User talk:Tim riley/Archive24

2018

Aberfan
Hi Tim, and a very warm happy new year to you. A few months ago you were kind enough to comment on the PR for the Aberfan disaster. After a slight delay to allow some of the images to become PD, the article is now at FAC. Any further comments would be most welcome. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 13:26, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll certainly look in over the next few days. New Year greetings to you too, of course.  Tim riley  talk    16:17, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Happy new year
and congrats on the Sullivan promotion. Would you have time to weigh in at the peer review of James K. Polk? Not as obscure as Fillmore ...--Wehwalt (talk) 21:43, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Certainly! I'll put it at the top of my to-do-list along with SchroCat's chastening article, immediately above. Seasonal greetings most warmly reciprocated, natch.  Tim riley  talk    16:17, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Anbe Sivam/archive1
Bonjour, Tim riley. I have nominated my first solo FAC. Do let me know if you wish to leave comments at the FAC by pinging me. Thanks. — Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 12:57, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Laurence Olivier
Hi Tim. I saw this and I wanted to respond personally. In a way I feel the same about you; you got it wrong here, and you got it wrong spectacularly here. Anybody can get it wrong once in a while, but as adults we should be able to reflect on mistakes and learn from them. I respect the good work you do as a copyeditor, but to allow an article to run as TFA calling a feminist icon by her first name throughout was shameful; it reflects badly on our project which I still love in spite of everything, and it should have been picked up earlier. I know you thought "sexist claptrap" a bit strong but I'm afraid I stand by it. This was an awful solecism and I invite you to acknowledge that as I look forward to helping you and the rest of the FAC community to do a better job in the future. I don't quite believe in this yet, but it is a thing to think about. Best regards, --John (talk) 00:57, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Email

 * Duly received. and will be acted on in the next day or two. Another tragedy! But I look forward to wading in nonetheless.  Tim riley  talk    19:22, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Happy Pongal, Makar Sankranti, Lohri and Bihu to you!
May all your endeavours have a fruitful beginning and prosperous ending! — Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 10:03, 14 January 2018 (UTC)


 * What a very kind thought. Thank you!  Tim riley  talk    10:07, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Happy to hear that, Tim. Have you ever experienced these festivals, sir, or anyone you know took part in them? Just asking out of curiosity.  —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 10:09, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Completely new to me, but I'm not a religious person. Good luck to those who are, though.  Tim riley  talk    10:19, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Its a celebration of the harvest season in our country. A very colourful and entertaining set of festivals, and also a very big part of Indian and Tamil culture. Anyone can celebrate it.  —  Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 10:23, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Can you help?
Tim, if you visit my talk page you will see that someone has queried a quotation in the article Lieutenant Kijé, saying that it does not appear in the cited source. You may just recognise the quote as something you gave me, probably during email correspondence since at that time (August 2016) I recall you had temporarily severed your links with WP – at any rate, I can't find any reference to the matter in the Wikipedia pages. Unfortunately, my email correspondence of August 2016 was lost when I destroyed my laptop last summer. Could you possibly see if you can dig out from your own records any reference to this quote? I'd be most grateful. Brianboulton (talk) 16:35, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * (Later|) Panic over! Lingzhi has resolved the problem. Sorry to have bothered you. Brianboulton (talk) 16:55, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Tim Riley remains, in any case, Da Man.  >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 17:09, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I say! It's all go. Glad all has been resolved.  Tim riley  talk    19:16, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Just to say...
...as a very occasional editor these days, I'm delighted to see you back in action. All very best, Alfietucker (talk) 22:51, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * How very pleasing to hear from you, Alfie! I have missed you sorely, and still do. I managed RVW on my own, but I'm blest if I'm tackling Richard Strauss without you. I hope all is right as right can be with you.  Tim riley  talk    22:55, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, I must have a look at your handiwork! Alas, I feel I can't commit to working on any full-scale article upgrades for now (too much writing to do IRL), though I hope maybe to be useful in small ways here and there - perhaps the odd peer review process? Meanwhile all power to your elbow, and hope to see more of you. Alfietucker (talk) 23:11, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Loss of MV Darlwyne/archive1
No sig. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 07:19, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

FAC reviewing barnstar

 * Eight? Good Lord, did I? It didn't seem like it. But your kind gong will spur me to do more. Thank you so much!   Tim riley  talk    21:53, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Peers sought for review
(Rather appropriate as I'm just back from the first night of ENO's Iolanthe). Any peers left standing are most cordially invited to look in at Osbert Lancaster, and the peer review I've opened with a view to getting the article to FAC. All contributions gratefully received.  Tim riley  talk    01:12, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

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The Cloisters
Tim, I see you have your hands full, but if you get a chance, I would greatly appreciate and value your feedback at this PR. Ceoil (talk) 10:47, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll be there. I'm putting the last touches to the PR tweaks suggested by you and SchroCat for Sir Osbert and then I'll clock in at the Cloisters.  Tim riley  talk    10:50, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Great. Sir Osbert is looking mighty fine. Ceoil (talk) 11:09, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

