User talk:USaamo

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Thanks! 😊 UsamaAhmadKhan 19:11, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

July 2018
Hello, I'm Jibran1998. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to NA-13 (Mansehra-I) have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Thanks. Jibran1998 (talk) 17:49, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

How were they not constructive? I made correction to their names. Secondly I removed PPP candidate, Ahmed Hussain Shah's name as he is not contesting from NA-13 but from PK-30. How did you not find these edits constructive??? UsamaAhmadKhan 19:11, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

You did not provide references, with each edit (except grammatical ones) you need to provide a reference otherwise they will be reverted even if the information is true Jibran1998 (talk) 19:19, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I realized that you were right about PPPP candidate which I removed now but there were other problems with your edit, check Shahjahan Yousuf, the article title is based on WP:COMMONNAME for this individual, so it is better to use common name elsewhere as well, Wikipedia do not recognize any Sardars. Secondly, you are moving up an independent candidate for no reason. Is he a relative or something? What is the reason? Sheriff &#124; ☎ 911 &#124; 22:56, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Well Mr. @SherrifIsInTown, I added Sardar to his name because if u see the page Shahjahan Yousuf, even there it is written so. Also everywhere in his area he's known as Sardar Shahjahan,similarly in his posters and in newspapers etc he's mentioned as Sardar Shahjahan Yousuf, so there's no reason that you find it unnecessary. I made another change to MMA's candidate name which you reverted was also right. His name is Baseer Awan not Baseer Khan. How did u find these unnecessary?? Lastly I changed order and placed independent candidate on 2nd according to the current political scenario of the area. Had he been my relative, I would have placed him on first, not second... (UsamaAhmadKhan 07:25, 21 July 2018 (UTC))

Conflicting Wikipedia Signature
Hello Usama Ahmad Khan (assuming that it's your real life name), greetings!

You have created or say registered as a Wikipedian by the username Saamikhan01 although you sign as UsamaAhmadKhan without linking to your userpage. If you are willing to publish the later name, please use aka. (which means  also known as) after linking to your userpage. As my sign,"Dr. Sroy(aka.ARKA) (talk)"

- my original name is Arkaprabha

If you are having any problem, please feel free to ask me!

Anyway, happy editing, cheers! Dr. Sroy(aka.ARKA) (talk) 06:56, 6 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Alright, I'll do it but how abt changing username, is it possible? Usama Ahmad 05:57, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

August 2018
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Saleh Muhammad Khan, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. Saqib (talk) 07:16, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
 * , that was not a test edit, the info u provided there was incomplete and making no sense abt his education, that's why I removed it. Anyways fine, I'll add complete educational details of him later. (Usama Ahmad 07:35, 12 August 2018 (UTC))

Username change
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Thanks,Dr. Sroy(aka.ARKA) (talk) 19:11, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

ARBIPA
-- D Big X ray ᗙ  09:10, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

September 2018
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Indo-Pakistani War of 1965, you may be blocked from editing.  D Big X ray ᗙ  09:11, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant notice boards.
 * If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.
 * Utterly biased you people are... Why don't you apply this on Indian editors when they disrupt it and do disputed edits without consensus??? (Usama Ahmad 09:22, 10 September 2018 (UTC))
 * Wikipedia is based on reliable Third party and neutral sources see WP:RS. Only Pakistan Army says that it won the war. Even Pakistani Journalists and newspapers have published that Pakistan lost the 1965 war.
 * 1965 War from Pakistani perspective


 * 1) Not only did we (Pakistan) lose militarily in 1965 – state propaganda aside – but we also lost our national unity in the process.
 * 2) Pakistan observing Defence Day and marking the 50th anniversary of the 1965 war, historian and political economist Dr S. Akbar Zaidi dispelled ‘the victory myth’, saying that there can be no a bigger lie, as Pakistan lost terribly.
 * 3) Pakistan won the war in the same way that you finish third in a two-team tournament.
 * 4) The Pakistani military has propagated a false narrative about the 1965 war that justifies its oversized role in society. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  10:15, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

December 2018
Hello, I'm Oshwah. I noticed that in this edit to Al-Qaeda, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   21:20, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

May 2020
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Indo-Pakistani Air War of 1965. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to lose their editing privileges. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, and violating the three-revert rule is very likely to result in loss of your editing privileges. Thank you. Kautilya3 (talk) 13:07, 4 May 2020 (UTC)


 * and what is consensus according to you, the point on which Indians agree... No things Don't go this way. I haven't violated any of Wikipedia rule. I've added an information which is necessary to be mention. The main article of Indo-Pakistani War of 1965 also mentions India's upper hand according to the assessment of losses and so should be on Indo-Pakistani Air War of 1965 as well. If you have any objection provide the reasonable ground or counter information or we can also go for a third opinion (WP:DRR/3O).

