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Template:Hong Kong (PRC)
Guess you must be interested to take a part to decide whether this template should stay. :-) &mdash; Instantnood 20:04, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 06:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking part. &mdash; Instantnood 21:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Party logos on election results
Greetings Nightstallion.

I just noticed your post on Electionworld's talk page. I just wanted to let you know that I'm not going to start an edit war, but it is fairly obvious that common sense has little place on Wikipedia. The next logical step would naturally be to send out warnings to all the users welcoming others by saying "Use NPOV, Don't be a dick and Break all the rules" as saying this or similar must be a gross violation of whatever. But hey, if one's got to shoot oneself in the foot, why not do it properly? I now "really" regret that I spent wasted my time cleaning up that material some time ago, but I'll not make that mistake again. Regards. Valentinian (talk) 22:37, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've hardcoded it into the election article now, but this does not bode well. sighs &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 06:03, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi again
Sorry to bother you again Nightstallion, but I'm failing to get any answers about the closing of the poll on Talk:Wladyslaw II Jagiello. If you have some time, can you look into it? Pretty please? If not, who else closes polls? Regards, Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 11:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Pretty much any administrator can do it. Posting at WP:AN should get you some attention, no? &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 11:34, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I just went and posted there. Hopefully someone will answer this time. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 11:45, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Lazy-bones: Republicanism in Sweden
Thanks for the reminder (hrmmm...).

Right, as in all state-of-the-art research, where do I start but... Wikipedia of course! (What is the world coming to?)

Republikanism does not say much at all, but here it is:

*Socialdemokraterna och Vänsterpartiet är republikanska enligt sina partiprogram, men socialdemokraterna har inte drivit frågan sedan första halvan av 1900-talet. Vänsterpartiet motionerar varje år i riksdagen om att avskaffa monarkin, men motionen blir alltid nedröstad.

"The Swedish Social Democratic Party and the Left Party are republican according to their party programmes [can be translated either as manifestoes or platforms], but the Social Democrats have not pursued the question since the first half of the 20th century [uncited I note!]. The Left Party tables a Riksdag motion to abolish the monarchy every year, but the motion is always voted down."

*Några svenska politiker som uttalat sig för avskaffandet av monarkin är statsminister Göran Persson (s) och riksdagsledamot Birgitta Ohlsson (fp), fd. ordförande i Republikanska föreningen.

"Swedish politicians who have expressed support for the abolition of the monarchy are Prime Minister Göran Persson (Socialdemokraterna) and member of the Riksdag Birgitta Ohlsson (Liberal People's Party (Sweden)), who is a former chairman of the Republican Union (Sweden)."

===Further reading===
 * Vilhelm Moberg: Därför är jag republikan (1955)

"This is why I am a republican"

===External link=== Republikanska föreningen

Unfortunately that particular website is in Swedish only (many, if not most, larger organisations' websites are at least partly bi-lingual now).

I suppose that we could just start up a Republicanism in Sweden article, with that translation, link to it, eg here: ... and see who comes along with more info?
 * Swedish monarchy
 * Swedish Wikipedians notice board

I remember an opinion poll about three years ago which measured support for abolition among members of the Riksdag. Off top of head, it was something like:

(Social Democrats run a minority govt with Left and Green ad-hoc support)
 * Left Party 97% of their MPs
 * Social Democrats 80%
 * Green Party 95%
 * Centre Party 50%
 * Liberals 65%
 * Christian Democrats 30%
 * Moderates 20% (the main opposition party)

Love to source that, but don't know where to start to find it. --Mais oui! 06:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, starting the article with what you've translated would certainly be a possibility. I'd be interested to hear why, with as much support from various parties (almost all of the government and a substantial part of the opposition), it hasn't been done yet? You referred to some kind of informal agreement between monarchists and republicans? Thanks for the information! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 07:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Bordered Flags
I'm so sorry!!! I thought the Commons were where to-be-deleted files go..I guess I didn't read the description accurately. I apologize once again... --Palffy 14:34, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, since I don't know much about this, you mind going through my contributions and moving the other svgs I created to the commons as well? Thanks!! --Palffy 18:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem, no harm done. :) I'll try to get to it some time soon. Thanks for your contributions! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 19:59, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

template:NATO
Mind unprotecting that? I dont know if the macedonia nonsense settled but I want to make a few tweaks. To be more spesific, adding the nato flag to the template. :) -- Cat out 23:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, certainly. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 23:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Your userboxes page
It's being stretched horizontally and breaking the layout. I'm using Mozilla Firefox 1.5.0.5 with a resolution of 1024x768. --MC 23:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's because a number of boxes have been deleted, moved, whatever. I want to update it at some point, but haven't found time yet. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 12:52, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

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This Barnstar is presented to Nightstallion for all these months of beautiful friendship you've gifted me and always having a kind word when we need it the most. Thank you, my dear NS! :)  P h a e d r i e l  My dear NS, you have no idea how long I've been planning to drop by and visit you, yet when I try to take the time to do those things I really want to do, calmly and relaxing... there is always something else to do :( Geez! But well, here I am, so hope you don't mind if I sit myself here with you for a while and rest for a moment? :) Hun, I really wanted to thank you for your incredibly kind towards you-know-where and regarding my Portal. You know me from way back, so you know I start shuffling my feet, staring at the ground and blushing furiously when I get praised the way you did to me, so just - thank you, thank you, and thank you, and let's talk about you, k? :) How are you doing? So much water under the bridge has passed since we last talked, it's amazing. You've become quite a celebrity around, and I can boast I know you from a long long time ;) I noticed some time ago you removed your picture - I hope it's not because of something unplesant... Things are doing pretty fine over here, tho as you may imagine, ever since I finished the Portal I'm limitting myself to reply the flurry of beautiful messages I'm getting, answering some valid concerns you-know-where-again, and rushing to attend some urgent stress-alerts. I long for a calm moment to begin writing artciles again, and focus on the Portals again - and now my vacation is over, Ahhhhhh! :( But I think I've never felt so involved in WP as I do now, so I'm pretty sure we'll talk more in just a few days. Before I forget, I found this star embedded at your userpage on my way here - do you have some use for it? ;) Please talk good care, and ttyl! Hugs,  Phaedriel   ♥  The Wiki Soundtrack! ♪  - 12:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi! Glad to hear from you. :) I'm a celebrity? Didn't know that... ::grins:: I know that feeling of always having something else to do quite well, yes... I'm sure you'll do fine with your portal. :) I'm doing quite fine personally, though I haven't got as much time for various things as I'd like to... Hope to hear from you soon again. :) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

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Image:Flag of the Czech Republic (bordered).svg
Do we really need a bordered version of the flag? Wouldn't do as well? +Hexagon1 (t) 07:42, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No, because you can't use that with the flag-templates used in many tables, as it misaligns the flag when compared with others. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 10:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I see, didn't think of that. I'll move the image to commons though, the candidacy for a move is uncontested. Cheers! +Hexagon1 (t) 22:51, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Languages
Hi There! Can you translate my name in what language you know please, and then post it Here. I would be very grateful if you do (if you know another language apart from English and the ones on my userpage please feel free to post it on) P.S. all th translations are in alpahbetical order so when you add one please put it in alpahbetical order according to the language. Thanks!!!  Abdullah Geelah 16:58, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #3
Number 3, August 6, 2006 The Hurricane Herald This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. "Tropical Storm Lee was probably national news at the time, depending on where it went and what it did. Millions of people knew about it."