Osbert Lancaster featured article candidate
If anyone who sees this is interested, [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Osbert Lancaster/archive1|

Sir Osbert's FAC]] is now open and visitors will be most welcome.  Tim riley  talk    09:16, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Since I see you which ever way I turn...! Good Tim, would be willing and / or able to cast your gimlet eye over John de Mowbray, 3rd Duke of Norfolk, and throw in what criticism you see feet? Any input you could give would be much apreciated. I understand you must be busy with young Osbert: I understand if you cannot. I hope you are very well! Cheers,  >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 11:14, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

British Library
Hi Tim. Do you know that you can now copy to a USB at the BL free of charge? Dudley Miles (talk) 20:30, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I most certainly didn't, and I am prodigiously in your debt for telling me. I spent ages only the other day laboriously transcribing something from an old Daily Express for an American colleague. This comes under the heading of tidings of great joy. Bless you!  Tim riley  talk    20:48, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Afterthought: as I live 20 minutes' stroll from the BL and pop in there most weeks I am entirely at your service for any ad hoc rummaging you may want doing. I do it now and again for several colleagues. Pray bear it in mind.  Tim riley  talk    20:52, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Further to this, you know—if you possess such a devil's device!—you can also use your smart phone to take pictures of things... i.e. pages of things. I saw someone in their the other day literally photographing their way through a small tome. The reason so many people noticed of course was that the b*gger hadn't turned their tones off, and the click*click was driving the table potty. Yes, it's clearly in breach of copyright law, but the only paramenter seems to be the memory on one's phone and the size of the battery! Yo, Tim, thanks for everything.  >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 20:59, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes I knew, and have done so only last week, with very good results. But though one can photograph books one isn't allowed to photograph anything on screen, which is a bit of a pain.  Tim riley  talk    21:11, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah—news reels and the like?  >SerialNumber  54129 ...speculates 21:13, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Was the Daily Express on screen? If so, the same restrictions may apply. In the copy centre you can copy from paper to a USB or send the results to your email address. I use my London Library account or EBSCO - or public library card - for online access. Are there online sources which can be accessed from BL computers and not elsewhere? Dudley Miles (talk) 22:41, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * PS do you know when you will next be at the BL? Dudley Miles (talk) 22:52, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Today, as it happens. Can I do anything for you?  Tim riley  talk    08:02, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. I was in there yesterday researching St Edith, who was appointed abbess of Nunnaminster but turned it down, according to her hagiographer Goscelin. One source I checked says that in the view of Susan Ridyard in Royal Saints of Anglo-Saxon England at pp. 41-42 Goscelin invented the whole thing. I would like a copy of the pages to check what she said but I was past the deadline for ordering further books that day. Many thanks if you can help. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:07, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Ordered for today. I'll toddle down after lunch and report back.  Tim riley  talk    11:08, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Many thanks Tim. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:04, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Done. If you send me an email via the "Email this user" link on the left-hand side of my user page, I can reply, attaching the images of the two pages.  Tim riley  talk    13:21, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
 * That was very quick. Email sent. Dudley Miles (talk) 14:02, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Respectfully, regarding hubcaps
I am unfortunately aware that certain users originate from that county associated with Lancaster, which is located on the wrong side of the (currently rather snowy) Pennines. But calling someone a Lancastrian is a far greater insult than calling someone a Londoner, so I thought it more professional to describe said user by their place of residence. I know not everyone has the privilege of coming from God's Own County. (Hope you're well!) Sarastro (talk) 16:56, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for making me laugh (a lot). On a cold, windy, snowy day like this a good laugh, even if I have to be grateful to a Yorkshireman for it, is a real blessing. If Winter comes, can Spring be far behind? Answers on a postcard please.  Tim riley  talk    17:34, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

John Mowbray, 3rd Duke of Norfolk
Hullo, me again—You were kind enough to comment at this article's (somewhat informal!) peer review, and I thought I'd let you know it's now a featured article candidate. The discussion is here, and any further comments you may wishto make would be naturally very welcome. Thanks again!  ...SerialNumber 54129 ...speculates 11:17, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
 * ...attaching myself to this brief thread in the hopes that you will remember that Guy Burgess would much appreciate a comment or two at its peer review. Brianboulton (talk) 16:24, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I confess I had not remembered, but have hastened to repair the omission. And exceedingly enjoyable the task was, too.  Tim riley  talk    19:44, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Monmouth School
Tim, very much appreciated. I'm not convinced it's suitable for FA. It is, after all, a very minor public school! But I am casting around for another project so if all else fails. All the best and take care. KJP1 (talk) 22:16, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

André Messager – peer review
I have put Messager up for PR with a view to a shot at FAC, and if anyone who is kind or misguided enough to watch this page would care to look in, it will be esteemed a favour.  Tim riley  talk    20:05, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

