User talk:Northamerica1000/Archive 71

DYK for Prawn soup
&mdash; Coffee //  have a ☕️ //  beans  // 00:02, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Prawn Soup

 * Hi : Well, maybe I'm psychic, whereby I envisioned you eating the soup in the future right before the time I expanded the article, which could then be why I expanded the article. Right? North America1000 20:30, 17 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Chupe de Camarones.jpg Ooh, sounds yummy! "P.S." Nice work on another food article.  To supplement your WikiProject Peru award, I hereby bestow upon you membership in the Honorary Order of the Chupe de Camarones. — Mudwater (Talk) 22:49, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'm a bit surprised that I've received such positive input regarding the article. I found it when surfing around, and thought, "I can expand this...". North America1000 23:34, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Here's my latest creation: List of peanut dishes. Add to it, if you'd like! North America1000 23:35, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Janet Morton
I have rescinded the nom and User:Mduvekot has done some clean-up which has removed my worries. Would you mind doing an early close? Thanks in advance! Best, Nicnote  •  ask me a question  •  contributions  00:06, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * N.b. Another user closed the discussion. North America1000 21:29, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yup, saved us some time I guess. Have a nice vacation! Don't stay too far away from AfD, we need you! Best, Nicnote  •  ask me a question  •  contributions  20:01, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. I'm actually on a semi-wikibreak, around more lately, but sometimes not. North America1000 20:03, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

AfD help
Hi there. Don't know what happened, but when I hit send query regarding this article, Foreign Coins In Coin Roll Hunting, it wasn't added to the log properly. I went to the AfD discussion (Articles for deletion/Foreign Coins In Coin Roll Hunting), and hopefully fixed that (which was correct either), but can't correct the log. Thanks.  Onel 5969  TT me 22:31, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The discussion is presently showing on the Articles for deletion/Log/2017 April 23 page. I'm guessing that it wasn't appearing per being a new entry, whereby the server's cache needed to be purged for it to be viewable (see WP:PURGE). North America1000 22:35, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi. Thanks. I must've fixed it but didn't see it because of not purging the cache. Thanks for checking.  Onel 5969  TT me 22:44, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

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Yume Miyamoto
Hey there. It seems that the article was deleted in an AFD discussion last year due to a lack of significant roles and a lack of coverage in reliable sources. However, since then, she has been cast as the character Rumia (a main character) in the anime Akashic Records of Bastard Magic Instructor. With this, I now assume that she passes WP:ENTERTAINER. Would it be advisable for you to restore the article, or should I take it to Deletion Review first? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:49, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

"People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards. Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included; conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included."
 * Hi : I hesitate to restore the article because the subject does not appear be notable per Wikipedia's notability standards. Note that meeting WP:ENTERTAINER is not a guarantee of notability. In the lead of the Additional criteria section there, it states:


 * The only source in the (now deleted) article was this one from Anime News Network in the External links section, and source searches are only providing a few passing mentions (see below).


 * Can you provide any sources demonstrating that the subject meets WP:BASIC? North America1000 04:37, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, I just checked, and a search using her name in Japanese (宮本侑芽) failed to find significant coverage in Japanese either. I guess you're right, it migt be a little premature to recreate the article yet. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:37, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Upload for fair use
Northamerica1000, can upload the logo from logos.wikia.com? -- cyɾʋs ɴɵtɵɜat bʉɭagɑ!!! ( Talk  |  Contributions ) 09:07, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm going to pass on offering advice regarding logos.wikia.com, because I'm not very familiar with it and do not use it. I will mention that their Licensing page states that content on the site "is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License 3.0 (Unported) (CC-BY-SA)." However, it is possible that content there may not be compatible relative to Wikipedia's guidelines regarding Non-free content and WP:LOGOS on Wikipedia's website. North America1000 09:17, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Henry Ludington
Henry is the father of Lewis Ludington. I just did a major expansion and will be nominating tomorrow for DYK. Can you look over for possible tweaks. The hook will have something to do with his involvement with the first secret service. See quotes in the references. Thanks for any help you can provide.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:41, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello : Nice work expanding the article. I have performed a few minor layout edits, but that's about it. North America1000 09:11, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for looking it over and doing tweaks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:50, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of List of kosher restaurants for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of kosher restaurants is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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DYK for La Loma Foods
Mifter (talk) 01:58, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Kenchin jiru
Hello! Your submission of Kenchin jiru at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:17, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Recipes
Hi Northamerica1000,