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Severe Tropical Storm Bilis was a damaging tropical storm that caused significant damage to areas of southeastern China, the Philippines and Taiwan. The fourth named storm of the 2006 Pacific typhoon season formed to the east of the Philippines on July 8 and moved towards Taiwan, strengthening as it did so. It reached its peak strength of 110 km/h (70 mph) on July 13, shortly before it made its first landfall on northern Taiwan. Bilis then made a second landfall in Fujian, China on July 14 after officials evaucated over 1 million residents from the areas in the storm's path. The remnant lasted for several days after landfall and brought heavy rain to inland China. The most significant damage occurred in Hunan, where heavy flooding and mudslides destroyed over 31,000 homes and killed 345. Despite never reaching typhoon strength, the storm was responsible for $2.5 billion in damage and at least 625 fatalities in total.

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 * In the West Pacific,Typhoon Ewiniar (Ester) formed on June 29 to the east of the Philippines, it reached Category 4 strength before making landfall in South Korea on July 10 as a tropical storm. It killed at least 36 people.
 * Typhoon Kaemi (Glenda) formed on July 2 and passed over Taiwan before dissipating over mainland China on July 26. It brought heavy rain to Taiwan and the Philippines and killed at least 32 people in China.
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SAp members map
Hello, I see that you changed the map that I uploaded recently. You reverted Macedonia from candidate/SAp to SAp only and Croatia from candidate/SAp to candidate only. I agree that there is some logic behind this, but my original idea was to show that these countries are both SAp and candidates (as opposed to BiH/S/M/A that are SAp only or Turkey/B/R that are candidates only - also I don't wanted to bring too much colors, so that B/R progress in accession process is irrelevant in the image - they are colored just as candidates). I agree, that my bi-coloring skills are not perfect and someone may better fill Croatia and Macedonia, but anyway I think that they should be colored both as SAp and canidate. Agreed? Alinor 09:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Mh. I agree in principle, but they way you coloured them was... rather confusing. Maybe use a third colour to indicate both candidate and SAp status? &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, it was not very nice (not least, because of Croatia's odd shape ;)), but I want to minimize the number of colors... Alinor 17:46, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Still, I think one more colour would do much more good than harm. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 18:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I also made the correction, but I saw your version when I go to upload :), so here is my proposal (sap color + candidate color = croatia/macedonia color...):




 * That's even better, yeah. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 16:43, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * OK, I changed it. Alinor 07:45, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipe-tan
Wikipe-tan is not a self reference in the article fan service. She's a character called Wikipe-tan that is drawn showing some types of cosplay fan service. That is a far cry from saying "this Wikipedia article is...". Just because something is named after Wikipedia does not make it a self reference issue. You're totally missing the point of WP:SELF. -- Ned Scott 09:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No, you are. Wikipe-tan is not at all notable outside Wikipedia, and as such including it/her in articles is a clear violation of WP:SELF. Take it to WP:AN/I if you're unhappy with my interpretation of the rules. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There you go, I've put it up at Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents for discussion, just in case you mistrust my opinion. shrugs &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:45, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Being notable is not the issue. She's being used as a visual example, such as a pie chart. Are most pie charts notable? Is this pirate notable at all?


 * Also, from WP:SELF: "Wikipedia can, of course, write about Wikipedia, but context is important. If you read about Shakespeare's works, you are not interested in reading about Wikipedia's policies or conventions. If, however, you read about online communities, the article may well discuss Wikipedia as an example, in a neutral tone, without specifically implying that the article in question is being read on — or is a part of — Wikipedia."


 * In addition, this is a style guideline meant to address specific concerns. This is not about ignoring the existence of Wikipedia or anything that might have been inspired by Wikipedia. Wikipe-tan doesn't mention the word Wikipedia at all, and only uses Wikipedia as a theme for her hair ties! -- Ned Scott 09:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * You're right that original illustrations are not a breach of WP:SELF, of course. Still, you're using a fan-service-mascot of Wikipedia to exemplify fan service, not a neutral image without any special meaning attached to it (as is the case in lolicon). (Note: I've also copied this conversation to the WP:AN/I thread now and would suggest continuing the conversation there.) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:56, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Probably best discussed on Talk:Fan service as opposed to ANI. Thanks -- Samir  धर्म 09:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

German unit
It appears that naming convention of currency unit is very important to you. So I'm writing this to inform you that I am going to start capitalizing them within a day. I will also notify Dove1950 and update the style guide as well. --Chochopk 09:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem with that; I'm happy with either variant. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Discussion going on Talk:German mark. --Chochopk 15:30, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2
Hi, Nightstallion. I've noticed you have a particularly persistent vandal these days, that it seems several of us have been reverting on your pages. I was wondering if you might like to see if Tawkerbot2 can look over the page for you. It looks like all you have to do is request it at User:Tawkerbot2/protection requests. I wouldn't want to list it there without your OK. If you are not interested, I apologize for bothering you in advance. --Brian G 18:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * To be frank, for now I'd prefer to have it done (semi-)manually, but I may yet come back to that offer. Thanks a lot! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 18:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Move
Hey, if you get a chance soon, would you mind making a move for me? From List of world's expositions to List of world expositions. This was discussed on the talk page. If you can, thnx, if not lemme know. :)  Jo  e  I  19:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 19:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Sweet...Who da man? You da man!  :)   Jo  e  I  20:02, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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Wikiversity logo
Maybe the Wikiversity community should quickly select a simple temporary logo and then have a serious "competition" for creating the final logo. --JWSchmidt 01:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that would probably be a good idea. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:38, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Deletion
Mcbride needs to be automatically deleted. Kyros 03:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:42, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Andean Community
Hi, I noticed your Andean Community edits. I think that Chile should still be listed under observer countries for now, they are officially not yet an associate, even though it is pretty clear that they will become one, following the official invitation and the public response by its government. Also, they should be kept under former full members, because they are not going to re-join as full members, and their early participation as such should be clear. As for Venezuela, it makes sense that it would become an associate member, but it is not really certain or clear from what can be gathered from the Andean Community (see the talk page), partly because the Venezuelan government would have to want to have that status, and Chávez might not be too interested. So, if you can't find a source for that, it would be better to add a sentence explaining the ambiguity. I would imagine that things will get clearer soon, there is a CSN meeting later this year, so one would expect some clarity. Thanks, --Gabbec 13:40, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm still fairly certain that my edits are accurate, but I'd also be okay with writing the likely actual situation (Chile associate member by choice, Venezuela associate member by being a Mercosur member) somewhere below as a note and wait until it's completely official. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 14:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Chadian-Sudanese conflict
Thanks for improving the template and article. Your work is highly appreciated. Tchadienne 16:05, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Gladly. Someone should write an article on the N'Djamena Agreement, BTW... &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 16:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Sadly there is little available information on the Agreement, but if you come across any info at all, please start a page on it. Tchadienne 17:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

