Talk:Ohio State University

third-largest university campus?
this assertion about 3rd largest comes up twice in the article, once in the lede and once in the body. The link to another article about largest universities places Ohio at fifth place, not third, and the reference to support "third" is a dead link. I did not delete it because it was a dead link, but because it is an incorrect reference. I propose deleting the incorrect assertions again. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 13:35, 19 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The answer isn't simply cutting content. That is taking apart the encyclopedia, not building it up. If you find incorrect information, correct it and add a new source. ɱ  (talk) 13:43, 19 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Ɱ, I am having trouble matching your comments with WP:NOSOURCES, where it says (bold in original): The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution. So if you have just restored a statement I have shown to be untrue, I find that to be questionable editing. --Melchior2006 (talk) 19:29, 20 July 2023 (UTC) Second ping today. --Melchior2006 (talk) 18:43, 24 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Since no one chimed in on this, I deleted the claim. It was incorrect and unsourced. --Melchior2006 (talk) 11:33, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You can easily see on that list article that OSU was for every year there, second or third largest. So it is not uncommon to summarize the results of a list article in a place like this. I can edit this to reflect that it is fifth for this past academic year. ɱ  (talk) 13:44, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * thanks, but the source you gave is a dead link and doesn't corroborate your claim. That is not really fixing the problem, especially since we have established that the reference, even if findable, is incorrect. --Melchior2006 (talk) 14:30, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Have you read WP:KDL? Anyway the compilation at List of United States public university campuses by enrollment is fine to summarize here. ɱ  (talk) 15:19, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

Academic Boosterism
It looks like on 19th July, 19:10 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ohio_State_University&diff=prev&oldid=1166164106) GuardianH decided to unilaterally add both an academic boosterism tag and a more citations needed tag without a single comment, reason, or justification, which seems to be a reoccurring habit of theirs.

Can we nail down what exactly these are referring to, if anything, so that they can be worked on or removed as needed? Ysjet (talk) 01:02, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I think this question is directed at you. ElKevbo (talk) 01:21, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:BOOSTER:
 * WP:SYNTH
 * WP:SYNTH
 * Claim that definitely needs a source, which it currently does not — MOS:PUFFERY.
 * Possible WP:SYNTH - dead source.
 * These are just some of the ones I saw. Some cleanup is warranted to tidy up the article. GuardianH (talk) 01:51, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 * These are just some of the ones I saw. Some cleanup is warranted to tidy up the article. GuardianH (talk) 01:51, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 September 2023
Change current president to Walter Carter Erg125 (talk) 19:05, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. voorts (talk/contributions) 20:17, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
 * He doesn't begin until January 2024. ElKevbo (talk) 22:42, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2023
Nick Anderson is a Pulitzer winning cartoonist that graduated from The Ohio State University, and needs to be added to the Notable People section.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Anderson_(cartoonist) 172.59.190.49 (talk) 21:09, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Added him to List of Ohio State University people. S0091 (talk) 21:29, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * He is a political cartoonist that has won a Pulitzer prize. He should be under the Pulitzer Prize winners section rather than entertainment. Thank you for the fast response! 172.59.190.49 (talk) 21:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, that highlights some work that needs to done on that list because Pulitzer prize winners are strewn about. I moved Anderson to that section but note the list is not protected so you can edit it if you feel the compulsion to better organize it. :) S0091 (talk) 22:11, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Excellent! Thank you. I will see if I can clean up the list a little better. 172.59.190.49 (talk) 22:21, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 8 January 2024

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover)  The Night Watch     (talk)   23:58, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Ohio State University → The Ohio State University – Unlike at Talk:Open University Britannica uses The Ohio State University. Per WP:COMMONNAME "Other encyclopedias are among the sources that may be helpful in deciding what titles are in an encyclopedic register". The university's logo includes "The" even though the "The" is sometimes small. See Talk:The Solent for a similar case involving Britannica.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 22:29, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
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 * Oppose per WP:THE and two previous solid "Not Moved" decisions. As for common usage, I certainly don't ever say the name with "The" in front of it, and I don't have any recollection of sports fans or reporters (for example) generally doing that. It seems to me this RM is hanging its hat on narrow caveats. Stefen Towers among the rest!   Gab • Gruntwerk 23:35, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose, per WP:THE and WP:COMMONNAME. Even in a New York Times article about the "The", they never used "The Ohio State University" outside of quotes. Clearly not ubiquitous. --Cerebral726 (talk) 16:07, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:THE. The definite article os not used consistently by independent sources, o'r even by the institution itself. Robminchin (talk) 04:47, 10 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Weak Support. I don't see WP:COMMONNAME being fulfilled by either the OSU or OSU, but I do believe that Robminchin's comment of it being not used by OSU is itself is extremely incorrect – consider taking a trip to Columbus and see how ubiquitous use of "The" is.. I believe that conditions played out in WP:THE are actually (if barely) met based on how OSU uses The as a core portion of its name, hence its trademark filing over "The". For these reasons, I'm not a strong proponent, but I have to give my vote to Support based on my reasoning. I fail to see a stronger argument for WP:THE being explained.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 18:12, 12 January 2024 (UTC)