On With the Dance
Hi, I'm curious as to why you have removed my contributions to this article, namely the Critical reception section, and references? Beryl reid fan (talk) 11:04, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The citations would be a useful addition if properly formatted. See WP:CITEVAR.  Tim riley  talk    15:54, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I appreciate you putting the Crit. reception section back. I'm going to expand it - hopefully later on, and will take a look at the formatting info. Beryl reid fan (talk) 19:51, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * It appears you didn't put the section back...What was it about it you disliked, anyway? Beryl reid fan (talk) 20:43, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
 * As I have said, if you format your additions in accordance with Wikipedia policies there will be no problem. They seem to be sensible and well sourced.  Tim riley  talk    21:16, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

O.K. Thank you. I'm not the most technically minded person, and always use User:Zhaofeng Li/reFill to fill out my references. I'm not really sure how to do it otherwise. Please bear with me. Beryl reid fan (talk) 21:55, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Lancaster
Congrats on the promotion, you very well brought him to life and it was a most enjoyable read. Ceoil (talk) 16:41, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I wonder if I'd have liked to meet him? An interesting man, but perhaps not everyone's cup of tea. But a minor – perhaps not so very minor – genius nonetheless. And whom or what shall we be meeting as your next FAC?  Tim riley  talk    16:46, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
 * He was as influential as he was creative. The review describing "Homes Sweet Homes" as "one of the most influential books on architecture ever published – and certainly the funniest" has peeked my interest, am on a book buying spree atm following a modest windfall. I was hoping the uber-goth Black Hours, MS M.493 would be next, but have hit a brick wall re sources - anymore just do not exist. Oh well. Ceoil (talk) 17:05, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

St Donat's Castle
If you can bear another bloody country house, this odd little Welsh corner is up for Peer Review, here Peer review/St Donat's Castle/archive1. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated, as ever. KJP1 (talk) 18:34, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * , by all means. You can look in at my current PR too if you like, viz André Messager, who was neither odd, Welsh nor little, but had a huge moustache.  Tim riley  talk    19:08, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * With pleasure - I did have a read through a while back but the distinctions between opérette, opéra comique and operetta, never mind opéra bouffe and opera buffa, made my head spin rather. But I shall see what little I can suggest. KJP1 (talk) 20:32, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Burlesque
Hi Tim! Some years ago you were planning to split the 'Burlesque' article in two, separating out the section about american theatre shows. Is that still a plan? The current taxonomy is a bit of a mess, and the matching to other language versions (which sometimes have separate articles for the literary burlesque and burlesque as a show) is quite chaotic. So, if you still plan to split the article, that could be very helpful! AntonBryl (talk) 17:11, 30 March 2018 (UTC)


 * AntonBryl, wasn't this already done? Do you mean American Burlesque and Neo-Burlesque?  See also Victorian Burlesque. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:32, 30 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Ah! Thank you. Then it's just the interwiki links that need to be sorted out. AntonBryl (talk) 18:56, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Ssilvers! I knew we'd done something about all this, but I'd quite forgotten what.  Tim riley  talk    23:04, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Commons Category: Elizabeth Ann Linley
I've added a couple of new pics here. Johnbod (talk) 19:27, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, speaking as one who can barely tell undoubted Raphaels from Gerard Dows and Zoffanies I think I must be allowed to delegate to you, my dear u|Johnbod the task of selecting and adding the new pictures. We must make full use of Wikipedia's art experts.  Tim riley  talk    22:27, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * A little later: But I have reason to suppose that the main author of the article on Miss Linley is much taken with File:Margaret Dicksee Sheridan at the Linleys 1899.jpg.  Tim riley  talk    22:31, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, Miss Dicksee doesn't mess about and gives you a good strong shot of sentiment. I've dug up the St Cecilia - sadly discoloured because of Reynolds unwise technical experiments, here with wax. I mistakenly misread things & thought you were the main author - I didn't realize there was a situation.  Very sad - too many editors are being hit this way. Johnbod (talk) 01:38, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

The tale of Phyllis and Aristotle
Tim, I have been led astray from the paths of righteousness by the curious tale of Phyllis and Aristotle (given what I've been doing at GAN). I've cobbled together an entertaining story but am more than aware of the gaps in my literary knowledge. You might be amused to take a look, a rainy bank holiday being an ideal opportunity, perhaps. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:29, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * An example to us all, at his age, judging by the pictures. I too have inadvertently stumbled on goings-on in unexpected articles: researching for an article about Handel I ran across this: "... the 1734 revival of Il pastor fido, 'which was enlivened by some dances for a licentious French dancer called Mlle Sallé, and her satellites, a disreputable gang of females'...". Sounds like scope for an article on Mlle Sallé.   Tim riley  talk    15:49, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It sounds delightful. But I just found an article on Marie Sallé ... Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:18, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, dear. Not much smut there after all. How disappointing!  Tim riley  talk    08:10, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Beecham in Bath
I wanted to thank you for adding Love in Bath while busy dealing with Messager. I am a sort of selective Beecham fan - but this work I have a soft spot for. Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 23:11, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * That's a very pleasing message to get. I'm working on the other Beecham-Handel ballet suites, but it's like trying to do a jigsaw with one's eyes shut. Beecham kept changing things round, adding, cutting, moving things from one suite to another, as of course did Handel before him. I spent a day at the British Library going through the published scores, which was enjoyable but confusing. I hope to have an article of sorts posted in a few days.  Tim riley  talk    08:09, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Featured article candidate
A note to anyone who happens to read this and might be interested: André Messager, after a tremendous peer review, is now at FAC, where my co-nom – Ssilvers – and I will be glad to have your thoughts.  Tim riley  talk    10:21, 8 April 2018 (UTC)


