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Administrators' newsletter – April 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2022).

Administrator changes
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Interface administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * An RfC is open proposing a change to the minimum activity requirements for administrators.

Technical news
 * Access to Special:RevisionDelete has been expanded to include users who have the  and   rights. This means that those in the Researcher user group and Checkusers who are not administrators can now access Special:RevisionDelete. The users able to view the special page after this change are the 3 users in the Researcher group, as there are currently no checkusers who are not already administrators.
 * When viewing deleted revisions or diffs on Special:Undelete a back link to the undelete page for the associated page is now present.

Arbitration
 * has been updated to reflect current practice following a motion.
 * A arbitration case regarding Skepticism and coordinated editing has been closed.
 * A arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been opened.

Miscellaneous
 * Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines has closed, and the results were that 56.98% of voters supported the guidelines. The results of this vote mean the Wikimedia Foundation Board will now review the guidelines.

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15.ai
Can you please revdel the personal attack from the most recent IP edit on 15.ai? It also contains a slur. Thanks. wizzito &#124;  say hello!  00:17, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I was staring straight at it and didn't revel. Sorry. Always appreciate your reports. I know they won't be a waste of our time. BusterD (talk) 00:21, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the thanks!

 * Ho, ho, ho! Don't thank me, Thank You! (I feel like Groucho!) I was welcomed way back in the day, and one day when that thanker was thinking of quitting the pedia, I reminded them how their simple gesture had made me feel better about my early wiki-progress. So for someone like yourself, who's been here a bit and perhaps already made a mistake or two, I feel the need to be certain you are noticed and appreciated. Please take this in the warm spirit in which it was intended; don't take this as any sort of special call to action or pushing you to do more. It is our willingness that moves pages to improvement; only with our willingness do we do our best work. We like you exactly the way you were made. If I can ever be helpful, call on me. BusterD (talk) 21:53, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States Presidents has an RFC
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States Presidents has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:39, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

New administrator activity requirement
22:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
It's been a bit so I'm just checkin' in; how have things been for ya?

Curbon7 (talk) 19:43, 20 April 2022 (UTC) 
 * Thank you the nice fluffy aminal. Not producing pagespace. I'm in a reactive mode on WP and RL stress has caused me to focus on healing as opposed to further stress. I found something truly magical yesterday on newspapers.com. I heard this story about a high school athlete who became a high school coach. So I looked him up and have found several hundred mentions in local newspapers (lots of locations and states). Some of the stories directly detail the subject as a toddler (his father was a professor at the university in town), as grade school athlete in multiple sports, a legendary track and field star (the story I heard was that his team finished third in the state championship meet, but he was the only entrant from his school, winning both sprints and the long jump and placing in a fourth event). A coaching career that spanned 50 years, state hall of fame stuff. I'd love to create the page, but he was just a high school coach, mostly small schools. Thinking I'd have a hard time defending it. Maybe if Sporting News or SI covered him. Have to look. Stories out there, just focusing on helping at this moment. My personal writing has been halted a bit as well, just when it was going well. Nice of you to inquire. BusterD (talk) 19:57, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

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Thomas C. Hindman
I recently rewrote Hindman's article so that it could retain featured status and not have to go to WP:FAR. Would you be willing to give it a read-through to make sure I didn't mess anything up? Hog Farm Talk 18:27, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd be delighted. Can you give me 24 hours? I will read it but I'm really busy until after lunch tomorrow. BusterD (talk) 23:41, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks! No rush at all, I don't need to have the books back to the library until mid-May. Hog Farm Talk 00:14, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I doubt it would take me THAT long. Thought about you guys this weekend while I was at Little Wars in Naperville. Would be fun to war game with some of you. BusterD (talk) 00:18, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Feel free to make any changes you feel confident with! I can (hopefully) try to answer anything else.  I've still got all the source material collected together, and I'm going to a charity book sale tomorrow, so maybe I can find some other relevant stuff there. Hog Farm Talk 01:48, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Nice work
Hey, I've run across your attempts to work with User:Carletteyt in various places lately, and have to say you're making a really great effort there. It's good to see that there are still editors around who are willing to work with new and, presumably, young editors to try and turn around the troublesome aspects and teach them well. From the looks of the sockpuppetry the jury's still out on this one, but I wanted to offer a completely unrelated thumbs-up for the effort. Keep it up. Tony Fox (arf!) 21:37, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Appreciate your comment. It's so hard to give up on a human being. I'll let uninvolved admins take care of it today, and hopefully my attempt to engage them will lead to resumption of talk page access in a week or two. I've dangled draft access, and I think I could make that work, if they don't act badly in the meantime. Socking tells me they are reading and comprehending what I'm writing but don't have the self-control. I've been that kid, still am in many ways. Writing on Wikipedia has changed me for the better. WP:AGF has had an enormous influence on my real life. I'm not done learning myself. BusterD (talk) 21:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I second Tony Fox's comment. The amount of effort you are putting into this is admirable, I am impressed by your patience. WP:AGF has also helped me become a better person. Scorpions13256 (talk) 23:06, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!(5)