Are recipes considered appropriate references when it comes to food and cuisines on Wikipedia? If so, what are some good books and websites that can be used here? If not, what are some alternative sources that editors around here generally use? Thanks in advance. CubeSats 4U  07:59, 30 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Hello : I consider recipes published by reliable sources usable for verification in instances when the source has little information about the dish itself other than a list of ingredients and cooking instructions. However, oftentimes recipes in reliable sources will also provide an overview of a dish and information about a dish's cultural relevance, a dish's history, etc., which can be used to establish topic notability.


 * Regarding what constitutes reliable sources for Wikipedia's purposes, check out Identifying reliable sources. Also, the Friendly search suggestions template I posted below may be of assistance in locating sources.


 * A decent page regarding reliable sources for cuisine-related topics is WikiProject Food and Drink's Sources page. Be sure to check this out. It's not a conclusive list, but it provides some nice examples. North America1000 09:13, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Chidera Okolie for deletion
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DYK for Shooter's sandwich
Mifter (talk) 05:48, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Declined proposed deletion of Sand Glass
Is there anything at Sand Glass that you think is worth salvaging? The photos are terrible and there are no sources, so I'm not quite sure what a merge would look like. If there's something you think has merit, let me know and maybe we can draft a sentence or two for Sand. Cheers! —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄  00:38, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Now Bunytou, creator of Sand Glass, has awakened from a 5-year slumber and . I'm not sure what the most appropriate thing to do here would be, but I trust you know the protocol! (Tangentially related, I wonder if Office toy may be a good home for any references to the object described at Sand Glass. Thoughts?) —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄  16:01, 15 May 2017 (UTC)


 * (ec) Hi : Upon consideration, I have merged the article to Sand art and play § Other sand games. The images don't look so bad in an enlarged state as they exist there. North America1000 16:07, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * As I was typing the above and performing the merge, you left the new message herein. Let's just see what happens. If the user reverts the merge, then it can be discussed on the article talk page. North America1000 16:08, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I still think those photos are terrible (as they are blurry and don't capture the sand while in motion through the fluid), but I'm fine with this approach for now. Having Sand Glass gone is a big step in the right direction, so thank you! —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄  16:26, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd call the images "below average", rather than "terrible", but it's all so subjective. North America1000 16:29, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Anchovy paste
Hi, I just saw your new dyk nom. In Australia, the very well-known brand is Peck's Anchovette. This link has a little history - seems the brand is now owned by General Mills. Thanks for the article. JennyOz (talk) 09:21, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi I was away for a bit. Thanks for the information, which has been added to the article (diff). North America1000 07:24, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