 * The star is up on the article. Very well done, Tim!  Thank you to all who commented at PR and FAC!  -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:57, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

One great man to another
How did I not know, until today, that KC bought this! For £50!!!! Sorry I missed Mr Messager's PR. I shall certainly make his FAC. KJP1 (talk) 12:26, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Sir Kenneth had a wonderful, dry sense of humour.  Tim riley  talk    08:32, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Elizabeth David scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that Elizabeth David has been scheduled as today's featured article for 22 May 2018. Please check that the article needs no polishing or corrections. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/May 22, 2018. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:31, 23 April 2018 (UTC)

Source reviewing
User:Brianboulton/Guidance on source reviewing at FAC - as requested. Warm regards. KJP1 (talk) 08:15, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, KJP1 (may I call you KJP?) I've bookmarked it.  Tim riley  talk    19:07, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

St Donat's Castle
Dear Tim, Am planning to wrap the above up at PR and roll on to FAC. I wonder if you could do me a favour, should you be dropping by the BL at any point. Both of the texts below, Venning Cite 10, and Procter, Cite 44, are currently lacking page numbers. The Google snippets, from where I obtained them, are those irritating versions that don't give the numbers. To be frank, neither's vital, but I'd rather keep them if poss. I wonder if the BL has them? The Rylands, out here in the sticks, doesn't. Don't put yourself out, but if it were possible to get them, it would be much appreciated. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 20:31, 28 April 2018 (UTC) p.s. Many congrat.s to you and Ss on Monsieur Messager. Why hasn't he got his bronze star yet?
 * Procter, Ben (2007). William Randolph Hearst: The Later Years, 1911-1951. Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press. ISBN 9780199830794.
 * Venning, Timothy (2017). Kingmakers: How Power in England Was Won and Lost on the Welsh Frontier. Stroud, UK: Amberley Publishing. ISBN 9781445659411.


 * I so agree about lack of page numbers for Kindle books and suchlike. Happy to look up the page numbers, but though the BL has the Procter book on site, and can whistle that up at 70 mins' notice, its catalogue seems to deny all knowledge of a print version of the Venning, though we know there is one. I shall enquire viva voce when I pop in, probably on Wednesday or Thursday. More anon.


 * Thank you for your congrats about Messager. The bronze star can take up to 24 hours to chug through the Wikipedia computer.  Tim riley  talk    20:47, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Excellent, and many thanks. It occurs to me that the Venning, which only came out in 2017 and lies on the "popular" end of the history spectrum, may well be in Waterstones. I shall sidle along. Hope you're keeping well. KJP1 (talk) 20:51, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Apropos none of the above, I meant to say that I found "The Secret Lives of Somerset Maugham" by Selina Hastings in Oxfam recently. Went it through in a week. A superb read and what an utterly tragic end. I must read some of his stories, as you recommended. KJP1 (talk) 20:59, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Not a very nice man, and not a very stylish writer of prose, but what a story-teller! I think one could make a case for his being England's greatest writer of short stories. If I had to recommend a handful to start with, I'd go for The Three Fat Women of Antibes, The Creative Impulse, The Treasure, Mr Know-All, and The Facts of Life. –   Tim riley  talk    21:13, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Boulez GA nomination
Thank you very much for taking on the GA review of Boulez and for your encouraging initial view. I'm delighted it's you, as the Britten article was a reference for me when I started work on PB and I've often consulted it to see how to solve various problems. As luck wold have it I'm out of the country on holiday til next Sunday with access only to an iPad - but I'll start to chip away at some of the simpler tasks in the meantime. Thanks again and I look forward to your comments. Dmass (talk) 09:21, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Flattery will get you everywhere. I hope you're holidaying somewhere warmer and drier than it is here. I'll take my review at a leisurely pace with the aim of completing my comments by this time next week or thereabouts. I often went to concerts conducted by Boulez, from the 1970s to the 2000s, but only once, I think, saw him conducting his own music: cummings ist der Dichter. I thought he was a very fine conductor. –  Tim riley  talk    11:43, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations on a super-productive Wiki-month!