State route naming conventions poll
We definitely need you, along with 3 other admins&mdash;I am going to nominate you as a judging admin, if you don't mind. ςפקι Д Иτς ☺ ☻ 17:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Aye, okay. I will be away until 20 August, but as you won't need admins until then, and you'll have others, anyway, that should not be a problem, eh? &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 18:05, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No, it should be fine. ςפקι Д Иτς ☺ ☻ 23:12, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

North-South divide in the United Kingdom
I've reverted your use of rollback on this article. As far as I am aware, rollback should be used in cases of clear vandalism, which the edits by "The professor" were not. Part of his edits actually improved the article, giving it a less prescriptivist tone ;) Just a heads up :) - FrancisTyers · 11:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it seemed to be information removal to me. Pardon my mistake. :) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 12:04, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
.. for your endorsement of my Board candidacy. I really appreciate it!--Eloquence* 03:26, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Gladly, I meant it exactly that way. :) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:46, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

List of pegged currencies
Rat! someone has already begun tagging currencies with "Category:Fixed Exchange Rate". And I have found many errors already: Danish krone, Hong Kong dollar, Iraqi dinar, Kuwaiti dinar, and Zimbabwean dollar (not by that guy tho). --Chochopk 06:47, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, all the more reason to have someone who knows what he's doing create the article instead, no? ;) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:46, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, I am back. As you can see from my recent edits, I am still struggling with the massive amount of work required to address the capitalization problem of German language unit. Now that it is ruled against capitalization, and it is a then-supporter who is cleaning up the mess, how ironic! Well, enough of me complaining. I hope I can finish this in a day or two. Are you trying to make this a "featured list"? (sigh... CFA franc split is coming up. More work!) --Chochopk 12:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't know, I've got lots of work to do myself, currently, but I'm willing to help when you really need me. :) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 13:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

You've got a Thank you card!
  Open your card! Dear Nightstallion, thank you so much for your beautiful words, your kidness and your trust in me! My Request for Adminship is finally over, and the support and appreciation that the community has gifted me will stick in my mind as long as I live. I have no way to properly express how grateful I am to you for all you've done for me, and all I can tell you is, I'll try not to disappoint you nor anyone else with my use of the buttons... and if I mess up, make sure to come here and give me a good yell! :) Seriously, tho, if you ever need my help, either for admin-related stuff or in any other way, you'll always be welcome to message me, and I promise I'll try my very best. My dear NS, in these months of friendship we've shared, you've gifted me some of the most beautiful moments a friend can give to another. This whole RfA thing is meaningless when I feel how much I value all we've gone through, and all the kindness and warmth you've selflessly given me; and as long as we remain part of this place, I know I'll enjoy my trip if a great person and friend as you is at my side. Btw, I can't help but to notice the beautiful header you've placed at this talk page... kinda reminds me of your own RfA thanking template, it's great! :) Tho I miss coming to visit you and seeing your pic... :( Anyway, for everything you are and everything you've gifted me, dear NS, thank you! :) With a great, big hug, your friend,  P h a e d r i e l ♥  tell me  
 * I can only say that I feel likewise. hugs back Regarding the header — yeah, it's the same code that I used in my RfA thanking template, though to be honest I stole it from someone else. ;) I've been thinking about reuploading my picture, but I'm not quite certain yet; we'll see. Looking forward to talking to you again soon! Hugs and kisses, &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:46, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I do!
Re: "whoever did this doesn't speak [F]rench" (your edit summary at Preposition stranding): Actually, I do speak French, but simply messed up and bolded the wrong thing. Thanks for fixing it for me. :-) Ruakh 16:27, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry for guessing incorrectly, then. :) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 18:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

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German occupation of Luxembourg in World War I
The article has been put forward as an FAC. I hope that you'll be happy to support the nomination. Thanks for your interest in the article, from the beginning. Bastin 09:00, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Meißen
Can I ask you to delete the useless history of this redirect so that the article on this city can be moved back (it currently resides at Meissen). That way any editor who wants to move the page away from Meißen, where it has been for almost all of its time, can take the suggestion up at WP:RM. Stefán Ingi 10:44, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikiversity
Wikiversity is now live (in beta mode)! They're using an OK, but not very logo-ish logo. Perhaps you would like to organise yet another logo discussion over at Meta once you're back. Maybe this one can finally be done properly! Thanks, &mdash; D a  niel  (‽) 11:58, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Unilateral page move
User:Centrx had moved the Welsh self-government page, and I had moved it back again, before he had closed the Requested move discussion! I find this totally inexplicable. Firstly, why is he moving a page when the proposal has received zero support (except for a sockpuppet IP); and secondly, why is he moving a page without first closing the discussion? The whole thing is very unsatisfactory, and the Admin is refusing top engage in dialogue, see User talk:Centrx. I request your input. Thanks. --Mais oui! 16:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've moved it back and move-locked it, but I'd kindly ask you to sort out the issues yourself, if that's okay with you? &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 18:51, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I do not understand why you have moved Welsh nationalism to Welsh self-government after Centrx verified the original title (Welsh nationalism) was more applicable to the article and more common using academic and general sources. Moreover, he has closed the discussion. I'd be grateful if you could let me know your thinking and give some advice on the best way to resolve this, given that Mais oui! will not respond to me directly. Normalmouth 14:35, 21 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd be grateful if you could unlock the page to allow it to be moved, or move it back yourself. Tks Normalmouth 07:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Euoropean flag
I just wanted to know, how did you get the European flag to always be in the bottom-left corner?--Mac Lover Talk 18:27, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Check the bottom part of the code in User:Nightstallion/linkage. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 18:55, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see it now. thanks.--Mac Lover Talk 00:03, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Andres Bonificio
The official name of Andres Bonifacio in the Philippines in English does not use diacritics. Please leave it this way.Jondel 13:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The RM gave a different result, though; you're welcome to open another one after the usual waiting period, however. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 18:54, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Princess Anne-Marie of Denmark
Several months ago there was a debate about the name of this page, and it was decided that it should move to Queen Anne-Marie of Greece (form Anne-Marie of Greece. Today User:ZIGBRYWG unilaterally moved it.  Could you please use your admin. powers to move it back.  Thanks. Noel S McFerran 13:14, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I thought that I couldn't move it because it has been edited since the move, but somehow I did it myself. Noel S McFerran 13:19, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Maps
I've recently learnt SVG, and decided to practise map making (which is why I took up SVG) by making SVG versions of your maps from List of European Union member states by political system (so far only Image:EU Member states by head of state.svg and Image:EU Member states by head of state.svg have been uploaded; stupid slow Commons!). I was wondering what you, as original creator of the maps, thought of this, and whether I should change the images in the article (it is featured after all). smurrayinch e  ster( User ), ( Talk ) 21:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)