USaamo (t@lk) 14:00, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Did you read the edit summaries in my reverts? If so, please tell me what would be right response to them. If not, please read them. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes I did read them and what you are saying about the sources of Pakistan's edge over India in aerial war are obvious from both the neutral and Indian claims of losses which are well referenced in the article. -USaamo (t@lk) 16:35, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You should read WP:SYNTH. It says that you are not allowed to form your own conclusion from the sources. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 16:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I duly understand synth, you need to read WP:NOTSYNTH where synth is defined as combining reliably sourced statements in a way that makes or suggests a new statement not supported by any one of the sources. Since Pakistan's edge in aerial warfare is what most of the sources mentions or imply so this is not synth. You guys need to stop this edit warring and still if you are not satisfied, we can go for WP:DRR/3O. USaamo (t@lk) 18:56, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

DS Alert
Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 16:38, 5 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Please note that nationalistic or racist comments like what you said here are strictly prohibited:
 * Just because I am questioning the credibility of Pakistani claims, that doesn't give you license to brand all Indian sources. I am questioning them based on reliable sources (which are either third-party or Pakistan's own generals). If you have a problem with the sources I have used, you are welcome to raise them. But you cannot take it as a free for all.
 * If you do this kind of thing again, you will be looking at sanctions under ARBIPA. I encourage you to look at the famous WP:ARBIPA case and check what the arbitrators have said about such conduct. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:41, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * If you do this kind of thing again, you will be looking at sanctions under ARBIPA. I encourage you to look at the famous WP:ARBIPA case and check what the arbitrators have said about such conduct. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:41, 7 May 2020 (UTC)


 * And just because I'm questioning your sources credibility or the credibility of Indian sources, it became a nationalistic attack, lol! USaamo (t@lk) 00:34, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

May 2020
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Shaheen Raza, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. Saqib (talk) 12:50, 20 May 2020 (UTC)


 * That content removal from page was legit, source and content removed from the article had no clarity, it's just referring to Washington Post's homepage. Clarify the source or add better one which supports that claim of her age. The only source about her age in article is of Dawn and is credible upon which we can rely. Edit summary was given there thus your reversion amounts to WP:TWABUSE. Thanks! USaamo (t@lk) 19:24, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Why edit war? What about this Reuters news story which says she was 65 and, this and this news story which says she was 69. --Saqib (talk) 19:57, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Shaheen Raza, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. ''Stop adding unsourced information like birth place. '' Saqib (talk) 20:07, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay fine as to age since all three got mentioned but why you are reverting other changes. Her city Gujranwala is mentioned in almost of the news stories and her full name is mentioned in a couple of news stories through an embed tweet by President and is a well known thing. Understand good faith and stop status quo stonewalling. Thanks! USaamo (t@lk) 13:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Filed a report now against you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 05:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Edit warring at Indo-Pakistani Air War of 1965
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AE
I have filed a report against you about your conduct at WP:ARE where you can comment. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 05:48, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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AE report
Hello USaamo. Please move your latest post to your own section. The place where you posted is reserved for admins. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 20:08, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I was busy in replying other statements filed but it's done anyhow. USaamo (t@lk) 21:15, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I just moved another round of statements to your section. Please only post in your section. The next time they have to be moved, they may be removed instead -- Guerillero &#124;  Parlez Moi  21:19, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I'm a bit confused as to where should I reply as I'm having a case there for first time and the subsequent statements coming in and page is changing rapidly. Anyhow got it now and will look for it onwards. Thanks! USaamo (t@lk) 21:36, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * You need to put all your comments in the section titled "Statement by USaamo". -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:27, 20 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I was actually confused over 500 words thing, with more points getting added, statement is going beyond that limit but anyhow understood now! USaamo (t@lk) 12:52, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Will you make a concession that allows the AE complaint about you to be closed?


At WP:AE I made an offer that the complaint about you (regarding the air war) could be closed *without* banning you from the topic. My idea was that you would make a concession about your future behavior. For example, you could offer to refrain from editing Indo-Pakistani Air War of 1965 or its talk page. You would also promise to stay away from all Wikipedia articles related to that war. In other words, some statement from you that guarantees that the war wouldn't continue in the future. So far all I see from you in return is this update to your views. If that is your final answer on this matter, I don't see any reason to be confident you won't continue. As I said at AE,. Unless there is some change, I perceive that your reverts will continue indefinitely. That would incline me to put a stop to the reverting by banning you from the topic. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:00, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Dear admin my response to your offer was in second part of that diff that I agree to respect the process and will not change anything in the infobox without seeking consensus. I requested to be allowed this pursuit to resolve the dispute through dispute resolution process which obviously does involve talk and I believe is in no way against any policy as I'm assuring of not changing anything there without consensus. Even the edit I made to article last week was only after the discussion with editors in new section when no response came from them for a week and I notified this on talk as well. I had no intention of any edit warring with that edit which was not rightly perceived. Moreover in my response in that diff I requested the close of that RfC by the admin to be reconsidered since that is more than what was discussed as to the question. The socks comments made it flawed so it will make sense to reopen it as well and some more comments giving insight may be helpful to conclude it better. USaamo (t@lk) 20:32, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not persuaded by this answer. If this is the best you can do, I will proceed with the topic ban. In my comment just above I gave an example of a response that would be sufficient. You don't have to agree to that exactly, but you need to make clear that your behavior will be dramatically different in the future. I am unable to trust your judgment on consensus now that I have seen your peculiar impression of how the RfC turned out. EdJohnston (talk) 21:13, 21 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I've said in clearest possible words about my behaviour that I will not try to push anything without consensus. Seeking dispute resolution as consensus building measure is no wrong thing to do and RfC too is not the final thing in dispute resolution process. I gave you my reason for not agreeing with how RfC turned out to be and I haven't read much policies but having an opinion about the result or dissatisfaction isn't a big deal unless one goes against it balatantly. I highlighted the flaws in RfC and it's close, some comments were done by sockpuppetry for which reopening demands makes sense and demand for admin to reconsider his close too is not wrong either considering that it was more than the question discussed. USaamo (t@lk) 21:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