 * As it happens I bought a very nice bottle of pink champagne – non-vintage, but highly rated – today, to be drunk tomorrow at a matinée musicale where the works of André Messager will feature, inter alia. I'd save a glass for you, but (i) you are a most abstemious person and (ii) I am a greedy lush. Be that as it may, I've been lucky to have such a collaborator as you.  Tim riley  talk    19:44, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Postscript: on enlarging the image in your kind award I see the bottle is Ch Meyney, which I have had and much enjoyed. I once shared a magnum of the great 1961 vintage with two friends at the Tate Gallery restaurant. Happy days!  Tim riley  talk    19:49, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
 * We'll get some fresh wine when I see you. Not that old, dusty stuff. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:53, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

The World
Hi Tim. Thanks for your very kind offer left on the talk page of The World (journal). My request isn't urgent at all so no rush. So according to the autobiography of James Francis Dwyer, "The World" had a front page article on him following the success of his debut novel The White Waterfall. I can only assume "The World" is this publication. The article was entitled "From Car Conductor to Popular Novelist" and apparently had a sub-heading "From ten dollars a week to ten thousand a year". That's the article I'm looking for. Those direct quotes are taken from the 1949 autobiography so they may be some slight variation in wording if Dwyer's memory wasn't 100% accurate. The White Waterfall was published in 1912.

This June 1912 issue of the New York Times said it would be published "this month". I can find about 10 reviews of the book in American newspapers between June and December 1912. I'm not sure if the release date in the UK were different but I can't imagine it being too far off.

I have spent many a day searching through microfiche for Wikipedia. If I were searching for this front page article I'd probably start early 1912 to be safe and expect to find it before the end of 1913, as there's bound to be some delay between the date the book was released and when it became popular. Obviously I want to take up as little of your time as possible though, so I'd be happy with any kind of search made. Just let me know what dates were searched through if you didn't find it. On the bright side The World was a weekly publication so at least it won't be anywhere near as tedious as searching through a daily publication. Let me know if you think you'd be able to help, and no worries if this kind of search (I.e. without a specific date) is beyond what you're willing to commit to. :) Freikorp (talk) 23:55, 9 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Oh dear, never mind Tim, I found another source that refers to this elusive article and while Dwyer simply refereed to it as 'World' the publication he is referring to is actually New York World. Thanks anyway. :) Freikorp (talk) 12:00, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Heigh ho! Good luck in tracking it down! And if ever you need any rummaging in the British Library please don't be shy about asking me. I truly enjoy it.  Tim riley  talk   16:11, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

FAC
Hey, Tim. You commented on my last FAC (Nicholas Hoult) and I was wondering if you could also take a look my current nomination too (If you have some spare time of course). Thanks either way.  Vedant  Talk  11:23, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Too far outside my comfort zone. Good luck with it, of course.  Tim riley  talk   18:12, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Peer review request
You've been excellent help reviewing a couple of articles of mine before, and I'm looking for someone without much (or any) cricket knowledge to take a look at Peer review/Worcestershire v Somerset, 1979/archive1, which I'm hoping to take on to Featured status. Any help you could provide would be amazing. Thanks, Harrias  talk 09:33, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not wholly without knowledge of cricket (although Sarastro1 might raise an eyebrow at that assertion) and have seen Worcs, though not, I think Somerset, play against my native county, but I'll be glad to look in anyway.  Tim riley  talk   18:12, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Would you consider becoming a New Page Reviewer?
Hi Tim riley,

I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join the new page reviewing team, and after reviewing your editing history, I think you would be a good candidate. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; the new page reviewing team needs help from experienced users like yourself.

Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision. If this looks like something that you can do, please consider joining us. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at WP:PERM/NPR. If you have questions, please feel free to drop a message on my talk page or at the reviewer's discussion board.