 * GFDL isn't a very good license for images. Something wrong with using public domain? &brvbar; Reisio 23:11, 21 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I certainly don't WP:OWN the article (though I do check daily for changes to those articles which I've brought to featured status), but if you ask me, I'd much prefer to have the maps remain in PNG format; it's just *SO* much easier for me to update the maps if they're in PNG format than if they are SVG vector images. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:52, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and thanks a lot for getting my opinion before changing it. Very much appreciated. :) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 06:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Vote thing
Are these contributions   ANI post detrimental to the process? For some reason I don't think this is right. Vote stacking or something? It seems to be against Survey notification.--Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)  04:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It seems to be a violation of WP:POINT, at the very least, yes. (Apart from that, I never thought "use common names" was one of the better NC ideas to start with, but meh.) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 06:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

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Andres Bonifacio
Thank you for your dilligence. Why do you want diacritics on the name? Is this to enforce the unsubstantiated opinion of the majority of voters who were asked but didn't explain the rationale for diacritics? We don't have diacritics on his name in the Philippines. This is not official. If you have a source or link using his name, at least place then in the links at the bottom of the page. We can put diacritics on the pronounciation guide but not as part of the official name. A lot of Filipinos are upset by anything which represents colonialism. Would you want to have a vote on this again? Thank you for your time fellow administrator.--Jondel 13:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not adamant about it, but if you really insist on changing it, you need to change it *everywhere*, and not just in the title of the article... Apart from that, there was the RM which turned out to be in favour of having diacritics, though that is of course not set in stone. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 06:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Re Krais of Russia etc at CfD
Hi again Nightstallion, Just to let you know I've withdrawn my proposals re the above as, to quote my withdrawal, "I was unaware I was wandering into an area with consensus favo/uring non-English terms. Apologies!" I've sent the below to Ezhiki to request information/conformation as to the correct plural forms for "krai" and "oblast" (and "subjekt"); can you concur? :
 * Hi Ëzhiki,
 * ...I have moved Territories of Russia back to Krais of Russia. The issue of renaming krais to territories and oblasts to provinces had been previously considered and the community decided not to make the switch.
 * Thanks; as I've just noted at WP:CfD, I didn't realise I'd wandered into an area where the consensus is/was to use non-English terms. Apologies!
 * I'll provide you with links a bit later.
 * No need, but thanks for offer.
 * If you still feel the current usage is inadequate, I suggest you list all involved articles at WP:RM.
 * I would say that if non-English terms are to be used, then for the sake of consistency (and education) the correct non-English plurals should also be used. Hence I'll be requesting moves to Kraia of Russia and Oblasti of Russia respectively – unless these should be Kraya of Russia and Oblasty of Russia or something else...? (Also, subyekty or subyekti or something else...?)  Thanks, David Kernow 13:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks in advance to you too! David 14:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Update
Ëzhiki has since sent, with my reply following in italics:
 * As for using the non-native plurals, I'd have to disagree. The word "oblast", for example, while comes directly from Russian, can be pluralized as "oblasts".  Merriam-Webster (and, by others' accounts, a host of other dictionaries) actually has an entry for this word, and it lists both variants of plural (oblasts and oblasti) as acceptable in English.  Surely, "oblasts" sounds more intuitive to native speakers?  Plus, it would involve a lot of work to change all instances of "oblasts" to "oblasti", with only a marginal benefit (if any).  "Oblast", "krai", and "okrug" are all listed in the English section of my English-Russian-English Oxford dictionary (I don't have other reference handy at the moment, but I can check other dictionaries later), so they must be acceptable in English and subject to English grammar norms as well.
 * Please let me know what you think. Thanks!&mdash;Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:12, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Understood. I'm not a crusade for non-English words to use their non-English plurals; it's just my first thought when I come by such mixed instances. I'm more interested in the bigger picture, not least for the sake of this which should soon see more light of day; I've been checking through it as best I can and at present have reached Sri Lanka, though putting Russia and a couple of other more complicated situations to one side. If you have a moment and can scan, spot and amend any errors that must (still) be within, I'd be very grateful (again!). Yours, David 14:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, perfect! Thanks for keeping me up to date, and great work with your table of political divisions... Good luck with completing it! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 06:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

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Hi! Mind stopping by a few articles?
Hi! I found you through that Association of Wikipedians With The Really Long Name :P. Anyway, first - cool! You speak a little Romanian! I've been interested in Romania for some time now, including an interest in learning the language (sooo... daaaamn... pretty! Like the lovechild of Italian and Russian and Latin and goodness knows what else! So cool. *weeps for the fact that her community college does not offer Romanian*). :) Though last I checked, a lot of the articles relating to Romania, including the bit on culture, needed some considerable editing. Have you been through them recently? The wording alone needed a LOT of work, I spent a lot of time on one just cleaning up the grammar not too awfully long ago.