 * (edit conflict with the brat posting below) Back at you. As I've tried to explain to our young friend, nobody works alone on Wikipedia. Several editors have extended their patience and willingness past their normal range, including several posting here recently. Carletteyt is reading this page now. I hope they know I'm not doing this for any rewards such as they are. I hope they see I'm not giving up. I urge others to take care with the inevitable socking and allow me to make a case on their talk. If things go quiet, I'll ask for a relaxation of their talk page restriction during an hour when they are usually editing (and I mean sixty minutes) to test my hypothesis. BusterD (talk) 23:43, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * If they can lay off the socking for a few days, I will be happy to restore their TPA for the purpose of allowing back and forth communication between the two of you. -Ad Orientem (talk) 23:46, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I think I'll sit the remainder of this out. My sleep quality has been horrendous lately, and it has been impairing my ability to process what people are saying. I was able to mentor successfully, so there may be some hope that this person can improve. BusterD, the barnstar was well deserved, and I am glad you received it. Scorpions13256 (talk) 23:58, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Carletteyt is so, so lucky to have you as a mentor - the analogies and metaphors you've used, the clear and simple language, the lessons and consequences are great. As a new Wikipedian, I've been following along and even though I've read the Five Pillars and as many guidelines and rules as I could, there's just something about thinking of Wikipedia as the biggest book ever that charms me and makes me consider what we're doing differently. Thank you for the lessons. Your patience and gentleness is outstanding, and I think anyone you choose to mentor will be receiving a true gift. StartGrammarTime (talk) 05:29, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * once in a while, it's nice to see my adoptive old man get recognition for his positively gigantic heart and endless patience. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 23:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Well deserved. Bless your patience. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  01:00, 27 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Very well deserved. Buster's one of the friendliest people on Wikipedia. Hog Farm Talk 03:36, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

April
in memory of your koekjes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * What a nice surprise! I'll take flowers over little cakes every time. Men don't get enough flowers, IMHO. BusterD (talk) 09:09, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * thank you! - how about the songs? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:29, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * you deserve an extra flower for mentioning RexxS above - pictured on my talk, twice - one of my songs is on the main page, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:33, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I heartily agree. They're so beautiful - meaningful, too. – ♠Vami _IV†♠  13:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Williams
Sadly, it looks like the article on T. Harry Williams has been deleted as a copyright violation. Hog Farm Talk 03:57, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 * The subject has FA potential. If you plan this right, you might take this from deletion to DYK to the highest heights, and since he's not controversial you wouldn't be catching much from the peanut gallery. This is the top Internet Archive Scholar result. If you wanted to recreate a fresh and new copyvio (or not), it's all in that reviewed tome. I should think info about the man is out there in spades. I own several works. Lincoln and the Radicals is fundamental to my understanding of Stanton and the Committee on the Conduct. It is, however, 80 years old. BusterD (talk) 09:18, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'll put it on my list, which right now consists of rewriting Battle of Van Buren to save it from getting the same fate (one of its primary editors from back in 2013 often violated copyrights) and then bluelinking the Little Rock campaign, which I'm shocked we don't have an article on. I've got Lincoln and His Generals somewhere at home.  Catton was the first one I read - I recently picked up a copy of his American Heritage Picture History of the American Civil War at a charity book sale because it was the first Civil War book I ever read. Hog Farm Talk 13:17, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

The continuing Carletteyt saga
I am the original admin handling the first ANI about Carletteyt, blocking him for 1 week only due to recognizing the potential good faith of the editor. I just caught up on the rest of the story and I would just like to commend you on your persistence with the editor, trying to help him. It may not work out, and I will leave the ongoing handling of the case to the currently handling admin, but I commend you for your kindness and persistence. Oz\InterAct 22:15, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, April 2022
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A beer for you!
Thank you, brother. Too much caffeine today. Appreciate your thinking of me. I get a light early week then I'll get swamped toward the end. Tired. Glad to be alive. BusterD (talk) 07:56, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

nothing

 * couldn't've made it a burger? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 01:43, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Theleekycauldron check your talk. Cheers! Fakescientist8000 22:01, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fakescientist8000: well I appreciate that :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 22:03, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Theleekycauldron ok Cheers! Fakescientist8000 22:34, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of John Hoskins (officer)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article John Hoskins (officer) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 04:41, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).

Administrator changes
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CheckUser changes
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Oversighter changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
 * Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.

Technical news
 * The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
 * A public status system for WMF wikis has been created. It is located at https://www.wikimediastatus.net/ and is hosted separately to WMF wikis so in the case of an outage it will remain viewable.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:33, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

