this project. I'm not sure how that process would work, really. For example, I'm categorizing articles and tagging them as part of the project and I've found some fairly non-notable stuff (that I've researched myself off of wiki before I nominate them). I'm open minded for things, I just fear being guilt tripped for nominating articles I find that fail notability because they are women biographies, despite it being part of the process that I've been so used to for eight years now (nominating notability fails regardless of gender or subject matter). Hope this makes sense, input welcome. SarahStierch (talk) 02:42, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry for guilt tripping you, that wasn't my intention ;) My comment was triggered by your nomination of a second article that I had tried earlier to improve (with limited success, admittedly). Considering the intention of this project to improve the coverage of woemen in this area of the visual arts, it seems more sensible to look for articles that can be added or improved, rather than highlighted at AfD and culled. Someone else will no doubt eventually come along and take AfD action for these questionable articles, but I don't think it should be us. Sionk (talk) 03:02, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Ha, thanks. I'm pretty sensitive somethings about these things :) If I stumble across anything questionable I'll either post it here or perhaps in the worklist ("immediate attention articles") or something. Hmm... SarahStierch (talk) 03:09, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I've always liked how WikiProject Feminism has article alerts linked from the project page. It is an easy way to keep track of which articles are being listed for AfD or PROD and it is automatically transcluded. Perhaps we can set up article alerts and review the deletion workflows as we go? Is there an active bot request to add the wikiproject template to all articles in certain categories? Gobōnobō  + c 03:14, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Um, no, I didn't know there was a bot request option for that. (I'm so old school with my manual work!) I attempted to do article alerts in the announcements section. I started getting so frustrated I gave up on it for now. What can we do with the "immediate attention" buttons for WikiProjects? I guess prodding is a better idea than anything else. SarahStierch (talk) 03:21, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmm, the bots that I've seen used in the past seem to be inactive. It seems that User:SatyrBot might be active, but the operator isn't too active lately. I'll leave messages with SatyrTN and at WP:BOTREQ to see if we can have a bot add the project banner to articles in defined category sets. Gobōnobō  + c 03:45, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * thanks Gobonobo! SarahStierch (talk) 04:00, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Bot request categories
I'm preparing a request for Anomie's bot at User talk:AnomieBOT. Here are the instructions/caveats/options: This project will need to give explicit consent for the list of categories to be processed. Based on the scope on the project page, here are the categories I think should be included (strike or add categories as you like):

Category:Women artists and most of its subcategories:
 * Category:Women animators
 * Category:Female comics artists
 * Category:Women designers
 * Category:Female DJs
 * Category:Female television directors
 * Category:Women film directors
 * Category:Women illustrators
 * Category:Female music video directors
 * Category:Women painters
 * Category:American women painters‎
 * Category:Australian women painters‎
 * Category:Austrian women painters‎
 * Category:British women painters‎
 * Category:English women painters‎
 * Category:Scottish women painters‎
 * Category:Welsh women painters‎
 * Category:Canadian women painters‎
 * Category:Dutch women painters‎
 * Category:French women painters
 * Category:German women painters‎
 * Category:Italian women painters


 * Category:Women photographers
 * Category:American women photographers


 * Category:Women sculptors
 * Category:American women sculptors
 * Category:British women sculptors‎
 * Category:English women sculptors
 * Category:Scottish women sculptors
 * Category:Syrian women sculptors


 * Category:Women Surrealists
 * Category:Women installation artists
 * Category:Women performance artists
 * Category:American women printmakers
 * Category:Women video artists
 * Category:Women landscape architects
 * Category:Women artists by nationality and its subcategories:
 * Category:American women book artists
 * Category:American women designers
 * Category:American women graphic designers
 * Category:American women illustrators
 * Category:American women performance artists
 * Category:American women printmakers
 * Category:American women video artists
 * Category:Hispanic and Latino American women in the arts
 * Category:American women ceramists
 * Category:Australian women artists
 * Category:Australian women illustrators
 * Category:Austrian women artists
 * Category:Belarusian women artists‎
 * Category:Belgian women artists‎
 * Category:Brazilian women artists
 * Category:British women artists
 * Category:English women artists
 * Category:Canadian women artists
 * Category:Canadian women designers
 * Category:Chilean women artists‎
 * Category:Danish women artists
 * Category:Dutch women artists‎
 * Category:Filipino women artists‎
 * Category:Finnish women artists‎
 * Category:French women artists
 * *Category:Georgian women artists‎
 * Category:German women artists
 * Category:Greek women artists‎
 * Category:Ancient Greek women artists
 * Category:Hungarian women artists
 * Category:Iranian women artists‎
 * Category:Iraqi women artists‎
 * Category:Irish women artists‎
 * Category:Israeli women artists‎
 * Category:Italian women artists‎
 * Category:Japanese women artists
 * Category:Mexican women artists‎
 * Category:New Zealand women artists‎
 * Category:Polish women artists‎
 * Category:American women installation artists
 * Category:Romanian women artists‎
 * Category:Russian women artists
 * Category:German women photographers
 * Category:Singaporean women artists‎
 * Category:South African women artists‎
 * Category:South African women printmakers‎
 * Category:Spanish women artists
 * Category:Swedish women artists‎
 * Category:Swiss women artists‎
 * Category:Ukrainian women artists‎
 * Category:Uruguayan women artists
 * Category:American women textile artists

Importance will not need to be set since the template doesn't use it. Class can be auto-assessed if we like (I believe the bot will just borrow the class being used by other projects). If there are other parameters that we'd like to have the bot auto sign, we'll need to know those as well before the request goes in. Once this is all approved by the project, the bot request can be submitted. Gobōnobō + c 04:53, 28 November 2013 (UTC)


 * AnomieBOT has finished and has added the project's banner to 2691 talk pages. If you see that the bot made any errors, please let me know. Gobōnobō  + c 15:10, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

A note on categories
While I realize the utility of categories for this project, you should also be careful to not fall afoul of WP:EGRS. For example, creating categories like is problematic because this is a last rung category, that divides  by gender when that category is not otherwise divided. Such categories are usually deleted because they tend to ghettoize. While as a high-level category is acceptable, because there are so many sub-categories of  into which people can be placed, I don't think you can make the case that all of the subcategories of  are truly defining and where being a woman has a special relation to each particular style of art as opposed to categories for men - for example,  I think would be hard to defend that women have traditionally been excluded from textile arts; indeed, traditionally, women have been quite involved in this field. As such, I'd encourage you to hesitate before creating new gendered categories - you can use the project template to track women artists you want to track, but our guidelines would not permit a creation of (women + arbitrary type of artist), these have to be handled on a case by case basis and you need to be able to defend that this particular job + gender is truly defining and that the women within are discussed as a group and that gender has a special relation to that particular job. All of the current cats in the scope of this project should be found here Category:Category-Class_Women_artists_articles.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 08:23, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Also, all of these categories should be marked as non-diffusing with Distinguished subcategory; see for an example of how this can be used. I'd be happy to show you how to use category intersection to both identify women artists who aren't yet categorized as such (for categories which should remain), and to identify women artists who are currently ghettoized by gender.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 08:39, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I see that my latest article almost fell down a WP:EGRS hole called Category:American women artists (thanks for rescuing poor Harriet, User:SarahStierch!). Categories are a minefield, and some of us tend to get a little trigger-happy with the HotCat. It's just so easy to add categories, but more, apparently, isn't better. --Sarasays (talk) 21:54, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * From what I can see the articles aren't being ghettoized because they are also in a more general, gender-neutral category i.e. . But I didn't know about the Distinguished subcategory, thanks Obi for pointing that out! Sionk (talk) 22:18, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I just noticed that Grandma Moses and Georgia O'Keeffe had been ghettoized into American women painters - they should not be dropped from American painters just because they are female! Jane (talk) 16:09, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: similary to, the category should be emptied with the contents diffused to the by-century subcats, as well as any more specific painting categories.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 16:41, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Amy Feldman
Participants may be interested in rescuing an article at AfC, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Amy Feldman. It has been slightly improved by the author but declined again by a reviewer. Feldman is an award winner and seems to be an established name. I've made a start, but don't have time to finish the task. Sionk (talk) 13:28, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Interesting stats on women & GLAMS
I just created two lists of artists for leading museums in the Netherlands based on the data in the RKD and hope to create a few more soon. The somewhat depressing result is an average of less than 2% of the names is female. Maybe it's time to complain about this for your local GLAMs? They probably have their local female artists in their collections, but they do not publish this! The art is there, it's just not represented in the databases. At first I thought it was just these two museums, but even the Rijksmuseum in Amsterdam scores pretty much the same with 32 female artists out of 1205 names. I will be publishing that one shortly. See List of painters in the collection of the Frans Hals Museum and List of artists in the collection of the Mauritshuis. Jane (talk) 12:06, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Would like to be involved / join
I hope it is ok i added myself as a member. I noticed that some of the women artist from our list here Category:Israeli women artists made the WikiProject Women artists list and some did not. Should I add the template for the project to the rest or is there a reason they were not included? Drkup(IMJ) (talk) 17:39, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi! Great to see you here and welcome. Please do add the talk page templates and categories as necessary to any articles about women artists that fall under the project criteria at the top of the project page. SarahStierch (talk) 20:02, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Art by women
I've started working on the following articles:
 * Feminist art
 * Feminist art movement
 * Feminist art movement in the United States

... and it seems to be working well to tackle this together. I changed the feminist art and feminist art movement redirects into their own articles because they linked to the feminist art movement in the United States.

Why I'm posting something here is:
 * I am seeing feminist art as a place to explore the works themselves
 * feminist art movement as an article with a (hopefully) world-wide view. I say hopefully because so much is written from a US/Europe perspective.
 * and expanding the US article, which had just touched on the initial developments in the 1970s.