 * Hi Thanks. My method was to add the term "food waste" in the upper-right search box that appears on most Wikipedia pages, after which time, an option appears on a scroll-down screen to choose articles containing the terms. This revealed relevant articles. North America1000 14:43, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Moving DYK noms to approved page
Northamerica1000, we have a bot that takes care of the moving of newly approved nominations to the Approved page, so there's no need to manually move the transcluded templates. It runs every couple of hours. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:47, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Yep, I noticed that on the DYK approved nominations Revision history page after I manually performed the transclusion move. So, no need to manually perform moves! Nice. North America1000 00:49, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Cherry pie
Hi, I just came across this stubby food article and thought you'd like to have a go at it. Best, Yoninah (talk) 22:50, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I just made a minor improvement, by removing excessive white space in the article (diff). I may work on this later, or maybe not, but either way, thanks for the tip. North America1000 22:52, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Re: Gong Show
Hi, thanks for the heads up! I had heard about the revival but didn't know exactly when it was going to be airing. It will be hard to duplicate the bizarre brilliance of the original show, but at least the choice of comedy "legend" Tommy Maitland as host is a sign that they're willing to try something a little different. Cheers!  gongshow  talk  15:04, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * You bet. I saw a promo on TV for the upcoming show, and then I thought about you, since I saw you around recently at AfD. North America1000 15:07, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I appreciate it - fingers crossed for fun times!  gongshow  talk  15:13, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Category:North Korean cuisine
Hi, Northamerica1000! I removed Category:North Korean cuisine from ramyeon and tteok-bokki as tteok-bokki doesn't exist in North Korea and instant noodles in North Korea aren't called "ramyeon". I'd also appreciate if you could explain why the category was added to miyeok-guk‎, japchae‎, and many other dishes that exist in both Koreas. 🍲 --Brett (talk) 03:56, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Tteok-bokki exists in North Korea under the name "Ddeokbokki". See List of North Korean dishes for the sources that back up the category additions. No worries about the removal of Ramyeon, which I also recently removed from the article. North America1000 04:18, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt reply! The list cites this article, according to which tteok-bokki does seem to be a dish sold for foreign tourist in North Korea. But this NK News article and this Guardian article say that tteok-bokki is unheard of to North Korean residents. I think it would be good to build criteria for the NK-cuisine / SK-cuisine categories and write it somewhere. I personally preferred using the categories with the dishes that exist or eaten exclusively/dominantly in NK/SK but not in the other Korea, but that's just my preference and you might not agree. --Brett (talk) 04:33, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * (ec) Update: Upon consideration, I have removed the Ddeokbokki entry from the list article. While it exists in North Korea per a different source I found, it does not appear to be a common food there (per source searches). North America1000 04:35, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Regarding categorization, I feel that common dishes and foods in North Korea should be included in the North Korean cuisine category, regardless of whether or not they are common in South Korea. Also, the North Korean cuisine category was rather barren until I began populating it. North America1000 04:38, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

List of hams
Nice!!!!!!! A very, very tasty new article! A great asset! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:42, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey : Thanks. In the process of performing research for the list article, I created the new Rugao ham article. I also added some content to the Chinese ham articles, listed below. Perhaps you have access to sources that can improve these articles. North America1000 05:48, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Chinese hams
 * Anfu ham
 * Jinhua ham
 * Xuanwei ham


 * Sources? Hard to get here in China. Chinese sources are lousy. Western sources are tough to get due to Google being blocked. Photos, maybe. I think we discussed this ages ago, but there is a hanging meat shop downtown that I could visit and maybe get permission to take a few shots. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:55, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Just figured I'd ask. Hey, more images are always a boon. Also, there's other notable hams out there that don't have articles yet. Takes time, though. North America1000 06:03, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks. It's a start. North America1000 04:29, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Category:North Korean cuisine
User talk:Northamerica1000/Archive 71

For me, it seems natural that most of the traditional (pre-Korean war) Korean dishes are common in both North and South Korea. And most dishes in Category:Korean cuisine are traditional dishes, with some exceptions, such as: Modern South Korean inventions, such as spicy tteok-bokki (first made in the 50s in SK); Regional dishes, such as sungeo-guk (Pyongyang region in NK) and jaecheop-guk (Yeongnam and Honam regions in SK). Other dishes in the Korean cuisine category, in my opinion, is better without NK/SK cuisine categories because tagging all of them with both NK/SK cuisine categories will be a hassle. I'd like to hear your thoughts. --Brett (talk) 03:53, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm not really too worried about it, and if you don't want to add categories to articles, you don't have to. As I stated previously, regarding categorization, I feel that common dishes and foods in North Korea should be included in the North Korean cuisine category, regardless of whether or not they are common in South Korea. Ultimately, including such foods in the North Korean cuisine category makes the encyclopedia more accurate and comprehensive, whereas lumping everything together under the one category of Korean cuisine can be ambiguous. For example, some dishes specifically originated in North Korea, and were then brought to South Korea by families who moved there after the Korean War. North America1000 06:52, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

