User talk:David Levy/Archive7

Ambiguous statement
Re [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment&diff=prev&oldid=637747420] due to the ambiguity of the indenting and the pronoun "that" I don't know what you're agreeing with. NE Ent 11:40, 12 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I was responding to SergeWoodzing, who seconded my recommendation that users "read the two sections instead of relying on SergeWoodzing's account or mine." The indentation became ambiguous when Vanisaac accidentally  above my message (instead of below it).  —David Levy 12:23, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi there!
Read your message on my talk page. No hard feelings at my end. Thanks for 'Fiona'! :) All the best to you. AnonNep (talk) 11:25, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Are you the David Levy that discovered the comet that hit Jupiter?
Shoemaker-Levy 9 (1994) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sagittarian Milky Way (talk • contribs) 04:38, 17 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Nope. I'm an American with no claim to fame.  —David Levy 12:00, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
 Dear, MERRY CHRISTMAS !!! Best wishes to you, your family and relatives this holiday season! Take this opportunity to bond with your loved ones, whether or not you are celebrating Christmas. This is a special time for everybody, and spread the holiday spirit to everybody out there! From a fellow editor, --Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook)

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Merry Christmas
Hi, This is BnPerdue16, I don't know how to leave a message so I'm hoping this will work. Anyway, Stennisville is NOT a hoax. It is real. It is where Napoleon used to be before they located the settlers off the land in the 1960's for the building of Stennis Space Center. Several homeless people continue to dwell there. It is located back in a thicket next to the space center. A barbed wire fence boarders it on one side and and the highway to Pearlington borders it on the other side. The reason I know about it is because my grandfather lived there for many years, and died there. I've seen it before. The workers at the space center are unaware of it, because the highway department are the ones who allow the homeless to stay there. there is a page for Napoleon at this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon,_Mississippi. It is no longer referred to as Napoleon though, it is now called Stennisville. I suggest that you delete the page for Napoleon and replace it with the page that I created. Thank you so much for contacting me, and I hope we can get this all cleared up quickly :) -Benjamin Perdue (AKA BnPerdue16), Downers Grove, IL — Preceding unsigned comment added by BnPerdue16 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Vice President of Ghana
An article that you have been involved in editing, Vice President of Ghana, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. →Enock 4 seth (talk) 14:44, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks yourself!
I appreciate that you pay attention to the "forced bold lead" nonsense; it really drives me nuts. Plus the guy got it wrong, the poisoning was reported to the world press on the 11th, but occurred on the 9th. μηδείς (talk) 23:00, 13 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Indeed, the resultant statement (that the poisoning occurred when when it was reported) was utterly nonsensical. Thanks again for reverting.  —David Levy 23:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I've reverted a second time from a different user, so I added some hidden boilerplate and a comment on talk. I have also restored the pluperfect past where it was grammatically correct--it is odd how this scares people.  So I ask you share the style-ogre burden and stay on top of the MOS:BOLDTITLE issue.  Thanks. μηδείς (talk) 03:22, 14 January 2015 (UTC)


 * You were mentioned at ANI when I asked that the IP vandal be blocked. μηδείς (talk) 18:30, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

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File:Historical.png listed for deletion
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Historical.png, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 20:54, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

Add bs.wiki to the list
Hi David. Some time ago there was a discussion about adding bs.wiki on this list. If there are no further arguments against it, could you please perform this addition? Thanks. -- Edinwiki (talk) 18:14, 11 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Done. —David Levy 18:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you David. Could you also please update the template for the main page interwikis? Regards -- Edinwiki (talk) 11:33, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. My apologies for forgetting.  —David Levy 15:36, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

O great Main Page Picture Czar...
Prokopis Pavlopoulos is the top item in ITN, and has a valid pic to go with it. Can you update? Grassy ass. -- Jayron 32 00:13, 21 February 2015 (UTC)


 * Done. —David Levy 01:25, 21 February 2015 (UTC)


 * You da man... -- Jayron 32 01:30, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

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ITN image
I note you've updated the image to show one of the victims of the recent helicopter crash, for which thanks. But... there has been some discussion as to whether it is appropriate to highlight just one of the three notable deceased, when we have free images for all three. If the article is still pictured when you're next around could you possibly rotate in one of the other two? Many thanks, Espresso Addict (talk) 22:49, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello! Indeed, I planned such a rotation (barring the addition of a new item with an image).  In the past, I believe that we've usually waited about a day, so that's what I had in mind.  Do you think that sooner would be better?  —David Levy 23:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Excellent! I'd suggest rotating more frequently than 24 hours, if you've got the energy, to make it clear there's a rotation ongoing and reduce the likelihood of one being left out. 12 hours, perhaps -- if that works in your timezone, of course? (I really must get my head around how to protect main-page images if one isn't a Commons admin.) Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 23:36, 11 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Instead of rotating the images manually, I set up some code to handle it automatically on a pseudo-random basis (with one in three odds of a particular image being displayed in a given page load). —David Levy 00:50, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


 * That's a very good solution, thank you. Espresso Addict (talk) 00:54, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Cascading protection on templates
I noticed you recently applied cascading protection to Template:In the news/random; I watch for this because cascading protection on templates is usually the wrong thing to do (details at WP:PROT). In this case, it looks like you have already protected the intentional subtemplates, and further if it really does become transcluded onto Main Page then the main page's cascading protection will handle it (and do so correctly even if the template gets a /doc subpage). Is there a reason for the cascading protection on this template specifically that I'm missing? Anomie⚔ 18:33, 14 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I cascaded the protection as a measure of redundancy. Did this cause some sort of harm that I'm missing?
 * In fact, Template:In the news/random exists purely to enable said redundancy and prevent the subpages thereof from having no immediate parent page; it isn't intended to serve any other purpose. Only the aforementioned subpages were transcluded at Main Page (via Template:In the news), and any future reuse (which is strictly hypothetical at this point) would be the same.  —David Levy 23:11, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The harm is only that protecting a template itself doesn't always behave like people would expect.
 * I note that Template:Random number is currently cascade-protected thanks only to this template. Template:Mod too, but that's already fully-protected so it doesn't matter so much. Anomie⚔ 21:56, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I hadn't noticed that random number's protection level was reduced (and I'm not sure that it should have been, but that's a separate matter).  I've removed the cascading protection.  —David Levy 23:37, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

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Grass
Thanks for your help re Günter Grass ITN. Sca (talk) 21:10, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Comment on mk.wiki topic
Hello David. Can you take a look at my commment, including statistical facts about mk.wiki. I wrote it some time ago, so I hope it will be informative. Cheers --B. Jankuloski (talk) 18:33, 15 April 2015 (UTC)


 * As you may have noticed, I've been too busy to edit lately. I promise to look over the information when I have the time.  If I forget again, please whack me with a wet fish.  —David Levy 19:38, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Odd stuff at ITN images
Hi David, thanks for all your image work at ITN, but right now, at least in Safari, I'm seeing just one image and a } in the blurb. I have no idea what that crazy "random" syntax is up to, so perhaps you could fix it? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:02, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Despite this, it's still broken as far as I'm concerned.... The Rambling Man (talk) 20:17, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Drat. I was about to ask.  Does it look exactly the same as before?  Also, have you tried purging your cache?  (If not, please click here to do it.) .  —David Levy 20:21, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Curly bracket gone, but just one image, I thought it was intended to show both images? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:29, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Due to server-side caching, the page's content isn't updated in real time. If you clear your client-side cache (an easy way being to use the "Reload this page" link in the OTD section), you should see the image change within a moment or two.
 * Apologies for the bracket error. I looked over and tested the code (with different results on my end, obviously) countless times, but I still managed to miss those curls.  —David Levy 20:39, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, bad curly bracket gone, but not seeing both images, was that the intent? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:50, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * For the record, I see either image when I reload the page a few times. It doesn't strictly alternate for me, but the two images do show somewhat randomly in succession.  -- Jayron 32 20:53, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Never mind. For some reason now, the main page is only showing the man's image, while T:ITN is only showing the female image.  Weird.  -- Jayron 32 20:57, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed, but WP:ITN is still showing a curly bracket. Perhaps we should just revert to a single normal image until we understand all this freakiness?  The Rambling Man (talk) 20:59, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Did your subsequent dummy edit take care of the bracket issue on your end? —David Levy 21:37, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
 * The images are alternating, but not as frequently as last time. As far as I can tell, the servers currently are slower to update transclusions (including the two that you mentioned, which happened to differ).
 * Nonetheless, the swaps should still result in the display of each image approximately 50% of the time. —David Levy 21:37, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

I reversed your edit
Based on MOS:BOLDTITLE. The media is calling it the Nepal earthquake. I mentioned the seismologists reports but it is not necessary to wait for them. I don't see how we're seeing this so differently, but I certainly see how you've spent a lot of energy on this. I don't think that's necessary either; we can both relax and move on. We simply bold the titles because its the given name. That's what the MoS says to do. Like I said, there's a few cases where earthquake articles have not done this. I have seen them and have not applied bold because of a lack of coverage. This one has media talking about it with this name. Dawnseeker2000  04:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)


 * I attempted to discuss the matter with you. I spent a great deal of time writing an explanation of my position, only to receive the curt reply "I don't know where you're going with this. It's fine. Have a great night."  You then explicitly confirmed that you were "dismissing [my] concern" because you were "trying to relax".  Only then (after being told by you – the reverter – that my input would be ignored) did I reinstate my edit.
 * And now you've reverted again (and again ignored my explanation and reiterated the same argument to which it was a response). This is unacceptable.  You can either comply with Wikipedia's communication standards (by addressing good-faith questions and comments, as explained on the two pages to which I linked in the talk page edit that you reverted) or you can "relax" and dismiss the matter (effectively conceding the point).  You can't have it both ways.  —David Levy 04:21, 30 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Nothing was conceded. We're somehow interpreting MOS:BOLDTITLE exactly the opposite. My evening consisted of replying to questions that shouldn't have to be answered. The MoS says "If an article's title is a formal or widely accepted name for the subject, display it in bold as early as possible in the first sentence". After reading this, I dont understand what conversation there is to have, and felt bothered with all the banter. I feel like this is a simple item to follow and a non-issue, but here we are.


 * Someone recently told me that it's just about impossible to edit WP and not ruffle anyone's feathers, and that appears to be the case, though I absolutely try to avoid it. I'd rather spend my evenings in peace. Dawnseeker2000   04:40, 30 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Please don't misunderstand. I don't mean that you changed your mind.  I said that you effectively conceded the point by openly dismissing my good-faith concern.  As noted above, only then did I reinstate the edit.
 * And please don't think that my intent was to wear you down or exploit your frustration. You expressed a desire to relax, which is perfectly reasonable.  Had you written something along the lines of "I really need to rest and don't feel up to discussing this tonight.  We can resume the conversation tomorrow.", I'd have had no objection.  Instead, you declared that there would be no further discussion (and evidently expected this to conclude the matter, with your preferred outcome locked in).
 * I've attempted – in the text that you've dismissed – to explain why I disagree with your assertion that the article's title constitutes a formal or widely accepted name for the subject. (Incidentally, I wrote and proposed that portion of the guideline's language.  It's somewhat amusing to be told that I've misinterpreted my own words.)  —David Levy 05:10, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Cops article protected
Hi! I'm wondering about why Cops (TV series) article is still protected since December 12, 2014. I would like to make episodes section but I'm unable. I know I can send a request but it's just different. Why that protection? --Giacomo Sarrocco (talk) 09:13, 10 May 2015 (UTC)


 * December 12 is when I reverted a page move, which automatically transferred preexisting semi-protection from one title to the other. (That's why my name is mentioned in the log.)
 * A different administrator enacted the semi-protection in March 2013‎, for a reason that clearly no longer applies. Accordingly, I've removed it.  —David Levy 11:02, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! You've been very willing --Giacomo Sarrocco (talk) 12:41, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

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Today's TFA
Hi David, thanks for keeping an eye on TFA. I'm sorry, I didn't understand this rationale. - Dank (push to talk) 04:04, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


 * My apologies for being unclear. Under several common display configurations, the text wraps below the image – only slightly, so it comes across as a glitch.  Here's an example:
 * Before my edit
 * After my edit


