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Did you ever get an answer to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk/Archives/2020_July_9#Is_including_text_directly_from_ballot_initiatives_acceptable? this question], which I just saw?— Vchimpanzee  •  talk  •  contributions  •  22:27, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
 * nope. I ended up including the text in the article I was writing, though. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 01:56, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

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Synopsis section
Hi and thanks for reviewing The Men We Repeated. I wanted to give you a heads up that a synopsis or plot section for a book entry generally does not require cited sources as the source is assumed to be the book itself (ie, WP editors writing those entries need not cite page numbers for each plot point). Now, if such a section contained analysis of themes, etc., that does need a source—but it should probably also be under a different header. Anyway, just a heads up, hope it’s helpful in your NPR work—thank you for your efforts! Innisfree987 (talk) 18:22, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ah, fair enough, I wasn't sure about that after skimming through the guidelines. Thanks for the information! Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 18:35, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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2016 DC Shadow Representative Election
Hello, I have created a new page (2016 United States Shadow Representative election in the District of Columbia) as part of my goal of adding pages for all DC elections. I tried to do a new thing with recording under/overvotes since they are recorded at the source. Since you looked over the two previous pages I made, I was wondering if you could review this one as well to see if it fits in with wikipedia conventions. Baconheimian (talk) 19:56, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for reaching out! The article looks mostly good, so I've approved it. My suggestion would be to create Category:Washington, D.C. Shadow Representative elections, it doesn't have to be a particularly detailed page - just categorize it as Category:Washington, D.C. elections. About overvotes and undervotes - I'm not sure about how other articles deal with that, but what you've done should be fine. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 20:49, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

2012 Arkansas Amendment 91
Hi, your move to add the year to 2012 Arkansas Amendment 91 does not make sense to me. There will never be another Amendment 91 in Arkansas. In my opinion, this would make more sense for issues that do not pass (i.e., 2012 Arkansas Issue 1, 2020 Arkansas Issue 1) as they are numbered sequentially based on how they appear on that ballot, so names get reused. But if approved, they become sequentially numbered constitutional amendments. The year is not really relevant.

Prior to 1988, the issues sent to the voters were numbered as "Proposed Amendment _" on the ballot, and there is duplication where a number was re-used if it didn't pass. I agree the "year Arkansas Amendment ##" format makes sense for articles on those amendments.  Brandonrush Woo pig sooie!  01:50, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I'm not sure of the exact intricacies of the Arkansas amendment process. I'm not sure what the best thing to do would be for consistency sake - the policy says "use the format "Year Jurisdiction Measure Identifier"" - so I'd be inclined to name it 2012 Arkansas Issue 1, or at least have that be a redirect. Really not sure, I don't care too strongly but I do like having some consistency so maybe we should have someone else weigh in. Is there any other way of having the constitution amended? I think that might change things (since having "2012 Arkansas Amendment 91" but then just "Arkansas Amendment 92" [since it wasn't a ballot measure] would not make much sense). Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 16:32, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

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Presidency of John Kufuor
Please review again. Kwesi Yema (talk) 03:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks for creating and expanding the article - I've copyedited it a bit. Please note that when you copy content from one article into another, you should write which article you copied from in the edit summary. Also, please make sure you put references directly after text, as follows: . Thanks! Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 04:23, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Well noted. Kwesi Yema (talk) 15:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

SponsorBlock moved to draftspace
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 * I feel like this is somewhat unfair. The extension has been featured and reviewed on Mozilla's blog before (and Mozilla is generally considered somewhat of an authority on web-related subjects) as well as in Chip (magazine). Sure, more sources are nice, but two is enough for notability. I could add a Gadget Hacks source additionally, but though they have a Wikipedia page, I'm unsure of their reliability - no comments when I asked on the sources noticeboard. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 03:30, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I moved it to give you a chance to improve it with better sources, because I think it would otherwise be deleted at an AfD. But I don't decide that, the community does at AfD. Add what you can, from substantial 3rd party reliable published sources, not press releases or blogs or postings or mere notices .  If you think the publications are good enough, submit it, and see if another reviewer approves it. I or anyone can then decide to send it to AfD; if it's sent there,  make your argument, and the community will decide. I do not make the decision.  DGG ( talk ) 05:16, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * fair enough. I'll see about adding more sources to it soon. I do appreciate you not speedying it, at least. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 05:54, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

vcash
Hi Elliot321, I had make some changes on vcash based on your comments, though I still got question regarding further improvement that need to be done. You can see the question I left in talk page. Thanks. WPSamson (talk) 03:24, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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Featured picture candidates/Utah Monolith
Hey there! Could you clarify if you support the alt as well as the original? This is usually done by changing your vote to Support original, Support alt, or Support either. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 7.7% of all FPs 16:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * done, thanks for the reminder. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 17:16, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