Cheers, and hope to see you around, —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)  07:11, 20 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you for asking me, but at present I'm really rather fully occupied with creating and revising content, doing GAN assessments and contributing to peer reviews and FACs, and with regret had better decline your kind invitation.  Tim riley  talk   18:26, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem at all. Continue with your great work. Cheers, —  Insertcleverphrasehere (or here)  20:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Debussy
Thank you so much for this. Another one of your masterpieces. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:20, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * What a very nice message to get! Thank you, sir! I was exceptionally lucky in having two top-notch collaborators on this one: just as well, as to be honest I was swimming with one foot on the bottom, being no expert on, or even a particular fan of, Debussy. I just felt that the old article was so gruesomely bad that Something Must Be Done, and I think we've done it properly between us. Flying solo, I'm within my comfort zone chez Vaughan Williams, who will be on the front page in four days' time.  Tim riley  talk   14:26, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Tim, take a look here - photo of Debussy and Stravinsky taken by Satie - don't you think we should put this in somewhere? - --Smerus (talk) 06:34, 23 August 2018 (UTC)?
 * Splendid pictures (and full marks to Satie) but wouldn't we fall foul of the copyright prefects as the photographer lived till 1925? Meanwhile, I'm happy to have first go at post-front-page cleaning up, if that's OK with you and u|Dmass?  Tim riley  talk   07:50, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * OK I'll make a note for 7 years time The rules say 70 years after death as I read them In fact it's OK and already on commons - File:Debussy Stravinsky 1910.PNG ; very happy meanwhile to leave any cleaning up to you.--Smerus (talk) 08:59, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * As you are the one who has found this picture I think you should have the pleasure of adding it where you think best in the article.  Tim riley  talk   09:23, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Now done.Smerus (talk) 09:05, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Early warning: I note that - beyond Rossini - Stravinsky needs to be added to the list of articles which need a makeover, along with Liszt (frightful), Brahms (I've made an attempt at the life but have stalled at the music so far), and so many others.......Smerus (talk) 09:34, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Hell's bells! What, will the line stretch out to the crack of doom? Happy to work with you on Stravinsky and Brahms in due course, but you're on your own with Liszt, whose music I can't be having at any price. I might do a bit of preliminary work on the music part of the Brahms article, though what I know about Lieder can be fitted on one side of A4.  Tim riley  talk   10:42, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not a great Lisztophile either, but the article is so painful......Smerus (talk) 14:34, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Political Animals and Animal Politics/archive1
Hi Tim; you were good enough to review this at GAC, and it's now finally gone to FAC. If you have a few minutes, any comments would be appreciated. Josh Milburn (talk) 10:26, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
 * It will be my pleasure. More soonest.  Tim riley  talk   12:02, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

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 * PG on the 15th and St Donat's, with mention of PG, on the 16th. A veritable Plum pudding! KJP1 (talk) 18:11, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Source review request
Hey Tim. The coordinator at FAC asked for a source review for the Antiochus XII nomination. I asked for help on the talk page of FAC but no one seems interested. So I was wondering if you have the time and will to do it. I greatly appreciate it, and if you can not, then thank you in any case. Cheers.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 16:28, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Right ho. I'll leave a note on the FAC page and deliver a source review over the weekend.  Tim riley  talk   18:38, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

The Amazed Every Day Barnstar
I try to give such things out sparingly, but you have worn me down with your unrelenting daily contributions of astonishing piles of high-quality content to this encyclopedia.


 * Well, thank you, though I'm not entirely sure I want my astonishing piles to feature too prominently in these pages or anywhere else. I could with justice reply that your own contributions are many, various and distinguished, so there!  Tim riley  talk   21:54, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Peer review/Thiruvilaiyadal/archive1
Hello Tim riley sir, been a while. How are things going on with your good self? BTW, Kailash29792 has listed this article about a 1965 cult classic film in Tamil cinema for peer reviewing with the intention of preparing it for FAC and subsequently taking it to FA. As always, your constructive comments would be deeply appreciated. Also do have a look at his other FAC. Thank you. — Ssven2  Looking at you, kid 08:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for asking me, but this is so far outside my area of expertise that I think it would be better to leave it to someone who knows about the subject.  Tim riley  talk   18:48, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Battle of Stockton
Dear Tim, Hit upon this at PR, and it's quite interesting. There's an issue around a source, as follows:
 * Serdiville, Rosie (2018). The Battle of Stockton: How a Small Town Saw Off Fascists in 1933. Durham: The Historical Association. 1009-1933

She's a published author, but neither the editor, nor Nikkimaria, nor I can find it on Worldcat or anywhere else. Any chance you could see if the BL can throw any light on it. Much appreciated. KJP1 (talk) 17:05, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 2018 publication date: could take a month or so before the BL gets its copy. Not in their catalogue yet. Bit odd that WorldCat knows not of it. Also odd that there's no ISBN, and that a search of the alleged publisher's site brings up nothing. I can't think of anything helpful to add on this question, alas.  Tim riley  talk   18:47, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Tim - no worries and many thanks for checking. It is rather odd. KJP1 (talk) 21:14, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, it definitely exists ! - SchroCat (talk) 08:45, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 * And well done for finding it. I don't do Facebook, otherwise I'd contact them. Where did I read that great quote - "Without the content, Wikipedia's just Facebook for ugly people"! KJP1 (talk) 10:40, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Having met a few people from WP, I don't think I can really comment, without alienating too many of my colleagues and friends! - SchroCat (talk) 11:06, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Re Hector Berlioz as critic and author
Please note best practices as described here:Copying_within_Wikipedia-- S Philbrick (Talk)  15:27, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I think you may have missed my point. This new article includes text that presumably was written by other editors. If you happen to have written every single word, the situation is described at the link. if any other editor contributed to the text, then our requirements for attribution are not preserved, is anyone looking at the history of this new article won't know who contributed to it. It doesn't take great detective skills to guess that it might have come from Hector Berlioz, but attribution shouldn't require guesswork. The ideal step would have been to use the suggested wording in the edit summary when it was copied from the main article but it isn't too late — the desired wording can be added using a dummy edit.