 * Those screenshots (derived via Windows 8.1) reflect the output of a full-screen Google Chrome window with the default text size at the 1920x1080 (1080p) resolution. The same or worse spillover can occur in other browsers, at some narrower resolutions, and when the window is not full-screen.
 * This cannot be prevented entirely, but the shorter the blurb, the less likely it is to wrap below the image. However, this is a relatively minor concern, far outweighed by the importance of preventing misunderstandings on the part of readers.  I apologize if the shortened statement (which seemed unambiguous to me) was likely to convey one or more incorrect interpretations that I failed to consider.  Thanks very much for spotting the problem and and undoing the edit.  —David Levy 05:22, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Chris knows more about image issues than I do, so I'm pinging for his help with that issue. (Chris, the text that seems too long to David is 1065 chars; I typically aim for 1000 up to a max of 1250). My concern was that some readers would mentally locate both sets of incisors in the upper jaw ... my thinking (though I can't prove this) is that the 10M Main Page clickers are a very diverse group, and that I should be more explicit for them than, say, the typical reader who would pick one of our scientific articles and read all the way to the end. Glad to hear your thoughts on this. - Dank (push to talk) 12:52, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Re: the edit above: This is one of those situations where our lack of data on the average resolution with which people access Wikipedia is a problem. On my screen (Chrome; 1366*768), there are still six lines of text under the image. David's screen is considerably wider, leading to the issue he mentioned. People are on lower resolutions (1024 wide is common for netbooks) would have even more lines under the image, while someone on a larger display would end up with white space next to the image.
 * Personally, since the image was changed to a more "in your face" one, I'd have shrunk the image a bit more. 133px is generally for landscape oriented photographs which don't show up well otherwise. The current image would have been recognizable at smaller sizes. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:11, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

In the instance discussed above, the blurb was on the wrap-around cusp (making it likely to spill over only slightly, which is what resembles a layout glitch) for many users at my resolution and others with similar widths. I performed the edit on the basis that it would be beneficial in that circumstance and neutral for those with higher or lower resolutions (or a comparable disparity stemming from the other factors noted above). This, of course, relied on the premise that the trimmed sentence remained unambiguous. Regarding the image, I used the 128x128px dimensions (by which the losslessly-cropped image's native 1024x1024px dimensions are evenly divisible, which theoretically maximizes the scaling's accuracy) to maintain approximately the same sizing that I found. To provide a bit of backstory, I'll note that we settled on 100px as the page's default maximum image width (excluding TFP, obviously) in the interest of preventing the one-sentence blurbs present in ITN, DYK and OTD from being squeezed into narrow columns at lower resolutions. Later, we adopted a matching default image height to prevent portrait-oriented thumbnails from being wildly larger than their landscape-oriented counterparts. TFA always has received additional leeway, due to the section's editorial significance and its paragraph-based formatting. Notably, we never adopted the aforementioned 100px default maximum height at TFA, so portrait-oriented images routinely appear as substantially larger thumbnails than those of the other sections. For example, we began the month with a thumbnail measuring 100x166px – 16,600 square pixels. (The current image, at 128x128px, comprises 16,384 square pixels.) But I agree that 100x100px would be fine, so I'll go ahead and change it for the remainder of the day. —David Levy 17:55/18:06, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm aware that this is highly dependent on resolution and the other factors mentioned above. I'm quite mindful of this fact, so any relevant edit that I perform is based on the belief that it does more good than harm (and preferably does no harm at all).  For example, I typically investigate reducing a section's length "to improve main page balance" when either the right- or left-hand column appears much longer than the other on my end, and I don't do so until after checking multiple configurations and ensuring that the opposite imbalance doesn't exist among them.  Then I'm conservative in what I remove/add, typically leaving some (but less) of the original lopsidedness on my end (due to the likelihood that the change will be more significant for some users).


 * The part about screen resolutions was more for Dank, actually; I recognized that, with the stuff you often do on the MP, you were certainly aware of the issue. Sorry I was unclear.
 * Re: image size. Tower House used the default size, so I'm not quite sure if it's directly comparable. Although the number of pixels remained the same, the dimensions were different enough that they may have had an effect on the line breaking. Anywho, any more discussion would be purely theoretical, since the image will be off the main page in less than an hour. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:22, 22 May 2015 (UTC)


 * You mentioned "David's screen", so I knew that you were addressing Dank. I just like to be thorough – or verbose, as I'm often reminded.  :)
 * Regarding the image, I'm sorry that I was unclear. I wasn't referring to the potential effects on line breaking.  I was responding to your comments regarding the presentation of the image itself – specifically, sizing the thumbnail to show up well and ensure that its subject is recognizable.  In the Tower House example, 75x125px would have accomplished that (and even 60x100px may have been acceptable, though that's a bit on the small side).  But yes, there certainly are other factors to consider.  —David Levy 00:26, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hmmm... in the future I'll try and play with image sizes, to avoid having them too big or small. Might be better than "one size sorta fits all". We've been using individually determined sizes for POTD since mid-2013, I believe. I forget when I made the shift. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:45, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


 * As a rule of thumb, a maximum size of roughly 10,000 square pixels (100x100px, 125x80px, 75x133px, etc.) usually works well. But given TFA's format (a single paragraph, included for only one day and almost never repeated) and the achievement that it reflects, I think that it's okay to go a bit beyond what's sufficient.  —David Levy 04:40, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:59, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Formal titles
The uppercase "P" is correct, per our house style.
 * – This is contrary to (U.S., at least) media style and has been for decades. Perhaps our house style should be changed. AP Stylebook:
 * president — Capitalize president only as a formal title before one or more names: President Obama, Presidents Clinton and Bush.
 * Lowercase in all other uses: The president said today. He is running for president. Lincoln was president during the civil war.
 * Of course the same rules apply to other formal titles. Sca (talk) 13:22, 31 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'm aware that our house style differs from that of most style guides (in the U.S., at least), though not in a respect evident in any of the quoted examples.
 * I don't know whether the convention varies elsewhere. If so, this is one of several circumstances in which we adhere to a project-wide style instead of varying it by English variety.  —David Levy 13:40, 1 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Do British pubs always capitalize president or other formal titles? Sca (talk) 17:02, 5 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I feel as though I'm missing some sort of joke. —David Levy 17:35, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

ITN image of Blatter
Curious why you changed the image from the original taken in 2013 to an older one from 2007. Though the updated file is named File:2014 FIFA Announcement (Joseph Blatter) 6.jpg, it is actually a 2007 photo from an announcement for the 2014 World Cup. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 00:17, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


 * In the past, we've received complaints about incongruously displaying photographs of people smiling in conjunction with blurbs about negative events in their lives.
 * In this instance, it's tempting to use an image like this, this or this, Sadly, the pursuit of neutrality isn't always compatible with that of amusement.  So I selected a photo in which Blatter appears dignified (and in which he's facing frame-left, which is a plus).  —David Levy 01:20, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
 * He won the election and was not fired. That's worth smiling :-)—Bagumba (talk) 01:24, 3 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I am reading your talk page, and laughing at item after item! This one was especially great, "In the past, we've received complaints about incongruously displaying photographs of people smiling in conjunction with blurbs about negative events in their lives." A separate, and unrelated question, which you could chide me about interjecting at this point: Why do you redirect your user page to your talk page on Wikimedia projects? I haven't checked on all of them (I'm not THAT compulsively curious!) but I noticed it on a few. Also, I wondered if the people who wished you Merry Christmas with big giant banners in the past were doing it as a form of mild trolling, as your name is so Jewish. I am Jewish too (I am Ellie Kesselman) so I am just wondering idly, not anti-Semitically, and found the possibility to be a somewhat amusing form of passive-aggressive trolling. I like a lot of your Commons work, by the way! --FeralOink (talk) 00:57, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Yangtze
Surely you don't attribute fallibility to my intuition? Sca (talk) 17:00, 5 June 2015 (UTC) [ 00:42, 6 June 2015‎ (UTC)]


 * In to which you've referred, "this" = "the premise that U.S. readers are relatively unfamiliar with the Yangtze".  —David Levy 17:35, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Horse Racimg
For a minute and 25 seconds American Pharoah was the best racimg horse out there! EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 02:15, 7 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, sorry about that. Unpleasant things happen when my trusty red squiggle fails to appear.    —David Levy 02:24, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

TFL images
Yes, David, I am getting your messages. I'm trying to do the best I can at TFL, but I do make mistakes from time to time despite my best efforts. Thank you for cleaning up after me, and I'll try to be more careful with the photo parentheses from now on. Giants2008 ( Talk ) 16:08, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Template:TFAVIDEO
Can you please explain what this monster of a template is trying to achieve ? It's humongous and it's breaking videos on the mobile website version... If I know what it's purpose is, maybe I can help. See also T101708 —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 18:17, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Given your tone, I'm tempted to inform you that my "idiocy" prevents me from formulating a cogent response.
 * Instead, I'll note that the template is essentially a combination of TFAIMAGE (whose place it took today) and plain image with caption (which may have been the problem's source). I just removed the template (after confirming that this would eliminate the display issue).  —David Levy 19:12, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I never said it was your idiocy, i pretty much expected that it was copied idiocy :) What functionality do you need ?, just a 'plaintext' caption underneath the video ? —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 19:25, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, along with a fix for whatever problem still exists (see below). —David Levy 19:28, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Actually, with the current revision (containing the content of TFAIMAGE with thumbnail formatting and a timecode specified for the still frame), I'm still seeing some overlap in my mobile browser (despite the mobile version generating properly in my desktop browser). If you know how to fix it, that would be appreciated.  I have no idea, as I've simply deployed others' code (which is beyond my full understanding)  —David Levy 19:28, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * I've started a simpler version in Template:TFAVIDEO/sandbox. The remaining issue you were seeing is due to the negative margins on the mp-tfa-img element. These negative margins are probably added to 'reduce' the standard margins on desktop around images, but mobile inline videos have no such margins to begin with.... TFA Images have similar problems, but they are not as visible I suspect.. I've implemented that slightly differently in the sandbox version. The params are 1: file, 2: size, 3:caption, thumbtime. —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 20:04, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * That seems like an improvement. Kaldari (talk) 20:12, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * That appears to have done the trick. Thanks!  Would TFAIMAGE and/or the other main page sections' transclusions benefit from such a change?  —David Levy 20:45, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Good. TFAIMAGE is using some different techniques (mostly because it doesn't require a caption), and it seems it does not require this kind of change right now. I've also added some documentation to the TFAVIDEO template. And I have done some cleanup on Plain image with caption as well, because that was a really bad example, especially for something from only 2010. :) —Th e DJ (talk • contribs) 21:50, 8 June 2015 (UTC)


 * All of the above is sincerely appreciated. Thanks again!  —David Levy 21:55, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Example
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog. The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog.

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Thanks for correcting licensing info
Thanks for helping out at the Falcon 9 explosion page. I was about to correct it and you came first. --Fazbear7891 (talk) 03:20, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

ITN numbers
Hi David, yesterday you changed all the numbers to words, today you changed them all to numerals. What's your guidance on how we could be more consistent? Stephen 07:38, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello! Per MOS:NUMERAL, consistency is desirable when dealing with comparable quantities (human death counts, in this instance).  For explanatory purposes, four scenarios are possible:


 * A) If all are ≥ 10 and all are expressible in one or two words, neither format is preferable.
 * B) If any are < 10 and all are expressible in one or two words, words are preferable.
 * C) If all are ≥ 10 and any are not expressible in one or two words, numerals are preferable.
 * D) If any are < 10 and any are not expressible in one or two words, numerals are preferable. (Single-digit numerals are considered acceptable in that context.  So are spelled-out numbers expressed in more than two words, but the community seems to regard the latter as the greater of two evils – in part because the MoS doesn't permit the "and" construct that many people prefer.)


 * Yesterday, an update increased a blurb's death count from "more than 140" to "more than 200"/"more than two hundred", resulting in scenario B. Today, a new blurb restored "140" to the mix (coincidentally), resulting in scenario D.


 * For practical purposes, this can be simplified greatly.
 * If any of the comparable quantities are not expressible in one or two words, use numerals for all of them. Otherwise:
 * If any of the comparable quantities are lower than 10, use words for all of them.
 * If neither rule applies, use numerals or words (not a combination of both) for all comparable quantities. —David Levy 10:51, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Prosecutor General
Hi David, no great issue but why shouldn't this be capitalised? I looked at analogies, like United States Attorney General and Prosecutor General of Russia and other sources which note the AG as fully capitalised, so why should the Egyptian position be any different? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:03, 4 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Per MOS:JOBTITLES, we style such a term in lowercase when it's used generically. ("Hisham Barakat, Egypt's prosecutor general" is analogous to the example "Mitterrand was the French president".  This wording is appropriate, given the link's generic target.)
 * We capitalize it when it precedes the relevant person's name ("Prosecutor General Hisham Barakat") or appears as part of a formal title ("Prosecutor General of Egypt"). We also capitalize it if it's "used to refer to a specific and obvious person as a substitute for their name", but that's more likely to apply in cases along the lines of "the Queen" or "the Prime Minister".  —David Levy 21:29, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

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T:ITN
So it's a new consensus format? I assumed that it had gotten updated by someone who wasn't familiar with the Main Page's normal working and added a caption as in an article, instead of the Main Page standard of (pictured). People are always so picky about where the italics go (italicise the parentheses, don't italicise the parentheses), and I can't remember, so I just skip them entirely and wait for someone else to add them. Nyttend (talk) 14:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that; I was completely unaware of the discussion. Thanks for helping me understand.  I don't watch Talk:MP and don't remember the last time I participated in any discussions about it, aside from WP:ERRORS.  Nyttend (talk) 20:43, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

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Please remove "cascading" protection from Today's articles for improvement/Protection
Please remove "cascading" protection from Today's articles for improvement/Protection. As of April 2013, it is marked as historical so it may not need any protection at all.