EPAM Ukraine
Hi BusterD. I saw that you sometimes help editors with a disclosed conflict of interest. I was hoping you would be willing to weigh-in regarding my COI request here. I previously posted at BLPN, but it did not prompt much discussion. To the extent one editor seemed to agree, no changes were made. Thank you in advance for your time and attention should you choose to volunteer it. Ladida555 (talk) 16:56, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Dropping in without calling ahead first...
...is just one of my ways of being annoying, but here I am. Just saying hi and hope and trust everything is going swimmingly and that you are enjoying your work here. Herostratus (talk) 00:04, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * My week has been long, and I'm sorry for seeing but not replying to your message. Swamped W-Sat. I'm trying to get back to improving pagespace, and re-learning reviewing technique, trying to step back into my own shoes. This last year I've felt cloudy, muddy and sticky, not like my normal boring self. I thank you for the collegial ping. It is nice of you to think of me. BusterD (talk) 18:19, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure, of course. Seems likes it's been mostly a meh year for most of the people I talk to everywhere. Hopefully the coming months will be better... you know, we all really do appreciate you guys grinding it out here on top of all the claims and pressures of meatspace. Carry on and fear no evil! Herostratus (talk) 18:46, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Lately I've been stressing about my own usefulness. Even when I had extra time I was using it reactively and not proactively. The next few weeks I'll have virtually no time available to edit four days a week and then I'll be really exhausted on my weekend. Have been doing a small something to make myself feel useful. Today trying to build one of my own pages to GA, and then have Vami IV cued up to walk me through another GA review. By getting some of my own work reviewed I can better understand how to review. I have recently admitted I frequently run into a "stuckness" during even the simplest of new page reviews. Going back to basics to work through this headspace/willingness thing. Help from my friends (and my friends need best give me blunt, direct feedback) is always welcome. BusterD (talk) 18:58, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * you let me know if there's any boon you need beg for, i'll be right there :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 19:32, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Your usefulness here you mean? Enh don't worry about that is my advice. First of all, you're useful, of course you are, you're talented at encyclopedia work so how could you not be useful (and especially considering what they're paying you). And, really, we don't want you to try to be more useful than makes you happy. At the end of the day its a hobby. Sometimes it makes me happy to focus on doing something difficult, sometimes it makes me happy to drift thru the material for the sake of reading it and fix occasional typos and whatever. They're both useful, and they're both equally useful to the level of what makes me happy at that moment in time. You don't have to improve your review skills or do anything else on any timeline but what makes you feel good. You don't have to do any administrative tasks, or any other tasks you don't want to, today, this week, or this year, if you don't want. Write about tulips instead or whatever. Sort your socks. Herostratus (talk) 05:26, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Hoskins review
I'm not sure if you saw on my talk page, but I'm taking a bit of a wikibreak for at least a few more days. I'm still trying to keep track of the Hoskins review, but am not particularly active (expect to be back to normalish levels aroud the end of the week. Just ping me if you're ready for me to take another look and I'll see what I can do. Hog Farm Talk 18:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm glad you're taking a LOA. Important for one's gumption. Today Hoskins is directly in my sights. As long as I'm not abusing your patience, I'd rather do this well than quickly. BusterD (talk) 18:44, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Take as long as you need! Quality is certainly better than speed here. Hog Farm Talk 18:47, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Help With Proposed New Draft
Hi BusterD. Hope this finds you well. I was hoping you might be willing to review my COI request here (and subsequent ones if willing). Many thanks Daizypeach (talk) 10:46, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * In my opinion this subject doesn't meet the standard for inclusion and the page is entirely promotional in tone, even after significant trimming by other wikipedians. I'd be more inclined to accept an article on the business, which is what the sources directly detail. Wikipedians are volunteers, which means they can choose which efforts they wish to undertake. I'm going to decline to make any effort on this subject at this time. BusterD (talk) 16:34, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Congrats
Hello BD. I saw this post and had to stop by and say congrats on your honorary jewish motherhood! Cheers. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 15:17, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's a strange thing to feel slightly less... gentile than before. I'd say I didn't seek out any such honor, just a prune pastry. I'm just very proud of my bi-coastal girls, both in RL and onwiki. BusterD (talk) 16:14, 21 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently Special:ListUsers/patroller New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing on their talk page.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

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I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hello, BusterD

Thank you for creating Evina Westbrook.

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Templates
I was on a very hectic work trip last week and wasn't able to stay caught up with stuff. I saw the ACW campaign templates TFD was just relisted; I imagine there's going to need to be some workshopping to determine the best template format. Any ideas on the best way to do that would be appreciated. Also RE Hoskins - I haven't been able to follow that article closely between my wikibreak and the messy work strip, so please ping me when you're ready for me to take another look. Hog Farm Talk 20:59, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Very kind of you to think of me. My days have grown increasingly strenuous, and while not harmful or unhealthful, the tempo is taxing in more than one way. I'm taking on stress which isn't mine to own, for example. Not ENOUGH screen time, for a change. The things we do to keep our promises. On the other hand, after I get some sleep, I expect to dive into Uncle John. Will buzz you when. I've spent some time working with Atsme and NPP this week and I'm not done tasking her yet. I am very interested is getting the templates sorted out; your concept seems reasonable and discuss-able. And then I want to get comfortable improving some of my better work. BusterD (talk) 04:33, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCIII, May 2022
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Featured picture scheduled for POTD
Hi BusterD,

This is to let you know that File:USPostRoadMap1804.jpg, a featured picture you uploaded, has been selected as the English Wikipedia's picture of the day (POTD) for October 20, 2022. A preview of the POTD is displayed below and can be edited at Template:POTD/2022-10-20. If you have any concerns, please place a message at Wikipedia talk:Picture of the day. Thank you! Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.9% of all FPs 12:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – June 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Tamzin
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Barek • Darkwind • Geometry guy • ProcseeBot • RoyBoy • Sean Whitton • Valereee • Visorstuff • WAvegetarian
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CheckUser changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Several areas of improvement collated from community member votes have been identified in the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines. The areas of improvement have been sent back for review and you are invited to provide input on these areas.