Does my take on the three articles make sense? Before I go to far afield, it would be great to ensure I'm headed in the right direction. If you have the opportunity to look at this, that would be great!-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 00:11, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, I also created Template:Feminist art movement in the United States, which is still a work in progress.-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 00:14, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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Images for articles about women artists
I am blown away by the lack of images, unless I'm just not searching correctly, for women artists. Any ideas for how we can get more images to commons would be great!-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 00:15, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * You can either make a request for an image, on the Talk page, or (if for example there is an important work of art which needs illustrating) find a non-free image. I recently added a non-free image to the new Aleah Chapin article, it was one that had been widely used online in news reports about her. Sionk (talk) 00:44, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks! That helps. Any thoughts about the feminist art, movement, movement in the US that I posted just about this one?-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 03:17, 14 January 2014 (UTC)


 * The Non-free content police are (often quite rightly) looking closely at the use of images in general articles about art. It looks like you are the new world expert in the subject of US feminist art, judging by your recent edits! If there are a small handful of very important, key works that represent highlights of the movement, you will be justified in using non-free content (in my view). Though as a rule, non-free images of important artworks are best placed in the article about the artist (or the artwork).
 * Images that are out-of-copyright tend to be for artists that are long dead. The feminist movement dates from the last 45 years, so unless a copyright holder has waived their copyright then finding decent free images may be difficult.
 * It will be a shame if there are no suitable images at all on Wikimedia Commons, but I guess that reflects the situation we're trying to address, a bias in interests on Wikipedia. Sionk (talk) 03:46, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the distinction between images used for the artist's articles vs. art movement topics. I've posted the request for images and ran the tool mentioned in the posted request, and as you said I really didn't come up with anything. I am beginning to wonder if it makes sense to reach out to artists and organizations (A.I.R. Gallery, Women's Interart Center, etc.) directly and ask if they can help out.--04:15, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Here is the explanatory link to the Commons template for artists who died after their copyright cut-off date: Commons:Template:URAA_artist. For such artists, permission from themselves or their descendants is needed via OTRS in order to publish pictures on Commons that can be shared by other projects than just the English Wikipedia. Jane (talk) 08:21, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * And as a footnote to that, here is a link to a work that either has an unknown creation date, or which was dated after the USRAA 1923 cutoff date and before the moment that the work entered the public domain in it's source country: Young woman with a hat. Such images can be hosted in Canada on Wikilivres and linked to from articles, but cannot be shown as a thumbnail. Jane (talk) 08:38, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for the information.-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 15:02, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Prepped page for archival
I've formatted the talk page for archival, please feel free to modify it as you wish! :)

Good luck with the initiative,

&mdash; Cirt (talk) 17:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

WP Countering Systemic Bias in the Signpost
Comment below is reposted. Djembayz (talk) 22:58, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Countering Systemic Bias for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 00:52, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Art and Feminism edit-a-thons
They are taking place across the US (so far, but it'd be nice to have more international events) in Feb. I'm going to be doing a Bay Area event. Please connect and get involved! Meetup/ArtAndFeminism. SarahStierch (talk) 17:41, 10 December 2013 (UTC)


 * This article in ARTnews - "101 Women Artists Who Got Wikipedia Pages This Week" - may be of interest. Adding them all to the list of new articles may become a full-time job!! Sionk (talk) 20:27, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

No importance
For now, there isn't a category Category:Women artists articles by importance, and associated sub-categories. see Category:Women_scientists_articles_by_importance for an example of how this is done at wikiproject women scientists. Is there a reason this project doesn't have an importance scale? It would seem to be a useful way to focus work, or at least catalogue the most high profile/important artist pages.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 15:44, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

The image/photograph posted in Wikipedia is insulting Asian American women in United States
I want to report the photograph "Miru Kim at Lodz Biennale 2010, Poland" posted in the article "Miru Kim" is an insult to Asian American women in United States. Miru Kim is an artist. She was born in Stoneham, Massachusetts and was raised in South Korea. She took part in the series, "The Pig That Therefore I am". In this series, she took the pictures of herself nude and immersed herself amongst the pigs. In her next video performance "I Like Pigs and Pigs Like Me" in Miami, she got naked and slept with the pigs in front of the carmera. Would you say this is not an insult to Asian American woman in United States? I feel this is really an insult to Asian American woman in United States. That photograph posted in Wikipedia is from her series "The Pig That Therefore I Am" that she was naked inside the pigs. Please look at it and see what's wrong in it. This is a photograph of a naked Asian American woman pretending as she was a pig. You may ask other artists, authors, editors, or even Miru Kim herself to look at it. I would like to ask Asian American women right in United States for advice if this doesn't work. Thank you for understanding.

61.18.56.147 (talk) 19:21, 1 March 2014 (UTC)Asian American in California
 * if you find the image insulting you may want to take it up with the artist. It's her photo, she chose to do it, and I very much doubt she cares that Wikipedia is giving her series on pigs more exposure. Of course, adding as well a normal portrait of the artist herself would be reasonable if you can find one.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 20:36, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I've just looked at her website, she seems to be regularly naked in her art - looking over a city, walking through a field, bathing herself in mud, etc. I don't think she's the prude type. Her website has a long statement explaining the pig series which is one of her more recent works and what it represents,, perhaps you could read it to understand what she was trying to say with this pig story.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 20:43, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi 61.18.56.147. The image has been flagged as missing evidence of permission and will likely be deleted after March 8th. I would venture that the image is not intended to insult Asian American woman in United States though. In her artist statement, she explores the nature of skin and humanity's relationship with pigkind; she speaks of the "exteriorized memories on our cutaneous garment" and compares the nakedness of a pig to that of her art. But she never mentions being a Korean American woman. Maybe, like much good art, the work reflects one's own predispositions. gobonobo  + c 05:43, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Womens art editathon at Goldsmiths College, New Cross London this Saturday
An Womens Art editathon is being organised in London this weekend - March 8, 2014. It will start with a training session for new editors at 11am then after lunch we will start editing. If you can come then please sign up on the linked page. (It's a wikimedia UK page which for some arcane WMF reason can't use your wikipedia account to log in). We will have experienced wikipedia editors available there to help but if anyone here would be available to help online that would be good too. filceolaire (talk) 13:15, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
 * You forgot to mention it's International Women's Day. All members of this list should try to do at least one little thing today onwiki somewhere: upload or add a picture to an artice, do some catagorizing, write a stub, edit some old Britannica entries on Wikisource,... Jane (talk) 10:05, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Invitation to User Study
Would you be interested in participating in a user study? We are a team at University of Washington studying methods for finding collaborators within a Wikipedia community. We are looking for volunteers to evaluate a new visualization tool. All you need to do is to prepare for your laptop/desktop, web camera, and speaker for video communication with Google Hangout. We will provide you with a Amazon gift card in appreciation of your time and participation. For more information about this study, please visit our wiki page (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Finding_a_Collaborator). If you would like to participate in our user study, please send me a message at Wkmaster (talk) 13:40, 8 March 2014 (UTC).

New articles
I've added a New articles section on the main page, I couldn't see anything similar here yet. Feel free to add your new articles here, it will be an indication of the progress we're making and an opportunity for other project members to improve the articles. If there is a better suggestion of where to put this/how to do it then I'm all ears! Sionk (talk) 12:58, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for adding that Sionk. AlexNewArtBot is a bot that automatically generates a list of articles likely to be in the purview of a wikiproject. It might fit well in that section, though I'm not sure how to set up the rules to make it work. Gobōnobō  + c 12:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I've never come across another project that identifies new articles using a bot. But open to suggestions. I'm not a 'bot' expert myself either :D Sionk (talk) 13:06, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Good idea! I'll give it a try.-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 14:17, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I started the process here, but am having a hard time figuring out how to write the rules, but have asked for assistance. Hopefully there will be feedback soon.-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 15:24, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Interesting to see the results of the BOT, though it has only picked up one of the January articles that have been added manually! And picked up a category (If we go with this method maybe the section should be renamed "New content"). Does it pick up articles that have been created from redirects? Sionk (talk) 10:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

It's all about the rules... and someone helped me set those up because it was way too complicated for me to figure out, and yes, I would expect that it absolutely may need tweaking to get it humming. The query is only going to pick up new articles from the past 14 days, so any articles written before then won't get picked up. Good question about articles created from redirects. I'll take these back and see if we can make some tweaks.-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 11:01, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Ethel Sands was the only one that should have been picked up by the query.-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 11:10, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Update: Ethel Sands was picked up now, it was user error (me) - I didn't say that she was an artist in the beginning of the intro. I think the category issue has been resolved - the rules were edited after our postings and I don't see the category now. I have a question in about whether a redirect is made to a new article is picked up by the logic and don't have an answer yet.


 * Question: Would it be helpful to move the new articles to the "new / improved articles list" on WikiProject Women artists/Worklist before they roll off (since it's a 14 day snapshot)?
 * (I saw that some of my new articles were getting added to the "Articles to be expanded/improved" list, so I created that "new / improved articles list", under the premise that any article can be improved. But the articles in this category are not tagged, are fully cited, and were subject to an exhaustive search to find content about the subject.)
 * -- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 01:45, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

It's a shame the ticker-tape only records the last 14 days, but interesting all the same! It's not entirely accurate, I can see an article about a bloke and at least one music 'artist'. I see several articles have already been nom'd for deletion, argh! From my point of view I'd prefer to keep the manual list of new articles, with the bot feed as a useful backup tool. If any of us spot any decent articles on the list, we can add them to the manual tally (which will at least hang around for more than 2 weeks). Sionk (talk) 04:17, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The search results at least get a nice list going, maybe we could take the "found" articles and put them in the manual list and collapse the search results. I'll take a stab and see what you think.


 * Regarding the redirects, the logic picks up "new pages" and so changes to an existing page, like a redirect page are not picked up. See User talk:Bamyers99/Archive 1.-- CaroleHenson  ( talk ) 15:02, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Nice idea! Thanks for creating that section. SarahStierch (talk) 20:11, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Wow, there's a flood of new articles today, courtesey (I think) of the Meetup/ArtAndFeminism! Sionk (talk) 02:41, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi all! I created a new article yesterday on Pat Ward Williams and would love to have some other users take a look at it, make improvements, give it a quality rating, etc. I only managed to put something basic together, but I do think she's a notable artist and it will be worth safeguarding the article against deletion. Thanks for your time! Arthistorygrrl (talk) 19:09, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Membership
Hello! How do I become a member? Thanks!15:07, 8 April 2014 (UTC)Unsung Artists (talk)
 * Hello back! You become a member by signing the project page. There isn't a whole lot you can do besides that. You can also add this discussion page to your watchlist to keep abreast of various issues. Jane (talk) 09:27, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Problem with female categories
As some of you may recall, it was decided to keep the "female" categories on the English Wikipedia so we could track the female biographies in various groups. The problem is when the main category is dropped and suddenly the biography disappears from the radar of the main Wikiprojects. This was most recently discussed for the category of "Women novelists". The same thing applies here. If someone is in then they should be in at least one non-female category for painting as well, such as. One category is for "findability", the other is for tracking. Oh and please don't forget to check that all women artists have correctly filled-in Wikidata items! Thanks, Jane (talk) 09:27, 17 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Well said! There's guidance about ghettoization at WP:EGRS and a useful tool here - WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias/Gender_bias_task_force.
 * I think it also helps to put the project template on the Talk page at the same time as the  template. After all, women artists are of general interest as artists, not only because they are female. Just my opinion. Sionk (talk) 10:33, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * if you are editing these cats it may be useful to place the Distinguished subcategory template on the cats to note that they are meant to be non-diffusing. Also re 'promoting' the women to the main cat, actually in most cases you shouldn't do this - rather you should ensure that the article is in diffusing sibling categories. For example should not have many, if any, bios, they should all be in the diffusing subcats (eg genre, century) as well as any relevant non-diffusing ones. This is more explicitly laid out at  but the structure here is the same. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 12:07, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Well it would be great if someone could make a bot that walks down the entire Category:Women tree and makes sure those subcats are all distinguished then! I think part of the problem is that since the Art&Feminism editathon we have a lot of new material that is categorized more carefully under the "Women" subcat tree than under the "Claim to fame" subcat tree. Jane (talk) 15:01, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Tagging the cats as distinguished is one thing, but not all that important (more a "if you have time in passing to do it") - OTOH, de-ghettoizing is important, at least the outside world seems to think it is, but it's a pain, and the vast majority of editors here, in spite of all of the drama around American women novelists, literally do not care or don't seem to make the effort to care, perhaps because as that algorithm shows, non-diffusing categories are *really* tricky to get right and avoid ghettoization. But I've thought for a long time whether it would be possible to have an algorithm that deghettoizes, but I think it would require too much contextual knowledge and would be rather tricky to code. If you want to automatically find ghettoized women, this is a little easier if you're smart with category intersection - for example, this |3&negcats=17th-century+British+painters%E2%80%8E|3%0D%0A18th-century+British+painters|3%0D%0A19th-century+British+painters|3%0D%0A20th-century+British+painters|3%0D%0A21st-century+British+painters|3%0D%0ABritish+Baroque+painters%E2%80%8E|3%0D%0ABritish+watercolourists%E2%80%8E|3%0D%0ABritish+genre+painters|3%0D%0ABritish+Impressionist+painters|3%0D%0ABritish+landscape+painters|3%0D%0ABritish+neoclassical+painters|3%0D%0ABritish+portrait+painters|3%0D%0ABritish+Realist+painters%E2%80%8E|3%0D%0ABritish+romantic+painters|3&sortby=title&doit=1 scan will give you all British women painters who aren't in any of the diffusing sibling categories (excepting "British painters" and the subcats "English painters", etc). It's a start, and gives a list of about 180 British women painters who are somehow ghettoized. If we were to look across the whole tree I would estimate that the numbers are in the thousands. There are also probably many "women" artists who aren't categorized as such, you can also use cat intersection to find those.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 15:44, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
 * All the more reason to properly get all of these women correctly documented on Wikidata! Though the tools aren't here yet, I do firmly believe that this mess will become manageable quickly thanks to Wikidata. Jane (talk) 07:29, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Systemic bias in Art History: Kehinde Wiley's work
Hi all, I suppose one of the reasons we are here is because of the issues discussed during the Art&Feminism editathons in February (I assume most of us found our way here from that). Anyway I was poking around the works of Kehinde Wiley for his series on black women called An Economy of Grace and I wish there was some way we could wikify his work (all copyrighted, though the originals that inspired them are obviously all all PD). I wonder if we could set up a little KW writing challenge sort of like the way the Amical Wikimedia project is doing for Miró? See this page I created for them: Dutch interiors. You can write up the article based on the original, and then link to the Kehinde Wiley one. Only problem is....I don't have a list of the KW works!!! Any thoughts? Jane (talk) 09:58, 3 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Sounds a bit excessive, to write individual articles about each of a relatively young (and lesser known) artist's works (if I understand you correctly). On the other hande, it makes good sense to try and find free images of the works if possible. Sionk (talk) 10:47, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
 * well the articles could be a way of featuring the originals, but also to feature the dresses and the models, all fascinating, I think! Jane (talk) 12:22, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014
You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride 2014, a campaign to create and improve LGBT-related content at Wikipedia and its sister projects. The campaign will take place throughout the month of June, culminating with a multinational edit-a-thon on June 21. Meetups are being held in some cities, or you can participate remotely. All constructive edits are welcome in order to contribute to Wikipedia's mission of providing quality, accurate information. Articles related to LGBT art and artists may be of particular interest. You can also upload LGBT-related images by participating in Wikimedia Commons' LGBT-related photo challenge. You are encouraged to share the results of your work here. Happy editing! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:06, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Women Artists At Wikimania 2014
Hi all,