 * Someone might argue that your edit summary does provide sufficient information but I think it's a close call, and would prefer that the new article include the desired wording as an edit summary. Can you do that?-- S Philbrick (Talk)  15:40, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * (As an aside, I have to mentioned that Symphonie fantastique is my absolute favorite piece of music.)-- S Philbrick (Talk)  15:42, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry to say you've entirely lost me. Sorry for being dim. Could you do what you think needs to be done on my behalf?  Tim riley  talk  
 * I did it.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  17:46, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I am most grateful, and will try to remember about this if a similar occasion arises. I hope to get Berlioz to peer review in a week or two: may I take the liberty of asking you to look in then?  Tim riley  talk   20:19, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , Sorry if I was a bit abrupt. Yesterday was an intensely busy day, and I had hoped that my cryptic note would be enough. Let me know when you the article is ready although don't expect too much is that isn't something I work on, but I would like to take a look at it (I know, I could look at it now but I'll wait till then.) S Philbrick  (Talk)  13:08, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

Hector Berlioz
To anyone who is kind enough to watch this page: I have Hector Berlioz up for peer review, and contributions, suggestions, exhortations or anything, really, are most cordially invited.  Tim riley  talk   10:18, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thanks for the Bulgaria FAC spot check! - ☣Tourbillon A ? 13:40, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Thackeray
Morning Mr Riley. So what's your vote—love or hate him, work interesting or dull? Yrs, it's a somewhat loaded question, but once again I have made the textbook error in emerging from the 15th C and out of the comfort zone. Happy Sunday! —— SerialNumber  54129  10:53, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thackeray was all right. A bit too pleased with himself, perhaps, and not, to my mind, all that good at inventing characters interesting or attractive enough to make one anxious to turn the page to see what happens to them next. But a shrewd observer of the human race and a good describer.  Tim riley  talk   10:58, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Navigation template (music)
I have floated a suggestion here and if anyone kind enough to watch my talk page has a view one way or the other I should be glad if he or she would kindly comment there. –  Tim riley  talk   06:50, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Assessing
Good morning Mr Riley. Thank you again for your assessing of multiple articles, and especially for the gracious way in which you pointed out areas for improvement in Battle of Bergerac. By my count I still owe you an assessment. So if there is anything you would like looking at, point me towards it, or bank it and ping me once something you think will be in my comfort zone comes up. Take care. Gog the Mild (talk) 00:13, 30 October 2018 (UTC)


 * What a nice message to get! I'll certainly ask you if a suitable occasion arises.  Tim riley  talk   13:32, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Hector Berlioz
To anyone who watches this page (thank you) – after a spectacularly thorough peer review I have Berlioz up for FAC. If you care to look in and add your thoughts it will be esteemed a favour.  Tim riley  talk   13:18, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd like to add a particular invitation (has this man no shame?) to Ceoil, Dmass, Genericusername57 and Smerus, who were kind enough to comment at PR. Anybody who is busy preparing to present a Cimarosa opera is, of course, excused.  Tim riley  talk   17:17, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


 * see here---Smerus (talk) 19:54, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's a disgrace!  Tim riley  talk   20:39, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I was just going to go back today to the peer review and pick up where I left off - only to find I'd left it too late. My apologies - busy work patch... Happy to chip into FAC instead. Dmass (talk) 08:14, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Heavy going certainly at FAC with the unforecast turbulence, but thanks to you and all constructive contributors Hector joins our Panthéon. Merry Christmas!  Tim riley  talk   19:37, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Congratulations on finally bringing this one safely into port - especially with all the turbulence along the way... Happy Christmas! Dmass (talk) 02:25, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Carrie Tubb
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You've got mail!
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 * Thank you for that! Wikpedia does indeed attract its share, doesn't it!  Tim riley  talk   17:00, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks
Tim, thanks for your support of my FAC for Green Park tube station. That's my first new featured article in 6 years, almost to the day.--DavidCane (talk) 22:57, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

TFAs for December
Laurence Olivier for December 12 and Maurice Ravel for December 28.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:50, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Disregard Ravel, please, no doubt it will be used in the near future but per disccussion on my talk I feel it is too much from the same topic in too short a time, given January nominaitons.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:53, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Camille Saint-Saëns article
I've updated the Saint-Saëns article again. Hopefully it now reads appropriately.