I earlier added a statement in my case repeating my stance over the content dispute however I've a change of mind and reconsidered your offer above. Though I had already made my mind for letting go this dispute by getting banned as per the sanctions you proposed since it's been months and I also think I need a break but now I thought if it could be without having a ban mark in my log so it should be this way. I've given you assurances previously regarding respecting the process and staying away from editing that article but you asked for a do more so now I'm also assuring you that I agree with the other part about talk and dispute resolution as well and dropping the stick and and letting go this dispute. If this is the way this encyclopedia could be better so I respect it. I hope you will consider this in closing my case. Thanks! USaamo (t@lk) 16:15, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * To have a restriction that is completely clear, you would have to agree to make no more edits at either Indo-Pakistani Air War of 1965 or its talk page, or regarding any wars between India and Pakistan. This restriction would apply to those topics on any page anywhere on Wikipedia, including noticeboards. Let me know if this is acceptable. You would be able to appeal the restriction after six months of trouble-free editing in other areas. EdJohnston (talk) 17:03, 22 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I accept that but prefer no sanctions rather a probationary period. USaamo (t@lk) 18:32, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This proposal is for an indefinite sanction that keeps you from editing certain articles. The ban is indefinite but can be appealed in six months. This is not a form of probation. Granting the appeal in six months is not guaranteed; it depends on constructive editing over that period. Hope that is clear. EdJohnston (talk) 18:41, 22 July 2020 (UTC)


 * A day before you were recommending three months topic ban while I was insistent with my point and now an indefinite ban when you said of closing AE case without action on my assurance regarding behaviour which I gave you at the moment and then you asked further to refrain from whole topic which too I have accepted now. The only thing I've done during all this was my disagreement with the RfC for some reasons without any violation which as to your proposal I changed as well and assured to let it go so it would be better to go with that proposal you gave earlier. I didn't know that mere disagreement too can lead to here. USaamo (t@lk) 19:08, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Under my latest proposal you can still edit articles in WP:ARBIPA so long as you stay away from the India-Pakistan wars. Under the three-month option I offered originally you couldn't edit at all in ARBIPA. If you prefer that one, I'll go with it. EdJohnston (talk) 19:29, 22 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I thought there was something regarding without action as well. Anyhow I already agreed to the latest proposal but why indefinite ban, why not the same three month ban in this case? USaamo (t@lk) 20:17, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This is the end of my discussion here. Let me know which you prefer, and it will be done. EdJohnston (talk) 20:43, 22 July 2020 (UTC)


 * As I said I already agreed with the latest proposal but I still request the reconsideration of the time frame of sanctions proposed. USaamo (t@lk) 09:23, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

List of television channels in Pakistan
Hello. Your recent edit to List of television channels in Pakistan appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. - Arjayay (talk) 07:00, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * That entry is quite notable being a popular music channel in the country. It might had a wiki article in the past as well(unsure by which name). I've added it to the list for a reason that may be interested in starting an article about it. USaamo (t@lk) 13:36, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


 * , As I was pinged, so I'll reply. Currently, I'm gathering references to create this article. The process is almost completed. And I would create the article in a week's time. Thank you. Empire AS  Talk! 13:59, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


 * I've pinged you for the very reason. Good to know that you're doing it. I hope it's clear now for . USaamo (t@lk) 14:13, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Topic ban violation
This edit is a violation of your indefinite topic ban from "the topic of wars between India and Pakistan" because this liberation war involved combat between India and Pakistan.

Any further violations will be likely reported so be careful. Regards Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 13:35, 11 August 2020 (UTC)