Anyway. Ahem. Ostensibly, I figured that with the huge number of interests you have (heh, I'm the same way, especially when it comes to music. Except I'll tolerate some techno. Just not the annoyingly redundant techno. But then, I guess that's more like dance music than actual techno then... or maybe I'm thinking of trance music. Um, anyway), and the ginormous number of edits, there's (hopefully) bound to be something you might not mind doing over at fan fiction, fan fiction terminology, Mary Sue or legal issues with fan fiction. I'm trying to improve the quality of the fan fiction article (off which fan fiction terminology and legal issues with fan fiction ended up being spun due the ginormousness of it) hopefully to where it's at GA and really hopefully to where it's up to FA quality. I'm also really wanting to get Mary Sue up to GA status or better, though it's sort of hard lately to do so. Anyway, I've been basically keeping an eye out for people to ask to come over and edit and I figured you might be one of the ones that would be really good to ask, since you've clearly got about a bajillion tons of experience editing and all to have gotten a couple of articles onto the FA list!

Even if you aren't at all interested in editing any of them, then do you suppose you could tell me any of the things I'm doing wrong with them that I could fix to make them more palatable to the general reader and whatnot? :) I really want to improve them. Their subjects are interesting if only because of what their existence (and nature) says about people and literature.

Anyway, thank you very much for your time! Runa27 21:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm currently rather busy, but from a quick glance over those articles it seems you're doing *very* good work; just keep going. ;) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 06:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

FST and Wallis and Futuna flags
Hi again Nightstallion,
 * (those are unofficial, as I've stated often enough...)

Apologies not to imagine that either of these flags' templates had a significant edit history. If what you assert is correct, I guess the flags shown at French Southern Territories and Wallis and Futuna need updating or at least further explanation. Perhaps also you might add the source/s for your information re these flags on these templates' talk pages (or, perhaps better, as s on their pages); I can imagine other folk like myself who know no better going to try to update the templates only to find them protected and be left wondering why. Thanks and best wishes, David Kernow 16:55, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I was under the impression that you had been part of the prior discussions, my mistake... Check the CIA World Factbook as a source, I've added it to the FST page, though I don't quite now how to change the infobox in the WLF page to that effect. Thanks, either way! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 17:14, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've amended French Southern Territories to show the French tricolour as the official flag and placed the administrator's flag in the Administration section; on moving to Wallis and Futuna, however, it appears the CIA World Factbook has Image:Flag of Wallis and Futuna.svg as the main flag, not the tricolour – or have I misread the page ...? Regards, David 22:41, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * You're quite right on that, however: read https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/flags/wf-flag.html, where it's clearly stated that the flag of France is the only official one and that the defaced red flag is an inofficial one... :) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've now updated Wallis and Futuna. Thanks for all the info, David 13:06, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No, no, thank you. ;) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 13:09, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

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Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story
Hey, do you know why the edit history for Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story was cleared? It looks like there was an attempt to rename the article, but it has since gone back to its original name, and lost its edit history. Any way to bring it back? -SpuriousQ 08:58, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I really don't know where the rest of the edit history might be... &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 13:10, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Gediminas
Some while ago, you closed a poll saying "The result of the debate was don't move, because there's a well-written policy which goes against this move, sorry." This action was unusual in itself - an admin taking it on themselves to interpret wiki guidelines against the will of the community. And in fact, Naming conventions (names and titles) states "Roman Emperors do not need the "of the Roman Empire", nor would Pericles be "of Athens" nor Algirdas "of Lithuania" – their names already indicate where they were from." I don't know if this has since been added; but 6:2 supported the move from the superfluous Gediminas of Lithuania to Gediminas. Tell me if you are unable or unwilling to put the move through so I can open another version of the poll. All the best, Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 15:29, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * This change was made only very recently. I'm not quite sure whether there is opposition to this or not, but if there isn't any, I'm fine with having Lithuanian rulers fall under the Roman-and-Greek rule. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:47, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

About your last edits...
Why did you revert my question on Talk:Languages of the European Union? I believe, we have freedom of speech and information on Wikipedia to raise questions on the talk pages. Please answer my question, instead of removing it. Your answer will be appriciated. Thank you, (209.7.171.66 14:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC))

Admin votes for State Route Naming Conventions poll
Your vote is requested at the State route naming conventions poll. As one of the admins, you have until 23:59 UTC on September 4, 2006 to cast your vote for one of the naming conventions for state highways. Thanks for your participation.--Willy No1lakersfan (Talk - Contribs) 02:01, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Your vote on State route naming conventions poll
Despite how the poll was set up, the ArbCom clearly encouraged consensus on the matter. There is a clear lack of consensus on the poll. --SPUI (T - C) 05:50, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Correcting info on Flag of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina
Hi. I saw you message on my talk page, and i corrected the info in above mentioned article, but neither the press release nor the original ruling state exactly what is nonconforming in the Law on Coat of Arms and Flag of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and what should be changed/corrected, only what should be changed in the law of Republika Srpska. Do you know of any interpretation of the ruling on the Net, that is from a reputable source? --Branislav Jovanovic 11:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your quick reply! I'm afraid I haven't been able to find any source at all which explains this, verifiable or not... Any help would be strongly appreciated. :) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 11:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'll answer here, hope you don't mind - i didn't find any info regarding whether the law was or wasn't changed. As far as I can tell, National Assemly of The Republic of Srpska is the one "in charge" for passing such a decision, but i can't find any info on their page either way. Sorry. --Branislav Jovanovic 13:19, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

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Europarty chart
Sorry about dropping off the face of the world there. I've been taking semi-Wikibreak of sorts--new job and nice weather and all. Anyway, the main reason why I've gotten no further with that reorganisation of the chart is that ADIE has completely ignored my requests for a member list. I'd personally be reluctant to just amend the chart with a two-member column for MER unless we could nail down ADIE as well. The Tom 23:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem, I assumed something like that had happened. Actually, I'd be fairly reluctant to include MER at all, since it's not got any kind of official status, and will not have it until 2009; however, your other suggestions sounded rather good to me... &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 23:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Poll
If you want to change your vote you can still do so but I'm switching the layout of the poll around to prepare for part 2. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)  23:36, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Tropical cyclones WikiProject Newsletter #4
Number 4, September 3, 2006 The Hurricane Herald This is the monthly newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The Hurricane Herald aims to give a summary, both of the activities of the WikiProject and global tropical cyclone activity. If you wish to change how you receive this newsletter, or no longer wish to receive it, please add your username to the appropriate section on the mailing list. The WikiProject now has its own IRC channel. "Katrina is important to BS but BS is not important to the story of Katrina."