My name is Adi Khajuria and I am helping out with Wikimania 2014 in London.

One of our initiatives is to create leaflets to increase the discoverability of various wikimedia projects, and showcase the breadth of activity within wikimedia. Any kind of project can have a physical paper leaflet designed - for free - as a tool to help recruit new contributors. These leaflets will be printed at Wikimania 2014, and the designs can be re-used in the future at other events and locations.

This is particularly aimed at highlighting less discoverable but successful projects, e.g:

• Active Wikiprojects: Wikiproject Medicine, WikiProject Video Games, Wikiproject Film

• Tech projects/Tools, which may be looking for either users or developers.

• Less known major projects: Wikinews, Wikidata, Wikivoyage, etc.

• Wiki Loves Parliaments, Wiki Loves Monuments, Wiki Loves ____

• Wikimedia thematic organisations, Wikiwomen’s Collaborative, The Signpost

For more information or to sign up for one for your project, go to: Project leaflets Adikhajuria (talk) 16:20, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Past Masters partnership
Hey All. At the Wikipedia Library, we just opened up a partnership with Intelex's Past Masters. Included in the partnership is access to scholarly editions of a number of Women Writers, including all of the scholarly apparatus that makes great source material for writing articles. For more information of what's in the collection, see their list of works. I would like to encourage anyone interested to apply for access at WP:Past Masters!Sadads (talk) 15:57, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

FYI - new series of edit-a-thons
Hi all, just wanted to give you a heads up about a new series of edit-a-thons (or something akin to edit-a-thons) regarding women artists in LA! See Meetup/LA/Wik-Ed Women and here (Facebook event). The organizer isn't too experienced yet with Wikipedia editing yet, but she's really enthusiastic about getting more people involved. She is envisioning the series more as learners helping each other to gain experience together. Just FYI, and let me (or Simone -- I'm not sure of her username, but she's a host of the Facebook event) know if you're interested in getting involved! Calliopejen1 (talk) 22:07, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Fall 2014 Art+Feminism IEG & PEG Grants Notification
Hello All, the Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon organizers have prepared an IEG grant, and a PEG grant this week for the fall Wikimedia Foundation grant scholarships. These grants will fund several NYC training sessions, another major international Edit-a-thon, and the creation of infrastructure to support this year, and years going forward. The project is seeking community comment / discussion and endorsement signatures (section at the bottom of the page) to help complete the grant process. We encourage you to take a look at these grants, and offer your feedback and/or your endorsement signature if you feel the project worthy. On behalf of the other organizers. --Theredproject (talk) 01:10, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel
I've started a new article on the book by Janice Dickinson &mdash; No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel.
 * No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel

Feel free to help out with additional secondary sources, and/or chip in with collaborative discussion at Talk:No Lifeguard on Duty: The Accidental Life of the World's First Supermodel.

Thank you, &mdash; Cirt (talk) 06:39, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live!


Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.

Harej (talk) 16:58, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

New article needing work
At WikiProject Articles for creation I've just accepted an article on the artist Jane Rosen. However it is more of a resume than an encyclopedia article at this point. It also needs categories. Thanks. StarryGrandma (talk) 19:11, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Also Emma Smith Gillies, just accepted and needs an infobox and categories. StarryGrandma (talk) 19:39, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Question at the Village Pump
There is a question at the Village Pump that should be of interest to this group:

Risk in identifying as a woman editor on Wikipedia

--Lightbreather (talk) 02:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikiproject Artworks by Women
Hi all, in preparing for the Art & Feminism edit-a-thon over the weekend of 7 & 8 March, I am creating lists of artworks by women because these are missing for even the greatest women artists. There is also a remarkable lack of articles on artworks. This project deals with the Women artists themselves and it's great to see the progress, but now it is time to flesh those articles out with infrastructure to support individual articles about notable artworks by those women. I would like to see a Category:Artworks by women per century. What do you think? I think we need a new (sub)project for this, as this one is just for the biographies, and the Visual Arts project is massive. I would like to fork the Visual Arts project into a "Artworks by Women" subproject, aimed mostly at the technical nature of making lists of artworks that are indexed here, on Commons, and on Wikidata for reuse in other projects. See as an example List of works by Mary Cassatt. Jane (talk) 08:49, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I will set this up and report back here with a link from the front page for ease of reference. Jane (talk) 09:45, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Interesting read: WikiProject_X/Stories. Apparently User:Rosiestep created WikiProject Women writers and then after that widened the scope to include works by women writers. That's a good idea, so I will do the same here. Jane (talk) 10:47, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Step one is done: WikiProject Women artists/Lists of works. Next up: WikiProject Women artists/Artwork articles Jane (talk) 10:16, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Presentation proposal for Wikimania 2015
Hello! and I have developed a draft proposal for a talk to be presented at Wikimania 2015. It's titled, How to pick up more women -- as in more women editors and more women's biographies. A friendly FYI... I have mentioned this WikiProject in the proposal! The proposal review process has begun and there's no guarantee that this proposal will be accepted. That's where you come in. Please review our proposal and give us feedback. Ultimately, we hope you add your name to the signup at the bottom of the proposal which signifies you're interested in the talk (it does not signify you'll be attending the event). Thank you! --Rosiestep (talk) 21:30, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Open invitation to the writing challenge
Anyone reading here is invited to the Meetup/ArtAndFeminism/Challenge on 7 & 8 March. Jane (talk) 09:45, 19 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you for setting that up Jane. In preparation for the event, I've compiled a bunch of lists for feminist and women artists. Check out User:Gobonobo/Gender Gap red list/Artists if you're looking for ideas for new articles. gobonobo  + c 07:41, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, and thanks, I'll take a look. Jane (talk) 13:17, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Women architects?
Is there a reason architecture is not on the list of arts professions included under this WikiProject? Women who are architects have also operated under conditions of under-recognition throughout history.Alafarge (talk) 20:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Whether or not architects are considered to be "artists" in this sort of context has not, apparently, been delved into. I say No.  Wikipedia says "The common usage in both everyday speech and academic discourse is a practitioner in the visual arts only. " ''' Carptrash (talk) 22:06, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * As the person who launched the List of female architects article back in the day, I'd have no qualms with this project taking women architects under its wing. Obviously the modern architect role encompasses a far broader scope than visual arts but it is still a creative profession. This project was inspired by the Women Scientists project and architecture probably falls more towards the arts than the sciences (though with heavy doses of construction, engineering and project management). I can't imagine any member of WikiProject Women artists would have any qualms with monitoring and supporting articles about women architects! Sionk (talk) 23:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * So, . .  .  . . . . . . .........  how about dancers?  Culinary arts?? Martial arts? Actors? I am not trying to disrespect architects but starting to include then might (opinion) lead to all sorts of issues later on.  Actually, more "sooner" than "later." Carptrash (talk) 23:49, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Who holds the last say on the visual arts definition, and where? I say yes to architects, dancers, and any other arts that fall outside the hugely popular "actress/singer" categories. Jane (talk) 08:41, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I suggested this as something practical, in the spirit of the project. I didn't suggest it as a semantic debate on the definition of "artist". To include designers in the scope of the project doesn't seem to be a great leap. I'd agree with Jane023 that actors and singers do not suffer from neglect on Wikipedia, so don't need an additional support project. Sionk (talk) 21:47, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I totally agree with you and uh, looks it's just you and me here these days, so go for it! I think I will set up a structure for artworks myself, I first need to figure out where to set it up. I think under some subheading of the arts portal. Jane (talk) 09:43, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Really weird but I noticed that this Wikiproject didn't "hang" under any portal at all. I just made it a subproj of Arts, Visual Arts, and Biography. Jane (talk) 10:51, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
 * So what did we decide about architects? I am still here, just in the midst of some medical (eye) issues that make editing difficult. Carptrash (talk) 14:51, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Um, yes? I'll add it explicitly in the top intro. Jane (talk) 19:09, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Ed "Editing Women's Studies" Brochure: Feedback requested
Hello all, Wiki Ed will be distributing a brochure to Women's Studies courses in the USA and Canada that edit Wikipedia as part of their classroom assignments. It will also be available on-wiki and as a pdf for anyone to read or use. I'm hoping to get some feedback on the brochure's contents -- if anyone has some time to review it, I've uploaded a Wiki draft here. We're looking to have it ready to print by March 3, so feedback would be most useful before then. Thanks everyone!