 * The ban is upon Indo-Pakistani War related pages while this page is Bangladesh Liberation War, mainly a civil conflict between two wings of Pakistan; West Pakistan and East Pakistan. The page regarding India Pakistan combat is Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 as stated on the said article as well, so it's not violation of my topic ban, I believe. Anyhow pinging for further clarification. USaamo (t@lk) 15:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The infobox at Bangladesh Liberation War includes both India and Pakistan among the belligerents. So I consider that my topic ban excludes you from editing that article or its talk page. Please cease your editing in that area. Reminding you that lifting the ban after six months depends, in part, on whether you can edit without further trouble during that period. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 16:13, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no intention to violate the topic ban, I commented there on talkpage considering it involves mainly a civil conflict between the two former wings of Pakistan which later turned hostile and at the very end Indian intervention came in. I thought the ban involves the war pages between India Pakistan which in that area is Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 but anyhow I pinged you for the very reason to clarify me on this. Thanks! USaamo (t@lk) 16:30, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. We seem to be in agreement that you should not edit Bangladesh Liberation War. As regards the other topic, Swati (Pashtun tribe), I encourage you to contribute there if you have access to any reliable sources. The two parties who have been disputing do not seem very familiar with Wikipedia standards. The best they can do is throw around Raj-era sources, which are widely recognized here as not reliable. See WP:RAJ for an essay by User:Sitush on the reliability of Raj-era sources. EdJohnston (talk) 17:46, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Swatis
Seems like the other friend isn't coming.... how to remove the block on the page so I correct it and then request for block...... you have seen him yourself how sound his arguement is. Regards Azmarai76 (talk) 17:22, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * That edit restriction on page was added by admin because of your edit-warring on the page. It will remain there until 14 December, 2020. However if we reach a consensus on the edit dispute, we can request it to removed but not before that. I hope we'll get to a consensus soon. USaamo (t@lk) 11:14, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Usaamo will you please look at this guy's efforts. I have tried to teach him the topic but guess he doesn't even understands English. He seems ashamed of himself even the area where this tribe has been recorded and I simply don't understand why??? Azmarai76 (talk) 16:25, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I see, you've already waited so long and still we are trying to establish a consensus over the dispute. So I'll ask you to wait a little more, I'm trying to get him onboard for Dehqan origin. If it continues than we have no choice than to go on WP:AN against him, I've already alerted you both about General Sanctions on this topic. But actually I don't want any fellow Pakistani editor getting sanctioned, so we'll wait some more time and continue this discussion. USaamo (t@lk) 22:28, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Well wish if any of his things are based on Swatis he is doing nothing else but distorting facts. He has become from descendant of Qais to each and everything..... I am spending this much time with him but seems like he doesn't know anything about his own tribe and I think he is just trying to make articles go vague nothing else. Azmarai76 (talk) 13:59, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * But let's see if he gets back to books so I will wait...... Azmarai76 (talk) 14:01, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * , I've given him another option as a last resort and this is the least I could do to it. So let's wait for his answer. USaamo (t@lk) 14:19, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes let's see but the way we have seen him and few others pasting unwanted stuff to different tribal pages I still doubt. Khostwal and every Pashtun editor is sick of this guy. Azmarai76 (talk) 14:35, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I pray may sanity prevail among us all. We don't need to fight each other, rather try getting Pakistan related articles better, there's already so much bias as to South Asian history. USaamo (t@lk) 14:52, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * @ trying to keep it correct as much as possible but why did I pick this guy for this debate was to expose him to the ultimate as to what exactly his level of intelligence is.... he thinks only Pashtuns are humans and to be a human he has to distort facts to become Pashtun. Azmarai76 (talk) 15:47, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Just look at him "this will go further" makes me laugh..... is he even educated??? I think he is just a young boy and such are always ready to blow themselves up. Azmarai76 (talk) 16:07, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Just look at him he isn't moving an inch. Azmarai76 (talk) 17:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Bro the guy is just wasting time as I had told you I will wait I'm still else I have to move on to other pages. This poor soul is knitting a web for himself to make his ancestors Pashtuns maybe as he keeps doing on all pages I am leaving you this so we sum it up or do it the way it was done for Tanolies. Regards Azmarai76 (talk) 14:55, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * actually I'm quite busy these days with assignments and all that stuff being from the category of students who try to save semester in the very last week, so not getting much time for Wikipedia. Seemingly, he isn't going to put down the stick, so options are on for us. This is more than a mere content dispute for which we should only go to WP:DRN. This is more a behavior problem for which either we should involve the same administrator again or also fine if we go to WP:AN but it would be better if you file against him because it was you to have this dispute with him in start. Do let me know if you are going to do this... USaamo (t@lk) 19:01, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes I will definitely if he doesn't accept your lede... now. I will even type at EdJohnston talk page. Azmarai76 (talk) 19:21, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes do that now since he's not ready to accept a mid way out. Report to him on the very section where you previously reported that it's not working out. I'll also come up with my take. USaamo (t@lk) 19:37, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

I have typed it on EdJohnstons talk page under Swatis if you also just type a few words it will help. Azmarai76 (talk) 19:42, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Usaamo I have done it if you also type a few words he will know .... Regards Azmarai76 (talk) 20:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)


 * @USaamo I will wait for you at EdJohnstons talk pages Regards Azmarai76 (talk) 04:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC)


 * USaamo seems like EdJohnston hasn't seen his talk page or he has gone for Moharam also ....Haha Azmarai76 (talk) 08:11, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Well I just came after yesterday as I told you I'm quite busy these days. Let me check and I'll also add my take over there. USaamo (t@lk) 19:20, 28 August 2020 (UTC)


 * USaamo thanks I have left notes on the talk pages of other tribes also where same kind of activities have been going on since long. Regards Azmarai76 (talk) 19:24, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
 * you don't need to do that all for now. I suggested WP:AN but since EdJohnston is also an admin so no need of going to any noticeboard either, wait for the outcome from there. USaamo (t@lk) 20:47, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

USaamo I am grateful.. thanks and Regards Azmarai76 (talk) 20:54, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