Technical news
 * Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages.
 * The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under . Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 2 of the Rachel Marsden case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to delete or reduce to a stub, together with their talk pages, articles related to Rachel Marsden when they violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.
 * An arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been closed.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Re: Hatted post
I think it's a bit odd that you would ask me to un-hat that IP's post considering the discussion directly above it which explicitly endorsed hatting uncivil and trolly commentary, but I did as you asked. WaltCip- (talk)  12:32, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Nathaniel Lyon and mustard
A bit of an obscure topic, but I'm a bit doubtful of this old addition. I just finished reading Phillips' bio of Lyon, and noted no reference to mustard whatsoever (although it does mention a love of candy). The sources I can find mentioning this online I largely suspect to be pulling the fact from here. Pinging in case they've read anything on this subject as well.

I'm hoping at some point this summer when I am less busy with work to re-work Lyon's article - it has several problems. As to General Nathaniel Lyon camped near Windsor, Missouri (southeast of Kansas City) in 1861. The small settlement is almost abandoned now, but had a postmaster until 1901. - I've been to the linked Windsor, and it is most certainly not "almost abandoned" and I do believe it still has a post office. According to a witness General Lyon was killed by a soldier named John Morgan after he was completely surrounded by Confederate soldiers. He said "The bravest man I ever saw was General Lyon. After he was completely surrounded, and pulled off of his horse, he picked up rocks and fought with thousands of men around him. He struck Will Morgan in the face with a rock, and John Morgan shot him with an old-fashioned horse pistol, killing him appears to be the garbled recollections of old age, as no scholarly source I have ever read agrees with this whatsoever.

I also find it a bit concerning that Lyon's article doesn't mention his pre-Mexican War court martial for excessive cruelty in punishing a drunken subordinate or his machinations to get his superior at Ft. Riley removed. I'm hoping work lets off enough this summer for me to take this up as a project. Hog Farm Talk 03:49, 14 June 2022 (UTC)


 * . I did not need to look it up anywhere because the mustard edit was obviously bogus. I deleted the bogus paragraph from the Nathaniel Lyon article, which had a citation needed tag from 2007, after finding the following: The IP editor who added it had 7 edits. The first corrected a misspelled word so the first edit was not vandalism, probably a test or smokescreen. The unreferenced mustard edit was added to Nathaniel Lyon, Battle of Wilson's Creek (deleted 18 days later) and Jennifer Lopez (reverted as vandalism 5 minutes later). Another one of the IP's edits added this to IBM Blue Gene: "When this occurs, human beings will become obsolete. Blue Gene /Q will take over the running of the planet, and human beings will be relegated to a zoo-like existence." It was reverted 17 minutes later. An unreferenced edit to Stollen: "In America, the best stollen available comes from Wisconsin" was reverted the next day. This edit to Salma Hayek in 2006, the last of the IP's edits: "At the 2005 Oscars, Ms. Hayek was easily the most beautiful on the red carpet" lasted 5 hours. Obvious vandal or troll. I've seen this type of thing before: See List of hoaxes on Wikipedia/George K. Broomhall. My hoax report is on the article talk page. The article lasted 11.46 years and was one of the top five longest lasting hoax articles at the time. It has slipped down the list to 42nd now if I counted correctly. Donner60 (talk) 04:48, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
 * Backlog status

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
 * Backlog drive

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
 * TIP – New school articles

There is a new template available,, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
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Red River
I was just thinking the other day that I didn't have a campaign study on the Red River campaign (although I did borrow and read a copy of Johnson's Politics and Cotton several years ago). Any recommendations on what a good one-volume treatment of the campaign would be? I've got Kerby's Kirby Smith's Confederacy but that's a much broader work than just Red River. Hog Farm Talk 01:26, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
 * I wound up getting Johnson pretty cheap at a used bookstore, and was able to pick up Eicher's The Longest Night there cheaply, as well. I read about 300-700 pages a month, so I've ended up with a fairly large library. Hog Farm Talk 19:40, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm so sorry I spaced on this. I own several books on the subject but I don't consider any of them particularly good. Ludwell Johnson is one, but the scholarship is 1958. I also own a hardback copy of David Porter's much older history of the navy during the war (likely available via internet archive) and I find Porter an excellent narrator, if often involved. BusterD (talk) 19:50, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
It's been a while, how have things been?

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The Bugle: Issue CXCIV, June 2022
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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
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Martin Scorsese request protection
Hello administrator, page about Martin Scorsese have protection but needs label.

Thanks 37.134.249.165 (talk) 19:14, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Education question (as opposed to the usual bitching)
Greetings, thanks for page protection at the notability policy. I see you cited edit warring and that surprised me. Writings on consensus admit that consensus can be achieved by a back and forth process of editing that accomodates feedback, which is what I did. I boldly floated a change, it was reverted for a reason not based in fact so I restored my changes. Someone else re-reverted it for a really excellent reason, and I first restored my original changes, then added an edit to address the basis for the second revert (which makes the collaborated change even better). You called this edit warring........... I see the evolution of ever-more-excellent description of actual practice. Just to be clear, as I have said in various edit summaries, I am not intending to change practice, only to describe it with greater clarity, especially for newbies. I accept that you see edit warring... may I ask....