In April 2013 you protected it and added "cascading" protection, which effectively fully-protects Template:Historical. Normally that template would only be semi-protected. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  01:07, 23 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Done. Apologies for the oversight.  —David Levy 01:56, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

ITN images
Hi David, just a note to say thanks to you and The Rambling Man for working out the new method of adding images to ITN. Much, much easier than a local upload. Cheers, Stephen 23:04, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

You're ...
... being paged. Sca (talk) 15:02, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

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Images at TFA
You've made most of the edits to images at TFA this month IIRC. Before August, I was tentatively assigning captions and adding "pictured" as needed, but I've never been comfortable with image issues, and after the August discussions about captions, I'd rather step back from doing anything with images at TFA, at least for a while. I'm not positive, but it appears Chris and Brian are hesitant as well. Would you like to make those calls for the rest of September? - Dank (push to talk) 22:07, 15 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Absolutely. And if you'd like me to continue beyond September, I'd be glad to.  I perform similar edits at ITN and DYK (and occasionally OTD and TFL) as needed, so including TFA in the mix is no problem at all.  —David Levy 23:19, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks a truckload. Thoughts, Chris and Brianboulton? - Dank (push to talk) 23:33, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I've been swamped IRL (yeah, that hoped-for break didn't happen) so I haven't followed developments to the images. It's fine with me if David wants to go through the images as well. More eyes (hopefully) means fewer mistakes get through. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:35, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Breaking news: Today's featured article/September 19, 2015 was just swapped out. - Dank (push to talk) 12:58, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

VW update
Thanks, great job. It's nice to see at least one part of the main page being so carefully maintained. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:48, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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AB InBev – Miller
discussions about the evilness and/or ignorance of Americans can go on elsewhere
 * – David, I hope you realize that the discussion was not about evilness or ignorance, it was about making the blurb readily understandable to our global English-speaking audience. The author of the above statement read something into it that wasn't there at all as far as I was concerned. Sca (talk) 21:44, 15 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Sca: Agreed.  Jayron's edit summary surprised me, as I perceived nothing of the sort (and I'm American).  —David Levy 23:58, 15 October 2015 (UTC)


 * TNX. Best, Sca (talk) 00:13, 16 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Per both of your reasonable requests, I have restored the discussion so you may continue to contribute to it. -- Jayron 32 01:09, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! This is relation to the Talk:Edgar Allan_Poe dispute. I am not the filing party. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 00:07, 16 October 2015 (UTC) PS. I fixed some bad coding/formatting on the page that messed with the VisualEditor display

DYK padding
David Levy, can you please move that padded hook you just added to the DYK set on the main page so it isn't in the final position? The DYK hook sets try to feature a "quirky" hook last, and a double suicide is the sort of depressing hook we try to avoid. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:41, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Done. —David Levy 23:03, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you again; much appreciated. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:23, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

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Your lede in Poe bio
Hi David,

You might have noticed that the Poe discussion is closed now that we have an agreement on using your lede. I have edited the Poe bio to include that lede. Please take a look when you get a chance. JoePeschel (talk) 18:40, 23 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much, Joe. —David Levy 18:49, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

TQ
Should probably move the block one to (and give it a  shortcut). It's hard to remember which is which. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  05:31, 25 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Indeed, I've confused them once or twice. I agree that the distinction should be more obvious and less arbitrary.  —David Levy 05:39, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Banner on mobile front page
Hi David, please see https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2015-November/009916.html. Would you be willing to lead a discussion and/or add the appropriate tags to make Template:Main Page banner appear on the mobile site's main page? --Pine✉ 23:05, 2 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello! When it comes to handling this request without misunderstanding/breaking something, I'm more confident in Edokter's ability than I am in my own.  —David Levy 04:07, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, I've put a note on his talk page. Thanks. --<b style="color:#01796F;">Pine</b><sup style="color:#01796F;">✉ 05:37, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Today's featured article/November 15, 2015‎
Great work on images. Would you prefer to keep handling image issues solo, or should we recruit someone to help us? I'm trying to avoid ERROR reports of any kind, when possible. - Dank (push to talk) 00:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Corinne, obviously I'm not in any position to assign work to you, but you've been doing a great job at TFA so I'm giving you first right of refusal on this job. There was a change in the way TFA handles captions in August after a discussion at Talk:Main Page. Nowadays, sometimes there are captions, sometimes (pictured) appears in the TFA text, sometimes with additional text. Sometimes we have both. I confess to having a short fuse with image issues of all kinds, and I just prefer not to think about it. David Levy has been in charge of handling these and other image issues, but I'd like to recruit some extra help (just with captions and the (pictured) text, not with the images themselves). You can get an idea of what's needed by looking at this month's TFAs at WP:TFAA. Are you interested in the job? - Dank (push to talk) 16:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Dank: Apologies for the delay in implementing today's formatting. I've been in the habit of performing these edits to one or two subpages at a time, often shortly before one goes live.  In this instance, I was distracted by an offline matter, so I didn't get the changes saved until 00:14 UTC.  (I noticed the 00:12 error report afterward.)  In the interest of preventing future tardiness, I intend to build and maintain additional lead time.
 * In my view, it's appropriate for any user in good standing to improve content in accordance with the community's standards, so I consider all such edits welcome. If Corinne wishes to accept the above invitation, I believe that this would be helpful.  —David Levy 17:35, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure, that sounds good to me. Thanks for your help with this David, you've been doing a great job. - Dank (push to talk) 18:10, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, I'd love to do that. I skimmed the entire page at Talk:Main Page, however, and didn't see anything specific regarding a policy change on captions. Can you point me to what it was you wanted me to read? I also looked at this month's TFAs at WP:TFAA and saw that November 1 had no image, November 2 had an image but no caption, November 3 had two images, with "pictured left" and "pictured right" in the summary, and November 4 had an image with a caption. I guess that kind of sums up the variety. I think I'll need some guidance. How do I do this? What is that new policy regarding captions? Corinne (talk) 21:40, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure if it will help, but the links are Talk:Main_Page/Archive_185 and Talk:Main_Page/Archive_185. If the image is a picture of the subject of the article, we generally don't use a caption. Other than that ... I get confused. - Dank (push to talk) 22:23, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I read both discussions. In the first one, there seems to be, sort of, a consensus:


 * (a) If the image is a picture of the subject of the article, generally no caption is needed; and


 * (b) if there is a chance that the reader will not know what the image is illustrating, it's all right to add a caption or, possibly, (pictured). It seems to be left to the judgment of the person who generally writes the captions. Does that sound right?


 * I still don't understand what I am supposed to be doing.


 * 1) Do I add captions (as needed) or (pictured), when appropriate, to all TFA summaries, or just some? If just to some, how do I know which? (I mean, I know that not all images will get captions or even (pictured) in the text. What I mean is, will I be responsible for making this determination and writing necessary captions for all TFA summaries or just for some?) Corinne (talk) 23:35, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * 2) When do I add captions, etc. – before the summary has been shortened/copy-edited or after?


 * 3) Is there some kind of deadline for each one, and, if so, what is it? Corinne (talk) 23:33, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I think what David is saying is that he expects he can generally keep up. He's only been behind on the work a few times, so I expect he doesn't need a lot of help, that's up to him. For now, just watch his work on TFA captions. I'll come back to this in a couple of weeks to see if David's comfortable with the workload, and if the process is making more sense to you, after you've had some time to study it. - Dank (push to talk) 01:10, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * O.K. Corinne (talk) 14:26, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Any questions or comments regarding my edits are welcome, of course. —David Levy 17:15, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Further thoughts? If you're happy, I'm happy. - Dank (push to talk) 14:55, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * All seems well on my end. :)  —David Levy 15:02, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

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Sibelius
I woke up to the swap of the queues and am not happy. The idea was to celebrate Sibelius on his birthday with as many hooks and images as possible. You will know that on 12 December we will have two sets with two different images which will ALL deal with Frank Sinatra. Modesty for Sibelius: only one hook each set. Can the pictured one please be in queue 4?? The image in the TFA fits that article but is not THE image for Sibelius. IF we get a different hook for the composer, that could go with the image, unless the alternative image is preferred. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:26, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


 * We almost always seek to avoid covering similar subjects in more than one main page section simultaneously, even on special occasions. (For example, a holiday mentioned at TFA, TFP or TFL is omitted from OTD.)  Normally, we also try to avoid highlighting something that appeared on the main page recently (by spreading out similar material as much as possible), but I made an exception in recognition of the 150th birthday.
 * I'd overlooked the blurb in queue 3. I just swapped it into queue 2 and added another Sibelius image (replacing the photograph of Sarah Kalley, which you correctly described as "pale").  This sets up forty-eight consecutive hours of Sibelius content on the main page (including its most prominent slot on his birthday), with his likeness appearing throughout.  I sincerely hope that you consider this acceptable.  (To me, the commemoration actually seems more noticeable this way.)  —David Levy 10:14, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I like what you did in spreading it out! However, the TFA - as even the main author would agree - covers a very a-typical work with a very a-typical image, and is more or less a place-holder for the composer who didn't quite make it to FA in time. My ideal would be to run the approved Cassazione hook in queue 3 (instead of Snöfrid) and have the (not yet approved) Sibelius hook ALT4 as lead in Q4, to make his political influence better known, and more of his music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:39, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I think that I understand your point regarding the work's atypical nature, but I'm using the phrase "similar subjects" in a much broader sense. In this context, two articles about British prime ministers, bird species, or destructive storms would be considered similar.
 * Given the time sensitivity, I've added the Cassazione hook to queue 2, where its quirkiness makes it a good fit at the bottom. If the remaining Sibelius hook is approved in time, I suggest placing it first in queue 5, with the Voces intimae hook shifted to the bottom.  —David Levy 11:16, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


 * In a way, I would almost like to have the TFA swapped to the 9th and give readers on the birthday some real Sibelius instead of the spurious Eighth but that may be just me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep in mind that many readers of the Symphony No. 8 (Sibelius) article will click through to the Jean Sibelius article to read about Sibelius and his other works. —David Levy 11:52, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


 * That was my assumption too. It was therefore important for the biography to reach GA in time. I also think presenting various DYKs on Sibelius over the next few days or weeks will reinforce interest in the composer. If we had a string of DYKs in addition to the TFA today, I don't think many people would bother to look at them all. (Ditto the DYK overkill on Sinatra.) So I fully support your decision. I also sincerely appreciate 's efforts in planning ahead and making sure Sibelius appeared as TFA. Even if people don't turn up the full biography, the summary of S's life in the article on the eighth symphony provides an excellent overview. Thanks for sorting everything out.--Ipigott (talk) 08:28, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Editing the DYK queues
As you are obviously unfamiliar with the way the DYK Queues function, I would like to give you some tips to prevent problems like those created this morning.
 * 1) When you move a hook from the "Hooks" section of one queue to another queue, the associated credit information in the "Credits" section also needs to be moved.  DYKUpdateBot is good, but it is well short of the level of artificial intelligence needed to divine the information needed to provide DYK credits from just the information in the hooks.  This also applies to moves between prep areas as well as moves from a prep area to a queue.
 * 2) When you promote a hook to a queue (e.g. ), you need to copy the credit information along with the hook and also close the nomination you got the hook from.  Instructions for this procedure are available at Template talk:Did you know.
 * 3) Please remove any "(pictured)" comments from a hook you promote if the hook is not being placed in the first (image) slot.