@USaamo, I guess Ed hasn't been able to do anything about the issue. What do you suggest. Azmarai76 (talk) 13:12, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * it was archived because you both were not responsive. I was thinking to add a request about the article that my lead be reinstated since the conflicting parties are no more in the conflict. Anyhow for now as you're back, so let me unarchive that section and add a request, let's see what happens. USaamo (t@lk) 13:27, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

@ Dear Usaamo I have left Ed a note on his page regarding the sources given in at the end of this article especially as to why exactly Iranica links to mitharism were given to introduce the subtribes of these people. Azmarai76 (talk) 10:06, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

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About titles, honorifics and appeal to popularity
Hello and greetings,

This is just for your kind info. Since previously you have participated in an inconclusive RfC discussion at this RfC in year going by, and since some related aspects are under discussion at Village pump (policy) may be you want to join in to share your inputs or opinions.

Thanks and regards

Bookku (talk) 05:47, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

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thank you so very much. Saal-e-Nau Mubarak! :) USaamo (t@lk) 18:27, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Thanks :) Empire AS   Talk ! 18:28, 1 January 2021 (UTC)


 * btw I just noticed, it says about 2022. Is it for real? :p USaamo (t@lk) 18:30, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Oh, There was a mistake in the template, when I created it. I've corrected the years and template too. Thank you. :) Empire AS   Talk ! 18:40, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

January 2021
Respected Senior AOA, subject article (Qasim Ali Shah) is not created with promotional intention. Being new-editor, myself is yet to learn how to use words/sentence in compliance with Wiki-ToS under your kind guidance. However, I respect your opinion being my seniors, therefore kindly highlight which words/sentences are objectionable for alteration/removal, thanks.U.J (talk) 20:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC)


 * WS, hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Sorry I was away for a while so couldn't get back to you on time. As to Qasim Ali Shah, I voted against it's deletion and I believe the person is notable but I found the article to be not much encyclopedic that's why asked to keep it by stubifying and removing the content which is not sourced and changing it's tone. USaamo (t@lk) 07:45, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Much Obliged, Will Keep asking for Kind Guidance.U.J (talk) 20:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

HELLO
Hi USaamo. Thank you for the guidelines i really appreciate it. Could you guide me on why google stopped indexing Usman Wazeers wiki page and how i can get the wiki page verified.

AhmadKhan518 (talk) 06:51, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello there's nothing like verification of pages on Wikipedia. Once a page is created it goes up on Wikipedia and a Page reviewer will review it to check if it really deserve to be on Wikipedia's mainspace and is in compliance with Wikipedia polices and will then mark it as reviewed. As to Google not indexing Usman Wazeer is Google's problem, may be their algrothims are yet to get it. Though I've created a redirect Usman Wazir with common spelling of surname Wazir. USaamo (t@lk) 08:34, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

U.A.K Bey aoa, if Aik editor ko undo krna ho bcz mujhe lag ra ke jaan boojh ke trickly kisi ki past published wiki contrOvsy Heading having 4 cites delete ki, ES me bhi reason mention nahi kiya, aap kindly mujhe IN-BX kr do ge usmanjunaid177 at jee male, seeking guidance.U.J (talk) 13:30, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Your claims about Banda Singh Bahadur
Hi, you keep saying that Wikipedia is not censored. I know this already, Wikipedia is a fantastic source of knowledge. Wikipedia requires accurate references for claims that are made. You keep telling me that "my book is censored" - I'm not sure what you mean, I'm following the link to the book by Karam Singh that you keep quoting on the Banda Singh and Samana pages. That book that YOU are referencing does not seem to contain any information to verify the claims you are making. Unless I'm missing something - in which case could you point me to the relevant pages of the book? Or if not, then why do you keep quoting that book if it does not contain this knowledge? And in that case, what source are you using for this knowledge? The page Verifiability talks about the burden of proof being on the user who restores content to provide an inline citation. A user may remove content if it does not have a verifiable reference. Your claims do not have a verifiable reference. That's why I'm removing it, and asking you to provide a valid reference. Nothing to do with censorship - it's about following Wikipedia guidelines on verifiability and referencing sources.

Thanks, ★Sunny_bacon★ (talk) 00:31, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Review Mehmosh Raza Draft
Hello. Hope you are well. I made a Wikipedia article about British-Pakistani MMA Fighter Mehmosh Raza. Could you kindly review the article. Much appreciated. Bilalbutt40 (talk) 10:28, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Pawri Ho Rahi Hai
Greetings,

Lately you seem to have worked on 'Pawri Ho Rahi Hai' too. Since last three weeks it is still in South Asian news and IMHO foresee in near future trend likely to continue in South Asia hence topic deserves independent article so I initiated a Draft:Pawri Ho Rahi Hai with imported fork, pl. do see if you can help develop it as an independent article over a period of time. Thanks and Regards Bookku (talk) 05:18, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

March 2021
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Vandalism
Please refrain from making disruptive edits. Failure to do so will lead to you being blocked from editing. Thanks AtishT20 (talk) 07:50, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Before throwing vandalism warnings on others talkpages, first read what WP:VANDAL actually is! USaamo (t@lk) 10:06, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