I don't understand why you (and Smerus) have undone my change to the article on Saint-Saëns. My change seems to be very minor and adds extra information and evidence on Saint-Saëns's prodigiousness as a child. Could you please explain the reasoning behind your decision to remove it? Thank you.
 * The sources you cite are not reliable. They both, if I remember from checking them the other day, are factually inaccurate. As the books and specialist online sources used in researching this article don't say S-S was composing at the age of three I don't think we should add what may be incorrect information. If a reliable source can be found that substantiates it, then fine, of course.  Tim riley  talk   16:31, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Request
Tim, at the risk of sounding pushy or being a pain....can you revisit Gothic boxwood miniature pls. Ceoil (talk) 01:05, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It's neither pushy nor painful – just a helpful memory-jog to a forgetful old codger, gratefully received. Support gladly added. Further evidence of forgetfulness: I forgot to mention when I was on the FAC page just now there are two tiny spelling points that either I missed or weren't there when I last looked in: there are two "cataloged" that should be "catalogued" in BrE, and one " millimeters" that should probably be millimetres. Not, I need hardly say, matters that alter my support, so I mention them here.  Tim riley  talk   16:35, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Introduced recently, I think. Many thanks as always. Ceoil  (talk) 18:14, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ....introduced by me, I should probably mention. Have asked my dearest wife, Liz, to monitor more closely such things, and now, every time I unwittingly put in Americanisms picked up from TV or worse, will be blasted with this and will have to fear God (Key lyric: If you fk up, I'm telling Tim, and by the very widely respect NOFX no less). That's me told. Ceoil  (talk) 02:02, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

FAC Mentorship
Hi, I've been trying to promote Mahavira to FA, but my efforts were not good enough. Recently, I was referred to FAC mentorship program, and hence I am posting this to seek your guidance for the same. Capankajsmilyo(Talk 06:42, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll be glad to help if I can. I'll study the article and then continue this thread on your talk page. More in the next day or two.  Tim riley  talk   15:30, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I have not forgotten this, and will do my level best to attend to it this week.  Tim riley  talk   09:13, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Seasonal greetings
How excellent to hear from you, dear BB! I shall be in touch by email anon, and meanwhile, seasonal greetings affectionately reciprocated.  Tim riley  talk   15:33, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Seasons
A characteristically artistic greeting. Thank you, dear Ceoil. Greetings cordially reciprocated.  Tim riley  talk   18:59, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Feel free to copyedit the greeting my man; I notice a dangling modifier and punctation lapses, although no american spellings slipping in, thank god. 20:02, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 * The greetings will do very nicely as they are! Thank you!  Tim riley  talk   09:13, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

 * Thank you, dear Gavin. Greetings most warmly reciprocated.  Tim riley  talk   09:13, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Jill Valentine FAC
Hi Tim. Since you're currently one of the most active FAC reviewers, I was wondering if you'd be able to review my nomination, which has 5 supports, but also an oppose. This might seem like a strange request, but I was hoping you could provide an aggressive review—'aggressive' in the sense of you reading the opposing user's comments before reading the article, and then being an impartial commentator in whether those opposing points genuinely preclude the article from meeting the FA criteria. Czar and I had been discussing the article on its talk page for several weeks, so I genuinely believe there's an element of "can't see the forest for the trees" in several of his points for opposing. I know it's a terrible time of year to ask this sort of thing, but if you have an hour or so to spare over the next few days, I'd love to get your feedback. Thanks, and merry Xmas. ;) Homeostasis07 (talk) 02:07, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I have put this on my to-do list and will look in if time permits during the week.  Tim riley  talk   09:13, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy Saturnalia

 * How very pleasing! Greetings most cordially reciprocated.  Tim riley  talk   09:13, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Berlioz
Hi Tim. Re this, I wasn't aware he had any preferences when it came to non-French versions of the title. But I've never seen it expressed that way; it's always but always "The Childhood of Christ". Don't we risk alienating our readers by referring to "Christ's Childhood", something they've probably never heard of? Cheers. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  00:45, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Seasonal greetings, dear Jack! One can go mad trying to find an agreed way of rendering Berlioz's titles in French, let alone English. Holoman and Bloom call the work L'Enfance du Christ, Macdonald and Rushton call it L'enfance du Christ, Cairns is with you in calling it The Childhood of Christ, Melnic calls it Christ's Childhood and Barzun calls it The Infant Christ. My edit summary tried to pack too much information in. Although Berlioz was happy with Christ's Childhood, he originally had it published in English as The Holy Family. More recently it was given in London as The Infant Christ and The Childhood of Christ. This isn't an isolated case. You can imagine from the above the permutations one is confronted with in French and English for Grande symphonie funèbre et triomphale, and Cairns makes an exception to his anglicisation policy (Fantastic Symphony, Beatrice and Benedick) for Les nuits d’été, which he gives in French. I agree that if people are used to a particular translation it is jarring to find another used – I recall how irritating it was when ENO insisted on putting on Le nozze di Figaro as Figaro's Wedding – but in the case of L'enfance I don't think there is a standard version to diverge from.  Tim riley  talk   09:05, 23 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your thoughtful and comprehensive response. Yuletide felicitations to you and yours.  --   Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  10:48, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!


Hey there! Wishing you a merry christmas! I know it's early but tis the season. Do make a good wish =D Enjoy your holiday! Vincent LUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 10:55, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas to all!
Thanks very much Tim, and a very happy new year to you and yours too! —— SerialNumber  54129  16:19, 31 December 2018 (UTC)