Eryk (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:20, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Categorizing women engravers
There's new Category:Women engravers, and it would be great if anyone would go through existing subcategories (by nation, by century) of Category:Engravers to identify women & add them to the category. Only Category:21st-century engravers has been covered (yielding 4 women out of 19). :) -- do  ncr  am  23:53, 9 March 2015 (UTC)‎

Pageview stats
After a recent request, I added WikiProject Women artists to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at WikiProject Women artists/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the Tool Labs tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 04:37, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Cool! Thanks User:Mr.Z-man!! -- Missvain (talk) 06:55, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Draughtsmen, Drawers (artists), Drawing artists?

 * Category:Draughtsmen is the current category for artists who draw. We should have a non-diffusing subcategory for the women there, but what would it be named? Category:Draughtswomen seems obvious, but could create confusion when subjects are placed in both categories. Perhaps the whole tree should be renamed Category:Drafters? gobonobo  + c 18:28, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I have no clue. I don't know anything about drafting and what proper terminology is. Perhaps social media or the article about "Drafting" can help solve that dilemma. Missvain (talk) 18:40, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Weird. I totally assumed that "draughtsmen" in the context of artists meant draftspersons, i.e. those who draw building plans, standing at drafting tables in architectural firms.  Or there is draughts, some Victorian-era game or something, so it could mean players of that game.  "Draughtsmen" is not common English, at least not in the U.S., and is not going to be understood by most readers to mean artists whose medium is drawing.  I wouldn't want to help coin "draughtswomen" as a term that is only clearly meaning female persons but not clear about what the "draughts" part is about.  "Sketch artists" doesn't work...one can sketch in paint or pastel etc.  "Drawers", no...  but there's a Commons:Category:Drawers (artists), oddly.  I tend to think "Drawing artists" (and "female drawing artists"?) would be best...google search provides a lot of proper hits on "drawing artists".  Deciding this is a matter for a Categories For Discussion (wp:CFD) discussion in wikipedia and connecting to the Commons category too.  With considerations here including that draughtsmen is defective both for ambiguity about draughts, and also considering it uses "men" perhaps unnecessarily, rather than gender-neutral options like "person" or "artist". -- do  ncr  am  15:43, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That category is fraught with problems. Draughtsman redirects to Drafter on Wikipedia, which is certainly my understanding of what a draughtsman/draftsman is. The article Drafter (which should be the main article for the category) is clear the name does not extend to anyone who picks up a pencil. Sionk (talk) 18:46, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, the Drafter article is very clear that way, it's about technical drawing, not art. It has a hatnote For visual artist who specializes in artistic drawings, see drawing.  And drawing article is very clear in the opposite direction, that anyone using a pencil to draw is a draftsman / draughtsman, completely contradicting Drafter!  Browsing around i find my way to Wiktionary's definition of draughtsman (plural draughtsmen):
 * A person skilled at drawing engineering or architectural plans.
 * (obsolete) A book illustrator.
 * A piece in the game of draughts (checkers).
 * (obsolete) One who drinks drams; a tippler.
 * So I learn a draughtsman is not a checkers-like-game-player, but rather a checker piece in the game. Hmm, I tend to think only "drawing artist" is clear, but it is not in common use.  English language simply seems to lack a good word or term;  I wonder if / expect that other languages might do a lot better.  That's all for me on this.  Thanks Gobonobo, Missvain, Sionk for your comments. cheers, -- do  ncr  am  04:23, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Categories, List-articles, and Navigation templates needed
Hi, I find my way here though because I am interested in architects, have started a number of women architect articles, and discussion at Talk:List of women architects pointed me here, about where article requests should be kept.

But I hope you don't mind my suggesting here that it might be good to set up more structure, in categories and list-articles and navigation templates. There's a great guideline Categories, lists, and navigation templates which explains how these are complementary. For many women artist categories there can be a corresponding list-article which lists all the articles in the category, plus redlinks where articles are needed. And plus "black-links" to mention women artists who are somewhat notable but don't obviously need articles, e.g. a notable woman architect who is a principal of a notable architectural firm and is covered well enough in the firm's article.

This structure would serve to link between women artist articles, and increase ways readers could navigate to and between them, and I think it would invite/facilitate more development. For each of the major creative professional types covered by this WikiProject and listed on the main page, I think there could/should be a corresponding category and perhaps subcategories, and also there could/should be a corresponding list-article (or a section within a bigger list-article).

Some more specific suggestions:
 * For "Visual arts (i.e. painting, sculpture, photography)"
 * Maybe this WPWA item should explicitly list out all or more of the subtypes that appear in Category:Visual artists (such as Graphic designers, Illustrators, and Cartoonists) and also list out the visual-arts ones that appear in Category:Artists by genre (such as Mosaic artists and Landscape artists, but maybe not Folk artists and Erotic artists which might include non-visual artists)
 * Within Category:Visual artists there is no Category:Women visual artists (which could include subcategories Category:Women painters, Category:Women sculptors, etc.)
 * Within Category:Lists of visual artists there is no List of women visual artists (which could include List of women painters, List of women sculptors, etc. as sections within it, or could link out to any split-out ones)
 * Within Category:Painters there is Category:Women painters but no List of women painters (a redlink, currently, perhaps should be a redirect to a "Painters" section within a List of women visual artists)
 * For sculptors there is Category:Women sculptors but no List of women sculptors (a redlink, currently, perhaps should be a redirect to a "Sculptors" section within a List of women visual artists)
 * For Category:Graphic designers there is no Category:Women graphic designers and no List of women graphic designers (a redlink, currently, perhaps should be a redirect to a "Graphic designers" section of a List of women visual artists)
 * The same can be done for the other bigger types of visual artists, maybe Category:Illustrators and some others
 * For smaller types of visual artists, perhaps Category:Mosaic artists, maybe there should NOT be a category like Category:Women mosaic artists if it would be tiny, but rather the mosaic artists who are women should be put into bigger Category:Women visual artists.
 * Perhaps Category:Photographers is not obviously part of "visual arts" and should be split out in this WPWA list of types, because Category:Visual artists does not include Category:Photographers? Existing, however, are Women in photography and List of women photographers and Category:Women photographers.


 * The WPWA items also include printmaking (should be Printmakers?) and Illustrators and Engravers out at the main level. Maybe these should be included within visual artists instead?  Anyhow:
 * For Category:Printmakers, there is Category:Women printmakers but no List of women printmakers (a redlink, currently, perhaps should be a redirect to a "Printmakers" section within a List of women visual artists)
 * For Category:Illustrators, there is Category:Women illustrators but no List of women illustrators (a redlink, currently, perhaps should be a redirect to an "Illustrators" section within a List of women visual artists). Also since subcategory Category:Children's book illustrators might be very large, perhaps there should be a subcategory Category:Women children's book illustrators created?
 * For Category:Engravers there is now Category:Women engravers but no List of women engravers (a redlink, currently, perhaps should be a redirect to an "Engravers" section within a List of women visual artists)


 * What about Category:Folk artists and Category:Erotic artists and others within Category:Artists by genre which are not necessarily visual artists?


 * Then also in the WPWA list are:
 * Textile arts (should be Textile artists?) and maybe should be up within visual arts?
 * Craftmakers (basketry, pottery, textiles, etc.) which should be detailed out as Basket-weavers, Potters, etc. and maybe should be up within visual arts?


 * And in the WPWA list there are non-visual(?) arts:


 * Video art (not the same as being a filmmaker or actress, but for films passing Bechdel test then yes)
 * Installation art
 * Performance art
 * Experimental film


 * For Category:Architects, there is List of women architects and Category:Women architects


 * Lastly as "We are also happy to welcome women arts patrons and art collectors", I guess for completeness that:
 * Within Category:Art collectors there oughta be a Category:Women art collectors
 * Within Category:Patrons of the arts there oughta be a Category:Women patrons of the arts
 * Within the Patrons subcategory Category:Patrons of art there oughta be a Category:Women patrons of art
 * Within the Patrons subcategory Category:Patrons of literature there oughta be a Category:Women patrons of literature
 * Within the Patrons subcategory Category:Patrons of music there oughta be a Category:Women patrons of music

About navigation templates, there could/should be:
 * a nav template Lists of women artists to link to, and appear at bottom of, each separate list-article
 * maybe some nav templates?

Whew! Does this make sense, at all? Building structure like these lists, categories, nav-templates can be put onto a To-Do list and done by anyone in the project who feels inclined. It can be sort of fun work setting these up and is useful I think. Hope this helps? -- do ncr  am  03:02, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I wrote too much more out, sorry, so collapsed the above. Watch Draft:List of woman artists, to become List of women artists, sometime soon. Comments welcome. Cheers, -- do ncr  am  15:06, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you doncram. I agree that the project would benefit from more structure and that it would facilitate more involvement. I know that there has been a similar drive to create matching lists for categories over at WikiProject Women writers. In the past I've been reluctant to create gender-based categories as they tend to be brought to CfD quite a bit. I hope that category intersection is implemented someday, but that might be rather far off. gobonobo  + c 15:06, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Wow, that's a really overwhelming list of stuff. At this point I'm pretty burnt out on developing categories, especially since I created/categorized most of the women artists on Wikipedia after I created the project :) I did enough work in a one month period that it probably takes some people a year to do. I think it's a great idea for people to help with these things, just be forewarned - yes, many of them could be nominated for deletion, which is something I ran into. I'm actually a fan of having women artists in a gendered and non-gendered category - as a researcher and a curator, it makes my job easier when I can just click on "Women painters" :). I love the idea of a nav template. I also don't think we should categorize things under "visual" or "non-visual" arts. I'd rather just leave them all be as their own special selves. Seriously, I strongly advise against that. Because many things can be crossover - I know video artists who would consider their work visual art and basketweavers who would say they are not visual artists but craftswomen. We should avoid getting too meta about things, it just makes it less fun and too nit picky. Also, we do have a TON of people writing content about women artists, so I don't think participation is a problem at all. The only thing is that only hardcore Wikipedians care about categories and stuff like this - most people don't. :) Thanks for the interest and think it's great to see things evolve, as long as it doesn't get "too meta." Missvain (talk) 16:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, upon consideration, I agree fully about not splitting categories of women by "visual" vs. "non-visual" artists, and I won't do that...it would seem artificial or too "meta" or something like that. However I notice and like how the artist article is nice in its intro about defining "artist" primarily as regards visual-type arts, separate from entertainers, musicians, dancers, and other performance artists, and also separate from writers though "artist" can be used in such contexts also.  This wikiproject is self-defined to be about visual-type artists plus some of the other types.  It is self-defined to cover performance art (of the interdisciplinary kind?) but not other performing artists (not musicians, not dancers).  It is self-defined to cover experimental film artists but not other film artists?  It does not cover writers, who are covered by WikiProject Women writers.  I personally think it's fine for this Wikiproject to define its scope how it has been defined so far, or however this group likes, even if the chosen scope doesn't match up very neatly with trees of categories or trees of lists of artists in mainspace.
 * For mainspace lists, though, I'd like for List of women artists to be defined as primarily about artists of the visual arts types, subsuming lists of sculptors, painters, engravers, etc. But disjoint from List of women musicians (redlink?), List of women dancers (redlink?), List of female performing artists (redlink?), List of women architects, List of women writers.  Am "drafting" Draft:List of women artists that way, anyhow.  Happy to discuss that list's scope here and/or at Draft talk:List of women artists. -- do  ncr  am  15:43, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Lists such as List of women musicians are clearly out of the question because they would be so long as to be meaningless. I created List of women architects, for example, because there is plenty of debate and study about why so few women remain in architecture (therefore the women who achieve great success in the field are particularly worthy of note). There has to be a sensible approach, rather than creating articles/lists/categories just for the sake of it. Sionk (talk) 18:11, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks all for your thoughts. Gobonobo's link to proposal at Category intersection is interesting and is either sobering or encouraging:   if the MediaWiki software were changed, then all the categorizing and cross-categorizing would be easy/done, but maybe it won't happen anytime soon.  Missvain, thanks.  I have never been a great fan of categories and honestly don't really care about them.  I do like lists and have been active in developing lists about historic sites, churches, and other places, but not about people.  For places, any list can be organized and split out as needed by geographical/political boundaries:  split by country, by state, by county, etc., and there's seldom disagreement about how to do that.  And it seems not too hard to keep lists nearly all-inclusive of new articles in the corresponding categories.  For people, it seems there'd be many ways to split first, then second, and there'd be disagreements and duplication and it would be very hard to keep lists updated.  I see List of women dancers lists about 80 United States dancers of all kinds, while a category for American ballerinas alone has more than 200, and I'm not motivated to get involved in updating the list....looks hard and not very useful.  The "Wikipedia:Category intersection" project seems very well tailored to addressing the cross-categorizations of persons by gender by nation by occupation etc., very elegantly.