You are literally writing false information without proper sources. That's vandalism to us! Don't try and act smart ffs. Bloody hell — Preceding unsigned comment added by AtishT20 (talk • contribs) 16:05, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The information I added was well sourced but still if you had objection you could have stated that with civility. Your conduct here on my talkpage is unconstructive and totally unacceptable. You're not on some social media that you'll talk to other users like this. You're required to take back these words! WP:CIVIL USaamo (t@lk) 04:21, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Swatis
Thanks Usaamo but I haven't made any edits to this article other than adding a few good sources I came around for sake of spreading knowledge. I amnot being Ultra Nationalists or anything rather fighting against it. Regards. Azmarai76 (talk) 09:04, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

I would propose to leave it piece the way it is. If they are Pashtuns so be it, noone cares. Regards Azmarai76 (talk) 09:05, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

National Gender Policy Framework
Greetings,

This 8 th March GoP launched a renewed National Gender Policy Framework. If you have time can you help create article for the same. As of now I came across these 2 refs


 * https://www.dawn.com/news/1679016/as-women-march-govt-unveils-ambitious-gender-policy
 * https://tribune.com.pk/story/2346977/national-gender-policy-framework-launched-to-empower-women

Thanks and warm regards

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 04:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Alia Sarim Burney
Greetings,

I have been informed that a lady named Alia Sarim Burney is coming up as a significant critique of Aurat March. Do you have any reliable sources covering her criticism of Aurat March? may be in Urdu?

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 13:29, 11 March 2022 (UTC)

What is the reaction of Pakistanis after watching The Kashmir Files.
You are seen taking intrest about this movie. Satwik Shaw (talk) 13:00, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I watched the trailer of this film lately and haven't watched the film yet. It reminded me of Haider (film) back then when I used to watch some Indian films and I think that was still an honest take on the topic but I heard that there was much backlash and boycott calls over it. From trailer it looks like that it is a balatant attempt to divert public attention from what is happening with Kashmiri Muslims from so long. Killings of Kashmiri Pandits was sad indeed if it happened but what Pakistanis have always been more concerned is killings of thousands of Kashmiris since the start Indian occupation which has always got overshadowed in India because it is easy to label every Kashmiri a rebel militant killed and common Indians will rejoice even Indian Muslims won't speak about it who themselves faced many genocides in India from Babri to Gujarat and most recently Delhi and Assam.


 * Pakistanis previously used to watch Indian movies when local movies were not much making and we have a great memory of Bollywood films especially Khan's films till mid last decade. Afterwards we've seen rise in anti-Pakistan films and films with Hindu nationalist rhetoric distorting the history and it greatly diverted Pakistanis away from Indian movies. Also now Pakistani cinema is reviving and most importantly for foreign content Turkish series has taken that place which previously was of Indian industry, so people don't much care about it. USaamo (t@lk) 16:06, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Yeah! Your response is highly appreciated. But I disagree with your statement "to divert public attention from what is happening with Kashmiri Muslims from so long" this movie focuses mainly on Kashmiri Pandits that how they were thrown out of their home Kashmir. (but you know a fact I haven't watched it till yet). I am sorry if you don't like any of my statement (cause) don't wanted to start a fight here. Satwik Shaw (talk) 16:19, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * And also I wish good luck for Pakistani cinema industry and the way it is devloping. Satwik Shaw (talk) 16:20, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Why you are commenting on Talk:The Kashmir Files?
I have no interest in this subject and I haven't edited it, but I am surprised to see you commenting there even though you are already told enough times that you are topic banned from this subject of wars between "the topic of wars between India and Pakistan."

You were discussing the same subject just above some months which was also a topic ban violation.

You know that Exodus of Kashmiri Hindus is a part of Kashmir conflict (largely a Pakistan Vs India military conflict) and the movie's article is itself categorized under Category:Kashmir conflict in films. That's why you can't edit articles about this movie as long as your topic ban is in place.

I would ping who imposed the topic ban and ping  who is apparently moderating the talk page. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 19:55, 26 May 2022 (UTC)


 * FYI my ban is specific on the topic of wars between India Pakistan while the said article is a film article. When you complained about me after my comment on Bangladesh Liberation War, Admin EdJohnston said that I shouldn't be editing there because its  infobox mentions both India and Pakistan as belligerents, so I stopped right there. As to The Kashmir Files neither it is a war article nor do Pakistan got anything to do with it. Not even with the topic Exodus of Kashmiri Hindus, film is about.


 * Don't make a non-issue an issue by dragging me into it out of nowhere for settling your previous grudges. You're trying to imply here that I have been violating my topic ban many times but its been two years since the topic ban and I haven't appealed it for which time was after 6 months because I was not much interested in the topic.


 * As to above comment on my talkpage, it was in response to 's query who asked for my view regarding the film probably after seeing my edit in the article to which I replied generally from a viewer's point of view and not as an editor.


