Talk:Free Radical Design

Closure
It may have literally 'closed its doors' (i.e. not let its employees in) on December 18th, but its closure as a company is NOT confirmed. Read the Eurogamer article properly, please. THANKS!

There has been no official closure announced by the company. Its only a few sources saying its closed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.222.168 (talk) 14:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


 * According to this source they have only entered Administration. - Dinnerbone (Talk/Cont) 14:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Local UK paper reports via its website about the situation at development studio Free Radical Design. It appears that the company entered administration yesterday and 185 jobs are at risk if the company shuts down. The word from Cameron Gunn of administrator Resolve Partners is as follows:

"We will be spending the next three or four days assessing the financial position of the company but it's business as usual, although we have asked that almost all of the employees apart from a skeleton crew remain at home," Gunn makes it clear and adds: "All employees have been paid up until the end of December and we hope to make another announcement before Christmas or very soon thereafter, but we must stress at this stage that it's business as usual."

So, I wonder if by "business as usual" they actually wanted to say that TimeSplitters 4 might actually see the light of day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.222.168 (talk) 22:17, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Deep Silver Dambuster Studios
On July 30, Crytek sold the Homefront IP and its related assets to Deep Silver. Deep Silver said that development of the game will continue at a new studio called Deep Silver Dambuster Studios, which happens to be the renamed and repurposed Crytek UK. This would indicate that Crytek sold its UK studio (unsure if its other IPs, such as Second Sight, Timesplitters and Haze were sold along with it). So should Crytek UK be renamed Deep Silver Dambuster Studios. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Razzamatazz Buckshank (talk • contribs) 16:46, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
 * No, it is not re-named. Crytek specifically said that they were laid off, but did not say whether Crytek UK was shut down for good, implying they still own whatever's left. ViperSnake151   Talk  21:19, 30 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Nobody knows about the legal details how this deal was settled. It's also not important. Public Reception is that Crytek sold the studio to Deep Silver, Crytek itself wrote "the Homefront team from Crytek's Nottingham studio would transfer their talents to Koch Media in compliance with English law and continue their hard work on upcoming shooter". The same guys are working under a new name at their former offices. This isn't different from the transition from Free Radical Games to Crytek UK or Volition, Inc. to Deep Silver Volition, LLC. -- 89.13.200.73 (talk) 09:12, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

I think a company tradition can be stated (Transfer of Undertakings, UK law), regardless of the technical detail of the transition process. The new studio is using the same offices as before, the same team is working on the same game. So I would move the article to Deep Silver Dambuster Studios. If the company should really become a milestone developer on its own, we can always split it again. -- Qafgbxvghnx (talk) 12:02, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Removing the original information about Free Radical, after it was acquired by Crytek, was vandalism
Since when is it alright to remove an entire page including a lot of inromation about a company once it went through acquisition? Besides, Free radical was a company run by different people, doing entirely different projects than Crytek UK. This was vandalism at best. If you guys are going to redirect/rename the page to Deep Silver Dambuster Studios, like you did with FRD to Crytek UK before, then please at least this time retain the info instead of erasing it out of existance. Maybe someone will also have the time now to restore the original information about Free Radical and their project. Either way I hope that removing the FRD page was no Crytek management decision or something like that, considering how maliciously it was performed. Kulmanseidl (talk) 20:15, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 25 September 2015

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The result of the move request was: No consensus. A logical argument could be given for either name, so it would be better to have wider participation. EdJohnston (talk) 01:26, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Crytek UK → Free Radical Design – The company was known longer as Free Radical Design than Crytek UK (9 years vs 5½ years). They developed all their most notable games as Free Radical. In none of the games they developed as Crytek UK, they were the primary development studio, all of them were co-productions. Mika1h (talk) 22:46, 25 September 2015 (UTC)


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Requested move 3 October 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved. Reasonable arguments made, unopposed. Jenks24 (talk) 08:43, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Crytek UK → Free Radical Design – The company no longer exists in any form, and as such I believe there is no need to name the article after the company's "current" name. Also the company was known longer as Free Radical Design than Crytek UK (9 years vs 5½ years). They developed all their most notable games as Free Radical. In none of the games they developed as Crytek UK they were the primary development studio, all of them were co-productions. Mika1h (talk) 09:13, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Support. Makes sense. As Crytek UK, they developed two multiplayer components and one Xbox 360 version of a game, while Free Radical Design did fully develop games. --Soetermans. T / C 10:41, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The sources do not appear to discuss one incarnation of the developer much more than other. The (in)difference of time spent under one name as opposed to another is not a convincing argument for me. If the dev is better known by the first name, there should be sources to say as much—otherwise, it's best to leave it be. Eye close font awesome.svg czar  15:59, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Support: Unless there's convincing evidence to the contrary, I'd say "Free Radical Design" is clearly the common name, for the reasons listed by Mika1h. Another reason: almost everyone from Free Radical, including David Doak, left during the Crytek buyout period. Whether Crytek UK even qualifies as the same company is debatable. Not to mention that the sources agree on the company's original name: see Eurogamer in 2012 or VG24/7 in 2013 or Engadget in 2014, all well after the name change. There's a reason we call it Aqua Teen Hunger Force and not Aqua Teen Hunger Force Forever, even though the series ended under that name. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:36, 7 October 2015 (UTC)


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merge into Dambuster Studios
this article should be merged into Dambuster Studios it is the same company, the closure and new founding are speculation Norschweden (talk) 00:50, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Sources speak of a transfer from Crytek UK to a new subsidiary entitiy of Deep Silver, clearly pointing out that Crytek UK closed down or was closing down. Corporate records also show the new company being incorporated on the given date, and the old one filing a voluntary strikeoff. IMO it would be wrong to merge these articles. Lordtobi  ( &#9993; ) 07:43, 21 October 2017 (UTC)


 * No, it shouldn't. They're separate companies. --The1337gamer (talk) 09:02, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

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