 * Sionk, I see your point about the List of women architects, although there's no intro to the list-article reflecting anything about what you say (and there should be). I see there's well-developed Women in architecture article which addresses that, and it should certainly be summarized and linked in the list's intro.  (BTW, I just raised a question at Talk:Women in architecture.)


 * Not sure where to go now, maybe will not develop Draft:List of woman artists further, now. Thanks again. -- do ncr  am  20:30, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Attention called to Dora Maar article
I completed a first pass re-write of the Dora Maar article, which suffered on many levels, including a complete lack of citations, repeated appearance of (apparent) factual statements out of chronological order, a one sentence lede that completely ignored the many facets of her long life, a lack of any references to her works, a lack of references to her appearances in art, and the presence of an unnecessary info box on Pablo Picasso (containing only 4 relevant wikilinks to Dora Maar images).

The lede is now extended, the Picasso box removed (Maar works moved into a text list in a new section of text), and the first real citation—eminent Caws biographer article in The Guardian—added and used to rewrite the Section on her early life.

The article remains with section tags (most sections unsourced), inline tags regarding repeated statements of unsourced opinions, and article tags calling for citations and move away from essay to encyclopedic.

I ask participation of persons interested in woman poets and visual artists—Maar is a photographer, painter, and poet—to have a look at the sources for this artist and begin to rewrite the long stretches of unsourced prose with accurate, sourced biography for this important artist, fascinating individual, and artistic muse.

Reading knowledge of French and Croatian would help immensely, but even art and art historical experience and fundamental copyediting skills would be very valuable; for instance, I created a stub of a section on Maar's appearances in Picasso's works, wherein each needs name, description, and date (a process which I have only begun). As well, and critically, there is a paucity of references to her work and collections, and this research must be done, and added with sources.

Cheers, and good luck, I will look in. (But please do not remove tags until substantial section by section progress is made; readers, esp. mobile readers, deserve the warning that all is not right, yet, with the article.)

Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:07, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Nelda Ramos
Please discuss. Bearian (talk) 00:43, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Women artists/Redlinks from Wikidata
I was really happy to stumble upon WikiProject Women artists/Redlinks from Wikidata and wondered how we could get a similar list for WP:WikiProject Women writers. Is the list auto-generated or did someone do the research one article at a time? I am somewhat facile with Wikidata but not enough to understand how to develop this list. Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:33, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Glad you like it - I created one for you here: WikiProject Women writers/Redlinks from Wikidata. Basically, you go to autolist here and make a query for all female authors with this text: (no quotes) "CLAIM[21:6581072] and claim[106:(TREE[482980][][279])]". Next, you download the result as a text file and open it in notepad (or other editor of choice that doesn't mess up special characters). Next you dump that into a spreadsheet and filter for the Q numbers without enwiki sitelinks, but including a label and a description (I only included the top part for artists as there are way more of them than writers). Next, you create a new view of the filtered data with the wikimarkup and dump that into excel2wiki to get the table. Note you can set your language in autolist to download something other than English to get other language labels and descriptions too. Hope it helps, Jane (talk) 08:40, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * , this is awesome. Thank you so much. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:44, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

looking for those interested in our project
hi wiki women artist community

my name is lori brown (usa) and with justine clark (australia) and eleanor chapman (germany), we have applied for a grant to write more women architects and designers into wikipedia. your own project has been integral to our thinking as well as helping us focus our grant proposal. we welcome comments and support for our project. in our own countries, we hosted wiki writing parties on march 8, international women's day, as a way to begin these efforts. some of these intersected with yours as well as i posted our nyc event on your page.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/More_Female_Architects_on_Wikipedia we look forward to hearing from you. Loriannbrown (talk) 23:28, 20 April 2015 (UTC)loriannbrown

Bechdel test
The scope of this project was broadened to include films that pass the Bechdel test. While I think there are too few films that pass the test, I worry that including all of them could imbalance the project. gobonobo + c 17:01, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Why? In what way? Jane (talk) 06:42, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * While films that pass the Bechdel test will have at least two women actors, many of those films were directed, produced, and written by men. This project already disincludes articles for actors themselves, so it puts us in a situation where we wouldn't have an article for an actor like Audrey Hepburn but we would have an article for a biopic about her. Apart from that, there are currently 5,662 articles within the scope of this project. Assuming we have articles for most of the 3,390 passing films listed at bechdeltest.com, they would comprise a large percentage of this project. gobonobo  + c 08:27, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I have long since stopped worrying about compiling the numbers. We have bots for that. I am also not worried that we will be flooded with thousands of articles about films made by men that pass the Bechdel test. I am however very interested in accumulating such articles for the -pedia, and if this becomes a problematic area where the number of articles floods our discussion page, well, then it would be time for a new project. The film industry is ruled by mostly rich white men and women artists working within that industry deal with it, so we can too. Jane (talk) 09:25, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Discussion notice
There is a discussion at meta, Grants:IdeaLab/Community discussion on harassment reporting, that may be of interest to members of the project. Lightbreather (talk) 14:21, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Deletion nomination of potential interest
See Articles for deletion/List of female visual artists from Vancouver. I don't personally feel strongly one way or the other about this one, but thought it could use more input. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:33, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Danielle Monet Morse
This abandoned draft was up for speedy deletion because it hadn't been edited in six months. I removed the tag to buy another six months in case anyone here is interested in improving it -- seems like a potentially viable article on first glance. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:25, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight) listed at Requested moves
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight) to be moved to Columbia University performance art controversy. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 23:21, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Global Feminist Art class analyzing content gaps
Just thought I'd share this interesting class project: Education Program:University of Washington/Global Feminist Art (Spring 2015)

From the course page:

"Each student will identify a gap in Wikipedia coverage for a course-related topic — such an artist, topic, concept, or movement. The student will then post an entry to the course project page to describe the gap, propose text to fill the gap, and list sources that could be used to fill it."

Student work is being collected here: Education Program talk:University of Washington/Global Feminist Art (Spring 2015)/gap analysis. --Ryan (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:08, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

New article: Millicent Sowerby
Having become interested in the Sowerby family of naturalists and illustrators, I created Millicent Sowerby (DYK nom). There appears to be additional and/or more extensive coverage in books and other offline sources, so if anyone has relevant knowledge and access to sources, feel free to contribute! --Animalparty-- (talk) 23:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Mattress Performance
There is a discussion at the BLP noticeboard which may be relevant to this wikiproject. --Sammy1339 (talk) 00:52, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

RfC - Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight)
There's currently an open RfC on a topic that may be of interest to readers of this wikiproject.--BoboMeowCat (talk) 03:10, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Copyright Violation Detection - EranBot Project
A new copy-paste detection bot is now in general use on English Wikipedia. Come check it out at the EranBot reporting page. This bot utilizes the Turnitin software (ithenticate), unlike User:CorenSearchBot that relies on a web search API from Yahoo. It checks individual edits rather than just new articles. Please take 15 seconds to visit the EranBot reporting page and check a few of the flagged concerns. Comments welcome regarding potential improvements. These likely copyright violations can be searched by WikiProject categories. Use "control-f" to jump to your area of interest (if such a copyvio is present).--Lucas559 (talk) 15:53, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Louisa Beresford, Marchioness of Waterford
Hi all, I recently stumbled across the article on Louisa Beresford, Marchioness of Waterford. I'm a little confused by the content of the article as a lot of detail seems to be about her family/relatives which contextually seems a bit extraneous. I have a book out of the library at the moment which has a chapter on her as an artist - O’Connor, Éimear. Irish Women Artists, 1800-2009. Dublin: Four Courts Press. ISBN 9781846822506. Does anyone have any advice on how to go about overhauling it, or perhaps has an interest in trying to improve it? Thanks! Smirkybec (talk) 19:25, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Lia Chang
I saved this article from being deleted at an AfD, but various issues in it are under discussion. Can anyone comment here?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lia_Chang#archive.3F -- Ssilvers (talk) 01:16, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Composers
Could composers be added to this list? Female composers are not well-represented on Wikipedia. Uenuku (talk) 22:58, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Re-organization of WikiProject Women
There currently is a discussion about the future organization of WikiProject Women and several other women-related Wikiprojects and taskforces at the above link. Some aspects may be of interests to editors of this project and your participation in the discussion would be appreciated. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 12:09, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

RFC: 2015 Art+Feminism Grant
Art+Feminism has prepared a combined renewal of our IEG grant and PEG grant. If awarded, these grants will fund: childcare and refreshments for the 2016 international Art+Feminism Edit-a-thons; in-person training sessions for New York-city based volunteers and online training sessions national and international node organizers; the expansion of our outreach to post-secondary institutions and international Wikimedia chapters; building sustainable infrastructure for node organizers; and making our materials more intersectional. We seek community comment to help complete the grant process: here -- Theredproject (talk) 23:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Two excellent new lists on Rembrandt
I would like to draw the project's attention to two excellent new lists compiled by : Rembrandt catalog raisonné, 1968 and Rembrandt catalog raisonné, 1986. Not only do both lists contain all the essential data on Rembrandt's paintings but they also provide references to Wikidata entries on each work which offer further details. I have a feeling it will not be long before the lists appear in Dutch and other languages, given Wikidata's multilingual approach. These lists offer an excellent basis for further developments along the same lines. Rembrandt may not be a woman but he now certainly enjoys dedicated female support.--Ipigott (talk) 16:25, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Jane (talk) 18:09, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy Public Domain Day!
Here is a link to a list of women painters who died in 1945. Not all are from Europe, but the ones who are have now entered PD so paintings can be uploaded to Commons for them. Here's the link Jane (talk) 18:09, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Women's History Month worldwide online edit-a-thon
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"Women are everywhere"
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Courtney Love article
Hello all, I have been working on the Courtney Love article over a number of years now, and it is currently a Featured Article nominee. I wanted to post here to see if any editors would potentially be interested in doing a review. So far, there are 2/2 reviews supporting it for FA, but I wanted to reach out to some other related WikiProjects to see if anyone would be interested or willing to participate in the review process. Given as divisive of a figure she is, it's been a bit difficult getting interest from editors, in spite of how high-traffic of an article it is. Thank you! Drown Soda (talk) 20:01, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

2016 Just For The Record IEG & PEG Grants notification — intersectional & gender diversity on Wikipedia!
Just For The Record has prepared a combined IEG grant and PEG grant application to work on the promotion of more gender diversity on Wikipedia with an intersectional perspective. These grant applications build upon the exciting results of our 2015-2016 Brussels-based series of events addressing the gender gap on Wikipedia. Just For The Record has created a network in which expertise on these questions is created and shared. With our new applications, we want to expand this knowledge and network beyond the context of the edit-a-thon!