Storm of the month Typhoon Saomai (known as Typhoon Juan to PAGASA) claimed at least 441 lives and caused over $1.5 billion in damage. After forming on August 4 near Chuuk, the storm brought heavy rain and strong winds to the Marianas, the Philippines, Taiwan and southeastern China. It started to intensify, and reached its official peak with winds of 95 knots (175 km/h, 110 mph) on August 9. The JTWC reported that it peaked as a Category 5 super typhoon the same day, a strength Chinese forecasters described as the most powerful to hit China in 50 years. Saomai maintained that strength until landfall on August 10 and dissipated inland the next day.

Other tropical cyclone activity

There were 16 other tropical cyclones during August, in the northern Atlantic and Pacific oceans.
 * In the Atlantic, Tropical Storm Chris moved to the north of Puerto Rico before dissipating on August 5 near Cuba.
 * Tropical Storm Debby formed near the Cape Verde islands on August 21 but had no effects on land.
 * Hurricane Ernesto formed in the Caribbean on August 24 and affected Haiti and Cuba, before making landfalls in Florida and South Carolina. It killed at least 5 people.
 * In the east Pacific, Tropical Storm Fabio dissipated on August 3 well away from land.
 * Tropical Storm Gilma formed on August 1 and lasted for two days before dissipating.
 * Hurricane Hector reached its peak as a Category 2 hurricane on August 18 well away from land.
 * Hurricane Ileana became the second major hurricane of the east Pacific season when it reached Category 3 intensity on August 23.
 * Hurricane John formed near to Mexico on August 28 and to the northwest near the coast. It prompted a series of warnings from Michoacán to Baja California Sur, where it made landfall in September.
 * Hurricane Kristy was briefly a hurricane on August 31, but its proximity to Hurricane John caused it to weaken soon after.
 * Hurricane Ioke became the most intense Central Pacific hurricane on record on August 26 with a minimum pressure of 920 mbar. After crossing the dateline and becoming Typhoon Ioke it passed just to the north of Wake Island at Category 4 strength.
 * Typhoon Prapiroon (Henry) reached its peak as a minimal typhoon in the South China Sea. It killed 77 people when it made landfall in China.
 * Severe Tropical Storm Maria formed on August 4 and threatened Japanese coast.
 * Severe Tropical Storm Bopha (Inday) passed over Taiwan as a tropical storm on August 9.
 * Tropical Storm Wukong passed over Kyūshū on August 18.
 * Tropical Storm Sonamu (Katring) was a minimal storm that was absorbed by Wukong on August 20.
 * Tropical Depression 13W formed near Hainan on August 23 and soon made landfall in Guandong.

Main Page content
 * Hurricane Mitch appeared on the Main Page as Today's Featured Article on August 16.
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 * Hurricane Katrina appeared on the Main Page in the On this Day column on August 29.

New articles and improvements wanted
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 * Direct hit (meteorology) and Cyclogenesis should be created.
 * 2006 storm articles should be updated in light of the Tropical Cyclone Reports.

Member of the month The August member of the month is Nilfanion. The WikiProject awards this to him for his contributions in many diverse sections of the project. Nilfanion joined the Wikiproject in April and provides track maps for the project and has produced a featured picture. He has developed the tropical cyclone Commons Category scheme in the process. In addition he has produced a number of quality articles and is active in assessment.

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Maps
Hello. I've been working on some of the Eurovision Song Contest articles. Another user and I are trying to find a map for the Eurovision Song Contest article. The problem at the moment is that the existing map needs to display more countries. After noticing your modification to the map on the Eurovision Song Contest 2007 article, I thought that you might be able to point me in the right direction for finding a map which includes all of these countries:, and is a "a large .png". If you have such a map, or if you can tell me where I could find one, I would be very grateful. Red v  Blue  17:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Try this one, maybe? &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

ICC
Hi Nightstallion,

Completely by chance I came across this page : User:Nightstallion/International Criminal Court when doing a google search. I have started a new page called State Parties of the International Criminal Court where I am hoping to track to progress towards ratification of various countries. If you have any info I could use that would be most gratefully received! AndrewRT - Talk 20:46, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Great work, especially the notes about possible future ratification! I have little to add, as I'm only noting which countries have not yet ratified the treaty and which of those might actually ratify it some time soon. Keep up the great work on that article! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Image:Flag of UNESCO.svg
Hello Nightstallion, Image:Flag of UNESCO.svg is again marked for deletion, may you have a look? --84.153.64.35 06:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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Note about the EU
Thank you for your comment. However, I did not add that note, but merely reverted someone else's removal of it. You can see the revert diff here: I am generally very meticulous in my own writing, but do not always take the time to copyedit the contributions of other users, so I did not correct that. I am not quite sure how to change this in all articles, although I think it's already part of a template. I am not quite familiar enough with the system yet, but I'd be happy if you could help me make the correction in all the applicable articles. laddiebuck 19:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_Asian_Association_for_Regional_Cooperation&diff=73129311&oldid=70884287
 * I made an edit on the SAARC page that reflects a perhaps more objective description of why the EU stands out among regional blocs. laddiebuck 19:11, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Possible need for adjudication in roadnames
Hi. This note is a heads up that you might be called to help adjudicate/decide how to apply PI to part 1 of the Highways naming poll. As you know all of us judging admins selected P1, but it turns out that there is a question of applicability. You should read the threads yourself, but my summarization is as follows. Some states are not currently in conformance with P1, and do not want to change if they don't have to. They are saying that P1 only applies in cases where there was controversy, and if the state's road project/key users are with staying put, and if they set up redirects for all the articles so that P1 style searches find the articles, that ought to be enough. (in some cases maybe they'll switch later if they want to)

There seems to be agreement that if a state is in contention about conventions, P1 will be imposed, but disagreement about what "in contention" is. In particular, NJ participants are split about whether they are or are not in contention. I gave them all (arbitrarily, unfairly, etc, etc, because I'm being a bit of a hardass to keep things moving) until about an hour from now to come to consensus voluntarily or else... the or else is that we would canvass, decide, and impose our choice. Right now my read is that it may be less contentious overall to allow modified P1, that is, allow states that don't want to switch, the option not to do so (as long as redirects exist) either "right away" or "ever"... So please get ready to participate, I think we do it as another poll perhaps. I'll seek those of you on IRC out later, but probably we need to do the actual voting on wiki.