New Nevada
Thanks for this. I had been wondering what New Nevada was …… AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 17:21, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * glad I could help! Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 17:24, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

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G13s on userspace drafts
You look to have nominated a bunch of userspace drafts for deletion under G13; my understanding is that they are not eligible unless they're under the Articles for creation project, which the couple I checked were not -- a number of them are by well-established editors and customarily their drafts are left alone even if apparently abandoned. Could you check and self-revert the errors, because I'm going offline shortly. Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 10:24, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * all of these were under the Articles for Creation project, as far as I could tell - they had applied to them - and got the category "Stale userspace drafts" for that reason. I'll check and revert the ones which fit the criteria you described, though I'm pretty sure my characterization is still accurate. Perhaps there should be another template to disambiguate the two types? Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 10:29, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmm. It looks like that's just the default that comes up if one starts the article using the wizard? It doesn't look like the grey Articles for creation unsubmitted box (eg Draft:The Hobbit: Armies of The Third Age) or the pink rejected submission box (eg Draft:George Feifer). I note the former has the warning "Drafts not being improved may be deleted after six months." while the ones I looked at that you have just tagged don't.


 * Looking at the instructions for WikiProject Abandoned Drafts, which is linked from the category you mention, the instructions don't seem to state they are eligible for G13? My reading of that would be leave them alone, unless clearly copyvio or contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia in some way. The G13 eligible category is Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions.


 * I'm very chary of deleting an established user's userspace drafts, however old -- it serves no purpose and has the power to significantly annoy editors who, even if currently inactive, might return to activity. Espresso Addict (talk) 10:53, 24 December 2020 (UTC)


 * ok, fair enough. The policy seemed unclear to me, but in retrospect I should've been more cautious. The place I found them from was Category:Userspace drafts from April 2014 - which implies there is a backlog - though I think that is actually an issue with the way many categories are managed - I posted a note at the categories wikiproject about this. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 10:58, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation Pages
Hi Elliot312, this is Debartolo2917. I see you have recently been marking plenty of my disambiguation pages with tags for speedy deletion, under section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion. According to section G14 of the criteria for speedy deletion, a disambiguation article may be deleted if it links to only one other page and ends with "(disambiguation)". All of my articles are above that qualification. I understand they have not yet been deleted, but am willing to talk about why you flagged them. In reference to the copy-and-paste pages, they were designed to take the place of the pages with the same name, but without the "disambiguation" tag, as they appear red when linked to.


 * while the pages link to only two pages, they only disambiguate one page, from one other page. As for the ones with (disambiguation), please make them redirects instead - and tag them with . I've been doing this for the current pages you made that followed that pattern. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 06:57, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Just noticed. Did not know how to redirect, but will do from now on. Thank you for teaching me! What is the difference between linking and disambiguating, in terms of what I am donig. It just seems a little unclear to me. Debartolo2917 (talk 07:02, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


 * it's just a semantic thing. The way I read it, and the way it logically makes sense to me, would imply that the number of pages "disambiguated" is one less than the number linked - because the criteria "disambiguate zero extant Wikipedia pages" exists (if it didn't, WP:A3 could be applied. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 07:05, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Got it. In theory the criterion then is three various links. Will replicate that in the future. Good this got clarified before I did more. Debartolo2917 (talk contribs) 07:11, 25 December 2020 (UTC)


