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Template:Chris Coons series

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  00:40, 8 November 2021 (UTC) Why does this template exist other than the fact that Senator Coons holds President Biden's old Senate seat? Unknown0124 (talk) 23:56, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Chris Coons series
 * Delete There's no navigational benefit with this. All links outside the main article are to the article sections. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:09, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: Normally there's at least some navigational value to these political series' that justifies its existence. This one, however, has literally 0 navigational value; every link points to either Coons article, or is a completely irrelevant link. Curbon7 (talk) 01:39, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Module:Taxobox

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  00:40, 8 November 2021 (UTC) Unused here after 8 years. Izno (talk) 23:25, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Taxobox
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:09, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Big Two Comic Publisher

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:06, 8 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and articles listed have their own navboxes or are already in the more broad navbox of Template:Comic book publishers in North America. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:40, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Big Two Comic Publisher
 * delete, not needed. Frietjes (talk) 15:17, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Billboard Philippines

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G6 by AnomieBOT ⚡  08:06, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and no articles in the navbox. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:40, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Billboard Philippines
 * Delete per nom. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 18:29, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as per nom. — hueman1 ( talk •  contributions ) 04:59, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Binibining Pilipinas titleholders

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:06, 8 November 2021 (UTC) Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:40, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Binibining Pilipinas titleholders
 * delete, can be recreated if needed. Frietjes (talk) 15:16, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Biografia infotaula automatikoa

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:06, 8 November 2021 (UTC) Not a template nor an infobox. Completely doesn't follow any standard of formatting. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:40, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Biografia infotaula automatikoa
 * delete, test edits. Frietjes (talk) 15:15, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Biota table header

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:07, 8 November 2021 (UTC) Both unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:40, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Biota table header
 * Biota table row
 * delete, can be recreated if needed. Frietjes (talk) 15:15, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:BugineseE

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 8. Izno (talk) 17:07, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * BugineseE
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Template:List of regencies and cities of West Java

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and a navbox, Template:West Java, already features the same list of articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:24, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * List of regencies and cities of West Java
 * delete, the table is in List of regencies and cities in West Java. Frietjes (talk) 15:13, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Year from to

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC) Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:12, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Year from to
 * delete, can be recreated if needed. Frietjes (talk) 15:12, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Year in the Republic of China

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC) Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:12, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Year in the Republic of China
 * delete or redirect to Template:Year in Taiwan. Frietjes (talk) 15:11, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:YYYY elections in the United States by state or territory category header

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 8. Izno (talk) 17:09, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * YYYY_elections_in_the_United_States_by_state_or_territory_category_header
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Template:YYYY in demonym sport

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  00:43, 8 November 2021 (UTC) Unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:12, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * YYYY in demonym sport
 * Delete. Misconceived (the categories do not use demonyms), and redundant to Template:YYYY in nationality sport category header. -- Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 22:19, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:United Nations System

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 17:09, 8 November 2021 (UTC) A template that was deleted back on June 2, 2019, for partially overlapping with the UN navbox. All the links here are already on the navbox. Unnecessary fork. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:59, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * United Nations System
 * delete, duplicates navigation found in Template:United Nations. Frietjes (talk) 15:10, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Arona–Novara railway diagram

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:13, 7 November 2021 (UTC) All unused, redundant as the respective article has the route information already, or like the TransLink Diagram, are an unused fork of a template that's used on the mainspace article. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:46, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Arona–Novara railway diagram
 * Belgrade-Jesenice railway diagram
 * Grand Central route diagram
 * Grand Trunk Express route map
 * Karachi-Peshawar Main Line Diagram
 * Potenza–Brindisi railway diagram
 * Stratford (high-level) station layout diagram
 * Stratford (low-level) station layout diagram
 * Thai State Railway route map
 * TransLink Major Route Diagram (pre-Evergreen with 97 B-Line)
 * Zutphen-Winterswijk railway diagram
 * Yüksek Hızlı Tren route diagram


 * No opposition from me as creator of Template:Thai State Railway route map. --Paul_012 (talk) 13:24, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Hockeyreference
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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Hockey-reference. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:11, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Redundant to Template:Hockey-reference. Template:Hockey-reference was made in 2008 while Template:Hockeyreference was made in 2015. As hockeyreference.com used to be the URL in 2008, I think a redirect to Template:Hockey-reference could be useful here. Otherwise, Template:Hockeyreference is currently unused while Hockey-reference is used. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:07, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Hockeyreference
 * Delete per nomination and unused. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:05, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Mo Brothers
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The result of the discussion was history merge. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:10, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Mo Brothers with Template:The Mo Brothers.
 * Mo Brothers
 * The Mo Brothers