If awarded, the PEG grant will fund: location and refreshments for the 2016-2017 Just For The Record edit-a-thons. If awarded, the IEG grant will fund: research and analysis into the representation of gender on Wikipedia, combined with the construction of a research/ambassador network, leading to an intersectional non-sexist guide on how knowledge and history can be written in a more diverse way. We seek community comment, discussions and endorsement signatures (section at the bottom of the pages) to help complete the grant process: here and here! Many thanks, Lfurter (talk) 09:32, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Women in photography
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New page for art historian Julia Friedman could use your assistance please

 * Note: has been indefinitely blocked as a sockpuppet of . Please see the investigation and the related conflict of interest discussion for details.  Rebb  ing  19:41, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Greeting editors -- an insightful editor has posted in the Talk page for the article Julia Friedman: This article is within the scope of WikiProject Women artists, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of women artists on Wikipedia. Therefore, I would like to introduce this page to your visitors.

I would like to bring to your attention that I have just created a page for a woman in the field of art history. The page is for Julia Friedman, a Russian born Los Angeles art historian. Needless to say, this page Julia Friedman could use your assistance! I hope you can read the wonderful review that inspired my efforts in The Times Literary Supplement published May 27. I would appreciate any contribution you could make or offer. Despite this mid-career woman's notable talent and scholarship, the past few hours since its launch have been very difficult. --Wwwwhatupprrr (talk) 18:48, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Coagula Art Journal #113, May 2016

 * Note: has been indefinitely blocked as a sockpuppet of . Please see the investigation and the related conflict of interest discussion for details.  Rebb  ing  19:41, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Might this be of interest to any editors/readers? The 113th issue of ‘’Coagula Art Journal’’, May 2016, is the largest ever printed in the magazine’s 24 year history at 88 pages. This issue highlights Eric Minh Swenson's documentary photographs of Art Stars –  160 women artists, dealers, and writers in the art scene from New York to California – with an introduction by Mat Gleason. Cecily Brown, Catherine Opie, Alexis Smith (artist), Casey Jane Ellison, Edythe Broad, Hunter Drohojowska-Philip, Julia Friedman, Helen Molesworth, Michele Maccarone, and other notable "art stars" are featured. --Wwwwhatupprrr (talk) 02:45, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Welcome to the Hall of Fame!
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Nadia Kaabi-Linke
I started this article as part of the recent Guggenheim MENA women artist edit-a-thon. I've been in touch with the artist to get photos and whatnot and in that process, I think it has enough to pass a GA nomination, if anyone is interested in giving it a review. Especially open to feedback on the format/structure, as I plan to work on multiple new contemporary artist articles in the near future. czar 05:45, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Sharon Christian
Hi all! Seeking help to improve page for the artist Sharon Christian. She was an important artist in Western Canada, but like many female Canadian artists (especially pre-internet), her documented notable contributions during her lifetime are not represented on wikipedia. Here's to trying to remedy the situation:

Draft:Sharon_Christian

Thanks!Icareaboutart (talk) 13:39, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Invitation to Women in Architecture & Women in Archaeology editathons
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This article has multiple issues with it. The references seem to be correctly cited, however, more content could be added to the page as it is quite scarce. Everything in the article is relevant to the article's topic. Everything seems to be neutral on the subject. Some of the information is out of date and more could be added. Cady FosterCmfoster3 (talk) 16:45, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages
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Georgia O'Keeffe
I became aware that there were just a few articles about Georgia O'Keeffe's paintings at the WikiProject visual arts talk page. Her article was also in very sore shape, with lots of uncited content and other issues. I have been working to clean-up that article and have developed articles for Georgia O'Keeffe template, which are just a start. If anyone is interested, there are lots of opportunities to expand the articles about her work that are listed in the template. After some initial editings and regrouping of the sections, I am working on the article about her from the top-down.

I posted this here because it seems such a shame to not properly represent O'Keeffe and her important contribution to American art. If anyone is interested in joining in, that would be great!— CaroleHenson &thinsp; (talk) 15:50, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I'd love to. I'm an admirer of your work, but not quite sure how I could possibly keep up with you. A practical issue that came up when I started Black Iris (painting) is the copyright status of O'Keeffe's work. If I understand the situation correctly, her work that was published before January 1, 1923 is in the public domain, but later work is not, and nothing will enter the public domain in the US until 2019. Do you know if this is correct? Mduvekot (talk) 22:45, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
 * I think you are right, but you can better ask that q on commons I believe. It doesn't really matter for illustrating the articles, b/c you can just upload the image to the article here on enwiki under the fair use policy since the article is about the image. We did this with the Europeana art challenge for artworks by painters who died less than 70 yrs ago, and you can see that is the case for some of the works by O'Keeffe already. Just copy the same tl for the image if you want to upload locally. Jane (talk) 09:06, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Susan E. King was nominated for deletion
I just created this page yesterday. She is an important book artist and should be included. Will you all help. Please weigh in on her talk page. Thank you.--Sue Maberry (talk) 16:46, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Karina Smigla-Bobinski
You may want to weigh in on this Karina Smigla-Bobinski at Articles for Deletion. My arguments do not seem to be taken into consideration. She is a well known New Media artist of note, shown in museums and galleries around the world. Netherzone (talk) 15:10, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Rita Grosse-Ruyken
Hello, I noticed there are a couple old maintenance issues on the English page for Rita Grosse-Ruyken, a living German artist. The article was challenged three years ago and the decision was to keep, but it needs a little beefing up. I added an internal link to get rid of the article orphan problem, but does it need more sources? There is a German language version of the page that has no issues. Thank you!

Imhr (talk) 22:04, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Category:Women visual artists up for discussion/merge
See Category:Women visual artists for discussion. Hmlarson (talk) 21:43, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

some afds
Hi, just a heads up, the following articles are up for deletion: Anne Dugan, Duluth Art Institute, Edna Blanchard. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:35, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Fearless Girl statue
To commemorate International Women's Day, I invite project members to help expand the newly-created article, Fearless Girl. Happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:18, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Milly Ristvedt up for deletion
If any editors on this project find a moment to help develop an article on a notable Canadian woman painter, Milly Ristvedt, please do so. it is up for deletion HERE - perhaps you would like to add a comment or opinion. She goes by another name (see her page) and often women artists "fall thru the cracks" because of the discrepancy between maiden name and married name. Netherzone (talk) 00:19, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report
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Are books illustrated by women a part of this project?
Hi all, has removed the women artists project tag from a couple of book talkpages (Click, Clack, Moo and If You Give a Mouse a Cookie) with the edit comment "not in scope of WikiProject Women artists" and "not a biography of a woman artist", i thought that "Welcome to WikiProject Women artists, a WikiProject dedicated to ensuring quality and coverage of biographies of women artists and their works." would include books that contain illustrations by women? a clarification of this would be much appreciated, thanks. Coolabahapple (talk) 02:02, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm travelling with limited ability to respond. Just revert me where you think I made a mistake and the work is substantially by the artist. I'll review what i did and address your concerns in detail once I have good internet access again, likely Sunday. All the best, Mduvekot (talk) 13:51, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Illustrators are absolutely a part of this project's scope, and . Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:44, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The context is that I was looking at the stubs in WikiProject_Women_artists/Popular_pages. I updated some tags and removed a number of people who do not meet the broad definition of (visual) artist, like Preeti Gupta, Anais Granofsky and M.O. I have removed two books from WikiProject Women artists; If You Give a Mouse a Cookie which was illustrated by Felicia Bond, whose article is not part of WikiProject Women artists, and Click, Clack, Moo, which was illustrated by Betsy Lewin, who is of interest to WikiProject_Women_artists. I did not mean to suggest that illustrators should not be part this project's scope, and don't believe I ever have. I felt that their work did not meet an admittedly rather narrow definition of "work of art", but I can see that it is impractical to include painters and their paintings and designers, but not their designs. Is it fair to say that the consensus here is that "biographies of women artists and their works" includes any work or substantial part of a work by a women artist? Mduvekot (talk) 03:20, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Khadija Saye
A redirect about the artist Khadija Saye, whose tragic death in the Grenfell Tower fire has been widely reported in the British press, is being turned into an article. I think we could do nothing better to honour her legacy than to make this article the best that it possibly can be. I'm not a great writer, I don't write GAs or FAs, so I'm not the right person to do right by Khadija Saye. To all of you here: please help make the article some of our best work. Thank you, Mduvekot (talk) 02:33, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Nancy Crow
Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Nancy Crow? Almost all of the sources cited are WP:BLPSELFPUB so it's not clear whether Crow meets WP:BIO or WP:ARTIST; moreover, the article is a bit promotional sounding, particularly the box quote at the beginning, and makes mention of a number of non-Wikipedia notable collections and exhibitions. Quilting might not get the type of coverage of some other fine arts, so I'd figured it would be best to get feedback from others before adding tags, etc. Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:43, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sure Crow is notable. Her work has been exhibited in several significant museums and is collected by several museums as well. Definitely an important figure. Mduvekot (talk) 22:57, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for checking on this . I only mentioned "notability" because pretty much all of the sources are Crow's books. This may be fine for referencing certain content, but it doesn't help establishing notability. Anyway, I'm glad I asked about the article at some WikiProjects for feedback since it seems some others have started helping to improve the article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:49, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Are female video game designers part of this?
Would Nina Freeman, a female video game designer who has created a program to help female video game developers, within the scope of this project?&thinsp;&mdash; Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)&thinsp; 20:59, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Alice Walton
Hi! I am looking for editors interested in art and art collectors to review an edit request for the Art section of Alice Walton, the art collector and chairwoman of the Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art. I will not direct edit the page because I have a Conflict of interest, which I disclosed on my user page and declared on Talk:Alice Walton. I created a proposed update that tidies up the existing content and includes appropriate sourcing regarding Crystal Bridges and Ms. Walton's collection. I appreciate any help from the community to review and update the section if they agree. Thanks, Kt2011 (Talk · COI:Walton family) 19:47, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Feedback needed on project proposal: Investigating the Impact of Implicit Bias on Wikipedia
Hi Friends! Here is the current draft of my project proposal: Investigating the Impact of Implicit Bias on Wikipedia. I value your input and would greatly appreciate your feedback. Please share it on the project proposal discussion page. Thank you in advance! Best, Jackiekoerner (talk) 04:19, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject
Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at http://69.142.160.183/~dispenser/cgi-bin/topic_points.py?banner=WikiProject_Women_artists

Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.&mdash; Rod talk 20:16, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Revisiting gendered categories
Wikipedia talk:Categorization -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 23:19, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

International Women's Day Oxford 2018
In case you weren't aware, has created Meetups/UK/International Women's Day Oxford 2018. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 21:12, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia Edit-a-Thon in Portland, Oregon: Jewish Women Artists (March 8)
On March 8 (International Women's Day), and as part of the Art+Feminism project, Shoshana Gugenheim and the Oregon Jewish Museum and Center for Holocaust Education will be hosting a Wikipedia edit-a-thon to create and improve articles about Jewish women artists. Click here for more information. You can also express interest or suggest article to create or improve here. Remote participation is also welcome! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 19:34, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Why not use images from women artists?
The image being used is nice but I was image searching a particular artist and the current image came up. (She is referenced on the page as being AFD and alas has no usable images that I can find so far) https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Raissa+Venables%22&safe=off&tbas=0&tbm=isch&source=lnt&tbs=sur:fmc&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwih7Omvm6vaAhUJi6wKHWMSDl8QpwUIHg&biw=1350&bih=650&dpr=1 TeeVeeed (talk) 17:36, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

AFD
An article on a woman artist has been nominated for deletion: Miwha Han. Hmlarson (talk) 20:46, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

ask for approval
Hi, I wonder if this project wants to add WikiProject Women template to redirects based on what articles that in Category:All WikiProject Women articles for example (the example for WikiProject Medicine).--جار الله (talk) 15:40, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * There are already over 300 pages in . It shouldn't be too controversial. please note: the class and importance parameters should either be omitted or left blank, they are autodetected and there is no need to set these explicitly. Strike that, it relates to WikiProject Women. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 19:32, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * doesn't have any code to handle redirects, so doesn't recognise redirect-class pages. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 19:34, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Lisa Frank at AfD -- not in the project's alert list
Hello, I wanted to let you know that Lisa Frank is at AfD: Articles for deletion/Lisa Frank (3rd nomination). While the page isn't on the Alert List at WikiProject Women artists/Article alerts I believe it is germane to this project and wanted to make sure you knew. --Theredproject (talk) 02:37, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Gabriele Evertz
For the first time, I added the to a talk-page. Do i have to add it somewhere else in order to do all correct or was this already all that i had to do, in order to get her to the project? Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 20:04, 1 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Nope, that’s all you have to do to put her article into the project. If you like, you can also add an assessment to the template, but if you’re new to assessments, you can leave that to other project members. Thanks for creating the article! NotARabbit (talk) 20:44, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, dear people. I'm very astonished that this really long article is rated a "stub", how long should it be to be rated a normal article??? As this is on a living person, i would find it strange to write much more, but if you give me a hint of what you find missing, I'll do my best. Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 22:53, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The assessment gradings (classes) and their criteria are here. Of those nine, FA and GA require an outside opinion; A requires a peer-review; FL and List are inapplicable since the article is not a list. This leaves B, C, Start and Stub: feel free to evaluate the article as it presently stands against the criteria for those four classes, and having made your assessment, you may amend the value of the existing stub parameter in the template at Talk:Gabriele Evertz, for example, to start. If you wish to explain why you chose a particular class, you may do so either in the existing info on update section, or in a new section on that talk page. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 08:53, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Dear Rerose64 - you are a real treasure for me, as you are so kind to help me with understanding. Thank you very much. Yesterday i thought, if i read more articles that are rated, i might also get a better understanding of how i can improve. With your info, i'm trying to get better. Thanks again for having taken the time to write to me in such a friendly manner! Kind regards, --Gyanda (talk) 09:56, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Women in Green – call for participants
Hello all – I'd like to invite you to join Women in Green, WikiProject Women's article improvement department. The department has not been an active project in the past, but we are now working on kickstarting new collaborative work between editors to improve existing articles about women and women's works. If this sounds like something you're interested in, please add your name to Women in Green's list of active participants! You can check out more details of our discussions so far on the Women in Green talk page, plus our collaboration proposal here. Alanna the Brave (talk) 23:46, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

A request for input by other women artist to a new draft page for Bernis von zur Muehlen, photographer.
Hello, I am Peter von zur Muehlen, husband of artist Bernis von zur Muehlen, for whom I have created a draft page on her at Draft:Bernis_von_zur_Muehlen. This mostly completed page is now open to any input by the Wikipedia community, but I think having experts inspect this page may be most sensible. So I would very much appreciate any help in preparing this article for AfC review. If you would be so kind as to have a look, do anything you can to improve it directly, or leave me notes on its talk page, I would be most grateful. Thank you in advance,Pmuehlen (talk) 20:55, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Wiki Women in Red - a proposed User Group
Having worked for 2 years editing articles for Women In Red, a group of organizers have concluded that sourcing is one of the biggest hurdles in creating articles on women and non-binary genders. Though it is true that a lot of sourcing simply doesn’t exist, it is also true that there are sources, but we have no access to them. As these groups did not typically become subjects for academic study until the 1970s, many of the sources are not on line or are behind paywalls. Failure to include women and non-binary people in the encyclopedia presents a one-dimensional view of society and history. To address those issues, we are forming a new User Group aimed at referencing and support for like-minded groups and would appreciate your input or input from your supporters in our organizational process. See link: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Women_in_Red MauraWen (talk) 09:07, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

RD of Aretha Franklin at ITN
Please assist in improving this page to meet ITN standards. The article may need improvement in referencing. --- Coffee  and crumbs  14:57, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Report from your friend at WP:ITN
Please assist in improving this page to meet ITN standards. The article needs improvement in coverage of her career and works. The nomination has stalled and needs help from editors with interest and expertise in art. I have made a more detailed post at WT:WIR.--- Coffee  and crumbs  11:58, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

RfC: Should there be an article on Emma Sulkowicz?
Hello! At Talk:Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight) § RfC, there is an RfC on the question "Should there be an article on Emma Sulkowicz?". You are being notified because the page is tagged as being of interest to this WikiProject. :) -sche (talk) 21:36, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Seeking editing help to republish my artist page in Wikipedia
Hello All,

I am seeking help to republish my draft version of my artist page which is here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Margaret_Noble_(artist)

Hope to hear from you. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Margaretnobleartist (talk • contribs) 14:46, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I added a "draft article" tag to the draft, and performed a cursory search to locate any reviews offering a critical perspective. Most of the current version of the article consists of local (San Diego) references, promotional in nature, rather than analytical commentary. It's okay to list selected exhibitions, but the case for WP:Notability depends on demonstrating artistic merit in national and international settings. In other words, less description of various installations and more content demonstrating notable contributions, such as the reasons for the Musicworks prize, or possibly the Athenaeum award, drawing perhaps on some of the text in this source. I can help paring down the promotional content to a more encyclopedic version, but do you have other reviews of your work that can be summarized for the article? – Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 22:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

--- Hello @Grand'mere Eugene‬ (talk) @https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Grand%27mere_Eugene

Thank you for getting back to me and helping me navigate/understand. I appreciate your thoughts and the potential edit. To answer your question regarding more critical writings on my work, I have the following pieces:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/museums/in-the-galleries-strangely-familiar-objects-for-the-eyes-and-ears/2017/01/26/2cacaf94-e191-11e6-a453-19ec4b3d09ba_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ef3430673c7d

https://www.artforum.com/picks/barnsdall-art-park-la-municipal-gallery-65190

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/entertainment/visual-arts/sd-et-2016-review-visual-art-20161211-story.html

http://www.latimes.com/sd-la-jolla-historical-society-san-diego-four-ecologies-20180912-htmlstory.html#

https://margaretnoble.net/wp-content/uploads/art_ltd_review_mnoble.pdf

Looking forward to your thoughts. Thank you for replying!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.207.12.194 (talk) 02:56, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I've copied this exchange to the article's talk page where we can continue the discussion, perhaps with other interested editors. Cheers! Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 15:24, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

I need help to add book reference, and film interview, to an existing woman artist page
I have published a book which is the first comprehensive reference work on the following woman documentary photographer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constance_Stuart_Larrabee I want to add a link to an online film interview which now shows some 25 of her iconic photos and discusses her work. There is an "external links" section, which currently contains 3 links, and I suppose a fourth could be added. But I am totally new to Wikipedia and do not know how to do this. There is currently no "further reading" section, and it would be ideal to provide the book reference there if such a section could be added. I have no ambition to edit the article in detail. I have to leave this to someone more experienced on Wikipedia who can access the book and interview, and add relevant information at a later date. But at least the addition of the information will give the references to readers. Can someone help me by doing the edit, if I provide the references (which of course will be able to be verified by the URL links I will provide)? PeterMEllFr (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Betty Blayton-Taylor
Was wondering if someone from this WikiProject would mind taking a look at this and assessing it? There's been some recent editing of the article by Bayton-Taylor's sister which might need some cleaning up in addition to the maintenance templates which were added in 2011. Subject's is most likely notable per WP:ARTIST, but there's lots of unsourced content which might need trimming or to be removed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:21, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I worked to clean up the tone today, but it still needs additional citations. Netherzone (talk) 19:04, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Anyone an active reviewer at AfC?
I've been trying to review articles that were submitted to AfC during the Art + Feminism editathons, but the backlog is huge -- as of this morning, there are more than 2600 articles in the queue. If anyone's up for reviewing, there is a glut of submissions around 18/19/20 days ago. (Posting on WiR talk page as well.) Thanks! JSFarman (talk) 16:04, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Ellen Woodbury
I have raised a discussion about her at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Actors_and_Filmmakers. Please go and comment on that thread. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 00:04, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Need help getting review of a new article on eco-artist Pam Longobardi --
Hello -- I am glad to find this project! In late March of this year I submitted a new entry on the work of Pam Longobardi, best known for her use of plastic detritus as a primary medium, as well as her public advocacy for ocean conservation and against plastic pollution. If anyone is interested I would love to get this reviewed and active! This is my first time trying to post anything on Wikipedia so I'm not sure how this works.

My draft is at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Pamela_Longobardi

Many thanks! Jaws525 (talk) 17:00, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello and thanks for your edits! I had a look at it and trimmed some of the CV-like items, per WP:NOTCV. Notability is certainly established, but the article needs some more trimming to be less of a CV. I am not sure the "appearances as herself" section needs to be there, but I left it as it contains many sources. I would try tightening things up by reducing the article content 30% or so, perhaps by moving those media appearances refs to the other parts of the article. Thanks!ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:27, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, you should avoid the use of inline URLS to outside sites, per WP:MOS.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 17:28, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Requested move at Adelaïde Alsop Robineau
Please see the discussion regarding a proposed title change to the article Adelaïde Alsop Robineau. Cheers, --Animalparty! (talk) 01:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Women in Red's stub contest is starting now
Our three-month stub contest is starting now and will continue until the end of the year. Although there will be no physical prizes, each month (October, November and December) recognition will be given to the winners of two different sections: one for new stubs, the other for enhancing existing stubs to start class and beyond. The contest is open to all registered members of Women in Red. Join in now and help us improve coverage of women artists on Wikipedia.--Ipigott (talk) 19:31, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

Women in Woodworking task force
Hello Fellow Wikipedians! I have been working on adding more biographies on women woodworkers and am wondering what is the best way to have all of the names in one centralized location. So far I have been putting them under the WikiProject Women in Red/Crafts section but I have been thinking of starting a separate task force for this woman in woodworking project. I have several editors interested in working on specifically women in woodworking and we gather informally every month and may start to host larger editing gatherings in which having a centralized list of women woodworkers with red links would be helpful. I am also thinking the task force may want to include articles recently turned blue or other articles on the subject that could use editing. Any input is welcome! Thanks Terasaface (talk) 06:25, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Contemporaneity
The article on Mariko Mori starts in a way that seems conventional for en:Wikipedia:


 * Mariko Mori (森 万里子) is a contemporary Japanese artist.

