Talk:Microsoft Train Simulator

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 * Too bad they canceled MTS2. I loved MTS 1. :( PMLF 00:00, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Advertising New Sims?
Is it me or is this in rather bad taste?

Any interested fan of MSTS would be already aware of the Kuju and PI Engineering offerings in development through the relevant fan sites and forums. I suggest that a Wiki Administrator remove said "Adverts". A lot of the external links seem to be spam

I agree with the above (anonymous) poster. Unless anyone objects, I would propose that the "adverts" be removed and replace with a more generic section relating to the general types of add-ons available (commercial, community, freeware, etc.). Rushey Platt 17:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I have placed the Advertising template on the page. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:28, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I have cleaned up the article, removed unnecessary detail and spam links. If anyone is unhappy with what I've done, please comment here.  Jezhotwells (talk) 16:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I completely agree with you - other train sims have their own respective pages and should not be mentioned here. -- Alexey Topol (talk) 13:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Software Information Table
How about a table for the software information? I would gladly make one but I do not know how. Stovetopcookies 12:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

What Say You?
I'm not sure what is meant by the following paragraph. The grammar makes no sense to me.

"Kuju Entertainment, the creators of the original Microsoft Train Simulator and also the then cancelled Train Simulator 2, started to work on their own train simulator product named Rail Simulator. It is to be published by Electronic Arts in October 2007."

Perhaps someone could enlighten me on the meaning of this. I'm lost at the "the then" is that meant to be 'they' and if so who is they? Microsoft or Kuju? I had heard it was MS that did but don't know for sure and don't want to correct it with out the facts.

--Dp67 | QSO 11:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Transit simulation?
Is this game useful for simulating mass transit (light rail, subways, buses, etc)? If not, does something like this exist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.67.35.97 (talk) 20:13, 25 August 2008 (UTC)


 * No, MSTS is not a transit simulation, if you mean to use it as a semi-scientific tool. It's just a game. -- Alexey Topol (talk) 02:23, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

afd
please see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Trains if you have some interest in this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carrolljon (talk • contribs) 22:51, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Bugs
''The original version contained many bugs. For example the "front coupling bug", where the locomotive's front coupler would not work, - - and the "end-of-the-line bug", where the locomotive, if it crashes through the last buffers on the route, would fall into an empty void.''

Yes.

''The game is also notoriously unstable with unusually high tendencies to hang, crash without giving reason, and display error messages incorrectly and/or at the wrong times. In many instances, out-of-place error messages, usually for missing files, will cause a highly undesired crash at the wrong time.''

No!!! I purchased my example in early 2002 and in fact nothing like this has ever happened. On the other hand, the original Activities show much unpolished programming, eg. some have no clear ending and they just have to be terminated by pressing Esc. Harjasusi (talk) 21:26, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Bugs and error messages occur predominantly with 3rd party add-ons, both commercial and freeware. -- Alexey Topol (talk) 02:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The sound engine is particularly bad with high sample rates or a large number of sounds. But this doesn't really affect the default routes, just third party ones. Karsini (talk) 15:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Content needs major update and expansion - MSTS is not dead !
The content of the MSTS article needs a major update. Thus far there is barely a word about the huge freeware scene that has developped around MSTS, which continues to produce up-to-date content for the simulator. The article should also mention the BinPatch and other third-party developments, which have effectively created an unofficial MSTS version 1.X with capabilities unheard of in the original version. Moreover the open source project of "OpenRails" ( see www.openrails.org ), which aims to become a fully MSTS-compatible freeware and open-source train simulator, should be presented in a separate paragraph. The article, as it is now, conveys the false impression that MSTS was an obsolete commercial product, published by Microsoft in 2001 and hence completely outdated; the reality however is that MSTS has taken on a life of its own through the third-party developpers - especially from the freeware scene, but also the payware firms - who are active even today. MSTS remains the standard in train simulation, no other simulator has been so universally accepted and can boast such a great variety of content, be it rolling stock, objects or entire routes. I could try to update the article, but knowing wikipedia I expect it to end in a huge edit war, hence I don't really feel like it. But maybe someone feels qualified and respected enough to give it a shot. -- Alexey Topol (talk) 21:19, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Entry paragraph - MSTS 2 should be removed
Two of the three sentences in the very first paragraph talk about the cancelled MSTS 2 project. This is ridiculous, the article is about MSTS 1 first and foremost. The cancellation of MSTS 2 is mentioned further down in the article, which is OK. But it should be removed from the 1st paragraph altogether. -- Alexey Topol (talk) 13:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Adjustments to article made
I have made some changes to the article. I re-wrote some, and took out other content that I deemed unnecessary (such as how it is distributed). Also not needed to be referenced is the fan-based content - this article is about the program, not the content and what might be available through third-parties.  ArcAngel    (talk) ) 12:27, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I want to make some Offline Edits to this Article
How can I copy this article so I can make some edits without it affecting this one. I am going to take another shot at adding a "MSTS Community" section. Sorry about last time Arc Angel David1544 (talk) 02:39, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * In my view it's trivial and not notable. This falls in line with the other rail sim articles - they don't have "community" sections either.     ArcAngel    (talk) ) 19:08, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

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Indian train simulator Msts Jadeja Rajdeepsinh (talk) 09:08, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Use of irrelevant images on this page
All images on this article should be directly relevant to the title of the article, which is about the video game. Applying this criterion, screenshots of the game, including screenshots of objects in the game would be allowed, but including real life photos of what they've modelled shouldn't be.

Inappropriate use of images elsewhere on Wikipedia - and it is widespread - is not an excuse for doing on this page. Those other pages will have to be dealt with as well, but let's do it one at a time.

I should also point out that the photo used for the LMS Royal Scot Class is actually an LMS Rebuilt Royal Scot Class, which is another amateurish mistake. Tony May (talk) 07:17, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

"MSTS Editors & Tools" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect MSTS Editors & and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 17:31, 12 January 2023 (UTC)