As a reminder here's the poll for part 1: State_route_naming_conventions_poll/Part1 and sure enough it says nothing about what states it applies to (only that two states get an exemption) ++Lar: t/c 20:30, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Your input is requested here. I had hoped the participants might arrive at a consensus but they have not yet. They still could do so before we finish! Please comment or reshape the process if it's not to your liking, as well as refine my statement of the questions, and then comment as you see fit. Thanks. ++Lar: t/c 18:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

FAC
Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India is on FAC. Please give your comments on the article. This is not soliciting your vote, but considering the fact that you had voted in the previous FAC. Thanks. -- May the Force be with you! Shr e shth91 ($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 04:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
Thany you in advance for allowing me to use your user page to figure out a bit of code on my user page. I was having trouble getting my headings to look right, so I imitated a bit of yours and used that code to get the desired result, my apologies if this offends you.  Daniel_123  ► ►  15:05, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No problem, feel free to borrow whatever you want. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 17:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

"Language skills of European citizens"
At "Language skills of European citizens" Languages of the European Union there seems to be a mistake in the first table: it mentions Russian, not an official language of the EU. What is more, it mentions only 12 out of the 20 official languages of the EU, without explaining why.--Michkalas 14:13, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * That's easily explained -- the first table uses data from a pre-enlargement time, when the EU only had 15 member states; Russian is included because it's an important language, especially in a European context. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 14:36, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Russian is an importan language, no foubt. But the table says is about official languages. Either the table is about most widely spoken languages, so "official should go, or it is about official languages, so russian should go. I am asking you vecaouse from the talk page it seems that you have been looking after the page and naybe their is something I do not know.--Michkalas 14:44, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Most interesting is that the source given (this eurobarometer's page eight) doesn't even list any languages after Russian, and the other values given after Russian don't add up to the percentage of "others" in the eurobarometer... I'd say you should shorten the table so that it only includes languages up to Russian, and that "official" should be replaced with "most commonly used". &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 14:49, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * ΟΚ, I will see what I can do but I will have to read the eurobarometer report to see what is going on. This will take some time. --Michkalas 14:53, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Legion of Doom
Would you be able to move Legion of Doom (disambiguation) to Legion of Doom. Thank you Kyros 05:26, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 06:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

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UNMIT
I saw in the news that the UN Security Council has approved a new peacekeeping mission, the Integrated Mission in Timor-Leste (UNMIT), (which I guess will be the successor of Operation Astute). Here’s its Website. No troops have been assigned to it yet. I wanted to let you know since you are the “Commissar-General” of UN peacekeeping articles. Also, I’ll probably forget to add to any lists it once the troops are on the ground. :-) – Zntrip 04:19, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've updated the respective articles. ;) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Statehood of Delhi/Pondicherry
My apologies. I checked up, and you were right.Gamesmaster G-9 22:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
 * No harm done. :) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

State Route Naming admin votes for part 2 needed
This is a note to my fellow admin "judges" at State_route_naming_conventions_poll/Part2 (barring those who have already commented). The voting for this section of the poll has completed for non admin editors, and we need to endorse the discussions regarding what forms the individual states will take. Technically the deadline for this voting has passed (23:59 September 14 UTC), but since I didn't see any notifications go out I assume they will provide us with some latitude. Cheers. Syrthiss 02:56, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Could you please provide your input? It would be helpful so that we can move on to Part 3. Thanks, Rschen7754 (talk - contribs)  01:41, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I've just checked it, and there appears to be complete unanimity on all of the cases, with which I, too, agree. Is that good enough or do I have to put "endorse" in every of the fourty sections? ;) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 13:45, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Sidebar redesign final vote!
It's that special, special time! No, grandma's not coming over. No, not time to clean out the fridge. It's sidebar redesign voting time! Yes, the community has narrowed it down to 3 different options, and a vote for the same old original sidebar is a choice one could vote for as well. Voting for multiple options is allowed, and discussion on the whole shebang is right there on the vote page itself.

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username
Heh, thanks! :) .* 07:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:NCP
Hello. I know I haven't asked you anything for a while, but I see you as an expert on naming, so here I am, back again. For names with ordinals (who aren't regents) am I correct that there should not be a comma before the ordinal? Specifically, am I correct that an article should be located at A. J. Foyt IV rather than at A. J. Foyt, IV? Also, if I am correct, could you please do the move for me, since both are occupied and edited? (I can clean up any double redirects.) If I am wrong, I'm sorry to have bothered you. Thanks in advance --After Midnight 0001 20:38, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you're right, but you'll have to remind me to do it some time later, I'm going to bed now. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 22:20, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I see you didn't even need the reminder. Thanks for the move. --After Midnight 0001 14:28, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Gladly. :) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 18:54, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Netherlands Antilles updates
Hey, I'm unsure if you are still keeping up with the demise of the Neth. Antilles, but here is some new stuff. Bonaire (and I guess Saba and Statia/Sint Eustatius) are still confused on what it wants with the new 'Kingdom Islands' status. Folks in Bonaire are suggesting anything from a province, a city, to a 'public body'. UPR status is also mentioned. See. There two short articles on how Curacao and Sint Maarten are preparing for status aparte. See this article as Curacao signs a tax treaty with Barbados and this article on how Sint Maarten hopes to gain full control of the cops when status aparte takes effect. Hope this is interesting. - Thanks, Hoshie 14:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Antarctican dollar AfD
Sorry to spam if you are already aware. But I had to resort to personal message. Someone is trying to delete Antarctican dollar, I tried really hard to make a point at Articles for deletion/Antarctican dollar. Now I need people to support the "keep" side. Thanks. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 05:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Bjelkemander
Calling it a gerrymander is inaccurate. Joh instituted a system of electoral malapportionment directly favouring rural areas through a 2:1 ratio (which indirectly benefited his party). What he was doing was malapportionment. It was a common Australian trait of the time to call electoral systems that deviated from 'one vote one value' -manders (such as the Playmander) simply because it sounded good. michael talk 12:16, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, fair enough, I see your reasoning. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 12:19, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:NC(GN)
I apologize for spamming your talk page, but since you had contributed in the past to the WP:NC(GN) proposal, which is currently ready for a wider consultation, I thought you might want to give it another look now and, hopefully, suggest some final improvements. Thanks. --Lysytalk 22:57, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

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Hey Nightstallion,
I saw your post in WP:AN and you seem to have misunderstood the Greek position in the issue of RoM/FYROM. It is definitely not "FYROM". The Greek position is that the country should use some disambiguating element in its title to differentiate itself from the wider region. Proposals by Greece on the issue, among others, were "Slavomacedonia", "New Macedonia", "Vardar Macedonia", "Macedonoslavia" etc. FYROM is not the Greek POV. It is a temporary stop-gap appellation, reached by diplomatic compromise between both the two states. Greece is keeping her part of the deal, and calls the country FYROM for now, but that must not be seen as the 'Greek POV'.