Where did I err?

NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 20:19, 19 July 2022 (UTC)


 * I'd prefer NOT to judge who is acting correctly and who is acting incorrectly, because I want to assume good faith every editor involved is here to build the world's best online encyclopedic resource. What is apparent to an uninvolved admin like myself is that we shouldn't normally evolve policyspace and guidelinespace without discussing good faith disagreements on the relevant talk page. Please hash this out on THAT talk page, not here, and certainly not in live pages, especially ones devoted to guidance. BusterD (talk) 20:25, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, and FYI, the other ed seems happy with both the process and result, based on our sidebar at User_talk:North8000 NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 03:12, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Challenging the NAC at Talk:Technoblade's RfC. Thank you. - Aoidh (talk) 17:13, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Continued disruption at Dangiwacha
Hi, I think a resumption of page protection, which you applied some months ago, would be appropriate. The page protection noticeboard is a mess right now, so I'm corresponding with you directly. Thanks and cheers, 2601:19E:4180:6D50:0:0:0:F5BD (talk) 15:10, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for the request. BusterD (talk) 17:00, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you. 2601:19E:4180:6D50:0:0:0:F5BD (talk) 23:30, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Regarding vanadlism by User:FilmiKeeda420
BusterD Hi. I wanted to bring to your notice that the above mentioned user vandalized my draft Semmkhor which I created for AfC submission. (They vandalized by hijacking my draft, which I haven't submitted.) The user's vandalism is in this diff. May I request to take action as per AFC rules? - Signed by NeverTry4Me Talk 09:32, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVI, July 2022
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YGM
I don't know why this template doesn't auto add the subject and auto sign. Do you happen to know a good template editor?  Atsme 💬 📧 22:31, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Clueless I. BusterD (talk) 22:59, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Clueless that you've got mail, or clueless about the template?  Atsme 💬 📧 00:23, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Clueless how to explain to a friend I'd rather not reply to her email. I can't explain and choose not to do so. Please forgive me. BusterD (talk) 16:02, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You just did, so it's all good. Exercising one's prerogative does not require forgiveness, especially in light of the fact that it was I who wrote to apologize to you, with no expectations. I respect your choice to leave it at that, and in turn will leave you with this little tidbit, hoping it will at least bring a smile. Best wishes,  Atsme 💬 📧 20:29, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If you'd be so kind, I need to ask two small favors, one directly NPP related: 1) Please look over my comments at Articles for deletion/Horizons Ventures. Did I say anything out of bounds, including in edit summary? 2) How do I deal with this sort of failure to source new page creations? Thanks in any event. BusterD (talk) 09:02, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

My apologies for the tardy response, – I've been remiss in some of my duties following July's emotional roller coaster, but I'm back, and happy to answer your questions. To avoid having you lose faith in my ability to annoy, I pinged you here on your UTP, and will expound on my answers to your questions. while skirting the limits of tl;dr – sorry, but I just don't have the time to make it shorter. A simple answer: I interpreted your comments to be informatively direct, one of which could be considered forceful but not out of bounds. To expound from an NPP perspective: content and WP:PAGs are of primary importance to a reviewer, so when an editor objects to their article being at AfD, the reviewer's response should focus on content, be succinct, polite and policy-based. It is not unusual for an editor to respond defensively or even combatively. They may also exhibit hypersensitivity toward responses they disagree with, or simply don't want to hear. The least little thing can trigger it which is why reviewers should discuss content and relative PAGs, and avoid using pronouns or mentioning the editor, even when it is good intentioned. It is also not unusual for a reviewer to nominate an article for AfD, present their initial argument, and unwatch the page. A reviewer's job is technically done once the AfD has been established.
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 * Relative PAGs
 * WP:PROMO is typically the first policy considered when corp/org is involved, but it also points to several other policies, various caveats and nuances that would apply;
 * WP:ORGCRITE – A company, corporation, organization, group, product, or service is presumed notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. These criteria, generally, follow the general notability guideline with a stronger emphasis on quality of the sources to prevent gaming of the rules by marketing and public relations professionals. Note the use of "generally", and the mistaken belief that the quality of the sources "prevent gaming" – meh, that's a rather naive position in my view. WMF allows PE, so our job is basically to act as new article janitors, and remove the promo language, peacock terms, etc. which sometimes feels like we are accommodating PE, or whatever other reasons editors have for wanting to create these types of articles, such as believing it has encyclopedic value per ORGSIG. I'm just generalizing not implying that PE applies in the AfD subject of this discussion.
 * WP:ORGSIG – Must have significant coverage, but there is a hitch in the get-along of depth of coverage (my bold underline): "When evaluating the notability of organizations or products, please consider whether they have had any  significant or demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education . Large organizations and their products are likely to have more readily available verifiable information from reliable sources that provide evidence of notability.  However, smaller organizations and their products can be notable, just as individuals can be notable. Arbitrary standards should not be used to create a bias favoring larger organizations or their products, though articles about very small "garage" or local companies are typically unacceptable per WP:NOTADVERTISING."
 * WP:INHERITORG – this is the guideline where I see HV failing N, and justifiably a redirect. They have fingers in multiple notable pies, but the notability of those pies is not inherited.