As always, please feel free to ask for help at Wikipedia talk:Did you know when you find yourself in over your head with DYK related issues. --Allen3 talk 13:33, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the tips (though I presume that you overlooked the image's relevance to the last hook). Sincere apologies for the errors and any problems that resulted therefrom.  My past DYK edits have been simpler.  In this instance, I sought to preserve a special commemoration of Jean Sibelius's 150th birthday, which required extensive editing of a time-sensitive nature.
 * If I may offer some advice in return, I suggest that DYK's denizens give the upcoming main page content (particularly TFA) a cursory glance to ensure that you haven't scheduled a hook on a related topic – including a second picture of a person – for the same day. That way, an administrator unfamiliar with the section's procedures won't have to wade in and attempt to resolve the issue at the last minute.  —David Levy 14:21, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Paris Agreement
He David, quite a "copy-edit" you made to the In the News-item on COP21. In principle no problem of course, but I am not sure if this is correct. 195 countries + EU could send delegates, but did they all come? At least they did not all present credentials we know, so formal voting would have left quite a few out. Could you think of a rephrase (I would do it myself, but it seems only admins can change)? L.tak (talk) 16:59, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much for bringing this concern to my attention. I based the wording on statements by reliable sources (including those cited in our articles).  Of course, it's quite possible that they're wrong on this detail, just as some of them were in reporting the involvement of 196 countries.
 * I've substituted "parties to the UNFCCC". Thanks again.  —David Levy 17:21, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I think COP21 managed to get their message of "for the first time" and "universal" well across the media, even though that's only one way of qualifying the event. The problem is in these events that we either perform original research by interpreting ourselves, or use older background articles, or use the fast pace of news outlets. That all has its disadvantages... L.tak (talk) 17:47, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Files for discussion/2015 December 12
Why is the discussion inappropriate? We are discussing just one image in general. Can you reopen it? --George Ho (talk) 20:41, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * It's stated that the "forum" is inappropriate, not the discussion.  Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 20:47, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Still, we can't depend on older discussions any longer, can we? --George Ho (talk) 20:48, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * You seem to have misunderstood. As Mlpearc noted, I closed the discussion because the forum (TfD) was inappropriate; the deletion rationale is applicable to every fair-use SVG appearing in Wikipedia, not to "just one image" in particular.  You're welcome to raise your concern (and propose a policy change to disallow the use of non-free SVGs) at Village pump (policy).  —David Levy 21:48, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

I started a central discussion at the Village pump. Finnertop concurs that the closure was too soon. If you won't undo the closure, I'll do the deletion review soon. --George Ho (talk) 07:13, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I just reduced the level of detail in the SVG's Eiffel Tower portion. Does this address your concern?  —David Levy 15:36, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * That addresses my concern in the discussion, at least. Whether you reduced the level of detail too much or too little is a matter of discussion. It is unfortunate that we do not have a standard way of determining if an SVG file is too big or too small for WP:NFCC. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:04, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

I get the logic of changing the image size to 240px at 2015 United Nations Climate Change Conference. However, that doesn't change anything. I still want to change the default thumbsize to 100% preferred pixels, i.e. upright=1. I don't wanna edit war with you. I'm unsure how the reason is "good" per WP:IUP other than size, which isn't good enough for me. --George Ho (talk) 07:18, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * You complained that an image was being displayed at a size too large (which it was). Then you reverted an edit that made it smaller.  Now you're complaining about a size in line with that which is recommended for non-free images, which a vast majority of readers (those not logged in) would receive by default anyway.  To be blunt, George, I don't know what would be good enough for you.  —David Levy 15:36, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * We can't force 220px readers, including unsigned ones, to view it at 240px. Same for 300px. However, these size are meant for all content, including free content. Theo's Little Bit can do the job for us without problems. I can view a PNG's maximum size at bigger size preference (250px at 400px or 300px) Now I can confirm that you implicitly won't undo the closure. Would doing the DRV now be forum shopping? If not, I'm gonna do it soon. George Ho (talk) 18:03, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * We can't force 220px readers, including unsigned ones, to view it at 240px. Same for 300px. However, these size are meant for all content, including free content. Theo's Little Bit can do the job for us without problems. I can view a PNG's maximum size at bigger size preference (250px at 400px or 300px)
 * Again, 240px is the exact width at which the infobox renders the image for "220px readers, including unsigned ones", by default (with no size specified manually). In this instance, it also results in in image size close to (slightly above, in fact) that which is recommended (as a rule of thumb) for non-free images.  In other words, a PNG would be capped at about that size.
 * And with the detail reduction, obvious deficiencies emerge at significantly greater sizes (which is the point).
 * Now I can confirm that you implicitly won't undo the closure.
 * In response to the relevant message, I asked whether the aforementioned detail reduction addressed your concern. You appear to have replied in the affirmative.  On what basis do you still consider the FfD discussion necessary?  —David Levy 18:40, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Details aren't important to me. The way infoboxes transclude files affect the content more than some "detail", like sharpness, for which I don't care. I'm more concerned about pixels more than anybody else does. If the infobox image size goes big, the alignment is affected. If the image size is forced and fixed, the principle of the WP:IUP would be violated. As for the FFD, it's just one image as a test for SVG vs PNG, but everybody still wanted to keep the SVG with less details, affecting the SVG's quality. --George Ho (talk) 00:16, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Details aren't important to me.
 * To my knowledge, we haven't gotten around to adding the criterion "important to George Ho" to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. We've been too busy with trivialities like copyright law.
 * If the infobox image size goes big, the alignment is affected.
 * This is among the reasons why your attempts "to let scale vary freely" are baffling.
 * If the image size is forced and fixed, the principle of the WP:IUP would be violated.
 * Your understanding of that policy is severely lacking.
 * To satisfy fair use requirements, We must restrict the display of non-free images. Your apparent belief that readers' freedom to choose their thumbnail sizes takes precedence is entirely incorrect.
 * As for the FFD, it's just one image as a test for SVG vs PNG, but everybody still wanted to keep the SVG with less details, affecting the SVG's quality.
 * You knew perfectly well that the matter had been discussed previously (and even participated in at least one of the discussions). This doesn't mean that it mustn't be raised again, but that isn't FfD's purpose.  It's a forum in which Wikipedia's established practices are followed, not one in which they're proposed or applied experimentally after repeated rejections by the community.  —David Levy 01:13, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

I am aware of the consequences. We just don't want to game it to prove our point. --George Ho (talk) 18:21, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * What on Earth are talking about? I'm at a loss.  —David Levy 18:40, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * One of my edits that you reverted at the COP21 page. George Ho (talk) 20:30, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Please elaborate. —David Levy 20:43, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * You shrank the image, but then I eliminated the "image_size" parameter to let scale vary freely, depending on preference. --George Ho (talk) 00:00, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the recap. Now can you please explain how your message with the timestamp "18:21, 14 December 2015 (UTC)" (the meaning of which remains a mystery) relates to that series of events?  —David Levy 01:13, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Sigh. I guess I wasn't very elaborate, so I'm striking that out. What about what you said, "I'm sure that you're acting in good faith, but you seem confused and/or unaware of your edit's full effects"? Do you mean letting the size go large or what? George Ho (talk) 04:24, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


 * My impression was that you were unaware of how large the image became for some users and/or that my removal of detail resulted in significant quality degradation at such a pixel size (which was the point). If neither was the case, your edit is all the more baffling.  —David Levy 10:33, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * What is detail actually? Removing lines and changing computers codes or what? Reducing pixels? Is PNG format used to transclude SVG files? George Ho (talk) 02:02, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

By the way, even fixing a size wouldn't change how SVG images are transcluded in infoboxes. George Ho (talk) 04:42, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


 * What do you mean? —David Levy 10:33, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * If I don't make sense to you, how do infoboxes works for images? I can't explain infobox images well, so what do you know about infobox images (in size terms)? George Ho (talk) 01:59, 16 December 2015 (UTC)


 * (watching) You would best get away from fixed image sizes, anyway. Good infoboxes have image_upright which takes a factor (such as 1.3 for large or 0.7 for small), thus taking a user's preferences into account. Example: Rakastava. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:26, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Today's featured article/December 14, 2015‎
Aren't readers going to be confused about something identified as a "battle" site when the TFA text says there was no bloodshed? - Dank (push to talk) 23:39, 13 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I've modified the caption to note that the battle was bloodless. —David Levy 23:56, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Files for discussion/2015 December 12 2
Would you care to explain your closure? You wrote that "Infinite resolution is an intrinsic characteristic of vector graphics" but this is not true; SVG files always have a finite number of vectors, so the resolution is always finite. You also wrote that "A proposal to replace fair-use SVGs with non-scalable images should be made at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) and advertised prominently" but no one has suggested that the file necessarily has to be replaced by a "non-scalable image". The request was that the file has to be replaced by a different file which satisfies WP:NFCC, but that replacement file can use any file format, including SVG. --Stefan2 (talk) 15:45, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * You wrote that "Infinite resolution is an intrinsic characteristic of vector graphics" but this is not true; SVG files always have a finite number of vectors, so the resolution is always finite.
 * I should have been more precise in my wording. I was referring to pixel resolution, not spatial resolution.  I'll try to remember to use the term "pixel count" instead.
 * You also wrote that "A proposal to replace fair-use SVGs with non-scalable images should be made at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) and advertised prominently" but no one has suggested that the file necessarily has to be replaced by a "non-scalable image".
 * The nominator did, quite explicitly.
 * He then actually replaced the the SVG with a PNG in the article.
 * The request was that the file has to be replaced by a different file which satisfies WP:NFCC, but that replace file can use any file format, including SVG.
 * That's why I reduced the SVG's level of detail, as noted in the section whose heading you duplicated. (I've appended "2".)  —David Levy 17:05, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The request was that the file has to be replaced by a different file which satisfies WP:NFCC, but that replace file can use any file format, including SVG.
 * That's why I reduced the SVG's level of detail, as noted in the section whose heading you duplicated. (I've appended "2".)  —David Levy 17:05, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I didn't notice that you reduced the SVG's level of detail, and I didn't see the other discussion on your talk page. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:02, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * No worries. :)  —David Levy 18:40, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Correction: I added the PNG as a second image and then removed it. I have left the SVG in there in hope of consensus, not knowing that you would close it. George Ho (talk) 18:05, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * My apologies for failing to realize that you actually did something patently ridiculous and flagrantly non-complaint with policy. —David Levy 18:40, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas from 50.179.194.186
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Merry Christmas and happy new year
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Merry Christmas and happy new year. (: --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;"><b style="color:#01796F;">Pine</b><sup style="color:#01796F;">✉

Carefull...
...not to leave [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/December_26,_2015&diff=696784324&oldid=696783390 hanging divs]. The (div based) 2015 main page is very unforgiving about these (so a very good place to check formatting). Merry Christmas! 09:20, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Image size
You should know better then to use custom images sizes for one specific display type... I still believe non-HiDPI and desktop screens outnumber the HiDPI ones, which ususally have excellent upscaling anyway. So why shoud the rest look at a way too small image instead? 10:57, 26 December 2015 (UTC)


 * On every applicable smartphone/tablet screen I've seen, the difference is significant; an image displayed at the dimensions specified in the wikicode sticks out like a sore thumb.
 * Nonetheless, I wouldn't prioritize such screens at the expense of others. I disagree that 78x104px is "way too small" (particularly when an image is of relatedly low quality, as this one is).  Until recently, our standard dimensions for a 3:4 image on the main page were 75x100px.  We switched to 100x133px to provide sufficient width for a caption, which this instance lacks.  —David Levy 11:16, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It is a problematic image, I agree. It's 90x120 now. But the old size stuck out as being way smaller then the other images. And on desktops, it is still scaled down.  11:26, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Kent TFA
Any particular reason you swapped the image at the last second for the Kent, Ohio TFA? The reason I ask is because I had recently replaced that image since it was both 6 years old and because there has been some renovation on the area in the photo since that photo was taken. Further, the summary currently on the Main Page says "depot pictured" in italics and the photo doesn't show the depot at all. --JonRidinger (talk) 03:37, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Jon: My apologies for overlooking the "depot pictured" notation. In substituting a wider shot, my intent was to convey a larger sampling of the city's atmosphere (which is much easier in the actual article, given the multitude of images contained therein).  I was unaware that the photograph was partially outdated (and I apologize for that as well).  I've reverted to the previous selection and increased its size above that of the original transclusion.  Thanks for taking the time to contact me, and sorry again for the trouble.  —David Levy 04:13, 27 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Appreciate the reply too. Actually the whole TFA process was why I even thought to update the infobox photos since the photo you had chosen (File:Downtown Kent Ohio 2.jpg) was the infobox header for over five years. The biggest change was the complete restoration of the Franklin Hotel (Kent, Ohio) in 2012-13 (File:Franklin Hotel hill.JPG), which was still in a completely derelict and abandoned state in the background of the 2009 photo. Thanks again for your reply and action, and all your work on the TFA sections. Happy 2016! --JonRidinger (talk) 04:30, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

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File:Ambox deletion.png
When you did administratice actions on this file, you unprotected the file. This looks like an error. Shouldn't it be protected again? --Stefan2 (talk) 15:33, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