 * Oppose Per all above. Svartner (talk) 00:25, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose per previous four RMs. Nothing has changed. Bensci54 (talk) 14:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 15 January 2024
The academic rankings listed in the table are out of date. 1. Change ARWU national ranking from 42–56 to 39-51; source: https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/arwu/2023 2. Change Forbes national ranking from 105 to 72; source: https://www.forbes.com/colleges/ohio-state-university-columbus/?sh=41d07f5f4561 3. Change the source for the THE / WSJ ranking to https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/ohio-state-university-main-campus (the ranking is unchanged). 4. Change US News & World Report ranking from 49 to 43; source: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/ohio-state-6883 5. Change Washington Monthly from 41 to 68; source: https://washingtonmonthly.com/2023-college-guide/national-1/

In addition the text in the nearby paragraph is no longer up to date. 6. Change "In its 2021 edition, U.S. News & World Report ranked Ohio State as tied for the 17th-best public university in the United States, and tied for 53rd among all national universities." to "In its 2023 edition, U.S. News & World Report ranked Ohio State as tied for the 17th-best public university in the United States, and tied for 43rd among all national universities." source: https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/ohio-state-6883 7. Change "The Academic Ranking of World Universities placed Ohio State 42–56 nationally and 101–150 globally for 2020." to "The Academic Ranking of World Universities placed Ohio State 39-51 nationally and 101–150 globally for 2023." source: https://www.shanghairanking.com/rankings/arwu/2023 8. Change "In its 2021 rankings, Times Higher Education World University Rankings ranked it tied for 80th in the world." to "In its 2024 rankings, Times Higher Education World University Rankings ranked it tied for 99th in the world." source: https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/ohio-state-university-main-campus 9. Change "In 2021, QS World University Rankings ranked the university 108th in the world." to "In 2024, QS World University Rankings ranked the university 151st in the world." source: https://www.topuniversities.com/universities/ohio-state-university 10. Change "The Washington Monthly college rankings, which seek to evaluate colleges' contributions to American society based on factors of social mobility, research and service to the country by their graduates, placed Ohio State 98th among national universities in 2020." to "The Washington Monthly college rankings, which seek to evaluate colleges' contributions to American society based on factors of social mobility, research and service to the country by their graduates, placed Ohio State 61st among national universities in 2023." Audleylibrary (talk) 23:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Table updated except for the source, which I think is part of the template. Going to go look at that, then come have a look at the other stuff. PianoDan (talk) 18:25, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

✅ PianoDan (talk) 18:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2024
JK Simmons is a Buckeyes fan, but he is not an alumnus from OSU. 128.146.189.106 (talk) 21:31, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks! ElKevbo (talk) 21:37, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Proposal to split and reorganize History section
The current History section of this page is poorly organized:

A) The 2016 terrorist attack and 2024 pro-Palestine protests do not make sense being subsections of the Modern Era section, which is very general when it comes to giving an overview of 1980 to the present. Worse, the Vietnam War protest section, being a specific event, is one order higher than other specific events in the History section, which doesn't make intuitive sense.  Therefore, I suggest we split the History section into "Growth" and "Historical Events" sections which will better separate a general overview of the school's history from the specific historical events people would like to read about vising this article.

B) There is significant redundancy between the History section of this article and the History of Ohio State University article. Therefore, I suggest we revise the new "Growth" section of this article to consist predominantly of excerpts from the History of Ohio State University article.  On the same note, I suggest we make the Vietnam War protests section in this article an excerpt of its description from the History of Ohio State University article after moving it from this article to the other.

These are significant changes, so before I take action, does anyone second this notion? Onlineone22 (talk) 14:21, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Current policy on "the" in the article
According to the reversions, while the article name should *not* have the "the", in usage in the article it should. I've been able to find the RMs for the first, but not the discussion of the second, could someone please point out.Naraht (talk) 00:18, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


 * The discussions are in the archives. I'm not sure exactly what you are looking for. The archives aren't really that long, so looking for any discussion that pertains to using THE in the article lead would be useful. Jojhutton (talk) 08:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)