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Knafeh
I noticed you deleted a photo on the Knafeh article because "it is not a picture of the food." Actually, if you look closer, you will see that it is: It shows the "longest knafeh in the world" prepared in Nablus, which is mentioned in the text. Maybe the caption should be more detailed to reflect that.--Geewhiz (talk) 09:05, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Thanks for pointing this out. I have restored the image in the article, and added a more precise description in the image caption (diff). Thanks again, North America1000 10:35, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Kenchin jiru
Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 18 May 2017 (UTC) Not a foodstuff I was previously aware of. Interesting article; thank you for that! Yunshui <sup style="font-size:90%">雲 <sub style="font-size:90%">水 13:38, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Open ended Prods
How would you have better worded it? Unless you think that article is notable I fail to see how how declining the prod was helpful. I have not see the film myself. Thank you for you time, Endercase (talk) 16:23, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Which article are you referring to? North America1000 22:44, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't even recall, it really didn't leave an impression on me (I was just hitting the random article button and fixing errors when I found them). I nom prod "per tags" and you declined saying "per tags" was too open ended... even though often prods have no reasoning given. Seemed more procedural removal than anything. I can find the article tomorrow if you would like. It had no real sources and wasn't notable (per tags). Mostly this is question about how you think prods should be done not really about that particular article. Endercase (talk) 07:43, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I'd have to know which article you're referring to, otherwise I'd be making guesses. North America1000 00:20, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Well if you would wish to discuss particulars and not the generality of how you think prods should be done then the the article was Call Me (film) --Endercase (talk) 20:34, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Per the Proposed deletion policy page at WP:PRODNOM, prods should include some rationale demonstrating why an article should be uncontroversially deleted, The two-word rationale "per tags" does not really provide much rationale. Regarding valid rationales for deletion, see WP:DEL-REASON for examples. There is a notability template atop the article, which is worded, "The topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for films" (italic emphasis mine), but this tag does not automatically confer absolute non-notability, and your rationale for deletion did not include any other variables, such as whether or not you performed source searches about the topic to qualify a lack of notability. Also, you state above, "It had no real sources and wasn't notable (per tags)", but per WP:NEXIST, topic notability is not based upon the state of sourcing in articles. Also, the other maintenance templates atop the article are not aligned as qualifiers for deletion; an article relying upon a single source and needing more sources is not a valid rationale for deletion, yet your rationale was plural, "per tags." At any rate, feel free to nominate the article at AfD if you'd like. North America1000 03:26, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

The Longest Drink in Town
I thought about prodding it, but I figured I'd ping you first :) --<sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 10:43, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi : Thanks for the notice. I added a couple of sources and a merge template to the article. It doesn't appear to have received enough coverage for a separate article, but some of the content would help to make the Milkshake article a bit more comprehensive. North America1000 11:48, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

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Recent changes
 * You can see new files on Special:NewFiles. You can now pick which dates you want to see files from.
 * When you read Wikipedia on a mobile device the first paragraph now comes before the infobox.
 * You can now remove navigation elements from your results when you search. This could for example be part of an infobox that is only there to help you find the previous or next article.
 * New users on Wikivoyages and Wikipedias (except French, English and German) now get a notification when a page they created is connected to Wikidata. Other wikis will get it 13 June.

Problems
 * The MediaWiki version from two weeks ago was rolled back. It was fixed late last week. Changes that were planned to go out last week did not happen.

Changes this week
 * Wikimedia wikis can show fewer links to articles in other languages. This is to make it easier to find the languages likely to be useful to the reader or editor. Everyone can still click to see the full list. Logged-in users who use the compact language links will see languages they have in their Babel box on their user page in the first, shorter list. You can turn the compact language list off or on in your preferences.
 * You can choose what dates to look at when you look at a user's contributions.
 * When you click on your watchlist in the mobile view you get a list of all pages in the watchlist instead of the latest changes to them. Logged-in users with at least ten edits will now get the latest changes instead.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 June. It will be on all wikis from 8 June (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg String comparisons in Scribunto modules are now always done case-insensitively by byte order. Before they were sometimes in a case-sensitive US-English collation order. This could break some modules.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 June at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The 2006 wikitext editor will be removed the week of 27 June. This is the old toolbar with small square blue buttons. You can see a picture of it. 0.03% of active Wikimedia editors use this old tool. They will not see a toolbar at all.
 * Wikimedia wikis use OCG to create PDFs. The OCG code has a lot of problems and will stop working. It has to be replaced. An alternative is Electron. You can tell the developers what you need the PDF service to be able to do. Electron already works on German Wikipedia. It will be on English Wikipedia later this week so you can test it there too.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Architecture Committee will change and get a new name. You can read and comment on the draft that describes the new committee.

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