 * This was intentional. The file is cascade-protected, so the manual protection was redundant.  —David Levy 15:37, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, I see that Cascade-protected items contains advice against the page's use as a first-line measure, so I'll restore the protection to be on the safe side. Note, however, that the instructions were written in 2009.  Nowadays, we routinely protect certain high-profile content via this method.  But there's no harm in erring on the side of caution, I suppose.  —David Levy 15:51, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Hm, I didn't notice that the file was cascade-protected. 'View source' changed into 'Edit' in the menu, so I assumed that the file was completely unprotected. I don't know if it would have been possible to edit the page, though. --Stefan2 (talk) 16:06, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't have been possible. (You'd have received a message indicating that the file was cascade-protected.)
 * When cascading protection was introduced, its application replaced "edit" with "view source". For some reason, this was short-lived.  (I vaguely recall asking a MediaWiki developer and being told that adding such a feature would be too resource-draining, but I don't think that its initial inclusion was addressed explicitly.)  —David Levy 19:01, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, cascade protection does not induce a "view source" tab because that would require a complicated query during every page view, generating performance issues. BTW, I've wondered if that local copy is needed considering that the Commons image it shadows is fully protected considering its very wide use among Wikimedia projects.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 22:09, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

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TFA Image
Per, please switch back the image, the one you have replaced it with is a horribly-conformed, ugly animal and the image was not what was approved for the TFA. Montanabw <sup style="color:purple;">(talk) 18:06, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ per WP:BRD &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:12, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * This may have been switched because you could hardly make out the horses. I've increased the size by 50%. Does it look okay? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:15, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * (watching:) much better, showing them in their typical environment, and blue sky. Any sign of fresh air and hope welcome, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:30, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * How silly of me to prioritize the ability to discern a horse. —David Levy 22:45, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Done per WP:BRD
 * I understand this action and appreciate your subsequent size adjustment. For the record, had I read the request before you honored it, I'd have acted in kind.
 * This may have been switched because you could hardly make out the horses.
 * Indeed, that was my concern. This is why I searched the relevant category at Commons for an image that would work well as a thumbnail, educated myself on the definition of "Banker horse" and examined the original source's documentation to ensure that the photograph was labeled accurately, and losslessly cropped and mirrored the image to enhance its utility in this context.
 * Given its feral nature (i.e., the absence of deliberate breeding for a purpose, which typically underlies assessments of equine conformation), I was under the impression that factually being a Banker horse was a reasonable criterion in determining whether an animal was a valid example of a Banker horse. I didn't consider whether it was pretty.  (My apologies if that'a an oversimplification of Montanabw's objection – and for any failure on my part to recognize the issue beforehand.)  —David Levy 22:45, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The image cropping of the photo of the herd was helpful, thanks! David, the main problem was that the horse was both scrawny AND heavily pregnant.  The scrawny part is probably common enough (though I suppose it varies by season), and maybe 20% of the horses might be pregnant at any given time (though this one was pretty close to foaling, from the look of her) but the combo gave me an immediate "WTF?" In the horse articles, we try for a lead image that doesn't raise people saying "OMG!  Call PETA!"  (Unless the article is about something horrible, of course, like the image that led the TFA for Horse Protection Act of 1970.  All is well now.  Montanabw <sup style="color:purple;">(talk)  23:17, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
 * To clarify, I didn't crop a photograph of a herd; I cropped one of a single horse (to increase its share of the frame) and mirrored it (to place the blurb in the subject's line of sight).
 * Thanks for providing the above background information. In turn, I'll elaborate on our usage of images on the main page.
 * Throughout Wikipedia, it's important that an image is properly licensed and depicts the subject (or an element thereof) accurately. In other respects, however, the criteria applied to the main page sometimes differ from those of the article or its lead.
 * In particular, the thumbnails displayed on the main page are relatively small, so an image that works well in an article might be very difficult to discern at that scale. For this reason, we often use one not contained in the article's lead (and sometimes the entire article).  It might not be an ideal illustration, but it's better than one that's too small to be recognized.
 * Having said that, I want to reiterate that my response to your request would have been the same as MSGJ's. Until I'm able to amass a greater lead time for these image adjustments (thereby enabling advance discussion), WP:BRD is a valid approach.  —David Levy 23:49, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hypothetical fifth giant planet
The Hypothetical fifth giant planet and Planet Nine may or may not exist, and may or may not relate to one another. But they are two different hypotheses with different rationales, and merging the articles about the two hypotheses would be original research on our part, so we shouldn't do it. -- The Anome (talk) 11:57, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Did you read all the sources? Your argument is superficial. If you look at the sources you will see that the Planet Nine research directly follows from the earlier planet five.  It's the same theory, just rebranded.  Jehochman Talk 12:20, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The Anome: Thanks for the note. To be clear,  was technical in nature (the elimination of a double redirect) and not intended to imply endorsement of the merger that led to the redirect's creation (a matter on which I currently hold no position).  —David Levy 12:23, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

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Seems to be bugged. - Dank (push to talk) 16:07, 24 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Dank: In what respect (and is the issue affecting Main Page/Tomorrow)? No obvious problem is visible on my end.  —David Levy 16:16, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * When I posted this, the image wasn't displaying. It is now, thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 16:27, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Altare dei Magi, con copia del reliquiario cropped.JPG


A tag has been placed on File:Altare dei Magi, con copia del reliquiario cropped.JPG requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image is an unused redundant copy (all pixels the same or scaled down) of an image in the same file format, which is on Wikipedia (not on Commons), and all inward links have been updated.

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 * I don't want to spam your talk page, so I'll turn off Twinkle notifications, but I'm CSD tagging a bunch of old temporary main page images that never actually got deleted. You can check my contributions if you really wanna see what all I'm deleting. Cheers, Iago Qnsi  (talk) 20:47, 26 February 2016 (UTC)


 * IagoQnsi: Despite the template's wording, it's become common practice to retain such images indefinitely. This usually causes no harm and occasionally comes in handy.
 * Are you requesting these deletions for a particular reason (apart from adherence to procedure)? —David Levy 23:05, 26 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Just adherence to procedure; no need to keep redundant files that aren't being used anywhere. Before I tagged each one, I did verify that the original un-cropped version still existed, and that the cropped version wasn't being used anywhere (besides the archived version of the main page).
 * Anyway, I assumed the images were just being forgotten -- if it's now considered standard to not delete them, perhaps the wording of m-cropped should be revised? Maybe instead of "Please delete file...", it could say "You may delete this file..." - Iago Qnsi (talk) 23:45, 26 February 2016 (UTC)


 * IagoQnsi: As in the example cited above, such files sometimes become useful again, so preserving them can eliminate redundant effort.
 * I wouldn't say that "it's now considered standard to not delete them". I don't recall any formal discussion on the matter.  It's simply become common, largely because people see no harm in retaining the files, no point in bothering to delete them, and occasional benefits to keeping them.
 * Incidentally, CSD F1 doesn't apply to local copies of images stored at Commons, and neither CSD F1 nor CSD F8 applies to images to which substantial modifications (such as significant cropping) have been made. These criteria pertain to purely duplicative files (same image, same format, same or lower quality, same or lower resolution).  —David Levy 00:08, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, poor choice of wording; I didn't mean an official standard, just commonplace like you said. And apologies for the misused templates. - Iago Qnsi (talk) 00:29, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Some users might have taken the extra step of undoing the template's mass insertion (as opposed to apologizing for its misuse and leaving it for someone else to clean up).
 * No matter. I've rolled back the edits.  —David Levy 08:52, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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Image question
Hi David,

I'm here with jehochman at a wiki edit-a-thon and he recommended asking you about how to upload an image on Sandy Skoglund's page without running into copyright issues. I'm trying to upload a notable work to the artist's profile on the right. There are many versions of the photo on google images, but I am not sure which ones are OK to upload. Could you help me with this? Thanks!--Alxing8 (talk) 23:16, 4 March 2016 (UTC)


 * To what work are you referring? —David Levy 17:44, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Possibly unfree files
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 * Jo-Jo Eumerus: I've deleted both.  In the future, if you notice any m-cropped images derived from files deleted at Commons for copyright-related reasons, feel free to request their speedy deletion on my talk page.  —David Levy 18:39, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

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TFA picture replacement
Why on earth would you insert a non-vetted image file into the TFA blurb (one that's not even in the article itself) without first consulting the article author? Please replace the image with one that occurs in the article. Sasata (talk) 16:19, 14 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Sasata: Why on Earth was it necessary to take that tone? Do you think that I acted maliciously?
 * What do you mean by "non-vetted"? I went out of my way to find this image on the Mushroom Observer website, where an experienced contributor verified its quality.  I did so because a close-up shot is more easily discernible at the small dimensions used for thumbnails appearing on the main page (an issue not relevant to the article).
 * With no disrespect intended, I'll note that you're mistaken in your belief that an article's author possesses special authority to control its content or related materials. In the spirit of WP:BOLD, your reversion request was appropriate (and I'd have carried it out if another administrator hadn't beaten me to it) on the basis that you're a Wikipedia user in good standing.  —David Levy 22:26, 14 March 2016 (UTC)


 * David, I think you've misjudged this. Sasata's tone is not disrespectful (he may be a little exasperated/frustrated, but I think that's understandable), and at no point has he tried to assert any ownership over the article or the main page. (On the other hand, whether done maliciously or not, you have taken advantage of your special authority to make a change on the main page.) Josh Milburn (talk) 22:53, 14 March 2016 (UTC)


 * David, I think you've misjudged this. Sasata's tone is not disrespectful (he may be a little exasperated/frustrated, but I think that's understandable), and at no point has he tried to assert any ownership over the article or the main page.
 * My interpretation of Sasata's message, wherein I was asked "why on earth" I would insert "a non-vetted image" "without first consulting the article author" differs from yours.
 * On the other hand, whether done maliciously or not, you have taken advantage of your special authority to make a change on the main page.
 * As noted at Talk:Main Page, I performed almost two days before the blurb appeared on the main page.  —David Levy 23:42, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

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File:Imbox move.png listed for discussion
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 * Sorry for spamming you about all of these. Can you add to them? I can't do this myself since they are fully protected.
 * Done. —David Levy 17:06, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:Wikipedia languages/test2


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A photo of Icelandic PM
Shall I ask the consensus to go for either the earlier image or the "less cheerful" image? We are not either a newspaper or an advertiser. Isn't switching to a "less cheerful" one the lowest of all lowly actions? --George Ho (talk) 20:10, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * No, it's probably more appropriate to use a sombre photograph rather than a jolly one, considering the news story. It's really odd that you would think otherwise and consider this to be "the lowest of all lowly actions".  I suggest you stop doing this kind of thing, it's not benefiting Wikipedia, and it certainly isn't benefiting you.  The Rambling Man (talk) 20:33, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Switching an image does not require a debate, and was a good idea here. Describing David's entirely appropriate change (to a more recent image, as it happens, but more importantly to one that doesn't make him appear to be happy in relation to this news) as "the lowest of all lowly actions" shows a complete lack of perspective. BencherliteTalk 20:48, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

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Your call, but a thought
Saw the crop you did on the American Pharoah image at TFA. Saw the rollover ALT text was "|title=American Pharoah in May 2015" The image was actually of him in the winner's circle of the Preakness Stakes on May 16, 2015. Don't know if you want to expand, change or whatever the alt text with any of that ("American Pharoah at the Preakness Stakes, 2015" -- or whatever), but if you think it would be more helpful, go for it. Entirely your call. I appreciate the close attention paid to these articles at TFA. Between the inevitable kiddie edits to these horse articles where the vandal cannot resist references to a donkey, mule, or certain anatomical parts and a few trolls, watchers at TFA are always tops in my book! Thank you. Montanabw <sup style="color:orange;">(talk) 00:55, 7 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much for your kind words and the edit suggestion. I've expanded the image title to mention the Preakness Stakes.  —David Levy 01:05, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

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Today's featured article/May 23, 2016‎
Is there a reason that we can't give editors 3 or 4 days to find alternative images? Is it necessary to delete images on the very day an article will hit the Main Page? An editor may feel pressured to drop everything to hunt around for a suitable image and get it approved, and that may sour them on FAC and TFA. Of course, the fact that people rarely complain about the daily Main Page image work you do speaks for itself ... I'm not complaining about your image work. - Dank (push to talk) 14:06, 22 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Simon is wondering if File:17th century Spanish routes to Petén flat.gif works. - Dank (push to talk) 19:29, 22 May 2016 (UTC)


 * 17th century Spanish routes to Petén flat.gif
 * Unfortunately, maps with textual labels rarely make for useful thumbnails. Even at 160x195px (significantly larger than usual), the text is unreadable.  —David Levy 03:51, 23 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Is there a reason that we can't give editors 3 or 4 days to find alternative images?
 * Well, no (and I'll make it a point to identify problematic images further in advance), but it's important to keep in mind that not every TFA blurb (or even every TFA blurb for an article containing free images) should be accompanied by an image. (I always examine every image from the article before removing one without a replacement, and if I see none but believe that one is likely to exist, I check elsewhere (other Wikipedia articles, the Wikimedia Commons, and external sources).
 * Is it necessary to delete images on the very day an article will hit the Main Page? An editor may feel pressured to drop everything to hunt around for a suitable image and get it approved, and that may sour them on FAC and TFA.
 * I hope that it can be conveyed to such individuals that the absence of an image isn't necessarily a shortcoming. Conversely, including an image for the sake of including an image detracts from the presentation, sometimes to an alarming extent.  (I like to cite  as an example of where such an approach leads us.)
 * So in the occasional instances in which I've removed an image without a replacement, I haven't perceived the resultant blurb as deficient or in need of further attention.
 * But your point regarding other editors' perspectives is well taken. It certainly isn't my intention to dismiss their concerns or override them with my own.  There's no question that a suitable image is better than no image, and there's no harm in seeking a suitable image.  As noted above, I'll keep this in mind and aspire to provide as much notice as possible.
 * Of course, the fact that people rarely complain about the daily Main Page image work you do speaks for itself ... I'm not complaining about your image work.
 * Much appreciated. —David Levy 03:51, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's all I'm asking. - Dank (push to talk) 11:58, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

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Disambiguation page
Hello, David. When you moved LCVP (disambiguation) to LCVP, over a redirect to an article, you may not have been aware of WP:FIXDABLINKS, which says:
 * When creating disambiguation pages, fix all resulting mis-directed links.