If you are not tired, I would appreciate if we continued this discussion where we started it (here), so that we clear out this once and for all. I won't be happy with 'unilateral' solutions, as I think they are very temporary. •N i k o S il v e r• 12:20, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Fair enough on both accounts, though I still do not see where the problems lies with "Macedonia" (compare Luxembourg, Azerbaijan, and many other examples of dual-use names)... &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 12:26, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * The usual practice is using a disambiguating element, like York->New York etc, which I posted in that talk (100s of examples available). Fmore, in this case, there are other problems too:
 * Irredentist agenda based on the United Macedonia concept.
 * Unofficial indirect endorsement of this agenda in schoolbooks and govt publications (see that claim sourced in Macedonia (terminology)
 * Historical and cultural significance of the name for the Greeks (start of what was known as the Hellenic Empire)
 * However, this discussion is off-topic as we are not diplomats to prescribe. We just describe. So the accurate description for the template is FYROM, which is the compromise name, which is used by the otherwise self-id-ing RoM for EU purposes, and which EU itself uses for the country. As it appears, EU will never use RoM for the country, not even in the future, as Greece will definitely veto (see here). •N i k o S il v e r•  12:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I still stand by the current compromise, which includes the self-identifying, most common and in-use-on-Wikipedia name (RoM) as well as the name which the European Union uses (FYROM). That's as far as my ability to compromise goes. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 12:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I was not asking for more, I just cannot accept less. Out of curiosity: Consider I stopped pushing, do you still think that the compromise is better than RoM alone? •N i k o S il v e r•  12:59, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Most likely yes. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 13:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :-) •N i k o S il v e r•  13:04, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Gladly, and let's hope that MKD and GRC finally resolve this ridiculous dispute some time soon. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 13:05, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

European Council
Hey Night,

Thanks for sticking with that. I tired of following the week by week over there in the Czech Republic, and I totally missed that Klaus finally got him in. One thing, though--ODS has never been a part of the EPP proper (EPP-ED, yes, but never the party). As MER theoretically exists as of this moment as a party on paper but not as a group, I think we should file him as that. The Tom 14:24, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, but are you absolutely positively certain that MER is an official party? Also, are you still planning to update the European party table? ;) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Maraba Coffee
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Ico soundtrack listing
Please don't revert the edits standardizing the font for track list. Imitating the disc cover's font is pointless and comsetic at best. If you disagree please discuss it here or in the article's talk page before reverting. Tani unit 23:37, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I saw no harm in accurately representing that the song names use the Japanese full-width letters, but if you disagree, fair enough... &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't mind the font from the cd jacket in the list, but it seems out of place, especially considering that every other soundtrack listing has standard font. Although if other editors feel that ico's font is an improvement and there is nothing in the rules saying otherwise we could change it back. Tani unit 00:16, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Does every other track listing of Japanese soundtracks and CDs use normal Latin letters and not full-width ones? &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 07:49, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Quick question...
The # lets you make numbered lists on Wikipedia. Is there a way to make numbered lists which use, say, Roman numerals? --HappyCamper 03:32, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Not that I know of, but if you find out a way, please let me know too, okay? &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Talk page abuse
Please have a look at this: I believe that this is a crystal clear abuse of WP:TPG, WP:SPAM and, indirectly WP:NPA. The fact that it is being made by a blatant and exposed sockpuppet just makes the situation even worse. It is my belief that that sockpuppet account should have been banned after exposure, under Wikipedia policies. Why wasn't it?
 * Talk:Orkney_Islands

Please look at the contributions of. has used that account to post the identical spam at Talk:Shetland Islands and Category talk:Orcadian Wikipedians.

I raised this at Talk page abuse|WP:ANI#Talk_page_abuse, but was just subjected to totally unfounded snidey remarks. I demand that Administrators take a far more adult, and informed, approach to this situation. Please look into this case, because I feel that this idiot is making a fool out of the whole project. --Mais oui! 02:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd like to help, but my available free time is currently still rather limited; could you please another admin you trust in this case? Sorry I can't help right now! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 05:43, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I only just noticed!
Hi again Nightstallion,
 * Great work, David.

Thanks! Someday soon, I hope, all will be ready for it to plug into the encyclopedia; I'm currently "harmoniz/sing" the many links it makes... Best wishes, David Kernow (talk) 07:40, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You might also want to look for sources on the native names for those which you couldn't find up to now, there's got to be some on-line source on that somewhere. ;) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 07:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes; there's still much to do (!) but, once it's linked into the encyclopedia, I hope in time folk will make these kinds of improvements if/when they come by it. (Also providing singular forms here.) Yours, David (talk) 09:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * More great work from you. ;) &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 09:09, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Square Corners
It should make sense in most cultures. Just say the word and I'll do my best to fill in the blanks. I wouldn't want to get too explicit on your page without your OK. --After Midnight 0001 02:50, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I've got no problems at all with talking about swearwords or sexual behaviour, so yes, I would very much appreciate it if you could explain it to me; I'm usually one who connects various ambiguities to sexual topics rather quickly ), so I'm rather surprised that I really have no clue what the relation between square corners and female masturbation is... Thanks! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 08:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * It's really not that bad. She was just saying that she was so horny that she was rubbing her body over everything in the house that had a point, using them to try to get off, so much so that they had all been worn down; thus none left. --After Midnight 0001 10:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Aye, not really bad at all. ::shrugs:: Thanks! &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 10:21, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

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Wikitionary logo
Hallo. I think that logo #A 7 and #C 1-4 shouldn't be considered because they are too similar to Walt Disney Pictures logo. It seems that letter "W" is used from some Walt Disney font or taken from a picture of that logo. It's only little rotated to the left and a small part of the right side is cutted. Regards Lošmi 12:37, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

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"Further languages of the European Union"
Please comment, if possible, on some suggestions I made at Talk:Languages_of_the_European_Union. --Michkalas 21:47, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

End of the road poll
Please see here for the final stage of the state road name poll. --CBD 17:04, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

colour template
hi Nightstallion, how are you?

I noticed that for the tables of the Austrian parties Template:Austrian legislative election, 2006, logos are unfortunately not allowed anymore. We should at least have the colours in in that case, like Template:United Kingdom parliamentary election, 2005 for example, however I still don't understand how to do it, could you help out or do you know anyone? thanks alot. Gryffindor 22:04, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I've hard-coded the colours into the template; using the Template:Party name with colour template didn't work out too well in this case. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 22:13, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for opinion re merge of articles on Thailand coup
Thank you for your offering your opinion on the merger of articles regarding the Thai coup. Patiwat 00:20, 1 October 2006 (UTC)