The options are: (1) find sources for the articles that have none, or (2) tag the articles as unsourced, or (3) draftify them and (4) contact the relative WP:Project Teams and advise them of what you did, and then (5) I'd go through the necessary steps to prevent that editor from creating another unsourced article in main space. In fact, I'm going to query who edits in some of those topic areas, and get his input. I think I've covered everything, so don't hesitate to ping me if you have further questions.  Atsme 💬 📧 04:59, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Failure to provide a source

2022 Men's Challenger Cup request to unprotect
Please remove the semi-protection on 2022 FIVB Volleyball Men's Challenger Cup as I make a lot of contributions to update that page. Thank you! 155.137.110.195 (talk) 08:20, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * It seems your edits are often disputed. I'm declining for now. BusterD (talk) 08:23, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm the one who prevents and undoing others' edits from disrupting the page and I'm the one's disputed? Just because I don't have an account? It seems like a discrimination on my part. 155.137.110.195 (talk) 09:00, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Your IP has a contribution history which dates back all of six hours. There was a request for page protection which claimed ip editors were adding scores DURING events. Your address appeared to involved. If you promise you will not make such entries and defend against such entries, I'll relax the protection. Agreed? BusterD (talk) 09:07, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay I agree and promise on that condition. I'll be more careful and thanks a lot! 155.137.110.195 (talk) 09:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * That you offered to discuss and are willing to help stands highly in your favor. I appreciate your engaging. Pardon me for inquiring, but I'm always curious: why don't you choose to create a log in? I'm not putting such an unregistered editor down, I'd like to have some idea. Wikipedia always needs new and interested usernames... BusterD (talk) 09:17, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I just like to edit and update about all volleyball competitions that have wiki article page. 155.137.110.195 (talk) 09:38, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * When logged out, an ip reveals more than a registered account might. BTW, I grew up on garlic rice and lumpia. Still don't understand how American pubs haven't figured out lumpia shanghai yet. We lived in San Miguel on the west coast of Luzon when I was six. Navy dad. Miss the islands; people were so nice. All the best. BusterD (talk) 09:49, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi admin BusterD, here I am again. Actually I have an account named Aquarian0218 and it's been blocked due vandalism since July 10 and I tried to unblock request twice but still denied. Would you mind to help me to get it unblock? 155.137.111.38 (talk) 13:45, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2022).



Administrator changes
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 * An RfC has been closed with consensus to add javascript that will show edit notices for editors editing via a mobile device. This only works for users using a mobile browser, so iOS app editors will still not be able to see edit notices.
 * An RfC has been closed with the consensus that train stations are not inherently notable.

Technical news
 * The Wikimania 2022 Hackathon will take place virtually from 11 August to 14 August.
 * Administrators will now see links on user pages for "Change block" and "Unblock user" instead of just "Block user" if the user is already blocked. (T308570)

Arbitration
 * The arbitration case request Geschichte has been automatically closed after a 3 month suspension of the case.

Miscellaneous
 * You can vote for candidates in the 2022 Board of Trustees elections from 16 August to 30 August. Two community elected seats are up for election.
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New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello ,

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators and, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
 * Backlog status

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.


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Mind giving me a readthrough?
Would you mind giving me a readthrough of Draft:Betty Hall (politician). I'm done and am just about ready to move it to main, just waiting to get a few responses for some image copyright releases. You don't have to give it a copyedit if you don't want, just a readthrough to make sure it's legible would suffice Curbon7 (talk) 06:20, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
 * (As a new page reviewer) I read it twice and I think it's perfectly acceptable. I come out of the reading finding her a fascinating figure as I've already disclosed and think the page is somewhere in the c-class rating category. Since you've called on me, I suspect you'd like some critique, so please forgive me if my comments are somewhat direct. I have written articles like yours, that is, sourced entirely from newspapers. It appears to be very difficult to find sourced general statements about the subject and that's a clue that this subject while passsing GNG may not be regarded as notable because a reasonable argument could be presented all your sources are from a very narrow range of outlets, geographically. Something I don't like in my writing is lots of pronouns, a signal to myself that all my sentences are very similar in construction. A chronology is not by itself a biography. Do you take my meaning? BusterD (talk) 20:28, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Regarding your last point, I read a really good essay on here the other day (I forget the title), but it was basically about not letting the prose of articles read like a list; I've been trying to be much more mindful of that, as with bios of people with a limited berth of sources, that tends to creep in. Curbon7 (talk) 09:11, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

"2022 Hoover Dam explosion" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect 2022 Hoover Dam explosion and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 14 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 08:00, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

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Amy Adams
I revised the caption because the original sounds as though she got the nomination at the ceremony she’s shown attending. Wis2fan (talk) 03:53, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for engaging. If you look at your version again, you'll see that two words were left outside the caption. That was what caught my eye. Your change in caption text is just fine, is better. But old fuddy-duddy that I am, please give your preview a good look before saving changes. Having a fresh set of eyes is why this place works so well, and why I'm always happy to help. I'm counting on you to spot stuff I miss. BusterD (talk) 06:58, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