Template:Mo Brothers was created in 2014 while Template:The Mo Brothers was created in 2021. As the article name is at The Mo Brothers, I think Mo Brothers template should be merged to The Mo Brothers template. Also, the template used at The Mo Brothers is Template:The Mo Brothers, while Template:Mo Brothers is unused. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:46, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Mo Brothers. There's nothing to merge. Templates are basically the same. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:08, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:IMDb Anton Leader
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:42, 7 November 2021 (UTC) This template is redundant with Template:IMDb name. Also, the template that is used at Anton Leader is IMDb name, not this custom template. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:57, 31 October 2021 (UTC) I have been invited to this discussion, but cannot contribute as I have no idea what user MrLinkinPark333 is talking about in the Wikipedia-speak above. I defended my use of IMDb as a source of Mr. Leader's credits on the talk page of the entry I created for him. Beyond that, I can't really help with this discussion. Do as you feel you must, guys and gals. --Jhoughton1 (talk) 17:56, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * IMDb Anton Leader
 * Delete Unneeded. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:06, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:British Girls Adult Film Database movie
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:41, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and redundant to Template:IAFD movie. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:04, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * British Girls Adult Film Database movie
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Template:British Army Volunteers
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  18:06, 31 October 2021 (UTC) Unused and all the articles in the template already have a respective navbox for their respective military unit/division. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * British Army Volunteers
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Template:British Isles mathematicians
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:38, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and only links to categories. Not useful. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:56, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * British Isles mathematicians
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Template:Beaufort scale small
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 7. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:37, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Beaufort_scale_small
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Template:Beaufort scale template
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:38, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and redundant the article on the Beaufort scale already has detailed information on the scale. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:36, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Beaufort scale template
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Template:Antiandrogens marketed for clinical or veterinary use
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:37, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Unused and should most likely be substituted on appropriate articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:25, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Antiandrogens marketed for clinical or veterinary use
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Tennis at multi-sport competitions
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The result of the discussion was delete after proper replacement with the new singular template. Primefac (talk) 21:25, 12 November 2021 (UTC) Redundant to Template:Infobox tennis tournament event (all transclusions replaced). Sod25 (talk) 13:19, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Tennis at the 2019 African Games
 * Tennis at the 1994 Asian Games
 * Tennis at the 1998 Asian Games
 * Tennis at the 2002 Asian Games
 * Tennis at the 2006 Asian Games
 * Tennis at the 2010 Asian Games
 * Tennis at the 2014 Asian Games
 * Tennis at the 2018 Asian Games
 * TennisAt2010CommonwealthGames
 * Tennis at the 2019 European Youth Summer Olympic Festival
 * TennisAt2013MediterraneanGames
 * Tennis at 2018 the Mediterranean Games
 * Tennis at the 2011 Pan American Games
 * Tennis at the 2015 Pan American Games
 * Tennis at the 2019 Pan American Games
 * TennisAt2011SEAsianGames
 * TennisAt2015SEAsianGames
 * TennisAt2017SEAsianGames
 * TennisAt2010SouthAmericanGames
 * Tennisat2014SouthAmericanGames
 * Tennis at 2018 the South American Games
 * Tennis at the 2017 Summer Universiade
 * Tennis at the 2019 Summer Universiade
 * TennisAt2010SummerYouthOlympics
 * Tennis at the 2014 Summer Youth Olympics
 * Tennis at the 2018 Summer Youth Olympics
 * Keep user substituted all templates without a discussion. These are used for MSE events per WP:MSE, and should not be replaced with single sport templates/infoboxes. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:30, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * @Sportsfan 1234: Template:Infobox tennis tournament event and Template:Infobox tennis tournament year are the standard infoboxes on every single tennis draw and every single tennis tournament edition article, except for multi-sport events until now. All these templates are now entirely redundant to the standard tennis templates. Not just redundant, but inferior - the standard tennis template can list winners/runners-up, scores, and has succession links, whereas these don't: compare this (old) to this (new). Sod25 (talk) 13:46, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * The infoboxes above can include the score. There is zero reason to be listing a runner up in these. Keep in mind this is a tennis tournament at a larger MSE event, not a tennis tournament by itself. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 13:54, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * They are tennis tournaments, and fall under the umbrella of WP:Tennis (as well as WP:MSE and others). The tennis infoboxes should be on the tennis tournament/event pages and are superior in functionality to all of these - you didn't address the succession links, which have logic specialized to tennis and specific tracking categories for the maintenance of all tennis tournament/event articles across Wikipedia. Also check the source of the "old" version linked above - there are params for score/champ but the template doesn't display them. Mass-reverting to inferior templates is simply disruptive. Sod25 (talk) 14:08, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per above, similar to other multi-sports events pages in all other sports, see no reason to make Tennis an exemption. Mohsen1248 (talk) 13:49, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * @Mohsen1248, please see above. Also tennis is already being treated as an exception on the latest Olympic pages, which are the most-viewed (edit: tennis) MSEs. Sod25 (talk) 13:55, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Then someone has to create the templates for the Olympic Tennis events as well. because as I said I see no reason to make Tennis an exemption and who says Tennis pages "are the most-viewed MSEs" ? even if that's true (which I believe you just made that up) it doesn't change anything. my question stands, why Tennis should be an exception? Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:06, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I meant the "most-viewed tennis MSEs". Tennis should be an exception because these two templates are standard across all 8,000+ tennis tournament pages and 16,000+ singles/doubles pages, and they provide greater functionality than the listed templates, the most significant being succession links with logic specific to tennis pages and tracking categories for the maintenance of tennis articles across Wikipedia. Also, there are potentially hundreds more of these templates that haven't yet been created but could, e.g. 19 more "TennisatXXXXSEAsianGames". Having 2 templates with the functionality of all of these saves editor time (no need to create a new template for every tournament), and makes maintenance easier (modifications/improvements only need to be made to 1-2 templates instead of 27+). Sod25 (talk) 15:49, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete all Navboxes are already provided to navigate between the respective tournaments or are linked on the main tennis articles for the events. All fall under creep and crust. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:20, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Navboxes (or do you mean Infoboxes?) do not link to the other events as part of the sport's competition at the said event. Also the qualification link is missing. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:47, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * These issues have now been addressed, see Talk:Tennis at the 2019 Pan American Games. Sod25 (talk) 08:54, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I'd also like to point out that discussing 20+ templates used on articles ranging and notability and quality is also a bad idea. Perhaps discussing each event on its own (and said templates) would be a better idea. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 14:49, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, the new system is clearly superior since you (1) don't need to create a template for every event, and (2) you can include more information, like the score, champion, etc. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  16:35, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * delete per Sod25 and Plastikspork. Frietjes (talk) 15:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * COMMENT I am not going to comment on the 'new system', I can see its advantages. However, I do think WP:MSE must be consulted and a resolution agreeing to these changes through a consensus needs to be raised before any of these templates are deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportsfan 1234 (talk • contribs) 22:32, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I did do my due diligence with WP:MSE by inviting them to join this discussion, but none took up the offer. That in my opinion suffices for having been "consulted". As for the demand of a "resolution [by them] agreeing to these changes through a consensus" before deletion, I'm not sure individual projects have that kind of jurisdiction over any page outside their project-space. If others deem otherwise so be it, but I won't be able to comment further. I believe I've clearly outlined the benefits of the two infoboxes over these 27+ navboxes, so will leave it to the powers that be to decide the outcome from here. Sod25 (talk) 04:21, 9 November 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per Sod25 and Plastikspork. The new system is far superior to the now unused and pointless sea of templates. Newshunter12 (talk) 19:16, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:National University of Colombia
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:45, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Delete. All entries are campuses of a university, which currently redirect to the university. Geschichte (talk) 11:00, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * National University of Colombia
 * Delete No navigation provided. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:20, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete: unnecessary template that provides no navigation. The campuses outside Bogota are small regional outposts and not significant enough for their own articles, hence the redirects. Richard3120 (talk) 18:11, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:O. Schwarz
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 04:50, 7 November 2021 (UTC) This is a board that no one uses at all. Did Q28 make a mess today? 03:35, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete, not needed. Geschichte (talk) 11:01, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:F+
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 04:49, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Templates that are barely used, if used, should be substed and then deleted. Did Q28 make a mess today? 03:31, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:34, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 04:46, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Templates that are barely used, if used, should be substed and then deleted. Did Q28 make a mess today? 03:30, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Sd-spam
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 04:45, 7 November 2021 (UTC) The quick delete prompt has been replaced by another template, so we don't need this one. Did Q28 make a mess today? 03:29, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Talkvandal
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2021 November 7. Izno (talk) 04:45, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Oldafdfull/old
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 04:45, 7 November 2021 (UTC) This template is obsolete and we should delete it. Did Q28 make a mess today? 03:16, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Stencil
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 04:45, 7 November 2021 (UTC) This template is not very useful, so I think it is better to delete it. Did Q28 make a mess today? 03:15, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Listrow
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2021 (UTC) The template is only used on one page and has been substed and should be deleted. Did Q28 make a mess today? 03:14, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete Not really used anywhere except on a talk page. No substitution is necessary. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:43, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Tennis topic/old
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2021 (UTC) This template is obsolete, so we don't need to use it. Did Q28 make a mess today? 03:12, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Template:WikiProject 2020s
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G8 by AnomieBOT ⚡  06:05, 7 November 2021 (UTC) WikiProject is not really "inactive", it does not exist and does not have any consensus for existing (see discussion on WikiProject Council/Proposals/WikiProject 2020s). Therefore this tag on talkpages doesn't really help anyone. Elli (talk &#124; contribs) 01:05, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * WikiProject 2020s
 * Delete The project doesn't exist. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:14, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 02:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. <b style="color:white; font-family:courier new">WADDLES</b> 🍁 🎃 03:20, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I'm not really participating in the WikiProject, and as it doesn't exist, I'm all for deletion. CyclonicStormYutu (talk) 21:26, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Template:Useless
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  00:17, 7 November 2021 (UTC) Self-depreciating but if used elsewhere really just a personal attack. Barkeep49 (talk) 00:14, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Useless
 * Speedy delete in my view hence it kind of counts as a personal attack under G10. But delete nonetheless. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete – I fail to see any way in which this template could be conducive to building an encyclopedia. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 02:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per the above comments, and the fact that anyone could just type it out, regardless if it's an attack. This template is useless, pun not intended. <b style="color:white; font-family:courier new">WADDLES</b> 🍁 🎃 03:23, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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