 * So I don't think I have violated my topic ban but still if the admins think it amounts to violation, I'll cease my editing there even though I haven't done much, just interested in developments related to it since I heard my edit and the article overall have created quite a ruckus out there. USaamo (t@lk) 18:06, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * That could make sense if your sanction involved an "Indefinite ban from the articles about direct wars between India and Pakistan", but your sanction involved an "Indefinite ban from the topic of wars between India and Pakistan".
 * To edit about a movie that is about Kashmir conflict where Pakistan and India are the most significant belligerents, is prohibited by your topic ban.
 * Together with providing the views on history of Kashmir conflict this movie, as the article notes, also depicts 2003 Nadimarg massacre which was carried out by Pakistani militant group Lashkar-e-Taiba.
 * Now that you have replied, I hope and  can share their view. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 21:45, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello USaamo. Back in July 2020 I imposed a topic ban under authority of WP:ARBIPA. In my opinion your ban from *does* prevent you from commenting at Talk:The Kashmir Files. The topic bans issued at AE are broadly construed. The situation is clear enough so that an admin would be justified in blocking you if you continue to comment on the topic of the film. EdJohnston (talk) 03:03, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Draft review
Hi, hope you are good. Can you help me with the draft I started about activist Imran Noshad Khan in draftspace. It has been quite a while since it is there and I don't know what to do further. Your help will be much appreciated. IBuNeriPK (talk) 14:35, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * oky I'll see to it but this draft's history shows that there might be some kind of link to your account. If that's the case you're advised to not edit the draft article again because that will be against the core Wikipedia policy of Conflict of Interest WP:COI. USaamo (t@lk) 09:32, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Edit dif 1104699210
Greetings @USaamo

A discussion has been initiated to contest your changes wide those not being in line with Wikipedia policies, you may place your point of view if you wish so.

Thanks and regards

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 11:41, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh yar quite a long chargesheet against me, you would have discussed it with me simply here without getting into the long discussion but anyway let's see where it goes now... USaamo (t@lk) 20:12, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Requesting your attention and cooperation
Greetings @USaamo


 * Template:BLP others


 * WP:ONUS says ".. The onus to achieve consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content. .."
 * @ Edit dif 1104699210 discussion you were requested to provide a  proof, where in police have charged the victim Ayesha Akram for any conspiracy before court of law?  Your answer to this ".. All these things are part of police file during investigation. .." does not constitute / does not equal to '.. police have charged the victim Ayesha Akram for any conspiracy before court of law ..'
 * In sub judice cases, video and audio tapes do not constitute full proof evidence in themselves and usually need corroboration etc, which only courts can decide and we Wikipedians can not sit on judgement on veracity of  evidence constituting   video and audio tapes in sub judice cases.
 * Per WP:SUSPECT, ".. For individuals who are not public figures; that is, individuals not covered by § Public figures, editors must seriously consider not including material—in any article—that suggests the person has committed, or is accused of having committed, a crime, unless a conviction has been secured. .."
 * Request made for removal of contentious content un til we reach consensus @ Edit dif 1104699210 discussion  and raised concerns  have not been addressed in almost last 6 days.
 * Template:BLP others suggests to take up such cases @ Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard So I am likely to take up the issue there for resolution and guidance.

Requesting your attention and cooperation.

Thanks and warm regards

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 11:36, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Dear Baku, I think I have provided more than enough justification for my edits which were sourced to have inclusion but now you're making argument for the sake of argument. I'm responsible to give justification for my edits not how you are assuming things on your own but I have still given a pass to your victim blaming allegations on me and repeatedly clarified that I don't deny the happening of incidence but the background of it. This article should be telling all the related information published in reliable sources for NPOV. The audiotapes being part of police investigations is mentioned in the sources which are published reliable sources and none of the parties have denied them. They are obviously accepted by police that's why they are part of police file. Rest is to be decided by court of law but they are admissible evidence in courts under Pakistani law. Police is focused on the prosecution regarding the harrassment incident which obviously happened but still couldn't file chargesheet because of all the twists unfolding with the case. So as I said above if you think that matter is sub-judice and we can't include this in article then it applies on whole article not just my edits.
 * And being a law graduate myself I'm abreast with country's law and courts proceedings and have been closely following the case. USaamo (t@lk) 17:21, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

RfC
Greetings @USaamo

This is to keep you informed that, regarding our ongoing discussions, a RfC discussion to seek inputs from other editors has been opened @ RfC: A TikToker, associates, other accused constitute 'Public figure' or not?

Thanks and warm regards

&#32;Bookku, &#39;Encyclopedias &#61; expanding information &#38; knowledge&#39; (talk) 10:33, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Complaint about your edits


Hello USaamo. Please see User talk:EdJohnston. A user is saying that you have violated your topic ban from wars between India and Pakistan. You can respond there if you wish. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:23, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

AE
I have filed a report against your topic ban violations at WP:ARE where you can comment. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 03:33, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Edit war
You know better about not edit warring on 2021 Minar-e-Pakistan mass sexual assault when your edit has been disputed on talk page. Focus on talk page and describe why the content is due for lead or even the article. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 08:08, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

October 2022
Please remember to assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not do on Pakistan. Thank you. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 09:47, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

You have been falsely claiming that I provided "misleading summary" when it is clear to anybody that by saying "restore useful edits" I was restoring the already explained edit here.