 * yep - three links if the title ends in (disambiguation) or two if it doesn't. When there's no primary topic (the two people with the name are about as well-known) - I'd move the one at the base page to one with a disambiguating title (like moving "David Smith" to "David Smith (actor)" - and then creating the disambiguation page at David Smith). Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 07:13, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Fuck/GA1
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DYK for Openload
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Interactive election maps
Thank you for making the election maps interactive you are a legend- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lcandrews04 (talk • contribs) 04:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * glad I could help! If there's any particular maps you'd like me to get to, please let me know. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 04:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Seriously - your maps are so helpful. And yeah if you were to make interactive ones for the senate elections prior to 98' that would be great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lcandrews04 (talk • contribs) 01:49, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * of course, that's what I'm planning on doing next! btw, you might want to consider signing your messages on talk pages with ~~~~ at the end. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 02:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the help, I am new to editing Wikipedia. FYI it seems like you missed 1997 gubernationals, no rush of course just curious if you forgot it. Lcandrews04 (talk) 04:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the catch! I hope you enjoy Wikipedia... feel free to ask my any questions you have. It's certainly a unique site compared to the rest of the internet, but I enjoy it a lot. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 04:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I have been using Wikipedia probably since I was in First Grade so it is definitely fascinating learning how to edit it. I will certainly reach out if I need any help! Lcandrews04 (talk) 04:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Dylanport1
He keeps continuously adding in Ryan Webber in the voice actors in the infobox of Mickey Mouse. He also keeps using IMDb as a reference for the info, is there by any chance you could remove it again? 97.33.65.251 (talk) 01:02, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The user's edits have been reverted and they have been reported to the administrators. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 02:47, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * thanks! My first barnstar, if I'm not mistaken. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 20:13, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Only took 6 years lol Nithin🚀 talk 20:15, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * ...lol Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 20:17, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Talk before reverting
Leave a talk page message if you disagree with something I do. Don't just revert. Jehochman Talk 20:51, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but this article in particular is not the place to try to change consensus around how Requested moves works. Do I like how it works? No. But this is the wrong venue. If you start an RfC about replacing the template with something less obnoxious, or some other indication, I'd probably support it - feel free to do that. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 20:58, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Reversion of my edit
I removed a line where someone left a half finished sentence "Corruption of Joe Biden" which seemed like a troll line considering that's all it was. 47.144.8.171 (talk) 00:01, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oops, sorry for reverting that! I meant to revert the person you reverted! *facepalm* Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 10:05, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Labour editathon
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 * thanks for the notice! Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 13:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

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Barnstar thanks
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I decided to enhance that article because, as I said at DYK, I have worked on other SCOTUS 1A case articles and I realized what this one could and should be. And I knew how to write it.

I will be keeping an eye on it going forward. Daniel Case (talk) 19:27, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

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Congratulations
Your DYK hook about Snowflake ID drew 5,180 page views (432 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is the one of most viewed hooks so far during the month of February and has earned a place on the Best of February list. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 10:40, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * thanks! Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 06:37, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Creepy Joe
As creator of the redirect, I agree that your proposed target is better. Can probably be speedily closed. If you run into any of mine again you think have a better target, leave a message on my talk page and if I agree, then we can spare an RFD discussion. Hog Farm Talk 04:59, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * gotcha. I was considering retargeting, but I figured this change might be controversial since the section does have some relevant info. Anyway, have a good one. I'll close the RfD. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 05:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Involved closure
I've requested re-closure at WP:AN of the RfC you closed after voting in it. If you wish to review the instructions for closing RfCs, you can do so here. Best, Samsara 17:43, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * fair enough. I figured that per "if the matter under discussion is not contentious and the consensus is obvious to the participants, then formal closure is neither necessary nor advisable", I could close the RfC, as the consensus was very clear and non-controversial - and the RfC was not attracting more comments with a potential change to that consensus. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 20:26, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Eli Savit
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 * indeed, I do think the TorrentFreak source I used discussed the software outside of that context - and TorrentFreak is generally considered a reliable source. Also, yeah, I wasn't going to include the stuff about the developer's legal troubles, because while it's certainly the same person, it's not relevant nor is the person that generally notable (though, maybe? Edvalson v The State did cause some law changes, apparently, though not documented in reliable sources) Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 17:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * *blush* you're too kind! Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 17:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Fuck
The article Fuck you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Fuck for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of SNUGGUMS -- SNUGGUMS (talk) 01:21, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

About my redirect pages I have been creating
Firstly I wanted to thank you for fixing a mistake I had made in Template:1959 United States elections. I could not find that one small bracket that I had missed and cannot thank you enough. Secondly, you had mentioned to me that redirects should be categorized and have a template on them. Another Wikipedian told me at one point that categories aren't needed. I'm not sure about the template part though. Plus, I must say that I appreciate you complementing me about creating these redirect pages and it makes my work have a higher level of value to it. It is my exact purpose to create these pages for navigational purposes.

Skim 01:48, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * glad I could help! As for redirect categories - the categories aren't absolutely necessary when making them but applying them is much appreciated - and please use the templates when available, they are preferable to the naked cats. Elliot321 (talk &#124; contribs) 03:56, 4 March 2021 (UTC)