 * Before moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name, to move an existing disambiguation page to that name, or to redirect that name to a disambiguation page), click on What links here to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name.

It would be a great help if you would check the other Wikipedia articles that contain links to "LCVP" and fix them to take readers to the correct article. Thanks. R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:57, 5 June 2016 (UTC)


 * My apologies. I was aware of the need, but it slipped my mind.  I just retargeted all links to LCVP in the article namespace, including many that appeared relevant to articles other than the one to which the title previously redirected.  —David Levy 18:18, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

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File:Florence Arthaud dédicace cropped.JPG
Hi David Levy. From what I can see, File:Florence Arthaud dédicace cropped.JPG is no longer displayed on the main page. Would you consider unprotectecting the file so other editors can make changes to improve it? Thanks,  F ASTILY   09:52, 1 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I've unprotected the file. —David Levy 20:11, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! - F ASTILY   22:06, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

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CSSes to move
Given the move of MediaWiki:Gadget-NewMainPage.css, it probably makes sense to move MediaWiki:Gadget-NewMainPage.css/sandbox.css to MediaWiki:User:Main Page/NewMainPage.css/sandbox.css. Also, there's a stray js talk page that hasn't been deleted. — Andy W.  ( talk  · ctb) 00:49, 7 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Done. Thanks for the note.  —David Levy 01:21, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Possessive forms vs possessive words
Regarding this reversion, I thought the way it’s currently written was potentially ambiguous to less grammar-savvy readers, and may be interpreted as being an exception to the apostrophe-s form rather than a word in its own right. Whether you have a better solution or simply disagree with my concern, I would gladly hear it. Thanks. —67.14.236.50 (talk) 03:45, 8 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't understand why such confusion would arise, I'm afraid. To me, your edit merely made the wording clunkier (no offense intended).  —David Levy 03:56, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Cheers! —67.14.236.50 (talk) 04:00, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

File:American Polyconic projection.jpg
Could you create File:American Polyconic projection.jpg with the following content:

Regards, Armbrust The Homunculus 04:06, 8 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Done. Apologies for missing this step.  (I renamed the image to remove it from an "/ad" subdirectory, which triggers false positives in some ad-blocking software.)  —David Levy 04:22/04:26, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

16 July 2016 thank you
Thank you for a great solution of the image problem! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:39, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

File:NTSB 2015 Philadelphia train derailment 4 cropped.jpg
Hi David, would you please unprotect File:NTSB 2015 Philadelphia train derailment 4 cropped.jpg, as it is no longer displayed on the main page? I'd like to make changes to improve it. Thanks,  F ASTILY   08:03, 20 July 2016 (UTC)


 * I've unprotected the file. —David Levy 08:05, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! - F ASTILY   08:06, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

File:Cmbox protection.png listed for discussion
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Files you protected for main page usage
Greetings, maybe I already asked you but I wondered if it's OK to remove edit protection (not move or upload protection) for files you protected for main page usage. Editing the file page has no effect on the image display so I believe that such a change is safe to do.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 08:29, 2 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Jo-Jo: Yes, please feel free to make this change wherever you deem it appropriate. —David Levy 18:52, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Editnotices/Page/Template:Did you know/Queue
Template:Editnotices/Page/Template:Did you know/Queue has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. P p p e<big style="position:relative;top:10px">r y <big style="position:relative;top:5px">(talk) 23:36, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

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Aug 29
Just making you aware of these edits. As always, I see nothing! I know nothing! - Dank (push to talk) 12:24, 29 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Dan: Thanks! I used the 177px width because it resulted in a 100px height and reduced the likelihood of the caption wrapping to a second line, but 150px is fine (particularly given the resultant parity with ITN's current image, for which the aspect ratio is identical and the aforementioned line wrap is unavoidable).  —David Levy 15:31, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Makes sense, thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 15:32, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for responding to the ping ... the version of the page when i pinged was this. I'm doing pings automatically if any image issue shows up, regardless, if that's okay. - Dank (push to talk) 12:44, 6 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Dan Yes, your pings are helpful and appreciated. —David Levy 12:49, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

September 14: WikiWednesday Salon / Wikimedia NYC Annual Meeting
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Proposed deletion of Category:Wikipedia pages containing incorrect parameters
You may be interested in this discussion about Category:Wikipedia pages containing incorrect parameters, which you created back in 2008. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:53, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * The category has been deleted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:50, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Ц listed at Redirects for discussion
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DYK
Hi David, I may have disagreed with you sometimes on main page images but credit where credit's due... This is IMO much wittier than the original hook, and we get a rhyme thrown in at no extra cost -- nicely done! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:28, 30 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Ian: Thanks, but the nominator actually proposed both versions. (I merely tweaked the original hook slightly.)  I'm struggling to understand why the "pissed at Pyst" hook (which inappropriately used the word "pissed" in Wikipedia's voice) was deemed more suitable.  —David Levy 23:47, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Well nicely selected anyway... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:50, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Heads up
Hi David, just to let you know we've got another randomized POTD coming up on October 25th. I'd appreciate it if you could protect the images (at Template:POTD/2016-10-25/1 and following) when the time comes. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:28, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Chris: Will do. Thanks!  —David Levy 17:49, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:30, 11 October 2016 (UTC)

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File:1873 $1 Seated Liberty TFA.png
Hi David. Could you please unprotect File:1873 $1 Seated Liberty TFA.png, as it is no longer displayed on the main page? Thanks,  F ASTILY   01:27, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Also: File:Franklin Half 1963 D Obverse TFA.png & File:1873 $1 Seated Liberty TFA.png. Thanks,   F ASTILY   01:38, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Fastily: I've unprotected both files. (You mentioned one in both messages.  Did you intend to link to a third file?)  —David Levy 02:52, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Just two files, I duplicated a link by accident. Thanks,   F ASTILY   04:05, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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File:Dave Brubeck 2009 cropped.jpg
Hi David, could you please unprotect File:Dave Brubeck 2009 cropped.jpg, as it is no longer on the main page? Thanks,  F ASTILY   00:53, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Also File:Lyndon B. Johnson taking the oath of office, November 1963 cropped.jpg. Thanks,   F ASTILY   00:55, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I've unprotected the files. —David Levy 00:57, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Could you also unprotect one more for the same reason - File:Pakalitha Mosisili cropped.jpg? Thanks,   F ASTILY   01:02, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Done. —David Levy 01:04, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks! 😀 - F ASTILY   01:05, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

More files for unprotecting
Hi David, the following files were protected by you but are no longer on the main page; would you please unprotect them?
 * File:McCool&Morris1979 TFA.jpg
 * File:Hosni Mubarak - World Economic Forum on the Middle East 2008 edit1 cropped.jpg
 * File:RE Taavi Rõivas cropped.jpg
 * File:Margaret Thatcher cropped.jpg

Thanks,  F ASTILY   07:11, 25 October 2016 (UTC)


 * I've unprotected the files. —David Levy 12:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you! 😀- F ASTILY   00:44, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Saturday November 12: Women in Science Edit-a-thon @ NY Academy of Sciences (plus Sunday Indigenous People's Justice event)
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Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins
Hello,

Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

A new user right for New Page Patrollers
Hi.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins) .MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Hook image
Hello, thank you for creating crop derivatives of some of my DYK hooks in the past especially William P. Ragsdale. Can you possibly create a better version of File:John Timoteo Baker modeling as Kamehameha I, composite (PP-67-8-013).jpg that would be better for the main page? Please crop sides a little smaller but still show entire figure and the spear he is holding. Please also clean and restore a bit. Please create this as a derivative file. Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:51, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

—David Levy 20:58, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. They look great.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:10, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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Another POTD set
Hi David. We'll be having another POTD set on December 17th. I'd appreciate it if you could protect File:St Paul's Cathedral Interior Dome 3, London, UK - Diliff.jpg, File:St Paul's Cathedral Nave, London, UK - Diliff.jpg, File:St Paul's Cathedral Choir looking west, London, UK - Diliff.jpg, File:St Paul's Cathedral Choir looking east, London, UK - Diliff.jpg, File:St Paul's Cathedral High Altar, London, UK - Diliff.jpg, and File:St Paul's Cathedral Chapel of St Michael & St George, London UK - Diliff.jpg until after that time. Thanks. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:58, 29 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Chris: Thanks again for letting me know.  I've inserted code to trigger the six images' protection on December 16 and 17.  —David Levy 16:32, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks muchly. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:03, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

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Nightclub picture
Hi, if you have time could you crop the current picture a little tighter to a more regular 4:3? Best wishes for the new year. Stephen 10:58, 1 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Done. Best wishes to you as well.  —David Levy 00:19, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Please self-revert your image swap of Chrysler Building in DYK queue
David, I'm sure you meant well, but the previous image has a much better view of the iconic crown, a much better contrast between building & sky, and showcases a nationally recognized photographer. The substitute image has a badly foreshortened perspective and a badly monochrome cast, which combine to make this landmark building almost unrecognizable at thumbnail size.

The previous image was painstakingly selected out of hundreds available, and approved by the GA reviewer, the DYK nomination reviewer, the DYK prep reviewer, the DYK queue promoter, and the US Library of Congress. Overriding everyone else's judgment unilaterally, at the 11th hour on an admin-only page, hardly seems a good example of either WP collegiality or photographic discernment. I hope you'll please reconsider and self-revert. —Patrug (talk) 07:42, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello David Levy, I'm aware that I'm not supposed to revert other admin edits without prior discussion, but assume that you aren't online any longer (checked your contributions) and the queue is going to hit the homepage in a few hours. I've thus actioned the above request, uploaded the former image to WP, and protected it. Hope it's not causing any headache. It's now bedtime for me and if you had good reasons for swapping the image, please revert my edits.  Schwede 66  09:10, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for acting. You were correct that I was no longer online (and I'm black momentarily by a fluke).  —David Levy 09:45, 16 January 2017 (UTC)


 * My apologies. I performed the change for reasons related to the image's aspect ratio and unsuitability for cropping.  It wasn't my intent to override anyone's painstaking judgment, the extent of which evidently far exceeded that which typically is applied to images in this context.  —David Levy 09:45, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

File:John Henry Wise at Oberlin College.jpg
Can you make an enhanced version for DYK promotion?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:53, 23 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Not a problem. I should have time tomorrow.  —David Levy 04:39, 23 January 2017 (UTC)


 * KAVEBEAR: I just uploaded four new crops. Either John Henry Wise at Oberlin College (mid 2x3).jpg or John Henry Wise at Oberlin College (mid 4x5).jpg would be suitable for use at DYK.
 * John Henry Wise at Oberlin College (wide 3x4).jpg John Henry Wise at Oberlin College (wide 2x3).jpg John Henry Wise at Oberlin College (mid 2x3).jpg John Henry Wise at Oberlin College (mid 4x5).jpg
 * —David Levy 01:28, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Request
Would you mind taking a look at the WP:MILHIST talk page, "Battle of Bit Hakeim" section? I would appreciate an objective look at what is happening there. Thnx. Primergrey (talk) 14:07, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you
Hello! I just wanted to thank you for your edit to the Love, Inc. (TV series) article as I agree that the picture of Holly Robinson Peete is much more appropriate than the one with Phillips for the reason you mentioned in your edit summary. I am not sure why I did not realize that earlier so I greatly appreciate it. Aoba47 (talk) 14:39, 31 January 2017 (UTC)