AfD
Hi, you requested that I refrain from PRODs and AfDs until some sort of question about NOHARM and GEOLAND is resolved. Could you explain what exactly you mean by that? What is it about my nominations that makes you question my judgement (vs simply disagreeing and !voting Keep) and what is it that needs to be figured out in order for you to be comfortable with me resuming deletion activities? –dlthewave ☎ 16:15, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for engaging, and I'm sorry if my tone this morning was not ideal. The last thing I wish to do is to interrupt the good work of you, an editor I admire. I'd rather find agreement than maintain any adversarial tone in multiple processes. My concern is now I'm about to make several virtually identical keep assertions in all these lake AfDs and instead of merely doing so, I'd like to resolve whatever disagreements we may have BEFORE you nominate further geostubs and we waste anyone's time, including yours. If you wish to discuss this, I'd suggest pursuing the discussion at Articles for deletion/Forget-me-not Lakes (Wyoming). Do you plan on prodding or nominating more of User:MONGO's geostubs at this time? BusterD (talk) 17:22, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

Pinged
You pinged me in on this edit: which I find bizarre, as I had already said, in this edit:  that I would not discuss the matter further on that talk page. I was then the subject of a personal attack from someone I have never corresponded with, and which I did not respond to. Why am I being singled out here? Group dynamics? Thanks for your thoughts. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:05, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for engaging. You are not being singled out, as I hoped the phrase "and other editors" would signify. Perhaps I should have not pinged, and for that I apologize. Group dynamics is always a big part of working together on Wikipedia. Talk page lurking is a thing and as a NPP trainer, Atsme has acquired many allies and talk page watchers. Heck, I chose Atsme as a mentor specifically because WE DO disagree all the time and I value her varying views. I appreciate your posting here, and I hope you and I can learn to disagree (or agree) in such a civil way. BusterD (talk) 14:27, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * How is it we've never interacted? Looking at your userboxes I see we have lots in common, esp the last three rows. BusterD (talk) 14:59, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. I actually thought we had interacted in the past as I was sure I knew your name (I was hoping to find some past discussion where I could say "look, we agreed already, but alas no. looking at some of the likely places, I cannot find pages we both edited). But I do know your name, so I expect there are places. Over the past couple of years I have been logged out of Wikipedia and only made IP edits (which I claimed on my talk page to avoid any suggestion I was trying to game the system). All the same, it is funny how some editors you bump into all over the place and others you somehow miss for years! Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 17:18, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVII, August 2022
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations opening soon
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are opening in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 1 September). A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:51, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

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 * A discussion is open to define a process by which Vector 2022 can be made the default for all users.
 * An RfC is open to gain consensus on whether Fox News is reliable for science and politics.

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 * The impact report on the effects of disabling IP editing on the Persian (Farsi) Wikipedia has been released.
 * The WMF is looking into making a Private Incident Reporting System (PIRS) system to improve the reporting of harmful incidents through easier and safer reporting. You can leave comments on the talk page by answering the questions provided. Users who have faced harmful situations are also invited to join a PIRS interview to share the experience. To sign up please email Madalina Ana.

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 * The arbitration case request Jonathunder has been automatically closed after a 6 month suspension of the case.

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 * The new pages patrol (NPP) team has prepared an appeal to the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) for assistance with addressing Page Curation bugs and requested features. You are encouraged to read the open letter before it is sent, and if you support it, consider signing it. It is not a discussion, just a signature will suffice.
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Board of Trustees election
Thank you for supporting the NPP initiative to improve WMF support of the Page Curation tools. Another way you can help is by voting in the Board of Trustees election. The next Board composition might be giving attention to software development. The election closes on 6 September at 23:59 UTC. View candidate statement videos and Vote Here. MB 03:18, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting opening soon!
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election opens in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 15 September) and will last through 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Correction to previous election announcement
Just a quick correction to the prior message about the 2022 MILHIST coordinator election! I didn't proofread the message well enough and left out a link to the election page itself in this message. The voting will occur here; sorry about the need for a second message and the inadvertent omission from the prior one. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:40, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  21:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting closing soon
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election closes soon, at 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. The voting itself is occurring here If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:13, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, September 2022
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 * Following an RfC, consensus was found that if the rationale for a block depends on information that is not available to all administrators, that information should be sent to the Arbitration Committee, a checkuser or an oversighter for action (as applicable, per ArbCom's recent updated guidance) instead of the administrator making the block.
 * Following an RfC, consensus has been found that, in the context of politics and science, the reliability of FoxNews.com is unclear and that additional considerations apply to its use.
 * Community comment on the revised Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines is requested until 8 October.

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 * The Articles for creation helper script now automatically recognises administrator accounts which means your name does not need to be listed at WP:AFCP to help out. If you wish to help out at AFC, enable AFCH by navigating to and checking the "Yet Another AfC Helper Script" box.

Arbitration
 * Remedy 8.1 of the Muhammad images case will be rescinded 1 November following a motion.
 * A modification to the deletion RfC remedy in the Conduct in deletion-related editing case has been made to reaffirm the independence of the RfC and allow the moderators to split the RfC in two.
 * The second phase of the 2021-22 Discretionary Sanctions Review closes 3 October.