She's alive. She's 52, and presumably still working. What, if anything, does the word "contemporary" add?

If, as I suspect "very little", may it be deleted? -- Hoary (talk) 10:11, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Do we move Category:Guatemalan_women_painters from under "B" in cat:women_artists....?
Why is it that Category:Guatemalan women painters‎ listed under section "B"? I looked around Villega pump, but was not able to report bug, if it would be. Could you fix please? --Omotecho (talk) 11:36, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not a bug, just misuse of a WP:SORTKEY - see . -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 12:50, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Category Question: Draughts(women)
Maybe you have women who create fine arts drawings, which is distinct from illustrators or technical drafting, listed somewhere. If so, then ignore this comment, but I haven't spotted it, and I've thought about this question myself and come up with no satisfactory answers. The correct term as far as I know is draughtsman/en and I've also seen draughtswoman/en used, but they are horribly antiquated terms, which practically no one uses. That said, it is a refined and professional fine arts skill, so it shouldn't be overlooked either. Thoughts? EditGirl99 (talk) 08:46, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Elizabeth Gower
Was wondering if some members of this WikiProject would mind taking a look at this article? I came across it via WP:THQ; although I think the attempts to improve the article were things done in good faith, I'm not sure they are an actual improvement over the prior version of the article. There might be a way to incorporate all or some of the new content added (if it can be properly sourced) into the prior format of the article without completely changing the layout, etc. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:46, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Should we change from Women to Womxn?
'Womxn' is increasingly used among intersectional feminists to be trans inclusive and non-binary inclusive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lu.heintz (talk • contribs) 18:37, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Women in Red Asian women contest
From 1 October to 31 December, Women in Red is running a virtual contest on Asian women. In November, this will coincide with Wikipedia Asian Month. We look forward to strong participation from all those interested in improving coverage of women artists in Asia.--Ipigott (talk) 19:29, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Marci Liroff
Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Marci Liroff and possibly help (who is claiming to be Liroff) sort things out and make the changes she's trying to make? A lot of recently added content needed to be WP:REVDELeted (see User talk:Diannaa for more details) per WP:COPYVIO. Selsid has also edited the article in the past, and those edits might need to be assessed as well. Finally, a recent paragraph added to Marci Liroff about Liroff testifying against Harvey Weinstein in 2020 by another editor might need a closer look since it seems out of place in that particular section. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:49, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Jody Lee
This stub has been tagged for notability for nine years. I am not finding a lot online to prove notability. Please help rescue this, or it could face deletion. Bearian (talk) 19:58, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Found a few sources, but there are still some statements that need citations. I believe the awards/nominations qualify her as notable, but I agree the sourcing needs improvement. Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 04:49, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Proposed Move of Yale student abortion art controversy to Untitled (Senior Thesis) (performance)
This is a courtesy notification that I have proposed renaming an article of interest to this WikiProject from Yale student abortion art controversy → Untitled (Senior Thesis) (performance). The move discussion is on the talk page. Theredproject (talk) 10:13, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Kirsten Ulve
Hello! I created the Kirsten Ulve page. She is an female illustrator of high regard; if any contemporary illustrator should be included she should. Would you help me improve the page so it doesn't get deleted? Thank you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kirsten_Ulve Katherine311MH (talk) 14:59, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, Katherine, you've made the case her work is widely accepted with references that show her work. However, what the critics have said about her work is key to making the case for notability under Wikipedia's standards. I added a "Critical Reception" section with three entries. Add a few more just to demonstrate the critics' responses, and it's good to go. Good work so far! Grand&#39;mere Eugene (talk) 19:33, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your help and encouragement! I'll keep going. Katherine311MH (talk) 13:57, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Nats Getty for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nats Getty is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Nats Getty until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Talk:Nats Getty says the article is of interest to this WikiProject, so I hope it was appropriate for me to list this here. Apologies if not. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 20:32, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

depictions of women in the arts
Sorry if this is off-topic here. I'm working on Draft:Susanna and the Elders in art and am woefully unequipped. Can someone here point me somewhere that I might find someone who might be willing to take a look and/or provide advice? —valereee (talk) 20:49, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Maija Peeples-Bright
I am confused why this article would be rejected for AfC submission. Can anyone help? I think she meets WP:GNG and WP:ARTIST. PigeonChickenFish (talk) 20:04, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Are curators in scope?
I've added the WikiProject template to the pages of a couple of curators in the past and wanted to double check if curators, archivists, gallerists, critics, etc. are within this project's scope. That is, women who work in the arts, but aren't artists themselves. pburka (talk) 15:04, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

FAR notice
I have nominated Agatha Christie: Murder on the Orient Express for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 02:23, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Neri Oxman
Hello! My name is Stephanie and I'm here representing OXMAN on behalf of Neri Oxman. I've registered a Wikipedia account so I can submit requests to improve her entry on the discussion page. I've avoided editing the article myself and I've been working with User:Sj (who achieved Good article status in 2017) to review suggested changes. There are a couple requests on the discussion page which I hope Sj can revisit, but I'd like to extend an invite for other editors to provide feedback as well, since things seem to have stalled a bit.

I understand there's no rush here, but I could use some reassurance I'm following the correct procedure for proposing changes. I'm using the "request edit" template, but perhaps an editor who is interested in women artists could take a look? My most recent request, which has not received any feedback, is to improve the Bibliography section. With gratitude, SM at OXMAN (talk) 20:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Ann Veronica Janssens
Perhaps some members of this WikiProject could take a look at Ann Veronica Janssens and see if there's any cleanup needed to due possible COI or PAID editing. The newly created started editing the edited last December, but other new accounts then started appearing in February (perhaps because of User talk:Maria AVJ) to edit the article. Most of the accounts seem to be WP:SPAs created simply to edit the article. It could've been the work of a single person or multiple people working together, but it probably would be a good idea for others more familiar with BLPs of this nature to give the article the once over. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:25, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Digital art
Could we add Digital art to the list of categories under Scope? I've been doing research on digital art, and there is SO LITTLE coverage of this in Wikipedia. A lot of digital art is online and exhibited and/or presented/performed at festivals, but is not permanently displayed or purchased by traditional galleries. The lack of Wikipedia and Wikidata coverage creates a problem for research, which I actually wrote about in a recent paper (scroll way down to the paragraph starting "Unfortunately Wikidata covers mainstream movies and video games well, but contemporary digital art is almost invisible in Wikidata." Wikidata is used a lot in open science, and a Wikidata entry is created for each Wikipedia page, so adding women digital artists to Wikipedia will make a difference to research on this genre. Here are some examples of databases of digital art that could be used: Lijil (talk) 14:48, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Rhizome
 * Digital art using or representing machine vision technologies
 * Works exhibited or presented at Transmediale
 * Art and surveillance database

Vital Article - Faith Ringgold
Hi all, thought I'd drop a note in here that I nominated Faith Ringgold to be a vital article in the Visual Arts section - that entire list is a bit lacking in terms of major women artists, Ringgold popped to my mind as among the most important to be added. Would love if folks would chime in on the nomination or consider nominating some other artists! Thanks. 19h00s (talk) 19:06, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Barbara Dawson
Please see Articles for deletion/Barbara Dawson. Thank you.  Atsme 💬 📧 00:20, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Good Article Editathon event in October 2022!
 Hello WikiProject Women artists:

WikiProject Women in Green is holding a  month-long Good Article Editathon event in October 2022!

Running from October 1 to 31, 2022, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) editathon event – Wildcard Edition! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to any and all women and women's works during the event period. Want to improve an article about a Bollywood actress? Go for it. A pioneering female scientist? Absolutely. An award-winning autobiography by a woman? Yes! GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to receive a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.

We hope to see you there! Goldsztajn (talk) 01:12, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Silke Otto-Knapp
The artist Silke Otto-Knapp has died. Thriley (talk) 23:05, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Feedback on draft for artist Laura Berman
Hello members of WikiProject Women artists. I was hoping someone could offer feedback on a draft I created about Laura Berman, a printmaker based in Kansas City at User:W12SW77/sandbox/Laura Berman. I have a COI as a paid consultant for WhiteHatWiki, which was hired by Laura Berman. Thank you for your help!W12SW77 (talk) 17:49, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in the #SheSaid Campaign 2021
We are delighted to share with you that the #SheSaid Campaign will be running again this year and you are invited to participate in Oct/Nov 2021.The goal is to celebrate notable women and add more entries on Wikiquote. Please have a look at some of the cool bookmarks we have completed and ready for you to print if you wish to do so. If you would like to have the editable version of the bookmark please contact me at Shoodho, visit some sample of bookmarks here:|SheSaid Bookmarks.For more information, please visit the campaign page here:|SheSaid SheSaid page If you have any questions or query please feel free to contact Islahaddow, Anthere or Shoodho.

Kind regards, Shoodho

I would like to update my biographical information
to update my my practice to reflect its feminist roots and conceptualism. As well as how I view my work in relation to the west. A good portion of my work is temporary installations and ephemeral work that is not noted. I have had additional work placed in collections as well. As well as numerous press inclusions that could be added. I do believe my page falls under the Wiki project creating visibility for women artists - women sculptors - is there some good advice? Lauraphelpsrogers (talk) 08:27, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Expert advice on Draft:Aurélie Salavert
Hello art experts! I'm looking at Draft:Aurélie Salavert, and can't tell from the mostly offline sources whether she would meet notability standards. Any help would be great. Newystats (talk) 22:39, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Where is best place to ask for help?
Hi, There was an article created on bioartist / BBC 100 woman Amy Karle by a Women in Red wiki-a-thon in 2021, and now the article has a template warning on it. I'm seeking help to improve the article. I did what I could to clean up the article but could use more help from the editing community to ensure it is edited appropriately to meet BLP standards.

Would fellow editors please help update the page and remove the template warning on the main article? Or if you feel that it has been sufficiently updated, please remove the template.

If there is a better place to post this request, please advise. Thank you, ArtistWatch MuseumSurvey (talk) 20:51, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Article drafted about Sandra Mae Frank
Hello all, I have drafted an article about the deaf actress Sandra Mae Frank. I appreciate any feedback in order to improve it. --Bernhard.rulla (talk) 11:10, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi . I think the article is ready for mainspace. Feel free to resubmit it at Articles for Creation. gobonobo  + c 11:32, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Gobonobo Thank you for the positive feedback! Bernhard.rulla (talk) 11:40, 6 November 2023 (UTC)