 * Aoba47: Hello! Glad to help.  It's a cropped version of a picture that I found on Flickr last night (appropriately licensed and taken by a trusted photographer with hundreds of Wikimedia Commons files).  When you selected the Busy Philipps image, it's likely that there simply wasn't a better option available at the time.  —David Levy 15:46, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

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13:38, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

The Allen Walker cosplayer pic
Actually, your edit summary notwithstanding, the image could be kept in the article per the NFCC if there was sufficient fair-use justification ... but there isn't, and doesn't look likely to me that there will be since it would have to take the form of non-trivial sourced commentary on the image itself in multiple reliable sources. Not likely to happen for a cosplay pic from a con. Daniel Case (talk) 06:43, 4 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes, that was my thought process as well. It seems unlikely that a valid fair use rationale exists or will exist.  —David Levy 06:51, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Upcoming DYK for [[HMS Spiteful (1899)]]
Hi, thanks for your interest in the upcoming DYK for this article. About this edit, are you sure that you want to add that single comma? By my reckoning, in that sort of construction, either two commas are needed (in this instance "that, in 1904, ...") or none, as the hook previously stood. Also I'd be grateful for a speedy response to my comment on your talk page at WM Commons, if you haven't already seen it. Cheers. Nortonius (talk) 16:08, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Nortonius: This might be an English variety issue. (I'm American.)  British English obviously takes precedence in this instance, so I've inserted a second comma.  (I believe that this comes closer to achieving commonality than the use of no commas does.)
 * Also, I've responded on my Commons talk page. —David Levy 18:36, 7 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Yes it looks much like an Engvar issue – as you have it now is fine by me! I'm also more than happy with the latest version of the image for the article, and I'll say so there too to keep things tidy. All round I'm very grateful for your prompt responses. Nortonius (talk) 18:45, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Template:Did you know/Queue/3
Hey. Just so you know the DYK about Neurological Society of India, S. T. Narasimhan, and Baldev Singh has already appeared on the main page. - <span style="color:#808080;font-size:15px;font-family:'Georgia, serif';font-style: italic;font-weight: bold;">Vivvt ( Talk ) 21:02, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Vivvt. That's intentional.  (It's the "recycled hook" to which I referred in .)  Its reuse is a means of padding the section (to improve the main page columns' balance) without depleting the DYK reserve.  To minimize the number of readers seeing it twice, I selected a hook that previously appeared via a 12:00 (UTC) update.  —David Levy 21:35, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh Okay. Thanks for the clarification. - <span style="color:#808080;font-size:15px;font-family:'Georgia, serif';font-style: italic;font-weight: bold;">Vivvt ( Talk ) 21:53, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

February 15: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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MacBook
Thanks for fixing. Do we no longer redirect when moving pages for a short period? <em style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#6600CC">NJA <em style="color:#63D1F4">(t/ <em style="color:#63D1F4">c)  07:03, 15 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I don't know what you mean by "for a short period".
 * I deleted the new redirect to make way for one to the title's original target, for the purpose of maintaining clarity in the edit history. I then reverted the move.
 * As noted in my summary, we don't redirect "Foo" to "Foo (disambiguation term)". If you believe that the product's current version is now the primary usage of the name "MacBook", please file a request to move its article to to that title.  (Note that this was proposed and rejected in 2015.)  —David Levy 07:08, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I definitely think the current article is not what people expect to be the common name. I missed the old rejection of the proposal, however that was at a time when the current linked model was still available. That's no longer the case and Apple refers to their discontinued product as the MacBook (13-inch) and the only product now sold as MacBook is the MacBook (Retina) article. I do think something should happen to reflect the current reality, but as you’ve noted the previous consensus and expressed some objection perhaps it needs to go to the requests page for discussion. Thanks. <em style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;color:#6600CC">NJA <em style="color:#63D1F4">(t/ <em style="color:#63D1F4">c)  07:19, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * To be clear, I don't know enough about the subject to formulate a personal opinion as to where "MacBook" should lead. Indeed, it appears that a new discussion is in order (and if the title is retargeted to the current model's article, this should occur via an actual move thereto, not redirection therefrom).  —David Levy 07:37, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Cropped image


Hi, the image you cropped is very tight; you can't see what she's doing at all. Would it be possible to show her throwing arm? Best, Yoninah (talk) 20:36, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, Yoninah. Given her position and the camera angle, it's feasible to include a portion of her throwing arm (but not her hand or the ball) in a thumbnail-friendly crop.
 * Another option is to bend the rules by substituting this image at DYK.
 * Do you have a preference? —David Levy 21:19, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I guess the looser crop (top). She looks like she's making waffles in the second shot. Yoninah (talk) 22:01, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Done. —David Levy 22:10, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

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Ilka Gedo article
I used copyrighted material although I myself was its author. The article was shortened and after that I was blocked from editing. I asked for the copyright release of this material.

Ticket#2017030410000259

Then I was unblocked. Giving permission for releasing the copyright to Wikipedia will take more than 150 days, so they say. (In this time I could die, then no one would be around to make the needed corrections, in fact a lot of my  compatriots would be quite happy to see that the reputation of an envied artist is impaired.) In the meantime, however, the reputation of this artist will suffer considerable damage. How could I shorten this time.

Hungarian David Biro (talk) 13:57, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Dog petroglyph
Hello, can you help me with another possible DYK image. I was wondering what do you think can be done to enhance this image: File:Dog petroglyph from meʻae Iʻipona, Puamaʻu Village, Hiva Oa, Marquesas Islands, photograph by Moth Clark, 2009.jpg a little more? I want to bring it out of the shadow some more, possibly brightening or changing the contrast may help. Please don't crop it though. Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:55, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * KAVEBEAR: Is this what you had in mind? —David Levy 20:56, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Can you possibly brighten the corner on the top right?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:00, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * KAVEBEAR: How's this? —David Levy 22:32, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Looks great.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:39, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello, I am actually still seeing the darkness. Here is what User:Maile66 told me may be the problem, what do you think? I mean compare the image as it appears on Marquesan Dog with the source. It's no big deal but maybe with that you might have a better idea on what to do. Thanks. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:57, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
 * KAVEBEAR:I adjusted the brightness/contrast, not the focus or sharpness. Is there a particular portion (or portions) of the image that you want me to lighten?  —David Levy 01:55, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

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Sunday March 26: Action=History Wiki-Hackathon @ Ace Hotel
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Protected title
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Template:Current
I've seen you are active in the discussions on this template talk page, so I figure you might be interested in this discussion. Template:Current - Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 13:47, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

MP
I don't know what to think about cropping the image of the St Matthew Passion. It makes the hook wrong, because it claims the chorale between the two choirs to be pictured, - while on the cropped image, you only see chorale and the short exclamations choir 2 is throwing in, nothing of choir 1, - hardly illustrating the balanced masterpiece that work is. - Thank you for trying, but I believe the structure is clearer on the full page, even if details don't show. - Need sleep now, - please consider. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

ps: If you decide to leave the image cropped, you will have to change the caption, - it's not a "Page", only the lower half of a page.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 13 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Gerda: Thanks very much for your note. I've reverted to the uncropped image, at a slightly larger size than before (matching the height of the image appearing simultaneously at TFA) and with some custom formatting to address the layout issues that arise with thumbnails under 100px in width.  —David Levy 23:29, 13 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Gerda: I just noticed that you also expressed your concern at Main Page/Errors, which was a sensible measure (in case I didn't see the above message in time). In the future, please either mention this on the user's talk page or ping him/her via the error report.  (You may have intended to do so, but you linked to my talk page instead of my user page.)  Thanks!  —David Levy 00:18, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for understanding, - including that it was past midnight and I forgot to ping, - I needed the link to the talk page to not repeat, was at least awake enough for that ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 14 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Gerda: Likewise, thank you for understanding (and the politeness with which you contacted me). Apologies for any distress caused.  —David Levy 15:27, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 16, 2017 - King Kalakaua's world tour
Today's featured article/April 16, 2017 I don't know why you just cropped the image the way you did, but it looks weird, and somewhat unprofessional considering how the whole image looks. You took off half the image. Can you explain, perhaps even restore it to the way it was? — Maile (talk) 23:16, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Maile66: The cropping is necessary to display a reasonable amount of detail at this size. The article's subject – which the image is intended to illustrate – is the event, not the political cartoon itself, so the thumbnail needn't contain the latter in its entirety.  Note that clicking on it leads directly to the uncropped version's description page (our standard practice in such cases).  —David Levy 23:33, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * I did click on it. Still looks odd to me, but at least it clicks through to the entire image. — Maile  (talk) 23:37, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Maile66: While not ideal, such cropping is significantly better than the alternative (which results in an image essentially unrecognizable to the site's visitors). It's a necessary compromise.  —David Levy 23:41, 15 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Actually ... now that I see it on the main page, it looks better with the cropping. You are correct. — Maile  (talk) 00:08, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

While your good intentions are appreciated...
...please revert this. The purpose of a DYK item is to interest and entice the reader, not act as a wanted poster.  E Eng  08:40, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the color adjustments!  E Eng  04:21, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
 * EEng: You're welcome! I'm always happy to perform such tweaks when the need arises, so feel free to ask.  —David Levy 04:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Main page images
Hi David, thanks for your explanation here about the difference between the template parameters that lead to changes in layout of captions. I had wondered why the 120x133 was used, rather than 100x100, but had not realised the implications; it's helpful to learn something new about WP. :) Regards, EdChem (talk) 22:43, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

TFAIMAGE and Main page image
Hi David - following on from a report at WP:ERRORS today, is there any chance that you could tweak TFAIMAGE to include support for a "caption" parameter, as at main page image? That would end the current need to swap between the two templates depending on whether the picture did or did not need visible words underneath (as opposed to hovertext or alt text). Thanks BencherliteTalk 15:21, 25 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Bencherlite: Yes, that should be doable. I'll work on it soon.  —David Levy 23:37, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Why ...
... do you think the 2013 image of the Altenberger Dom is superior. I see cars while we talk about a 19th century hook, and more trees hiding the architecture. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 28 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Gerda: As indicated in the filename, File:Altenberger Dom HDR.jpg has a great deal of HDR processing applied, giving it an artificial appearance (especially at thumbnail size).
 * I just retouched the 2013 photograph to remove the cars. If you'd still prefer to use the 2008 photograph at DYK, please let me know (and I'll revert to it).  —David Levy 00:06, 29 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for explaining, understood. Thank you also for the extra effort of retouching. I generally admire what you do about images on the Main page! Just please do it a little sooner, to avoid me being in a bad mood because I notice something an hour after bedtime. The Altenberger Dom belongs to my childhood memories, I guess that's why I found the dream-like image more appealing. I hope to remember what HDR means, for next time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:09, 1 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Gerda: Thanks very much. I will try to handle such matters further in advance (when feasible).
 * Note that HDR processing isn't always applied this heavily, so it doesn't necessarily result in a marked departure from real life. —David Levy 20:15, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

TFA picture for F&SF
David, I gather that you're the TFA picture expert. F&SF is going to be TFA on 5/15, and Gordon Van Gelder, the editor, has sent me a photo I'd like to use of him with Ed and Audrey Ferman. It was taken by Beth Gwinn, and I have an email chain from Beth through Gordon indicating she is fine with it being used on Wikipedia. I've never dealt with getting third party permission, but my recollection is that there has to be some formal step taken by the copyright owner, so I assume this email chain is not enough. Can you let me know what needs to be done to get the picture OKed? I suspect this can't be done before the article is on the main page, but perhaps it will still be linked from the main page. Any help would be appreciated -- thanks. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:55, 13 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Mike: For Wikipedia to use the photograph, Beth Gwinn must release it (or a version thereof) under a free license that permits modification, redistribution and commercial use.
 * Requesting copyright permission explains the process, which entails uploading the image to the Wikimedia Commons and creating an OTRS ticket.
 * I hope that this information is helpful. —David Levy 03:55, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * It is; thanks. I've let Gordon know, and with luck we'll get it turned around in time to use the picture. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 10:24, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

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ITN pic
David, you might be interested in the discussion about the pic of Chris Cornell at WP:MP/E. – Sca (talk) 15:05, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * For the record, I agree that it was counter-intuitive (which I attempted to mitigate). —David Levy 18:10, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Sca (talk) 23:07, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Now more discussion here. Sca (talk) 13:49, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

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Multiple images again

 * Hi David, long time no see. On June 10th, we'll have another multi-header at POTD with the images File:17 Years of Sekar Jepun 2014-11-01 05.jpg, File:17 Years of Sekar Jepun 2014-11-01 42.jpg, and File:17 Years of Sekar Jepun 2014-11-01 44.jpg. If you could protect those before the tenth, I'd be grateful. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:16, 28 May 2017 (UTC)


 * Chris: Thanks again for the heads-up. I just inserted code to trigger the images' protection on June 9 and 10.  —David Levy 18:48, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:20, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

'Talk' tabs
Hi David. I'm looking for advice.