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 * An administrator's account was recently compromised. Administrators are encouraged to check that their passwords are secure, and reminded that ArbCom reserves the right to not restore adminship in cases of poor account security. You can also use two-factor authentication (2FA) to provide an extra level of security.
 * Self-nominations for the electoral commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections open 2 October and close 8 October.
 * You are invited to comment on candidates in the 2022 CUOS appointments process.
 * An RfC is open to discuss whether to make Vector 2022 the default skin on desktop.
 * Tech tip: You can do a fuzzy search of all deleted page titles at Special:Undelete.

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Your GA nomination of John Hoskins (officer)
The article John Hoskins (officer) you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:John Hoskins (officer) for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hog Farm -- Hog Farm (talk) 09:01, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Thoughts?
I've left some thoughts about a bit of a quandary of mine over at the main MILHIST talk page. I'd be grateful to hear what you think about the item, if you have time. Hog Farm Talk 18:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCVIII, October 2022
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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022
Hello , Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to ), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also. Software news: and  have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved. Suggestions:
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Backlog: Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!


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Would you mind unprotecting this? The entire point of template doc pages is that they are generally not protected even if the template is. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:46, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Done. I've reduced the protection to indef semi and indef ec move. In the moment last November the page was under regular attack from IPs. Is there any reason an IP should be editing or moving this resource? BusterD (talk) 16:36, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Not really. Semi-protection is fine here. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:53, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 October 2022
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Administrators' newsletter – November 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-add.svg Isabelle Belato · Whpq
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Guideline and policy news
 * The article creation at scale RfC opened on 3 October and will be open until at least 2 November.
 * An RfC is open to discuss having open requests for adminship automatically placed on hold after the seven-day period has elapsed, pending closure or other action by a bureaucrat.

Arbitration
 * Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 13 November 2022 until 22 November 2022 to stand in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections.
 * The arbitration case request titled Athaenara has been resolved by motion.
 * The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has entered the proposed decision stage.
 * , and  have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2022 Arbitration Committee Elections.  and  are reserve commissioners.

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 * The 2022 CheckUser and Oversight appointments process has concluded with the appointment of two new CheckUsers.
 * You can add yourself to the centralised page listing time zones of administrators.
 * Tech tip: Wikimarkup in a block summary is parsed in the notice that the blockee sees. You can use templates with custom options to specify situations like or.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:22, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Gerard Pique
Hi Buster You seem to have locked the page for Gerard Picque. Sure there were reasons but atm it states he is Spanish which is incorrect. He is of course famously Catalan. Are you able to edit? Glyn 2A00:23C8:1686:DD01:286A:66FB:2192:593E (talk) 17:45, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * You are correct that at one point I semi-protected this page against vandalism, although my regime of protection has expired and another admin's protection is now applied. I see there's been a comment today agreeing to your position on Talk:Gerard Piqué. My suggestion is to take your issue to that talk page and pursue it there. I will not be editing the Piqué page myself. BusterD (talk) 18:16, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXCIX, November 2022
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Nomination of List of ID10T with Chris Hardwick episodes for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of ID10T with Chris Hardwick episodes is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of ID10T with Chris Hardwick episodes until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. TipsyElephant (talk) 23:40, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 November 2022
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Eddie891 · Euryalus · TheresNoTime
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Alex.muller · Excirial · RedWordSmith · Ron Ritzman · TheresNoTime · Stephen

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CheckUser changes
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Oversight changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * Consensus has been found in an RfC to automatically place RfAs on hold after one week.
 * The article creation at scale RfC has been closed.
 * An RfC on the banners for the December 2022 fundraising campaign has been closed.

Technical news
 * A new preference named "Enable limited width mode" has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also shown as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. When disabled it removes the whitespace added by Vector 2022 on the left and right of the page content. Disabling this preference has the same effect as enabling the wide-vector-2022 gadget.

Arbitration
 * Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 12, 2022 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.
 * The proposed decision for the 2021-22 review of the discretionary sanctions system is open.
 * The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has been closed.
 * The arbitration case Stephen has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 1 December 2022.
 * A motion has modified the procedures for contacting an admin facing Level 2 desysop.

Miscellaneous
 * Tech tip: A single IPv6 connection usually has access to a "subnet" of 18 quintillion IPs. Add  to the end of an IP in Special:Contributions to see all of a subnet's edits, and consider blocking the whole subnet rather than an IP that may change within a minute.

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The Bugle: Issue CC, December 2022
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Merry Christmas!
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BOZ (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding to their talk page with a friendly message.

I'm wishing you a Merry Christmas, because that is what I celebrate. Feel free to take a "Happy Holidays" or "Season's Greetings" if you prefer. :) BOZ (talk) 23:04, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks dude! I'm a Christmas guy. And I have Huskies so we MAKE yellow snow. Watch out where they go... BusterD (talk) 00:39, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

 * Thanks, man. Have the merriest of seasons. BusterD (talk) 03:10, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

 * Nice of you to think of me. Thanks. I hope your new year is happy and successful. BusterD (talk) 01:11, 26 December 2022 (UTC)