This is not the first time you have engaged in this POV pushing on this page, and in fact you have no other edits on this page other than undoing my 100% correct removal of the term "regional power" because Pakistan isn't one.

Read Talk:Regional power/Archive 5, where all these sources were analyzed. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 09:51, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 17:14, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.


 * If you want to use a transcluded discussion from 2016 to overturn multiple conclusive discussions from 2018 at [], then you are being disruptive. Do the math and read WP:CCC. You shouldn't be citing a 2016 discussion to go against 2018 consensus. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 17:18, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

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October 2022
<div class="user-block" style="padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 0.5em; border: 1px solid #a9a9a9; background-color: #ffefd5; min-height: 40px"> You have been blocked temporarily from editing for persistently making disruptive edits. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. ~Swarm~ {sting} 17:28, 14 October 2022 (UTC)


 * . I've been following this controversy for a while. I objected to some of the content added by Bookku about a year ago. But I let the discussion run its course, not edit-warring in the meanwhile. As you can see, eventually enough users agreed and the article was amended accordingly. If you want an unblock, I strongly suggest you apologize for your reverts. Yes, others reverted too, but read WP:NOTTHEM. Dispute resolution requires a lot of patience.VR talk 05:07, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * you're right, edit war is highly regretted and it shouldn't have been done from my side. USaamo (t@lk) 17:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I'm seriously debating an AN/I discussion for disruptive WP:NOTHERE behavior on top of the edit warring that has taken place. Moving and altering another editors article talk page comments crosses a line. It's a clear etiquette violation and does not signal a willingness to engage in collaborative discussion. -- A Rose  Wolf  13:16, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I only meant to improve the RfC discussion at talkpage as I filed for RfC close after editors suggested for convenience of the closer and gathered relevant responses as the discussions have been quite long and messy over there per WP:TPG. As to the moving one of comment below I wasn't sure that RfC can be restarted after template was removed month prior and the editor who started it also viewed about summing it up month ago. I even asked about it from other editor whose comment was being moved. USaamo (t@lk) 17:21, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * You asked @Thinker 78 but @Thinker 78 is not the one who made the comment. Beyond that, in my opinion, you asked and involved editor whom you view as being supportive of your position further involving them and tainting their position whether they agree with you or not. Your actions from the first moment have been disruptive, from the article to the discussion. There was too much bludgeoning by both sides which has hurt discussion, which you were part of. If all you wanted to do was improve the article you made a mess of it by edit warring and disrupting the discussion on the talk page. And you continued doing it even after being warned by multiple editors. -- A Rose Wolf  18:20, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I moved two of the comments of Thinker78 as well from discussion below where Bookku asked him about what editors viewed in RfC. He himself didn't even comment in RfC. The discussion was bludgeoned because of other party who kept on making long comments and I have to answer them. USaamo (t@lk) 08:20, 21 October 2022 (UTC)
 * By bludgeoning the conversation and making it even more difficult to follow? You both were wrong for that. However, you didn't just move Thinker78's comments did you? You moved and changed another editors comments. One that opposed your position. That's the one I'm concerned about. It doesn't matter whether you agree with the placement of the comment or what is being said, it is highly uncivil to remove or move another editors comments. It is my opinion that you owe them an apology. Likewise, both you and Booku owe the community and the editors, all of them, that have tried to weigh into the fray and find a solution a huge apology. Because of your bludgeoning and edit warring we may never get the consensus or solution we could have and that's a shame. As a fellow editor and member of this community I find your actions to be unrelentingly careless, severely uncivil and very much disruptive. -- A Rose  Wolf  13:40, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Sadaf Naeem for deletion
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 * Hi, I was wondering if you were the one who created the article Sadaf Naeem originally. Since the article was deleted, not even the edit of the creation of the article can be traced by me. I find its deletion and much more the manner in which it was executed a bit questionable, much more since no edit history of her article is not accessible. Only one of my articles was deleted so I am not so much aware if this is normal.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:56, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Just noticed you are T-Banned from the area India Pakistan. Do not answer into my inquiry, it could potentially lead to more discussions for you. I'll just wait for the closing admin to reply which I have also seen is the suggested procedure at deletion review.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:49, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi I'm topic banned as of now so I can't really comment on it but just to clarify, I didn't create this article, I wrote its lede and reaction section prior to its deletion nomination. You may ask editors at WikiProject Pakistan for further help with regard to it. USaamo (t@lk) 18:02, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement topic ban

 * Usaamo, I've very disappointed to see that you were tbanned from Pakistan, which seems to be your favorite subject. But now that you are, I think you should try editing other topics for the next 6 months. I see a quote on your talk page, perhaps you're interested in Sufism, or Islam in general? I have edited heavily on Islam-related topics, so if you need any suggestions there, please leave a message at User talk:Vice_regent. If you edit constructively, I think your appeal after 6 months would be successful.VR talk 13:59, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

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I thought this might be of your interest. Pakistan blocked Wikipedia. Regards, Thinker78  (talk) 15:01, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
 * thanks for notifying but I'm afraid my preferential topic ban last year bars me from doing anything in this regard on Wikipedia. It has been lifted though. USaamo (t@lk) 15:13, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

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