After a dozen years of trying to improve our product in usually small ways, I had a comparatively big idea: Why not replace the 'talk' tabs at the top of articles with one that says 'discuss' – ??

This thought came to me recently after a chat with a grocery store clerk who, noticing my Wikipedia T-shirt, told me what a great thing he thinks Wiki is and how much time he spends with us. In the ensuing conversation, I mentioned the 'talk' tabs leading to 'talk' pages where, in the case of controversial topics or details that aren't fully documented, one can find arguments, questions, advice on sources, and so forth. This guy, who said he'd been reading Wiki for years, had never noticed the 'talk' tabs. (I've talked to others who've said the same.)

I suspect that many readers, if they do notice 'talk,' just shrug their shoulders and move on. Perhaps if we changed the label to Discuss that would give them a better idea of what those pages are about, and more would be drawn in.

What do you think of this idea? And, if by chance you like it, where could I propose it?

Thanks. Sca (talk) 21:42, 5 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi, Sca.  The tab's default label is "Discussion".  A 2007 discussion led to  with "Talk", but this .  The change was proposed again and  in 2011 (and has remained in effect since).
 * I believe that the matter is worth revisiting, ideally in the broader context of improving talk pages' prominence and clarity of purpose. Village pump (proposals) would be the appropriate forum for a concrete proposal, but it might be prudent to brainstorm potential improvements at Village pump (idea lab) beforehand.  —David Levy 22:39, 5 June 2017 (UTC)


 * ✅ – Sca (talk) 22:24, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * So much for that idea. Sca (talk) 14:48, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

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Template help?
Greetings, David Levy. I've heard your name mentioned among those who know what they are doing with wiki markup; if possible, could you help me figure out why this template is displaying so strangely (ie lot of blank space)? It was fine until not long ago, and I can find no evidence of tampering in the edit history...Vanamonde (talk) 04:49, 19 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Vanamonde: I don't see any obvious display problems on my end. Can you upload a screenshot?  —David Levy 17:34, 19 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Apologies for the delay: this link should work, please let me know if it does not. Vanamonde (talk) 05:15, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Vanamonde: I'm guessing that this is related to recent changes to navbar. I just adjusted that sub-template's implementation in Template:Covert United States involvement in regime change.  Does it look okay now?  —David Levy 04:00, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes it does, many thanks! See, I wouldn't even have known to think of that...Vanamonde (talk) 04:46, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Two more POTDs with multiple images
Hi David. When it comes time, could you protect the five images at Template:POTD/2017-07-01 and the two images at Template:POTD/2017-07-08? I'm going to be out of town until at least the 29th, so I'm making the request today. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:31, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Okay, no problem. Thanks!  —David Levy 04:00, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Today's featured article/July 20, 2017
Thoughts on their choice of image for this date? July 20 is the birthday of Cornell, who died recently, that's the date connection. If you think a picture of him would work better, I can mention his birthday in the rollover text. - Dank (push to talk) 14:49, 24 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Dank: I'll look over the available images to see which works best at thumbnail size. —David Levy 18:41, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

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Prep 6
Hi, I notice you often crop images so they're more visible at thumbnail size. I just added this image to Prep 6; do you think the bird could be enlarged? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 16:08, 7 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Yoninah: Sure, no problem. Thanks for the note.  —David Levy 23:28, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

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DYK image on main page right now
I just want to thank you for changing the main page image for the current DYK set. We've already run this actress' image before, and the bagel and cream cheese image is very high quality. I didn't feel it was my place to override another promoter's hook placement, though. I'm glad you as an administrator can overrule everyone! Best, Yoninah (talk) 14:26, 2 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Yoninah: Please note that administrators possess no special authority to "overrule" others' content decisions. I have the technical ability to edit a protected page (and I'm the most active admin in the area of main page image matters, so I often notice problems therewith), but you have just as much right to address such issues when they arise.
 * If you're ever unsure about what to do or otherwise require assistance, feel free to message me (or someone else who might be able to help). —David Levy 15:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
 * OK. But thanks again! Yoninah (talk) 16:59, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Today's featured article/August 6, 2017
Not following. We used Harrison Ford for the Blade Runner TFA, and I thought the actor who's most identified with a show was suitable for a TFA on the show. - Dank (push to talk) 02:24, 6 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Dan: As the top-billed star, Harrison Ford's participation in Blade Runner is, indeed, one of its best known elements.
 * There are game show hosts whose roles carry comparable associations, but Brooke Burns isn't among them. The person most identified with the show – by far – is Mark Labbett (a.k.a. "The Beast"), who performs the titular chase.  (Note that I'm a fan of the show and the genre.)
 * Given that Labbett is notable almost exclusively for this role (carried over from the show's UK version), a hypothetical free photograph of him would be sufficiently relevant. Conversely, Burns isn't known primarily as a game show host, and this probably isn't even the best known game show that she's hosted (as Dog Eat Dog reached a larger audience).
 * Her photograph belongs in the article, of course, but a summary presents a narrower context (wherein her relevance to the subject is too minor for the image to carry significant illustrative value). —David Levy 03:01, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Another double header

 * Hi David. We've got another double header POTD coming up on August 19th: File:Biham-Middleton-Levine traffic model self-organized to a globally jammed phase.ogv and File:Biham-Middleton-Levine traffic model self-organized to a free flowing phase.ogv. Could you set it for automatic protection? Thanks. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:43, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Chris: Will do.  Thanks!  —David Levy 12:26, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Solar Eclipse image on the Main Page
Please use the official HQ one from NASA, not a screenshot..-- Stemoc 23:43, 21 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Done. Thanks!  —David Levy 00:17, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Main Page image
Can you imagine how File:Total solar eclipse August 2017.jpg still appears on tons of Main Page-related pages, even though you've switched it out? I was going to unprotect it, but I won't do that when it's still linked all over the place. Nyttend (talk) 01:58, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


 * I hadn't updated WP:CMP yet. (Apologies for the delay.)  I've unprotected the above-mentioned file.  —David Levy 03:41, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

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Triple feature

 * Hi David. Just a heads up, on 6 September we'll be running three images: File:Eastern face of west gate, Taman Sari, Yogyakarta, 2014-04-24 (from 19 images).jpg, File:Tower in Taman Sari, 2014-05-19.jpg, and File:Eastern face of Eastern Gate, Taman Sari, Yogyakarta, 2014-05-07.jpg. Could you protect them when the time comes? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:16, 26 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Chris: Will do. Thanks!  —David Levy 03:44, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:50, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

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Featured article candidates/Der 100. Psalm/archive1, I think I remember that you made the lead image available. Can you help with a license? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

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Prep 2
Hi, is there anything you can do to make the thumbnail image larger? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 14:27, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I've cropped the image. —David Levy 23:25, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks, it looks much better! Yoninah (talk) 23:48, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

Precious
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:17, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Could you take a look at Today's featured article/February 2, 2018 and see if a little less background would help seeing it even in small size? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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Prep 4
Hi, I was wondering if there is any way to lighten the image in Prep 4 (Nativity scene) so the colors will show up better at thumbnail size. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 17:42, 23 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Yoninah: Do you mean "darken"? —David Levy 06:04, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


 * On my computer, it looks very dark. But maybe my monitor settings are off. Yoninah (talk) 12:06, 24 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Yoninah: I think this was more a matter of contrast (which I've adjusted) than one of brightness. How does the thumbnail look now (on the main page) ?  —David Levy 00:14, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Ooh, nice! The colors pop! Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:19, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Another image request
Hi, there's a horizontal image currently in Template:Did you know/Preparation area 3 which really could be a vertical (portrait) image, as the person being talked about is the one at the left. Would you be able to crop and re-orient the image? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 15:48, 1 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Yoninah: Apologies for the delay. The cropped image is on the main page.  —David Levy 01:09, 5 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! It looks much better. Yoninah (talk) 01:27, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Today's featured article/January 23, 2018
David, I fear that I might be trying to teach my grandmother to suck eggs on this one, but just to let you know that the main editor on this one requested that the TFA image should be as large as is permitted since if it's too small you can't really tell what's going on, and using just part of the image loses the point of the painting. Apologies if all this is blindingly obvious to you as our TFA image expert <b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">Jimfbleak</b> - talk to me?  07:02, 6 January 2018 (UTC)


 * On the contrary, I appreciate such input and thank you for passing it along. (As familiar as I am with our main page image conventions, there certainly are instances in which article-specific issues/concerns aren't readily apparent.)
 * I've increased the image's size to 163x133px. This is about 50% larger than usual, but we sometimes make such exceptions for artwork (because of the above-average relevance to the article's subject and importance of the details' viability).
 * Thanks again! —David Levy 20:54, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Prep 4
Hi, at thumbnail size the image looks like mostly sky. Could you enlarge the church part? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 12:21, 21 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Yoninah: Apologies for not getting to this in time. As I've mentioned on DYK's talk page, the accelerated updates make such matters trickier to manage.  —David Levy 01:21, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I totally agree. It's become too fast for me to keep up with, too. Yoninah (talk) 14:46, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

Freedom Planet
David, any thoughts on File:Freedom_Planet_Torque_Sketch.jpg for the TFA on March 17? It's from the press kit. It's CC-BY-SA, and that's a reasonable depiction of one of the main characters. - Dank (push to talk) 22:49, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * And while I'm here ... any objection to File:Jason Isaacs by Gage Skidmore.jpg for Today's featured article/March 28, 2018? - Dank (push to talk) 23:55, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Rescheduled to Today's featured article/March 31, 2018. - Dank (push to talk) 23:36, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Dan: I've added the images, both of which seem suitable. —David Levy 00:37, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, pinging Wehwalt. (I don't know much about Main Page images, so I always have to ask.) David, if we can start using copyleft concept art at TFA, this is probably something WP:VG will want to know, should I raise the issue there? - Dank (push to talk) 01:30, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about main page images, either, I confess.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:37, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Dan: If the wikiproject's denizens are unaware of the option, it certainly makes sense to bring it to their attention. This is one of the trickier subject areas in which to find free media, so a sketch of a major character is an exceptionally nice illustration to get onto the main page.  —David Levy 04:11, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

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Today's featured article/March 13, 2018‎
I imagine the most recent edit, the image change, might be controversial, but I don't know. - Dank (push to talk) 13:17, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

File:Shaitan Singh.jpg
Hi, I wonder if you could help me here. I'd like a crop of the upper half of the statue for a thumbnail image for DYK. Could you do that, and post it at the nomination template here? I hope it's not too dark. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 13:12, 7 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Yoninah: Apologies for the delay. I was about to take care of this, but I see that someone else did so in the interim.  —David Levy 18:54, 16 March 2018 (UTC)


 * That's okay. The lead image in Prep 6, File:Mount Soledad Cross WF.jpg, looks very dark at thumbnail size. Could you lighten or fix the contrast on that for us? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 06:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Yoninah: I downloaded the image from the source specified and adjusted the levels.
 * After uploading, I realized that previous version actually is a different shot taken by the same photographer from a slightly different angle. (Apparently, the original Commons uploader accidentally submitted the wrong file or linked to the wrong page.)
 * I personally prefer this angle, but if you disagree, feel free to revert to the other image (and I'll adjust its levels when I have the time). —David Levy 19:47, 19 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Do you mean you prefer the angle that now appears in Prep 6, sort of a head-on shot? I agree, especially because it's lighter and easier to make out. Yoninah (talk) 19:53, 19 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, I prefer the angle of the version that I uploaded (because the structure's shape is shown more clearly, with the sky visible through the cutouts). It's lighter because I adjusted the levels, so that isn't an intrinsic difference.  —David Levy 20:00, 19 March 2018 (UTC)


 * OK, but when I click on the image in the queue, it goes back to the old version. Can you fix that, and make sure it appears in the article? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 19 March 2018 (UTC)


 * If you're still seeing the old version, you might need to bypass your cache. —David Levy 21:02, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

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